23550 head patrol ship will be launched at the end of the year

The head universal patrol ship of the Arctic zone of the ice class of the 23550 project "Ivan Papanin" will be launched at the end of the 2019 of the year and put into operation in the 2023 of the year. This was stated by the general director of the Admiralty Shipyards, Alexander Buzakov, reports web resource Mil.Press FlotProm.

The official image of the patrol ship ice class project 23550

According to Aleksandr Buzakov, director of the Admiralty Shipyards, the launch of the 23550 "Ivan Papan" patrol ship will take place at the end of 2019, the second ship of this class and the first serial "Nikolai Zubov" will be laid down immediately after Ivan’s launch Papanin. " The sections have already been completely made for him, the formation of the corps will begin immediately after the laying ceremony The transfer of "Nikolai Zubov" in operation is scheduled for 2024 year.

The lead ship of the project 23550 "Ivan Papanin" was laid in April 2017. According to the shipbuilders' plans, the transfer of the Navy ship was to take place this year. The first serial "Nikolay Zubov" was originally planned to be laid in 2018, with the transfer to the customer in 2020. However, in 2018, it was announced that the construction of combat icebreakers was being shifted to the right by 3-4, due to funding problems. It is planned to build two ships of this project.

The project of patrol ships of ice class 23550 was developed by the specialists of the Almaz Central Marine Design Bureau. New ships combine the qualities of an icebreaker, tugboat and patrol ship. The ship can be used in all navigation areas, from the Arctic to the tropical seas, while it is able to overcome the ice thickness to 1,5 meters.

According to previously published data, the displacement of ships of the 23550 project is 8500 tons; length - 110 meters; width - about 20 meters; draft - 6 meters; maximum travel speed - 16 knots; crew / extra crew - approximately 60 / 50 people; autonomy of swimming - 60 days. Special equipment - towing winch of the order of 80 tons and two cargo electrohydraulic cranes with a load capacity of 28 tons.

Armament: automatic 76,2-mm artillery mount AK-176MA, anti-submarine or search and rescue helicopter Ka-27, two high-speed boats of the Raptor type, Drones. It is possible to place missile weapons.

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According to previously published data, the displacement of ships of the 23550 project is 8500 tons; length - 110 meters; width - about 20 meters; draft - 6 meters; maximum travel speed - 16 knots; crew / extra crew - approximately 60 / 50 people; autonomy of swimming - 60 days. Special equipment - towing winch of the order of 80 tons and two cargo electrohydraulic cranes with a load capacity of 28 tons.

Armament: automatic 76,2-mm AK-176MA artillery, anti-submarine or search and rescue helicopter Ka-27, two Raptor-type speedboats, unmanned aerial vehicles. Possible placement of missile weapons.

Displacement is like that of a destroyer, and the ship is essentially defenseless. How do they say? Run up to a ruble and a blow at a penny? So it’s possible to build a frigate / destroyer class at our shipyards 22350M.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

With such a displacement of 8500 tons, it is even worse armed than a corvette

[stalki]

And that he must be hung up at the most I can not with various attacking means, he is more sharpened to carry out controlling and auxiliary functions

anti-submarine or search and rescue helicopter Ka-27, two speed boats of the Raptor type, drones.

autonomy of swimming - 60 days. Special equipment - a towing winch with a thrust of about 80 tons and two cargo electro-hydraulic cranes with a lifting capacity of 28 tons.

New ships combine the qualities of an icebreaker, tugboat and patrol ship. The ship can be used in any navigation zone, from the Arctic to tropical seas, while it is able to overcome ice up to 1,5 meters thick.

