US massively upgrade Abrams to M1A2 SEPv3

The United States launched a massive modernization of the main combat tank Abrams until its latest version is M1A2 SEPv3. The cycle was launched at the plant in Lima, preliminary the company will produce 34 cars per month.

The United Center for the Production of Tank Systems in Lima is the only company that produces the M1 Abrams MBT family. The new version of the American tank eliminated many shortcomings, including problems with the working space, weight and power, identified during the operation in Iraq. At least, so say the manufacturers. This version will be the basis for all future upgrades.

In addition to improving survivability, Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 received enhanced protection, a self-diagnostic system, built-in protection against improvised explosive devices, a new auxiliary power unit, built-in training equipment, an ammunition data channel.

The project also includes the modernization of the digital architecture of the MBT for the installation of a gigabit Ethernet bus. In addition, the kit includes a new fuel supply system.

According to the forecasts of the US military, the use of 70-tonne Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 will reduce the logistic burden and allow the army to connect to the maintenance and supply systems at the enterprise level.

The M1A2 SEPv3 will be equipped with the Israeli Active Trophy APS (also known as the Windbreaker), designed to neutralize missiles and ATGM.

MBT has a length of 9,7 m, a width of 3,7 m and a height of 2,4 m, its work is provided by a crew of four people, including the driver, the commander, the loader and the shooter.

According to several media reports, US ground forces have signed a contract in the amount of 714 million US dollars to upgrade the Abrams M174A1 main battle tanks to the M1A1 version of the 2 version (SEPv3).

935 people will take part in the work on the order at the plant in Lima, the total number of upgraded equipment should be 34 machines per month. In total, the army ordered 274 vehicles - these are three tank brigades. The total number of upgraded tanks can grow to 435 - such an option is in the contract.

US President Donald Trump called the Abrams a tank "superior to any foreign counterparts." Trump was immediately reminded that these "excellent" tanks (Saudi Arabian Armed Forces) burn easily in Yemen from the blows of the Hussites from far from the most modern grenade launchers. Apparently, Trump believes that the modernization of the tank solves this problem.

Comments

[svp67]

The new version of the American tank eliminated many shortcomings

And the main thing is aggravated - huge weight. All the same, 70-t tons is too much

[Grandfather]

most importantly, the negro-loader was left ...

[Hole puncher]

Quote: Dead Day

most importantly, the negro-loader was left ...

Why "nigger"? Maybe there are Koreans or Jews? The latter also have tanks without AZ.
PS: The Germans and the British, by the way, too.

[MCMLX]

Jewish loader? It's impossible. This is not Jewish.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: MCMLX

Jewish loader? It's impossible. This is not Jewish.

Like Jewish tanks do not shoot?

[just exp]

Goys in loaders are gaining.

[svp67]

Quote: MCMLX

Jewish loader? It's impossible. This is not Jewish.

And he is not charging, but a CONCESSOR

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Koreans just have a gun, at least on their black panther.

[figwam]

It was the tanks of this model that were immediately transferred to Poland.

On our serial tanks there is no KAZ yet.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

The absence of KAZ on our Russian tanks is, at the present time, almost a crime. "Object 184-5" with KAZ T09-A6 has not yet gone into production.
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[Vadim237]

And they won’t put it - it’s too expensive, especially since it cannot intercept missiles attacking from above, it’s cheaper to use dynamic defense.

[NEXUS]

Quote: figvam

It was the tanks of this model that were immediately transferred to Poland.

I came across a video of exercises in Poland with the participation of the Abrams. They were stuck in the mud during the spring thaw. This tank is not adapted for 65 tons to such war conditions.
By the way, the concept of super heavy tanks is in itself a failure, and this was proved back in WWII.

USA, 1945, 11 meters, weight 95 tons, crew 8 people

Great Britain, 1940, 10 meters, weight 80 tons, crew 8 people

FCM F1. France, 1940, 11 meters, weight 139 tons, crew 9 people

Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte.Germanyz, 1942 g., 35 meters, weight 1000 tons, crew 20 people

[KrokodilGena]

Have you ever heard of ground pressure? Normally, they have everything with patency, and where they do not pass, there the T-72 will not pass.

[Maz]

Well, everything, Khan, Abrams became light and fluffy. Togo and look to fly underground will start!

