Israeli probe leads to the moon a scientist from the USSR who does not believe in evolution

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Israeli probe "Bereshit" flies to the moon. The first private lunar module completed the next maneuver to enter the satellite orbit and, according to forecasts, should be moored on April 11.

Israeli probe leads to the moon a scientist from the USSR who does not believe in evolution




On Monday morning, the spacecraft made another maneuver in the direction of the moon. The Bereshit engines were activated for 72 seconds: the probe adjusted its course to the Earth satellite. Right now, ground control teams are checking if the probe will require additional maneuvers.

Maneuver t. The "capture of the moon" will take place on Thursday, April 4. During it, the Israeli probe will be trapped in the gravitational pull of a celestial body, after which it will land on its surface.

On Monday, Bereshit flew for the last time near Earth, approximately 1600 kilometers in elliptical orbit. In the course of his approach, he made a frame of the globe



Bereshit was launched from the Florida cosmodrome 22 in February; its launch vehicle was the Space X Falcon 9 of the company Space X Ilona Mask. The lunar probe used a nonstandard scheme of sending to the satellite - it, in order to save fuel and gain the necessary speed, approaches the Earth satellite in an elliptical orbit. It takes more time, but the process itself is less expensive in terms of the use of fuel resources.

The flight did not always go smoothly: the second maneuver of the device, scheduled for February 26 (the first was 24), failed to make the probe. However, engineers and programmers were able to fix the problem, after which the spacecraft was operating normally.

According to the forecast, after pruning, the probe will make one jump over the surface and measure the weak magnetic fields of the moon with a special device. Professor Oded Aronson of the Weizmann Institute, in collaboration with the UCLA and NASA in America, leads the research. The data will be transmitted to the mission control center of the American Aerospace Agency, after which the probe will work for a maximum of a couple of days and shut down: to save weight, it was deprived of thermal insulation.

The peculiarity of "Bereshit" is that the probe does not set itself overly ambitious targets. A private project, a former participant in the Google Lunar X PRIZE initiative, managed to raise more than 90 a million dollars to launch. State participation was less than 3%. If the unit safely reaches the moon, then Israel will become the fourth country to successfully land on Earth’s satellite - and the first to send a private mission there.

In addition, the Israelis initially stated that the main purpose of the flight was not exploratory.

Our main mission is to arouse interest among schoolchildren in the study of exact sciences, such as mathematics, physics, chemistry, and others.


- Alexander Fridman, the chief systems engineer of the project, said in an interview with the Israeli radio station KAN RECA. Friedman came from the USSR, he was 68 years old, he came to Israel in 1970, in the wake of the repatriation of Jews from the Soviet Union. His father was a refusal, and belonged to the "Chabad" [intra-Jewish religious movement, also called Lubavich Hasidism - ed.].

Friedman is also religious, part of his faith carries with him the apparatus, for which he is responsible: on board the "Bereshit" is a flash drive with Jewish religious texts, in particular - with the Old Testament.

Alexander Fridman is a graduate of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. In the army, Friedman developed missiles, retired with the rank of captain, was one of the first participants in the Israeli space program to launch the Ofek satellite in 1988 year. The system engineer of the project is, in fact, a bright quintessence of contradictions and images of the Israeli society itself: according to the website of the Lyubavich Hasidim moshiach.ru, the scientist who sent the device to the Moon does not believe in evolution for religious reasons.

In essence, with its educational project, Israel wants to achieve two goals. First, it is so-called. “The Apollo Effect” - the flight and landing of American astronauts on the Apollo 11 spacecraft dramatically increased the interest of US students and students in the exact and natural sciences.

With the launch of Bereshit, Israel hopes to captivate a new generation, and instead of lawyers and managers, get more engineers, technicians and programmers. To this end, the team of the SpaceIl Foundation regularly traveled to schools, attracted student groups to work on the project, and actively covered its activities.

Google has already said that despite the fact that the Google Lunar X PRIZE competition did not take place (the winner should have received 20 million dollars within its framework), the Bereshit team would receive 1 million dollars in case of reaching the satellite surface.
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  1. +16
    April 2 2019 14: 58
    Keep your fists, soft landing!
    1. +13
      April 2 2019 15: 27
      Normally everything will be there, and if not, then this is also normal. In such things, it is difficult to do everything from the first call without overlays. And now it’s just a joke - when the Arabs fly to the moon for the first time, the Jews, with full awareness of their innocence, will tell them that they have nothing to do here and that they were before the Arabs, and they will confirm everything, as well.
      1. +2
        April 2 2019 19: 43
        And at the expense of increasing the interest of students in the exact sciences - I doubt it.
        When the Americans flew, there was such a show! Imitations of permanent breakdowns with a detailed explanation of what was being repaired (the top of this was the manufacture of a filter using the cotton socks of one of the astronauts). The whole world was in suspense around the clock. So when they sat down, such a wave of feelings swept through!
        And the Jews have little action. Only once "the connection was lost". And there is little advertising. Yes, and there were many on the moon before them. Doubt the increase in interest.
        1. +2
          April 2 2019 21: 05
          Quote: Shurik70
          Yes, and there were many on the moon before them. I doubt the increase in interest.
          I think for those countries, and probably no more than a couple of percent of all the states on the planet who have been exploring space for a long time, every start is not an ordinary case, then this is a landmark event for beginners, and therefore, any surge of interest is aroused. Look even here at VO (Russian-speaking military-patriotic resource) at the moment the article has elicited a response of 60 comments.
          1. -1
            April 2 2019 21: 16
            Oh yeah. I am also for the development of science, and that astronautics froze for half a century in development, I consider it a tragedy. But I am not a child. And I am always interested in the latest in space.

