The first carrier "Poseidon" will be launched before the end of April

The exact date of launching the atomic submarine of the 09582 "Belgorod" project has become known. Attention to this submarine is special. The reason is that the special purpose submarine "Belgorod" will be the first boat of the Russian Navy, which will carry the submarine strategic unmanned aerial vehicle "Poseidon". This was previously reported to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

The TASS news agency reports that the submarine was launched after the withdrawal from the boathouse will be 23 April. Work on the completion of the nuclear submarine is being conducted on Sevmash.

Starting next year, it is planned to start factory running and state tests of the Belgorod nuclear submarine. By the end of 2020, all tests must be completed, and the boat itself will be put into service with the Russian Navy fleet.

Recall that the submarine K-239 "Belgorod" has become a real unfinished. It was laid on Sevmash almost 27 years ago. In the year 1993 got its current name. The interest in the submarine has fueled in recent years precisely the fact that it will become a truly unique submarine equipped with the latest domestic weapons - the Poseidon apparatus, which is capable of causing irreparable damage to the enemy military bases.

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[Separ DNR]

Starting next year, it is planned to begin factory running and state tests of the APSLS "Belgorod". By the end of 2020, all tests must be completed, and the boat itself will be put into service with the Russian Navy.

Then it will be possible to say: "First off!"

[aszzz888]

Separ DNR (Gray) Today, 06: 09 NEW

Hello old man!
I support, and I wish that the rest of the boats come into operation not with such a production time!

[aszzz888]

Even here someone doesn’t want us to have modern boats. gentlemen! your minuses will not affect the military program !!!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: aszzz888

your minuses will not affect the military program !!

such a task is not worth it .... simply - or + .... this attitude to the content of the post, here is yours from the words "hello old man" - evokes the time of the adherents of torquemada ... read on -

Quote: aszzz888

and I wish that the rest of the boats will be put into operation not with such a production time!

a very blurry message ... but with what? 29 years? or 25 years old?
further your quote -

Quote: aszzz888

Even here someone doesn’t want us to have modern boats. gentlemen! your minuses will not affect the military program !!

frank promise of lies, well, firstly, minus does not mean that the author does not want, and your quotes about the minuses are given out by a character who is here exclusively for pluses and titles.
Best regards

[aszzz888]

Tiksi-3 (Dmitry) Today, 08: 55

... PERSONALLY for Tiksi-3 ... there is only one "message" - to shorten the delivery time ... but in general for Tiksi-3 (Dmitry) There are a lot of beeches today, 08:55 ... and no more ... . It’s not my fault that your focus of vision is so narrow that you don’t like how I greet the person. But this is with age, and it will probably pass, I assure you. Although...

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: aszzz888

It’s not my fault that your focus of vision is so narrow that you don’t like how I greet the person.

there is a personal message for this, and in the general chat, the adherents put a bunch of pluses for pumping

[yehat]

there is doubt that Poseidon is part of the military program.
technical characteristics of the complex make you think, maybe an environmental project for budget utilization?

[bald]

Earrings, as you have there, I'm sorry maybe not the topic.

[Vadim237]

But this is not the first carrier, the first one

in the video of MO, Poseidon is launched from her.

[Mountain shooter]

"You are lying, these are cartoons from Mosfilm"!
Well, with an initiative ... Stuff 6 Poseidons on board? A wonderful "antiagressin" is obtained ...

[kepmor]

what forces and means to protect then wake up this "priceless papellats" during deployment and in the area ??? ... or are you going to shoot straight from the pier across America ??? ... where will you take multipurpose for combat stability ??? ... Will you lease China and India ??? ...
at the Pacific Fleet there are 4 SSBNs and 2 SSGNs for one "Kuzbass" suspension ...
on the Northern Fleet there are 3 "living animals" + ash ... the diesel-electric submarines have a situation with the batteries, too, "not ice", and they are only suitable in BMZ when deployed ... in the ocean and under the ice they have nothing to do ...
surface forces of PLO in the Northern Fleet were barbarously destroyed ... 2 worn-out 1155 remained with dense "Polynom" and 85 RU and 2-3 half-dead "Albatros" with "deaf and blind" in the shallow waters of the Barents Sea "Platina" and old TEST-72, SET-65 ... from PLO aviation there are only memories ... there are still several rare aircraft flying with weapons and means of detection, which are already being put on absenteeism in the aviation museum ...
Wars do not win with "super wandering" ... the history of the 3rd Reich confirms this ...

