US hides the goal of transferring several B-52H to Britain

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In just a couple of days, the United States transferred six B-52H strategic bombers to a military base in the UK. Aircraft B-52H Stratofortress, capable of carrying nuclear weaponrelocated to the Fairford airfield. This information is confirmed by Western sites that monitor movement. aviation.

US hides the goal of transferring several B-52H to Britain




At the same time, Fairford is reportedly awaiting the arrival of two more aircraft of this type.

This transfer has become the most massive over the past 15 and more. And if in the 2003 year, the target of the transfer by the Americans was announced immediately - the fighting against the troops of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, now the redeployment of strategic bombers of the US Air Force is carried out without comment from the American command. The target is hiding.

The appearance of the B-52H Stratofortress near the western borders of Russia can tell about the real purposes of the transfer. The American "strategist" recently appeared over the Baltic - near the air borders of Russia in the region of the Kaliningrad region. The US Air Force bomber, as noted by the Ministry of Defense, did not come closer to the Russian borders closer than 150 km.

For reference: B-52H - one of the modifications of the aircraft B-52, consisting of the US armed with 1955 year. The task that was put by the customer to the Boeing company during the creation of this aircraft sounded as follows: to deliver nuclear bombs for dumping over any point of the Soviet Union.

In May, 1956 was tested to drop a hydrogen bomb from this aircraft.

Earlier, the US military command decided not to abandon the operation of B-52H before 2040 or 2042. It is noted that this will save money and will allow to achieve the full development of the pledged resource of gliders.
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  1. Same lech Rank
    Same lech
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    17 March 2019 06: 16
    Pounding American demons at our borders ... play with fire.
    1. Professor
      Professor
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      17 March 2019 07: 11
      Quote: The same Lech
      Pounding American demons at our borders ... play with fire.

      Are you from France? Whereas the deployment of aviation in the UK is "American demons are crowding on our borders"? request
      1. Serjio Rank
        Serjio
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        17 March 2019 07: 26
        And American nuclear bombs in Germany, Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands against Somali pirates, presumably.
      2. Graz Rank
        Graz
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        17 March 2019 08: 03
        Americans should be afraid of this, because we will respond with the use of nuclear weapons in the USA, when NATO attacks us, that's all
        1. private person Rank
          private person
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          17 March 2019 08: 28
          They are afraid, the time of arrival is different for us and they are separated by the ocean and with Europe? 10-20 minutes and they are already on our territory, I think they do not mind Europe. And Poseidons and hypersonic missiles are not yet guarding our borders.
          1. Ramadan Rank
            Ramadan
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            17 March 2019 10: 50
            But what about our nuclear submarines with nuclear weapons on duty off the coast of the Yankees?
            1. private person Rank
              private person
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              17 March 2019 11: 15
              But after all, someone should give the command to the nuclear submarines, and they will most likely ask for confirmation to this team and this is all the time. Of course, the answer will be decent, and no one can predict the outcome.
              1. Ramadan Rank
                Ramadan
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                17 March 2019 11: 19
                As a result, yes, I agree completely. I don’t know about the confirmation, but I’m sure that there is some kind of instruction or algorithm of actions for this case. We have neither amateurs, thank God, work in this thread)
                1. private person Rank
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                  17 March 2019 12: 38
                  Most likely there is an algorithm, but put yourself in the place of a nuclear submarine captain.
                  1. Oden280 Rank
                    Oden280
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                    17 March 2019 15: 58
                    In what sense? The captain receives an order and must fulfill it. Neurotics and mummies are not held in such positions.
                    1. private person Rank
                      private person
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                      17 March 2019 16: 22
                      Neurotics and mumbles are not kept, so I did not write about this.
                      1. Oden280 Rank
                        Oden280
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                        17 March 2019 19: 59
                        What did you write about?
                  2. Ramadan Rank
                    Ramadan
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                    18 March 2019 11: 26
                    Quote: private person
                    Most likely there is an algorithm, but put yourself in the place of a nuclear submarine captain.

                    And where does it? Well, I’ll sit clapping my eyes)))) Each specialist is good in its place!
                    And if I found out that for thousands of kilometers the enemy destroyed my state, my home, my family and friends, etc., then believe me, my hand would not flinch ...
        2. Mimoxod Rank
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          17 March 2019 09: 43
          Quote: Graz
          Americans should be afraid of this, because we will respond with the use of nuclear weapons in the USA, when NATO attacks us, that's all
          That's when the Tu-95 will be in Venezuela and Cuba, then the Yankees really shake ...
          1. YOUR Rank
            YOUR
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            17 March 2019 13: 32
            Does Venezuela have our nuclear weapons?
            Read more. Russia does not keep its nuclear weapons abroad and will not send it to any countries. So what are the Yankees afraid of?
            1. Mimoxod Rank
              Mimoxod
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              17 March 2019 13: 56
              The Tu -95 is imprisoned under the Kyrgyz Republic, both tactical, with TNT and strategic with nuclear warheads, and what is stated for the world is not always respected in real life, albeit hypothetically the threat of a quick response hanging over the United States may think more about whether or not to be them on Earth ....
              1. YOUR Rank
                YOUR
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                17 March 2019 14: 05
                I fly without nuclear weapons on board. There will be too much scandal if the opposite is discovered. You can run into world ignore.
                So do not console yourself thinking that they simply do not speak.
                1. Mimoxod Rank
                  Mimoxod
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                  17 March 2019 16: 57
                  Here, the Yankees also like to play on this, such as lay down the powers of the authorities, otherwise we will send them to world ignore, by the way, no one has canceled the bluff in politics - this is about nuclear weapons, high-likes and that's it laughing I hope we fly to a database with combat KR, but is there something there or not, let the Americans think .......
                  1. YOUR Rank
                    YOUR
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                    18 March 2019 03: 09
                    Just the performance of the contract.
                    And what are such databases with nuclear weapons?
            2. Syroitel_nik Rank
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              17 March 2019 19: 34
              General Staff is obliged to tell you where and what is it? When necessary, they will show the mattresses and they will be cut off. No doubt even
              1. YOUR Rank
                YOUR
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                18 March 2019 03: 11
                They probably tell you if you know everything.
                But there is still SALT and our internal documents, for example, the military doctrine of the Russian Federation. Read and there will be no clever questions and assumptions.
          2. Horn Rank
            Horn
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            18 March 2019 05: 52
            No one will shake. What, the children of Trump and his associates, or major US officials live in Russia? No. Does the US keep its money in Russia? No.
            And the children of our officials? Is their money a business property? Stolen by overwork? Well, who will bomb it all?
      3. KOCMOC Rank
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        17 March 2019 08: 20
        Quote: professor
        Are you from France? Then how is the deployment of aviation in the UK "American demons are piling up on our borders"?

