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Aviakor handed over to the Ministry of Defense of Russia the second An-140

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Yesterday Samara aviation Aviakor plant (part of the Russian Machines Corporation) handed over to the customer the second An-140-100 aircraft manufactured by the enterprise under a contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. The transfer of the aircraft was dedicated to the Day of Remembrance and Sorrow, the anniversary of the start of World War II: The turboprop aircraft will be operated by the Russian Air Force. For three years, Aviakor signed a contract for the production of a series of An-140-100 aircraft with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in May 2011. By the end of 2012, the company’s management plans to supply a number of aircraft to the customer. In addition, a Tu-154M passenger jet, currently being ordered by the Russian Ministry of Defense, is currently being tested at the Samara Aviation Plant.


Aviakor handed over to the Ministry of Defense of Russia the second An-140


Earlier, Aviakor delivered three An-140 airlines to Yakutia. The veterans of Aviakor took part in the ceremony of handing over the An-140-100 aircraft to representatives of the Air Force - on the eve of the Day of Memory and Grief the plant management prepared a solemn program for them, presented flowers and gifts.
The An-140-100 aircraft was created to replace the An-24 and Yak-40 passenger aircraft fleet and the An-26, An-30 and An-32 cargo planes. The aircraft, designed for 52 seats, is a high-plane cantilever with a straight wing of a large elongation of a trapezoidal shape in the plan and single-fin empennage with a fixed stabilizer mounted on the fuselage. The liner is completed with two TVZ-117 VMA-SBM1 turboprop engines located in gondolas under the wing. The motors are equipped with AB-140-100 six-blade reversing screws. The high location of the engines on the wing eliminates the ingress of foreign objects from the runway, which, in combination with low-pressure pneumatic chassis, allows reliable operation of the aircraft even on unpaved runways.

The first flight of the An-140 Russian assembly took place in August 2005.


The Aviakor Samara Aviation Plant carries out mass production of An-140-100 aircraft from 2006. Three such aircraft are successfully operated by the regional airline Yakutia and one in the Russian Defense Ministry.
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  1. taseka
    taseka 23 June 2012 08: 26
    +2
    Russian aviation road to the sky on new planes !!!
    1. 755962
      755962 23 June 2012 12: 34
      +4
      The contract for the production of the An-140-100 series of aircraft for three years
      It's interesting how many boards will be built during this time. And what will happen after the contract expires (2 years left.)
      1. VAF
        VAF 23 June 2012 16: 14
        +5
        Quote: 755962
        I wonder how many boards will be built during this time.


        How much? +! How many -7 pieces in the series, one per year, remain two more years, therefore 2 planes, 5 have already been delivered !!!

        Harboring, the revival of the Russian aviation industry under the strict guidance of Tamdemovsky !!!

        Airbase Cannon (pc. New Mexico) transferred to the seventh aircraft MC-130J Commando II. Aircraft with flight number 5695 is the seventh of eleven MC-130J aircraft intended for the 522nd Special Operations Squadron.

        The start of production of this modification is January 2012 !!!!!!!!

        The squadron uses Commando II aircraft for tasks such as air refueling, evacuation, air transportation, and special operations force supply.



        Earlier this month, the sixth C-17 Globemaster III military transport aircraft was handed over to the Boeing factory in Log Beach at the Boeing plant in the company, according to a June 20 press release from the company. The delivery completes the contract concluded on January 6, 2010 for the supply of six aircraft to the UAE. Boeing handed over to the UAE the fourth C-17 in 2011 and the fifth aircraft in May.

        The pace of aircraft production is about 20-25 units per year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




        Boeing supplied 244 S-17 aircraft, including 216 for the Air Force, National Guard and US Air Force Reserve. A total of 28 S-17 aircraft were delivered to Australia, Canada, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and 12 participating countries of the Strategic Airlift Capability initiative of NATO and Partnership for Peace nations program. ) India ordered 10 S-17 aircraft with delivery in 2013 and 2014.

        1. datur
          datur 23 June 2012 20: 31
          0
          veteran.air forceand nobody destroyed them, and didn’t nullify them like our aviation industry! so for the reviving our power, the pace is not so bad !!!
          1. Railways
            Railways 23 June 2012 20: 35
            +1
            Yeah yeah not bad good
            1. VAF
              VAF 23 June 2012 20: 52
              +4
              Quote: RailWays
              Yeah yeah not bad


              And here, howling is incomprehensible ????

              Or have we already adopted the Su-30 and Su-35 ????

              Did I notice something?

              The fact that the T-50 tests, so thank God, but this is the test so far, but what to fight on ????

              I am very glad that .....



              And also I can play approvingly .....



              But if you do not want to see a real picture of what is actually happening, what is being done and what is happening, then ..... call ..... we have different opinions and visions of this issue!

              Of course, maybe you know better ... good luck!
          2. VAF
            VAF 23 June 2012 20: 45
            +3
            Quote: datur
            But nobody destroyed them, and didn’t nullify them as our aviation industry


            I honestly did not understand ???? She, that, our aircraft industry itself died, perhaps ... from old age ???

            Quote: datur
            so for the reviving our power, the pace is not so bad !!!


            Is this any kind of election slogan?

            Honestly, I’m not kidding, but I just don’t understand that a good pace is one small transport plane a year ... is this a good pace ???
  2. wolk71
    wolk71 23 June 2012 09: 01
    -1
    Not only new, but the latest !!!
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 23 June 2012 09: 13
      +5
      Quote: wolk71
      Not only new, but the latest !!!

      It's time to swing. Judging by the latest military conflicts, the role of aviation becomes dominant. We can !!!
      1. mind1954
        mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 01
        +1
        WE CAN SOMETHING SOMETHING AND CAN !!!
        BUT THEY DO NOT WANT !!!!
  3. pribolt
    pribolt 23 June 2012 09: 23
    +1
    They seem to work, otherwise the people here are shouting "aircraft engineering is dying" but no good
    1. wolk71
      wolk71 23 June 2012 09: 35
      0
      Who is screaming? Those who do not need a strong Russia, or do not see everything that is being done for the good.
      1. VAF
        VAF 23 June 2012 16: 25
        +4
        Quote: wolk71
        Those who do not need a strong Russia, or do not see everything that is being done for the good.


        Hey, the strongest, well, please ignorance of the proset, what is still being done for the good, especially now ????? for aviation I mean ????

        And then I’ve been something since 1985, after the arrival of Mechny and further ..... well, I just can’t see THIS GOOD .... for aviation ????