So everything he has is there for this. And it’s good that they do this, the fleet needs everything especially in the Arctic zone, where navigation and maintenance of the main ships are complicated by natural factors. Good news.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

An ice class patrol ship, in addition to patrolling, should also help our submarines, I think it’s not enough one helicopter, I need a weak gun mount to search for submarines, you can add RBU-6000 a couple of pieces and at least some kind of air defense for self-defense

[stalki]

So no one thought that such a displacement was not for the sake of a combat reserve, but for the function of an icebreaker, so that there would be something to fall on the ice and break it, everyone immediately rushed to the fact that he didn’t know how to fight and let's minus, but at least give me a hundred minuses to sneeze at them, first you need to think about why you did it with your brains, look for arguments, constructively analyze it.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

And so it will be like Svalbard, W 303

[stalki]

Well, in principle, yes, but for its functions it is quite enough.

[Serg65]

Quote: stalki

all at once rushed to the fact that he does not know how to fight

Sergei, well, at least they could put the Broadsword, I'm talking about the Armor and do not stutter. If the calibers are stuck, then I think protection from their "partners" is necessary.

Quote: stalki

and let's minus

This is from insanity.

[Anchonsha]

That's right, I support you. This is a patrol ship with the performance of serving the fleet functions. And for defense and attack there are other ships.

[vladcub]

Alexander Galaktionov, you have not read carefully: "ANTI-FOOD or pastel search engine" will depend on what specific equipment will be installed on it.

[Serg65]

Quote: Alexander Galaktionov

plus you can add RBU-6000 a couple of pieces

What for?

Quote: Alexander Galaktionov

at least some defense for self-defense

That lack of air defense also bothers me.

[loki565]

They would replace the cannon with air defense like a sea shell, would become a more effective and multifunctional weapon.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

With such a displacement of 8500 tons, it is even worse armed than a corvette

Well, this is a patrol ship !!!

What do you want to have a patrol ship for the price of a destroyer? Or do you think that additional weapons systems and crew members for its maintenance are worthless?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Well, this is a patrol ship !!!

And what naval patrol ship with such a composition of weapons will patrol? Or the fleet, as with 22160, decided to replace the FSB and fulfill the tasks of another department, which, moreover, it has no right to fulfill?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Alexey RA

Or the fleet, as with 22160, decided to replace the FSB

The FSB is limited to our waters, but beyond them there is already a fleet.

[bayard]

This is a patrol ship of the ARCTIC zone, an icebreaking (!) Class, capable of operating in the ice. Its task is to ensure the safety of navigation on the Northern Sea Route, control shipping rules, as well as ... ensure the supply of our military bases in the Arctic - on the islands. He can take passengers / landing up to 50+ and good cargo capabilities.

Air defense might not hurt him, but from whom in the Arctic to defend? Aviation there is only ours (someone else's will not reach), carriers of the CD are also not provided - ice and legally our zone. And if anything, a cannon, for air targets, can work out. Though "Pantsyr-M" and would not interfere, perhaps. Completion - we'll see. And there is a reserve there.

[vladcub]

For his purposes he is well armed: a 76 mm gun, an opposing helicopter, "raptors" and for dessert: "perhaps, the placement of missile weapons"

[Marconi41]

Quote: Alexander Galaktionov

With such a displacement of 8500 tons, it is even worse armed than a corvette

So this is not a frigate, not a destroyer. This is a patrol ship. By and large, a military icebreaker. He will run around the Arctic and keep order on the NSR. At the same time and monitor the partners pl.

[Piramidon]

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the ship is essentially defenseless

And given that

Possible placement of missile weapons.

it’s not so defenseless.

[maximum 8]

Well, if you fight with polar bears just right.

[Piramidon]

Quote: maximum 8

Well, if you fight with polar bears just right.

Missiles, bears !?

[radiootdel4]

Do not touch the bear.

[Piramidon]

Quote: radiootdel4

Do not touch the bear.

I just answered. But in life, I love animals.

[Astra wild]

What do you dislike bears with? What do you want to fight with them?

[Wedmak]

Well, who will threaten him in the Arctic? American trough? This is an ice class patrol ship, a specialized patrolman for the Northern Sea Route can be considered.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Wedmak

So who will threaten him in the Arctic?

