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The United States acknowledged the unwillingness to build new submarines

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The prospective construction of Columbia-class submarine cruisers armed with ballistic missiles faced significant difficulties that adversely affect the willingness to deploy their production. It is reported by the United States Naval Institute portal.




New submarines, designed to come to replace the type of "Ohio", are the main priority of the Navy. However, as stated in the report of the United States Audit Office (GAO) of 8 in April, the program of their construction risks exceeding its budget, which is 115 billion. during serial production.

At the same time, the threat is represented by a lack of readiness for technologies that are critical to the submarine. Elimination of these shortcomings will require additional investments. Previously, manufacturing defects were discovered regarding a new type of rocket launchers and an integrated energy system, which also requires labor over the limit to correct them.

As one example, the Accounts Chamber illustrated the problems with the prototype propulsion unit. To eliminate them, a major overhaul and an additional nine months of work on the ground test bench were required.

The Pentagon and GAO agree that suppliers are the weak link in the Colombia program, as they carry a high risk in terms of the timely shipment of equipment necessary for the construction. At the same time, they are faced in parallel with the task of supplying systems, components and assemblies for submarines of the type “Virginia” already under construction. A similar problem arises in front of shipyards, which must find new capacities.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 11 2019 09: 32
    +10
    The prospective construction of Columbia-class submarine cruisers armed with ballistic missiles encountered significant difficulties that negatively impacted their readiness to launch their production.

    Maybe the mercenary of the peku-drunk can be taken to him, soon after all, he will remain idle. Everything flies, swims, runs BETTER of all)). You look, and then he will trample on the mericatos! laughing
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter April 11 2019 09: 40
      +12
      the program for their construction risks exceeding the budget laid down for it, which amounts to $ 115 billion

      This is exactly the explanation I expected by reading the title. lol
      1. Separ DNR
        Separ DNR April 11 2019 09: 55
        +6
        Pasha, hello, by the way!

        But the thing is ...

        The United States acknowledged the unwillingness to build new submarines.

        Oops ... fellow

        And where is the author Oleg Egorov ?, which in the article:

        Is Russia's stake on strategic submarine missile carriers justified? (https://topwar.ru/156650-opravdana-li-stavka-rossii-na-strategicheskie-podvodnye-raketonoscy.html#comment-id-9272561)

        Commented:
        Quote: Olezhek

        1 US fleet is the strongest on the planet since the second half of WWII
        after WWII - absolutely the strongest (and more likely due to the quality than a blunt amount - this is not the Invincible Armada)
        2 Americans are filthy soldiers, but magnificent sailors (perhaps the best in the world)
        3 One accurate torpedo salvo at the Akula in the prelaunch period pays for a lot ...


        On what, his "magnificent sailors"Will they row? The matter is just about the submarine fleet.
        1. evgic
          evgic April 11 2019 10: 10
          +13
          Phrase alone
          (and more likely due to quality than dumb quantity - this is not an Invincible Armada for you
          says that a person is poorly versed in the history of the fleet. The invincible Armada joined the battle in parts due to bad weather conditions. Because of this, the ships were far from the best shape, in general the Angles were lucky. But already next year, the Spanish fleet brought itself into relative order and distributed quite good lyuley to England and its allies
          1. jjj
            jjj April 11 2019 10: 30
            +4
            And in their new boats will they have new missiles too?
          2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 10: 51
            0
            Quote: evgic
            says that a person poorly versed fleet history.

            But why? That's right. The English ships were more modern in design, and the training of the sailors of the Armada was extremely heterogeneous and on many ships - bad, worse than the British
            1. evgic
              evgic April 11 2019 11: 14
              +6
              Well, here you are. The English squadron consisted mainly of hired ships, with hired crews. These ships were not built like warships, but were simply armed merchants. The percentage of purely military courts in Spain was much higher, and accordingly the teams were more disciplined. The economic power of Spain, that time, and England was not comparable, and the Spaniards could afford it. And the composition of the armada was more homogeneous, since the British still had Dutch, French and German mercenaries, both in crews and in ships
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 12: 26
                +2
                Quote: evgic
                Well, here you are.