        Only specifically, without slogans and .... listing empty promises !!!
        1. Srgsoap
          Srgsoap 24 June 2012 00: 45
          +2
          veteran I support all your posts on the topic ... ++++++++ The words themselves have no ... Current .....
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 23 June 2012 14: 14
      +5
      Quote: pribolt
      They seem to work, otherwise the people here are shouting "aircraft engineering is dying" but no

      You are greatly mistaken, the aircraft industry does not die, but it was deliberately killed and continue to kill. It is ridiculous even to compare the aircraft industry of the times of the USSR and the present. Design bureaus were killed, production facilities were killed, cooperative ties were disrupted, which were scattered across different countries. What survived survived not thanks to, but in spite of (on enthusiasm, without government support) and survived in a "wounded" state. So it's too early to shout URYA, it's better to really look at the aircraft fleet and the speed of its renewal. The money is just starting to flow, and in a year it is difficult to restore what was destroyed and plundered for 20 years recourse
      1. wolk71
        wolk71 23 June 2012 15: 09
        -1
        Why is it always compared with the USSR? The USSR had 14 republics and the Warsaw Treaty, but now who is Russia?
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 23 June 2012 15: 14
          +5
          Quote: wolk71
          Why is it always compared with the USSR? The USSR had 14 republics and the Warsaw Treaty, but now who is Russia?

          And with what to compare with the Russian Empire and 1913? You can, of course, start off from this and stay in euphoria ... Civil aviation industry in ... opera, military circle Su and Poghosyan, the fact that horror is going on in helicopter construction, with good practices they "ruin" each other with a competitive struggle ("Black Shark" ). Those who can roll over their developments, those "float", while actively drowning the rest. Okay, I’m gone, I’ll go get a glass of tea drinks
          1. VAF
            VAF 23 June 2012 16: 38
            +1
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Okay, I’ve split up, I’ll go for a glass of tea


            Lyosha, but I already had a sip and will continue for you, +! drinks
          2. wolk71
            wolk71 23 June 2012 16: 47
            -7
            Just yelling and popping, drunks. They drank the whole of Russia and are looking for those to blame for whom to blame.
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 23 June 2012 16: 52
              +6
              Quote: wolk71
              That's just yelling and popping

              Pension, fought in due time ... If I have to, then I will go to defend my homeland, but for now I "shout and burst" wink
              Quote: wolk71
              They drank the whole of Russia and are looking for those to blame for whom to blame.

              I know the perpetrators, but "hands are short." I don't want to blame anyone, and why not

              Quote: wolk71
              drunks

              I try not to minus, but here I will gladly put it to you. Maybe learn not to offend people "behind the screen" without knowing them and not being afraid to get hit
              1. wolk71
                wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 01
                -6
                In real life, I’m not afraid to receive, I can treat myself to the hare.
                1. VAF
                  VAF 23 June 2012 17: 27
                  +4
                  Quote: wolk71
                  I can treat myself to a hara.


                  And "mogushka" has grown .... you are our patriotic ???? Umishkom then, do not seem to shine ???? lol

                  I’m silent about any knowledge .......

                  1. wolk71
                    wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 29
                    -11%
                    So be quiet and don’t yap, but better to the moderators please wink , not the first time for you.
                    1. VAF
                      VAF 23 June 2012 17: 42
                      +3
                      Quote: wolk71
                      So be quiet and don’t yap, but better to the moderators please


                      Who to complain about ... you ...... ???? So this is just a dirty hand ... do not wash off later !!!



                      A Woodpecker .... he is in Africa .... Woodpecker .......... am
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 23 June 2012 17: 34
                  +4
                  wolk71
                  You are a poorly educated young man!
                  1. wolk71
                    wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 38
                    -6
                    I normally communicate with normal people, just some did not like my comments and my opinions
                    1. wolk71
                      wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 43
                      -6
                      Just wrote a message and minus. The generals and marshals are furious, let them rage ............... laughing wink
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 23 June 2012 17: 44
                      +5
                      Those whom you are trying to insult are very worthy people!
                      And worthy of respect, if only because they did not change their conscience!
                      I am not even talking about their service to their homeland !!
                      And who do you think are normal people ??
                      Hamov?
                      I’m also minus you, because I will not accept vyzhivaniya through the monitor!
                      1. wolk71
                        wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 49
                        -5
                        And what are they worthy of? And why should I respect them? In addition to insults, I didn’t read anything good from them, but the fact that they supposedly served the Motherland honestly, so you can write anything you want. Through the monitor, I do not curry favor. I didn’t start first. And for personal skirmishes, I’m not negative, although I am not interested in the rating, and I don’t practice minus.
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 23 June 2012 17: 56
                        +6
                        look at the beginning of the dialogue !!
                        I came from the side and saw your rudeness towards honored people!
                        If you have nothing to respect these people for, then you need to fight against the wall!
                        Ugly on your part!
                        and throw this your kindergarten not you first started !!
                        If you are an adult, you will find the courage to apologize for your words!
                      3. wolk71
                        wolk71 23 June 2012 18: 00
                        -6
                        Who made them deserved? I don’t apologize to scum and you go with God.
                      4. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 23 June 2012 18: 13
                        +3
                        You know, I have a younger brother called Abdul!
                        Usually I take it with me to the market and often wherever I go I take it with me !!
                        When I meet such boors like you, then I give him the opportunity to practice at such!
                        Since at my age it is no longer solid!
                        I'd love to see your courage, but I understand that we are too far away!
                        Shame on you!
              2. mind1954
                mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 22
                +1
                Do you have any opinions ?! Share please!
          3. viktor_ui
            viktor_ui 23 June 2012 19: 17
            +5
            read the posts that people are already retired .... you probably already lined up, who are you going to knock on the tambourine ???
        2. VAF
          VAF 23 June 2012 17: 33
          +6
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Maybe learn not to offend people "behind the screen" without knowing them and not being afraid to get hit


          Lesh, why did you start playing "democracy" with him ???? +! drinks lol recourse

          This is absolutely useless and in vain, because ignorance, ignorance and stupidity are attractive because you don’t need to do anything, everything is so good - you can continue to live on ..... and eat Chupa-Chups !!!. wassat .

          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 23 June 2012 17: 38
            +5
            Quote: veteran.air force
            , why did you start playing "democracy" with him ????

            Serge, I lowered his rating in the profile and went through the minuses, because how rudeness should be punished. I’m not going to argue and discuss with an idiot.
            If he (the Wolf) had not had a she-wolf for a long time and they press on the brain, then let him go to the doctors, and he began to bark laughing
            The easiest way is to blame everyone around, but he is "white and fluffy", well, and when he took us to the Navalny, the Nemtsovs as friends ... Clinic fool
            1. wolk71
              wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 45
              -9
              Don’t be shy, otherwise you’ll burst with rabies, idiot laughing
            2. VAF
              VAF 23 June 2012 17: 47
              +6
              Quote: Aleksey67
              Serge, I lowered his rating in the profile and went through the minuses, because how rudeness should be punished. I’m not going to argue and discuss with an idiot.