        It does not matter, with the current development of long-range weapons, within whose radius the country is located, they nevertheless are a threat, it follows that certain types of weapons, even without a location, are already a threat only by the fact of their existence.
      4. Piramidon Rank
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        17 March 2019 08: 38
        Quote: professor
        (Oleg Sokolov)

        The Yankees defender is right there. Trump's salary or something?
    2. Tarhan
      Tarhan
      +1
      17 March 2019 11: 04
      Pounding American demons at our borders ... play with fire.

      The article is silent. And they ask readers a provocative question - What are they doing here? Hinting at some kind of threat and not deciphering the true purpose of arrival. So they flew to the "Giant Spear" exercise. The exercises will end and they will fly to the USA.

      This is like the Tu-160 flight exercises in Venezuela.
    3. YOUR Rank
      YOUR
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      17 March 2019 13: 35
      It is not written where these planes were transferred from. There is a suspicion that from the air base on Fr. Guam. On about. Guam, they were just closer to our borders. Far East at their sight.
      1. Thunderbolt Rank
        Thunderbolt
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        17 March 2019 15: 51
        They flew from Barksdale air base /// pcs. Louisiana /// --- 2nd US Air Force bomber wing /// up to 44 B-52H ///. They have large letters LA painted on the keel. And by the color of the tips you can determine from which squadron. For example, this one is red, so it is from the 96th squadron.
        1. YOUR Rank
          YOUR
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          17 March 2019 15: 52
          Quite possible. But the article is not written and there is no photo of the aircraft.
          1. Thunderbolt Rank
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            17 March 2019 15: 59
            Yes, here they often report in general terms about the news. The original sources say that it was from there that they came.
            1. YOUR Rank
              YOUR
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              17 March 2019 16: 09
              Probably.
              1. Thunderbolt Rank
                Thunderbolt
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                17 March 2019 16: 25
                Yes, definitely from Louisiana. Here is a video "from there" --- 1.10 sec. he's showing his LA and blue tip, so he is from 20th Squadron.Posted by: 15 mar. 2019
    4. Tank jacket Rank
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      18 March 2019 06: 37
      Strategists are waiting for the planned swamp and riots. Trojan horse in action.
  2. Victor_B Rank
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    17 March 2019 06: 18
    Nothing good.
    But raising a panic is pointless.
    Just ride on the nerves.
    (Burcha under his breath) And it’s vigorous that he can drag a loaf ... Yes, these loaves even drag helicopters (PLO).
    1. The leader of the Redskins Rank
      The leader of the Redskins
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      17 March 2019 09: 23
      When our pair Tu-160 made to Venezuela, here, bravura customers sounded on IN and no one predicted the start of the third world war.
      1. YOUR Rank
        YOUR
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        17 March 2019 13: 48
        Everything is fine. From the same series as our scouts, and their spies.
  3. Graz Rank
    Graz
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    17 March 2019 06: 20
    nothing, soon the submarines with Poseidons will patrol off the British coast, then we’ll look at the Britons
    1. Same lech Rank
      Same lech
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      17 March 2019 06: 35
      A dozen Poseidons for Britain are enough for the eyes ...
      Anglo-Saxon scribblers are freaking out about this.

      https://inosmi.ru/military/20190316/244760490.html
      1. YOUR Rank
        YOUR
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        17 March 2019 13: 57
        One is enough. But I have a question, how much do we need for a similar "happiness"?
        Nikita 50 MG to the New Earth grunted, so the whole ball was shaking, what would happen if there are smart people and your advice would follow a dozen 100 MT at the same time. What part of the Earth will you fly to the Sun on?
  4. aszzz888 Rank
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    17 March 2019 06: 23
    Mericatos just don't do anything. So they conceived another muck. Well, just in case:

    "NADNESS
    Feminine
    1.
    Disgusting object
    "Throw out this g."
    2.
    Disgusting act, meanness; disgusting words.
    "Do nasty" "" nasty - Wiktionary
    https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/гадость"
    1. Hto tama Rank
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      17 March 2019 07: 35
      That's for sure, mattresses do nothing for nothing, and then there's 29 March on the nose.
      1. aszzz888 Rank
        aszzz888
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        17 March 2019 08: 16
        Hto Tama (Sasha) Today, 07: 35
        +1
        That's for sure, mattresses do nothing for nothing, and then there's 29 March on the nose.

