Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. In the shadow of the famous

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In the past, we talked about the most famous submachine guns of the third, post-war generation. Their development began either in the war years, or soon after it ended. The main trends in the work of designers were improving reliability (and the Swedes achieved a lot here), compactness and dirt and dust resistance (here again, Uzi takes first place), strength (here the French iron MAC 49 “beats everyone”), and all other indicators depended on the patron. 9 × 19 mm cartridge “Parabellum” became dominant here, but the Soviet cartridge from TT, yes, was used very widely, but not in new samples. After the appearance of AK-47, the USSR abandoned the production of new PP models at all, and sent all the old models to the allies and the national liberation movement.

However, it would be a mistake to think that in the West, where there were many different firms that produced weapon, would be limited only to the samples described in the previous materials. There were many of them that remained “in the shadow of the famous”, and we will also tell about them today.



French PP


Well, we will start with sunny France, where in 1949, the MAT 49 was put into service, and the main requirement for the designers was ... its national origin. Until the last screw! So that everyone can see that "France ... has not disappeared," that the French arms school is still at its best and can create weapons of the highest quality. All this is true, of course. But what happened between the 1945 and 1949 years? Really no other samples of PP in France at this time did not appear?

Recall that after the war, the French troops used mainly captured weapons of defeated Germany, and in addition, returned to the release of the pre-war MAS-38. The technical assignment for a completely new submachine gun was also issued. And in four years, several leading weapon companies offered their models of future submachine guns, sometimes quite curious in design.

The army wanted a weapon chambered for 9x19 mm “Parabellum”, with an effective range of up to 200 m. Attention was also paid to ergonomics. The submachine gun was supposed to be convenient for the shooter, and not only when firing. For some reason, the French believed that the weapon had to be folded during transportation in order to occupy a minimum volume. And here you always need to remember one important popular saying: “Make a fool to pray to God, he will break his whole forehead”. That is, none of these requirements can not be taken too seriously. Everything should be in moderation…

Folding "Universal"


Well, a well-known company, Societe des Armes a Feu Portatives Hotchkiss et Cie, was attracted to the development of the PP, that is, the company Hochiss. And by the year 1949 their sample was ready, like everyone else. Officially it was called "Universal", because the company assumed that it could be used in a wide variety of troops.



Outwardly, he was not particularly different from the machine gun pistols of his time. The barrel of a long 273 mm (30 gauge) allowed for a good shooting performance. The receiver had the simplest shape. Automatics “Hotchkiss Yuniversal” was also very simple and contained no innovations. The shutter is like a shutter. The reloading handle is connected to a movable shutter covering the groove from dirt. When firing, it remained in place. True, the fire mode switch was inconvenient: pressing the button on the right included firing single, on the left - bursts. And it was necessary to constantly keep in mind which of them to press. The flag translator, as practice has shown, is always preferable in this case.

Meals were supplied from a box magazine on an 32 cartridge. But then “miracles” started, connected with the fact that the company considered the possibility of ... to develop in the design of its software. And she was subject to this goal without reserve. By the way, folding the “Universal” was not difficult. For this everything was provided. First of all, it was necessary to fold the magazine, turning it forward together with the receiver, after which it was pushed into the receiver as far as it would go (!), After which it was also possible to push the barrel inside the receiver, compressing the mainspring, which reduced the overall length of the submachine gun . But that was not all. Now it was necessary to turn down and forward the butt. At the same time he pressed on the pistol grip of the original device - U-shaped and hollow inside. She held a horizontal position and went to the trigger bracket. On the butt plate there was also a U-shaped notch into which the store fell, and a special lock on the butt tube at the same time caught on the tooth in the shaft of the store. The submachine gun was laid out in the reverse order, but the design did not provide for intermediate positions — that is, “or — or.”