                Agas. I can not say that the sailing fleet is my horse, but ...
                Quote: evgic
                The English squadron consisted mainly of hired ships, with hired crews. These ships were not built as military ships, but were simply armed merchants. The percentage of purely military courts in Spain was much higher

                Sorry, but you completely confused me :)))) Since when has the galleon suddenly become a purely warship? In terms of the number of ships (not merchant ships), the British exceeded the Spaniards EMNIP by one and a half times. And the fact that the British ships were better for maneuver and artillery fighting - in my opinion, not a single source disputed
                Quote: evgic
                and accordingly the teams were disciplined

                The teams were definitely not more disciplined, because then the training of Spanish sailors was something with something. Pros were there, yes, but - very little.
                1. evgic
                  evgic April 11 2019 13: 16
                  +2
                  Well then, explain by this the fact of the subsequent defeat of the English cotramada, so to speak. And not only her. And the actual bankruptcy of the English crown at the end of the war. It seems to me that the sources are clearly confusing something. So, following your logic, the English ships, adapted for artillery combat and with disciplined teams, should simply break the weakened Spanish fleet. However, something turned out the opposite, followed by a grand defeat.
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 17: 40
                    0
                    Quote: evgic
                    Well, then explain with this the fact of the subsequent defeat of the English cotrarmada, so to speak

                    Good question, maybe I'll do it at my leisure :))))
                    1. evgic
                      evgic April 11 2019 17: 51
                      0
                      Your series of articles about the T-34 vs Panther was great. If you also approach the Anglo-Spanish War, it will be no less interesting
            2. yehat
              yehat April 11 2019 11: 46
              +2
              English ships were not more modern, moreover, the Spaniards had a wunderwafer galleon. The British fleet was a bunch of pirate privateers, and not the country's military fleet.

              The advantage of the brazen men was different - the Spaniards were badly battered by the weather before the battle, and the British went to sea fresh.
        2. Altona
          Altona April 11 2019 10: 37
          0
          Quote: Separ DNR
          But the thing is ...

          --------------------------
          Regardless of any country, it seems that the huge budgets of the military departments are pushing the officials and managers who distribute them to immediately pocket a huge part of the funds. We recently heard about the theft of large sums of money during the fulfillment of a defense order in Russia. And our fleet also encounters large technical schools, the same level as the American ones. So in any case, most of the funds are spent extremely inefficiently, regardless of the country.
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR April 11 2019 10: 41
            0
            Quote: Altona
            So in any case, most of the funds are spent extremely inefficiently, regardless of the country.

            It's like a glance ... It's not about the countries, but about similar, if not essentially uniform forms of power ...

            1. Altona
              Altona April 11 2019 10: 55
              +1
              Quote: Separ DNR
              It's like a glance ... It's not about the countries, but about similar, if not essentially uniform forms of power ...

              -------------------------------
              Perhaps you had in mind the social system, the form of power is somewhat different.
              1. Separ DNR
                Separ DNR April 11 2019 11: 01
                +1
                Quote: Altona
                Perhaps you had in mind the social system, the form of power is somewhat different.

                How to say...
                One serves the other.
                Remember the late "Gorbachev" USSR ... The system is Socialist, the form of power is homosexual.

                Where is Socialism now, together with the USSR?
                1. Altona
                  Altona April 11 2019 11: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Separ DNR
                  Remember the late "Gorbachev" USSR ... The system is Socialist, the form of power is homosexual.

                  -------------------------
                  Under Gorbachev, the USSR was already undergoing changes regarding the very foundations of the state.
                  1. Separ DNR
                    Separ DNR April 11 2019 11: 07
                    +1
                    Quote: Altona
                    Under Gorbachev, the USSR was already undergoing changes regarding the very foundations of the state.

                    Everything is true, and all because of a corrupt form of power. I have already described it, I will not repeat it.
                    1. Altona
                      Altona April 11 2019 11: 13
                      +1
                      Quote: Separ DNR
                      Everything is true, and all because of the form of power. I have already described it, I will not repeat it.

                      ------------------------
                      There are not only forms of power. There, changes are precisely in the social system.
                      1. Separ DNR
                        Separ DNR April 11 2019 11: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: Altona
                        There, changes are precisely in the social system.

                        Lord-and-and-and-and-... You drink blood straight ...