        Exactly. The imperialist simply will not spend money, obviously what a dirty trick they will have.
  5. Lime Rank
    Lime
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    17 March 2019 06: 27
    The war smelled, but the Russians are ready ..! soldier The hand does not flinch, press the button, we have nothing to lose.!
    1. Technologist Rank
      Technologist
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      17 March 2019 07: 59
      Go do the lessons, Anika the warrior.
    2. The leader of the Redskins Rank
      The leader of the Redskins
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      17 March 2019 09: 24
      Go straight to virtual paradise ....
  6. Mavrikiy Rank
    Mavrikiy
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    17 March 2019 07: 00
    Well, one island in the North Sea will be less.
    1. Tarhan
      Tarhan
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      17 March 2019 11: 07
      Well, one island in the North Sea will be less.

      They don’t know geography, but there too. And here is the island of Great Britain, if the planes arrived from the United States.
      1. Mavrikiy Rank
        Mavrikiy
        0
        17 March 2019 12: 58
        Quote: Tarkhan
        Well, one island in the North Sea will be less.

        They don’t know geography, but there too. And here is the island of Great Britain, if the planes arrived from the United States.

        Who woke you up? Geography Olympiad next semester.
        Now the question is about military bases and retaliatory strikes, including nuclear ones.
        1. Tarhan
          Tarhan
          +2
          17 March 2019 13: 00
          Who woke you up? Geography Olympiad next semester.

          I mean, what is the island in the North Sea? Great Britain or US island.
          The question is about the US strategic aviation exercises, and you about the destruction of the island in the North Sea.
          1. Mavrikiy Rank
            Mavrikiy
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            17 March 2019 13: 15
            Quote: Tarkhan
            Who woke you up? Geography Olympiad next semester.

            I mean, what is the island in the North Sea? Great Britain or US island.
            The question is about the US strategic aviation exercises, and you about the destruction of the island in the North Sea.

            Whoever has a question about the teachings, he will continue to stand. And who can read LETTERS:
            now the redeployment of strategic bombers of the US Air Force is carried out without comment from the US command. The target is hiding.
  7. Sovetskii Rank
    Sovetskii
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    17 March 2019 07: 30
    against the march of memory of the legionnaires of the SS

    "Noble" punishers and executioners were .. Even the Germans are shocked by their cruelty .. How many souls of the peaceful have they ruined on the territory of Belarus, Ukraine, Poland ..
    And what tenacious bastards crawled out of the cracks, after the collapse of the USSR, and what kind of faces. negative soldier
    Eh, Comrade Beria did not modify it, and Khrushchev then released them all to freedom ... Here we see the result ..
    1. Sovetskii Rank
      Sovetskii
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      17 March 2019 08: 53
      Wrong topics .. hi Although one hell and here it is all in the subject, in principle ..
  8. askort154 Rank
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    17 March 2019 07: 34
    Some statistics. B-52 in 1961 with two thermonuclear bombs fell apart in the air. One bomb landed on a parachute, the second fell into a swamp, its uranium core and thermal charge have not yet been removed. In the same year, the B-52 crashed near Yuba City. Two thermonuclear bombs were thrown when a plane collided with the ground. Protective devices prevented the explosion.
    In 1966 over Spain, both aircraft fired up during refueling. Together with the wreckage of the B-52, 4 thermonuclear bombs fell. None of them detonated. Two collapsed, leading to p / active pollution. The United States cleared this territory, and stopped such flights over Europe. Total in military conflicts, USA lost
    30 pcs B-52.
    1. Professor
      Professor
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      17 March 2019 07: 40
      Quote: askort154
      In total, in military conflicts, the US lost 30 pcs. B-52.

      30 LA how many sorties? How many hundreds of tons of bombs they used for such losses?
      1. asar Rank
        asar
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        17 March 2019 08: 01
        January 21, 1968, one of the largest nuclear accidents in history happened - a plane crash over the base of Thule in Greenland. The American B-52G bomber, carrying four thermonuclear bombs aboard, caught fire in the air and crashed onto the ice of the North Star Bay. A nuclear explosion did not occur, but the radioactive components were scattered over a large area, and then completely went under water. In 2008, the British BBC Corporation published a series of articles based on declassified documents, according to which only three bombs were found, while the fourth has not yet been found.
        As it turned out, there are many similar incidents in history. According to CNN, during the years of the Cold War, the United States lost 11 atomic bombs due to various accidents. But there were cases when nuclear weapons were lost not because of a technical malfunction or accident, but as a result of human inattention or outright negligence.
      2. Sovetskii Rank
        Sovetskii
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        17 March 2019 08: 06
        Quote: professor
        How many hundreds of tons of bombs they used for such losses?

        How many countries destroyed, how many civilians, etc. .. Already the professor would have been silent (always go where you shouldn't go, then you are offended ..) hi
        1. Professor
          Professor
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          17 March 2019 08: 23
          Quote: Sovetskii
          Quote: professor
          How many hundreds of tons of bombs they used for such losses?

          How many countries destroyed, how many civilians, etc. .. Already the professor would have been silent (always go where you shouldn't go, then you are offended ..) hi

          Are you the site wrong? it Military Review if anything.

          You will be surprised, but people are killed during the bombing. When you bombard Syria, civilians also die. Stop discussing your technique?

          I am not offended since high school.
          1. asar Rank
            asar
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            17 March 2019 08: 31
            "Your bombing of Syria also kills civilians."

