Defective head frigate returned to the German fleet

The first frigate of the class F125 "Baden-Württemberg" was handed over to the German armed forces. This is reported by the Navy of Germany. As can be understood from newsThe ceremony took place at the Wilhelmshaven naval base without much publicity and festivities. Representatives of the customer and the contractor signed the acceptance documents and shook hands. This action is all and limited. There were appropriate reasons for such an organization of “celebrations”.

The lead ship Baden-Württemberg, which gave its name to the entire type, was built from 2 in November 2011 by the ARGE F125 group, jointly owned by Thyssen-Krupp and Lürssen. The frigate was launched in the 2013 year, and in the 2016 year it was received by the military.
However, it was soon discovered that the product turned out to be defective. The ship had a roll on the right side in 1,3 degrees, overweight, problems at the central post. As a result, for the first time in German practice, the ship was returned to the manufacturer.

30 April 2019 of the year “Baden-Württemberg” was re-transmitted to the military. Now he will have to be commissioned after a cycle of verification measures that he was unable to complete last time. A similar procedure remains for three more ships of this class.

Comments

[Eragon]

I read it. Somehow I immediately remembered the screams of all the protesters, about the bad (just to quote the censorship does not allow) aircraft of "Sukhoi" (Sheremetyevo). Interestingly, in Germany, too, "everything is gone" and the German industry is in complete ass? Vsepalschiki, answer if you can.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Eragon

I read it. Somehow, I immediately remembered the screams of all the protesters, about the bad (precisely censorship does not allow to quote) Sukhoi planes

From the fact that in Germany it has become very bad with military shipbuilding, we are not getting any better. These are not related things.

[Olezhek]

Hmm, the transfer of arrows is not counted

[Simple]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

From the fact that in Germany it became very bad with military shipbuilding

It was bad with orders and not with carabling.

"Keel
According to naval inspector Andreas Krause, the German navy will grow significantly in the coming years. “We need more ships and planes in order to be able to provide parallel defense of the country and the alliance, as well as managing the international crisis,” said the vice admiral to the German press agency. Therefore, by the 2031 year, it is planned to strengthen the fleet by an average of one ship per year. "Then we will have a park, which is 30 percent more than today."

According to Krause, the German fleet currently has 46 ships and is "the smallest fleet in its history."
..."

https://www.kn-online.de/Nachrichten/Schleswig-Holstein/Neue-Schiffe-fuer-die-Deutche-Marine

[Phil77]

Andrey, I greet you! You are in the subject. Please, explain please, is it their breakdown, or something went wrong?

[NF68]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Quote: Eragon

I read it. Somehow, I immediately remembered the screams of all the protesters, about the bad (precisely censorship does not allow to quote) Sukhoi planes

From the fact that in Germany it has become very bad with military shipbuilding, we are not getting any better. These are not related things.

In Germany, things are not just bad with military shipbuilding. The entire Bundeswehr in recent 5-6 years does not look much better than this new frigate. Such a share of defective military equipment as in recent years in the Bundeswehr has never been.

[Yarhann]

Well, if the grandmother in the Bundestag made the support of beggars from Africa and Asia the main priority, then what other results could be.

[NF68]

Quote: Yarhann

Well, if the grandmother in the Bundestag made the support of beggars from Africa and Asia the main priority, then what other results could be.

For this business in Germany annually allocated about 20 billion euros. And it is not the first year that such money has been found "somehow". But for the repair of roads and bridges and a lot of other things on the territory of the former West Germany, for some reason, money is constantly not enough.

[Yarhann]

I guess that the infrastructure is mainly being repaired at the expense of local budgets, and as a rule they can count grandmothers and they are always lacking there. But grandmothers for beggars are most likely allocated from the federal budget - after all, they know better upstairs what the German layman needs (bridges and roads will wait), all Germans are especially those who inject sutra and are very glad to feed hordes of beggars until evening - that’s how the furrer decided in a skirt.

[NF68]

Quote: Yarhann

I guess that the infrastructure is mainly being repaired at the expense of local budgets, and as a rule they can count grandmothers and they are always lacking there. But grandmothers for beggars are most likely allocated from the federal budget - after all, they know better upstairs what the German layman needs (bridges and roads will wait), all Germans are especially those who inject sutra and are very glad to feed hordes of beggars until evening - that’s how the furrer decided in a skirt.

