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In the clubs of a poisonous nightmare. Gas cloud atrocities

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In previous articles of the cycle we focused on the documentary details of some of the German gas attacks against Russian military units (In the clubs of a poisonous nightmare. "Gases went to our trenches like thick fog" ;In the clubs of a poisonous nightmare. "Poisoning with gas released by the Germans caused severe vomiting ..."). But the enemy conducted gas attacks not only against military units, but also against the wounded.


Gas shocks to sanitary facilities


So, in June 1915 of the year, in Galicia, the dressing station of the 312 Infantry Vasilkovsky Regiment in the village of Latkina was shelled by enemy artillery located at an 1,5 kilometer distance from it (the dressing station was fenced with Red Cross flags, which were visible from the enemy observation post). The nearest Russian military units occupied positions at a distance of about a kilometer from the point located away from the battle line. During this bombardment, enemy shells were fired with choking gases; Many of the wounded at the checkpoint were killed or received new injuries.

16 January 1917, the Office of the Chief of the Russian Red Cross Society reported to the Office of the Head Office of the Russian Red Cross Society: “On the night from 15 to 16 in November 1916, the enemy made a gas attack on the front areas where Kursk dressing and nutrition squad were stationed 8 (Golynka village) and Velikolutsky mobile infirmary (traveling Khvoevo) of the Russian Red Cross Society. Three waves of suffocating gases were fired, the actions of which affected the following Kursk detachment employees: Evgenia Markov's sister of mercy until complete loss of consciousness and with the consequences of headache and nausea, Boris Konstantin Pavlov, the senior doctor of the detachment, Pavel Petrovich Kubanov, medical student of the detachment of the detachment Maria Alekseevna Evglevskaya and the orderlies of the detachment: Vasily Gorokhov, Dmitry Vasilyevich Morozov and Savely Isaevich Ignatiev.

How severe the damage could be from the use of a chemical weapons, shows the case of the ordinary 328 Infantry Regiment, 11 June 1915 in Bukovina, on the bank of the r. Dniester exposed to asphyxiating gases. A.V. Brzhostovsky lost both eyes - and the expert doctor came to the conclusion that the eyeballs flowed out under the influence of chemical weapons.

Atrocities in poisoned trenches


Finally, even more terrible things were happening inside the gas cloud.



The German infantry who attacked in gas masks and tried to exploit the results of gas attacks, was equipped with special clubs with large knobs - the latter, in order to finish off the poisoned Russian soldiers, were stuck with sharp spikes or nails. But standard weapons, in order to finish off poisoned Russian soldiers, turned out to be more than enough - bayonets, butts, knives were used.

So, working with the Military Journal of the 1 Astrakhan Cossack Regiment, we noted the following significant fact. The Astrakhan Cossacks, together with the soldiers of the 50 Infantry Division, restored their position on the front of the 21 Siberian Rifle Regiment that sustained the German gas strike at Sukh - Volya Shidlovskaya on 24 on June 1915. And many of the poisoned officers, who did not want to be captured in a helpless state, were shot.


German baton, studded with nails and spikes


Another document also testified that when on the night of 24. 06. 1915, the enemy conducted a gas attack and some Russian units left advanced trenches, in the last few dozens of seriously poisoned fighters remained. When the temporarily abandoned trenches reoccupied the Russian units, it turned out that the German soldiers killed all the poisoned ones - some of whom had been harassed before.

The corpses of the latter had ripped bellies, broken skulls, numerous bayonet wounds. The act was drawn up by Lt. Col. 22 of the Siberian Rifle Regiment Astafiyev and signed by eyewitnesses. According to the document, among the mutilated corpses were found those with whom the Germans in different parts of the body (including the eyes) drove in Russian cartridges. The corpse of one soldier had bare buttocks, and a bayonet was stuck in the anus. 20 corpses had ripped stomachs, and 1 corpse had a severed head. The corpse of Captain Gorlenko has skinned skin from his left hand - with a belt length 15 centimeters and width 2 centimeters.

And in another episode, the eyes of the Russian intelligence officers, sent to ascertain the situation after the gas attack of the Germans, opened the following amazing picture, seen by them in a trench previously occupied by Siberian shooters.

Ensign N. Egorov found several corpses of Russian soldiers in a trench. They had fractured skulls, stabbed wounds in the abdomen, chest and neck. Many had ripped stomachs, and one had several rounds in the back. All the victims were turned out pockets, stolen shoes and things from hiking bags.