            When and where, without referring to "Western sources" ?!
            And the actions of the so-called. "coalitions" in the bombing in Syria?
            Not so long ago, the "coalition" was bombed again!
            Say where?
            In the same Syria!
            And in Afghanistan, the wedding was leveled!
            And the bombing in Kunduz by the US Air Force?
            It’s easy to remember!

            PS By the way: Our Kosters do not have such Kosyakov, it's just Great, Our MTR works very well!
            Well done boys!!!!! soldier
            1. Professor
              Professor
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              17 March 2019 09: 15
              Quote: asar
              PS By the way: Our Kosters do not have such Kosyakov, it's just Great, Our MTR works very well!
              Well done boys!!!!!

              Of course it does not happen. Where the bomb VKS falls there and the terrorist.

              Quote: Sovetskii
              I know ... That you are clearly mistaken, this is the Russian site!

              Well? On the title page there is no sign "Only Russian".

              Quote: Sovetskii
              Yes, it can’t be a professor .. When you bomb "pointwise" Syria you never have civilian casualties .. Soak a couple of arrogant Arabs and that's it)))

              Not once did Syria report the death of civilians during our pinpoint bombardment. Maybe because we are bombing a) extremely high-precision ammunition, b) exclusively military targets, c) only at night when civilians sleep in their homes?

              Quote: Sovetskii
              I would be very happy if YOU stopped doing this with your malice, etc ...

              Do not like it, do not read.

              Quote: Sovetskii
              Therefore, fled to Israel? I'm not surprised...

              You cannot please. Either "roll to your Israel", then "fled to Israel." You will decide. wassat
              1. asar Rank
                asar
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                17 March 2019 09: 33
                You, Oleg - "Horses, people are mixed in a heap,"!
                All were mixed, "in a heap"!
                Why is this so ?!

                Add:
                Not a single air raid of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the "barmaley" inflicted damage on the peaceful Syrians!
                No one!
                Our aircraft manufacturers and covering their MTR work Filigree!
                How diamonds sharpen!
                Believe it!
                Just come on without the "white helmets", BBC and other crap in the form of CNN! OK?!
                If there is a rebuttal, please, in the documentary video, Video of the Russian Air Forces raid on peaceful settlements of Syria, etc.!
                And if there isn’t one, then you’ll have a bay in your kibbutz!
                And all these blah blah, you know, are fed up with the order, not just me!
                Unlike the blows of the so-called. "coalitions"!
                1. Professor
                  Professor
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                  17 March 2019 10: 03
                  Quote: asar
                  Not a single air raid of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the "barmaley" inflicted damage on the peaceful Syrians!
                  No one!

                  It's not funny anymore.
                  In three years, about 100 of thousands of terrorists were destroyed in Syria
                  According to the Federation Council, 85 thousand of them eliminated by the Russian Aerospace Forces
                  https://www.interfax.ru/world/631224

                  Not a single civilian? How are your cast iron able to recognize a terrorist in a city building?

                  “For two months, cruiser pilots flew 420 combat missions, including 117 at night. Destroyed 1252 object of terrorists ", - reported in the Ministry of Defense.
                  https://russian.rt.com/world/article/547501-minoborony-itogi-operaciya-siriya
                  Destroyed 1252 object of terrorists and not a single peace has been affected? Yah?

                  Quote: asar
                  Our aircraft manufacturers and covering their MTR work Filigree!
                  How diamonds sharpen!
                  Believe it!

                  I believe. lol I will not even show videos of your jewelry beats. I just believe.
                  1. asar Rank
                    asar
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                    17 March 2019 10: 15
                    Good to laugh, not in the stall!
                    For this, there are MTRs and "beacons"!

                    And that's why pin.dosy constantly "mark" in the wrong place, that's the question!
                    1. Professor
                      Professor
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                      17 March 2019 11: 56
                      Quote: asar
                      Good to laugh, not in the stall!

                      Do not be rude.

                      Quote: asar
                      For this, there are MTRs and "beacons"!

                      Beacons? For the iron pot? In a captured enemy city? I believe.

                      Quote: asar
                      And that's why pin.dosy constantly "mark" in the wrong place, that's the question!

                      The fact that Americans occasionally miss it is normal. How can you determine the bearded men who are flying in all pairs and shooting to the side - is this a wedding or an attack?

                      Quote: Sovetskii
                      Where is interesting is all Syria can tell when ALL the world's media in your hands Israeli ..? (try to kill civilians from Jewish bombardment) .. At best, unavailable, at worst, everyone can block and even sue for anti-Semitism .. (((

                      Zakharova also in our hands? Maybe SANA is also in the hands of Israeli ..? You are thinner than a trolley.

                      Quote: Sovetskii
                      Well, in the Jewish Autonomous Region, welcome .. And better .. God you judge.

                      No, really. This is a fiasco without us. hi
                      Quote: askort154
                      The strategic bomber Tu-95, in the entire history of its operation, did not drop a single bomb on the territory of other states. (Only to landfills in its own country) That is, did not kill a single person!

                      https://ria.ru/20170926/1505602869.html
                      Bombers Tu-95MS hit the targets of terrorists in Syria
                  2. Piramidon Rank
                    Piramidon
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                    17 March 2019 12: 19
                    Quote: professor
                    It's not funny anymore.