Something is also allocated from the federal budget. After the reunification of Germany, huge amounts of money began to be allocated for the arrangement of the territory of the former Federal Republic of Germany, while western federal lands, as it were, remained on the sidelines. Now it has become more apparent. And here, how very timely the happiness in the form of refugees from BV and from North Africa fell. And again, the bridges and roads of the western federal lands were left without proper funding. The lack of teachers became more acute, and it came to the point that in Saxony it was proposed to invite GERMAN LANGUAGE teachers from Poland and the Czech Republic to teach in schools of this federal state! There are not enough technicians in the field of information technology, and money for this is again not allocated in the right amount.

[Yarhann]

Well, it remains to be found among beggars from Africa and Asia experts in the German language, while specialists in technical specialties and IT are practically not a real sample)). I just can’t understand that the Germans have been suffering this power for so long, but I’ve crap in full with this unregulated reception of rogues. Why do people not vote against this party in the elections that the grandmother promoted, or the brain, like in a scoop on the web, and one idea was only unpredictable because let there be a granny at the helm. I’m wondering who will sit whom Grandfather Putin or Baba Merkel will spend)) they have a campaign there between themselves socialist competition)))

[mark1]

Quote: NF68

In Germany, things are not just bad with military shipbuilding. The entire Bundeswehr in recent 5-6 years does not look much better than this new frigate.

Everything is cyclical - reached a minimum there will soon be a sharp rise. Industry allows, there are no restrictions on technology, the economy is floating (in the sense afloat) they did not plan a war for tomorrow (and therefore will not be because the initiative is on their side).

[NF68]

Quote: mark1

Quote: NF68

In Germany, things are not just bad with military shipbuilding. The entire Bundeswehr in recent 5-6 years does not look much better than this new frigate.

Everything is cyclical - reached a minimum there will soon be a sharp rise. Industry allows, there are no restrictions on technology, the economy is floating (in the sense afloat) they did not plan a war for tomorrow (and therefore will not be because the initiative is on their side).

It is not a matter of German industry, but the top leadership of Germany. They somehow managed to create inconceivable bureaucracy in the same Bundeswehr, but for the first time that the Bundeswehr really needs, they have not found any funds or people in the right amount. And they did not punish anyone for this and did not demand to correct the deplorable situation of the Bundeswehr. In the 1970-1980-ies this was not close. Then for a possible war with the USSR and its allies seriously prepared.

[mark1]

Quote: NF68

for the fact that the Bundeswehr really needs, it’s not the first year that everyone has not found the right funds or people in the right amount

Here urine in the head will strike that it is time to prepare for war (naturally under the new leadership) and everything will radically change in a very short time period. You should not relax and flatter yourself.

[NF68]

Quote: mark1

Here urine in the head will strike that it is time to prepare for war (naturally under the new leadership) and everything will radically change in a very short time period. You should not relax and flatter yourself.

I noticed 5-6 years ago about numerous shortcomings in the Bundeswehr in the German media. If serious enough German print media and television channels reported this, then apparently the Bundeswehr’s affairs were already more than sad. Since then, little has changed. There are still not enough tech specialists. Additional funds for the purchase of new equipment began to be allocated only from the end of the 2017 year. Currently, a decision has been made to increase the budget of the Bundeswehr. But it’s unlikely to be possible to quickly restore what has been declining for many years under the current Minister of Defense. You see, she is more worried about creating uniforms for pregnant women from among military personnel than a fundamental change in the approach to ensuring the combat readiness of the Bundeswehr. It was impossible to choose the best defense minister between the German Minister of Defense-gynecologist and the German military in recent years there have been too many disagreements and, in my opinion, these military men can be understood, not the German Minister of Defense is engaged in what she really needs to do she has never been properly asked for all these shortcomings. This is not to say that she was called to the carpet and made to properly fulfill the duties of the Minister of Defense.

[Yarhann]

It looks like the minister from the Bundeswehr made a scout camp and plays in the zarina - if someone found it, then I realized what I was talking about)))

[NF68]

Quote: Yarhann

It looks like the minister from the Bundeswehr made a scout camp and plays in the zarina - if someone found it, then I realized what I was talking about)))

She still didn’t understand that she was taking a look at the Minister of Defense of Germany, and not the Minister of Health. And it is not clear why none of the members of the German government or parliament convinced her to engage in her direct duties as Minister of Defense.

