Sentry with anti-aircraft guns. Lightweight, compact and powerful BM-3

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Remember Robot-hour from the famous film by James Cameron "Aliens"? In one of the episodes of this very overpowering and sentimental science fiction action movie, two sentinel robots (they had the index UA 571-C) repelled the attack of aliens who tried to get through the tunnel to the defended residential module. An automatic, remotely controlled machine gun on a tripod in 1986 looked futuristic - it looked like an element of the distant future, in which they would fly to other planets and cut there with all sorts of alien monsters.


Shot from the movie "Aliens." Ahead are two watch-robots set to guard the tunnel.



So, we have it now. This is a combat module BM-3, which first appeared at the exhibition in 2016 year, and now adopted for use. Well, progress in armaments is faster. We already have a remotely controlled combat module, and we are still flying into space on the "kerosene" and so far we can not even reach the neighboring planets of our solar system, not to mention the planets of other stars.

Like the recently appeared robot "Marker", I liked the new combat module at a glance. Lightweight, compact, powerful. In published TTH more attention was paid to fire capabilities; I am also more interested in the weight of the product. Apparently, the mass of the entire module is small and in its curb form it is unlikely to exceed 60 kg. This opens up very wide possibilities for the use of such modules. The dimensions of the module also did not publish, but according to the photo its dimensions can be estimated at about 0,8 meters in length and height and 0,9 meters in width. Finally, the Kord 12,7-mm machine gun.

Sentry with anti-aircraft guns. Lightweight, compact and powerful BM-3

BM-3

In my opinion, the development is successful. To criticize it is nothing special. Small modifications that do not affect the design as a whole, it is possible to significantly expand the scope of application of such a remote-controlled large-caliber machine gun.

The developers of the Chelyabinsk NPO "Electromashina" paid the most attention to the placement of a new combat module on various equipment. The module was put into service in the composition of the armored car "Typhoon-U". However, for such a successful development, this is too narrowly specialized use, which can prevent widespread and widespread use. Why limit only to armored vehicles? Let's think more broadly.

Battle Robots Module

BM-3 can be installed on the already considered combat robot "Marker". Apparently, the BM-3 is lighter and more compact than an existing module. Less weight allows you to make the module rising to fire from shelters. The central location of the machine gun (in the original "Marker" module, the machine gun is placed on the right) in the BM-3 will give greater firing accuracy.

An interesting question: is it worth arming combat robots with grenade launchers? In many projects this has been implemented, and one can say that this is a kind of robot-building consensus. In principle, it has been experimentally proven that a grenade launcher or even an ATGM can be installed in the combat module of a robot and this will be a workable design. However, you can make and arguments "against." Their essence is that for a combat robot of the format "machine gun with a motor," that is, acting together with infantry and a motorized rifle company built into the structure, the grenade launchers in the combat module are, firstly, unnecessary, and, secondly, dangerous for their own infantry. They are superfluous because they are obviously not enough against heavy armored vehicles, and the robot will handle a lightly heavy machine gun with a lightly armored vehicle (a typical enemy is Humvee armored vehicles or its analogs). Grenade launcher - weapon melee combat, up to 300 meters, while Kord makes it possible to hit targets at a distance of 1000-1500 meters, if the visibility and capabilities of the combat module devices allow, which allows to hit from afar - this is more advantageous. Dangerous because the jet does not go anywhere. The accompanying infantry has no connection with the robot, the designers have not provided any warning signal, and this signal can simply be overlooked in battle. The shot from the grenade launcher for the infantry will be sudden and can hit someone with a jet stream. In the heat of battle, the robot operator can easily fire a grenade launcher without making sure that no one is behind them. What looks great in field conditions is not always suitable for battle.

Because I believe that the "Marker" you can install BM-3 with one machine gun, provided that the designers will finalize it in terms of increasing ammunition. 250 cartridges for the robot - it is not enough. Better 1000 or 2000 cartridges. Of the improvements for installation on the robot need more armored space.

Portable combat module

BM-3, in my opinion, it is quite possible to use as a portable large-caliber machine gun, if you add to it a wheeled machine, for example, a similar machine to the machine gun SG-43.