Junior non-commissioned officer P. Pirog saw one corpse with bullets in his eyes, and three corpses had bullets in his chest. The five dead men had their throats cut - apparently with a German bayonet. The pie found one arrow still conscious - and the last one said that the 20 man of German soldiers had come to the trench, mocking the wounded and then punishing the latter.

The shooter A. Kazarin reported a corpse with eyes gouged out with a bayonet, while the other corpse had its underwear and outerwear lowered, and the bayonet was inserted between the buttocks. Some corpses had their throats slit.

Junior non-commissioned officer M. Oreshkin saw hammered cartridges (in heels, back, legs), and junior non-commissioned officer G. Gazduchenko reported on several dead bodies with his eyes gouged out.

A. Kvyatkovsky, confirming the words of other intelligence officers, reported that one corpse had its stomach cut open and its entrails twisted.

In addition to the rank and file, 2 Ensign was tortured in that trench.

We see what kind of suffering was carried by weapons prohibited by international agreements - the weapon initiated by the Austro-German aggressor.
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In the clubs of a poisonous nightmare. "Gases went to our trenches like thick fog"
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 9 May 2019 06: 04
    +4
    We see what kind of suffering was carried by weapons prohibited by international agreements - the weapon initiated by the Austro-German aggressor.
    that is, "chemistry" is prohibited, and a bayonet in the ass, if you please? - we see how some human beings mocked others.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 9 May 2019 06: 14
      +8
      Quote: Aerodrome
      that is, "chemistry" is prohibited, and a bayonet in the ass, if you please?

      And someone else is teaching our Russian gymnasium students in Novy Urengoy about the allegedly innocently murdered German invaders!
      And it doesn’t even matter if it is about WWI or WWII!

      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 May 2019 08: 39
        +5
        "Civilized Europe" "" .... They are not people. We have a completely different attitude to the defeated enemy. It is understandable to kill, but such bullying .... And "this Kolya" .... All questions to those who it poured this unreasonable into the ears. By the way, this story calmed down. Or rather ordered not to inflate the noise. This affects the interests of those in power, the parents are not simple there.
        1. CTABEP
          CTABEP 9 May 2019 11: 38
          +2
          In a war, people tend to go wild, especially in the coming years, and with great bitterness. Therefore, cut off head-ears, and tied to armored personnel carriers (hi, Chechnya) or KAMAZ (hi, Donbass) prisoners burned alive in houses, and other things that seem like a hell of a normal person. Well, condemning the use of weapons or numerous wounds is stupid, the same clubs were used on both sides of the front, and they killed the wounded after the bayonets everywhere. Although this does not in the least justify the perpetrators of these atrocities, it should be understood that in war this, alas, is very common
          1. Adjutant
            Adjutant 9 May 2019 12: 01
            +9
            CTABEP (Michael)
            In war people tend to go wild

            it is definitely
            But ...
            Sense to erect a shadow on the wattle fence, once again fencing nemchuru? So write:
            and to blame for the use of weapons or numerous wounds is stupid, the same clubs were used on both sides of the front

            The question arises: will you provide documented examples of clubs with spikes that the Russian troops equipped to finish off the German wounded after chemical attacks?
            Very interesting. Look forward to
            1. CTABEP
              CTABEP 9 May 2019 12: 30
              -13
              There is a sense of casting a shadow on nemchur when war is on, so that soldiers kill Germans without unnecessary moral torment and post-traumatic disorders.

              I also do not see any documented examples of "special clubs for finishing off the wounded" - these are not special clubs for finishing off, but ordinary melee tools.

              Such as:

              Also, probably the French then talked about the terrible atrocities of the Russians, who killed the wounded with hammers in the head.

              Again, I see no point in looking for confirmation of the atrocities of one of the parties after over 100 years. The Germans have always differed in this (Belgium alone in 1914 is worth something, and then the soldiers had not yet become brutal from the years of war, wounds and killed friends), this must be taken as a fact, but not emotionally yelling about "Inhumans, Europe, we are completely different!"
              1. Adjutant
                Adjutant 9 May 2019 12: 52
                +14
                these are not special clubs for finishing

                The German infantry was equipped with these batons SPECIALLY before going into the gas-filled trenches. Whom did she expect to meet there besides poisoned people ?? It was not equipped before an ordinary battle, but before entering the gas-filled trenches.
                and sorry, where it is said that the club, studded with spikes, is introduced into the complex of infantry melee weapons?
                on my question:
                Can you provide documented examples of clubs with spikes, which were equipped with Russian troops to finish off the German wounded after chemical attacks?

