US ships and marines rush to the shores of Iran

The United States is increasing its ship grouping off the coast of Iran at a heightened pace. Its core will be the carrier-based attack group Abraham Lincoln, which was ordered to leave the Mediterranean Sea "in response to signs of Iran’s increased readiness to conduct offensive operations against US forces and our interests," as stated in the Pentagon.

At the same time, the commander of the CENTCOM Marine Corps, General Kenneth Mackenzie, requested the transfer of a B-52 Stratofortress bomber detachment. And about. Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan ordered the Patriot missile battery to be sent.

In addition, the Pentagon dispatched the USS Arlington amphibious assault ship (LPD-24) and units of the 22 Marine Expeditionary Force, which should join the AUG "as a barrier against Iran," to the Iranian coast, as reported by the Pentagon.
Specially emphasized that the USS Arlington is designed for the transportation of marines and conduct assault operations.

The United States does not seek conflict with Iran, but we are ready to defend American forces and interests in the region.

- said in a statement.

The listed forces rush to the shores of Iran, complementing the power of the 5th fleet United States, whose area of ​​responsibility includes this location.

Comments

[Rainman_1]

Again they will escalate the situation, to avert eyes!

[PalBor]

Hope you are right, for a diversion. But God forbid, Bolton and the Jewish lobby convinced Trump to conduct a "light" war. Moreover, they will not use infantry, but hammer and hammer and hammer with rockets and bombers.

[KOCMOC]

Quote: PalBor

hollow and hollow and hollow rockets and bombers.

It's like in Syria, hammering nowhere. And what is one aircraft carrier, it’s nothing at all. Senile senility among the states, the head still remembers and wants, but they can’t do anything serious, as they say, if you don’t get a penny, you won’t reach with eggs. Cheto their democracy and the dollar cease to act. But the more they threaten and hollow senselessly, the more the world realizes that with such America they are not on their way.

[CERBERFOL]

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

[rotem15]

Quote: CERBERFOL

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

And how did all the planes get from kuzi, they say the Syrians and Madura will repair the pride of the Russian fleet, and the Argentinean embassy will sell coke to the market and in the Kuwaiti embassy where it is forbidden to sell alcohol, they will sell a couple of boxes of cognac at the expense of Russia for kuzi, it's cooler than driving oil and yes gas and not releasing anything more

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: rotem15

And how did all the planes get from kuzi, they say the Syrians and Madura will repair the pride of the Russian fleet, and the Argentinean embassy will sell coke to the market and in the Kuwaiti embassy where it is forbidden to sell alcohol, they will sell a couple of boxes of cognac at the expense of Russia for kuzi, it's cooler than driving oil and yes gas and not releasing anything more

[CERBERFOL]

They say Who is talking? From where infa? You are less watching Ukrainian 1 + 1. Naturally, I did not mean the current state of Admiral Kuznetsov. Maybe you have something against the demonstration of the Russian flag on military ships? Express yourself more clearly. You do not have a comment on the topic, but some set of slogans made in the kitchen with a burner and dumplings.

[rotem15]

Quote: CERBERFOL

They say Who is talking? From where infa? You are less watching Ukrainian 1 + 1. Naturally, I did not mean the current state of Admiral Kuznetsov. Maybe you have something against the demonstration of the Russian flag on military ships? Express yourself more clearly. You do not have a comment on the topic, but some set of slogans made in the kitchen with a burner and dumplings.

You really don’t demand, I somehow got into your words, but alas, my friend is from Israel and I’m watching CNN, BBC, AL ARABIA news, I understand that now CNN will run into Russia to intervene in the highlands and Venezuela

[Frieda]

Quote: rotem15

Quote: CERBERFOL

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

And how did all the planes get from kuzi, they say the Syrians and Madura will repair the pride of the Russian fleet, and the Argentinean embassy will sell coke to the market and in the Kuwaiti embassy where it is forbidden to sell alcohol, they will sell a couple of boxes of cognac at the expense of Russia for kuzi, it's cooler than driving oil and yes gas and not releasing anything more

You would be tied with substances. Drug does not bring to good.

[PalBor]

Well, here you are not entirely right. Not only does an aircraft carrier consist of 80-100 aircraft, it is usually accompanied by two or three destroyers, a missile cruiser, frigates ... But in principle, Iran will not only fight off one AUG, but also defeat it. But if they drive a few more, plus the bases in Qatar, Jordan and Israel will "joyfully" take part ...
America needs a war now. Not Ukraine, not Syria, it seems, not Venezuela. So - Iran.

[cniza]

If they climb, break off there to the fullest.

[Aenth]

I remember Iraq (which incidentally defeated Iran) also shouted that we’ll get mattresses, we’ll destroy it. As a result, Iraq was defeated as children. Iran is no better, just an upstart. They want to show him his place at .....)

[ProkletyiPirat]

In fact, we did not know what was happening in the Iraqi army, and we do not know what is happening in the Iranian army, therefore, even knowing what the United States is capable of, we will not be able to determine the development of the conflict between them. But in any case, all these statements by the US Navy are caused by statements by the Iranian military and officials in the style of "if we are not allowed to trade, then no one will trade (this is mainly about oil and gas)", because it is beneficial for the US to send its fleet to show that "they can protect their allies from Iran. " The only question is whether there will be those willing to substitute this or that force for war.

[PalBor]

Well, in Iraq, they bought the generals, and then they tricked and hanged them. This time. Iraq did not defeat Iran, as a result of the war it was more likely a draw. These are two. Persians are not Arabs, they are three and steeper than all previous ones.

[Nikolay Fedorov]

Quote: Aenth

I remember Iraq (which incidentally defeated Iran) also shouted that they would get mattresses, we would destroy it. As a result, Iraq was defeated as children.

Iraq is not defeated. The coalition had a thin gut to defeat Iraq in a military confrontation. They won economically, in a simple proven way - they bought the military top. For almost two and a half weeks, the Anglo-Saxons could not achieve at least some success. The British were stuck in battles on the Fao Peninsula. The Americans slowly moved to Baghdad in the sand, bypassing settlements and meeting fierce resistance. And then all 8 divisions of the Republican Guard (80 thousand l / s) suddenly disappear from the front, and then the remaining Iraqi army (295 thousand l / s) ceases resistance, changes into civilian clothes and dissolves among the civilian population. Then chaos begins in the country, and then ISIS appears.

[Karabas]

I remember Iraq (which incidentally defeated Iran) also shouted that we’ll get mattresses, we’ll destroy it. As a result, Iraq was defeated as children. Iran is no better, just an upstart. They want to show him his place at .....)

When the generals are Vlasovites, it is not surprising to win.

[zadorin1974]

You were a little modest, usually the AUG includes 15-17 pennants (except for destroyers, corvettes, supply vessels, and a couple of nuclear submarines). I completely agree with you on the attack on Iran, too tough. This is practically to plunge the world into a fuel crisis-Iran immediately and tightly (despite the fact that for several years) will shut up the Persian Gulf (mines, anti-ship missiles, sinking of ships). And as soon as it arrives in Israel, I don't even want to think. And you don't have to blow in your ears for the "Iron Dome", Messrs. will appear) - Hamas tested just the other day = only 30-40% of successful interception. And about AUG it will be possible to speak in the past tense. But after that Iran (if the neighbors do not support) will be rolled out into the lunar landscape.