              Lesh ...... I beg you .... made laugh ...... well, I’ll have to pay another fifty dollars ..... drinks

              Where did you see or saw the wolf ????? request

              Chicken .... plucked and ... not even wet anymore lol

              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 23 June 2012 17: 50
                +4
                Dear Sergey!
                From the chicken at least what is good, edible, but then I don’t even know!
      2. VAF
        VAF 23 June 2012 17: 23
        +8
        Quote: wolk71
        Just yelling and popping, drunks.


        I have every right ... 26 years in the sovereign service ... with all that it implies ... and ..two sovereigns marked ..... !!!


        Quote: wolk71
        They drank the whole of Russia and are looking for those to blame for whom to blame.


        And about the guilty ... so. Please ... I will begin to educate ... illiterate .... !!!

        In 1942, after one of the bombings, the Saratov Aviation Plant was practically destroyed.

        It was even about stopping production.

        But the front was approaching Stalingrad, and Yakovlev's fighters were desperately needed.

        Therefore, the plant was restored as soon as possible.

        Now, as far as I know, there is neither a war of Hitler’s war, but what yours did ..... icon-like and radiant ...... we just look further:







        And this .... has not yet had time to ... "reform"! ..... it has been worth it since the war ... and worked ....

      3. Tersky
        Tersky 23 June 2012 21: 19
        +1
        Quote: wolk71
        Just yelling and popping, drunks. They drank the whole of Russia and are looking for those to blame for whom to blame.

        Wow ..., well, I can’t miss such a great post. Can I ask a question? I understand you are a narcologist with a developed extrasensory perception? Otherwise, how can you determine from the comment of a person that he is a drunk and a glutton. Or let's call a spade a spade, it's just blatant rudeness and insult. And Russia is not the people spent on drink, guess at one time who? Here for the drunks, for the "drunk" Russia and the corresponding sign "-", I really hate Hamsta ...
      4. mind1954
        mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 19
        -3
        Well, people like YOU will definitely save her !!!
  4. smile
    smile 23 June 2012 15: 34
    +1
    wolk71
    Here. damn .... only twenty years have passed, and the people have already forgotten. how many republics in the USSR ..... IN THE USSR WAS FIFTEEN REPUBLIC! ....... sad ........
    1. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 16: 40
      +7
      Quote: smile
      Here. damn .... only twenty years have passed, and the people have already forgotten.


      But such a people knows well what TNT, House-2 and all that like !!! !!! +! drinks

      And what did you want another ... what leaders ... such and such people .... very sad ... crying

      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 23 June 2012 16: 57
        +4
        Quote: veteran.air force
        ..what leaders

        Seryozha, how Anka the machine gunner has changed ... belay
        1. VAF
          VAF 23 June 2012 17: 53
          +1
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Seryozha, how Anka the machine gunner has changed ..


          Lyosha ..... now we’ll go over to the women again .... although this is normal .... but they may not understand again ... like last time, remember ????





          Well, without our police, forgive the police, you know ... I just can’t ... pass by !!!

          1. smile
            smile 23 June 2012 18: 25
            0
            veteran.air force
            And what is bad about women? And who didn’t like something about women there? Strange .... But women still paint the form ... just not field.
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 23 June 2012 18: 29
              +1
              Quote: smile
              And what is bad about women?

              Everything is only good. winked
              Quote: smile
              .A women still color form

              Serega posted a photo where ladies "painted" only shoulder straps. The stars on the shoulder straps matched the size of the chest lol
              Quote: smile
              And to whom is there something

              Modera rubbed laughing
              1. smile
                smile 23 June 2012 18: 49
                +3
                Aleksey67
                Here, damn it, dosssad. but I did not see .... always suspected. that there is something not very good in the moderators :))))) they are also women. It turns out they do not like, and who are they after that? ......
                .... Dear Sirs, the moderators officially declare that this is not about you. adored. that’s me ... it's just that I love and respect you ... and yet, you can’t beat me - I'm good, here!
              2. smile
                smile 23 June 2012 19: 38
                +3
                Aleksey67
                Oh, again they were blown away - miracles. and only! it seems that there is a hidden sexist society!
                1. Aleksey67
                  Aleksey67 23 June 2012 19: 45
                  +3
                  Quote: smile
                  Oh, again they were blown away - miracles. and only! it seems that there is a hidden sexist society!

                  No, you're just your posts

                  Here. damn .... only twenty years have passed, and the people have already forgotten. how many republics in the USSR ..... IN THE USSR WAS FIFTEEN REPUBLIC! ....... sad ........

                  и
                  wolk71
                  Look at your comment, it says - the USSR had 14 republics ... how else can this be understood? You are probably. just made a mistake. I understand it. I’m mistaken myself.
                  But I don’t understand. Why are you starting to scandal? the reason for the dispute is nonsense, in any case it does not attract scandal .... it is not clear ... you are wrong.

                  Touch the subtle feelings of a forum member under a nickname wolk71, and he first promoted you under this nickname, and then created a clone under the nickname
                  vetera air force, and promoted repeatedly.
                  But the child is not entirely smart, and therefore "burned"
                2. smile
                  smile 24 June 2012 04: 04
                  +3
                  Aleksey67 Abaldeeeeeee! And not too lazy !!! well, and who is he after that, if not this one ... who hates women! ... how is it ... well, you understand. and this .... I hope I also understood.
                3. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 24 June 2012 07: 40
                  +3
                  Alexei, I did not think that the last time you really learned about the cons, now I see it was wrong!
                  Amazed by your attentiveness !!))
                4. wolk71
                  wolk71 24 June 2012 13: 54
                  -3
                  Guys, this is too much, I did not create any clones. To be honest, I’m already tired of this skirmish with you. I forgot about it yesterday, but you and your friends cannot calm down anyway and still minus me indiscriminately. And who is not quite smart? Not tired yet?

                  "veteran.air force" is my friend, not my clone.
              3. VAF
                VAF 23 June 2012 20: 59
                +1
                Quote: smile
                it seems that there is a hidden sexist society!


                Vladimir, don’t pay attention, there are two more from the squad of approbations drawn from above on the tape, so pay attention to everyone, well, they always were and will be ... the guy from Nizhny Tagil fussed about it in time, was in the workshop now almost a boyar in the Sverdlovsk province, but it was all that was necessary ... in time to fuss in advance and inform that we would now drive up from the waal and ... sort it out ......