[Yarhann]

effective managers of a wide profile, they are everywhere now - such is the reality, alas.

[Okolotochny]

And the levels of economies, social programs for the population are also not related to industry and the military-industrial complex? Are you an economist by education?

[Mavrikiy]

As a result, for the first time in German practice, the ship was returned to the manufacturer.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Quote: Eragon

I read it. Somehow, I immediately remembered the screams of all the protesters, about the bad (precisely censorship does not allow to quote) Sukhoi planes

From the fact that in Germany it has become very bad with military shipbuilding, we are not getting any better. These are not related things.

Controversial statement. We can talk about a general decline in culture and quality, "on a global scale" (Chapaev)
In fairness, it is worth noting that everyone had remodels with a roll and excess weight, so this is far from the first time.

[Simple]

Effective management, playing at monopoly, "optimization" of production - this is now an international trend.

The competition still saves (although it is also a double-edged sword), the Gost and the standards returned the ship, otherwise it would have fallen in Germany, it was burning and sinking.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Eragon

in Germany, too, "everything is gone" and the German industry is in complete ass? Vsepalschiki, answer if you can.

Naturally. Full of any Turks there. Grundig, for example, it now belongs to them, Telefunken is being produced by a Turkish company.

[Vadim02rus]

And five years ago, a friend came and said that the Turks were not allowed to get close to serious things there. Although even in German cinema there were entirely Turks, and even leaked to football)
On the other hand, I went to the Turkish Merc for several years, I have no complaints. And they do quality parts.

[Stas157]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Telefunken is released at a Turkish company.

The quality of the current Telefunken, like a golem China. The same can be said about some once really cool brands. For example, Nokia, Toshiba, Sharp ... Under their names, the Chinese are pushing their consumer goods.

[Marat79]

Sukhoi's "bad aircraft" have the same accident rate as "good" Boeings. This is the trick. Moreover, the dry plane is made of "good" American units and systems. But he is still "bad" because the echo of matzo wants so much

[smart ass]

BMW, Volkswagen, Opel are now also defective ships, but the German is not the same

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Clever man

BMW, Volkswagen, Opel

But is there a German at these plants? African is cheaper ...

[Karabas]

This is not a bug, this is a feature. The enemy will think that he is drowning and will not shoot.

[vkl.47]

Gaster collect. Here and the result. We also collect Renault in Moscow. Some Indians. And they do not care about the quality. I worked there myself. I saw an unacceptable clearance of 1 mm in the trunk and he smiles with a hammer on the hinges. digest.

[Karabas]

Gaster collect. Here and the result.

Apparently during the Second World War, tigers also riveted Gaster to them.

[Phil77]

No, of course I’m for criticism, but? And, what’s wrong with * tigers *? A very serious and terrible machine of destruction. surprise. The Germans always had good ships (they knew how to design and build), and suddenly substandard! A single case? Or deviation into the system?

[Karabas]

No, of course I’m for criticism, but? And, what’s wrong with * tigers *? A very serious and terrible machine of destruction. surprise. The Germans always had good ships (they knew how to design and build), and suddenly substandard! A single case? Or deviation into the system?

Read about tigers. How did they fight?

[Phil77]

I read that it was a great car. Like * Messer *. You yourself think how much he has been in the series since the mid-thirties. Yes, modifications, but nonetheless. Yes, and the tiger was a very serious opponent for our guys.

[Karabas]

I read that it was a great car. Like * Messer *. You yourself think how much he has been in the series since the mid-thirties. Yes, modifications, but nonetheless. Yes, and the tiger was a very serious opponent for our guys.

They read poorly. Read it again.

[Phil77]

Ndaaa! Vesomo.and you will not argue. Lada, I’ll go to learn the materiel. You have an argument just like the famous test tube at a meeting of the UN Security Council.

[Karabas]

Lada, I'm going to learn the materiel.

Successes. Read a lot.

[Marat79]

Germany has slid heavily in production culture.
As for the tigers - the car was dangerous, but low quality, unreliable and unrepairable. In addition, the inside was very lousy because of the engine located there, which was red-hot from work.