            The article is about children. What is more important now for children interested in science, another one hundred and five hundredth satellite somewhere somewhere where it will not soon be possible to fly to them personally? Or is it that a couple of additional cores in the latest commercial processor, already on sale, are considered more important for science in general and for them personally?
    2. 0
      April 3 2019 06: 23
      Well done, the Israelis did a good and necessary job. I wish them great success!
      And if after this launch, among the Israeli youth, at least 1000 people will be interested in engineering, then in 10-15 years Israel will receive 100 (or maybe more) high-class engineers and programmers. And given the attitude in Israel towards specialists - engineers who are involved in aviation and astronautics, the salaries of these engineers will be appropriate. And no Friedman from Israel to Russia to work in Roskosmos will ever run away.
  2. +1
    April 2 2019 15: 00
    Do the Lubavitcher Hasidim themselves believe in Darwin? it’s not clear why they should say that.
    1. +3
      April 2 2019 15: 10
      They believe Hasidim is a separate issue. And very serious.
      1. +3
        April 2 2019 15: 14
        It’s strange somehow, but it’s their business, it doesn’t concern us and our respect for you.
      2. +1
        April 2 2019 16: 37
        Quote: Shahno
        They believe Hasidim is a separate issue. And very serious.

        What and for whom is serious?
  3. +5
    April 2 2019 15: 01
    A feature of Bereshit is that the probe does not set unnecessarily ambitious goals.

    Just take away the nature of the boundaries of the lunar section under a small kibbutz and synagogue! fellow
  4. -1
    April 2 2019 15: 04
    They already fly and where we are
    1. +5
      April 2 2019 15: 18
      where where ... in Karaganda (and this is putting it mildly) ... the only tangible real on the way is our Kazachok landing module of the ExoMars-2020 station - I really look forward to at least this success. The European rover will roll off into a red haze.
      1. -2
        April 2 2019 19: 17
        I swear no bread in Karaganda bully
    2. +9
      April 2 2019 15: 32
      We are fighting with India for the 4 line in world launches.

      Here is this PSLV - pulled out by a reconnaissance satellite and litter 28 with cubes and other satellites collected by doubles from social school №293 from San Francisco laughing . In addition to jokes, there are as many as Two - a slower satellite compiled by students of Vilnius University.


      Current standings:
      USA - 6 (5 + 1 Electron which is still the American company Rocketlab, by the way Beck recently said that the first rocket from the Wallops / Virginia island this year)
      China is 5, but one rocket Flickered, private from OneSpace is the first launch.
      Europe - 3, all successful (Arian, Vega and Union).
      Russia - 2 Union, one with the astronauts, the other with the Egyptian satellite (+ launch of the Arian group with the Kuru).
      India - 2 PSLV.

      Yes, you can shuffle rockets for Arians, but in any case, a little change.

      Launcher program:
      - Progress on the ISS
      - one of the last bundles of SES

      Hindus:
      - Another cartographic satellite + space debris from students and schoolchildren.
      - Another Risat for the military.
      - One rocket for Spaceflight Industries (they bring their cartographer / photographer). A total of 10 satellites according to the program, but there they smashed cunningly. Hindus seem to have only 20% so far with the option to bring to 50% if successful.

      Lunokhod left for May. However, in general, this year's program on 14-16 missiles from the Indians (last 7). Let's see how much will be by the end of the year? wink And will the lunar rover fly?
      1. +2
        April 3 2019 00: 24
        Quote: donavi49


        Launcher program:
        - Progress on the ISS
        - one of the last bundles of SES


        Are you lying again? About the Russian launches? laughing

        Russia already has two Soyuz-4 launches tomorrow, April 2, from Baikonur with Progress MS-11 and from the Kuru GCC with O3b satellites, ordered by Arianspace. The missiles are already in the UK.

        Further, in mid-May, another Glonass-M satellite flies to replace, on May 23 the next and last in the group of geostationary satellites "Blagovest No. 4" and on May 31 the commercial "Yamal-601".

        On June 21, the launch of the international astrophysical observatory "Spectrum-RG" at the Lagrange point L2, which is beyond the Moon, and on June 27, the launch of the meteorological "Meteora-M 2-2" with 40 Russian and foreign small spacecraft in the cluster from "Vostochny", and then "Messengers" on "Roar".
        1. +2
          April 3 2019 08: 23
          So, I wrote the exact same thing:
          - Progress on the ISS, will begin the hellish 20 days at the station. When you have to take the 3 truck, unload them, take the equipment, install it.

          - about a bunch of SES, I really lied, writing one of the last. The latter under the contract. This is sad. Now Arian and Roskosmos will be praying on OneWeb. Last stable international customer. But Arian is still hoping to take off in the market with Arian6.

          Hindus plan to launch 3 in the foreseeable future (25-30 days). I pointed them out.
          Roscosmos - 1. Plus Arian is the latest package for SES.

          The general launch of the Indians - 14-16 missiles. It will be interesting how much they can. Will the lunar rover fly, etc.