                    But in fact, again one idle talk and speculation. Where are the facts of strikes against civilians? I put in one thing - "I don't believe". negative
                    1. asar Rank
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                      17 March 2019 14: 51
                      Stepan! Bro!
                      There were NO attacks on the "peacekeeper" in Syria from the Russian Aerospace Forces!
                2. Sky Rank
                  Sky
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                  17 March 2019 11: 17
                  Quote: asar
                  Not a single air raid of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the "barmaley" did not damage the peaceful Syrians! No one!
                  Patriotism is not a substitute for conscience and shame. No pilot will believe you that it is technically possible to destroy tens of thousands of militants and thousands of military installations by bombing, so that not a single peaceful Syrian would suffer. You rightly noted that the Americans constantly screw up, but even they do not have the conscience to say that there are no civilian casualties - they regularly voice these casualties and investigate these cases. And this despite the fact that their flying time and the number of sorties are higher, respectively, the experience gained by their pilots is huge. Where did our pilots acquire combat experience for the last 10-20 years? Rustem, if you want to emphasize the quality of videoconferencing work - do it correctly, but yell with a bunch of exclamation marks "None!" it's just a shameless bottom.
                  1. asar Rank
                    asar
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                    17 March 2019 12: 52
                    You yourself are the bottom!
                    If you doubt it, drive it and see what the "coalition" bombers are doing and what the VKS is doing!
                    Then you will Cove! \
                    A whistle from the couch is not difficult!
                    I do it competently and did before being injured!
                    1. Sky Rank
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                      17 March 2019 14: 46
                      First, do not poke me, please, we are strangers to you. Secondly, the coalition’s strikes on civilians are not an excuse for our mistakes, but only emphasize the military truth known to everyone - not one war is not complete without the death of civilians. And we do not play avidarts there, they use assault and front-line aviation, which uses completely non-cardboard fabs. Therefore, correctly, this means realistically assessing the percentage of civilian casualties of the total number of killed militants, taking into account the CWO of the weapons used and the combat experience of the pilots using them.
                      1. asar Rank
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                        17 March 2019 19: 19
                        Take a look at the amers, pliz! Who has more jambs ?!
                      2. Sky Rank
                        Sky
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                        17 March 2019 20: 36
                        Quote: asar
                        Take a look at the amers, pliz! Who has more jambs ?!

                        I follow these lovers of democracy on the wings of rockets even from Yugoslavia, they have a lot of stocks over the past 20 years, they have killed thousands of civilians, because unleash wars with a fair regularity. This does not justify our mistakes.
                      3. asar Rank
                        asar
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                        17 March 2019 21: 13
                        What mistakes can be voiced ?!
                        So far, apart from "blah blah, Russian planes have killed a bunch of civilians in Syria" there is nothing! The bombing by the "coalition" is obvious! And where are the same facts about the RF Aerospace Forces ?!
                        Yes, FABs are not cardboard, I agree! But where are the facts that the damage was done to the civilian population of Syria ?!

                        "The fact that the Americans occasionally miss is normal."

                        Well, of course! This is the Americans! They can do anything!
                        Because they take the rest of the world for savages with batons!
                        They alone bring "light into darkness"! laughing
                      4. Sky Rank
                        Sky
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                        17 March 2019 21: 45
                        Quote: asar
                        Really ?! So what?!
                        And the fact that it is time for our military to stop lying and start reporting to society for their mistakes, and not telling tales about "none of the civilians were hurt."
                        Quote: asar
                        But where are the facts that the damage was done to the civilian population of Syria ?!
                        I cited the facts of the bombing of residential neighborhoods below, they are full on YouTube, although the Ministry of Defense claims that aviation is not used in settlements. If you hope that I will begin to copy here photos of bloodied children and women, then you will not wait for this, you can not provoke me. If you have the courage, find yourself.
                        Your lies, double standards and hypocrisy are disgusting to me, therefore I will not continue the discussion.
                      5. asar Rank
                        asar
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                        17 March 2019 22: 00
                        Well, they said about youtube and made you laugh!
                        There is also a lot about the Russian "invasion" in Hoh.Landiya!
                        Look more at youtube, twitter, cnn and other crap, so "a lot" of "interesting" things you "learn"!
                        And for the "bazaar", about courage, double standards and other garbage I will answer:
                        You didn’t go with me to a military exit, therefore you should not talk about courage!
                        Hoch.lov so accepted, about double standards ?!
                  2. Piramidon Rank
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                    17 March 2019 16: 35
                    .
                    Quote: Skye
                    Americans constantly mess up, but even they don’t have the conscience to say that there are no casualties among civilians — they regularly voice these losses ...

                    The "honest and conscientious Yankes" voice this only when they are pinned down with facts. But do you have any facts about the attacks on weddings and funeral processions by the Russian Aerospace Forces, as the US Air Force regularly does? Or you, like that Jewish "professor", can only spread your conjectures and your own - "I do not believe"?
                    1. Sky Rank
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                      17 March 2019 19: 09
                      Quote: Piramidon
                      The "honest and conscientious Yankes" voice this only when they are pinned down with facts.
                      These facts are voiced regularly, naturally without any pleasure.
                      "The US-led International Coalition Against ISIS on Friday officially acknowledged that its airstrikes on targets in Syria and Iraq from 2014 to 2017 killed 624 civilians. This figure may increase as more than 400 death reports are being investigated. civilians. "
                      https://russian.rt.com/world/article/415808-siriya-koaliciya-zhertvy
                      "Published a monthly military report on civilian casualties as a result of the actions of the coalition under the command of the United States. During the airstrikes against the Islamic State group since 2014, 1139 civilians have been unintentionally killed in Iraq and Syria."
                      https://www.svoboda.org/a/29684251.html
                      Quote: Piramidon
                      But the facts of striking weddings and funeral processions by the Russian air forces, as you regularly do by the US Air Force, do you have?
                      The Ministry of Defense claims that as a result of Russian attacks on terrorists, more than 86 thousand militants were destroyed from the beginning of the operation. During the military operations, the airborne forces completed more than 40 thousand sorties, of which over 21 thousand were performed at night. As a result, about 122 thousand objects were hit and most of the terrorists were eliminated.
                      Do you, like Rustem, insist that not a single civilian was injured as a result of these strikes? In what format do you want to get the facts: from the press releases of the Ministry of Defense, SANA reports? Do you realize that strikes are being made on the enemy's territory and information can be obtained only from the "other side", but you deliberately consider it unreliable? Then what do you want from me? You can find the video of the bombing in the urban area yourself.
                      Look, and then answer honestly and without hypocrisy (it does not paint a military man at all) to the question: are you really sure that none of the civilians died there?
                      1. Piramidon Rank
                        Piramidon
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                        17 March 2019 19: 20
                        Quote: Skye
                        are you really sure that none of the civilians died there?