[A1845]

Quote: kepmor

or straight from the pier across America are going to shoot ???.

and for this it is very necessary to build a nuclear missile submarine cruiser for a quarter century

Quote: kepmor

surface forces PLO in the SF barbarously destroyed

one more effort and Kuzma will be left without a dock, then there will be nothing to cover from the air

[yehat]

wars do not win, but short skirmishes are quite
for example, the Falklands or Pearl Harbor.

[bayard]

Alexei, why deploy a carrier in distant seas for a salvo of a "super torpedo" with an unlimited range? You can take out of the base into the near zone under protection (the closest one) and start up. In this zone, both the surface forces and the diesel-electric submarines are quite backing up.
With airplanes, the PLO is certainly sad, but now there is no suitable platform for new boards. The IL-38 is still jerking, but the equipment is being modernized ... The Tu-204 \ 214 is probably a bit heavy as a platform, they want the IL-114, but you can’t fly far ...
And on the surface ... everything is reliable on the Gorshkovs. His GAK seems to be praised.
I myself am an air defense officer, what can you say about Gorshkov's capabilities in PLO?

[bald]

Yes, let them write what they want, you tell Zhenya they are just envious of us, they are behind us and are exactly two hundred years behind, I myself was a developer and I see everything. The states thought that they were the masters and the first hell out there was the USSR and Russia, and Russia would not allow anyone. I'm sorry.

[bald]

Russia is Russia and I am proud of it, just like you.

[Monster_Fat]

One or more underwater vehicles, using modern detection tools, can easily be tracked directly from its base. Here, at VO, there was already a series of articles about the US using new methods of radar-wave detection of submarines, and at any depth.

[K-612-O]

This is some kind of nonsense, at any depth it is not possible. Physics does not allow you to use any frequency signals at large distances in a dense elastic medium, especially with a depth the attenuation coefficient, even of low-frequency oscillations, will block the response, unless repeaters are placed every 1000 meters, and 500 kilometers in distance. And to discover this one (there is an inverse trace, especially in high latitudes). And at depths of over 500 meters there’s nothing to hit. Only if the nuclear warheads are underwater. But the Americans, unlike us, did not make nuclear depth charges.

[YOUR]

It can be detected, but there is nothing to hit.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: K-612-O

But the Americans, unlike us, did not make nuclear depth bombs.

What are you saying :))))) The nuclear depth bomb Mk17, which was put on the old versions of ASROK looks at you with bewilderment :)))

Quote: K-612-O

And at depths above 500 meters already there is nothing to amaze.

Nothing that good old Mk 48 has a depth of defeat to 800 m?

[K-612-O]

Seriously? For Mk48 500 meters the maximum depth with P = 0.7, further the probability of defeat does not provide guaranteed destruction of the target. 0.7 it’s already bad, and the MK17 was withdrawn from service in the early 90s, new ones have not been manufactured since 81 years. And she is British.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: K-612-O

Seriously?

Absolutely

Quote: K-612-O

For Мк48 500 meters, the maximum depth with Р = 0.7, further the probability of hitting does not ensure the guaranteed destruction of the target.

What is solved by an increased outfit of forces, that is, the launch of torpedoes 2-3. By the way, would you be so kind as to tell where you got the info about limit 500 m? :)

Quote: K-612-O

Mk17 retired at the beginning of the 90-s, new were not made with 81 year. And she is British.

First, you wrote

Quote: K-612-O

but the Americans, unlike us, did not make nuclear depth charges.

That is, is / is not in service - this is another matter. And secondly, the 17 Mk is not an English bomb, but the American bomb itself (the warhead of W44), its manufacturer is the United States. In total, the US Department of Energy handed over the 575 W44 to the military. But they had atomic depth charges and before that - Mk.101 Lulu, for example. By the way, I strongly doubt that the W44 is decommissioned, rather simply stockpiled

[Vadim237]

ASROKOV in service with the United States is no more.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Vadim237

ASROKOV in service with the United States is no more.

??? Typical ammunition for Arleigh Burke destroyers Google RUM-139 VLA

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

The nuclear depth bomb Mk17, which was put on old versions of ASROK, looks at you in bewilderment :)))

MK-17, the namesake, was withdrawn from service, if sclerosis doesn’t fail me, in the 60's. MK-24 came to replace it. Yes, and they were created only 200 pieces back in the shaggy 57-58 years. Now it seems that they are armed with the Mk 64 Quickstrike-J and GBU-62 Quickstrike-ER mattresses .... it is quite possible that they can also be equipped with a nuclear charge.