The main tactical advantage of the BM-3 delivered to the wheeled machine is that the calculation of the machine gun can fire completely hiding in the shelter. Having established a machine gun on a position, it is possible to manage it from a dugout or from a deep trench or a crack. This significantly reduces the likelihood of his defeat return fire of the enemy. In any case, the enemy machine gunners and snipers will not be able to get the sheltered calculation. They will need at least mortars. In addition, they still need to find out exactly where the calculation of the combat machine-gun module hid, and it will not be easy.

In general, BM-3 can be used to create a field defense, placing them in timber or reinforced concrete firing points. It does not have to be exactly the defense on the front. This may be a position at a commanding altitude, a firing position or a roadblock on a highway. In well-fortified positions, for example, in defended buildings or in roadblocks, the capabilities of a portable combat module further increase. In my opinion, it would be advisable to provide the ability to manage a group of modules from a single console. Then one operator controlling the 3-4 modules can monitor (let's not forget that the BM-3 devices can be used for this purpose) and fire in a fairly large defense sector.

This application will also require some refinement. First, the machine. Secondly, a battery must be installed on the machine to power the combat module systems. Thirdly, you will need a cable length of the order of 30-50 meters. Fourthly, the barrel temperature sensor is also needed so that the operator knows when the barrel has overheated, and can make a pause in the firing.

In general, I would suggest that designers do not dwell solely on a large-caliber machine gun. For a number of tasks, for example, for a watch-making robot, the 12-7-mm machine gun is clearly redundant, and you can get by with a smaller caliber. This may be an 7,62-mm PCT.

Anti-aircraft module

In my opinion, on the basis of the BM-3, it is quite possible to make an anti-aircraft modification capable of firing at both ground and air targets. The need for this is emphasized by the fact that in recent years many small, low-flying targets, such as reconnaissance and strike targets, have begun to appear on the battlefield. Drones. So far, there are no adequate anti-aircraft weapons to defeat them.

The modified module, in which the machine gun has a large angle of elevation (of the order of 80 degrees), has been added to the software, the functions of tracking the air target and calculating the lead time, as well as automatic firing at it, may well be a good response to drones.

If you make such a module that can confidently hit the queue at a low-flying air target, then it can be used to hit quite a few air targets. For example, you can shoot down a cruise missile going to a target at a low altitude. An anti-aircraft module with a large-caliber machine gun will be very dangerous for helicopters, including drums. With their help, you can deal with small-scale attack aircraft (such as EMB-314 Super Tucano).

In any case, any motorized rifle platoon, which will have BM-3 with anti-aircraft functions, will no longer be a target for helicopters and will be able to give them a rebuff. The Marker, equipped with such a combat module, turns into a very good mobile anti-aircraft gun to combat low-flying targets.

In general, the BM-3 is a very good design, with the potential for further improvements and modifications.
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  1. -1
    18 March 2019 06: 25
    To push this thing onto a quadrocopter ... I can imagine what opportunities will appear with such a flying machine gun ... Mom, do not worry.
    He spotted a group of Ishilovites in Syria, for example ... sent a group of drones with machine guns or grenade launchers and overlaid them from above ... especially at night by equipping the drones with thermal imaging cameras, you can keep all night bandits in fear ... what room for design thought.
    Fiction from films migrates to our reality ... horror.
    1. +4
      18 March 2019 07: 09
      Well, if you go from the opposite, imagine such a canoe with a conditional igil and the opening opportunities for ambush them. Do strike reconnaissance
      they already learned drones from spare parts bought from aliexpress.
      1. 0
        18 March 2019 07: 11
        I saw in their videos their opportunities ... kindergarten ... bye.
        The state has a different scope and ability to create effective weapons.
  2. +8
    18 March 2019 06: 57
    It is amazing how the author did not offer to equip a satellite constellation with this combat module. Well, what? That would be a real star army!
    Why is it possible to report violation of comments and can not do the same regarding the article?
    I hope the site administration adds this feature.
    1. +4
      18 March 2019 07: 04
      Why is it possible to report violation of comments and can not do the same regarding the article?
      I hope the site administration adds this feature.

