In Ukraine, the average scout ship was launched

The naval forces of Ukraine will soon receive a reconnaissance ship of domestic production. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, a solemn launching of the first middle reconnaissance ship took place at the Forge Shipyard in Kiev on Rybalsky.

According to the Ukrainian Defense Ministry, the reconnaissance ship was built for the needs of the Ukrainian Navy by order of the Ministry of Defense as part of the State Targeted Defense Program for the Development of Arms and Military Equipment for the period up to the 2020 year.

The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak, who was present at the launch ceremony, called the new ship "unmatched in Ukraine" and the "victory" of the Naval Forces of Ukraine, who receive this ship in service.

For all history There were not so many examples in Ukraine when powerful armored boats and amphibious boats were launched, and today - the average reconnaissance ship, which has no analogues in Ukraine - in terms of equipment and ability to perform tasks. This is a huge breakthrough and this is a victory!

- said the head of the Ukrainian defense ministry.

According to the "Ukrainian military portal," the reconnaissance ship is being built on the Forge on Rybalsky SSZ by rebuilding the 502EM EGET trawler, five ready hulls for which were built on the stocks of the plant in varying degrees of readiness.

Vessel displacement (full) according to the basic design 1220 tons, maximum length 54,8 m, width 9,8 m, depth of the board 5 m, speed-11,6 knots, cruising range over 7000 miles.

When the completion of the ship’s construction is completed, and what reconnaissance equipment will be installed on it, it is not reported.

Comments

[Gray brother]

There Saigadachny without a normal radar cries.

[A1845]

Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak called the new ship "unparalleled in Ukraine"

If there is an unfinished tugboat, it will already be "unparalleled in the world"
and "on new physical principles"

[donavi49]

In general, he announced the beginning of the construction of a missile boat there by the way.
To begin production of a missile boat, which we really need and on which the Neptune anti-ship systems will be delivered, ”the head of the defense department emphasized.

This is the one for which they did not give money. It can be seen that the chef is now selling money before leaving for his factory.

[Gray brother]

Quote: donavi49

In general, he announced the beginning of the construction of a missile boat there by the way.

And even there they all threatened to build corvettes.

[hydrox]

No, but if you really want to, then let them build it: someone has to supply the Black Sea Fleet "for growth targets ...

[Squelcher]

The question is, where on the model of the PU boat to launch missiles?

[Errr]

Look at the picture at:
https://topwar.ru/131213-novyy-kater-lan-stanet-osnovoy-udarnogo-potenciala-vms-ukrainy-zayavil-komanduyuschiy.html

[donavi49]

This is an old model - not yet decommunized , I put a new one.

[Errr]

Was the "non-communized" version with the Uranus complex with 8 (2x4) X-35? Do the Vietnamese have 4 "Lani" out of 7 with "Uranus"?

[donavi49]

Here. 2X2

That's about it - architecturally.

[Errr]

And why did they halve the number of launchers?

[Kuroneko]

Have you noticed that the Minister (!) Of Defense of Ukraine used the preposition "on", not "in"? ^ _ ^

"unparalleled on Ukraine "

How did you not clean such a vatan-zradnik with a filthy broom from the office? Someone there clearly overlooked.

[Squelcher]

Thank you, interesting to reach the combat capabilities of the project 1234?

[self-propelled]

Quote: A1845

If there is an unfinished tugboat, it will already be "unparalleled in the world"
and "on new physical principles"

Well, let's say, even the USSR did not disdain the possibility of building ships for the Navy on the basis of civilian ships (the development of an anti-submarine helicopter carrier pr. 10200 "Khalzan" on the basis of civil pr. 1609 was carried out in the 70s of the last century). a ship larger than a fishing trawler would be

[Normal ok]

Quote: A1845

Ukrainian Defense Minister Stepan Poltorak called the new ship "unparalleled in Ukraine"

If there is an unfinished tugboat, it will already be "unparalleled in the world"
and "on new physical principles"

Do not encroach on something sacred that has no analogue in the world - purely Russian know-how. Poltorak said "in Ukraine".

[hydrox]

Quote: Gray Brother

There Saigadachny without a normal radar cries.

Let them cry!
But by the next year, one more katerushka will be ready, ready for the assault on the Kerch bridge.