[Suhow]

And if Iran does not act as the Iraqi armed forces, even though the guys are decisive.

[Aenth]

You just wrote nonsense, and fierce nonsense. And the United States and Israel have yao. Iran has a donut hole. I hope they get beaten, preferably with their feet in the face)

[zadorin1974]

I said that I’ll catch up))) So (when I express my opinion) the first use of nuclear weapons in Iran will fly in the opposite direction from neighbors. Since no one will be interested in living near the nuclear desert and hosting the irradiated refugees. So that the drum is on your neck and the wind accompanying with your show.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: zadorin1974

Hamas tested just the other day = only 30-40% of successful interception

This is Hamas information.
About 700 rockets were fired.
240 missiles shot down ONLY THOSE WHO WERE DIRECTED TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS
If it were not for the Iron Dome, all 240 rockets fell into residential areas and the number of casualties was significantly higher. The "Iron Dome" saves not only Israelis but also Hamas from total destruction.
Hamas tried to release at a time as much as they could, but the system as a whole held on OK. 86% is not much less than 90% at the time of [“Unbreakable Rock”], and this time most of the fire was concentrated in the area around Gaza, which is located on short distance and harder to protect
"Iron beam" for the "Iron Dome"
In early 2014, the Israeli company Rafael first introduced a new missile defense project called "Keren Barzel" ("Iron Ray"). It was proposed the construction of a mobile system on automobile chassis, capable of using a laser beam to hit various types of air targets. First of all, the objectives of this complex were to be rockets, shells and mines. Also provided high potential when working on unmanned aerial vehicles.
https://topwar.ru/150515-izrailskie-proekty-lazernoj-pro.html

"And as soon as it arrives in Israel, I don't even want to think"
And YOU do not need to think.
In Israel THERE IS WHO TO THINK AND TAKE CARE OF THE COUNTRY AND ITS RESIDENTS!

[zadorin1974]

I am very happy for you and for your caring thinkers !!!! Well, you, how some goy dared to doubt the wisdom of the Jews. But the question is, Hamas was hollowing out practically with self-propelled guns, and the result was an overload of the system.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: PalBor

But in principle, Iran will not only fight off one AUG, but also defeat it. But if they drive a few more, plus the bases in Qatar, Jordan and Israel will "joyfully" take part ...
America needs a war now. Not Ukraine, not Syria, it seems, not Venezuela. So - Iran.

Even if Iran manages to "punish" at least one American aircraft carrier, it will be a colossal, moral and image defeat for mattresses in the entire post-war history, which will lower the US authority to the level of a plinth. It is clear that in terms of the resources of the war, Iran is significantly inferior to the United States, which can leave no stone unturned from Iran, but after the end of the phase of "unpunished" destruction of Iran's infrastructure, the phase of ground "pacification" should begin, in which mattresses, traditionally, have nothing except for defeat does not shine.

[PalBor]

Yeah, as a history teacher, I can say for sure that the current USA is very reminiscent of Rome during the decline of the empire. They will still stretch from half a century, they will do nasty things, but that’s what they will.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: KOCMOC

Cheto their democracy and the dollar cease to act.

because their de-moratia, that their dollars have all got, except for the most persistent type leaders of Poland and Ukraine

[Lapunevsky]

There will be no war. The US fleet is not sent to intimidate Iran, but to intimidate the EU. Many EU countries, including US allies, oppose the destruction of the "nuclear deal" with Iran, and do not want to impose sanctions against it, as the US demands of them. Europe doesn't need another military conflict in its underbelly, new waves of refugees and skyrocketing oil prices. Europe needs stability. And by sending the navy and aviation to the shores of Iran, the United States not only aggravates the situation, but makes it clear to European leaders that they are serious about the collapse of the "nuclear deal", and if Europe does not withdraw from it, it will get a military conflict and all the accompanying problems.

[PalBor]

Who is asking Europe? America and Israel? Do not make me laugh.

[Lapunevsky]

Already have to ask. The first signs of non-obedience of European leaders to North America have already flown.

[PalBor]

It would be good. The Germans buck, even Macron ... But these are only performances, not real opposition.

[Lapunevsky]

I hope it will be an avalanche. Every year, Europe will bump stronger and stronger until it realizes that true European unity and stability can only be obtained with Russia, and not with the hegemon overseas, which behaves in Europe like an elephant in a china shop, making its profits in wars and chaos.

[PalBor]

You understand, there the European Union decides. And in the EU, Poles, Romanians, Balts ... American slithers)))

[Boris Chernikov]

Well, for a light war they need where about 750 soldiers to fit for the company

[Elena Filatova]

Quote: PalBor

But God forbid, Bolton and the Jewish lobby convinced Trump to conduct a "light" war.

Why "God forbid"? The states are already falling into the abyss, and the next war will finally finish them off

[andrewkor]

North Korea did not fall for the provocations of the United States with a saber-rattling weapon, and Iran will not react for a long time or will answer in such a way that it doesn’t seem like much!

[viralig]

Amer just Afghanistan is not enough. And by the big scenario, they want to bend the whole region for themselves - do they want to bite off a too fatty piece - it can become a bone in the throat.

[Horse, people and soul]

The Yankees are not the same. Zadornov has already said everything for a long time.

[Russobel]

Yes, what would they choke on this bone finally, the winners.

[Karabas]

Amer just Afghanistan is not enough. And by the big scenario, they want to bend the whole region for themselves - do they want to bite off a too fatty piece - it can become a bone in the throat.

They won’t crush anything. They rattle with relics as always and leave.

[Never mind]

There is oil in Iran and the Persians do not recognize Israel! They would sit quietly Trump is not eternal.

[Lapunevsky]

Aren't you tired of being patriotic for the sake of the pros? The US fleet is not sent to intimidate Iran, but to intimidate the EU. Many EU countries, including US allies, oppose the destruction of the "nuclear deal" with Iran, and do not want to impose sanctions against it, as the US demands of them. Europe doesn't need another military conflict in its underbelly, new waves of refugees and skyrocketing oil prices. Europe needs stability. And by sending the navy and aviation to the shores of Iran, the United States not only aggravates the situation, but makes it clear to European leaders that they are serious about the collapse of the "nuclear deal", and if Europe does not leave it, it will get a military conflict and all the accompanying problems.

[asv363]

In the event of a military conflict, do you care about the fate of ordinary Iranians?

[Lapunevsky]

To be honest? Not. I am more concerned about the fate of Russians in Russia. Or in Ukraine. Yes, and in other countries. It is the Russians. Because I am Russian myself. Not an Iranian.