      I am against ... to prohibit the freedom of thought a lot of mind is not necessary ... so we will get to the Inquisition before ...
      The State Duma is already on this path.
      1. +5
        18 March 2019 07: 14
        No one talks about the ban, but it is possible and necessary to limit and filter information. The benefits of this will be for everyone.
        On this site there are as many as 2 categories for such grief "opinion-analysts", but for some reason they still stick to "weapons".
        1. +1
          18 March 2019 07: 19
          but to limit and filter information is possible and necessary. The benefits of this will be for everyone.

          It is necessary to filter and limit illegal information and not the one you want.
          Each person has his own opinion about the benefits of this or that act ...
          for me it is better to have not 2 but 22 categories of grief analysts, or you want to leave one analyst in your own right in everything.
          1. +7
            18 March 2019 07: 35
            Illegal information (the philosophical question of the legality of the laws themselves will be left for later) it is necessary just to prohibit it all the same, and put everything else in its place.
            There are quite understandable limits of reason. A person who proposes to use the simplest remote-controlled module with a "Cordoba" barrel as an anti-aircraft gun simply has no moral right to write for such a huge audience of a specialized site, this is a banal disrespect for readers on the part of the administration.
            1. -1
              18 March 2019 07: 40
              A person who proposes to use the simplest remote-controlled module with a "Cordoba" barrel as an antiaircraft gun simply has no moral right to write for such a huge audience of a specialized site

              Well, create your own website and set your own rules in which there will be no place for heretics and rebels or people who do not fit into your average settings.
              I prefer to listen to the ideas and thoughts of all layers of our people from the homeless and the bandit to the oligarch and the president.
              As Giordano Bruno said, the Earth is still round and it revolves around which the Inquisitors disagreed with the rapture of sending him to the bonfire for it.
              1. +2
                18 March 2019 07: 57
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Well, create your site and set your rules

                Hmm ... and right there you are talking about the importance of any opinion, how is this possible?
                “I don’t like it - don’t read it, don’t look, and you don’t need constructive criticism” - this is not difficult for me, but this is hardly the path to success.
                Why continue to bend the ridiculous line with this inquisition? I seem to have explained how the prohibition differs from the restriction.
                .....
                Let me draw an analogy, if in the Hermitage, in the gallery of world classics, they begin to exhibit children's music arguing that “children are people too,” will you support this initiative as well?
                Well, cho, museum workers also have every right to display whatever they want, regardless of the drop in the flow of visitors, and the "artistic value" ... she is like Giordano Bruno, let it burn at the stake. Yes?
                1. 0
                  18 March 2019 08: 01
                  Let me draw an analogy, if in the Hermitage, in the gallery of world classics, they begin to exhibit children's music arguing that “children are people too,” will you support this initiative as well?

                  I will not support but I will not mind ... everything is within the framework of the law and this is their freedom of choice ... you drive people into the framework of their opinion which cannot be ... categorically cannot be done.
                  I also disagree with many things, but still the nature of things is arranged so that there can be no light without shadows.
                  Let's leave the naked light in the area and enjoy only it ... it's a nightmare and sadomasochism.
                  Therefore, it is always necessary to leave a window for the release of steam in people in any form and within the law.
        2. 0
          20 March 2019 17: 23
          At one time, both "limited and filtered", what led to, remember? Or are you one of those "pale-faced" people who step on the same rake a hundred times? bully
          1. -1
            20 March 2019 18: 23
            I recommend that you re-read the rest of the comments in the thread, especially where I wrote about the fundamental difference between the ban and the restriction.
            "At one time" it was forbidden
            1. 0
              20 March 2019 19: 14
              Charles hi , I read everything, but the opinion for some reason does not change.
              Sincerely, M.Kot. hi
  3. +4
    18 March 2019 07: 03
    On the exoskeleton of the gallant colonel from the "Avatar" of the same Cameron, there was a large man, striking a black panther. For some reason, there are no modules with CPV, although it has more recoil, but the caliber and the damaging factor are greater.
  4. -1
    18 March 2019 07: 03
    Quote: The same Lech
    To push this thing onto a quadrocopter ... I can imagine what opportunities will appear with such a flying machine gun ... Mom, do not worry.
    He spotted a group of Ishilovites in Syria, for example ... sent a group of drones with machine guns or grenade launchers and overlaid them from above ... especially at night by equipping the drones with thermal imaging cameras, you can keep all night bandits in fear ... what room for design thought.
    Fiction from films migrates to our reality ... horror.