[VohaAhov]

Oh, good! Ukrainian sailors can now catch fish and listen to the radio! :))

[Kuroneko]

And fill in motorboats assigned to the vessel for passing bulk carriers in the style of Somali pirates. Already in full swing training. Just a trawler hold will be something to score (if fishing is not lucky).

[Gray brother]

Quote: Polite Elk

There is no production of naval weapons.

Do not tell me, on the nose you see something similar to the Maidan catapult.

[hydrox]

No, well, but how is it possible to walk near Muscovites and not even have slingshots for self-defense?

[donavi49]

861M - or something else? And a big series. And now he regularly goes to the BS. The estuary (which drowned from the collision) is from there.

[Marconi41]

Quote: donavi49

861M - or something else? And a big series. And now he regularly goes to the BS. The estuary (which drowned from the collision) is from there.

All right. Case SRTM-K is also almost a fisherman. And in the USSR they did not bother about this and did scouts in the hulls of fishing vessels. Our border guards have patrol vessels based on the STR (Medium Trawler Refrigerator) and nothing, they go and drive the brakus. Saving and stealth. Nothing new.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Marconi41

Nothing new.

How is this nothing new? What about "unparalleled" and "greatest breakthrough"? Taking into account for Ukraine, of course. Interestingly, after the division of the Black Sea Fleet, Ukraine did not get the reconnaissance ships, what are they making a sensation out of this now? And judging by the photographs, there are five officials on duty on the presidium, which I understand as a sensation.

[Fayter]

According to the rules of the spelling of the Russian language: the name of the country is Ukraine, capitalized, do not be like our stubborn and wretched Natsik.

[orionvitt]

Firstly, I speak Russian perfectly, from birth. Secondly, what Ukraine is, I know very well, not by hearsay. To write with a capital letter, one must earn it, so there is a lot of honor. Credit for tolerance, but + I will not put.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: Marconi41

Nothing new.

And very much ...

is being built by altering the trawler of project 502EM "Eget", five finished hulls for the construction of which were on the stocks of the plant in varying degrees of readiness.

I don’t know from what time these hulls were on the stocks, but judging by the hull lines and the project as a whole, "this hare is already 300 years old."
Each extra year spent in the open air leads to accelerated corrosion of case steel, and, as a result, to a deterioration in strength properties and contributes to structural deformation, as well as premature through corrosion of welds.

[donavi49]

Well - there is a resource over the body for the eyes. This is a trawler, not a speedboat. The loads are different.

And for standing 25 years in the open, they look quite normal. Yet Kiev, this is not Severodvinsk. Here is the next MRSK - if they find money, well, or they’ll figure out how to use the building. No one needs trawlers, especially since such a design.

[stalkerwalker]

Quote: donavi49

Well - there is a resource over the body for the eyes. This is a trawler, not a speedboat. The loads are different.

In the pictures, it is always all beautiful ...
Problems begin with the decay of metal that has not been treated in time with a rust converter, primer and paint. As an example, cars - they are practically not exposed to the aggressive effects of sea water, they are washed, cared for and nourished, covering them with protective mastic, film and even "liquid glass". But he decays very successfully.
Seagoing vessels launched after several years of downtime on the berths quickly lose the water resistance of the hull; a gradual accumulation of water begins in compartments and cofferdams both below the waterline and above it.
This is not critical during the first couple of years of operation. But then the number of small problems turns into quality. And then the ship is driven into the dock, where, after checking for the thickness of the ship's hull structures, it turns out that the "client" is two steps away from the "heart attack".

[Kaw]

Modern electronics is compact. They brought a couple of suitcases / laptops, laid them out on a table, attached antennas to the masts, and here’s your reconnaissance ship. Of course, Western friends set the electronics, in their interests (most likely) this ship will work and will.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Kaw

in their interests (most likely) this ship will work and will.

1) They have their own.
2) Do they use such ships where land-based intelligence systems do not get it, but on the Black Sea they get it everywhere, where will they use it? The scale is not the same.
I think that the DShK is stuck on it and they will proudly call this ship a guard ship.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Gray Brother

I think that the DShK is stuck on it and they will proudly call this ship a guard ship.