[asv363]

And I am Russian. And the fate of the Russians in Ukraine excites me no less. You just need to understand that the mess we have near us will not make life easier. In addition to the fact that Iran and I are neighbors in the Caspian Sea and partners in large energy projects, the United States and Russia are also crushing and imposing our bases from the west and south-west, their destroyers are constantly sailing along the Black Sea and Baltic, circling close to our borders airplanes and drones RER.

Europeans failed to bring to mind their INSTEX payment system, which circumvents illegal American sanctions. You still don’t understand much.

[Lapunevsky]

Yes, I can not understand much. But the fact that I am Russian and it does not matter to me that ordinary Iranians are there does not negate the fact that I nevertheless understand that Iran is currently friendly to Russia (this is the world situation), and the United States is a global opponent of Russia. And I also understand that every player in the East plays his game. Great. In which they are trying to draw Russia in some places, and vice versa, leave it to others.

[Karabas]

Iran and China are friends with more than Russia. Even in the crazy case of a real war, the mattresses will have to be very tight, they will not only remain without AUGs, I doubt that they will keep their cities.

[Observer2014]

US ships and marines rush to the shores of Iran

Oil can go up significantly

[Krasnodar]

Quote: Observer2014

US ships and marines rush to the shores of Iran

Oil can go up significantly

God forbid!

[Aqr009]

God forbid!

We are not cold, not hot, because all profits over $ 40 per barrel we at the IMF must give, otherwise we will be punished

[Krasnodar]

Not a fig. With "under 200" oil lived well. And now we will heal))

[asv363]

Quote: Krasnodar

Not a fig. With "under 200" oil lived well. And now we will heal))

Was not under "two hundred". Somewhere before 120 was, and Urals cost less than Brent.

[asv363]

Quote: Observer2014

Oil can go up significantly

So the price of gasoline / diesel fuel will rise, and with it the price of food. The cost of agricultural products will increase.

[zadorin1974]

Sergey Vyacheslavovich, the price of oil regulates the prices of all production, not only agricultural products, industrial goods, too. Oil is not only fuel, but also medicines, plastics and rubber (as they say from loaf to gandon). So this is another global financial crisis. For Russians, in the double size, the ratio of wage growth, we have a difference with rising prices, but in the West, when the cost of oil is cheaper, prices fall, while we continue to increase everything)))

[asv363]

Alexei, from the 90s to this day I do not remember the fall in gas prices and diesel fuel. Perhaps something purely decorative was, but not at the gas stations where I am. I completely agree with you, probably only medicines made from oil / oil products are unknown to me.

[zadorin1974]

Sergey Vyacheslavovich - the simplest is aspirin, there is also an antimicrobial group, sulfamilanidi, but in general there are many.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: asv363

Quote: Observer2014

Oil can go up significantly

So the price of gasoline / diesel fuel will rise, and with it the price of food. The cost of agricultural products will increase.

Quote: zadorin1974

Sergey Vyacheslavovich, the price of oil regulates the prices of all production, not only agricultural products, industrial goods, too. Oil is not only fuel, but also medicines, plastics and rubber (as they say from loaf to gandon). So this is another global financial crisis. For Russians, in the double size, the ratio of wage growth, we have a difference with rising prices, but in the West, when the cost of oil is cheaper, prices fall, while we continue to increase everything)))

But money will appear in the Russian Federation again! And there will be something to saw, what to withdraw through contractors / subcontractors to the private sector, etc. The country lives on a cut. And until 2015 she lived tolerably. +

[asv363]

Quote: Krasnodar

The country lives on a cut. And until 2015 she lived tolerably +.

When did you return to Russia for permanent residence three years ago? And if you are engaged, as they wrote, in the wholesale trade and production of fruits and vegetables, then raising oil prices is not a priori beneficial to you.

[Krasnodar]

Three years ago he returned to the crisis. A strong ruble is profitable for me, I am forced to do wholesale fruit and vegetables. Prior to this - medical tourism and equipment.

[asv363]

Quote: Krasnodar

Prior to this - medical tourism and equipment.

Then yes, a stable ruble at 31-32 would be beneficial to you. And as an importer of honey. equipment and how to tour. operator in the field of medical tourism.

[zadorin1974]

Do not confuse soft with warm Krasnodar. Or did you live in some other Russia until the age of 15? With us, after 2011, everything went downhill, and now, like in the horror story "On the Shore," if that I advise you to see.

[asv363]

Quote: zadorin1974

Or did you live in some other Russia before the age of 15?

He returned from Israel, with his own words.

[zadorin1974]

Well then it’s understandable. And I comb the back of my head, and what have the cuts and the private sector to do with it)))))

[Krasnodar]

Quote: asv363

Quote: zadorin1974

Or did you live in some other Russia before the age of 15?

He returned from Israel, with his own words.

Why come back? I come from Moldova)).

[asv363]

Didn't you serve in Israel? I don’t know for certain where they left from, maybe from Moldova, maybe from the Moldavian SSR.

[Krasnodar]

He served, of course. He left the Moldavian SSR. I just had no connection with Krasnodar before repatriation.

[Krasnodar]

Quote: zadorin1974

Do not confuse soft with warm Krasnodar. Or did you live in some other Russia until the age of 15? With us, after 2011, everything went downhill, and now, like in the horror story "On the Shore," if that I advise you to see.

Just after me 2008 everything went up.

[SHAMAN]

Comonn baby

as they say ..! If the DPRK could not be broken, then Iran is even more so. In vain Israel is catching its vassals there and scaring Russia in Syria .. It’s even interesting and excitement already, who who!
PS I remember Iran offering Russia, its military airfields, when we started the operation in Syria (Russia refused modestly)))! We can use it if that ..

[malyvalv]

Russia used Iranian airfields. But then infa went to the masses and the Iranian public was outraged by the use of Russian airfields in Iran. That was their mistake.
If our planes were standing there now, not a single rocket would fall there.

[PSih2097]

as Popandopulo said:

[Jeremiah]

As they already got these messengers of democracy. They rush. They care about everything and everyone, especially where there is oil, gas and minerals .... When Africans slaughter each other as whole tribes, but everything is normal on barren lands and it doesn’t bother anyone ... Everything is democratic and right

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Jeremiah

They care about everything and everyone, especially where oil, gas and minerals are ....

Well, so it is said:

The United States does not seek conflict with Iran, but we are ready to defend American forces and interests in the region.

"Your only fault is that we want oil."

[knn54]

Vasily, they need gas: the Yankes are annoyed by the fact that "IRI and the Russian Federation have" half "of all gas. Along the way, the" rebellious tribes "can raise their heads - there are enough separatist movements in Iran.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

The naval patrol boat, Priluki, also rushes off to the shores of Iran to strengthen the US naval group.
To increase the speed, one paddle is added.

[Horse, people and soul]

See how bold the Yankees are. They know that Iran does not have nuclear weapons.

This, now, before the North Koreans, the Yankees crap.

[Medvezhya lapa over Ki]

I don’t understand the mattresses: why climb to where exactly you are raking? Or do they want to evoke righteous pity on the knees of an aircraft carrier crew?

[Guards turn]

Urgently! Iranian President Hassan Rouhani to call comrade Kim-jong-un, he will inform in detail where, in this case, to send missiles.