[Sanichsan]

I liked this:
"According to forecasts by the US military, the use of 70-ton Abrams M1A2 SEPv3 will reduce the logistics load"
apparently when the mouse catches up then the logistic load will generally become minimal

[Zaurbek]

We are waiting for the use of tanks with KAZ ..... and it’s bad that we don’t see the T-90m and T-72B3 with KAZ systems .... but for the Russian Federation this is an urgent issue. Nearby troubled Ukraine, the same Syria .... and our opponents have a lot of ATGMs of the 2nd and 3rd generation.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

At this time, the Kantemirov division completed the maintenance of the Soviet Orthodox T-34, the tank battalion of which was transferred to Laos. The competition among the military personnel for the right to join the crews of the legendary T-34 tanks exceeded 13 people in place. Applications were filed by soldiers, sergeants and officers serving in Moscow, Moscow and Nizhny Novgorod regions. After lighting, the armor of these tanks is not taken by modern and promising tank ammunition of NATO countries

[Professor]

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Meanwhile, in the Kantemirovsky division, they completed the technical maintenance of the Soviet Orthodox T-34, whose tank battalion was handed over to Laos.

It's really strange how the Czechoslovak T-34s turned into "Soviet Orthodox".

[figwam]

Quote: professor

It's really strange how the Czechoslovak T-34s turned into "Soviet Orthodox"

The year of production of these tanks 1944, at this time Czechoslovakia was under occupation and built tanks for the Wehrmacht)))

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

Quote: professor

It's really strange how the Czechoslovak T-34s turned into "Soviet Orthodox"

The year of production of these tanks 1944, at this time Czechoslovakia was under occupation and built tanks for the Wehrmacht)))

Yes Yes. Now they will tell you in general that these are the tanks that first entered Berlin.
Many media outlets titled the news as “the return of tanks to Russia,” the same words are also contained in the original text of the Ministry of Defense. In fact, no one has returned. Now, if the Laos had sent these "thirty-four" to the Czech Republic or, for example, to Slovakia - then yes. The fact is that these are not Soviet-made cars. A number of characteristic features makes it possible to say with confidence that these are Czechoslovak T-34-85. They were produced at the factory ČKD (the current Czech Republic) and at the plant in Martin (now it is Slovakia). Smooth casting of towers, twin headlights with fencing, a characteristic sharp joint of frontal armor plates without a beam, located between them in the Soviet original. On the frames showing the cars in the back, you can see the shape of exhaust pipe shells, which is also different from the source.

https://fishki.net/2845063-t-34-iz-laosa-kto-zhe-k-nam-priehal.html

[figwam]

Quote: professor

Smooth casting of towers, twin headlights with a fence, a characteristic sharp joint of frontal armored plates without a beam located between them at the Soviet original. In the frames showing the cars at the back, you can see the shape of the exhaust pipe covers, which also differs from the source.

And a sharp junction of armor without a beam and curly exhaust pipe covers were released in the USSR, and even after the war the headlights could change several times, because T-34 went through modernization.

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

And the sharp joint of armor without a beam and exhaust pipe shells were produced in the USSR, and the headlights after the war could have been changed several times, because T-34 underwent upgrades.

Let's wait another year and we'll see how the Lao tanks will become "Berlin" ones.
What would seem easier? Show people signs manufacturer with tanks. But MO is silent ...

[figwam]

Quote: professor

But MO is silent ...

Do you think MO is obliged to report to the fleas?

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

Do you think MO is obliged to report to the fleas?

Your MO does not report to anyone except one person. Do stupid burzhuinov differently.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

Your MO does not report to anyone

So they have no such duty, their task is to strengthen the defense of the country.

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

Quote: professor

Your MO does not report to anyone

So they have no such duty, their task is to strengthen the defense of the country.

We are moving away from the topic of the article, but unaccountable MO strengthens not the defense of the country, but the welfare of the generals and their confidants. This is an axiom.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

The Defense Ministry does not strengthen the defense of the country, but the welfare of the generals and their close associates. This is an axiom.

These tanks somehow affect the welfare of Shoigu? It seems to me that this develops patriotism and, accordingly, defense.

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

These tanks somehow affect the welfare of Shoigu? It seems to me that this develops patriotism and, accordingly, defense.