          By the way - it will be interesting to see Starlink in May. Earn or not. If Musk does not accelerate, then he will lose the market, because he will be the second. But if Musk accelerates, then OneWeb will run even more actively and buy all the rockets that can launch 500kg. For the winner will receive all the cream and beat off any costs.
          1. -1
            April 4 2019 13: 19
            Firstly, contracts with foreign customers are concluded regularly and launches take place when their payload is ready. For example, just a few days ago, Glavkosmos Launch Services signed another contract for launching the Challenge ONE satellite for Tunisia with the prospect of the subsequent launch of a satellite constellation of 30 spacecraft.
            Secondly, domestic companies have also begun to order commercial launches on domestic missiles. For example, the joint-stock company Gazprom Space Systems has ordered Alenia Space France from Thales and has already received a new satellite, Yamal-601. The launch of this spacecraft in May.

  5. 3vs
    +13
    April 2 2019 15: 05
    "With the launch of Bereshit, Israel hopes to captivate a new generation and get more engineers, technicians and programmers instead of lawyers and managers."
    A worthy goal!
    It would be nice if the same enthusiasts were found in Russia!
    1. +2
      April 2 2019 15: 14
      So it seems that such programs work for us and today the prestige of the engineer is growing and very confident.
      1. 0
        April 4 2019 10: 52
        Quote: cniza
        Today, the prestige of the engineer is growing and very confident.
        And do you believe in these tales?
    2. +13
      April 2 2019 16: 39
      Quote: 3vs
      It would be nice if the same enthusiasts were found in Russia!
      We have enthusiasts such as Gref and Fursenko. “Former Minister Fursenko made it clear that“ ... our task is to raise a qualified consumer. ”Gref:“ We are trying to reproduce the old Soviet, absolutely useless model of education - stuffing children with a huge amount of knowledge. ”Someone else believes, that if our ship has not sunk yet, then there is no hole in it, and the pumps do not drive water inside?
      1. +2
        April 2 2019 17: 44
        Chubais with its nanotechnology has long been on Mars, it's just that the technologies are so creative that nobody just sees them and they already exist ....
  6. +1
    April 2 2019 15: 07
    Some religious Jews believe that Darwin’s theory does not contradict Judaism.
    1. +3
      April 2 2019 15: 37
      They are flexible guys. For example, about dinosaurs millions of years ago. They say: “Who knows how long the first year after Creation was? Maybe it lasted 100 million years?
      Like, how long did the physicists last second after the Big Bang? wink
      Therefore, they have Darwin and his monkeys, and the Bible with its Adam and Eve are all the works of God ...
      1. +4
        April 2 2019 15: 55
        I am aware))) And six days of the creation of the world is not necessarily 24 hours x 6 days, etc.
        1. Sky
          +3
          April 2 2019 19: 20
          It’s a pity that not everyone is aware of what was explained 2000 years ago.
          "That one thing must not be hidden from you, beloved, that the Lord has one day as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3: 8)
          And some especially gifted even tried to find out from Gagarin whether he had seen God in space or not. laughing
  7. +3
    April 2 2019 15: 12
    They would plant some Apollo next to the landing site, and take a picture of what was there))
    1. +6
      April 2 2019 15: 39
      It will land (if possible) near the Apollo 15 landing site. But he does not "jump" to her. fellow
      1. +1
        April 2 2019 15: 45
        Is it in the lunar region of the Apennines? So at least within the reach of the cameras, at the same time let's see if the Apennines can take a picture)
      2. +1
        April 2 2019 15: 46
        Will there be no video recording during the "jump"? what
      3. +3
        April 2 2019 17: 16
        It is a pity that he does not "jump"! I would very much like to see the presence (or absence) of certain "artifacts" of the presence of "minke whales" on the Moon ...
        Moonhopper and good luck to the team!
        1. +3
          April 2 2019 19: 26
          Quote: Yngvar
          It is a pity that he does not "jump"!
          Who cares? Conspiroles think of something. For example ... the jumper is launched by the Americans, they could screw a repeater instead of a camera into a quiet one ... or ... Israel is a US satellite, he cannot dip his master’s face into the mud ...
        2. 0
          April 2 2019 21: 40
          Quote: Yngvar
          It is a pity that he does not "jump"! I would very much like to see the presence (or absence) of certain "artifacts" of the presence of "minke whales" on the Moon ...
          Moonhopper and good luck to the team!
          \
          Well, in order to find them, you just need to dig a little. The problem is that usually Americans are not on the moon, people say without any scientific education. You know that, for example, if we approach the parameters, which supporters of the theory of the Lunar conspiracy approach to the question, Gagarin’s flight has a lot more complaints.
  8. +6
    April 2 2019 15: 12
    “Our main mission is to arouse interest among schoolchildren in studying the exact sciences, such as mathematics, physics, chemistry and others.


    Noble goal.
  9. +2
    April 2 2019 15: 13
    Well, the project is not entirely private.
  10. -4
    April 2 2019 15: 20
    "As he approached, he took a picture of the globe."

    But on this frame of the globe, could not find Israel. wink
    1. +6
      April 2 2019 15: 54
      Quote: askort154
      "As he approached, he took a picture of the globe."

      But on this frame of the globe, could not find Israel. wink

      Alas. You can’t argue that it’s easier for you. Your area is 722 times larger than that of Israel.
      1. +7
        April 2 2019 16: 06
        Aaron Zaavi .....Alas. You can’t argue that it’s easier for you. Your area is 722 times larger than that of Israel.