This is probably the most affordable way to turn a trawler into a Boyovy Choven. But the moment of launching was not chosen well. Poroshenko does not need this "dreadnought" anymore, because the ball is over, and Zelensky is still too early to be able to ascribe to himself.

[Kaw]

Probably sent to the Sea of ​​Azov. One more time they’ll arrange a provocation under the bridge. )
Or they will float around our bases in Crimea. In case of trouble, they will be drowned first. Americans of Ukrainian sailors do not mind, unlike their own.

[IL-2]

What is your romantic idea of ​​modern radio intelligence))) Tell us about compact electronics to partners in NATO)) In the photo, the American reconnaissance ship Howard O. Lorenzen.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Why is there yellow-blocking strip on the pipe? :-)

[Rurikovich]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Why is there yellow-blocking strip on the pipe? :-)

Disguises Pid partners

[bang bang]

Andrei "chew-blakitkniy! .... called it-homohepatitis .....

[bang bang]

for which he flew from the site

[Kaw]

So then not NATO. Everything is cheap and cheerful here.

[Igor Borisov_2]

The reconnaissance ship is being built by alteration of the trawler of project 502EM "Eget"

Remodeling and building is not the same thing ... We had these alterations about trawlers before whalers were above the roof ....

[donavi49]

The steamer is just a platform. It can be unique or mobilization / from the backlog of trawlers, hydrographs, small cargo ships. The main thing is the filling. That is, complexes for removing information. Few options:
- help from friends. Then it will be a really tough unit, which will graze in the neutral and remove a lot of information. How is this happening in the Baltic and North.
- walk around the landfills. Disassemble the rust with Pereyaslov. Paste over this blue one, well, that is, euro-stick and fasten to the ship. Then it will be a practical useless steamer, for parades and PR.

[Rurikovich]

Quote: donavi49

The steamer is just a platform. It can be unique or mobilization / from the backlog of trawlers, hydrographs, small cargo ships. The main thing is the filling

The container is just a platform The filling may be different So any container ship becomes a potential threat

[K-50]

Cruising range over 7000 miles.

It is interesting that they want to scout with such a range.
Is it possible to plow open spaces of the Bolshoi Theater (fie) of the World Ocean?

[Bshkaus]

We adopted Vilha - we laugh.
We experienced Thunder-2, we laugh.
Arranged launches of anti-ship missiles "Neptune" - we laugh back.
Established the production of 100mm shells, laugh again.
The troops in the anti-terrorist operation zone ATGM "Stugna" were overrun - and we all laugh.
We bought UAVs from Turkey, that no one stopped laughing from the previous time.
They are considering the option of assembling Chinese combat training aircraft, do not believe it, we laugh again.
Here is the largest ship in 17 years launched into the water, laugh again ...
Wait six months, they will also buy German-French combat helicopters, you see, huge losses will go from the "aggressor", from the ruptured stomach caused by laughter.
Isn’t you tired of laughing, or doesn’t anyone understand anything?

[Kurare]

Quote: Bshkaus

Isn’t you tired of laughing, or doesn’t anyone understand anything?

For example, I laugh at the tremendous pathos with which the same Poltorak shouts "peremog". Ukraine got so many weapons from the USSR that no one laughed. And now...
Of course, you’re right somewhere, you really shouldn’t underestimate the APU. And where they are moving is not funny.

[revnagan]

Quote: Kurare

For example, I laugh at the tremendous pathos with which the same Poltorak shouts "peremog".

And what should he shout, in your opinion? Glory to the CPSU? It is necessary to raise self-esteem somehow. In addition, all those present here remember how the Russian fleet began.

[Kurare]

Quote: revnagan

And what should he, in your opinion, scream? Glory to the CPSU?

Is it really necessary to scream?

Quote: revnagan

It’s necessary to raise self-esteem somehow.

Well yes. The general who said: "The Russians came from the north-south direction", he definitely needs to raise his self-esteem.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Bshkaus

We adopted Vilha

I didn’t hear that they accepted - they showed me at the current parade. Production was supposed to start last year - how many complexes were produced?

Arranged launches of anti-ship missiles "Neptune"

This is not RCC, when it gets somewhere, then you can call it that. While she flew along the route maximum.

Quote: Bshkaus

Established the production of 100mm shells,

They can now charge them into their dupes, because they don’t have such cannons.