Shoigu is already a very, very well-to-do person (why would?), And IMHO's patriotism is developed not by parades or "holy" tanks, but by his family. Everything comes from mom and dad, not from MO. Americans are more patriotic than Russians despite the lack of parades and trophy trains. Consider why. What and who makes Americans raise the national flag over their homes?

Here is an example closer to me:

An Arab terrorist tried to take her life, but nothing happened. He moved her, but she got up. She graduated from the officer course. With a white-toothed smile. On a wheelchair. Behind the proud parents.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

Shoigu is already a very, very wealthy person

Oh, and you like to count other people's money ...

Quote: professor

Americans are more patriotic than Russians despite the absence of parades and trophy trains.

All patriotism in the United States ends with the hanging of the flag, just as deceitful as their smile, and how the money will not be all these immigrants will scatter around the world in search of a new homeland and there will solemnly hang out another flag.

Quote: professor

What and who is forcing Americans to raise a national flag over their home?

Because the neighbors nastuchat where necessary ...

Quote: professor

He moved her, but she got up. She graduated from the officer course.

You are at war, that’s the answer. When our country is at war, there are a huge number of such examples.

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

Oh, and you like to count other people's money ...

Only suckers do not consider public money.

Quote: figvam

All patriotism in the United States ends with the hanging of the flag, just as deceitful as their smile, and how the money will not be all these immigrants will scatter around the world in search of a new homeland and there will solemnly hang out another flag.

History shows that it is not. The Americans went to the front and volunteers and a squad of detachments they had. Do not run?

Quote: figvam

Because the neighbors nastuchat where necessary ...

Where? to whom? What will not raise the flag?

Quote: figvam

You are at war, that’s the answer. When our country is at war, there are a huge number of such examples.

How did we raise patriotism without parades? By the way, terror and you have. What is your competition for one place in combat units in the infantry?

How many people with disabilities did you voluntarily join the army for military service?



Maybe you do not properly educate patriotism?

"My name is Ben Levy, in a month I will be 20 years old and I have cerebral palsy. I always wanted to become a soldier. My father is a policeman, and my brother is a paratrooper. My parents instilled in me the idea that everyone should do the best they can. more for their country - both an absolutely healthy person and a disabled person.

Two years ago, I was exempted from the army. But I called myself as a volunteer for two years, and from last week I became a soldier. I am the same as everyone, and I defend my country.

Don't give up and remember that the army needs volunteers as much as conscripts. "

Army, frankly speaking, there is no need for soldiers with disabilities, but disabled people need the army and the army is going to meet.

It is very important for people to serve their homeland.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

Only suckers do not consider public money.

So count the money of your treasury, especially when billions come from overseas.

Quote: professor

Americans went to the front and volunteers and a detachment of detachments they had

For money, they went to war, as now.

Quote: professor

by the way terror and you have it.

Do not be silly. Terror suits only the United States and its allies to those who can’t fight back.

Quote: professor

How many people with disabilities did you voluntarily join the army for military service?

I repeat once again, you have been at war for many decades, we are at peace, so we don’t need to hire people with disabilities.

[Professor]

Quote: figvam

So count the money of your treasury, especially when billions come from overseas.

I will begin immediately as the Russian Federation begins to pay a pension to my father who has served more than 20 calendar in the SA.

Quote: figvam

For money, they went to war, as now.

Teach materiel.

Quote: figvam

Do not talk nonsense. Terror suits only the United States and its allies.

Terror on the territory of the Russian Federation is an indisputable fact. What is only worth Nord Ost. Nonsense write here you are.

Quote: figvam

I repeat once again, you have been at war for many decades, we are at peace, so we don’t need to hire people with disabilities.

"In a state of peace" you have lost more people than we "in a state of war".

You are not interesting for me. You can no longer write to me. I will not read your comments here.

[figwam]

Quote: professor

more than 20 calendar in CA.

The military pension in the USSR was assigned from the age of 25.

Quote: professor

Teach materiel.

Similarly ...

Quote: professor

What does the Nord Ost.

Have you been looking at the calendar for a long time? this is 2002, when the west could still feed the militants.

Quote: professor

"In a state of peace" you have lost more people than we are "in a state of war"

Yes, just at that time we were friends from the USA and did as we were told.

Quote: professor

You are not interesting for me. You can no longer write to me. I will not read your comments here.