The total length of the "Universal" in unfolded form was 776 mm. Folded - 540 mm. And the pushed trunk saved more 100 mm. The weight of the PP without cartridges was 3,63 kg. The rate of fire is about 650 shots per minute. Effective range to 150-200 m.

The submachine gun was tested all the same in 1949 and was even recommended for use as it was decided that it was convenient for paratroopers and crews tanks and combat vehicles. But while the court, yes the case, MAT 49 managed to appear and the military turned out to take the “Universal”.

True, the Venezuelan army, which, by the way, was the only buyer of this model, showed interest in the “universal” machine gun. The fact is that all the "collapsible" tricks of the designers led to the fact that this software turned out to be too complicated, and therefore expensive. As a result, in 1952, Venezuela received the last batch of "Universals", and more than "Hotchiss" did not release them. Some of them still managed to get into the parachute units of the French army, who fought at this time in Indochina. It is known that, in general, they proved to be no worse than other samples, however, their ability to form truly was never useful to anyone!



Submachine gun "Universal" in the folded form. It should be noted that the store is not shifted all the way back and therefore is not held by a special protrusion at the end of the trunk below.

"Gewarm" D4


And in France there was a company "Guevarm", which released around the same time the submachine gun D4. Moreover, he was even in service with the French police and was exported. The design was traditional: free shutter, shooting from an open shutter, the reloading handle was on the left. Butt butt, sight with the whole L-shaped, and installations on 50 and 100 meters. The cartridge is all the same: 9x19 mm "Parabellum", the weight of the weapon - 3,3 kg. With the butt folded, the length was 535 mm. With extended - 782 mm. The rate of fire was equal to 600 shots / min. This outstanding submachine-gun didn’t stand out among other things, except for the unusual shape of the barrel casing, which, therefore, resembled the Hotchiss barrel, and only that which was later often seen in films with Pierre Richard.

Submachine gun: yesterday, today, tomorrow. In the shadow of the famous

Submachine gun "Guevarm" D4.


Italian PP


And now we turn to the designs of Italian engineers, who began to work on post-war samples of submachine guns also during the Second World War. Unusual design in 1943 was proposed by designer Giuseppe Oliani. His OG-43 submachine gun was produced by Armaguerra Cremona, and to this day only one sample of this submachine gun has been preserved, and it is in a private collection in Switzerland.

He was also one of the first types of weapons in his class with stores in the pistol grip and ... a "telescopic" bolt, much of the mass of which was in his front, not the back. But this was clearly not enough for the designer, and he envisaged the use of the most advanced technologies for the production of his sample, that is, stamping of its main parts from sheet metal. But ... apparently he was rather unusual. So, he had a pistol grip, but ... under the barrel in front, but it was supposed to hold him in the back directly behind the magazine that was inserted behind the trigger bracket.



The military didn’t like it very much, and they demanded ... to improve this sample, which could be understood as “bringing it to a more familiar look”. Therefore, in the 1944 year, Olani presented to them a modification with the “traditional” layout, which received the designation “Armaguerra” OG-44. Now he had a “normal” pistol grip stamped along with the receiver, and the store receiver was in front of the trigger guard.



Shops in it were used box-shaped, with a double-row arrangement of cartridges, from the Beretta submachine gun M38A, of various capacities from 20 to 40 cartridges. The flip sight of both the 43 and 44 models was mounted on 100 and 200 meters. The weight of the OG-44 without ammunition was 3,2 kg. OG-44 could be produced with a fixed wooden butt, or folding, metal, from OG-43.

But the most important thing is that the Armaguerra OG-43 submachine gun, although it produced it in small numbers, certainly had an impact on a number of post-war samples, setting the development vector, so to speak. For example, its layout solutions are well traced in the Walter MPL / MPK submachine guns, the Franchi LF-57 and in a number of others ...