                That would have caught somewhere ... so a hack would have crossed the ridge ... from the heart ..... for ... everyone !!!
              4. smile
                smile 24 June 2012 04: 07
                +2
                veteran.air force Yes, they are not worth attention ... I'm so kidding. I don’t get tired of wondering .....
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 24 June 2012 07: 44
              +1
              Vladimir take the minus philosophically, although Omar recently wrote the right thing, that it psychologically affects people and counts on it a lot, the one who creates a lot of nicknames to minus!))
              I used to be surprised in one koment of 6 minuses, and the rating is growing !!))
            3. smile
              smile 24 June 2012 11: 26
              +2
              Yarbay
              Yes, I calmly relate to them. And about the presence of a bunch of minuses, but a growing rating - it happens to me. But whatever that means, he didn’t get it. I thought it was late.
      2. VAF
        VAF 23 June 2012 18: 49
        +5
        Quote: smile
        And what is bad about women? And who didn’t like something about women there?


        Vladimir, so I always thought the same and I think that in the babkkh, i.e. there is nothing wrong with women and this is an integral part of our life ... it’s just that the case was the same on the aviation topic, but no, the T = 90 exhibition in Paris, well, they smoothly switched to airplanes ... and girls, so there are some .. .will not point a finger, we were indignant and minus everything that turned a serious article into a booth and ... a brothel !!!

        If they are really beautiful ....


        And while still curious .....


        And in addition, they don’t ... mow ... from military service
        1. smile
          smile 23 June 2012 19: 03
          +2
          veteran.air force
          I agree with him. that a normal woman will not be called a normal woman by a woman - I’m joking ... and the photos are really beautiful .... why minus something? tomorrow I’ll surely get to see it - maybe my FAVORITES are not all the beauty (is it. I hope it will count towards me in the frying pan?) the moderators chopped off ... By the way, the 1st photo in yesterday’s article about women in Tsakhal struck me! Just a masterpiece!
          1. smile
            smile 23 June 2012 19: 35
            +2
            smile
            Oops ........ gentlemen, who so discreetly deigned to disagree with me? No, I repent, if my addictions hurt someone ... there’s no one to repent of. and so I want to make amends .... Call the buglers !!!! Gulchatai. open your face !!!! Well, please ..... eh ... does not come out. something stone flower ....
        2. Muxalet
          Muxalet 23 June 2012 22: 47
          +3
          They are really beautiful ......... wink
        3. mind1954
          mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 30
          +3
          Everything, just, charm !!! Thank ! Here I am pleased!
          1. Muxalet
            Muxalet 24 June 2012 21: 14
            +1
            That's not all ... SHE is also a pilot ...!
        4. pribolt
          pribolt 24 June 2012 03: 03
          +2
          Beautiful cadets with AK especially on the right good
    2. mind1954
      mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 28
      0
      What a gazelle! Just amazing!
      And why, only, I'm not a masochist? !!
  5. smile
    smile 23 June 2012 18: 22
    0
    Aleksey67
    And that - everything is normal - fashion ... unisex, neither a man is a woman ... not a child. but not an adult .... though. Of course, this fish is not meat, not EBN.
  6. Tersky
    Tersky 23 June 2012 23: 10
    +3
    Quote: Aleksey67
    how the Anka the machine gunner has changed.

    Yeah, matured beyond recognition ... and a little coat from Yudash, in figure .... took a break on the Chinese market ....
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 23 June 2012 22: 47
    +2
    Quote: veteran.air force
    And what did you want another ... what leaders ... such and the people ..

    It’s probably put to the wall those who built the road in Primorye.
    As for the aircraft industry, at least they started to do something, so that the factories would probably live out to better times, on the other hand, the planes are hard work to do, and the exhaust is in doubt, why, if oil can be gas, or, at worst, build a road. AND wolk71 people are not indifferent to the Russian aviation industry; well, this is already good in my opinion.
    1. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 23: 07
      +1
      Quote: saturn.mmm
      And wolk71 people are not indifferent to the Russian aviation industry; well, this is already good in my opinion.


      You certainly have the right to have an opinion, but:
      1. This subject, because he can’t even be called a person. He has a concept about the aviation industry, it’s about the same as me in ballet, but I probably still understand more about ballet!
      2. Once again, carefully read everything that I wrote about the current state of the aviation industry, just not missing anything, maybe then you will understand, but if not, then .... well, you have the right!
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 24 June 2012 00: 12
        +2
        Quote: veteran.air force
        . Once again, carefully read everything that I wrote about the current state of the aviation industry, just not missing anything, maybe then you will understand, but if not, then .... well, you have the right!

        As for the aviation industry in your comments, I completely agree with this. I carefully read your comments and believe that in the field of aviation on the site, they are the best.
        I was just trying to express that children need to be patiently raised and taught.
        Some are carried away by house-2, and some by military observation.
        1. VAF
          VAF 24 June 2012 00: 56
          +5
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Some are carried away by house-2, and some by military observation.


          Michael, entirely +! and it’s necessary to teach and educate, especially those who are interested in military review so it’s not a question ... but this is a miracle ... Once again you carefully read everything from the beginning and look at how events developed .... it is polite from our side. correctly, with a bit of irony and humor, but in return ... I won’t list ... you will see for yourself ....

          Despite the fact that I exchanged the 7th dozen, sick as an old deck, I still go to the gym and have 120 kg of chest, and with the steward it’s already a pyramid into the light, while I remove the bar myself !!!
          It’s true that I’m limping and therefore I go with a hook ... but it’s not a hindrance, so if I had such a thing in my way and my mouth opened with such words ... then at least I would be lisp for the rest of my life!
          In how I suffered!

          Children who want to know something or are interested are usually asked!

          For some reason, I’m not embarrassed to ask someone on the forum what I don’t know, but here ..... a funny bull ... is trying to ... drill something ... Vasenka ....
          I will explain to him at a time why in Odessa rubyroit .... so I will. that they didn’t give it in one beer house .... loshara bespontovy .... foliage rustles out of season ....

          This is our guys so communicate in the area ....

          So this subject spoiled the mood very ...
          That's basically it .. on this topic
    2. wolk71
      wolk71 24 June 2012 08: 01
      -2
      I work as an enterprise that produces components for aviation and missile defense systems.
  • mind1954
    mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 24
    +1
    Apparently, he imagined how he was shooting at the wall of the Communists!
  • wolk71
    wolk71 23 June 2012 16: 48
    -6
    The RSFSR had how many neighbors?
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 23 June 2012 16: 54
      +2
      Quote: wolk71
      How many neighbors did Russia have?

      And what has become less? Someone "died"?
      What is the question and why is it asked? belay
      The RSFSR had how many neighbors?