                        What is primary? Did the social system influence the change in the form of power, or did the irresponsible, stupid, hostile form of power lead to the degradation and collapse of the social system (socialism)?

                        You already decide. Otherwise trouble wassat ...
                      2. Altona
                        Altona April 11 2019 12: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Separ DNR
                        What is primary?

                        --------------------
                        The social system is primary, you write nonsense already. Attaching a portrait of Stalin, you think you drown for the quasi-monarchy, identifying power and its form with the person. Although we have a republican system under socialism and capitalism. So figure it out yourself first.
                      3. Separ DNR
                        Separ DNR April 11 2019 12: 15
                        +2
                        Quote: Altona
                        Although we have a republican system under socialism and capitalism.

                        Ohhh ... So for you, nothing has changed with the collapse of the USSR?

                        Clear. There will be no more questions laughing
        3. another RUSICH
          another RUSICH April 11 2019 10: 39
          +4
          Penguins, like the Chinese, are now working hard in the field of underwater autonomous robotics, the construction of which is much cheaper than missile cruisers
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 11 2019 15: 29
            +1
            Russia does not lag behind in this direction
            and even superior
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 11 2019 15: 37
              +1
              Underwater drone "Nerpa" - to defeat combat swimmers and other underwater vehicles.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 April 11 2019 15: 50
                +1
                "Glider" Can conduct prospecting work, deep-sea exploration. Dual-purpose apparatus. It was tested as part of the promising submarine complexes of the Russian Navy in the fall of 2016.

                The type of apparatus is an underwater glider, which means that it moves due to a change in its own buoyancy. Addressed to oceanologists, oil and gas companies and the military.

                The complex includes: research glider, glider-carrier of mini-devices, glider-relay, ship control center, as well as relay equipment.
                Battery 70 Ah.

                Battery life - 6-8 months

                Speed ​​- about 1 km / h (according to other sources - 3.7 km / h), up to 2 knots.

                Payload - 13-17 kg.

                One vertical steering wheel, two horizontal.

                Cigar shape.

                Length - 3 m

                diameter without wings - 310 mm.

                Weight - 150 kg.

                Antennas up to 15 m long.

                There is the possibility of emergency ascent using an inflatable pontoon.

                The glider is being developed in modifications - the research glider, the glider carrier of a mini-autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicle, the glider relay, and the relay facility.

                When using it does not need an escort vessel.

                Composite housing
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 11 2019 15: 55
                  +1
                  Galtel Mobile multipurpose complex for illumination of the bottom and bottom environment of the "Galtel - Alevrit" type. It is not a glider, the immersion is carried out due to the work of the screws. Designed by order of the Russian military. Designed to identify underwater mines, but can be used for other tasks.

                  Autonomous uninhabited vehicles can scan depths up to 400 m. By using a group of vehicles, an increase in the area survey speed is achieved.

                  The complex includes a Chilim apparatus, designed to destroy discovered dangerous objects
                  can navigate under water according to the signals of sonar beacons

                  - can move under water in a cycloid or spiral

                  - the task is entered into the computing device of the device by cable, then it acts autonomously

                  - up to 12 hours of autonomous action - during this time it is able to examine 4 square kilometers of the bottom.

                  - immersion depth - up to 400 m

                  - power reserve - up to 100 km

                  - average speed - up to 8 km / h (calculated as 100 km / 8 h)

                  - autopilot with support for the obstacle avoidance algorithm

                  - equipped with side-scan sonar

                  - when moving under water, it is guided by the sonar

                  - Designed for an average water temperature of 15 degrees. In warmer water, you have to spend more energy on cooling equipment.

                  - the set includes 2 similar underwater vehicles "Galtel" and a remote-controlled underwater vehicle "Chilim" for re-examination of the objects detected by the autonomous robot.

                  - upon visual detection of suspicious ones (according to the robot's assessment), it photographs it, takes a video filming and pops up to transmit information by radio to the control room, which is located on the anti-sabotage boat "Grachonok".

                  - weight 180 kg
        4. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 10: 49
          +3
          Quote: Separ DNR
          On what, his "magnificent sailors" will row?