                        Again sheer verbiage and no specifics. If you say the opposite, then once again I ask you to bring the FACTS, and not your CONCEPTS and your "I do not believe", Mr. fellow Jewish "professor".
                      2. Sky Rank
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                        17 March 2019 20: 29
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        mister fellow countryman of the Jewish "professor".
                        I am Russian, I live in Russia and I am ashamed of you.
                        Here are the specifics in numbers: https://airwars.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Reckless-Disregard.pdf
                        Here is a video of the bombing of residential areas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heC2SjLwEj4
                        Is it really so difficult to answer a simple question: do you say that it is theoretically and practically possible to destroy tens of thousands of militants without hitting civilians?
                      3. Piramidon Rank
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                        17 March 2019 21: 58
                        Quote: Skye
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        mister fellow countryman of the Jewish "professor".
                        I am Russian, I live in Russia and I am ashamed of you.
                        Here are the specifics in numbers: https://airwars.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Reckless-Disregard.pdf
                        Here is a video of the bombing of residential areas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heC2SjLwEj4
                        Is it really so difficult to answer a simple question: do you say that it is theoretically and practically possible to destroy tens of thousands of militants without hitting civilians?

                        Navalny also considers himself Russian and lives in Russia. Where are dead civilians in your links? Again all the same balabolstvo and own inventions, if only to defound Russia. negative
                      4. Sky Rank
                        Sky
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                        18 March 2019 18: 10
                        I understand correctly that you did not open the links? Or are you bad with English?
                      5. Piramidon Rank
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                        17 March 2019 22: 11
                        Quote: Skye
                        you argue that it is theoretically and practically possible to destroy tens of thousands of militants without hitting civilians?

                        I admit only irrefutable facts and not your theoretical fabrications.
                      6. Sky Rank
                        Sky
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                        18 March 2019 18: 23
                        I asked for your personal opinion. Not what the press service of the Ministry of Defense told you, not what you saw on Kisel TV, but your personal opinion... I want you to say out loud: "Yes, I affirm that it is possible, by launching missile and bomb strikes on populated areas, to destroy 86 thousand militants without hurting civilians." Judging by the fact that you are spinning like in a frying pan, you do not have the conscience to say it. Well, that's not bad.

                        In general, this is some kind of theater of the absurd - I have to look for evidence that the statements of the Ministry of Defense contradict common sense and all the accumulated experience of military operations. Let’s the other way around: provide me with irrefutable evidence that ALL who were destroyed were militants. Your theoretical speculations are no longer interesting to me.
                      7. Piramidon Rank
                        Piramidon
                        -1
                        18 March 2019 18: 44
                        Quote: Skye
                        I am forced to look for evidence that the statements of the Ministry of Defense are contrary to common sense and all the experience gained in military operations.

                        And do not look, because you will not find. I repeat once again, give the facts, not your speculations. All your statements are not common sense, but only assumptions. Arguing with you, as I understand it, is useless. You are one of the constellation of Jewish "professors" who have been brainwashed by the Israeli propaganda machine.
                  3. asar Rank
                    asar
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                    17 March 2019 21: 24
                    they regularly voice these losses and investigate these cases.

                    Really ?! So what?!
              2. Sovetskii Rank
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                17 March 2019 10: 25
                Quote: professor
                Not once did Syria report the death of civilians during our pinpoint bombardment. Maybe because we are bombing a) extremely high-precision ammunition, b) exclusively military targets, c) only at night when civilians sleep in their homes?

                laughing lol You guys all read it ..? crying
                Where is all this interesting? Syria can report when ALL world media are in your Israeli hands ..? (try to gain the death of civilians from the Jewish bombing) .. negative In the best case, unavailable, in the worst, everyone can block and even sue anti-Semitism .. (((

                Quote: professor
                Do not like it, do not read.

                I read and advise others to understand all this, what is happening in world politics ..
                Quote: professor
                You cannot please. Either "roll to your Israel", then "fled to Israel." You will decide

                Well in Jewish Autonomous Okrug, welcome hi ..And better .. God is your judge.
          2. Sovetskii Rank
            Sovetskii
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            17 March 2019 08: 35
            Quote: professor
            You are not mistaken site? This is a Military Review if that.

            I know ... That you are clearly mistaken, this is the Russian site!
            Quote: professor
            You will be surprised, but during the bombing, people die.

            Yes, it can’t be a professor .. When you bomb "pointwise" Syria you never have civilian casualties .. Soak a couple of arrogant Arabs and that's it)))
            Quote: professor
            Stop discussing your technique?