[ssergey1978]

Quote: SHAMAN

Comonn baby

as they say ..! If the DPRK could not be broken, then Iran is even more so. In vain Israel is catching its vassals there and scaring Russia in Syria .. It’s even interesting and excitement already, who who!
PS I remember Iran offering Russia, its military airfields, when we started the operation in Syria (Russia refused modestly)))! We can use it if that ..

She did not refuse, but took it, but began to blow it in the media and the Persians asked for a way out.

[Dave36]

Iran does not have a nuclear shield - decomposing it for such a force is a week ... maybe two .. There are no problems at all. Iran is another matter and it is necessary to exacerbate it itself, because against the background of total sanctions, the ruling regime is doomed ..

[zadorin1974]

Here you Dmitry are partially mistaken. Iran stores a certain amount of both plutonium and "heavy water". Everyone knows this, at least the parties to the agreement. They will not make full-fledged nuclear charges in the near future. But the so-called dirty bombs (warheads for missiles) for once or twice and the mind and the will to bang it is enough. I think the Jews and Saudis will not add joy that they will be charged with defective nuclear weapons.

[ssergey1978]

Quote: PalBor

Hope you are right, for a diversion. But God forbid, Bolton and the Jewish lobby convinced Trump to conduct a "light" war. Moreover, they will not use infantry, but hammer and hammer and hammer with rockets and bombers.

Russia will probably be profitable if Iran begins to peck. Iran began to interfere in Syria. And there will be another opportunity to help the next wretched.

[Boromir1941]

something dumb like that. and not far from the apocalypse

[Fidel]

Goleted show-offs)) The state of the gopniks knows nothing else.

[MTR theme]

Iran jumped. A little more, and there the IRGC will be demolished

[Lapunevsky]

Dear members of the forum ... The point is not at all who - the United States or Iran who will sink or lead or be frightened. Iran is unable to withstand the US military might. Moreover, in case of war, Israel will participate in the conflict too. The point is in the US sanctions policy. The fleet is not sent to intimidate Iran, but to intimidate the EU. Many EU countries, including US allies, oppose the destruction of the "nuclear deal" with Iran. Europe doesn't need another military conflict in its underbelly, new waves of refugees and skyrocketing oil prices. Europe needs stability. And by sending the navy and aviation to the shores of Iran, the United States not only aggravates the situation, but makes it clear to European leaders that they are serious about the collapse of the "nuclear deal", and if Europe does not leave it, it will get a military conflict and all the accompanying problems. Now Europe has a choice - either to withdraw from the deal in solidarity with the United States and act as a united front in sanctions against Iran, or to reap the fruits of its tenacity in a possible military conflict between the United States and Israel and Iran.

[JD1979]

Come on ten more times, otherwise we are all zadorno for the letter T., the first time did not understand.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Lapunevsky

Dear members of the forum ... The point is not at all who - the United States or Iran who will sink or lead or be frightened. Iran is unable to withstand the US military might. Moreover, in case of war, Israel will participate in the conflict too. The point is in the US sanctions policy. The fleet is not sent to intimidate Iran, but to intimidate the EU. Many EU countries, including US allies, oppose the destruction of the "nuclear deal" with Iran. Europe doesn't need another military conflict in its underbelly, new waves of refugees and skyrocketing oil prices. Europe needs stability. And by sending the navy and aviation to the shores of Iran, the United States not only aggravates the situation, but makes it clear to European leaders that they are serious about the collapse of the "nuclear deal", and if Europe does not leave it, it will get a military conflict and all the accompanying problems. Now Europe has a choice - either to withdraw from the deal in solidarity with the United States and act as a united front in sanctions against Iran, or to reap the fruits of its tenacity in a possible military conflict between the United States and Israel and Iran.

You, Prokhor Lapunevsky, are repeating the same thing for the third time in the comments under the article. If no one notices and appreciates, can you write a cho-thread yet? Not tired of being smart for the pros?

Lapunevsky (Prokhor) Today, 11:05 NEW
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You are not tired of urpatriotnichat for the sake of pluses?

The last is that srakazma with a horseshoe in the back is not necessary for the opponents ..

[Lapunevsky]

People like you and the likes of you appreciate only comments like "yes, the USA crap, we will raaaaaz and soak everyone!" "Yes, Iran will beat the United States without even being out of breath!", "Yes, the United States S. Korea was scared, and they have little guts against Iran!" Here, such as you press the pluses for interruption, without even delving into the real meaning of what was said. And to write really what you think, even if it is criticism or "not patriotic" - you dare not. These are the disadvantages. It is very bad that here, on this site, everyone who is against the United States is judged by their boastful praise and everyone who looks at things realistically and speaks the truth and what they really think is humiliated. It is very reminiscent of how Stalin's commanders in their report underestimated their own losses and overestimated the Nazi losses, because they were afraid to tell the truth. They were afraid to pay for the truth with epaulettes, or even freedom or even life. Here everything is millions of times simpler, but the same washed away - you are afraid to write the truth here, because if you write it, there would be no three stars on your pseudo shoulder straps.

[KVU-NSVD]

Quote: Lapunevsky

Like you and others like you

Claims to me or even pent? If to me, then I will ask for examples from my comments - they are available. And in general, formulate more clearly what the given above-mentioned community means - it’s interesting ..

And to write really what you think, even

Just as I think, so I write

These are the cons

spit in principle

but I washed it off - you are afraid to write the truth here, because if you write it, three stars on your pseudo epaulettes of your profile would not exist.

He always seemed to be writing the truth and expressing his opinion. I can share "shoulder straps" - but this is probably in the capabilities of the administration - if they can, then I don't mind ... contact.

It is very reminiscent of how the commanders in the report underestimated their own losses and inflated the fascist losses in the report because they were afraid to tell the truth.

Eka brings you something - there is just a club of interests ... PS "Vas" is written with a capital letter PS2 You are a plus sign from a broad general's shoulder and more stars. PS3 When you are not favored, then perhaps this is not a conspiracy to conceal the truth, but simply disagreement with your opinion? Chop the truth, Prokhor, may the force be with you ..

[sogdy]

Quote: Lapunevsky

Many EU countries, including US allies, oppose the destruction of the "nuclear deal" with Iran.

Nothing that is an intergovernmental agreement?

[Ural-4320]

Quote: Fidel

Goleted show-offs)) The state of the gopniks knows nothing else.

The same feeling arose. First, the statement that we will sail to Iran, because it is wrong. Iran replies that it will break people for it. Now the Americans are shouting "They are beating ours!" , and send help.
It’s like wall to wall in a fight - there is a half-spiral in one of the sides, launching a massacre with its provocations.

[boathouse]

There will be no war, no one needs it. The most that may be is that simply from the air they will "close" Iran's nuclear program once and for all, just as Israel once "closed" nuclear programs in Iraq and Syria.

[Krasnodar]

Iran has long dispersed its nuclear program across various facilities. Otherwise, the Jews would have closed them long ago.

[Brturin]

Quote: PalBor

Moreover, they will not use infantry, but hollow and hollow and hollow rockets and bombers.