          And what, 17 virgins in the ranks + 5 laid, 3 syvulfov and 33 moose is not enough? :))))
          The Americans wrote that they have problems with SSBNs, but they are typical problems - 115 billion is not enough for them :))) So they will give more, or they will make the boats a little worse than they planned. What are you happy about? Virginia is also actually a budget option, but it will be very nice if our Ash Trees with them make the same noise level and power of the SJK. Only there is no certainty
          1. Separ DNR
            Separ DNR April 11 2019 10: 52
            -1
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Only there is no certainty

            Are you sure of anything?
            Or is it all like this: Yes, but there are nuances ...?
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 10: 55
              +3
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Are you sure of anything?

              I happen. For example, I am absolutely sure that 7 ash trees, of which Severodvinsk is a transitional type from 3 to 4 generation, are absolutely not enough to fight the power of the American Navy. A new 885M are not going to lay. Expensive.
              Quote: Separ DNR
              Or is it all like this: Yes, but there are nuances ...?

              This is not my case, this is true in life :))))
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 11 2019 14: 13
            +1
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            The Americans wrote that they have problems with SSBNs, but the problems are typical - 115 billion is not enough for them :))) So they will give more, or they will make the boats a little worse than they planned.

            Greetings, namesake. I think not everything is as simple as you wrote. I think that in general in the American and not only the military-industrial complex there are big problems with the creation of NEW weapons, and not only with regard to the fleet. Mountains of money are being invested, but when entering the domestic and foreign markets, absolutely crude, if not to say more, weapons are coming out. And this crisis of ideas in the United States did not begin yesterday. Moreover, the inability to create a truly successful combat complex, whether it be an automatic rifle or a destroyer, mattresses abundantly try to eliminate the amount of money supply, apparently firmly believing that this will solve the problems.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Virginie is actually also a budget option,

            It was in the first series. Now, given the development of this multi-purpose vehicle, we can confidently assert that the latest modifications of this submarine are not much lower in price than the Wolf, as well as in terms of capabilities.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            if our Ash-tree M with them in terms of low noise and power HAK equal. Only there is no certainty

            And I have absolute confidence that Ash-M will be quieter than the Virgin. Moreover, I think the next Yasen-M after Kazan will be even more advanced in this regard, since not only the Virgins are being developed, but we aren’t slurping cabbage soup. Another question is that all our quality advantages in general of the Yasen and Yasen-M projects dissolve in construction time compared to Virginia construction timeline and quantitative comparisons.
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 11 2019 17: 55
              +1
              Good evening! hi
              Quote: NEXUS
              I think that in general in the US and not only the defense industry complex, there are big problems with the creation of NEW types of weapons

              There is such a letter. But again, what is meant by new ... The same F-35, if you think about it, is not new, but the old weapon system :)))) Yet JSF started back in 90, the same Virginia is not too much of them remain
              Quote: NEXUS
              It was in the first series. Now, given the development of this multi-purpose vehicle, we can confidently assert that the latest modifications of this submarine are not much lower in price than the Wolf, as well as in terms of capabilities.

              I agree, how many years have passed! In view of the scientific and technological revolution, the limiting MAPL would already have absolute superiority
              Quote: NEXUS
              And I have an absolute certainty that Yasen-M will be quieter than a Virgin.

              Here I doubt it, especially given the incomprehensible lack of water cannons. I myself have repeatedly assumed that the screw is not a sentence, but I do not have exact data. As well as data for comparison Irtysh-Amphora
        5. genisis
          genisis April 12 2019 11: 44
          0
          Separ - Columbia is the SSBN in our classification. These boats are not for torpedo volleys.
          However, for some reason, the article does not indicate that this is the second report on the difficulties that the Americans faced in creating this series. And having run through the eyes of the second, I saw that the problems of the first did not go away. They are simply spoken of in other words. But the fact is that the US industry does not have the technology to implement the boat in those engineering solutions that were originally designed. That is, it was assumed that by the time of implementation technological solutions would be found, but in fact they could not solve the problem. In the report for 2017, this problem was called “critical”. In the current report, the issue of "industrial design", according to the project "Columbia" is also put under a big question. Thus, the issue of underwater launchers of ICBMs remains tense. Ohio type boats so few left. And the change, as it was, remains at the beginning of the path.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 April 11 2019 09: 56
        +4
        Pasha, but what about their Merikatos-as much as necessary, we’ll print so much ?! request So not everything is so simple with them with "printing". bully
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy April 11 2019 10: 36
          +5
          There would be more such American bad luck. wink
      3. dzvero
        dzvero April 11 2019 13: 39
        0
        But there is one nuance (c) - overspending not because of and not for "peeling", but because of production problems. The engines are mentioned, and if the zamvolt just gets up and starts to sink slowly, the submarine may not be able to surface slowly.
    2. 1Alexey
      1Alexey April 12 2019 12: 44
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      Maybe the mekatos petsku-drunk could be taken to him, soon after all, he would remain idle. Everything flies, swims, runs BETTER of all)). You look, and then he will trample on the mericatos! laughing