Well, I will decide whether to write or not. All the same, it’s not me who is writing from Russia on the Israeli site, but you are writing from Israel on the Russian site.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: professor

the characteristic sharp joint of the frontal armor plates without a beam located between them in the Soviet original.

Professor, what do you think who is stupid, who said stupidity, or whoever behind him repeats this stupidity?

[Professor]

Quote: SanichSan

Quote: professor

the characteristic sharp joint of the frontal armor plates without a beam located between them in the Soviet original.

Professor, what do you think who is stupid, who said stupidity, or whoever behind him repeats this stupidity?

Quote: professor

What would seem easier? Show people signs manufacturer with tanks. But MO is silent ...

[Sanichsan]

Quote: professor

What would seem easier? Show people signs manufacturer with tanks. But MO is silent ...

Well? Professor, where is the sign? you here undertook to prove that the tanks are Czech ... on the basis of the absence of the beam in front
Professor, a sign in the studio! or you have only nonsense about the beam?

[Professor]

Quote: SanichSan

Quote: professor

What would seem easier? Show people signs manufacturer with tanks. But MO is silent ...

Well? Professor, where is the sign? you here undertook to prove that the tanks are Czech ... on the basis of the absence of the beam in front
Professor, a sign in the studio! or you have only nonsense about the beam?

That's it. We are waiting for the plates that the tanks are Soviet. It is desirable that the plates were original.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: professor

That's it. We are waiting for signs that the tanks are Soviet.

stop
is this your nonsense?

Quote: professor

Yes Yes. Now they will tell you in general that these are the tanks that first entered Berlin.
Many media outlets titled the news as “the return of tanks to Russia,” the same words are also contained in the original text of the Ministry of Defense. In fact, no one has returned. Now, if the Laos had sent these "thirty-four" to the Czech Republic or, for example, to Slovakia - then yes. The fact is that these are not Soviet-made cars. A number of characteristic features makes it possible to say with confidence that these are Czechoslovak T-34-85. They were produced at the factory ČKD (the current Czech Republic) and at the plant in Martin (now it is Slovakia). Smooth casting of towers, twin headlights with fencing, a characteristic sharp joint of frontal armor plates without a beam, located between them in the Soviet original. On the frames showing the cars in the back, you can see the shape of exhaust pipe shells, which is also different from the source.

yours
Well, where are the plates that they are Czech? or you, except for someone's stupidity quoted by you, have nothing to say?
Professor, do not disappoint us! since blurted out then bring to the end. prove it! is all that the professor can give is to repeat someone’s very stupid nonsense

[Professor]

Quote: SanichSan

Well, where are the plates that they are Czech? or you, except for someone's stupidity quoted by you, have nothing to say?

Do not distort. Your MoD is publicly accused of dragging Czech tanks and the Mo Do not refute these allegations. Tables in fact in the hands. MO Is it difficult to produce them or are they being interrupted?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: professor

Do not distort. Your MoD is publicly accused of dragging Czech tanks and the Mo Do not refute these allegations.

Professor, I actually do not even deny that these tanks were released in Czechoslovakia. think for it, this is part of the USSR. you are uneducated and did not know? also as the author of a very stupid opus to which you refer?
So, I have several questions for you at once!
1) you are not so educated that you do not see what fierce nonsense you quote?
2) where does the story of Israeli ideological fighters for shekali with disabilities? the fact that employment in Israel is directly related to where he served is not a secret. what you have with demography is sadness and everyone serves in a row (with the exception of artodoxes. ) is not a secret either.
so what did you want to say?

PS

Quote: professor

After all, the plates are in the hands. MO. Is it difficult to present them or are they interrupted yet? wink

you yourself still do not understand what ran here ??? do you think that the MO will respond to the stuffing of every uneducated fool in tyrnet? Seriously?
Professor, what you brought is kaka and you are smeared in her ears

[Professor]

Quote: SanichSan

Professor, I actually do not even deny that these tanks were released in Czechoslovakia.

Then the question is closed and there is nothing to discuss.

Quote: SanichSan

think for it, this is part of the USSR. you are uneducated and did not know? also as the author of a very stupid opus to which you refer?

My education suggests that Czechoslovakia is not part of the USSR. Also my education allows me to begin sentences with a capital letter.

Quote: SanichSan

So, I have several questions for you at once!
1) you are so not educated that you do not see what kind of evil nonsense you quote?