            I would be very happy if YOU stopped doing this with your malice, etc ... hi
            Quote: professor
            I am not offended since high school.

            Therefore, fled to Israel? I'm not surprised... soldier
          3. askort154 Rank
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            17 March 2019 09: 48
            Professor.... I have not been offended since high school.

            Clear. It turns out that he was often offended in the kindergarten, and in the sandbox. wink
            1. asar Rank
              asar
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              17 March 2019 09: 58
              When the teacher screamed:
              - Again panties written ?!
      3. askort154 Rank
        askort154
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        17 March 2019 10: 14
        Professor.....30 aircraft for how many sorties? How many hundreds of tons of bombs did they use for such losses?

        "professor", are you sane? Cite such "advantages" of B-52. I have not yet indicated how many people were burned with napalm.
        For a normal person, statistics are much more acceptable:
        The strategic bomber Tu-95, in the entire history of its operation,
        I didn’t drop a single bomb on the territory of other states. (only on the landfills in my country) That is, I didn’t kill a single person! Although still in service, like the B-52, they are of the same age.
        Yes
  9. Sovetskii Rank
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    17 March 2019 08: 03
    In just a couple of days, the United States deployed six strategic B-52H bombers to a military base in the UK.

    The Russians are testing the "Filin" system there, so the panic in London has begun ..
    The tests must be stopped, and then suddenly the US pilots will also have some kind of vision and voices ... (Joke!) ... bully
    1. asar Rank
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      17 March 2019 08: 25
      In the afterlife voice to each pilot:
      “Are you ready to kill millions of people ?!”
      - Who are you after that ?!
      “I will come to you again, wicked man!”
      - UUUU! laughing
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      2. Sovetskii Rank
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        17 March 2019 10: 29
        Quote: asar
        I will come to you again, wicked man!

        And the anthem of Russia ..! wassat
        1. asar Rank
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          17 March 2019 10: 31
          Well after that only in an uncontrollable corkscrew! wassat
          Because the "tower" will blow!
  10. Thrifty Rank
    Thrifty
    +3
    17 March 2019 08: 25
    Another attempt to psychologically scare us, and so it is clear to all smart people - all these preparations for the war against Russia in the European theater of war.
    1. The leader of the Redskins Rank
      The leader of the Redskins
      +3
      17 March 2019 09: 30
      And How? Strongly frightened after intimidation?
      1. asar Rank
        asar
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        17 March 2019 10: 27
        You know, Nazarius!
        Somehow "on the drum"!
        I'm going to the last one on the ice, maybe I'll catch that!
        And that's it - America, b-52!
        I may be biting crazy!
        Pike perch, pike and perch there are all sorts!
  11. Kibl Rank
    Kibl
    -4
    17 March 2019 08: 50
    So does this trash still fly ?! Every second B52 has long worked out its resource, they are gathered from all air bases on one side by straining in prayer and driven to the right spot. Not a plane, but a scarecrow is rusty!
  12. asar Rank
    asar
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    17 March 2019 09: 02
    "Before you do the irreparable, think if there is no other way out but to kill hundreds of millions of women, children, old people."
  13. Fantazer911 Rank
    Fantazer911
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    17 March 2019 09: 34
    As the Nazis in 41 Surround Russia from all sides, from this flank Poland, the Baltic states, Sweden, Finland, on the other hand it is Japan which strengthens its presence in the Sea of ​​Japan, tea doesn’t end in good, gradually build up its infamous presence form a powerful shock grouping, I won’t be amazed if the Ukrainian democrats also trample Ukraine!
    1. asar Rank
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      17 March 2019 10: 08
      From northern Afghanistan, there will be in the Caucasus!
      Not S.SY, Vladimir, Break through! am