Submachine gun "Franchi" LF-57, created by the company "Luigi Franchi" Brescia in 1956 year. Automatic equipment has a free shutter of the L-shaped form. The shutter handle when shooting is motionless. The sight on the 200 is fixed. The rate of fire within 450 – 470 shots / min. Entirely stamped out of metal. In 1962, he entered service with the Italian Navy. It was actively supplied to Africa (Angola, Congo-Brazzaville, Zaire, Katanga, Mozambique, Nigeria) and even in the USA.

To be continued ...
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  1. +9
    April 29 2019 19: 27
    Very interesting article! I have not heard about such software. Thank! hi
  2. +7
    April 29 2019 19: 34
    hi Greetings. Thank....good
    ... Cinema based on:
    ... French troops used mainly the captured weapons of defeated Germany, and in addition, returned to the production of the pre-war MAS-38.
    ... The full length of the "Universal" when unfolded was 776 mm. Folded - 540 mm.

    ... in 1944, Oliani presented them with a modification of the "traditional" layout, which received the designation "Armaguerra" OG-44 ... Shops in it used box, with a double-row arrangement of cartridges, from a submachine gun "Beretta" M38A.

    feel ... Beretta 38/42 - I’ll add from myself:
    ... Submachine gun "Franchi" LF-57, created by the company "Luigi Franchi" Brescia in 1956. Automation has a free L-shaped shutter
  3. +11
    April 29 2019 19: 40
    Right now, the major whirlwind will come and start rubbing over two-row shops with rebuilding. We wait.
    1. +2
      April 30 2019 18: 29
      And smaller flanges!

      wassat
  4. +8
    April 29 2019 20: 02
    For some reason, the French believed that the weapons had to be folded during transportation in order to occupy the minimum volume.
    Not only the French thought so.

    The FNAB 43 submachine gun was developed by the Italian company Fabbrica Nazionale d'Armi di Brescia (National Arms Factory in Brescia). The first prototype was assembled in 1942, and serial production was carried out in 1943-1944. The design of this submachine gun and the technology for its production were too expensive, especially in wartime, as a result of which about 43 copies of the FNAB 7000 submachine guns were produced. Automation works according to the scheme with a semi-free shutter. The bolt is decelerated during a shot using a lever, similar to the design used in the Hungarian Kiraly 39M submachine gun.
    1. +7
      April 29 2019 20: 04

      The same submachine gun when folded.
      1. +6
        April 29 2019 20: 30
        But then the “miracles” began, connected with the fact that the company considered the main thing in the design of its PP to be ... the ability to develop.
        Not only Hotchkiss thought so. The firm "Manufactures d'Armes de Châtellerault" (MAC) calculated the same and issued MAC 47 to the mountain.
        1. +3
          April 29 2019 20: 38

          He is in a folded state. The weapon was designed as compact as possible. The submachine gun weighed 2,1 kg and had a length of 400 mm when folded. When the magazine with the receiver is folding, the hole is closed with a special cover to prevent contamination.
          1. +5
            April 29 2019 21: 16
            hi ... PP-90 (from modern)

            ... and the "screw" PP-90M1 good
            1. +5
              April 29 2019 21: 34
              ,,, do not want a flashlight? laughing
              1. +3
                April 30 2019 00: 58
                Quote: bubalik
                ,, do you want a flashlight?

                The radio is better!
              2. +1
                April 30 2019 18: 31
                I liked the flashlight.

                Give!

                drinks
            2. +6
              April 29 2019 21: 43
              Magpul FMG-9 (modern)
              1. +4
                April 29 2019 22: 03
                hi .... bubalik (Sergey) and Undecim - send Yes laughing
              2. 0
                April 30 2019 18: 32
                Magpool is good too.