My education is not a topic of discussion.

Quote: SanichSan

2) where does the story about Israeli ideological fighters for shekili with disabilities?

You have nothing to do with it. I did not discuss this topic with you.

Quote: SanichSan

the fact that employment in Israel is directly related to where you served is not a secret.

City legend.

Quote: SanichSan

that you have sadness with demographics and serve everything (except perhaps for artodoksov.) is also not a secret.

You shine with your "education". Our fertility rate is more than 3 children per woman, yours does not reach the level of reproduction. "Sadness" is not with us.

Quote: SanichSan

you yourself still do not understand what came running here ??? Do you think that MO will respond to stuffing every uneducated little fool in tyrnet? Seriously?
Professor, what you brought is Kaka and you are covered with it

Your MO was repeatedly caught in a lie, and I have no doubt that no one will show any signs to anyone. This is a military secret. Didn’t your Defense Ministry bring state-of-the-art Czechoslovak tanks from Laos to private films for state films?

[Sanichsan]

Quote: professor

My education is not a topic of discussion.

opposite! it was from this that my discussion with you began. or have you already forgotten?

Quote: professor

My education suggests that Czechoslovakia is not part of the USSR. Also my education allows me to begin sentences with a capital letter.

she is like! Well, what was I interested in ... really, everything is very neglected ... do you represent the wing of fans of alternative history? no?
"the official name of Czechoslovakia, adopted upon amendment of the Constitution of the country on July 11, 1960"
not? did not know? in the torus is not written about it?

Quote: professor

Your MO was repeatedly caught in a lie, and I have no doubt that no one will show any signs to anyone.

Oh oh oh that's right often! and this is broadcast by a native of Izranil in which the MoD does not publish anything except lies?
Of course, no one will present any tablets.

Quote: professor

This is a military secret.

just not for that. no one will bother because the fact that you are forcing here is so stupid that in itself does not deserve MO comments. Well, this is rare and stupid stuff. Does your MoD comment on ravings from the Internet? it seems not. or already commenting?

Quote: professor

Didn’t your Defense Ministry bring state-of-the-art Czechoslovak tanks from Laos to private films for state films?

Professor, didn’t the Ukrainians bite you for an hour? you break one bottom after another at the last comment, I thought that you couldn’t get stronger anymore, but no! Are you from Israel? not from the outskirts?

Quote: professor

You shine with your "education". Our fertility rate is more than 3 children per woman, yours does not reach the level of reproduction. "Sadness" is not with us.

Oh yeah. you certainly are not sad. you have lots of fun! the whole country is liable for military service and is constantly waiting for mobilization. what a sadness there is. have fun!
about "3 children" definitely not screwed up? and if it turns out that these are three visitors and those from the outskirts?

[210ox]

In fairness, I’ll tell you. Husids have previous versions on fire, and the crews seem to be nonsense there. But the use of the Israeli KAZ will seriously strengthen the defense. By the way, why didn’t they put their own?

[Wedmak]

But is it your own? Yes, and the Jewish creation has already been verified in practice, it’s a sin not to use it.

[Hole puncher]

Quote: 210ox

In fairness, I’ll tell you. The Husids have previous versions on fire, and the crews seem to be nonsense.

In fairness, there is no technique that does not burn.

[210ox]

Of course, there is no "exceptional" technique.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Puncher

Quote: 210ox

In fairness, I’ll tell you. The Husids have previous versions on fire, and the crews seem to be nonsense.

In fairness, there is no technique that does not burn.

That's right. And by the way, KAZ is not a panacea, but only an increase in the machine’s chance to survive in battle.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

increase the chance of the machine to survive in battle.

and therefore the crew will psychologically feel more confident on the battlefield. The Syrian experience introduced a new word --- fear of fear.

[Zaurbek]

When using anti-tank systems of the 2nd generation of extreme versions, all known tanks will burn ... only% of the dead tankers can be compared here. Even the resistance of the frontal armor is already in question, and it is no longer possible to hang on the armor.

[Vadim237]

You can use mounted armor made of titanium-based metal foam, such a material is not inferior to the most durable tank armor, but it is several times lighter.

[Thrifty]

Gigabyte Internet bus for hackers to tidy up a piece of trojans to push the tank in the field tightly, or completely out of control in battle!