[Monster_Fat]

Read here: https://topwar.ru/149931-im-ne-sprjatatsja.html

[K-612-O]

Regarding the article, she is very abstract. Setting the modes and ensuring the operation of the radar in the low-frequency ranges is not a trivial task, but it comes to naught, at depths from 250-300 meters. The response time increases significantly and it is impossible to accurately calculate the azimuth. And the question does not arise for you why ship radars do not see beyond the horizon and at least at periscope depth, but use sonar, sonar and sonar sonar systems. Elastic dispersion of particles in a large volume of water is a very capricious thing, in this case with the same degree of probability the mixing points of the layers, local vortex flows, the movement of whales and large schools of fish will be detected and accepted as submarines.
More reliable old good IR cameras satellites

[venik]

Quote: K-612-O

This is some kind of nonsense, at any depth it is not possible. Physics does not allow you to use any frequency signals at large distances in a dense elastic medium, especially with the attenuation coefficient, even low-frequency oscillations will block the response

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As far as I remember, there it was just about something else: The fact is that moving (even at great depths) the submarine creates weak disturbances on the surface, which are not detected either visually or with the help of conventional radars. But the use of the latest high-precision radar equipment, combined with high-performance computers, makes it possible, when scanning large enough areas, to reveal these "disturbances" (at least with some degree of reliability) ...

[K-612-O]

What radars are under water ?! Such vibrations of the elastic medium can be detected only by seismic sensors, but their density should be quite high, and the greater the more acute the question of their reliability and the risk of damage from at least air.

[Monster_Fat]

What radars are under water ?!

Ah ... There it is, Mikhalych ... Now, everything is clear ....
"- .. Maybe the monument is there?
- The monument was
- Whose?
“Do I know?” Some guy ..
- With beard? Whiskers?
- Yes, I do not remember .. Oh! In a jacket!
- Sedentary?
- What?
- Sits? Well, this "man"?
- To the village! Who will plant him! He's a monument! Buy a card, bast shoes! "

[venik]

Quote: K-612-O

What radars are under water ?!

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And who said that such radars are installed under water???? They are just located on the funds aerial и space basing!

[spektr9]

Now the famous all-crawler, Mr. Timokhin, will fly in and will prove the futility of this weapon.)

Well, they are not used to it yet - Poseidon is useless, the return of sharks to service is not profitable, it is not expensive to build aircraft carriers in Russia ... Such "experts" advocate only for the coastal fleet and that the latter would be smaller

[Boots]

"Such" experts "advocate only for the coastal fleet and the fact that the latter would be smaller"

And here at once so much. And hypersound, and Poseidon, and missiles with unlimited range. In general, the head of these wonderful experts may first feel dizzy, and then get sick. Or vice versa, first get sick, and then spin.)

[aszzz888]

Recall that the nuclear submarine K-239 Belgorod has become a real unfinished building. It was laid down at Sevmash almost 27 years ago.

Yeah Not that they were tired of waiting, but Crying! But such a boat as never before is needed, because the merikathos is increasingly boring, and therefore understands ONLY strength.

[lonely beryuk]

Initially, when the bookmark was a different project.
They stupidly took the hull from the mortgaged one, and turned it into the current "wunderwaflu".
from the series - "let's take the old case, cut out everything rusty from it and let us introduce the new unknown."

[rotmistr60]

Someone criticizes the Russian army and the Navy every day, while someone works to strengthen the country's defense power every day. So who is more useful? The question is of course exclusively rhetorical.

[bald]

Gennady - exclusively said

[aszzz888]

rotmistr60 (Gennady) Today, 07: 12
+1
Someone criticizes the Russian army and navy every day, while someone works to strengthen the country's defense power every day

You don't have to go far. The site has enough of such "critics" who publish entire articles.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

I was heartily amused by the photograph of "Poseidon" - in fact - an autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicle "Harpsichord-2R-PM".
And the rest ...
Belgorod's data is classified, it is not known what the boat is. But taking into account the fact that, generally speaking, we are talking about the old 3rd generation Antaeus, it is most likely that this ship is not for Poseidon (why does a nuclear-powered torpedo need a carrier?), But for the underwater component of the EGSONPO. That would be nice

[venik]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Belgorod's data is classified, it is not known what the boat is. But taking into account the fact that, generally speaking, we are talking about the old 3rd generation Antaeus, it is most likely that this ship is not for Poseidon (why does a nuclear-powered torpedo need a carrier?), But for the underwater component of the EGSONPO.