                Okay with documented. Just bring it. Will you bring? No. Because they were not there.
                Instead, there are pictures of inventory and reasoning such as
                Too surely the French then talked about the terrible atrocities of the Russians, who killed the wounded with hammers in the head.
                only it probably can be.
                and on WWI there are stories of war veterans and docks.
                Following the cloud, German infantry began to advance in gas masks: in one hand, German soldiers held rifles, and in the other - clubs with large knobs, studded with sharp spikes - to finish off the poisoned.

                This is from the description of the gas attack on June 19, 1916. Yes, and many more examples.
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                    1. CTABEP
                      CTABEP 10 May 2019 03: 17
                      -6
                      - that club will be a great weapon against soldiers with rifles and bayonets ??? Yeah. This is the kindergarten of the senior group))
                      She is good, such a club, for finishing off half-dead people, and not for use in a bayonet battle.


                      You probably either have very little idea of ​​the specifics of the battle in the trench system or. Under the fallen visor you cannot figure out what is at stake. Arming whole parts with weapons is purely for killing the wounded after a gas attack (you even ignore the argument about gas masks), this is stupid. Carrying a kilogram of iron with you, which is not suitable in battle, but suitable only for finishing off with extreme cruelty (nothing prevents from finishing half-dead wounded with an attached bayonet), is nonsense for the army that has been fighting for many years.
                      1. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 10 May 2019 08: 25
                        +11
                        You probably or very poorly imagine the specifics of the battle in the trench system

                        Yes no worse than you
                        Arming whole parts with weapons is purely for killing the wounded after a gas attack (you even ignore the argument about gas masks), this is stupid. Carrying a kilogram of iron with you, which is not suitable in battle, but suitable only for finishing off with extreme cruelty (nothing prevents from finishing half-dead wounded with an attached bayonet), is nonsense for the army that has been fighting for many years.

                        treat as you like, but you:
                        a) ignore the fact that the German divisions only RECEIVED such clubs
                        b) what, the baton will be an excellent weapon against the soldiers who were made to repel a counterattack with rifles and bayonets?
                        You very vaguely imagine what was going on in the trench after the gas attack. Do you think they sat in it, and, panting, waited for no one knows what. Such a trench, as a rule, was left (especially with regard to the tactics of the allies), and over time, a counterattack (if possible) returned. And all that was left to do to the offensive was to finish off the poisoned, whom they did not manage to evacuate.
                        however, now after 100 years you can be exhausted in your thoughtful conclusions as you like. But this will not abolish the fact (documented) of the fact that such batons took place in the arsenal of the German infantry, which exploited the results of gas attacks
              2. naidas
                naidas 9 May 2019 16: 51
                -1
                And if so :
                On a large scale, chemical weapons were used by the Russian army in the summer of 1916 during the Brusilovsky breakthrough. 76-mm shells with strangulation agents (chloropicrin) and poisonous (phosgene, vensinite) action proved to be highly effective in suppressing the enemy’s artillery batteries. After the enemy, they succeeded in cavalry with military guns, or “wolves”. They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.
                Of course, the Germans are animals with batons, and ours with the holy whip with pieces of iron are saints.
                Author-We see what suffering the weapon prohibited by international agreements bore - the weapon initiated by the Austro-German aggressor.
                Wikipedia: The first to use them in August 1914 were the French: they were 26 mm grenades filled with tear gas (ethyl bromoacetate). But the allied stocks of ethyl bromoacetate quickly came to an end, and the French administration replaced it with another agent, chloroacetone. (The Germans used it only in October 1914)
                1. Adjutant
                  Adjutant 9 May 2019 17: 12
                  +9
                  And if so

                  Have you and I discussed above? )))
                  On a large scale, chemical weapons were used by the Russian army in the summer of 1916 during the Brusilovsky breakthrough.

                  What a discovery. At VO there was a series of articles about the reciprocal use of chemical weapons by the Russian army - Retaliation.
                  But the scale of course did not go to any comparison with the Austro-Germans.
                  And after the enemy they finished off the cavalry with battle whips, or "wolves". They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.

                  Oh really? It turns out our cavalry jumped right into the chemical cloud from the use of chemical weapons? Very cool. Will you throw links to solid works on WWI? Not inetshusharu, but the real works of specialists, with pages.
                  The first in August 1914, they were used by the French: they were 26 mm grenades filled with tear gas (ethyl bromoacetate). But the allied stocks of ethyl bromoacetate quickly came to an end, and the French administration replaced it with another agent, chloroacetone. (The Germans used it only in October 1914)

                  Sorry. Is tear gas really a chemical weapon? So chemical that civilians can buy it in a gun shop?)
                  1. naidas
                    naidas 9 May 2019 17: 26
                    -4
                    Quote: Adjutant
                    Have you and I discussed above? )))

                    With you not, you do not provide a single link, but require.
                    Quote: Adjutant
                    What a discovery. At VO there was a series of articles about the reciprocal use of chemical weapons by the Russian army - Retaliation.