And "into the distance" a little bit to see chama is not enough? No?
1. The ice is melting. Moreover, in the Arctic in 2 times faster than in the Antarctic.
2. Clear water outside the 12-mile zone means "freedom of navigation" that the Yankees cling to. But the 200-mile Exclusive Economic Zone is everything! and her, darling, must be guarded vigilantly and vigilantly ...
3. In the Arctic, a patrol boat can easily be swooped down, launched from an aircraft or surface / submarine carrier, such as Virginia.
That is why, in my opinion, it vitally needs air defense / anti-aircraft defense systems for self-defense. One turntable is clearly not enough. RBU-6000 is yesterday. You need to put "Package-NK" or something like that. And for air defense - "Pantsir-SE", tk. 40 km is pretty decent for a "patrol". AU can be enhanced up to 100 mm. Then it is possible to work quite decently at the VC ... But the fact that the "airborne squad" he has up to 50 people. and there is an internal combustion engine - so just wonderful!
In short, we will have a military icebreaker "patroller" with a view of the future.

[svp67]

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Displacement like a destroyer, and the ship is essentially defenseless. How do they say? Run up to the ruble and hit for a penny?

In general, it’s more than an ICE BREAKER, even so PATROL ICE BREAKER, and then everything else

The lead universal patrol ship of the Arctic zone of ice class of project 23550 "Ivan Papanin" will be launched at the end of 2019 and put into operation in 2023.

Now the main thing is that Ms. Poklonskaya, with her fans, would not get to him, otherwise she’ll drown

[URAL72]

The ship is designed to patrol the Northern Sea Route, and our potential partners do not openly recognize this route as Russian. Allegedly international, so we are waiting for provocations and getting ready to argue our position. From the comments: - it would not be bad at least some SAC, because the underwater situation also needs to be controlled, anti-submarine capabilities in those parts are more important than anti-ship and even air defense. Although, given that the "friends" have ships with missile defense capabilities, maybe we should also think about icebreakers with a missile defense system? This can be cheaper than permanent air defense / missile defense bases in the north and the absence of roads.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

From the comments: - it would be nice to have at least some sort of hull, because the underwater situation also needs to be controlled, anti-submarine capabilities in those parts are more important than anti-ship and even air defense.

HOOK, torpedo tubes, then it would be nice to push 3C14 as well, to get a boat where the torpedo does not get + 2 anti-submarine helicopters.

This is a PATROL SHIP, not an anti-submarine one.

If in the Arctic there is a need to control the underwater situation, a submarine will be sent there.

A ship should cost the money for which it performs the task, and making it more expensive will result in us not having the right number of such ships or leading to a reduction in other budget items.

[URAL72]

There is no need for a gauge there, because the ice situation is unlikely to allow the use of plur, but an extended towed antenna along with the operator’s post is not at all expensive. The helicopter is already there, but anti-submarine is not always needed, - ice. Is it not always in the Barents? Torpedo tubes are the same. Just the lighting of the underwater environment with an indication of the shore, let them decide what to do there. We are tight with submarines, not enough for the whole north, especially nuclear ones. Have you heard anything about modular weapons? For example, a Danish patrol officer is easy and simple to make both anti-submarine and anti-ship, depending on your needs. This is a saving and not additional costs. Now many are doing this, and Russia too. We have already discussed here a not entirely successful attempt at a modular replacement of the hangar with UKKS. And why can not an anti-submarine ship perform patrol functions? Can we save on patrols of such a displacement in favor of anti-submarine? Given the lack of urgent need for air defense, this is not an expensive modification.

[Serg65]

Quote: URAL72

Can we save on patrols of such a displacement in favor of anti-submarine?

Anti-submarine icebreaker? Original and truly unparalleled!

[URAL72]

Firstly, judging by the article, the base of an anti-submarine helicopter is provided for on it, which means that the fleet even considers it as anti-submarine, albeit weak. Secondly, 1,5 meters of ice, this is not an icebreaker, but an ice class ship, as indicated, the rest is the author’s speculation. Walk him in the clear sea without fear of random ice floes and ice fields. No longer required.