                drinks
            3. +5
              April 30 2019 00: 54
              Submachine gun ARES
              Something reminds me of this PP-90 .... what
              1. +5
                April 30 2019 01: 31
                So the PP-90 was ripped off of him.
                1. +5
                  April 30 2019 09: 18
                  Quite rightly noticed! hi
  5. +5
    April 30 2019 09: 29
    Thanks to Vyacheslav Olegich. hi
    Live I saw the "Universal" Hotchkiss only at the guys in the weapons department of Mosfilm. And how he got there and where it came from is also unknown. It didn't work out to shoot him, although he was in perfect condition (something with a drummer), but with folding and unfolding all his fingers were stripped off. And in general, a heavy and very uncomfortable machine. He was later filmed in our series (I don't remember the name) about a fictional country in Lat. America, terrorists were driving in some general there. They shot from the balcony at the car with a show-off, but the actors just shook their hands pretending to recoil, and the roar of shots was stuck already during the voice acting. smile
    1. +2
      April 30 2019 18: 44
      Hello my friend!

      The Americans have several firms specializing in the enrichment of military weapons for Hollywood.

      He is there, they go under the order to buy military weapons and ... the heart is drenched with blood - they spoil it for firing with (strangers) blank cartridges, so that already 100% no one could put a regular cartridge into it.

      But in their fighters the weapon shoots either ... a mock-up is made that looks similar to the model, which imitates shooting with light and smoke effects, and then this is not 100%, but 200%.

      drinks
      1. 0
        1 May 2019 08: 41
        And in Star Wars, Han Solo's laser blaster was made from a Mauser ...
        1. +1
          1 May 2019 11: 40
          In Alien-2, a 10mm machine gun was made from Tommigan.
  6. +5
    April 30 2019 09: 48
    Glad you liked it! And ... lucky for you.
  7. +2
    April 30 2019 11: 50
    only it is read by Luigi Franchi, not Franchi. I had a gun of this company. smooth barrel 12 gauge chambered for Magnum 12 * 76 mm.
    1. +1
      April 30 2019 18: 34
      ... only it is read by Luigi Franchi, not Franchi ...


      I remember the movie "Showgirls":

      - You have a beautiful dress.
      - This is "Versasi"!
      - We must say "Versace".

      drinks
      1. +2
        April 30 2019 23: 24
        Christ is Risen Konyaga wink I haven’t seen each other by the way) God bless you like a grill, from all evil) I hope we spent holidays in nature? ) and remains to be celebrated) I was glad to meet)
        1. +1
          1 May 2019 11: 42
          Have a nice one you too!

          hi
  8. +2
    April 30 2019 18: 27
    You spoil us with goodies, Vyacheslav.

    Thank you!

    hi

    I don’t know why a number of manufacturers released PP, where there is no handle on the shutter, but only a hole for the finger. The designers didn’t guess that the bolt would warm up from shooting and put a finger in it - will there be little desire? You can, of course, and a cartridge instead of a finger ... but ... somehow not humanly.

    Or does the shutter not heat up?

    Yes
    1. +1
      April 30 2019 18: 55
      Inspired by memories of the South Korean film "Unshot" about an episode of the Korean War, where South Korean students tried to fight back the North Korean troops and ... Soviet military specialists. Not the point.

      There, in the story, a Korean student is shown how to charge the Garand M1 with a pack of 8 rounds.

      - Look, you insert a pack here, so ... and now you press your finger to the end. Just do not forget to quickly remove your finger, otherwise you will remain without a finger.

      Putting your finger into the mechanism of the weapon somehow ... not humanly.
    2. 0
      1 May 2019 07: 36
      Ha! I have never read anywhere that the shutter is warming and burning my fingers ...
      1. +1
        1 May 2019 12: 55
        Read one thing ... now let’s release a car-another-third-third with PP ... Even with a pistol, the shutter is heated somewhere up to 50+ degrees after several magazines of 15-17 rounds at a fast pace. This is at our usual temperature of 20 degrees and colder. And if the climate is hot and 40+ degrees?