                    On Wiki, there’s not a word about it (where are your links) https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Combat Poisoning Substances in the First World War
                    Quote: Adjutant
                    It turns out our cavalry jumped right into the chemical cloud from the use of chemical weapons?

                    Yeah, the 8th Army’s infantry fled to the artillery, after being suppressed, including by gas, where are references to this discovery
                    Quote: Adjutant
                    Sorry. Is tear gas really a chemical weapon?
                    And when did chloroacetone become a tear gas? Where is the link?
                    1. Adjutant
                      Adjutant 9 May 2019 18: 47
                      +9
                      naidas (naidas)
                      With you not, you do not provide a single link, but require.

                      so you wedged into someone else's communication
                      naidas (naidas)
                      On Wiki, there’s not a word about it (where are your links) https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Combat Poisoning Substances in the First World War

                      catch
                      https://topwar.ru/119972-himicheskaya-voyna-otvetnyy-udar-chast-1-i-vnov-smorgon.html
                      https://topwar.ru/119973-himicheskaya-voyna-otvetnyy-udar-chast-2-shestaya-himicheskaya.html
                      https://topwar.ru/132634-gazovyy-vihr-himicheskaya-voyna-na-russkom-fronte-pervoy-mirovoy-ch-2.html
                      https://topwar.ru/123384-pod-gradom-himicheskih-snaryadov-chast-1.html
                      https://topwar.ru/123385-pod-gradom-himicheskih-snaryadov-chast-2.html
                      naidas (naidas)
                      Yeah, the 8th Army’s infantry fled to the artillery, after being suppressed, including by gas, where are references to this discovery

                      Kindergarten senior group))
                      You can’t even imagine how the combined arms battle of that time developed. To reach the enemy artillery, it was necessary to overcome 2-3 lines of his defense (suppressed or unsuppressed - another question). Access to artillery positions meant a tactical breakthrough.
                      And, as a rule, in the conditions of the positional stage, the artillery managed to leave before the enemy approached it.
                      However, the answer is yes.
                      8th Army infantry fled
                      For cavalry was already introduced into a pure breakthrough - with varying degrees of success. The cavalry did not storm the positional front.
                      However, in order to eliminate doubts (especially taking into account your usual "logical" conclusions) - name me the regiment that rode
                      with battle whips, or "wolves". They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.

                      I’ll tell you a secret - I have in my personal collection ZhVDshki and descriptions of the exploits of almost all of the Don Cossack regiments (DKP), all Astrakhan and a number of regiments of other Cossack troops, as well as the guards and army cavalry regiments. So you tell me the regiment and the date - and I, having checked your imagination, will send you an excerpt from the document - right here.
                      And when did chloroacetone become a tear gas? Where is the link?

                      Firstly, chloroacetonphenone is a tear gas. Secondly, I answered it yours
                      The first in August 1914 they were used by the French: they were 26 mm grenades filled with tear gas (ethyl bromoacetate)

                      regarding the second part of the phrase
                      But the allied stocks of ethyl bromoacetate quickly came to an end, and the French administration replaced it with another agent, chloroacetone. (The Germans used it only in October 1914)

                      Dear, the fact is that even in your wiki it says:
                      and french administration replaced its other agent is chloroacetone

                      replaced (and without reference what and where), but not applied this administration (the administration of which is a kindergarten ?? don’t you yourself see the absurdity of this phrase).
                      First applied combat agents on the French front of WWI it was the Germans near Iprom on April 22, 1915, which is a reinforced concrete fact.
                      1. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 19: 28
                        -5
                        Do you yourself read your links? Here is the first one:
                        https://topwar.ru/119972-himicheskaya-voyna-otvetnyy-udar-chast-1-i-vnov-smorgon.html
                        Counter-battery fire was fired mainly by chemical munitions - and each of the Russian batteries fired from that time between 20 and 93 chemical shells.
                        There is still, but no use of gases by the Germans. Where is the gas strike of the Germans?
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        Kindergarten of the older group)) You can’t even imagine how the combined arms battle of that time developed. To reach the enemy artillery, it was necessary to overcome 2-3 lines of his defense (suppressed or unsuppressed - another question). Access to the artillery positions meant a tactical breakthrough. And, as a rule, in the conditions of the positional stage, the artillery managed to leave before the enemy approached it.

                        Where is the link that after the gas the artillery managed to move away?
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        Firstly, chloroacetonphenone is a tear gas.