      I changed the interpretation and the question began to look even dumber. The RSFSR had fraternal republics !!! (14 republics). Brothers and sisters are not neighbors !!!! fool
      1. wolk71
        wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 04
        -6
        What not to answer, are you mad?
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 23 June 2012 17: 08
          +1
          Quote: wolk71
          What not to answer

          To wait for an answer, you need to at least start by asking a normal question laughing
          Quote: wolk71
          freaking out?

          I am laughing.
          1. wolk71
            wolk71 23 June 2012 17: 32
            -6
            Are you laughing at yourself? laughing
    2. smile
      smile 23 June 2012 18: 37
      +1
      wolk71
      Look at your comment, it says - the USSR had 14 republics ... how else can this be understood? You are probably. just made a mistake. I understand it. I’m mistaken myself.
      But I don’t understand. Why are you starting to scandal? the reason for the dispute is nonsense, in any case it does not attract scandal .... it is not clear ... you are wrong.
      1. vetera air force
        vetera air force 23 June 2012 19: 07
        -2
        Yes, not wolk71, but your friends, in my opinion, attacked him, and he answered. It seems to me.
      2. Splin
        Splin 23 June 2012 20: 55
        +1
        Quote: smile
        it says - the USSR had 14 republics ...

        [I was also recently asked to list all republics of the USSR by pamyat. And I called 14 !. I know that there are 15 of them, but I can’t remember one. Here they are 20 years in different apartments!
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 23 June 2012 21: 33
          +3
          Quote: Splin
          [I was also recently asked to list all republics of the USSR by pamyat. And I called 14!

          Let me remind you: According to the Constitution of the USSR 1977 of the year (Ch. 8, Art. 71), the republics of the Soviet Union are located in the following order:
          RSFSR
          Ukrainian SSR
          The Byelorussian SSR
          Uzbek SSR
          Kazakh SSR
          The Georgian SSR
          Azerbaijan SSR
          Lithuanian SSR
          The Moldavian SSR
          The Latvian SSR
          The Kirghiz SSR
          The Tajik SSR
          Armenian SSR
          The Turkmen SSR
          Estonian SSR Moreover, many when calculating are mistaken in the RSFSR, they miss laughing
          1. Splin
            Splin 23 June 2012 21: 36
            +1
            So can I. I was asked this lively and without preparation. And I could not remember Kyirgizia.
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 23 June 2012 23: 15
              +2
              Quote: Splin
              So can I. I was asked this lively and without preparation.

              I answered live without preparation, I just have a good memory for such things, and I was born and raised in the USSR wink
              1. Splin
                Splin 23 June 2012 23: 44
                +2
                And I have since. I remember the anthem of the USSR from the first class by heart. I know Ukrainian - three lines. Once upon a time you had to teach with fighters. but something did not go awry. The charter of the guard service and I remember it better.
              2. VAF
                VAF 24 June 2012 01: 02
                +1
                Quote: Splin
                I know Ukrainian - three lines


                It’s a normal language, but when many were left in Ukraine during the partition, especially from old people, well, already soon retirement, families, children, studies, work, so they began to master ... and especially radio ... mother dear.

                And I remember all the time I wanted to go to Perucarnia to get a haircut, and on the signboard of Gudziki this locker could stand watching for half an hour !!! +! drinks
              3. Splin
                Splin 24 June 2012 06: 00
                +2
                I mean - the Ukrainian anthem. I speak the language perfectly. Although it’s not my native, it absolutely does not cause an attempt on my use in men. I can freely switch to it in a conversation.
              4. VAF
                VAF 24 June 2012 11: 47
                +1
                Quote: Splin
                I speak the language perfectly.


                Well, it would be strange if you live in the country and do not know the national language? +! drinks But I, unfortunately, only talk, but in conversation not really.
                Although in the eastern regions, and in the center, the language is generally a mixture pure only on TV and in print media.
                But in the Western region, yes, there is already Ukrainian-Polish-Romanian, so if they speak the local dialect, then without a local boy you can "fornicate"! drinks
              5. Splin
                Splin 24 June 2012 18: 28
                +1
                It is very comfortable. With it, you can understand almost all Slavic languages. Those who own Belarusian in the same position. These are the central Slavic languages. Well, also Bulgarian in the same status. But the Pole or Czech is hard to understand Russian. The link is lost.
      3. VAF
        VAF 24 June 2012 00: 59
        +1
        Quote: Tersky
        I answered live without preparation,


        Vitya, +! That’s how they taught it at that time ... EG wasn’t there then, it's me for school !!
  • VAF
    VAF 23 June 2012 16: 36
    +3
    Quote: wolk71
    But who is Russia now?


    Well, not who, but what ... or to the extreme ... with what remained .... you are our patriotic !!!

    What are you left with? yes, practically with what they were with ... Antonov’s design bureau just left, but TAPOiCh, but they themselves got into a fight with the Antonovites, because We look more at Makaronnikov, but to buy production in Tashkent ... after all, do you have to think about this ???

    And what did they do themselves .... gave birth to the UAC monster, under the strict guidance of Pogasyan, who practically killed all the design bureaus, devoting himself to the "foreign-domestic" Super-Duper-Jet !!!

    Yes, I reoriented the release of all aviation products almost exclusively for export, but for myself .... pathetic leftovers !!!
    1. wolk71
      wolk71 23 June 2012 16: 58
      -6
      Well, who doesn’t kill then, maybe your friends Navalny, Nemtsov, Kasparov? Something really real for the army began to be done, and that is not okay. With you gentlemen, generals and marshals of the site, everything is clear, the only thing you need is to get a rating. It is not important to write about the case or not, the main thing is to show your patriotism, although it is actually false, and that they would instruct the pluses with a hot hand. Read your comments, nonsense and nonsense and kindergarten. They made garbage from the site. And then there are the first comment comments in bold cipher, so that they would pay attention and instruct the pluses. And now MINUS, bullshit with a patriotic face, I do not mind. wink
  • datur
    datur 23 June 2012 20: 33
    +1
    wolk71, so even then and now the main fiddle was played by Russia, and this damn soyuznichkov pulled it up! and now we are alone, but nothing sdyuzhim- not the first time !!!!! RUSSIANS DO NOT GIVE UP !!!!!!!!!
    1. wolk71
      wolk71 24 June 2012 07: 50
      -1
      So it is true, but the number of factories was greater, plus the sale of weapons, volumes were larger and there were no oligarchs. How much they raked people's money, you can arm more than one army.
  • mind1954
    mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 18
    0
    Who, who ??? As one friend of mine said, A HORSE IN A COAT !!!
  • VAF
    VAF 23 June 2012 16: 31
    +3
    Quote: Aleksey67
    You are very mistaken, the aircraft industry does not die, and it was deliberately killed and continues to be killed.