I recalled the reports of the end of 2015 - A video report from Iran’s underground missile base located at a depth of 500 m. Https://rg.ru/2015/10/16/baza.html. Military power is not comparable, but the answer will be, the question is what kind of losses the states are prepared for ....

[Rusj]

Iran is not some kind of Papuans. They have their own missile weapons and normal air defense. The answer will be such that the Northern Sea Route will have to open. And the Amers will be sunk and even a couple of ships and block the channel. So this is a Ponte Amer .......

[boathouse]

"Iran is not the Papuans there."
The only difference is that the Papuans have thin beards, if any, but one-on-one.

[donavi49]

Missile weapons - yes. Most likely there will even be an exchange. The Iranians will hit Riyadh, and the Saudis Dongfenami across Iran.

As for air defense - no. Air defense old trash, which is experienced without problems, just the facts:
base air defense complex Hawk (manufactured in the USA) - produced on the line delivered to Shah. Yes, they matched it all with the Chinese radar, yes they changed something there in the rocket, and they even loaded them onto the truck and seemed to even make them work. However, this is an ancient complex of American design.

second (and most modern) self-produced complex - the newest version, the land Standard, on a movable chassis of different types. Part of the production was transferred to the Shah, partly helped to establish the Chinese. Interestingly, the land version was presented literally a short time after the peak of the warming relationship and the lifting of sanctions. Coincidence? Don't think .

Next begins the import or import dopilka:
FM-80 - Chinese Krotal. Near radius, but for the Americans this complex will be a problem only in the later stages (when they take out the air defense and become insolent).

Rapier is a cast-iron air defense system of near radius. Moreover, it will be difficult to crush it with modern obstacles (at the airbase, a huge debate was with hoses and other things). But this is an ancient complex of dubious combat readiness (for the Shah was supplied only by the air defense system + zips + simulators). Well, like Krotal - only when they become insolent.

Beech - yes, but there are very, very, very few of them.

Thor - again, there are very few of them (fewer Buk).

C-300 is relatively fresh. Yes. But, again, there are not too many of them. And much in efficiency will depend on application and cover. If they take to Bender Abbas threaten AUG = they will be burned there.

C-200 - today zero efficiency.

Chinese C-75 - it will be more efficient to remake it in the PTRC and throw it on US bases as Yemenis do.

Actually everything. Various piece samples, Bavar, barrel artillery - do not take into account.

Complicates the case of the Air Force - they are a museum. The most formidable F-14. But every year - reduces the number of sides. And there is no place to take the details - for the United States sawed off its planes and the remaining unutilized kits go according to the severity of control at the level of strategic nuclear forces. The only operator in the world besides the USA is Iran.

MiGs - also do not become younger. And today, the MiG-29 against heaps of modernized Eagles / Super Hornets = in general, very, very good luck.

The crowd of F-5 including its own production, well, this is not serious. Rather, the Saudis can still be caught, but there are no Americans. There are also residual phantoms.

The fleet is a surface fleet of suicide bombers. Having Krotal / 1-2 PU Standard1 = they will be killed quickly. Underwater - can do something. But again, for good luck.

Continuous mining of the strait is a temporary dirty trick. They will trawl and drag convoys. Small high-speed boats with anti-ship missiles. At the first stage, they will be dangerous (again, is there enough spirit to use immediately?). As soon as the air defense is demolished, they will begin the hunt for less priority targets (these boats)

Ace up the sleeve (in addition to massive attacks by OTRK on US bases, Riyadh, Israel) - a large number of camouflage civilian trucks that carry 2-3 PKR Noor (S-802 - a la Exocet). They will have high survivability and sufficient efficiency (repel the attack of 2 vehicles - 5 anti-ship missiles = even Burke will be challenged). The otvetka (the hunt for all trucks indiscriminately) can be used for their own purposes - making plots with killed civilians on all kinds of farm / household vehicles that fell into your hands.

No, Iran is the hardest nut for the United States since Vietnam. But not more.

[zadorin1974]

But after all, as an option, who and what wants to sacrifice. For one day, it will not work to ruin the whole of Iran. The time for the answer will be different

[SPQR]

Thank you for your comment. It actually turned out more interesting than the article!

[Egg]

donavi49
A competent review, but everything happens in life, and for every sly bolt there is **** in Yugoslavia, too, they thought that everything would go smoothly on paper but forgot about the ravines, did they bring down the vaunted invisibility with an outdated 125 complex? Shot down, and how many missiles were diverted by conventional microwaves? Weapons don't always decide, people are more important

[donavi49]

But, I recall, despite the significantly increased costs and time of the operation - the goal was achieved. They sawed off Kosovo, closed Milosevic to The Hague, where he died, changed power to Eurooptimists.

Translating to Iran. Will it be easier for the political and religious leadership of Iran - knowing that the coalition (which will probably be with the Saudis and Israel) spent more than $ 200 billion + lost 200% more than planned + the operation was delayed for more than a year. Despite the fact that they will return a thread of Shah or Eurooptimist, the current leadership will either be imprisoned or driven underground, or will they turn the country into Libya 2015 with policy democracy?

[sogdy]

Quote: Rusj

And the Amers will be sunk and even a couple of ships and block the channel.

That is, a war against our interests?

[asv363]

US ships and marines rush to the shores of Iran

Do the US Marines want to be kneeling again, after which they will weep on camera?

[Ross xnumx]

“In response to signs of Iran’s increased readiness for offensive operations against US forces and our interests»

With great confidence, we can assume that by voting on the site on the issue:
WOULD YOU WANT AN ATTENTIVE AMERICAN DOG TO KILL TEETH (TOOTH)
we will get most of the positive answers.

The listed forces rush to the shores of Iran, complementing the power of the 5th US fleet

What American president (general) doesn't like to drive fast to nowhere? Not even two years have passed since the "notorious forces" rushed towards the Korean Peninsula ... With what swiftness they used to race towards Afghanistan ... Notorious greyhound and agility were shown in the "decisive striving" to punish the Assad army with a missile strike (chop with axes) ...
Haste, as you know, is needed in three cases. Here the irony on the question: "What does the rooster think while chasing the chicken?" The answer is known: I will catch up - I will trample, if I do not catch up, I will warm up. It is pertinent to note that the rooster was pretty shabby, and he was not chasing after a chicken ...
How known and predictable are the interests of the world's "hegemons" ... but the ways of the Lord are inscrutable ...

[aglet]

they rushed once already:

[ssergey1978]

Quote: Rusj

Iran is not some kind of Papuans. They have their own missile weapons and normal air defense. The answer will be such that the Northern Sea Route will have to open. And the Amers will be sunk and even a couple of ships and block the channel. So this is a Ponte Amer .......

Do not flatter them, they are Papuans, well, unless they run naked. The United States will not be able to resist in its development and technical weapons. Well, except that Russia will lend a helping hand, we have nowhere to go with the money so as not to spend on the next Papuans with a cannibalistic regime.