[Phil77]

Marat! Sorry, but this car had more advantages than disadvantages. Extremely dangerous * cat *!

[Marat79]

You are just a fan. The advantages were there in terms of armor and the gun was powerful. And technically, the car turned out to be so softer ... less technological than the t34-85. High-tech does not mean complicated, but high-tech. The tiger ate 4 times more fuel than the same 34. Accordingly, the power reserve, etc. And I will break it, he will repeat very well and thoroughly. But a fan of German tanks is useless to rub.

[Phil77]

Quote: Marat79

You are just a fan. The advantages were there in terms of armor and the gun was powerful. And technically, the car turned out to be so softer ... less technological than the t34-85. High-tech does not mean complicated, but high-tech. The tiger ate 4 times more fuel than the same 34. Accordingly, the power reserve, etc. And I will break it, he will repeat very well and thoroughly. But a fan of German tanks is useless to rub.

T34-85 year of manufacture 1944.Tigra-1942.

[Phil77]

Well, I’m not a fan! But how many thirty-fours went to destroy one beast (tiger, panther)?

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Tiger is a formidable car, only if not in repair!

[Phil77]

Uncle Van! In the repair, all the cars seem frivolous and sick, but afterwards !!!! Well, it’s not without reason that in 42 our very good part even had to think about how to fight with such a beast. We thought up what honor and glory were. cars.

[Marat79]

He had NO merits other than thick armor and weapons. "Smart" Germans invented the iron turtle. "Stupid" Russians - maneuverable tank combat and other "stupid tactics". And the 85ka further perforated these tigers with a bang. I am silent about self-propelled guns. You will get a high-explosive can on a tiger, no armor saved

[Phil77]

For a tank is not enough? For a heavy tank?

[Marat79]

It is extremely small if "dignity" becomes a vulnerability. Considering the low speed of the turret traverse and the clumsiness in general is nonsense. During the war, the tiger quickly became an easy target for shooting.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

So I say that a formidable car, that's just raw and not technological (expensive and time-consuming to manufacture, why they were built little), and this also affected its combat effectiveness, and the main headache of our tankers was still not tigers but panthers of which there were much more!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Phil77

or bias into the system?

The Germans built a yacht for Abramovich. Eclipse. Moreover, she built the Blohm & Voss shipyard, which is part of the group of companies that built this frigate. At first, Abramovich was dissatisfied with either the level of noise in the bedroom, or with vibration, rejected in short, the Germans were remaking him something there. So, rather a bias in the system.

[Phil77]

Volodya, hello to you !!! There is still a difference between a warship (with a capital letter) and a rich man (with an archimala) ?! Even if the yacht is comparable in length to * Titanic *!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Phil77

Volodya, hello to you !!! Anyway, there is a difference between a warship (with a capital letter) and a skorobogachem (with the archimal) ?!

The length of this frigate is 149,5 meters, the length of Abramovich's yacht is 162,5 meters. So Roman has a bigger size. And in terms of displacement - almost 2 times more (7,2 vs. 13 tons). And there and there on two helicopters. Well, at least Abramovich has no weapons (although who knows), but he has an 12-local submarine on board. Plus 4 boats and 20 scooters.

[Phil77]

Frets! About * Titanic * got excited! (269meters)

[Lantau]

Displacement 13 tons?)

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Lantau

Displacement 13 tons?)

13 thousand tons, I missed thousands. against 7,2 thousand frigate.

[5-9]

The most effective way to destroy a heavy tank battalion is to force it to make a 200 km march. After 100 km, a 3-day repair was required. Germans of the Tigers abandoned due to breakdowns or lack of fuel / BP lost more than on the battlefield.

[Phil77]

Again! Use issue!

[5-9]

Given the fact that the Tigrov’s heavy duty ship needs to be unloaded from the train for 3 days, you can’t keep up with the T-34 hordes without self-propelled marches ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Phil77

And what is wrong with * tigers *? A very serious and terrible machine of destruction.

destruction of what? resources? 40% destroyed by their own crews due to breakdowns. It is for this reason that I believe that the Tiger is the best tank in Germany. caused the most serious damage to German industry. Mouse is certainly better, but there were only 2 of them. what could be better than an enemy tank that did not reach the front line?