        I didn’t have to shoot more than 50 rounds at a time, but I suspect that the PP shoots more rounds on average than I do with a pistol.

        hi
        1. 0
          2 May 2019 21: 14
          There is a saying: Stock pocket does not rub!
          1. 0
            2 May 2019 21: 23
            My point is that my gun with 50 rounds is heated, and the PP with even more is heated even more.

            I never shot an exercise with a running leg for more than 50 rounds. These 50 rounds fly out in a minute and certainly less than two minutes, no matter how braked I am that day. The gun after 50 rounds in 1-2 minutes is very hot.
    3. 0
      2 May 2019 15: 46
      Designers construct, not shoot. Why do they need it?
      1. 0
        2 May 2019 21: 30
        Sometimes a bullet of a cartridge of the same caliber fits into this recess. Say, ammo is always there - take it. Derny patron.

        The use of a cartridge as a tool is still loved by designers. The 9x19 cartridge is used at pMag9 stores to remove the magazine cover. The 5,56x45 cartridge is used on the Par Mk3 carbine for folding the trigger guard. The cartridge flange is used on some sights as a screwdriver to adjust drums.
  9. +1
    April 30 2019 19: 46
    Thanks to the author for all the new types of previously unknown to me submachine guns. In my opinion, this class of weapons has more unique systems than others.
    1. +1
      1 May 2019 07: 37
      Of course! Make a rifle more expensive. And then he dialed the pipes, sat down at the lathe and ... done!
  10. +2
    1 May 2019 13: 47
    The French "Universal" is a living embodiment of the psychology of France as a state during the Second World War; shrink to the minimum volume and lose the ability to fight, but compact and safe. And then - pretentiously decompose into a combat-ready position, while showing extremely average results.
    1. 0
      2 May 2019 21: 13
      Very interesting thought, bravo!
    2. -2
      3 May 2019 15: 14
      Quote: AllBiBek
      living embodiment of the psychology of France as a state during the WWII

      I did not know that France participated in the Second World War.
      Quote: AllBiBek
      And after that - pathosly decompose into a combat-ready position, while showing extremely average results.

      Yeah. And these "average results" are still the envy of those (most of humanity) who cannot reach them in any way. And they can't even reach half. And even a quarter.
      And many do not even reach the tenth part. Such are the "average results".
      1. 0
        5 May 2019 17: 30
        "Normandy-Niemen? No, you haven't heard!" But so, yes, I admit, he got lost. Regarding the very mediocre military achievements of France, what do you disagree with? From Southeast Asia, France was pulled out very quickly, and if the French knew how and wanted to fight, it would not have cost them so little blood and in such a short time. This does not detract from their potential, including the military one: France became the second country to independently develop its nuclear weapons, and the fourth to adopt them. True, at the same time the second one, who sells it (you can't do anything about it, gesheft is gesheft), but these are already details.
  11. 0
    1 May 2019 19: 17
    Folding PP is the original stupidity of customers or designers. Pull out the store - here you have the compactness. The complexity of the design is reduced reliability.
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  13. 0
    2 May 2019 10: 04
    The French still had a folding miracle MGD PM-9
  14. 0
    2 May 2019 21: 15
    Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

    To read one thing ... here let out a shop fire-another-third with PP

    I have no other sources of information.
    1. 0
      6 May 2019 19: 06
      Dear Vyacheslav. please tell me the email address mail of the VO website where you send your materials. I wrote an article that would complement the cycle of your articles on PP. But I don’t know how to send them there. Thank you in advance, your regular reader.
    2. 0
      7 May 2019 11: 39
      I placed the text, but the photo does not work.
  15. -1
    3 May 2019 14: 54
    The army wanted weapons under the 9x19 mm Parabellum cartridge, with an effective range of up to 200 m.

    Do not receive 200 m from the DEP steam cartridge. And from the patron of the wartime couple, all the more.
    The modern Steam (P +) cartridge for PP provides a DEP of about 100 m. This is a normal niche indicator for PP.
    Effective range up to 150-200 m.

    Apparently the range of the actual fire.

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