        Even the Jewish Autonomous Region in the Russian Federation, there will be more of Israel. Everyone would have enough space, but I'm afraid you are there, and you won’t get along with the Chinese. They are older
        you, a couple of thousand years. wink hi
      2. +2
        April 2 2019 16: 08
        But your life is sweeter bully
        1. +2
          April 2 2019 16: 24
          For pioneers and retirees is still sweeter. For the middle class - starting with its lower bar - too. For the "rich" and with connections - on the one hand, it is more interesting in Russia, on the other - everywhere their "charms".
    2. +1
      April 2 2019 17: 39
      Quote: askort154
      But on this frame of the globe, could not find Israel.

      Hid in the clouds.
    3. +1
      April 2 2019 21: 41
      Quote: askort154
      But on this frame of the globe, could not find Israel.

      Rain clouds hid
  11. +2
    April 2 2019 15: 48
    "Israeli probe leads a scientist from the USSR to the Moon who does not believe in evolution"
    What are you talking about, the Jews do not even believe in their god.
    1. +1
      April 2 2019 16: 10
      Quote: Shahno
      What are you speaking about

      About the wanderings of the eternal and the Earth ...
  12. 0
    April 2 2019 17: 18
    With the launch of Bereshit, Israel hopes to captivate a new generation, and instead of lawyers and managers get more engineers, technicians and programmers.

    In Russia, this is also a sore subject after the collapse of the USSR.
    I remember many good specialists trained in the USSR who escaped to Israel, Israel did not even say thank you ..
    Okay, it's too late to wave fists .. Well done Israel! hi
    1. +4
      April 2 2019 19: 25
      Quote: KontrLiber
      Well done Israel!

      I can’t believe my eyes that I am reading these lines!
      Ai-yai-yay, who could it be?
      1. -1
        April 2 2019 19: 45
        Quote: Dym71
        I can’t believe my eyes that I am reading these lines!

        Rejoice for now ... I'm good today! wink
        1. 0
          April 2 2019 20: 20
          This will be more fun)))
        2. +3
          April 2 2019 21: 00
          Quote: KontrLiber
          I'm good today!

          And where did it happen? Which gedz bit you? wassat
          1. -1
            April 2 2019 21: 07
            Quote: Dym71
            Quote: KontrLiber
            I'm good today!

            And where did it happen? Which gedz bit you? wassat

            The weather will change dramatically and I don’t feel very well .. hi
            Sometimes you need to give praise though .. lol
            (Kalinka-Malinka pathetic blocked everywhere ..))) There was a good dance and sincere ..)))
            1. +2
              April 2 2019 21: 28
              Quote: KontrLiber
              Kalinka - Mulinka pathetic blocked everywhere

              hold, "Art does not burn!" (from) laughing
              1. -2
                April 2 2019 21: 35
                Quote: Dym71
                hold, "Art does not burn!"

                Thank you, you know my weaknesses .. good bully
    2. -4
      April 2 2019 22: 00
      Quote: KontrLiber
      I remember a lot of good specialists trained in the USSR in Israel

      Not escaped, but flew away.
      And at the request of the indigenous population, even now, the remnants are very hindering them from living. And thank you for that, we always talk. Personally, I regret that all this happened late.
  13. 0
    April 2 2019 17: 21
    Friedman is also religious, part of his faith carries with him the apparatus for whose work he is responsible: on board the Bereshit there is a flash drive with Jewish religious texts
    So yes, he hopes that there is at least one Jew on the moon or not ??? Nonsense, a deeply religious person, by studying the Cosmos and other planets, really destroys the old and "eternal" postulates about the birth of God and divine control of the world ...
    1. Sky
      +1
      April 2 2019 19: 26
      How interesting is the comprehension of the mysteries of the universe created by God can destroy some postulates? Well, if only by "god" you mean a kind grandfather with a beard and a magic wand. There are a lot of believers among scientists - one does not interfere with the other at all, and I am now talking not about historical examples, but the modern scientific community.
      1. +1
        April 2 2019 19: 39
        But I thought that the theory of the "Big Bang" is closer to real scientists, physicists and astronomers, that they are more materialists and realists, who know more the basic laws of physics than biblical tales laughing ...
        1. +1
          April 2 2019 19: 48
          So the "Big Bang" that created the diversity and interaction of the Universe and our Solar System and the Earth in particular is the One for all GOD, who controls the entire living and non-living world with the help of radiation, radiation, heat, cold, light and many more cataclysms, diseases and disasters ...
          1. Sky
            +1
            April 2 2019 20: 18
            It seems to me a fairy tale that the very formulation of the question that something exploded out of "nothing" and then self-organized. So God is this organizing principle, the essence that established the laws of the existence of the universe. Moreover, she is not obliged to obey these laws; therefore, an attempt to prove the existence of God using human logic and methods of scientific knowledge is absurd. An even greater fairy tale seems to me to be an attempt to explain the miraculous transformation of a monkey into a man who lands spaceships on neighboring planets. I would rather believe in the degradation of man to the level of a monkey. In general, it is meaningless to deny evolution, as well as the existence of facts from the animal world that refute this theory. Let the scientists do their work, looking for answers.
            Watch this mesmerizing video about the scale of the universe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdsTrrmNJo&feature=youtu.be
            It is very useful to understand that God is much more than people usually imagine, his "attachment" to the solar system, the sun and the earth brings only a smile.
            1. 0
              April 2 2019 20: 30
              Well, why immediately smile, I repeat. God is a powerful bunch of nuclear energy, magnetic fields and radiation of thousands of suns and planets of the Universe, it all interacts in a single system and controls the life of a little man on Earth and can not only on it, God is faceless. Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, Shiva- it’s just a representation of many peoples about him, like a folklore humanization of these forces of the Great Cosmos .....
              1. Sky
                0
                April 2 2019 20: 35
                About a smile, this is not for me personally, but in the order of reasoning, it’s just that many people really primitize His essence. I agree with your definition of God as a whole smile Only Buddha is Siddhartha Gautama, a simple person who has achieved enlightenment, he is superfluous here)
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            2. 0
              April 2 2019 23: 15
              Quote: Skye
              Moreover, she is not obliged to obey these laws, so the attempt to prove the existence of God using human logic and methods of scientific knowledge is absurd.