                        Here I agree, tear gas, but at the same time the most damaging and poisonous. How did your artillery after the shelling go so far - where is the link?
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        replaced (and without reference what and where), but this administration did not apply (the administration of which is a kindergarten ?? don’t you yourself see the absurdity of this phrase).

                        Then in your opinion and in the kindergarten: https: //topwar.ru/16351-iz-istorii-himicheskogo-oruzhiya.html
                        There, too, the French first.
                      2. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 20: 29
                        +7
                        Counter-battery fire was fired mainly by chemical munitions - and each of the Russian batteries fired from that time between 20 and 93 chemical shells.
                        There is still, but no use of gases by the Germans. Where is the gas strike of the Germans?

                        What ?? Good to pull out of context. Ears do not blush?
                        It's about 16 years, the Germans have been using chemical weapons on the Russian front for 2 years ..
                        Here is a retaliation. Retaliatory strike as a whole, and not in relation to a specific battle.
                        Where is the link that after the gas the artillery managed to move away?

                        I’m telling you about tactics of battle in the context of positional warfare.
                        Here I agree, tear gas, but at the same time the most damaging and poisonous. How did your artillery after the shelling go so far - where is the link?

                        link to what? Which mass of fights are you interested in?
                        And where is your link with regard to delirium - that the Cossacks killed by poisoned Germans with whips ??
                        Then in your opinion and in the kindergarten: https: //topwar.ru/16351-iz-istorii-himicheskogo-oruzhiya.html There are also the first Frenchmen.

                        Of course the kindergarten of the senior group. Whatever administration of what and where does it replace - the first to apply it was the Germans near Iprom on April 22, 1915, that the combat agents on the French front of WWI
                        read serious literature uncle
                      3. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 21: 00
                        -6
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        Here is a retaliation. Retaliatory strike as a whole, and not in relation to a specific battle.

                        If in general, then the Germans also responded with gas attacks on the use of allies.
                        In your serious literature, the use of the French in August 1914 is not considered?
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        - What did the Cossacks kill with their whips the poisoned Germans ??

                        As I understand the link to the military units of the Germans with batons, you can’t give them. I will repeat about the poisoned Germans in one post if I didn’t indicate it in another. Nevertheless, there are pickles (it does not exclude the use), in the 8th army of the general from cavalry A. M. Kaledina (after shelling, both conventional and gas at the end), which, breaking through the front, occupied Lutsk on June 7, and by June 15 completely defeated the 4th Austro-Hungarian army of Archduke Joseph Ferdinand.
                        Or again for the third time, what do you think the Cossacks used whip or wore for beauty?
                      4. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 21: 08
                        +9
                        If in general, then the Germans also responded with gas attacks on the use of allies.

                        we are talking about the Russian front. This time.
                        The Allies likewise responded to the first chemical blow of the Germans. These are two.
                        In your serious literature, the use of the French in August 1914 is not considered?

                        no, it was not a chemical weapon. It was used by the Germans on April 22, 1915.
                        As I understand the link to the military units of the Germans with batons you can’t bring

                        I named the attack on June 19, 1916. We will establish a regiment.
                        and you can’t even name it - the situation when the Cossacks used whips in battle.
                        the presence does not exclude - so name finally the real episodes of application
                      5. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 21: 54
                        -5
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        we are talking about the Russian front. This time.

                        In Russian, the Germans used the first in the month of January in the battle of Bolimov, nevertheless, if there weren’t any chemical attacks of the French in 1914, we could not talk about chemical weapons at all.
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        no, it was not a chemical weapon.

                        And here it is precisely chloroacetone that is chemical weapons (even in spray cans a civilian gas weapon of self-defense), lacrimators are a special group of chemical warfare agents (BOV).
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        and you can’t even name it - the situation when the Cossacks used whips in battle.

                        I can’t, it will be interesting for me to see your real denial of the use of crap. And then you all wrinkle, yes or no.
                      6. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 22: 16
                        +8
                        In Russian, the Germans used the first in the month of January in the battle of Bolimov

                        Wrong. On the Russian front, it was first used in December 1914 in the Borzhimov sector.
                        On the French front - the Germans used in April 1915 near Iprom.
                        I can’t, it will be interesting for me to see your real denial of the use of crap. And then you all wrinkle, yes or no.