[Phil77]

Come on! Unfortunately the destruction of our grandfathers! I repeat, those who fought in the Great Patriotic War experienced hatred and respect at the same time! We defeated the insidious, but also powerful enemy.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Phil77

I repeat, those who fought in the Great Patriotic War experienced hatred and respect at the same time!

I repeat, this tank did Germany more harm than the Allied forces.
the fact that the life-giving promotion does I know. there are some who are even delighted with Mouse. well, armor is impenetrable, the gun is ultimatum, the soul is so overwhelmed with enthusiasm that the obvious fact that Mouse hasn’t reached the front has no place in his head.
so with the tiger. There are a lot of enthusiasms, the forums are crammed with Wittmann fans, but the fact that the tigers did not win a single major battle and almost half of these tanks were blown up by their own crews cannot be recalled. there are a lot of enthusiasm in the head and there is no longer any place for sound thoughts.

[Phil77]

Listen, but this is a matter of using heavy tanks, not the heaviest tank. The target shot of the tiger was (from memory) about 1,5 kilometers, is that bad? The T-34 crews had to do a lot of hard work so as not to fall under the gun .At the base * cats * were beaten by anti-tank guns. Regarding the repair and undermining of equipment by the crews, then again questions to the Wehrmacht command, and well, spanzdurdvizion.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Phil77

Listen! But this is a matter of using heavy tanks, not the heaviest tank.

to the point, my friend!
the fact of the matter is that you consider the Tiger as a "spherical horse in a vacuum". thick armor, powerful cannon ... I also like this tank, from an aesthetic point of view. but for real combat, he was completely unsuitable. a large mass, constant problems with the chassis, problems with evacuation, low traffic, lack of spare parts and poor maintainability, enormous gluttony of the engine, high cost and laboriousness in production. all this tightly kills all the advantages of the Tiger.
in 1941 the Germans captured many KV-1 tanks abandoned for similar reasons. did they draw conclusions? no thank god and the USSR did and took this into account when creating the IS-2 (IS-1 is still a checkpoint).

Quote: Phil77

And at the heart of * cats * were anti-tank guns.

great! you know that! just not the Tigers, but in general all the tanks. according to statistics, of all destroyed tanks, only 5% were destroyed by other tanks. in the first place it is the VET and mines are a little behind them. thus, the combat value of the Tiger becomes even lower.

Quote: Phil77

Regarding the repair and undermining of the equipment by the crews, then again questions to the Wehrmacht command, and well, spanzdurdvizion.

well, you know .. what do you think they do? a gearbox flew at the Tiger. there is nothing to evacuate. You can’t fix it in the field, to repair the gearbox you need to disassemble the floor of the tank, and the Russians are attacking the heels. what to do? leave the tank Russian? or can sit down and shoot back to the last? Whitman would not support your proposal Germans can still make a new Tiger, but the new Wittmann is much more complicated. such were the traditions of the Pservafe.
Americans came up with a very simple and effective way to deal with the Tigers. Upon learning of the arrival of the Tigers front on their site, the Americans began to launch attacks on sections of the front that were remote from each other. during the transfer of the Tigers from one breakthrough to another, the Germans suffered serious losses precisely in the process of moving equipment. cheap, convenient, safe

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: vkl.47

.in the trunk gap is an invalid 1 mm and he hammer on the hinges and smiles. and the technology must be digested.

Due to the gap in 1 mm. no one will digest anything. Too dreary. As we received a batch of defective hood ZIL 130. (middle 90-x). On one side between the hood and the cabin, the gap was millimeters 20. When the authorities carefully increased the holes on the brackets. In the absence of witnesses, the brackets were driven in deep into the cabin with several blows with a sledge hammer on the same 20 mm. Where as quickly turned out. And overcooking-repainting in a large penny will pour out.

[Vadim02rus]

Good car was. I skated a year at 555, I did not know grief.

[Jeremiah]

Where this world is heading. The hands and heads of the Germans begin to grow from there, and from everyone now ... And after all, this is not just a mistake in building one ship. This is a mistake in the design of the entire series ... Not everyone has risen to the level of the Germans, but lowered them to their ...

[cniza]

The United States managed to turn the Germans into a gray mass of consumers.

[Vadim02rus]

And not theirs alone. Hollywood rules.