              Metaphysics begins where human logic is not true at the last resort.
        2. +2
          April 2 2019 20: 25
          "Religion and natural science are not mutually exclusive, as some people now think or fear, but complement and condition each other ..."
          Max Planck, Nobel Laureate, father of quantum physics.
        3. +1
          April 2 2019 21: 56
          Quote: anjey
          But I thought that the theory of the "Big Bang" is closer to real scientists, physicists and astronomers, that they are more materialists and realists, who know more the basic laws of physics than biblical tales laughing ...

          Taki revised the series with Sheldon)). The bulk of scientists in the West are believers, because believe that without the intervention of a Higher Power, our universe would not have arisen. Too meager fraction of the probability of an accidental occurrence of the world.
          1. +1
            April 3 2019 04: 59
            Serials have nothing to do with their vision of God described above ....
            1. 0
              April 3 2019 08: 05
              Already seen.
        4. 0
          April 3 2019 12: 40
          The whole joke is that some Jewish Orthodox
          they are - scientists of physics - excellent
          they study / know both the Big Bang theory and the Bible / Torah.
          They somehow tie everything together. "Big Bang" - and who made it?
          Who pressed the "button"? Creator-daddy God. laughing
          Among mathematicians, things are even "worse". There in all sorts of Stanfords and
          Harvard percentage of religious professors (world renowned, not seedy)
          rolls over. Many mathematicians think (not all are recognized wink ),
          that pure math is so beautiful that is
          "the creation of God." fellow
          1. 0
            April 3 2019 14: 48
            You are saying that the time of religious obscurantism and persecution of science has passed, these two eternal rivals have reconciled, but today it’s scary that the time has come for political obscurantism .....
  14. +7
    April 2 2019 17: 37
    During his approach, he took a frame of the globe

    Duc, well, is the Earth still round and spinning? belay wassat
    1. +1
      April 2 2019 18: 04
      So Catholics only had problems with this laughing
      1. +3
        April 2 2019 18: 08
        Quote: Krasnodar
        So Catholics only had problems with this

        Not. I climbed recently on youtube. A lot of people are suffering there about this. Regardless of religion.
        1. +2
          April 2 2019 18: 16
          No, well, the Moon made of cheese and a flat Earth are logical, but suffering, suffering and tormenting because of the general rejection of such obvious things is not an indicator of mental health. )))
          1. +2
            April 2 2019 18: 28
            Here from fresh:
            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/geologika/bolshoe-interviu-s-ploskozemelscikom-chast-ii-5c90879b6243ec00b4c360c0
            Speaking of mental health.
            1. +2
              April 2 2019 18: 39
              laughing good Oh yes telescopes do not exist!
              Quote: Vasyan1971
              Here from fresh:
              https://zen.yandex.ru/media/geologika/bolshoe-interviu-s-ploskozemelscikom-chast-ii-5c90879b6243ec00b4c360c0
              Speaking of mental health.
              1. +1
                April 2 2019 19: 38
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Oh yes telescopes do not exist!

                Og wassat And all the cameras are equipped with settling matrices - right before our eyes, the image quality decreases fellow
                The main thing now is not to write anything about monitors on the network stop And then the world government will read and cut us all permission - goodbye to a good grafon ...

                Eh ... What do people have in their brains? Or instead of brains? ..
              2. +2
                April 3 2019 00: 45
                I came across (not specifically looking for) at the beginning of a fascinating conversation:
                https://zen.yandex.ru/media/geologika/bolshoe-interviu-s-ploskozemelscikom-chast-i-5c90841b2aa93200b3124bd3
                I love to read comments after such articles!
  15. +3
    April 2 2019 18: 09
    For example, I have great respect for Charles Darwin and the "origin of species" - a very cool work, but in the same way I have great doubts about "evolution", all the findings rather speak of a "revolutionary" theory, or rather, sharp genetic leaps and mutations, and not gradual transformation, otherwise where are the transitional species with semi-lasto-semi-legs?
    Yes, and Darwin was also a devout person, and he spoke about the theory of evolution that this is a tool with which God created living diversity on earth)))
    1. +3
      April 2 2019 19: 31
      Quote: Bshkaus
      where are the transitional species with half-elasto-half legs?
      "The origin of species is a rather ancient work, although it has been written for more than a dozen years.
      Try reading something newer (preferably younger than 10 years) - recently new opportunities have opened up in the analysis of large amounts of data.
      1. -1
        April 2 2019 23: 24
        Quote: Simargl
        "The origin of species is a rather ancient work,

        Not just ancient - from the point of view of modern science - it's something like antiquity))))
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      1. +2
        April 2 2019 20: 29
        Respected! I’ll open my eyes to you — you are behind the times, at least from science, 70-80 years old!