                        This is completely uninteresting to me. They don’t let you sleep))
                        And I do not claim that the nuts were NOT APPLIED, I say that I do not know such cases. On the contrary, you say that you were used.
                        If you affirm, prove it.
                        But something tells you that you can’t - not for nothing, because you get out of it already) Oh, not in vain))
                      7. naidas
                        naidas 10 May 2019 16: 35
                        -5
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        But something tells you that you can’t - not for nothing, because you get out of it already) Oh, not in vain))

                        Well, I admitted before you that there was no evidence: naidas (naidas) 2 Yesterday, 21:54, it’s you there puffed up something other than agitation to prove about the Germans with a club.
                        And I want to, as before, have pleased me with the same:
                        1.
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        The key to solving the problem is small landowners, as they are now in Europe and the USA.

                        2.
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        Yes, but they planned the Galician operation) Even before the war.

                        Quote: Adjutant
                        Yes, a striking example of the defensive nature of Russia's military preparations
                        Well, add defensive measures in the north (Baltic) and south. Defensive plans for the headquarters meeting (where the offensive is supposed to be point 1), plans for France for Alsace and Lorraine. In general, the Entente is the most defensive, if you look at the 1914 map.
                      8. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 10 May 2019 17: 17
                        +8
                        Why this flood ???
                        I'm about your post a floor above. Or sorted out a little or not a little?
                      9. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 10 May 2019 17: 27
                        +8
                        I tell you about batons in the document naidas (naidas), and you tell me your unfounded fabrications about whips.
                        I once wrote to you about the defensive measures of the Entente (which, yes, evolved as a defensive anti-German alliance), despite outwardly offensive planning because no one has canceled active defense. But not here.
                        And you sculpt a humpbacked one, taking out the grievances of the past in the comments on the article about the atrocities of the Germans over the poisoned Russian soldiers in the captured trench.
                        The confusion, lack of system, logic instead of knowledge, and frank inventions and perversions are what distinguishes you, and I come to the conclusion that our communication is superfluous. And now and in the future, because contact with such types is clearly not a sign.
                        I have the honor
            2. peta locksmith
              peta locksmith 9 May 2019 17: 10
              +1
              join the wait!
              link to eyewitnesses, documentary evidence - now many archives have been opened


              only the request of examples with millions of raped German women not to bring - already tired
              1. naidas
                naidas 9 May 2019 17: 36
                -4
                The Cossacks had their own piece of whip - combat, or "wolves". They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.
                What do you prefer with a baton with spikes from German monsters or Volkoboy with metal.
                I will assume that the result in the right hands is the same.
                1. Adjutant
                  Adjutant 9 May 2019 18: 51
                  +10
                  The Cossacks had their own piece of whip - combat, or "wolves". They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.
                  What do you prefer with a baton with spikes from German monsters or Volkoboy with metal.
                  I will assume that the result in the right hands is the same.

                  So, you do not fantasize, but name the regiment - which developed gas attacks, killing the wounded Germans. But this is crap, and in Russian, nonsense. So don’t assume it’s not worth it))
                  1. naidas
                    naidas 9 May 2019 19: 36
                    -5
                    Quote: Adjutant
                    so, you do not fantasize, but name the regiment

                    But really call the German regiment where the batons were used.
                    And what do you think Cossacks used whip, or just worn in the First World War?
                    If you just wore it, without use, then of course crap, but in Russian it’s nonsense. But if you used it, then what? They seemed to be not embarrassed in the Civil.
                    1. Adjutant
                      Adjutant 9 May 2019 20: 22
                      +9
                      No, you didn’t just write about whips. And the hedgehog is clear that they were.
                      I about the fact that the Cossacks with these whips finished off the poisoned Germans - your pure fantasy
                      1. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 20: 31
                        -5
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        And the hedgehog is clear that they were.

                        And the hedgehog is clear that they were used.
                        Read my post about Nagayki-Today, 17: 36, where they finished?
                        If you answer this post today, 16: 51, then it’s worth it if that absolutely did not prevent the infantry from defending the line of defense and let Kaledin’s cavalry go further. And again, you say that the cavalry didn’t use a cannon in this case either? - And the hedgehog understands what they were. For what? For beauty or application? What do you think?
                      2. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 20: 57
                        +8
                        Sorry
                        You are writing now:
                        Read my post about Nagayki-Today, 17: 36, where they finished?

                        And this is not yours higher:
                        On a large scale, chemical weapons were used by the Russian army in the summer of 1916 during the Brusilovsky breakthrough. 76-mm shells with strangulation agents (chloropicrin) and poisonous (phosgene, vensinite) action showed their high efficiency in suppressing enemy artillery batteries.And after the enemy they finished off the cavalry with battle whips, or "wolves". They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.

                        So why are you kidding now?
                        Well, then write:
                        absolutely did not hinder the infantry from taking up the defensive line and letting Kaledin’s cavalry farther. And again, you say that the cavalry didn’t use a whip in this case either?