    Expensive!
    1. 0
      18 March 2019 07: 12
      Expensive!

      But there’s no need to risk people ... flying robots will do everything for them.
  5. -2
    18 March 2019 07: 29
    But on a wheeled machine, such a module is really a drop dead topic ... Not only will you get the hell out, but you’d also need to change your position - like two fingers, imagine such a shit in urban battles, especially in defense ... It’s a wunderwaffle.
    1. 0
      18 March 2019 07: 44
      There is Terminator 3 for this ... but the military is not very keen on having it.
      1. 0
        18 March 2019 07: 52
        No, Terminator, if you are talking about this, tank support is another balalaika. Have you introduced such a module in DAP? In. And the Terminator is there - consider nedotank, with the same pros and cons. On a wheeled machine, such a module can even be rolled around the building, moreover, very stealthily, and you can hide yourself by opening fire. There, the applications to him are just the sea ...
        Yes, damn it, 60 kilos is not straining to pull hands, it’s not a problem at all. And who the fuck will get me, moreover, who will stick out on the fire of this module - the calculation itself can take a sip, and from another point
  6. -4
    18 March 2019 09: 19
    BM-3 will be an indispensable thing in our Army.
  7. +2
    18 March 2019 09: 50
    Grenade launcher - melee weapons, up to 300 meters,
    With all due respect, but the author probably should study the performance characteristics of our AGS (automatic grenade launchers)


    And of course AGS-40

    After all, the main difference between a grenade launcher and its main advantage is the ability to conduct mounted fire
    1. -1
      18 March 2019 10: 35
      It was about a product with the name "Marker", which was written about recently in the same section of this site and about the fact that it has mounts for 2 RPGs. The article talks about the jet stream as a danger to drugs, how do you read?
      1. +3
        18 March 2019 10: 54
        Quote: English tarantass
        The article also talks about a jet stream, as a danger to drugs, how do you read?

        And you can ask a question. Tell us, what kind of "jet stream dangerous for l / s" comes from the AGS?
        1. 0
          18 March 2019 11: 08
          The author talked about RPGs, which AGS? REACTIVE, JET, RPG. We are talking about the need for an anti-tank grenade launcher, not an automatic one.
          1. +1
            18 March 2019 11: 17
            Quote: English tarantass
            We are talking about the need for an anti-tank grenade launcher, not an automatic one.

            U ... then the author does not understand our weapons at all, or rather, in his classification ...
            At a range of 300 meter we use Anti-Tank Grenades. And RPG grenade launchers, this is what hits the tanks further ...
            And at the expense of AGS, by the way, the same Grenade Launchers, I would have looked at such a possibility of using them on this "Combat Module"
            1. -1
              18 March 2019 11: 24
              This is our rocket-propelled grenade here, in the west a grenade launcher, and in fact grenade launchers even if they are disposable. And judging by the comments on the article, doubts about the author’s competence creep in. And AGS have their own niche in the field of DBM, you can rejoice)
              1. +2
                18 March 2019 11: 31
                Quote: English tarantass
                This is our rocket-propelled grenade here, in the west a grenade launcher,

                And forgive this "BM" is it ours or Western?
                Quote: English tarantass
                And AGS have their own niche in the field of DBM, you can rejoice)