[cniza]

Yes, you are right, and so many of our ...

[Cowbra]

The notorious German "quality" The trick is that before the First World War German industrial goods were treated like Chinese 20 years ago. Like a German and technology - these are two opposites, they do not know how to do technology. Got the old?

[Olezhek]

before the first world war, German industrial goods were treated like 20 years ago to Chinese

Is not a fact!
Related, but much earlier. By the beginning of the 20 century, Germany was beginning to actively push British goods from world markets.
And with the quality of everything is not bad.

[Cowbra]

Yes, fact, fact. China has now ousted South Korea with Japan, but you still hear - "ah, China ...". And the quality at the beginning of WWI had problems - remember the much thicker armor on ships, yeah, "Krupp steel". Thicker so that about the same indicators as the British. There was dumping, that's why they were ousted, and they had bad quality for a long time. You yourself, you know, how they screwed up with the Austrian security lock - all the equipment on the way got covered with nafig, and there were no fights, but if there were? Quality - comb straight!

[Marat79]

Chinese goods were quality before. When the Soviet guests did

[malyvalv]

and there were no fights, but if there would be? Quality - straight out!

Just because there were no fights. After 2 years, when the fighting began, they tore up the quality of British and French equipment to shreds.

[Errr]

Quote: Cowbra

The notorious German "quality" The trick is that before the First World War German industrial goods were treated like Chinese 20 years ago. Like a German and technology - these are two opposites, they do not know how to do technology. Got the old?

German and technology are, among other things, also Hütte's most famous technical guide. If you suddenly don’t know, then read about it at least on the Wiki:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Хютте

[Marat79]

Yeah. Only now they invented the sopromat in tsarist Russia, and absolutely Russians.

[Artemiy_2]

Well, where are the exclamations about the crooked Germans? If such a thing happened with us, then you yourself know what would happen

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Artemiy_2

Well, where are the exclamations about the crooked Germans? If such a thing happened with us, then you yourself know what would happen

Those. if this happened in our country, would the "exclamations" be inappropriate, because the Germans had this?
No, dear, exclamations - "designers for soap" would be quite appropriate. Do not be equal to the bad. We must be equal to the best that is created by human hands.

[donavi49]

And so it happened - there is the same Gren. He flunked the state - because he had to be pulled out by tug from the landing site. Demagnetization failed - due to improperly selected cross-section. Hence the years of completion, the rearrangement of engines on Morgunov, etc.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: donavi49

And so it happened - there is the same Gren.

You can remember another 22350 - more precisely, his "Polyment-Redoubt".

[New Year day]

already the Germans started filonit! Where is the world heading?

[cniza]

Everywhere there is a human factor ...

[cniza]

We need to pay less attention to where and where they were nafilon, and to eliminate our shortcomings, then it will be easier for us with any opponent ...

[Ural-4320]

Quote: Olezhek

Hmm, the transfer of arrows is not counted

And my father always told me that he did not care about other children, he had his own son. "Your friends will bang their heads against the wall, and will you go with them too?" How many years have passed, and it has fallen on the subcortex so that you cannot corrode it.
So, I agree with the statement that the rake in heavy engineering is up to me for the icon lamp - they do not intersect with ours. It's more fun for me that ours build ships quickly, efficiently and without "excess weight" (you can't put it on an exercise bike).

[seregin-s1]

Eight harpoons for 7 kilotons of displacement. This is cut comrades! Cruel cut!))

[APASUS]

Normally, the Germans calculated the weight distribution on the ship

[Marat79]

I had an Audi a6 German assembly. I liked very much. Brand new. Nice comfortable. Only he broke several times more often frets and more serious. Either electronics, then wiring, then engine. And this despite the fact that no one broke it and she rubbed it with a soft cloth under the lullaby.
I think here is the "German quality"

[Abracadabrus]

"Pay attention - made in Germany!" (c) From advertising. German quality!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

from the point of view of genicology (the Minister of Defense is a geneticist), this ship has only one significant drawback, the absence of a chair in the wheelhouse.
The rest are minor flaws.

[petrol cutter]

Do you gentlemen think our ships are not crooked and oblique? .. Bank 1,3 degrees ... This is nothing. Correct ballast.
We have deviations that you would better not know.