    Lesha, ++++++ !!!!! More than plus !!!!! drinks
  • VAF
    VAF 23 June 2012 16: 22
    +7
    Quote: pribolt
    and then the people here are all shouting "aircraft engineering is dying" but no


    But no ... in the sense that ????? One small plane a year ????

    Or take an example from the Fleet, since for them there are only small boats, then for the Air Force only small planes ???

    Ah ... no ... we will later ..... we’ll do modernized-refotted bombers !!!!

    URYAYAYAYAYAYAYA !!!!! Long live the Russian aviation industry, "revived" under the strict leadership ....... !!!

    I warn you, the photo is not PHOTOSHOP, but everything is very real !!!



  • mind1954
    mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 11
    +2
    It would be very useful for you to visit, as well as approve wolk71,
    several defense industry enterprises, as I had to do,
    after reduction and work as a security guard, electrician, etc.,
    wanted to return to the profession. It would be better not to do it.
    One frustration, you would see this deplorable state.
    And all your doubts would have disappeared, and the approval would have shut up !!!
    1. wolk71
      wolk71 24 June 2012 07: 55
      -3
      mind1954, I work at a military-industrial complex. And what is this word "approved"
  • 77bor1973
    77bor1973 23 June 2012 09: 43
    +1
    And I thought that the Samara plant was "that"!
    1. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 16: 46
      +4
      Quote: 77bor1973
      And I thought that the Samara plant "that"


      And I thought correctly, almost ... of that !!!

      Samara "Aviakor - Aviation Plant" remains with its problems

      It became known that the negotiations on the inclusion of Aviakor - Aviation Plant OJSC into the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), announced since 2008, have been announced, Samaratudey reports. Previously, the debts of the enterprise were called a stumbling block.
      Now, apparently, the Samara site does not fit into the sphere of production interests of the UAC.

      Whether such negotiations will resume is unknown.
      According to experts, the Samara plant could occupy a special niche in the market and engage in non-serial production of special equipment for the military and the FSB.

      If the plant does not receive new state contracts, then, upon completion of the current supplies, the Ministry of Defense will be in a critical situation.

      One plane for the whole plant ........ and around ......... and silence !!!

      1. 77bor1973
        77bor1973 24 June 2012 00: 07
        +3
        What is there to be surprised, yesterday I went to a familiar turner at the army auto repair shop, asked him to turn the adapter onto a breather, went into the workshop, and there was one lathe, everything else was sold ...
  • bremest
    bremest 23 June 2012 10: 38
    +3
    It is necessary to increase the production capacity of aviation. It is necessary to introduce a ban on the operation of foreign aircraft flying more than 80 hours. And then the news will not be "a second plane", but 000 planes.
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 24 June 2012 02: 15
      +2
      Introduce Native !!! With all my soul with you!
      My would, I would have entered something else !!!
  • nycsson
    nycsson 23 June 2012 11: 39
    +1
    It's time to replace this AN-26! No one flew on it? Very impressive.......! laughing Although the car is reliable, how old are they, and everyone is working!
    1. VAF
      VAF 24 June 2012 01: 06
      +2
      Quote: nycsson
      No one flew on it? Very impressive.......!


      They drove me ... when you stand in the cockpit and wearing headphones, it is normal, but in the cabin ... for half an hour and you take the "helmet" (ZSH) out of the bag and put on ... ... the feeling of the sound in the cabin ... non-transmittable both in frequency and in level ...

      Dushman is a dushman, but a hard worker ...!
  • welesson
    welesson 23 June 2012 13: 50
    +5
    It is a pity to upset the optimists, but Aviakor has been “dying” for many years, resold, reorganized, and laid off. I saw the assembly shop for this aircraft. Against the background of the plant - this is a drop, if not in the sea, then in a bucket for sure. Here, after all, TU-95 was produced, .. TU 134, 154 was a civilian consumer goods, and now they are almost corn workers, but with such pathos. God forbid, this order will help keep the plant afloat, and then you look and serious work will appear, we have been waiting for a long time.
  • Nechai
    Nechai 23 June 2012 14: 00
    +4
    Quote: pribolt
    and then the people here are all shouting "aircraft engineering is dying" but no

    Quote: 77bor1973
    And I thought that the Samara plant was "that"!

    Like small children. Read carefully:
    First flight An-140 Russian assembly held in August 2005 year.
    Samara Aviation Plant Aviakor carries out serial production of An-140-100 aircraft since 2006. Three such aircraft are successfully operated by the regional airline of Yakutia and one in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
    Count 5 cars in six years, counting this one .... Juggling with the terms "produced" - "assembled". Aviakor is an aircraft factory, at best. Here is the furniture of your choice, build even something, please. There was a thorough flock on this "plant" here a few months ago. With eloquent illustrations ...
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 23 June 2012 14: 21
      +4
      Quote: Nechai
      The first flight of the An-140 of the Russian assembly took place in August 2005. Samara Aviation Plant Aviakor has been mass-producing the An-140-100 aircraft since 2006. Three of these aircraft are successfully operated by the regional airline of Yakutia and one in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Count for six years

      Valera, hello! There are many here on the news, like fools for candy wrappers, and the release of the next tractor or truck turns into screams about the revival of the army and Russia, and the fact that we are starting to drive money to the West supporting the French, Italian, Finnish, Israeli ship-tank - the auto structure passes by " brain. " We use Russian money to support the economy of our potential opponents. This is done deliberately or due to the fact that they themselves have "collapse" and really cannot, here the question is ...
    2. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 17: 01
      +4
      Quote: Nechai
      There was a thorough flock on this "plant" here a few months ago. With eloquent illustrations ...


      Valery, welcome, +! So for this you need to read, and even think at the same time, and if you do it, then there will be no time left for settling down and slogans !!!

      The whole problem is that in the highest echelons of power today, however, as before, since 1991, an organized group has been operating, which is not only criminally indifferent to the fate of the Russian aviation industry, but for all 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, it has been intensively promoting foreign aircraft manufacturers.

      I will immediately answer the question: why is the aviation industry so important that it needs to be given such special attention?
      What we just do not collapse - microelectronics, machine tools, automotive, etc. - but why are we so clinging to aviation?

      The thing is that, due to the special importance of aviation to ensure the transport unity of Russia (with its gigantic distances), the elimination of aircraft construction means the elimination of domestic mechanical engineering in general and industry in general, along with the engineering corps as such, as well as the final sliding of Russia into a number deindustrialized, wild countries.

      It is the aviation industry at the beginning of the XNUMXst century that is the unique industry that is the only one capable of ensuring the retention of industrial culture and the very ability for Russia to produce high-quality products that are globally competitive.

      The cessation of the production of their own aircraft will inevitably entail the suspension of related industries - instruments, equipment, maintenance systems, spare parts, etc., which will hit the space industry and the military-industrial complex as a whole.