[Rusj]

Well then, the Yankees of the real Papuans in Afghanistan can not disperse ah? Compared to the USSR, they sometimes didn’t even fight there, then they miserable sit on roadblocks on the way and don’t show their noses at the fence so they could buy cigarettes on the market for a special operation. Not in those days, my friend, that everyone and even the Papuans looked at these overseas primates with fear. And Iran is a serious country and with very serious weapons and, most importantly, motivation with excellent fighters and able to fight.
Or do people like you still believe that they are all-powerful!? No, Russia has proved it to them in Syria and Crimea, now in Venezuela, and then for them everything will only get worse.

[Egg]

Quote: ssergey1978

we have nowhere to put money

And what prevents quietly printing a little bit, just a little bit?

[ssergey1978]

The ruble is not a dollar print you crash nafig.

[ssergey1978]

Quote: CERBERFOL

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

They ruined the already rich Kuzyu. In the chermet will go.

[sogdy]

Quote: ssergey1978

ssergey1978 (Sergey)

May 8, 2019 21:16 p.m. Registered
Are you a zealot ?!

[ssergey1978]

The self-healer. Thought for a long time?

[MTR theme]

Marine Corps .. KMP campaign will be the main striking force ... their MTR apparently without the 75th Rangers and Green Berets regiment will be and is already conducting operations ... For a long time, the US Navy did not see the Mines in action ... last resort, like they lit up Yugoslavia ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: MTR Topic

For a long time the MTR of the US Marine Corps did not see in the actions ...

... Ever since I demolished the last igruhu on my computer. Basil, in secret: changing a nickname does not always allow you to find incognito. on the resource.

[MTR theme]

You confuse me with someone, I’m not trying to be incognito, it’s just on this resource that there are few who are in the subject at all ... and there are a lot of ... dubious people, otherwise, understand the comments that accuse me of working and money for cons I get ... vigilant citizens from the 30s there are critically many ...
And so, in fact, no one has refuted me here either with numbers or with links ...
And it would not hurt you to essentially respond to the comment, and not express your visions. If you don’t know anything about the MTR, it’s better to keep silent ...

[ssergey1978]

Quote: ssergey1978

Quote: CERBERFOL

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

They ruined the already rich Kuzyu. In the chermet will go.

For what minus that, I didn’t ditch him. You are strange people.

[Shraik]

Minus for the lack of respect for our sun.

[ssergey1978]

Quote: Rusj

Well then, the Yankees of the real Papuans in Afghanistan can not disperse ah? Compared to the USSR, they sometimes didn’t even fight there, then they miserable sit on roadblocks on the way and don’t show their noses at the fence so they could buy cigarettes on the market for a special operation. Not in those days, my friend, that everyone and even the Papuans looked at these overseas primates with fear. And Iran is a serious country and with very serious weapons and, most importantly, motivation with excellent fighters and able to fight.
Or do people like you still believe that they are all-powerful!? No, Russia has proved it to them in Syria and Crimea, now in Venezuela, and then for them everything will only get worse.

Do you happen to earn half-time jobs in the circus?

[Saffron]

Again window dressing, they will not touch Iran. The probability is too low that the world will simply swallow some next provocation with a subsequent attack on Iran. The US is no longer the same, there are too many lies even for "allies". And Iran is not such an easy adversary.

[Lunaaron]

The Persians are the Old Testament enemies of Israel. Therefore, the military machine of greater Israel (America) will be thrown on Iran. The goal is to neutralize the latter for the security of Israel. In general, everything that is happening now in the Middle East is being done in the global interests of Israel. Including the "Arab Spring". True, there is also Russia that can break off kosher the whole tsimmes. :-)

[Elena Filatova]

Until 2021, an attack on Venezuela and / or Iran is not very likely. But after the re-election of trump - almost inevitably

[Old26]

Quote: KOCMOC

It's like in Syria, hammering nowhere ..

In fact, this strike in Syria was so negotiable that it was rushing out of all the cracks. It was also necessary to eat a fish (to show its steepness) and not to choke on a bone (not to affect Russia's zones of interests). And the choice of goals itself suggests that no one has destroyed anything serious

Quote: KOCMOC

And what is one aircraft carrier, it’s nothing at all.

Well, you should know that an aircraft carrier does not go alone. And the AUG may include a pair of cruisers and 4-6 destroyers. . What is now the composition of this AUG is not yet known

Quote: CERBERFOL

It’s terrible how you want to see as many planes on the deck of Admiral Kuznetsov in the Persian Gulf. Not for war, no. And so that it was. For the world after all.

On that "Kuznetsov" which is now under repair? Zero ... and it won't be long before he ends up in the Persian Gulf, if at all

Quote: PalBor

Well, here you are not quite right. Not only is an aircraft carrier 80-100 aircraft, it is usually accompanied by two or three destroyers, a missile cruiser, frigates ... But in principle, Iran will not be beaten off from one AUG, but also defeated. .

There is another aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean now, "Stannis" and as far as I don't know the information was true, but he with the "Lincoln" should go to the Persian Gulf.
The probability of AUG defeat is close to zero. Americans will not come close to the shores of Iran. And Iran has a significant number of anti-ship missiles - subsonic with a range of up to 100 km. And 4-6 ships with cruise missiles and powerful air defense will be able to greatly reduce this threat. Attempts to harm the AUG will certainly be. And maybe they will try to fight back from the AUG, but here it is unlikely to defeat it.
And if the second AUG arrives before the start of the shooting, the chances of the Iranians will still decrease. Plus in the AUG - two boats. Two AUGs have 4. Each has a dozen rockets. The transfer of V-52 strategists with cruise missiles to Diego Garcia is also a trump card

Quote: cniza

If they climb, break off there to the fullest.

Or Iran, which is more likely. Too different weight categories.

Quote: zadorin1974

You are a little modest - usually 15-17 pennants are included in the AOG (except for destroyers, corvettes, supply vessels and a couple of nuclear submarines).

Uamrad counted only combat surface ships. And yes, given supply vessels, tankers, and other auxiliary units, maybe a dozen and a half

Quote: zadorin1974

I completely agree with you on the account of the attack on Iran. It is practically plunging the world into a fuel crisis - Iran will immediately and firmly (though for several years) shut up the Persian Gulf (mines, anti-ship missiles, ship flooding).

On the teeth, alas on the teeth. Iran, of course, can block one or both channels in the Strait of Hormuz, but this will hit Iran first and foremost. Pipelines near the Saudis and other oil-producing countries of the Gulf pass around the strait. Through the territory of Saudi Arabia, Oman. But having blocked the strait, Iran will remain sitting on its oil, not having the opportunity to sell it. All pipelines, with the exception of one, do not have an exit abroad. The capacity of the pipeline to the Caspian is scanty. And it will need to be taken out of there somehow. An oil pipeline to India via Pakistan has not yet been built. So the crisis will certainly be, but not so global. For several years, Iran could not sell oil in large quantities and nothing, oil prices did not creep up too much. For us, this crisis will come sideways, and not to the state, where the budget is calculated on a lower price of oil than it will be. And for ordinary citizens. The price of gas will jump and decently enough. After all, it is not for nothing that there is a joke that our gas prices rise in three cases

First case. When world oil prices rise
The second case. When world oil prices fall
Third case. When oil prices in the world do not rise and do not fall.