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"Belgorod" (modified project 09852) is being completed just as a carrier of "Poseidons" ... And not only them - it is also planned as a carrier of various manned and unmanned underwater vehicles (including rescue vehicles).

[Vadim237]

Then, why and ICBMs need a mine or a mobile launcher.

[jonht]

Nobody will say exactly what the GUGI is doing, and according to the draft data the boat seems to have been remade for the use of existing and promising underwater vehicles, I hope that all the same they made a universal dock camera or something like that.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

I was heartily amused by the photograph of "Poseidon" - in fact - an autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicle "Harpsichord-2R-PM".

Well, yes ... but Poseidon’s photo isn’t all there.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

But given that, generally speaking, we are talking about the old "Antaeus" of the 3rd generation, it is most likely that this ship is not for Poseidon

Belgorod will be modernized -20 December 2012 year re-laid on the project 09852.
At the same time, during the completion and rework, the length of the submarine increased from 154 to 184 meters. This is almost 11 meters longer than the length of the submarines of the 941 Shark project, which are the largest in the world.
Why it was lengthened by so many can only guess.

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

(why does a nuclear-powered torpedo need a carrier?)

Here I am about that. As an option, we had (and still have) the bases for submarines cut down in the rocks, and it was possible to get there only underwater. So what prevents these bases from being converted to a Poseidon storage base, so that from there they can be allowed into operation in the event of a conflict? This is an option.

[bald]

Now let the states in trousers, we are doing business, and not any children’s drawings.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

That's good, another submarine in our ranks will be more.

[Old26]

And why put a photo of "Harpsichord" ????

Quote: Vadim237

in the video of MO, Poseidon is launched from her.

There, in this video, nothing was clear at all. Compartments yes, her, but the "exit" of "Poseidon" is generally not known from where. And most likely from a submerged stand

[Vadim237]

Why then on the video showed the keel of this boat?

[Denis Medveezhikoff]

Hmm ... It was built 27 years ... We began to build a house, then abandoned it, and after 8 years they began to finish building again. So there during this time so much rotted mold. I wonder what condition this boat is in, it’s been building up almost the entire service life ... Something tells me that this is why it is classified ...

[Xscorpion]

In fact, it was laid at the end of 12 years, that is, a little more than 6 years is under construction.

[V1er]

The exact date of launching the nuclear submarine of project 09582 Belgorod has become known.
Recall that the nuclear submarine K-239 Belgorod has become a real unfinished building.

Yeah. And no one noticed that this is project 09852, K-329, and not 09582, K-239 ...

[Vadim237]

Submarines on a special project: Moscow Region, Orenburg, Belgorod, Losharik, Sarov.

[Corsair0304]

Interest in the submarine in recent years has been warmed up precisely by the fact that it will become a truly unique submarine equipped with the latest domestic weapons - the Poseidon apparatus, which is capable of causing irreparable damage to the enemy’s military bases.

It must be assumed that this carrier will be looked after by the Merikos like a nanny of a baby and will track his every movement even at the quay wall. I'd like to believe that our admirals have figured out how to make the launch vehicle exit to the Poseidon launch square.
Well, here's the question: Can our people release Poseidon without starting an active phase of aggression against Russia? And how long can the device stand on "alert" undetected near the bases of sworn friends? Although, most likely no one can answer the second question ..

[Olezhek]

We must assume that this carrier merikosy will take care of as a baby-sitter and track his every movement even at the quay wall.

-1

Someone you managed to upset relaning the uterine truth

[cap830]

He will eat something. But who will give him that? Who will allow to approach the shot? And how to keep this system in constant readiness? And if, as in advertising, there is depth and range and speed and control, then what is the medium for? Build a launcher on some kind of underwater rock .. It's cheaper to anchor. Revived the ancient idea of ​​Sakharov. Dear academician quickly pointed out all the perversity and inefficiency. God be with him, the smartest man, but he didn’t step there. But modern gentlemen, admirals need to feed themselves from the Russian budget.

[Simferopol]

Besides Poseidon, it would be nice to equip it with something else.

[Spiridonovich2]

30 years to build one boat, this is the level of our liberals. The fact that she is already outdated is a fact. But the fact that someday it will be completed is not a fact. Most of our managers, as always competently competently sawed the budget money, and if there is a boat or not, absolutely no one cares or cares.