Quote: Bshkaus

The troops in the anti-terrorist operation zone ATGM "Stugna"

They produced ATGMs before that. It would be strange if they did not release them.

Quote: Bshkaus

We bought UAVs from Turkey,

Well done, what.

Quote: Bshkaus

Tested Thunder-2,

Layout experienced galleries? Their engines exploded great - I remember.

Quote: Bshkaus

Here is the largest ship in 17 years launched into the water, laugh again ...

This is really funny.

Quote: Bshkaus

you look at the "aggressor" huge losses will go, from the rupture of the abdomen caused by laughter.

Well, if only from this. Here you are right.

[Well done]

I agree. Do not underestimate the enemy. There, the Americans podshamanil, threw ideas / resources, and in intelligence they know a lot.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Bshkaus

Isn’t you tired of laughing, or doesn’t anyone understand anything?

More than 70% of the big people on the territory of Ukraine voted for Zelensky, mind you - not for Petsu, not for Yulia, not for the Natsiks, but for Zelensky. This is equivalent to "Against all". Those. the overwhelming majority of the Ukrainian people are tired of the confrontation with Russia and the fairy tales about the light of the day at Europe. Another couple of million Zrobitchans hang around here and observe the picture of "Russian aggression" with their own eyes. Do you seriously think that they will go to war with us? Or will a missile be launched on our territory?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

If, the overwhelming majority, citizens of Ukraine want a resumption of relations with Russia, then why does the Boyko candidate have less than 10 percent of the vote? ..
Elementary statistics.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

why does candidate Boyko have less than 10 percent of the vote?

Voter confidence. Slogans and campaign promises are not a 100% election victory.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,, Voter Confidence ,,
Not convinced, sorry. There is no logic.
If out of the total number of candidates only one Boyko openly declared the need to restore relations with Russia, then will we trust or mistrust here? .. Somehow we don’t suck logically ... :-)

[Polite Moose]

Okay. Take, for example, our D.A. Medvedev. He says very correct and smart things, tries to do something there, struggles with something there, takes measures there. And ask, so as not to go far, even if the people here are in VO - and does anyone want to see him in 2024 as president or further on as prime minister? And Sobchachka at one time was against everything bad and for everything good, and Grudinin, and the main opposition - Navalny. The slogans were beautiful and correct they had a sea, but there was no confidence. Here is the logic.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,, this is the logic ,,
Now, got it. Thank. I somehow did not think about it.
But in any case, the position of prime minister should be an official-business executive. The official is tough and demanding.
With all due respect to our Ladies, this position is not for him. Clever, obazovannoe man. But too soft to the ministers. Head of cedars, dean, rector of a large university - this is his place. And any university would dream of getting such an employee. But ... not prime ..

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

But in any case, the position of prime minister should be an official-business executive.

Absolutely right. And at the post of head of state - the Person. With a capital letter. And not ... with populist slogans.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,, Person. With a capital letter ,,
I do not argue. But I want to remind you that the previous person was not sober, practically. And she couldn’t get out of the plane, for the same reason.
This one, though, does not drink .. and all right ... :-)

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

the previous, personality, soberly, was not. And I couldn’t get out of the plane, for the same reason

The person you mean replaced the even more disgusting person, and at one time famously danced on the armor of the tank against the background of the shot house of the government and gave people hope for a change for the better. But all hopes drowned in a glass. Remember, remember.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

,,, All hopes drowned in a glass ,,
Imagine this picture: you or I are on the armor of a tank and with some kind of paper .. The most real reaction is that a psychiatrist would come for us.
In a similar situation - EBN- was elected head of state.
Who is to blame and who chose? .. people ... That's the whole truth of life :-)

[Well done]

This is not the point. The State Department launched this ship. Remember the adage about a stick that shoots once every hundred years? Natsik + instructors from NATO, other well-wishers, will find application for "stick". I doubt that this is generally the "brainchild" of the Kulibins from the Square.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Polite Elk

Those. the overwhelming majority of the Ukrainian people are fed up with the confrontation with Russia and the tales about European Maybutn’s.