Quote: zadorin1974

And as soon as he arrives in Israel, I don’t even want to think ..

Well, if he flies to Israel before he enters this war, this will be the beginning of the end of Iran. As the beginning of the end of Iraq was the war and the capture of Kuwait. Then, not only the United States will subscribe to this, but they will again assemble a coalition, and then Iran certainly will not find it enough

Quote: zadorin1974

And there is no need to blow in your ears for the "Iron Dome" Messrs. Jews (they will definitely show up) - Hamas tested just the other day = only 30-40% of successful interception.

In fact, no one blows in the ears for the "Iron Dome" and no one makes another "wunderwaffe" out of it. This system is designed to intercept short-range missiles and projectiles. In addition, the interception algorithm is based on the fact that the system does not intercept all shells fired into Israel. The radar will prolong the trajectory and shoot down only those targets that fall on the territory of cities. Those that fall on the wasteland are not intercepted. Therefore, Hamas's assertion of a 30-40% successful interception only says that 60-70% of the ammunition they launched did not reach their targets, but fell from scratch.

[Old26]

Quote: zadorin1974

I said that I’ll catch up))) So (when I express my opinion) the first use of nuclear weapons in Iran will fly in the opposite direction from neighbors. Since no one will be interested in living near the nuclear desert and hosting the irradiated refugees. So that the drum is on your neck and the wind accompanying with your show.

Well, no one will use nuclear weapons against Iran. But the answer from the neighbors is interesting. Who are these neighbors who are responsible for Iran. Is it really Afghanistan? Or is Pakistan? So, it’s more likely that Saudam will drive nuclear weapons, if not directly, then technologies. India? Who else will send the answer ????

Quote: Lapunevsky

And by sending the navy and aviation to the shores of Iran, the United States not only aggravates the situation, but makes it clear to European leaders that they are serious about the collapse of the "nuclear deal", and if Europe does not leave it, it will get a military conflict and all the accompanying problems.

If the Persians block the Strait of Hormuz, then the whole EU will support the United States in a single system, for oil in the EU is identified precisely through this strait

Quote: SHAMAN

PS I remember Iran offering Russia, its military airfields, when we started the operation in Syria (Russia refused modestly)))! We can use it if that ..

There was a famous song in the movie "World Guy" EMNIP. So there were the words - "what was not with me - I remember", So it is with you. Iran ONE once allowed to use his air base as an airfield jump. AND TWICE allowed to use its airspace for the passage of cruise missiles. And in the future all this FORBIDDEN... Therefore, our TU-160 and TU-95 are forced to fly around Europe in order to strike at Syrian territory. And our surface and submarine ships are releasing 4-8 "Calibers" at a time instead of the 26 that were released from the Caspian. Modestly say refused ... No, we were just sent in a certain direction

Quote: zadorin1974

Here you Dmitry are partially mistaken. Iran stores a certain amount of both plutonium and "heavy water".

He does not have plutonium in commercial quantities, and if there is, then a few kilograms. That uranium with 20% enrichment is scattered up to 3,5% and its quantity is limited. The rest of the uranium has been deposited in other countries. Exactly the same situation with heavy water. Its production is strictly limited, the surplus is also transferred to storage in other countries.

Quote: zadorin1974

They won’t make full-fledged nuclear charges in the near future. But the so-called dirty bombs (warheads for missiles) are only two times, and that’s enough mind and will to bang it ..

Uranium enriched to 3,5% is simply not suitable for creating "dirty" bombs. They need nuclear waste, but they do not have the required amount. With such charges, they will put an end to themselves ...

Quote: Krasnodar

Iran has long dispersed its nuclear program across various facilities. Otherwise, the Jews would have closed them long ago.

A nuclear program is not the production of shovels or pans. She did not disperse it to the mass of enterprises. As they had two centrifuge production - and remained. As there was one heavy water production facility, it remained. As there was one reactor on which theoretically in scanty amounts plutonium can be produced - it remains. I’m not talking about lower level enterprises. And this is not about the Jews. Iran is too far away to launch an airstrike on it, as on Iraq at one time. To do this, you need to have jump airfields in the same Saudi Arabia. And so far, all the statements of the Iranian leaders about the desire to erase Israel from the political map of the world are just talk. I think that Israel closely monitors the situation with Iran

Quote: donavi49

C-300 is relatively fresh. Yes. But, again, there are not too many of them. And much in efficiency will depend on application and cover. If they take to Bender Abbas threaten AUG = they will be burned there.

They will not take the S-300 anywhere. EMNIP one division guards the Bushehr nuclear power plant, two - the capital. Bare these two objects? Hardly

[zadorin1974]

I welcome Vladimir. At the moment, Iran has about 130-150 kg of 3,5% of uranium. There are centrifuges for its enrichment. It is clear that with such a quantity it is possible to get only within 15 (?) kg of weapons. It is clear that to create a warhead Enough (you need somewhere 25-30 kg, well, I’m not a physicist). After all, Iran didn’t pass 900 tons of uranium to anyone and they didn’t convert all centrifuges. Will spent fuel elements not go to a dirty bomb? At the expense of our neighbors, who’s the main Buyers of Iranian oil? Correctly, India and China. Well, and if you drive a rat into a corner? If Ayatollah announce holy war and half the country could become martyrs, all will be to smeha.Ya I think that the Persians for just drive themselves will not give to the stone age.

[alex-sherbakov48]

The DPRK broke off from the DPRK, because the DPRK has nuclear weapons, while Iran does not. Other states have a science - urgently need to acquire nuclear weapons and means of delivery to the United States, then we will quickly leave behind. If Iraq had nuclear weapons and their means of delivery to the United States, the latter would not even have jerked toward Iraq, the same applies to Libya. But after all, radiation will also get us, so we need to do something so that there is no nuclear desert near us. The Turks will also not want to be in the zone of nuclear contamination, and Pakistan and India will also protest against the use of nuclear weapons against Iran.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