                        interfered - did not interfere ...
                        do we have a fantastic novel? or a legal case with a bunch of tolerances?
                        I tell you - name a specific situation and we will check according to the documents.
                        Yes you will not name. Because it’s stupid to use whips in battle. They are good against demonstrators in peacetime. After all, which one will apply the whip when there are peaks and checkers. Can I still use it?)) No, but what kind of figure could have lost a rifle or a saber and fought off with a whip. Give an example, I do not know such
                      3. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 21: 06
                        -5
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        So why are you fooling now? How is it that with your ears turned red? Why not bring my post completely?

                        And if so :
                        On a large scale, chemical weapons were used by the Russian army in the summer of 1916 during the Brusilovsky breakthrough. 76-mm shells with strangulation agents (chloropicrin) and poisonous (phosgene, vensinite) action proved to be highly effective in suppressing the enemy’s artillery batteries. After the enemy, they succeeded in cavalry with military guns, or “wolves”. They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.

                        Quote: Adjutant
                        No, but maybe, having lost a rifle or a saber, what kind of figure also fought off with a whip. Give an example, I do not know such

                        Then let's stay with our:
                        You claim that the military whips were not used, I say once there were used. I think you can finish.
                      4. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 21: 12
                        +9
                        And if so :
                        On a large scale, chemical weapons were used by the Russian army in the summer of 1916 during the Brusilovsky breakthrough. 76-mm shells with strangulation agents (chloropicrin) and poisonous (phosgene, vensinite) action proved to be highly effective in suppressing the enemy’s artillery batteries. After the enemy, they succeeded in cavalry with military guns, or “wolves”. They were supplemented by lead bullets sewn into a slap and metal heads. A cable was woven into the sarven.

                        So I say - at first they lied that the Cossacks whipped up the mythical poisoned Germans, and now they turned on the fool and twenty times their nonsense.
                        You claim that the military whips were not used, I say once there were used. I think you can finish.

                        I do not claim that I DO NOT APPLY, I say that I do not know such cases.
                        On the contrary, you say that you were used. So prove it.
                        I repeat for the fifth time - what are the episodes of use. Why just balabol, huh?
                      5. naidas
                        naidas 9 May 2019 21: 19
                        -6
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        I do not claim that NOT APPLIED

                        Well, all the more, you do not know the use of batons by the Germans (I didn’t receive a link), but they are animals, but the Cossacks with nagayki is normal.
                        Since the war, everyone has been atrocious and everyone is to blame, especially those who brought the country to these heroic battles, in a heroic war.
                        Quote: Adjutant
                        On the contrary, you say that you were used. So prove it.

                        Why, if you do not claim that you did not apply.
                      6. Adjutant
                        Adjutant 9 May 2019 21: 35
                        +8
                        Well, all the more, you do not know the use of batons by the Germans (I didn’t receive a link), but they are animals, but the Cossacks with nagayki is normal.

                        perverse conclusion
                        The document indicates the use of batons by the Germans - Description of the attack of June 19, 1916.
                        The use of cossacks in a battle by Cossacks is not indicated by anything other than your exuberant imagination.
                        Why, if you do not claim that you did not apply

                        I repeat, I do not claim that the nuts were NOT APPLIED, I say that I do not know such cases. On the contrary, you say that you were used.
                        If you affirm, prove it.
                        But something tells you that you can’t - not for nothing, because you get out of it already) Oh, not in vain))
          2. TokarevT
            TokarevT 11 May 2019 22: 00
            0
            As soon as we respond to others with the same + several times, enemies quickly come to mind.
      2. Mr Credo
        Mr Credo 9 May 2019 11: 16
        +4
        I haven’t seen such news anywhere, but I won’t be surprised at it. Damned Gorbachev and his company driving the myth of the civilized West! IN a good resource! But how to convey it to schoolchildren? Foreigners like without non-commercial (not commercial!) Structures have made structural changes to their consciousness! And in our leadership brought commercial consciousness! So we have that today the mausoleum behind the screen. But some writers write about the intentional blockade of Leningrad by Stalin! As one comrade from the Internet wrote, akhidzhaknutnaya! And today we have a lot of such Akhijakas! Well, and how after all this not to respect Stalin? How? If Stalin is criticized today, then he did everything right! No? Is everything right today? Here is Ukraine. Is everything right there?
    2. Albatroz
      Albatroz 9 May 2019 10: 47
      +11
      Airfield (Airfield)
      that is, "chemistry" is prohibited

      military chemistry. and at the beginning of WWI
      and the bayonet in the ass, if you please?