[Wedmak]

Ethernet is the usual gigabit LAN on wires. Not connected to the Internet in any way. So you have to look for the connector on the tank, and spat, when you do not find it, just burn it whole.

[just exp]

Abrams in the sep version become network-centric, that is, they are exchanging data with ACS, which means that there is something to crack.
the truth is nothing to do with it. everything is wireless.

[Wedmak]

everything is wireless

An encrypted radio channel with goodies like a jumping frequency and more. Not so easy to hack. It’s easier to slip transmitters.

[210ox]

Something at work in profibas did not stuff any crap. Probably because nothing goes further than the equipment itself.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: Dead Day

most importantly, the negro-loader was left ...

And how not to leave him, because he is an uplifter. (in the text of the article)

[Uncle lee]

Quote: AlexVas44

contagious

And that’s .... Khan to the crew!

[boathouse]

And how many tanks are produced per month?

[YOUR]

Well, you ask questions. Per month. Do you want a year? In 2019, it is planned to modernize 31 tanks to the T-72B3 level and produce 10 T-90M tanks, as well as 12 BMPTs. That's all.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: YOUR

Well, you ask questions. Per month. Do you want a year? In 2019, it is planned to modernize 31 tanks to the T-72B3 level and produce 10 T-90M tanks, as well as 12 BMPTs. That's all.

That is why the number of modernized "Abrams" per month is surprising and unpleasantly striking - bam, and the battalion goes ahead. I would like to believe that ours also have such capabilities and the whole issue in the financial component.

[Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich]

The point here is more in the need and in finance. T-72b3 over 1000 have been modernized for a long time. BMPT and t-90m in general are still undergoing experimental operation.

[Konatantin 1992]

Laugh laugh ... But KAZ they first began to install massively. And you continue to look at the Arena, which is not regularly present on the T-90M, not to mention the T-72 B3 and T-80BVM ...

[501 Legion]

started to install ?? this is where they started to install massively interesting. not a single tank has left their assembly line except for prototypes.

[Konatantin 1992]

Well, you know, how can I put it this way, about prototypes .. they passed 2 stages of testing, and I think, for quite obvious reasons, based on a not very "good" tendency on our part, they will just install the KAZ, and not they will say that there is no KAZ, but there is a possibility of installation ... Just not evaluating the enemy is fraught with consequences, that's all.

[spirit]

Cool of course !, since Abrams was created exclusively for tank battles, KAZ will significantly increase its survivability from infantry with anti-tank missile launchers hollowing on the sides and stern.

[Pavlov Sergey Alexandrovich]

Very nice thing in town especially. Saves from an evil Arab with RPG-7, however, only from one or two maximum)

[KrokodilGena]

Abrams RPG7 is not feeling, nowhere, there is no place for an equivalent below 300mm +. There is not a single fact that Abrams was able to burn using RPG7, but there is a mass of video where Abrams reflects the massive shelling of RPGs and ATGMs, or a Vampire, of course, anything that is more powerful than RPG7 can hit an ammunition, or the aircraft in certain places.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

The hull side in the 30mm MTO area (there were cases of penetration and subsequent arson by a 30mm BMP-2 cannon in Iraq) the hull side itself is 112mm and there is no DZ, that is, ANY shot from an RPG pierces, then there is an additional power system on the back (so as not to including the main engine to maintain the power supply of all systems, it is easier if the dviglo is knocked out so that the standing tank doesn’t lower the cannon with the monitors turned off and the gyro turned off, but continues to shoot) so in Iraq they got into it from the DShK, which caused a fire that destroyed it nk. In general, Abrams is a kind of heavily armored PT-sau in the forehead, and the sides and stern are almost defenseless against any means of destruction, by the way, the Iraqi military bought our T-90 with Shtora and DZ, since the Ishilians who defended Mosul burned Abrams with old ATGMs easily (and T-90 Shtora knocks down the guidance of Tou, even if she hits, DZ copes)

[KrokodilGena]

These are all your theories and fantasies, you bring me the facts. There is nowhere 40mm. The sides, bottom, and stern, like the tower, keep RPG7 from all sides, unlike the T-90/72/80, whose sides, lower VLD, and feed penetrate not only the RPG, but also the weaker. DZ TOU holds)) T-90 was bought not because the Ishilovites, etc. .., do not compose on the go.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