[Serg65]

Quote: URAL72

judging by the article

Judging by this article! In all other articles about this project, Ka-27PS is indicated i.e. search and rescue!

Quote: URAL72

Secondly, 1,5 meters of ice, this is not an icebreaker, but an ice class ship, as indicated

The maximum thickness of ice that can be split by an atomic icebreaker with a displacement of 23460 is 3,5 meters in winter-spring navigation, and 1,5 meters .... well, yes, it's nothing Only this is the Arc7 class (LU7) and it is no longer just an ice class ship, let's say the icebreaker Dudinka is one less class!

[Marconi41]

Quote: URAL72

Walk him in the clear sea without fear of random ice floes and ice fields. No longer required.

You shouldn’t be so. 1,5 meters is quite worthy for a linear diesel icebreaker. And on the NSR during the navigation period is rarely more.

[Serg65]

Quote: URAL72

not a bad thing at all

This is an icebreaker, and ice does not like any protrusions!

[URAL72]

Have you read carefully? It's about a towed antenna !!!

[Serg65]

Quote: URAL72

Have you read carefully?

My dear writer, try to drag a towed antenna into the hole! I wish I could see you when you lose her! For the loss of an anchor, they will scare for a period of time, but they will not even scare for the antenna ... right away "So hello you Magadan"!

[URAL72]

Firstly, the draft is SIX meters, what prevents you from fixing the antenna below the waterline? Secondly, the search for submarines is going at low speeds, especially in such a difficult ice situation. For such conditions, the "cable" can be made stronger. The question is solved.

[Serg65]

Quote: URAL72

First

Those. do not care icebreaker, do the ship PLO? Now in the construction of ave. 20386 ... maybe we can manage it .... or not?

[URAL72]

And where did you go? I proposed inexpensively expanding the functionality of the ship, with a displacement of 8500 tons, which, in addition to the crew, can take up to 60 more people. What problems? Even the project does not need to be redone; it is possible to establish a PBA and an operator post as part of a small modernization. Ka-27PS according to basing conditions is no different from the anti-submarine version. Why did you attach a corvette here? What a fright? I spoke ONLY for this project. In addition, as indicated, the ship can serve in the tropics, and in Kamchatka, God himself ordered it. The Pacific Fleet is in general a disaster, well, it’s not at all up to the patrol icebreakers, but with anti-submarine search and rescue capabilities, this ship is worth its weight in gold.

[Dart2027]

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Displacement like a destroyer and the ship is essentially defenseless.

Displacement is a pretty relative definition. For ships intended for sailing under "normal" conditions, the hull is made as lightweight as possible, which is why it is the warships that are damaged in all collisions, and not any dry cargo ships. The same ship is intended for northern latitudes and therefore has a powerful hull, which "eats up" the entire displacement.
Length - 110 meters. For comparison, it is 104 meters in corvettes.
Of course, it is wider than corvettes (20 meters versus 13), but still it’s not a destroyer, but a maximum light frigate.

[cormorant]

Where he will go with him and with his weapons there are no opponents and is not visible in the long run.

[asr55]

And about the fact that he breaks the ice up to 2 meters (according to the creator) is it like you are nonsense !?

[MoJloT]

We are preparing for provocations in the Arctic zone from the side of sworn partners, we have an icebreaker for bulk, but we can’t catch the end of 2019.

[loki565]

They would remove the cannon and put at least air defense. Why in general a cannon, there is a sea shell for small cters and its hawt. It is interesting and the carapace can shoot at shells ??? Like a wasp coping with this. Video in the theme of the struggle of border guards.

[Serg65]

Quote: loki565

Like a wasp coping with this

And where in Vidio Osa then? AK - I see 630, but Osu never noticed ..

[loki565]

Yes, I'm not talking about this video, but where the MRK Mirage on Georgian boats fired. Two Osami drowned the boat, and the main complex in milk)))

[asr55]

What have you not said before !? And already built. The designer is now tearing his hair.