      In other words, after the aviation industry, the entire technosphere of the country will finally collapse. Like a house of cards !!!!

      All this, coupled with the general collapse of the Russian aviation industry (despite the victorious reports that the country has been “reborn” for 11 years already thanks to the brilliant policy of the “Party and Government”), threw the development of our aviation to a level just slightly higher than that of Africa.

      Here Boeing predicts that in the next 20 years, airlines of the former USSR will acquire a total of 960 new aircraft:



      This is half as much as it will be acquired in Latin America, and 10 times less than in the countries of the Asia-Pacific region.

      It's a shame!!!!!!!! am
  • Nechai
    Nechai 23 June 2012 15: 14
    +5
    Quote: Aleksey67
    We(?!) we use Russian money to support the economy of our potential opponents. This is done deliberately or due to the fact that they themselves have "collapse" and really cannot, here the question is ...

    Mutually, Alexey! Not this not "we". And the "collapse" in their heads - everyone believes that they will be reviled in the notorious mulillard, for the leading roles. So big, and everyone believes in fairy tales. Therefore, they were falling apart, that most of them are aware of themselves as temporary workers in "this" country-wild prairie by shooting the dough, as they believe. Well, B.g is not a timoshka, he sees a little!
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 23 June 2012 15: 19
      +4
      Quote: Nechai
      And the "collapse" is at their heads - everyone believes that they will be reviled in the notorious mulillard, for leading roles

      Well, carrot in front of the ass smile Perpetual breakdown engine
      Quote: Nechai
      most people realize themselves as temporary workers in "this" country-wild prairie by shooting the dough

      It is better to do business in "troubled waters", and therefore why fight corruption and revive the economy, on the contrary, there is more chaos and confusion, to grab your "piece" and to the West (warm footholds have been bought), where children study and villas are bought
      1. VAF
        VAF 23 June 2012 18: 13
        +5
        Quote: Aleksey67
        It is better to do business in "troubled waters", and therefore why fight corruption and revive the economy, on the contrary, there is more chaos and confusion, to grab your "piece" and to the West (warm footholds have been bought), where children study and villas are bought


        Lesha ... not in the eyebrow but in the eye, +! drinks

        Here is a typical example: Tu-334 is 80% unified with Tu-204, and its mass production could cost $ 22-25 million, unlike $ 43-46 million SSJ-100.

        But the more expensive - the more opportunities to steal the allocated funds.

        The final product is not particularly interested in anyone.

        Moreover, the domestic aviation industry, which simply does not have so much money to lobby its interests more effectively than foreign competitors, does not interest anyone.

        And, of course, everyone really doesn’t give a damn about the safety and lives of the people who hide behind, justifying the need for a further increase in the import of “reliable” foreign equipment instead of the domestic “flying scrap metal”.

        So, for example, the Tu-204 is one of the best aircraft in the world.

        There have never been any incidents involving the death of passengers. The only aircraft of this class that can be planted without any engines at all!



        And what did ours do ???? That's right ... they gave everything to the Chinese, let them build and release them. and then we will buy from them, and instead of it we will "add" another 19 billion to the construction of some "mysterious new" plant on the territory of KAPO ???? !!!!
    2. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 18: 07
      +3
      Quote: Nechai
      Therefore, they were falling apart, that most of them are aware of themselves as temporary workers in "this" country-wild prairie by shooting the dough, as they believe.


      Valera, you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, +! drinks

      Personally, I think that there is practically no Aviaprom in Russia as such.

      And the lion's share of the blame for this is the creation of the UAC (United Aircraft Corporation) and its "activity" !!!

      Here, as they say, evidence-based, substantively and, in topic:

      What was the KLA supposed to do?

      But in fact, she ... in fact, only plays the role of a financial manager.

      The strategy declared by the corporation is not fulfilled: there is neither the loading of enterprises, nor their development, updating of fixed assets - there is nothing !!!!

      And, it seems, there is not enough money for all this [but enough for the 2014 Olympics and the 2018 World Cup!].

      And what kind of strategy can be discussed if 9 civilian aircraft are actually produced per year. ...

      About 650 aircraft were produced in the USSR annually.

      Now ... the second-hand aviation ... is imported from abroad on conditions that, to put it mildly, are not entirely clear.

      And as a result of decisions when import duties and restrictions are leveled or removed. ”

      Here is the composition of the civil aviation fleet of the former USSR:



      But the fact: in 10 years only 52 new domestic aircraft were manufactured in Russia!

      But at the same time, it is loudly declared that Russia is rising from its knees ?!

  • Nechai
    Nechai 23 June 2012 16: 09
    +6
    Quote: Aleksey67
    and therefore why fight corruption and revive the economy,

    But how to really fight it? This is a component of the system! Only the struggle of the Nanai boys. (for young members of the forum there was such a number on the Soviet stage - ONE man portrayed a PARODY on the SCENE, a wrestling fight of a couple in kitchens). What ECONOMY ?! - in the news from our media, this is happening with exchange SPKULYANTS!
    Alksey, but of course you can grumble about people, about their LIGHTNESS. But they can also be understood - that "ninth wave" of negativity falling on a person in life - kills faith, hope, love in the end. Actually for this it is produced. So people cling to ANY POSITIVE INFU! And the power will satisfy my thirst by hanging such "noodles", stsuki! They say everything is WAY! There is a positive dynamic, do not hesitate! We go the true way, gentlemen! The truth is not reported where. You have seen the national idea (goal) of Nam! And therefore, our path lies, they say, in the darkness of the future unknown ... Where is the curve of globalism, tolerance, etc. will output. The enemy is not in danger, we do not need friends in FIG. Only financial benefits and we will live, yeah. Wu threw - ran the financial world oligarchy, its benefits can, they say, chop off on a stable basis. They will only rejoice. That's what kind of animal they created, soon their kusman will shrink.
    1. VAF
      VAF 23 June 2012 18: 21
      +3
      Quote: Nechai
      But how to really fight it? This is a component of the system!


      Absolutely, Valera, absolutely, +!

      Production of the Tu-214 is recognized as unprofitable, because the UAC does not allow it to be released.

      The point is this: why produce something if the money can be divided right in the offices? 150 billion rubles debt for 2 years [to 2010].

      This is neither more nor less - $ 5 billion.

      But all this means that they got loans abroad, which they did not bring to Russia, and “hung” the debts on the UAC.

      Calculate how much the KLA receives from the state for development.

      Here is an example of deliberate sabotage, real sabotage:

      By 1999, we had a Tu-334 aircraft ready for production, which made its first flights.



      $ 1 billion has already been spent on this program.

      However, preference was given to the Sukhoi Superjet 100 project, and the Tu-334 was not even included in the state aviation development program until 2015.