                I rejoice ....))))))), and even more))))))))))))), straight laughing , if such a "BM" would become a "universal platform" on which one could simply change weapons to conduct a battle in a specific situation
              2. 0
                18 March 2019 21: 54
                Ummm no! Although we have the abbreviation RPG, but it has 2 decryptions. In relation to RPG-7 - Рscientific Пrotivotank ГRANATOMET. But disposable, like RPG-18 - Рinactive Пrotivotank ГRANATA. Because the grenade launcher is a reusable weapon, but just a grenade is a disposable one.
                Therefore, we have two transcripts of RPGs, and there is no need to come up with the idea that "we have this, but the Americans have it." These two definitions are even spoken in the lessons of OBZH and HE!
                1. 0
                  19 March 2019 09: 25
                  And the teacher told me on OBZh that they switched to 5.45 because of the more severe wounds left by him, and there really is a whole complex of factors. Just a grenade can be called many types of ammunition, but those that are rocket-propelled and in a case with a trigger are already a grenade launcher. But the RShG, a rocket assault grenade, but essentially a flamethrower. Who knows what and how he called, the main thing is what is in fact.
          2. +2
            18 March 2019 15: 24
            Yes there is already. And for a long time 30 years.
            https://topwar.ru/131477-universalnoe-ognevoe-sooruzhenie-uos-gorchak.html
            UOS "Gorchak"
  8. +1
    18 March 2019 09: 59
    As far as I know about the Electric Machine, nevertheless, there are created several other things.
    For example, artificial intelligence, various electronics, blocks, modules, controls, data buses, computational algorithms, drives and control mechanisms. And this module is like an applied work. Everyone criticizes him, but in vain. This vision of the Electric Machine has a right to life. And purely from a design point of view, this module can be anything you like, at least as in your terminator, at least as in others, etc.)
    The main thing of this complex is the control, correction, guidance, stabilization and target isolation system, as I understand it.
    Greetings from Chelyaba.))
  9. 0
    18 March 2019 10: 24
    A simple question arises, but the relatively small weight of the installation is not at the expense of its security, the enemy shoots the same.
  10. +5
    18 March 2019 10: 43
    Apparently, the mass of the entire module is small and in running form is unlikely to exceed 60 kg. This opens up very broad opportunities for the use of such modules.
    BM-3, in my opinion, it is quite possible to use as a portable large-caliber machine gun, if you add to it a wheeled machine, for example, a similar machine to the machine gun SG-43.

    It is strange that the author did not offer to install the module on the cart. After all, the weight of the Maxim machine gun with water on the Sokolov machine is about 70 kg, and it was successfully used on wheelbarrows.
    Especially for the author - the weight of the BM-03 combat module is 210 kg. If we take into account that the module is equipped with a two-plane stabilizer, a thermal imager and a laser range finder, then its energy consumption will require at least 50 kg of battery. Plus a remote control and cable. We get about 300 kg. Spare batteries and ammunition are not counted. And a diesel generator for charging batteries too. And all this on the machine will carry the calculation? Or wear?
    And the elevation angle of the module is 70 degrees, so it does not go into the anti-aircraft.
    In general, the question arises, how are materials of the author published in the "Armament" section, who did not even bother to get acquainted with the performance characteristics of the described sample and misinterpreted its name?

    This is specifically for the author (http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product5506.html).
    1. +4
      18 March 2019 10: 50

      And this is the workplace of the BM-03 operator.
    2. 0
      18 May 2019 09: 14
      The author is not a reader, the author is a "writer".
  11. -1
    18 March 2019 10: 44
    However, there are also arguments against it. Their essence is that for a combat robot of the "machine gun with a motor" format, that is, operating together with the infantry and built into the structure of a motorized rifle company, grenade launchers in the combat module, firstly, are unnecessary, and, secondly, they are dangerous for their own infantry. Superfluous, because they are clearly not enough against heavy armored vehicles, and with lightly armored vehicles (a typical enemy is armored vehicles such as Humvee or its analogues), the robot will cope with a large-caliber machine gun.

    I don’t understand something about the author, is he happy with the Marker combat module or not? Machine gun with a motor yes, but is it needed without the ability to use anti-aircraft weapons? It’s easier to use the good old village-stocky conscript with RMB, why load so? And the advantage of platforms like Marker is in their multifunctionality, modularity and large payload, unlike an infantryman, this technique will go along with them, but it will be able to carry both a machine gun, and an ATGM, and a grenade launcher, and an aiming complex, and soldier’s equipment, in Tom is their use. Even if you do not put a grenade launcher, let it be possible to always use it, you do not need to be limited to one weapon.
  12. +4
    18 March 2019 12: 09
    Their Excellency liked it. That's the whole article. In the Technology section, yeah. A very, very technical article.
    The Russian land will not be impoverished ...)
  13. +1
    18 March 2019 14: 35
    Horses, people, wet fantasies and bold ideas from the last century are mixed in a heap. This unit has nothing to do with the robotic firing points shown in the film. This is just a good DUM with developed means of uh mmmmm "providing situational awareness". You can make a guard based on it. Only who will go for it.
    1. 0
      19 March 2019 19: 00
      Horses have nothing to do with it,

      And the fact that this is crap with a remote operator - a blind and slow artifact - that's for sure. The film had an autonomous sector protection robot. He was exposed to the sector and any movement in the sector led to destruction (while there were enough cartridges). In the film, the cartridges were just enough.