[viktorish007]

WHY DO YOU NEED IT ???

No seriously, what kind of tasks should this thing solve?

whom should he patrol in the ice there? walruses? seals? or rockets for a polar bear to gasp?

I just don’t understand why it’s necessary to arm an icebreaker at all? the patroller should be able to pursue the ship intruder, we have smugglers icebreakers in the north divorced ???

[loki565]

Perhaps to protect the Northern Sea Route, there, like ours, they established the rules for the passage of ships in the Kerch Strait.

[viktorish007]

with warships this thing can not do anything civil inspection? okay those who will lead the icebreakers? just what exactly is the meaning of an icebreaker armed as a watchman? I would understand if this pipelatz had a full-fledged set with air defense and normal radars, you couldn’t make an icebreaker, you probably couldn’t attach a platform for a turntable to an ordinary icebreaker and even search boats, yeah, if it’s a cannon and a missile armament, and positioning the icebreaker as a warship

ps it seems that this was done on-the-tip like the order was for something to supposedly strengthen the military presence in the Arctic, we’ll do it, it’s not clear that it’s not clear why, but we’ll do it, we will work out the watered order.

ps.2 better used to build a pair of ordinary icebreakers without gadgets

[loki565]

Dimensions allow you to make bulk on many warships. Plus transportation of a large inspection team. The speed is more than ordinary icebreakers. For the guard, it’s quite normal, no one will fight with him, otherwise they won’t float away.

[viktorish007]

then it’s necessary to weld a battering ram on the nose, ali shypy on the sides with skulls, like in a wah, another chapel instead of a radar and fighting monks, and there will be a full set of functionality, as if Arly Burke could pick up.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: viktorish007

civil inspection?

But he can’t do this - for this is the Navy, not the FSB. The detention and inspection of ships are the responsibility of the RBM.

[viktorish007]

then an open question with whom will he fight so beautiful in the Arctic, who are those mysterious horrors who need to be shot with enta cannons? Norwegian-Canadian War Seals? the fact that the Norwegians for some reason put a cannon on the new icebreaker assigned to the Navy doesn’t mean that they need to be apeed, we already got along with the modules, although the same Danes - pioneers of modular designs in the Navy spit from this mega idea, ate too much, but we mean the richest and can do anything

ps I didn’t understand where so many laht-tweaks came from. Friday, I thought they had a short day

[bessmertniy]

In general, it is difficult to imagine that in those places Somali pirates could be established, and for the enemy more seriously, probably, more serious armament is needed. If it is a question of patrolling, then, in my opinion, it makes no sense to drive patrol icebreakers throughout the Northern Sea Route. It is enough to monitor the situation from outer space - the Arctic from there is at a glance, and it would make sense for violators to go out to intercept only when monitoring can show a possible threat to caravans or our Arctic coast.

[Nastia makarova]

cry again !!! build badly, do not build bad too

[viktorish007]

it’s bad bad when they’re building it is not clear that, in principle, iron MPH can be added instead of a cannon to 10-30 meters moving out of the deck, the damaging effect will be more

[Nastia makarova]

want and put rockets for example 6 calibers and there is no opponent in that region

[Piramidon]

Quote: viktorish007

it’s bad when they’re building

Probably thought before building. But they didn’t go to VO.

[rayruav]

Victor, you don’t pay attention to the illiterate, they saw the sea from the shore, and even that’s not all for one Makarov’s set up calibers anywhere from time to time to spit for such a church, kinder, kyuhe and she issues pirouettes

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Well, if the Norwegians got the same Svalbard in 2002, W 303 then cry

[Nastia makarova]

judging by wikipedia, he has only one 57 mm cannon, there is no missile weapons at all

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

judging by wikipedia, he has only one 57 mm cannon, there is no missile weapons at all

And what will stop them from putting NSM on these icebreaker ships?

[Nastia makarova]

not allowed. not invented

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Who told you that?