      under the guise of one atrocity - others were going on
      1. Hunghuz
        Hunghuz 9 May 2019 11: 04
        +9
        They thought that the gas cloud would hide everything, write it all down.
        Anyway, they hoped to stay in the trenches.
        And ours returned - and everything was opened!
  2. Albatroz
    Albatroz 9 May 2019 10: 51
    +11
    The enemy did not disdain anything, committing war crimes in the First World War - striking with forbidden weapons, attacking sanitary facilities, mocking the wounded.
    But it didn’t help him!
    And it did not help in both world wars. For God is not on the side of power, but on the side of Truth.
    Happy Holiday - Great Victory Day!
    1. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 9 May 2019 11: 05
      +10
      Albatroz is right in everything!
      Mutually, and you happy holiday!
  3. Dalton
    Dalton 9 May 2019 11: 31
    +8
    A very interesting cycle about the consequences of the use of chemical weapons on the Russian front of WWI and the suffering that this weapon carried, the initiator of which was the German.
    This must always be remembered! By the way, technical suddenness did not bring the Germans any benefit either in the WWII or the WWII.
    Airdrome (Airdrome) We see the suffering suffered by weapons prohibited by international agreements - the weapon initiated by the Austro-German aggressor.
    that is, "chemistry" is prohibited, and a bayonet in the ass, if you please?

    This conclusion (this is obvious) summarizes the entire cycle of three articles (list below).
    There is nothing surprising. The German counted on the impunity of his atrocities, but it turned out differently - the Russians regained their positions and documented the atrocities.
    Albatroz (Manfred) The enemy did not disdain anything, committing war crimes

    A familiar slogan - the end justifies the means. Yes, it didn’t help!
    But military honor and human morality are violated. Again in both world wars.
    Hunghuz (Mikhailo Kutuzoff) with the Holiday!

    good drinks hi
  4. Dimas84
    Dimas84 9 May 2019 11: 43
    +3
    My school geography teacher, who survived the blockade of Leningrad, called the Germans nothing more than "servants of Satan" ...
    I believe that the dominance of migrants and the LGBT movement is a small, but deserved part of the punishment that the "master race" should bear for the atrocities of their ancestors. No statute of limitations
  5. Adjutant
    Adjutant 9 May 2019 12: 03
    +10
    Unlike some, the Russian soldier was generous to the defeated enemy - he shared the last drop of water and a piece of bread.
    But the enemy behaved differently. Well it didn't help
  6. sergo1914
    sergo1914 9 May 2019 16: 03
    +1
    And then we came to Europe and turned out to be barbarians. I don’t know to whom - how, but it flatters me. Now, if we get there right now and ask in French, “What about cua?” and in response to twitter charge from the foot ...
    1. RL
      RL 9 May 2019 22: 18
      -2
      It is not that they came to Europe, and they did come to Europe before, but the last time they came and imposed by force "their own and only correct workers 'and peasants' truth" by force. So the bummer happened.
      Che Guevara, too, wanted to make everyone happy with violence, and with what pleasure the "enslaved" got rid of him, but we, while peaceful, do not prohibit Stalinist-type communist parties. The costs of democracy, however.
      Otherwise, come with your foot. We are waiting, sir. And ready.
  7. iouris
    iouris 10 May 2019 11: 08
    +2
    The German Wehrmacht was not recognized as a criminal organization, but in fact it is. Ehrenburg's call "Kill the German!" did not appear out of nowhere. The German spirit, when combined with advanced German technology, inevitably reproduces such an organization. Perhaps this is an institution.
  8. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 10 May 2019 12: 05
    +1
    the creation of chemical weapons (including the famous Cyclone B used later in the death camps) for Germany was a Jewish chemist Fritz Haber, his wife committed suicide after a dispute with her husband during World War I, Fritz himself fled from Germany in the 30s and died shortly before the extermination of Jews through his development, his son committed suicide in the year 46, his relatives Jews were also killed in death camps
  9. akunin
    akunin 13 May 2019 08: 29
    0
    I don’t think that after we saw the “deeds” of the German, we kissed them passionately. Something tells me that in the front sectors where the officers did not play nobility, the ordinary Russian soldier also did not like the German.
  10. Mart14
    Mart14 1 August 2019 05: 29
    0
    Quote: Adjutant
    I have in my personal collection ZhVDshki and descriptions of the exploits of almost all of the Don Cossack regiments (DKP)

    If it doesn’t complicate, can you bring, in a subject, an extract from the magazine of the 45th Don Cossack Regiment, which fell (1 and 4 hundreds) on May 18, 1915 under the German gas wave?
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