        Look, for the new year I was presented with two volumes of the book "Sapiens - a short history of mankind" and "Sapiens - homoDeus" by a certain Yuval Noah Harari (also an Israeli, by the way). The books of 2012 and 2015, on the cover of the comments by Bill Geitz and other "aces" promising the enormous scientific value of this book as a new look at the development of society, the book is considered a bestseller.
        I read both - the level of the textbook on social psychology for the 2nd year, but very deep, interesting and competent, but still the textbook is no more ...
        The main leitmotif of these works: There is no God, Darwin's theory is forever! I mean, Darwinism is very popular. The author is even very skillful (you really can’t argue within the framework of Darwinism), he justified homosexuality (which he is), referring to the fact that not all organs in the course of evolution perform their original functions.
        For example, Oparin’s theory with its coacervative drops and world broth is very convincing for me personally, but maybe this is also not so. Science is a complicated thing)))
        1. +1
          April 2 2019 23: 14
          Quote: Bshkaus
          I mean, Darwinism is very popular.

          Well, Darwinism is not equal to Darwin's theory of evolution, however paradoxical it sounds! Darwinism is a generalized course in evolutionary biology that accepts the main postulate of Darwin's theory of the main driving forces of evolution in the face competition between living organisms generated by it natural selection, variabilitygiving material for that very selection and heredity, which allows you to transfer the occurred changes to descendants. That is, in fact, everything that modern "Darwinism" inherited from classical Darwin, everything else has undergone strong changes, and in some places it has been completely revised. Darwin, for example, knew nothing about the mechanisms of heredity and variability, although Gregor Mendel was his contemporary, Darwin considered the entire species as an elementary unit of evolution, although at the beginning of the 20th century S.S. Chetverikov showed that this very unit is not a species, but a separate population of this species, and there is still a lot of this.

          Quote: Bshkaus
          For example, Oparin’s theory with its coacervative drops and world broth is very convincing for me personally, but maybe this is also not so. Science is a complicated thing)))

          Here we are already calling on the theory of the origin of life, which is separate a theory that has not yet been sufficiently developed, and should not be confused with the theory of evolution of this very life.

          Py.Sy .: It's strange why they deleted my last comment in this thread ...
          1. +1
            April 3 2019 19: 09
            Py.Sy .: It's strange why they deleted my last comment in this thread ...
            It is also strange that you put cons, personally from me a big plus for the discussion)))
            I completely agree with the transformation of Darwinism.
            1. 0
              April 3 2019 19: 18
              Quote: Bshkaus
              It is also strange that you put cons, personally from me a big plus for the discussion)))
              I completely agree with the transformation of Darwinism.

              Then catch me fat plus hi An interesting topic was raised))) And the fact that someone made me drawbacks does not matter - there are many people with a very "strange" view of biology, who at the same time deliberately ignore the facts of objective reality))))
        2. +1
          April 3 2019 12: 46
          Harari (I read both books) is a very cool guy.
          His "extended theory of evolution" is very, very
          interesting. There are controversial issues, but there are also real "grains of gold".
          Sketches about the future are also interesting.
          1. +2
            April 3 2019 19: 11
            There are controversial issues, but there are also real "grains of gold".
            Sketches about the future are also interesting.

            I agree in everything, an amazing book, a kind of alloy of contradictions and controversial moments with an interesting look at history.)))
    3. +1
      April 2 2019 23: 23
      Quote: Bshkaus
      about a "revolutionary" theory, or rather abrupt genetic leaps and mutations, and not a gradual transformation, otherwise where are the transitional species with semi-lasto-semi-legs?

      So the fact is that genetics have long shown that mutations can be very serious, for example, it has now been found that during the evolution of vertebrates in the early stages a global genomic mutation occurred, leading to a doubling of thousands of genes, which subsequently allowed these new copies of genes can be painlessly changed and adapted to perform new functions, which resulted in a serious complication of vertebrate organisms and determined their entire subsequent evolution.
      Such changes cannot be called only a revolution, since their full implementation nevertheless required a time duration of hundreds of generations of living organisms, although some changes can manifest themselves in the first generation.
      Actually all the moments described by me are stated in the synthetic theory of evolution.

      And about the transitional forms - so you google the history of the development of cetaceans - you will see "walking whales" with the very same semi-lasts, and modern pinnipeds (seals, walruses, etc.) are in many ways in the stage of transitional form to full-fledged flippers. Well, do not forget that the transitional form has simply not been dug out yet. Look - they dug up the same tiktaalika - a transitional form from a cross-finned fish with fins to an ichthyosteg with limbs))))
      1. +1
        April 3 2019 19: 16
        And about the transitional forms - so you google the history of the development of cetaceans - you will see "walking whales"

        I always bring a simple example to disgrace: show me at least 10 dolphin skeletons laid out in a row so that the nose hole for everyone moves smoothly to the back and it can be seen that this is a long centuries-old process.)))
        py.sy, plus from me again)))
        1. +2
          April 3 2019 19: 32
          Quote: Bshkaus
          I always bring a simple example to disgrace: show me at least 10 dolphin skeletons laid out in a row so that the nose hole for everyone moves smoothly to the back and it can be seen that this is a long centuries-old process.)))
          py.sy, plus from me again)))