"Confronation with Russia" / the war in the Donbass - least of all occupy the minds of Ukrainians. Much more important is the rate of economic growth / inflation.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Normal ok

"Confronation with Russia" / the war in the Donbass - least of all occupy the minds of Ukrainians. Much more important is the rate of economic growth / inflation.

I completely agree. And I believe that even the most persistent horses understand that the reasons for the recession in the economy and rising inflation lie precisely in the confrontation with Russia and the war in the Donbass.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Bshkaus

or nobody understands anything?

All. All. Understand. And so they laugh. Cry or what?

Quote: Bshkaus

they are also German-French combat helicopters will purchase,

The last word turns this statement into glum. Admit: you are also funny. Or do you not understand anything?

[Antares]

Quote: Bshkaus

Isn’t you tired of laughing, or doesn’t anyone understand anything?

Some kind of HPP (Poroshenko’s cunning plan / or someone else’s)
Hatred and inflating superiority in the RPE. It passed quickly when 7 ships went down immediately, but then it was too late.

[Nastia makarova]

What is there to understand? This is a circus and only, all in the singular

[sergo1914]

Damn ... is it even possible? And with our Navy a ride?

[donavi49]

So it rolled all the time. The same Petruha, the Wise, Chabanenko. Only the resource has ended - more or less suitable ships in the reserve. For example, in Feodosia there are 2 small anti-submarine ships, pr.11451. They are in excellent condition, but nothing good can be done from them. The Navy abandoned the ships of this project. Upgrading to something new is expensive. Therefore cut.

[RABIT102]

And what is Rogozin doing on the first photo? Thinks how to cut it better?)

[donavi49]

He watches the assault boats in the foreground .

[petrol cutter]

Yes, it's "Falcon"!
Information is out of date. I cut the aft wing personally. And before that, our team put it. No more of these ships. And the pontoon too. Everything is cut to please 22800.
Ironically, they hung too.
"Falcon" takes revenge, however. And the ship took revenge on me. I broke my leg there. For forty years I have not broken anything, but here it is on you. Out of the blue ...

[seregin-s1]

Ukrainian Navy received a reconnaissance ship. This is the news in Ukraine.))
But I would put a trawl on it. And catch the fish, and raise it from the bottom.))

[Piramidon]

which has no analogues in Ukraine

Well, of course. Among Trump's inflatable gifts, he has no analogues.

[vladcub]

Shipyard "Leninskaya Kuznya" is more correct. As I remember, the property of Petrushka.
"What kind of reconnaissance equipment will be installed on it is not reported," and this is the most essential. You can put the most modern equipment even on a scow, but this is the case: no one will suspect. And you can build the most luxurious ship, but without the appropriate equipment - a pile of metal.
As I remember, there were enterprises in Ukraine that produced excellent radio equipment. These factories are still bm, but they "breathe". It all comes down to adequate funding

[Chs4t]

As I remember, there were enterprises in Ukraine that produced excellent radio equipment. These factories are still bm, but they "breathe". It all comes down to adequate funding

funding is there, they have taken a special tax on military fees since 2014 from all people.
And if they themselves cannot equip what they need, then the Americans will help, the printing press does not know respite from these comrades, they can only annoy Russia with joy, and it’s not money for the USA.

[The leader of the Redskins]

No longer Peking ...
In general, again, news deserves attention. Packed by his "sworn friends" with the latest technology. They will work for ...

[kefan]

That’s it, tremble tepericha achressor in the Black Sea.

[Kerensky]

"It seems to me gentlemen, it was a comedy .." (C) k \ f. "The man from Boulevard des Capucines."
They will shove it like a trawler ... hmm! To Cuba .. Ukraine’s Defense Ministry will pay, but will not accept ....

[TermNachTer]

Parashenko continues to raid the budget of the Ministry of Defense - there is only a month left - we must hurry. I wonder where this "unparalleled float"? Where will he conduct reconnaissance?

[next322]

Quote: TermNachTER

I wonder where this "unparalleled float"? Where will he be

BLACK AND AZOV SEA ....... and this is quite enough

[TermNachTer]

For this, the capabilities of the RTR coastal stations are more than enough.

[knn54]

It’s interesting how much Poltorak and Poroshenko were in their pocket — the distance to which nothing was left from Kiev — did they put?
But the MAJOR is now the number of ships is "rapidly" approaching the number of admirals ...