In 214, Caracalla decided to finally destroy Parthia. During the campaign, many cities and fortresses of the Parthians in Mesopotamia were taken, the graves of Parthian kings in Arbel were destroyed and desecrated, which caused great outrage throughout Parthia. The imperial prefect Praetorium Makrin, who did not want to continue the war, plotted against Caracalla and ordered him killed on the way from Edessa to Carra. The emperor was killed on April 8, 217, but his death did not stop the Parthians, who soon invaded Mesopotamia. The decisive battle took place near the city of Nisibis in 217. It lasted three days and Makrin offered Artaban V the world. Under the terms of the peace treaty, Macrin returned to Parthia all the cities and Parthian fortresses previously captured by Caracalla in Mesopotamia, as well as the lands captured from her earlier, and Rome also pledged to pay a huge indemnity of 200 million sisters. Despite these conditions, the inscription “Parthian Victory” appeared on Roman coins. Victoria Parthica. (I remember the victory in the Cold War)
In fact, Rome tried to repeat the success of the world's first great Persian empire, only in the eastern Mediterranean and some 500 years later.
As a result of the war, a large, once victorious Roman army, numbering approx. 70-100 thousand soldiers were essentially destroyed. All the achievements of Rome in the wars with Parthia were lost. It was the last Parthian-Roman war of many others that went on for three hundred years with varying success, as a result of which the times of the Roman Empire were already numbered.
What happened later that allowed the heirs of Pax Romana, Pax Americana to give an occasion to reconsider the view on the Iranian problem? Yes, there was no reason. During the Crusades, the West regularly felt the pressure of the Persians, read the Mongols, feeding the army of resistance of the invaders. And the Kurd Salah ad-din put an end to the expansion of both the Mongols and the Crusaders. Then, for several centuries, the Ottomans created an insurmountable barrier to Western influence in those places. With the fall of the Great Ottoman Empire in the last century, a faint vacuum was felt and the presence of first European and then overseas corporations, with their interests in energy resources, began to increase. But, in fact, the presence of the Russian army in the first and Soviet army during the Second World War did not give their appetites to play. Today, Russia also has not weak interests in the lands of ancient Parthia.
Now one wrong step in that territory separates the bicentennial hegemon from its thousand-year-old progenitor to follow him into oblivion.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

Wrong. " AND Kurd Salah ad-Din put an end to expansion as Mongols. "
read Mamluk Baybars.

[Diana]

Now one wrong step in that territory separates the bicentennial hegemon from its thousand-year-old progenitor to follow him into oblivion.

Ek enough! "Hegemon" has been a "hegemon" for only 75 years. And even Vietnam with the support of the USSR did not send it "into oblivion". And Iran - even in alliance with Russia - will not send, even less so.

[pyc.arpeccop tornado 150]

"Hegemon" is a "hegemon" for only 75 years

But they don’t think of themselves like that. Judging by the attitude of the founding fathers, they were born in imperial togas and with scepters.
During the construction of Washington in the middle of the century before last, ancient Egyptian, Masonic and Roman religious signs were copied. Domineering paraphernalia almost completely repeats the imperial Roman. And the Monroe Doctrine will soon be two hundred years old.
https://prong777.livejournal.com/568275.html

And even Vietnam with the support of the USSR did not send him "into oblivion". And Iran - even in alliance with Russia - will not send, even less so.

About Parthia was written allegorically. Persia itself (Iran) in it occupied a small part. The main battles took place in the territory of present-day Turkey (the battle of Carra, Seleucia), Mesopotamia (present-day Iraq and Syria), Armenia, etc. And so it will be today with some territories. What has Israel dealt with Hezbollah already? Iran will have someone to rely on besides Russia and Syria.

What can I say? If "hot" showdowns begin again between the United States and Iran, it will be quite kosher from the point of view of Ukraine's interests.

But, of course, there is enough space for kosher in hohlobantustan. But he would not advise them to move again in the opposite direction from the promised land. Although why my advice to the kagalchat people, walking today in an embrace with zigging benderopetlyurovtsami.

[Diana]

"Zigging Benderopetlyurites" is powerful! You have talent! Burn ISCHO !!

[Diana]

What can I say? If "hot" showdowns begin again between the United States and Iran, it will be quite kosher from the point of view of Ukraine's interests.

[SASHA OLD]

The United States does not seek conflict with Iran, but we are ready to defend American forces and interests in the region.

Well tady let them not stutter about the Montreux Convention in general

[Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock]

Quote: SHAMAN

Comonn baby

as they say ..! If the DPRK could not be broken, then Iran is even more so. In vain Israel is catching its vassals there and scaring Russia in Syria .. It’s even interesting and excitement already, who who!
PS I remember Iran offering Russia, its military airfields, when we started the operation in Syria (Russia refused modestly)))! We can use it if that ..

They have some strange associations: Iran REFUSED Russia in the KHAMSKY form to provide a jump airbase, and you write "I remember Iran offered Russia its military airfields when we started the operation in Syria (Russia refused modestly))" ...

[Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock]

Quote: PalBor

Well, in Iraq, they bought the generals, and then they tricked and hanged them. This time. Iraq did not defeat Iran, as a result of the war it was more likely a draw. These are two. Persians are not Arabs, they are three and steeper than all previous ones.

***
In genetics, the Iranians are very diluted with Arabs, and in love for dollars, the same Arabs are.
In the East, three respect: the authority of power, the authority of money, and only then, the authority of Allah!
So, As-salamu alaikum va-rahmatu-Llah (السلام عليكم ورحمة الله)

[irbis0373]

Again a storm in a glass!

[Egg]

Quote: donavi49

despite significantly increased costs and operation time - the goal was achieved

It will be more complicated with Iran, religious fanaticism is a terrible thing

[Dr. Hub]

Concussion. There will be no operation. For the war with Iran, dozens of such carrier groups are needed. And Iran is not so simple, you can learn from it in full. I do not think that the Americans will turn up.

[Alexander Petrov1]

The main nuclear reactor should not be screwed up.

[sannyomd]

I like this on-duty wording - a threat to American interests in the region - with which they justify their invasion wherever they like. It is strange that Russia, through its actions on its territory, does not yet threaten their interests, as for example Venezuela.

[sannyomd]

Quote: Dr. Hub

Concussion. There will be no operation. For the war with Iran, dozens of such carrier groups are needed. And Iran is not so simple, you can learn from it in full. I do not think that the Americans will turn up.

This is yes, they will not turn up, but this shaking of them, on every occasion, infuriates everyone and provoke anything and everything where they do not turn up.

[NF68]

Democracy driven.

[Vladimir Beketov]

IRAN is blunt, offensive for the Army leadership! Islyam probably gives way!

[Karabas]

At the same time, the general commander of the CENTCOM Marine Corps, General Kenneth Mackenzie, requested the transfer of the B-52 Stratofortress bombers.

What a power, power!

[Viknt]

Quote: Dr. Hub

Concussion. There will be no operation. For the war with Iran, dozens of such carrier groups are needed. And Iran is not so simple, you can learn from it in full. I do not think that the Americans will turn up.

For a war, of course, it will not be enough, but there are no sufficient grounds to assert that "no operation" will take place either. From the Americans, it will begin, following the Syrian model, a massive missile launch. From something, they rush as if they broke off the chain. It is not worth counting on the fact that Russia will seriously embed the US in the Iranian showdown. Russia can send its troops to Iran only in case of a threat of occupation, as was the case in 39 with Poland and later with Iran itself. Russia will not fight instead of the Iranians! It is strange that no one takes into account Iran's retaliatory actions in Afghanistan. It is significant that no one even considers China's participation in the defense of Iran. The actions of the Americans are becoming more and more like the actions of madmen, which they do not know the next moment, the consequences can be whiter than serious. The United States can bomb Iran, but that will not end resistance to American aggression. The United States is not ready to conduct a long-term war involving a large contingent; American society is fed up with the aggressive wars of the United States.