          Here's the thing: to find such a series of skeletons, you need to take the most distant ancestral form, which might not have survived, and then you need to understand from whom exactly this same dolphin came from - after all, his ancestors were already swimming in the water.
          Specifically, according to the evolution of cetaceans, here's a link to a little material:
          https://haritonoff.livejournal.com/249404.html


          and here are a couple of transitional forms:
          The first ambulocetides:


          Ambulocetus natans (Ambulocetus natans):

          General view of the creature

          Note that the nostrils are already shifted to the upper side of the muzzle compared to its earlier relatives
          But later rhodocetus - limbs are already reduced:


          And here is the protocetus:


          Here we see a fairly smooth and gradual change in the shape of the body - it becomes more "fish-like", limbs are reduced. And what touches the nostrils - such a change could have happened and quickly enough - this part of the skull in cetaceans is cartilaginous, and therefore more plastic in terms of changes.
  16. 0
    April 2 2019 19: 44
    It is advisable to plant near the landing site of Apollo ..
    1. +3
      April 2 2019 21: 46
      Quote: Dzafdet

      It is advisable to plant near the landing site of Apollo ..


      Which one? There were several missions
      1. +2
        April 2 2019 22: 19
        Quote: Pimply
        Which one? There were several missions

        Yes, anyone, Eugene, do you think:
        Will Bereshit find out that the US is not fooling? wink
        1. +2
          April 3 2019 00: 29
          Quote: Dym71
          Yes, anyone, Eugene, do you think:
          Will Bereshit find out that the US is not fooling?

          What for? Especially considering that no one will wake up the conspiracy theorists anyway. Scientists already know what they were, and they still believe that they were not. 8))
  17. +4
    April 2 2019 22: 18
    Talent! At 19, he left for Izrail, not having had time to study at a Soviet university, but already becoming Soviet scientists those. wrote a minimum candidate. He does not recognize Darwin's theory, but it is not needed to create flying kerogases. This is for us, the humanities, how it is easier to trust Darwin when you get entangled in stratigraphy and geochronology from all kinds of faraminifera and stefanoceraides. The mammoth sleeps, the dog snores, and the ferocious trilobite, the six-eyed bite, also sleeps.
    1. +1
      April 3 2019 00: 12
      Quote: geologist
      The mammoth sleeps, the dog snores, and the ferocious trilobite, the six-eyed bite, also sleeps.

      Wonderful saying, I will use it, with your permission hi

      And in this:
      Quote: geologist
      At 19, he left for Izrail, not having had time to study at a Soviet university, but already becoming a Soviet scientist

      explains a lot.

      I was interested in the question: why moon jump, "jump"? Why not on wheels or, at worst, not walking? After all, a jump is more difficult and costly than wheels or even a step movement. As I see now, the author is a native of the USSR and, probably, is from Odessa. Imagine (read with an accent Odessa jokes)

      - Alexander, and what wheels of base, diameter, drives? Maybe "walking"?
      - Davidik, my cousin in my mother jumped from the KGB for 3 years throughout Odessa. So if he moved on wheels or walked, his precious Rose would have got his living space for 3 years rather. We will make him jumping. Judging by my cousin Monet, our lunar rover jumps longer than you and I can assume.

      I look forward to the moonlit wonderful Israeli offspring. Very interesting and exciting.
      1. +2
        April 3 2019 12: 55
        "After all, the jump is more difficult and expensive than the wheels" ////
        ----
        You touched on an interesting topic. good If the wheel was energetically
        more profitable, then insects and animals would ride on wheels, and
        did not walk on their feet.
        Over millions of years, evolution has come to optimal solutions.
        It's all about our primitive metal material technology.
        When structural materials become organic, then the era
        wheel dominance will end. The transport will have legs and smooth jumps. fellow
        Look at the movement of the spider on the ground, if you do not believe. Incredible speed
        smoothness and loading capacity (concerning the sizes). About patency
        and nothing to say.
        1. 0
          April 4 2019 19: 11
          Quote: voyaka uh
          You touched on an interesting topic. If the wheel was energetically
          more profitable, then insects and animals would ride on wheels, and
          did not walk on their feet.

          Not quite so - it's just extremely difficult for a living being to invent something similar to a wheel. And it is worth noting that evolution chooses only from what accidentally dropped out in the general "lottery" as a result of mutations and recombination of genes. So, for example, the flagellum of bacteria is a complete analogue of the propeller of modern ships, it even rotates around its own axis in the same way))))
          Quote: voyaka uh
          It's all about our primitive metal material technology.
          When structural materials become organic, then the era
          wheel dominance will end. The transport will have legs and smooth jumps.