The Germans tried to make an "indestructible" tank - the Mauss came out with side armor of 250 mm, so the whole machine weighed 188 tons, so the Abrams has only a heavily armored forehead - more than 800 mm are shown in the forehead of the tower, and the sides, like all other tanks, are quite vulnerable. otherwise it would have weighed like the same Mauss (for the RPG-7 there is a shot with 600mm armor penetration behind the mounted DZ, which is quite enough to burn Abrasha, which was demonstrated in Iraq)

[Cowbra]

I will borrow a manual from our liberals ... "Where is Armatimlya? !!!" Trump leaked it all! Upgrading ancient junk !!!
But in general, given that the modernization of the tank is approximately equal to the cost of construction of the new Almaty, ie tank = cost of the previous version PLUS Armata.
Well, as they said, the US defense industry is a solid cut multiplied by the lobby. It saves only that money is still dead, you can buy what others have done - they don’t know how to do anything themselves

[SHOPPING MALL]

Quote: Cowbra

I will borrow a manual from our liberals ... "Where is Armatimlya? !!!" Trump leaked it all! Upgrading ancient junk !!!
But in general, given that the modernization of the tank is approximately equal to the cost of construction of the new Almaty, ie tank = cost of the previous version PLUS Armata.
Well, as they said, the US defense industry is a solid cut multiplied by the lobby. It saves only that money is still dead, you can buy what others have done - they don’t know how to do anything themselves

Almaty is not Almaty, and installing a normal KAZ on our tanks would not hurt.

[Cowbra]

Yes, the joke is that the task once is the modernization of the T-72 / T-80 plus some number of T-90. Armats - a separate song, and raw, it seems, for now. I’m just mocking the fact that the local balalaika, who HERE in every topic about modernization in the Russian Federation howled at all voices - sharply fell silent

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

T-14 goes into production with Afghanite immediately, T-80u will be modernized and will put the modernized Arena (reduced danger for infantry around the tank) Moscow did not immediately build - it’s impossible to do everything with a wave of your hand, in 4 years they will install a couple of thousand modernized T -80U, which is quite enough (there is no more sense - if a nuclear war, tanks will be destroyed by tactical nuclear weapons, no KAZ will help there, and 2000 is enough for them)

[KrokodilGena]

Quote: Cowbra

Well, as they said, the US defense is a solid cut, multiplied by the lobby.

Yes, some say a lot, but they don’t give any facts. Yes, and the exhaust is visible and mattresses, unlike some.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

Fact please, billions of dollars were spent on the development (just on the drawings, in fact) "promising ACS" after which the project was recognized as "unpromising" and closed, this is not a cut, when such bucks went nowhere? there is no need to deify the Americans, there, just like everywhere else, private firms "want to eat", and they are lobbied by senators (people all over the world are the same - it's sad that you still haven't understood this simple thing)

[KrokodilGena]

These are your fantasies, you tell me the facts, as is the case with the domestic defense industry, which in terms of GDP or budget consumes 2,5 times the dough, and exhaust only in declarations of intent.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

We have a military budget 10 times smaller than the US, while we retain the ability to withstand the United States, so where is the cut and exhaust?

[KrokodilGena]

This total amount is 10 times lower, but it should be looked at as a percentage of GDP or budget, and in this case, 2,5 times more is spent on defense than the Americans have. Where and how does the Russian Federation "oppose" the Americans militarily? What is this “confrontation”? ”The armament, as it was in the Soviet army, remained, and the masses of the necessary modern systems, weapons, etc., were not, and are not visible.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

Well, look, we have supersonic anti-ship missiles (Mosquito, Uranus, hypersonic Zircon is on the way), the Americans are still sitting on the subsonic Harpoon, we have the air defense shell, the Americans from the melee air defense systems only have Hammer with a stinger, the S-400 has an order of magnitude better TTX than Patriot (minimum- maximum intercept height and range + target speed) Cornet B ATGM with a range of 10 km and armor penetration of 1200 mm per DZ, against Tou having a range of 3750 meters and armor penetration of 900 mm per DZ, I will not list hypersonic dagger (Americans still on ozvukovom Tomahawk), and their loot where flows - for example bought mugs for coffee avtopodogrevom for $ 1300 apiece

[Maz]

Quote: 210ox

In fairness, I’ll tell you. Husids have previous versions on fire, and the crews seem to be nonsense there. But the use of the Israeli KAZ will seriously strengthen the defense. By the way, why didn’t they put their own?