      The result was a “domestic” aircraft, consisting of 80% of the finished parts of foreign production:



      My opinion is that people who earn live on the collapse of aviation and lobbying for foreign airlines should be identified as a result of the investigation (although what to identify them if they are already in sight) and ...... and here everyone will come up with what he wants ...
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 23 June 2012 18: 27
        +2
        tu-334 at least in one copy is ???
        But did he meet the requirements of ICAO ??
        1. VAF
          VAF 23 June 2012 19: 28
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          tu-334 at least in one copy is ???


          The only flight instance is in Zhukovsky without a single engine, it is sometimes done maintenance work on it semi-legally, but so far the authorities (UAC) Poghosyan have no hope for the revival of this program.



          Quote: Yarbay
          But did he meet the requirements of ICAO ??


          Fully 100% in equipment and in engines, even with domestic ones, not to mention imported ones.

          Was made 5 pieces, but .... Super-Jet .... "won" !!!



          And the "offended boy" is itching to do everything ..... the poor thing plays minusochki !!!
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 23 June 2012 19: 31
            +1
            Quote: veteran.air force
            And the "offended boy" is itching to do everything ..... the poor thing plays minusochki !!!

            I thought that I alone noticed how he created a clone "vetera air force" laughing But, the wretched man immediately burned up supporting himself beloved under the same nickname wassat
            1. VAF
              VAF 23 June 2012 21: 07
              +3
              Quote: Aleksey67
              But, the wretched man immediately burned up supporting himself beloved under the same nickname


              Lesch, +! You know ... in Russia it is customary to be holy fools and wretched with indulgence ... well, let the child play in the minus ... give him pleasure !!!

              And especially to the child. I saw his new creation ..... everything is clear, I thought the child was so at the level of grade 8-9, well, I learned to keep a cigarette, maybe it’s fucking already, but here ... Lyosha. so this is the level 1-2 of the central vocational school no more .... and then they will tell us that they contacted the youngster ...

              let the child indulge ... maybe mom will come give an ice cream, so will she calm down herself ?!
          2. Splin
            Splin 23 June 2012 21: 03
            +1
            Quote: veteran.air force
            Fully 100% for equipment

            In March of this year, Motor Sich wanted to buy it. Not a license, but all, along with the documentation. It seems that while there was no news about the sale.
            1. VAF
              VAF 24 June 2012 01: 09
              +3
              Quote: Splin
              In March of this year, Motor Sich wanted to buy it.


              Something is doubtful. that Boguslaev would go for it, some kind of "duck"!

              After all, the 158 car is very close in its characteristics ???
              1. Splin
                Splin 24 June 2012 06: 10
                +1
                Ukraine will spend money to revive the failed Tu-334 project

                Wednesday, July 20, 2011 00:41

                Vyacheslav Boguslaev, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Motor Sich JSC, wants to revive the Tu-334 aircraft project. To this end, he suggested that Tupolev OJSC buy out one of the three previously produced Tu-334 airliners and begin its commercial operation in the airline owned by Motor Sich.

                Tupolev did not comment on negotiations on the possibility of selling the Tu-334. The UAC also declined to comment. However, the company notes that the Ukrainian side may buy one of the two aircraft located at the Kazan aircraft plant.

                Based on materials from the site "Ukrainian Militarist" http://mil.in.ua/novyny/ukrayina-bude-tratyty-groshi-schob-reanimuvaty-provaleny
                y-proekt-tu-334

                Although the site is nationalistic, it never lies in its information.
                1. VAF
                  VAF 24 June 2012 11: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Splin
                  Although the site is nationalistic, it never lies in its information.


                  Then normal infa, Motor Sich has money, there are opportunities to put it in for production, and at least in Kharkov itself, so it’s quite possible !!! +!

                  I just asked again, because you (YOU ???) commented that you are going to buy out a production license?

                  Poghosyan won’t let him shoot himself .... it’s then Ukraine will launch a cheaper and more reliable plane ... and chopped off for Super-duper ... everything ....

                  And this ... do you remember how in the film? ...... and on this I can’t understand anything ..... lol
                  1. Splin
                    Splin 24 June 2012 18: 36
                    +1
                    That was in March. C / D was not so disastrous. We wanted to buy the whole car with copyright. Unify as much as possible with 148 (158) and sell within the CIS. Sukhoi then had many contracts, they were not afraid of competition. And now, probably, OAK - neither to myself nor to people.
  • vetera air force
    vetera air force 23 June 2012 18: 49
    -2
    new is good
  • - = KeepeR = -
    - = KeepeR = - 24 June 2012 03: 34
    +2
    AVIACOR almost bent. Those very few orders that now still somehow keep him afloat from complete collapse. The behavior of the authorities over 20 years in relation to the aerospace industry in the Samara region is completely incomprehensible! They ruined magnificent production, engineering personnel ... they ruined everything for a hair dryer. Now nobody needs AVIACOR - and this is sad. The salary of the very workers who assemble planes on it is today (just do not laugh) 10-15t.r. These are actually real patriots! The average age has long approached / exceeded the retirement age.

    Regarding the authorities: we had a governor here - Artyakov, he reigned for 5 years and was recently removed. So, with him, many factories in Samara turned down: they sold (in whole or in part) the territories and buildings of factories in private hands - including: AVIAKOR, TsSKB, munitions factories of various directions, state-owned enterprises of the civil sector.
    By the way, Artyakov left where he came from - Deputy General Director of "Russian Technologies". So gentlemen!) Such people remain in power in one capacity or another. And while they are there, I do not believe in the revival of the military-industrial complex and other things ...
    1. VAF
      VAF 24 June 2012 12: 08
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      Quote: - = KeepeR = -
      By the way, Artyakov left where he came from - Deputy General Director of "Russian Technologies". So gentlemen!) Such people remain in power in one capacity or another. And while they are there, I do not believe in the revival of the military-industrial complex and other things ...


      Andrey, ++++ !!!!! drinks

      But in order to reason like this, you need to know about it and see it and .... God forbid, of course, to feel on yourself (but in my opinion, you took all of this, so to speak, with a full spoon. Not even a spoon, but a SHOVEL) like most of us.

      But, unfortunately, there are a lot of people on the forum who do not see or hear anything at all, and are engaged in some URAYA-have already noticed, any article URAYA, good news ????
      What ??? that finally, after many years of work, they released one plane or one helicopter ???
      Oh yes, another boat ????
      Well, and right there, yes, we’ll tear them all now, like tuziki heating pad .....

      Well, if an article comes out about "grandiose" plans that by 2020 or some year we will lay, plan and there will be so much ... well, just madness ... from delight ...

      So with such statements and opinions here you may not understand !!!

      I wish you success, with respect, good