          This is also a question - oddly enough. but humans will be among the largest animal organisms on our planet (if we count all multicellular animals), and our vehicles will therefore also be very large, which means that their weight will already be relatively large, increase the spider to the size of a car and its mover will become extremely ineffective, even if you leave its composition organic!
          By the way, the same spiders use natural hydraulics to extend their limbs))) This is to the question of the primitiveness of our technologies.
          1. 0
            April 4 2019 23: 41
            There is not only hydraulics. You won’t reach any hydraulics
            heights of flea jump from place. Her knee is natural
            pyro cartridge: something like an explosive electrochemical reaction.
            ----
            "enlarge the spider to the size of a car" ///
            ----
            Such spiders (almost such), by the way, were. Fossil remains found.
            And some dinosaurs were extremely mobile and jumping, despite their
            big sizes. Organic materials for the complex:
            lightness-flexibility-strength is hundreds of times superior to metals.
            We are technologically just "in diapers".
            Stuck for a thousand years in the Iron Age and very proud of it.
            1. 0
              April 5 2019 18: 56
              Quote: voyaka uh
              There is not only hydraulics. You won’t reach any hydraulics
              heights of flea jump from place. Her knee is natural
              pyro cartridge: something like an explosive electrochemical reaction.

              Well, this just in nature will surprise no one - the bombardier beetle naturally sprays an "explosive" mixture - two substances, mixing in air, give an explosive reaction with a huge release of heat.
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Such spiders (almost such), by the way, were. Fossil remains found.

              Yah? Is it possible to refer to just such a spider? The largest arthropods of arachnids in the land reached no more than 30 cm in the span of their paws. As for their mobility - have you ever seen a large migalomorphic spider like a tarantula move? So - they are very leisurely and are not inclined to jump. And the largest arthropod in general - the centipede arthropleura - was a maximum of 2,5 meters in length and half a meter in width - moving extremely slowly and leisurely.
              Quote: voyaka uh
              And some dinosaurs were extremely mobile and jumping, despite their
              big sizes.

              Movable, no matter how rhinos or giraffes are elephants. By the way, the hippopotamus - very mobile animals - overtakes a person at a time))) But the problem came up with jumping - only small dinosaurs, such as micro raptors, jumping from one branch to another and then giving rise to modern birds, were jumping.
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Organic materials for the complex:
              lightness-flexibility-strength is hundreds of times superior to metals.

              Oh, not a fact - organics have a lot of specific points, which is why not a single creature the size of a car can compete with it in terms of characteristics - it's about organic substances of natural origin. Regarding artificial organic substances - yes, they can be very interesting, although all of these fullerenes and fullerites themselves are also not very applicable, mainly the hope of their combination with the same metals. Organics she is - burns ...
        2. 0
          April 6 2019 00: 20
          Over millions of years, evolution has come to optimal solutions.
          It's all about our primitive metal material technology.

          You are absolutely right, Alexey. Someday everything will change. And, perhaps, changes will begin, as once, from the Fertile Crescent, where our ancestors were friends, feuded, tried to survive ... But at the moment, you must agree, the "jump" is more bragging than a "sight" on result.
  18. -2
    April 3 2019 05: 15
    Quote: Yngvar
    It is a pity that he does not "jump"! I would very much like to see the presence (or absence) of certain "artifacts" of the presence of "minke whales" on the Moon ...
    Moonhopper and good luck to the team!

    -do not ! because if there is nothing there, then another hysteria of the "Russian trace" will begin !!!
  19. 0
    April 3 2019 08: 14
    While our Jewish friends are mastering the technology of the Third Reich - flying on a satellite of the Earth with the help of von Braun / Dornberger kerosene guns, Putin and Trump became concerned about alien technologies. The other day, an old, shabby Tu 154 flew to the USA over the Nevada deserts and suspiciously circled near Base 51. Rogozin seems to have read a book about the Rockwell Incident and suspects that the light elves still have a plate with dwarf humanoids. In turn, the elves circled in Mordor over the Amur region. near the Bureya river, where a landslide of 25 million m3 suddenly occurred in the fierce winter. For some reason, the guys from Shoigu’s department cordoned off an ordinary landslide, and a figure of a fighter with a device resembling a radiometer flashed in the television report center. Well, why is it asked simple sappers, exploding a jumper to measure radiation. The Japanese added fuel to the fire, claiming some kind of temperature anomaly in the Bureinsky reservoir, and the mayor of a town next to a landslide talked either about a meteorite or about an alien ship. However, our scientists have refuted all these baseless fantasies of ordinary people. This is a landslide and a point - there are a lot of such in Siberia. I wonder how a landslide could form in rocks, in winter in the permafrost zone?
  20. 0
    April 3 2019 10: 42
    "Enlightenment" goals, this is the most important thing and what young people are doing. And the reasoning about Charles Darwin's theory will be left to other platforms, I think that there is no lack of them.
  21. K
    +1
    April 5 2019 14: 26
    It is very good that the magazine is tracking the space program not only in Russia, but also in other countries. Moreover, such an amazing one as Israeli. Unfortunately, the article on Bereshit has annoying inaccuracies.
    1. Absolutely any device approaches the moon in an elliptical orbit. Just because no other orbits are allowed by Kepler’s first law.
    2. Feature Bereshit is that in the TLI orbit (Trans Lunar Injection, a special elongated elliptical orbit, the apogee of which is beyond the orbit of the Moon, at an altitude of about 400 thousand km), he went out for four consecutive maneuvers. With each maneuver, the lunar engine turned on near perigee, making maximum use of the Earth's gravitational field and saving fuel. That is why more than a month has passed from the start of the lunar to its capture by the moon.
    3. The English expression lunar capture is translated as "capture by the gravitational field of the moon", not "capture of the moon".
    4. One million dollars is paid not by Google, but by the Lunar XPrise fund itself. Google canceled its contest without awarding a victory to any of the participants.

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