      That is, any operator will respond more slowly than an autonomous robot and the robot will be more big-eyed than the operator behind such a screen.

      The man here is a weak link. He should only expose the sector and turn on the robot. Turn off if necessary. All.

      Such robots should be cheap supplies. You can recharge - recharge. And if that - we leave without any pity, including the function of self-destruction.
      1. 0
        20 March 2019 12: 03
        Over the horses of soria
      2. 0
        20 March 2019 14: 05
        Oh, I just noticed that my message was not published in full. I will repeat. Judging by the infa, the complex has good surveillance equipment. To give the properties of a "robot / sentry", it remains to create a control unit capable of identifying targets in the picture from observation devices, performing selection and capture, as well as controlling the result of firing. And this is with the knowledge that there will definitely not be neutrals and "friends" in the shelling sector. It will not be difficult to create such a block. Now, if you need a system / alien, everything is much more complicated.
        1. 0
          20 March 2019 17: 21
          Security cameras that rotate in the direction of movement on the frame have been around for many, many years. There you need to direct the movement of the infrared spot. And that’s it. No target recognition. Two modes: simple motion and infrared spot motion.

          Such security robots are put on areas where it is necessary to destroy 100% of any intruder without any demagogy on that score: "what if a lapdog, and suddenly forest animals, and suddenly first graders with briefcases, and suddenly a pregnant woman with a stroller, etc."

          They put it on the sector, turned it on - that's it. No need - turned off.
          Very stupid and cheap device, but very useful and not a pity to quit (with self-destruction, of course).
          1. 0
            20 March 2019 17: 26
            Well, there is a little need to modify all the TPK. Prevention and selection of hazard goals should be carried out. The logic is that an ordinary camera will not work.
            1. 0
              20 March 2019 17: 33
              Yes. But with robotic guidance and the rate of fire of a machine gun or spark on priority targets, you can not bother at all, although this can also be done by screwing the laser rangefinder. Near targets are the most dangerous. The logic is simple, not perfect, but working, given that the security robot is a consumable device.

              In short, the idea is that this is not a fantastic device, but today it is quite real and cheap.
              1. 0
                20 March 2019 19: 11
                I agree completely.
  14. 0
    18 March 2019 18: 54
    Why not put the upgrade kit (drive and central control) on the good old ZPU-1,2,3,4 cheap and cheerful. They riveted a lot. The mechanics are already there.
  15. 0
    18 March 2019 20: 15
    The development is very promising! And most importantly, on time and to the place. The installation will be relevant for any type of transport, From armored vehicles to launching ICBMs for security. The only thing (as for me) is that MO
    standardized:
    1. Seating for such complexes as armored cars, boats, and others. And then the manufacturer will proceed from his own considerations.
    2. Power supply (voltage, adapters, other)
    3. Electronics (software (open architecture), the ability to link them (a large number of pieces) into the security systems of objects, temporary bases,
  16. 0
    19 March 2019 18: 38
    Remember the sentry robot from the famous James Cameron movie "Aliens"?


    Not everyone saw this piece in the director's cut of Aliens (Alien-2).

    At the box office, the film was cut relative to this version.
  17. 0
    19 March 2019 18: 49
    We already have a remotely controlled combat module


    There is a difference between the cinematic fully autonomous coaxial machine gun, which, when installed, is only assigned the sector that it must protect, and the "remotely controlled combat module", the difference is the same as between ... I-16 and the "Buran" spacecraft. In favor of the cinematic.

    The combat module must not be remotely controlled by the operator in the actions of "target detection, target recognition, destruction or release", but must act completely independently. That is, the operator sets up a firing sector inside which only enemies can appear. Dot. That is, such a robot is needed to guarantee 100% protection of the sector from enemies, aliens, forest animals or pregnant women with a stroller, if they appear there. This is a purely combat weapon for protecting, for example, field camps of troops or protecting the approaches to the positional areas of the Strategic Missile Forces.

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