[O. Bender]

Quote: VohaAhov

Oh, good! Ukrainian sailors can now catch fish and listen to the radio! :))

What for!

[Berkut24]

The trawler will be armed with binoculars, an observation log and a radio station. Actually, the scout ship should be the ears and eyes of the fleet. It immediately turns out that there is no "body", but the organs of smell and touch are trying to do it. I want to draw your attention to the fact that the ship. as befits a trawler or "truck", large draft and low side in front of the control room. Of course, I am not an expert, but in my opinion, not a good idea. And what warships will be made from the remaining trawlers?

[Prisoner]

"The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak, present at the launching ceremony, called the new ship" unparalleled in Ukraine "..." Vlip Poltarashka! For this, "NA" himself will be sent on reconnaissance, if they have time.

[APASUS]

We were able to remodel the hull of the trawler for reconnaissance needs, what else to expect. The question is more about the stuffing, does Ukraine have such a production of specific equipment?

[Maalkavianin]

Well done. Though with pathos, songs and dances, they did military intelligence. ship. He will walk past our shores and carry out his tasks, passing information to NATO. And we will laugh as always - after all, the ship was not made according to a special project, for 10 years they didn’t jump with a tambourine around it, they did not carry it to exhibitions, but made it in the trawler’s hull, but this does not count.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Malkavianin

He will walk past our shores and carry out his tasks, passing information to NATO.

Until the "cattle truck" swoops down ...

[Panting]

Japan mom! These are the achievements of the beginning of the last century !!!

[RABIT102]

Well, yeah ... remaking a fishing trawler into a “military scout” is of course a breakthrough, face-to-face, there is no blame ... I think there are no analogues in the outskirts, but in the whole universe. And this is when it was once a powerful shipbuilding industry.

[Normal ok]

Quote: RABIT102

I think there are no analogues in the outskirts, but in the whole universe. And this is with the once most powerful shipbuilding industry.

If you were a little more educated, you would know that in the USSR the construction of reconnaissance ships based on fishing vessels was the norm.

[Lara Croft]

and what intelligence equipment will be installed on it is not reported

.... the equipment will of course be "enemy", and the British and Americans will sit behind the equipment ....

[Jeremiah]

On Petrukhina's "Kuzna", probably this rebuilding of the trawler into a floating tripod for binoculars (I don't know more powerful reconnaissance equipment in modern Ukraine), unless the Yankees do something serious, cost the price of a medium-sized cruiser equipped with the latest technology.

[NF68]

Will this scoop look for where it is better to surrender to Ukrainian sailors, where is the grub better?

[Samaks]

When the delay in Turkish Auchan will be thrown out, followed by the landing on the armored plates.

[pavels52]

Interesting Bionfish)) ...

[petrol cutter]

"The reconnaissance ship is being built by altering the trawler of project 502EM Eget, five finished hulls for the construction of which were on the stocks of the plant in varying degrees of readiness."
This was what we had to start with. And then, I immediately began to wonder.

[LeonidL]

"an average reconnaissance ship, which has no analogues in Ukraine - in terms of equipment and capabilities to carry out missions." ... Where do they come from, analogs? The fact that on the same day Russia sent for sea trials the latest frigate and corvette, the Poseidon submarine carrier, laid down two large landing ships, gives a special piquancy to the message. Yes, there is no real analogue of a reconnaissance reconnaissance trawler from an unfinished trawler, and this is a great peremog!

[igog]

aaaaaa !!!! SQUARE! we all, without exception, will pinpoint this worn-out CPTM project of the 1940s, although for Ukrainians a bicycle with wheels is a breakthrough.

[tolmachiev51]

- "This is a huge breakthrough and this is a victory!" - over whom or over what ??? flawed.

[sgr291158]

Oh, I would not sink.

[Evil 55]

Is the ship-SCAN-CHIH exactly ... It looks more like a seiner with side trawling and sawn trawl winches ..

[Julius Caesar]

And you can also take a river boat and remake it into an unmatched landing ship ...

[Archivist Vasya]

What nafig scout ... - Pirate Flagship !!!

[Orkraider]

There are no most funny pictures))))

[Samaks]

It would be better if 5 trawlers were completed. And there’s no fish and profit ...