      Similarly, our Chubais will help them, teach them how to "correctly" spend money!
  2. evgic
    evgic April 11 2019 09: 38
    +5
    In general, the usual story of the American defense industry. We need more dough and more and more ....
  3. andr327
    andr327 April 11 2019 09: 50
    +7
    And life is the same everywhere. Change the American organizations in the article to Russian ones and you get an article by our "class 3 expert" about the Russian fleet. And you can also change the Navy to space. etc. And problems were, are and will be for everyone: for whites, and for reds, and for blue ... The only question is how quickly they are overcome. Moreover, the monetary component is not the most important one.
  4. Avior
    Avior April 11 2019 10: 35
    +1
    Money is still being knocked out.
    Or really a lot of new technologies that require additional testing
  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 April 11 2019 10: 37
    +3
    What, the arms race with the Russians did not go according to plan?
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 11 2019 10: 58
    +5
    Is the American military-industrial complex facing problems? But what about the declared that they have everything "technological, smart, and most importantly beautiful"? As usual - at first they asked for and received 115 billion, then suddenly it turned out that this was not enough, they even found the culprit
    underestimated labor costs and overvalued cost savings
    And it turns out that technology is not all right
    lack of readiness of technology critical for the submarine
    Conclusion: each country has its own problems and do not aggressively criticize our Navy to refer to the power and readiness of the potential enemy’s fleet.
  7. Sars
    Sars April 11 2019 11: 00
    +2
    It's not about the money - the machines are working, the problems with the personnel - the rocket mines, for example, there is no one to cook.
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh April 11 2019 11: 11
    0
    Auditors checked the project. Normal business.
    There are no special technical problems. The planned savings did not work out.
    1. Every
      Every April 11 2019 18: 41
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Auditors checked the project. Normal business.
      There are no special technical problems. The planned savings did not work out.

      I will not claim that I understand this issue thoroughly. But one gets the impression that these very "planned savings" were planned in advance and that initially the real cost of the project will be much higher than the "planned" one. Because if you immediately discover the real value, then the developers will simply send it to a known and unpleasant address.
      But if you already start a project, and then declare “not enough money, let's get some more”, the customer will have no choice. Either close the project (already working), or open the bins.
      1. Every
        Every April 11 2019 18: 57
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        then the developers will simply send to a well-known and unpleasant address.

        I apologize. Error. Instead of the word "Customers" I wrote "Developers". I apologize again.
    2. genisis
      genisis April 12 2019 11: 53
      0
      Did you read the report? This is the second, the first one was in 2017. So, what you call “there are no special technical problems” in the report is called “the critical problem is the lack of technologies for implementation in the current industrial design”. That is, you need to either change the project, or wait for the appearance of materials / technology. And this is a shift in terms by an unknown amount of time.
  9. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet April 11 2019 11: 12
    0
    Correct, repair, add money and do ..
  10. Adimius38
    Adimius38 April 11 2019 18: 18
    -3
    Well, we have unpreparedness above the roof, both with non-volatile installations and the fleet as a whole
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 11 2019 18: 35
      0
      And you are currently serving in the Navy - what would you say with confidence about unreadiness?
  11. Every
    Every April 11 2019 18: 35
    0
    the program for their construction risks exceeding the budget laid down for it, which amounts to $ 115 billion. The reason for this is underestimated labor costs and overestimated cost savings

    Well, that’s the whole explanation. Let's get some more money. (Give me a millionaire, well, give me a millionaire, well, what’s it worth you, you have a lot of them)
    In this case, the threat is the lack of readiness of technologies critical for the submarine. Addressing these shortcomings will require additional investment.

    No more questions.