Integration is such integration, it was invented in the USSR ... And now capitalists use the patent for free. Solid imperialism.

[Alexey-74]

34 tanks a month, and unfortunately we are upgrading much slower, moreover, the hodgepodge of T-72, T-80, T-90. MBT - T-72 B3 is without KAZ, and when we wait for the T-90M and T-14 is generally not clear.

[Jurkovs]

The new version of the American tank eliminated many shortcomings

It would be more correct to say that
"Many shortcomings have been eliminated in the new version of the American" self-propelled gun "

[rotmistr60]

svp67
All the same, 70 tons is too much

Totally agree with you. They have now taken up the deployment of tank brigades near our borders, and have thought how they will attack with their "elephants" on our off-road and village bridges? And they burn just like everyone else, and it is American, and not export copies, as fans of American weapons like to present this fact.

[Zaurbek]

They make these machines to solve problems in local conflicts such as Syrian or Lebanon, and in Lebanon for the first time massively went to irregular formations Cornets and grenade launchers Vampire ..... and in Syria, extreme versions of TOU.

Without KAZ, the participation of tanks will be overshadowed by heavy losses ... which cannot be undone in the age of the Internet. For the Russian Federation, this will also be a big problem ... the Syrians fought in Syria and how many tanks were burned ?! Turks on Leo2A5 clicked.

[Vadim237]

Most of these cars that they burned did not even have anti-cumulative side screens - the equipment was naked, its shot from an RPG 2 would take.

[Zaurbek]

In extreme versions of TOU and Cornet penetration up to 1200mm per DZ.

[Nikolay Ivanov_4]

They will not attack, they believe that we want to attack Poland, here we are, like in "def" steel, they are not completely complete, they do not understand that any invasion of tanks into the Russian Federation will entail not a fight with ATGMs, but simply Iskander ( of which we already have 120PU) tactical nuclear ammunition (50 kilotons) will begin to work just in places where NATO columns will go (there is no KAZ and even five-meter armor will not save them - a 50 kiloton (3 Hiroshima) nuclear explosion over the column will destroy at least a hundred tanks at once , the rest (extended to the front) that will not be destroyed, will receive damage to sights, antennas, observation devices and radioactive contamination of the hull. So, rather, tick from the site of infection and send tanks to repair bases for deactivation and repair of external systems. offensive "(Americans have long been expressing" protest "due to the fact that Russia has the richest arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons in the world (thanks to our fathers, they tried to forge a sword, which is still we use) nuclear warheads for Point U (they are also installed on Iskander - they are the same in weight) nuclear warheads (so that the air regiment can "drop" at once) for the S-300 missiles (also installed on the S-400) 152mm tactical nuclear projectiles (equivalent to 300 tons of TNT) - Coalitions with a firing range of more than 50 km, will stand on the barrier of tank-hazardous areas, with them 203mm shells (equivalent to 2 kilotons) Malki will be with them, they will take aim at highways, fords and ferries in Belarus (NATO members will not travel especially there through forests and swamps) that I won't give a penny that Americans are so anxious about their citizens, decide on such an adventure as attacking the Russian Federation, it is much more dangerous for us China - those people do not particularly value (and given that there are more than 100 million men in their country than women, it costs think)

[_Ugene_]

And we have an unrivaled T-72B3, as they say, feel the difference

[Vadim237]

When meeting with new fifth-generation ATGMs and Kamikaze drones - with a combined control system, all Khan tanks.

[_Ugene_]

KAZ can well handle it - they have it, and we and KAZ have no fifth-generation ATGMs and kamikaze drones, while the gap is serious

[Lieutenant Senior]

In Lima, tanks are not manufactured, but only modified.
Produced in Detroit. factory destroyed.

And yes. in fact, this is not a tank, but a large anti-tank gun. OFS only recently came up.

[Vadim237]

In fact, it’s a very tank, with a powerful weapon, with KAZ, it won’t take anything into his forehead, and on board - closed by double dynamic protection, only air-based ATGMs remain: Storm Attack Whirlwind.

[Alexander Petrov1]

As the battles show, one shot at the auxiliary engine and this miracle of American thought for $ 8 million leaves the battle due to a power failure of all guidance electronics.