[Nastia makarova]

Wikipedia does not write about it

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

Wikipedia does not write about it

And if on Wikipedia they write that tomorrow the end of the world will you also believe?

[Nastia makarova]

it's not about faith; it's about knowledge

[Astra wild]

Nastya, bravo

[Nastia makarova]

thank))))

[rayruav]

norgs can build what they want well, but why do you even need to be in tiksi in Murmansk

[Dart2027]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

cry again !!! build badly, do not build bad too

The main thing is to cry. Some even cry that they are building Boreyev.

[Nastia makarova]

but something has been divorced recently, is it time to open the hunting season to reduce the population?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

but something a lot of these recently divorced

I recall my childhood, pre-perestroika, then, too, experts who sat on their chests telling that there was propaganda on TV, that we had nothing, we couldn’t, education was backward, etc. etc.

[Nastia makarova]

who does not believe in himself and in the country will achieve nothing

[Dart2027]

So it happened.

[Nastia makarova]

Unfortunately yes

[rayruav]

slaughter crying on your nose not from what’s bad, but from the fact that they’re building not what’s needed

[asr55]

Well baubab you. There, the northern sea route passes without an icebreaker anywhere!

[Fantazer911]

A good but unfinished project, especially the part of the words that indicate the possible installation of missile weapons.
It is necessary to install both an air defense system and missile weapons, let it be a sort of young Ilya Muromets!

[K-50]

the second ship of this class and the first serial "Nikolai Zubov" will be laid down immediately after the launch of the "Ivan Papanin". The sections have already been completely made for it, the formation of the body will begin immediately after the laying ceremony.

And what does it take 4 years?
Is it faster in any way?

[Astra wild]

Colleagues, you didn’t notice that the lead ship was named "Ivan Papanin"! It seems to me deeply symbolic that the name of the famous explorer of the Arctic is named the guardian of our Arctic

[Mordor]

And what a BEAUTY! Amazingly beautiful ship! )))

[Evil 55]

"Nikolay Zubov" is who? A composer, an honored admiral-oceanologist or another lover of the "Great Empress"? Maybe it's time to specify the patronymics in the names of the ships, so that there are no idle speculations and stupid discrepancies ...

[Cloud4CRY]

The ship is very beautiful. To demonstrate our presence in the Arctic is quite suitable.

[rayruav]

and the raptors in the ice what they will do, in the arctic near the fleet the first priority is the area of ​​our vast area amerskiy apl climb wherever they want

[Gogia]

Why do not they put anti-submarine weapons on it. Package NK and GAS? a wonderful dual-purpose ship would turn out !!!

[Viknt]

Deaf, blind and toothless. Rename Serebryakov, though the magpie stood, but with a significantly lower displacement ..

[Viknt]

Comparison with the Norwegian "brother" is certainly strong, that the peasants, then the monkey. Behind the Norwegian trough, the entire NATO fleet and the waters of the Gulf Stream, behind the Russian endless ice fields and that's all, there is no one to hope for. They will drown and you will not have time to blink an eye. Why did you foresee the rockets, who were you going to shoot in the North Pole with interest? There are only submarines occasionally come across. Is the ship armed with shovels and birch brooms for them? And since the most dangerous missile is the northern direction, will the ship be armed with blue kerchiefs? How are ten nodes going to patrol the open water area? The one who gave the terms of reference for the design should be sent to Syria, put in the UAZ, in which the officers died, issued a service barrel (pistol) and sent to patrol.
At the Khmeimim base they do not have time to fight off drones, ships without marines no longer go on board, they say Americans are already threatening to attack ports. So their wards will soon have gliders too. In the West, they are already openly saying that there is a third world war, only unlike the first two, it took on the character of a proxy war. But in the offices of the high authorities, obviously everything is fine, everything is fine! To pink snot.
The ship is certainly necessary, but it must be a military armed ship. For the purposes of patrolling and the poverty of the largest state in the world, it is not even necessary to fully arm it yet.