      (No offense, Vladimir! good )
      1. Fantazer911 Rank
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        17 March 2019 11: 42
        Yes, at my age it's too late sc. pity, it's only a pity for those who fall under the distribution, and this is the young generation, children who have not graduated from school, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, and in general those whom the unexpected will catch by surprise, and it is too late to worry about themselves, everyone will go under the batch, and states and the entire mattress in Europe will receive a tolerant one, the ashes after that will continue to pour and circle in the atmosphere for a long time, so it will no longer be air but contaminated with the atmosphere, God forbid that their military industrial complex and generals wash their grandmothers and rob their treasury and nothing more , time will tell, although as "wanga" once told me, if thunder does not break out at 13 g, then we will live for a long time and kneading up to 40 is unlikely to happen, but there may be a human factor such as Russians go and some kind of press on start button, God forbid, but anything can happen
        1. asar Rank
          asar
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          17 March 2019 12: 00
          Hopefully the mind will prevail!
  14. capsid
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    17 March 2019 10: 23
    Airplanes should not stand in hangars .. Pilots are training .. Airfield Fairford, although a spare, but managed to be noted in use for military operations. Not so long ago, he underwent a deep modernization, now they will check it to the end, and will begin to conduct military operations.
  15. Е2 - Е4
    Е2 - Е4
    -1
    17 March 2019 10: 33
    An excellent target for our C 400. Zircons. Kinzhalov. Obviously forgot what happened to Donald Cook, well, what can we repeat ...
    1. Sky Rank
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      17 March 2019 15: 18
      B-52 - a target for Zircons and Daggers? And what happened to Cook, they ate him? Are you sure a Navy colonel? wassat
      1. Е2 - Е4
        Е2 - Е4
        -1
        17 March 2019 15: 34
        What happened to Donald Cook ... they talked a lot about it on TV. I advise you to watch TV, otherwise you live and do not know what is happening in the world. About this a lot has been written and told, full of material on the Internet. Take at least 2-3 hours to watch television news channels, and round tables my advice to you.
        1. Sky Rank
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          17 March 2019 15: 42
          Thanks for the advice, of course. But my advice is exactly the opposite - in no case do you watch television news channels, it dulls people, makes you believe in things imposed by propaganda. Get info from the Internet, it’s also full of fakes, but you can independently separate the grains from the chaff, and not chew porridge from Kiselev. Then you will understand that nothing wrong with Cook happened.
  16. Rostislav Rank
    Rostislav
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    17 March 2019 11: 12
    And if the penguins and call the goal of the transfer of bombers, you believe? Right?
    Oh yes, they don’t lie. The missile defense in Romania is really from Iranian missiles that are aimed at Washington.
  17. Hexagon Rank
    Hexagon
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    17 March 2019 11: 51
    Comrade experts, that is the question that has arisen from me. NATO rats, in which case, will hit large cities, which in principle they do not even hide. We have a kind of otvetka, and then on the military bases. Or will the nuclear iron go through the capitals too?
    Will it be adequate to declare that, in the event of a conflict with the use of nuclear weapons, the capitals / large cities of the countries located in their territory on nuclear weapons of America will also be sprayed? I'm talking about European hangers-on.
  18. Zomanus Rank
    Zomanus
    +2
    17 March 2019 12: 06
    Damn, how healthy he is. And these chassis are at the ends of the wings ....
    Yes, they simply threw Europe to remind who the pope is.
    1. asar Rank
      asar
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      17 March 2019 21: 32
      We had a similar one, M-4, with a chassis at the ends of bearing planes
  19. Mentat Rank
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    17 March 2019 12: 42
    Quote: professor
    Of course it does not happen. Where the bomb VKS falls there and the terrorist.

    Strongly bend the stick.
    What do you know, what considerations, what morality, what are you going to? And what will you come up with with such methods?
    I really hope that your words are just a reflection of your private opinion.
  20. 16112014nk Rank
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    17 March 2019 13: 03
    Quote: Graz
    Americans should be afraid of this, because we will respond with the use of yao in the usa,

    But what about children, wives, mistresses, villas, finances, acquired by overwork and other real estate and real estate in different Florida and California?
  21. Politician Rank
    Politician
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    17 March 2019 14: 14
    On these B-52s, our one A-50 is enough;
    1. Sky Rank
      Sky
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      17 March 2019 15: 28
      And what will the A-50 do with them, ram something?
  22. Old26 Rank
    Old26
    +7
    17 March 2019 14: 29
    Quote: Ramazan
    But what about our nuclear submarines with nuclear weapons on duty off the coast of the Yankees?

    Strategists? And what for them to act there? Multipurpose - so long ago, and we and they removed the nuclear BG from surface ships and submarines into ground-based arsenals. Nuclear weapons are only on strategists ...

    Quote: Mimoxod
    That's when the Tu-95 will be in Venezuela and Cuba, then the Yankees really shake ...

    Yes, stop indulging yourself with the thought that they shake from fear every time they arrive. Yes, some newspaper might print an article with the headline "Russian bears (or Russian barbarians) are clustered at our borders. Maybe even American housewives will start shaking at this news and calling their congressman. But otherwise, all this is routine. We fly at their borders, studying the theater of military action, on which they may have to act, they do the same in Europe and Asia, studying their theater of operations ...

    Quote: Victor_B
    Just ride on the nerves.

    And it was our media that succeeded in pumping hysteria

    Quote: Hexagon
    Comrade experts, that is the question that has arisen from me. NATO rats, in which case, will hit large cities, which in principle they do not even hide. We have a kind of otvetka, and then on the military bases. Or will the nuclear iron go through the capitals too?
    Will it be adequate to declare that, in the event of a conflict with the use of nuclear weapons, the capitals / large cities of the countries located in their territory on nuclear weapons of America will also be sprayed? I'm talking about European hangers-on.

    Look on the net somewhere there was material when one comrade tried to calculate how many charges are needed for each country so that it ceases to exist as a state. There, among the targets, industrial and railway junctions, millionaire cities and large cities, power plants and, of course, military installations ... I answered your question, And there was no need to announce to someone that their city or node would become a target. People, in principle, all perfectly understand that if you live in the ranks with an air base, then a gift will fly to you ...

    Quote: Е2 - Е4
    Apparently they forgot what happened to Donald Cook. Well, what can we repeat ...

    It's when the electronic warfare system, which was not on this plane, "put out" Donald Cook. Also, let us know that after that, he never went to the Black Sea. And then without such a hurray-patriotic mess it becomes somehow uninteresting. Even the author of that note disavowed that message, but the uryakalki still won't calm down ...
    1. Hexagon Rank
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      17 March 2019 17: 14
      Well, actually my question was not that. It is clear that in order to burn down the same Poland, dofiga warheads will be required.
      The question was whether fear as a deterrent would be more effective if it were announced that the answer would arrive in the cities. It’s clear that it’s not enough for everyone, but it will make you nervous and maybe think about it.
  23. Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock
    +1
    17 March 2019 15: 12
    Quote: private person
    But after all, someone should give the command to the nuclear submarines, and they will most likely ask for confirmation to this team and this is all the time. Of course, the answer will be decent, and no one can predict the outcome.

    More problems arise here
    1) To clarify and make decisions whether this is an attack or these are false goals, in general, or a failure of the early warning system at the highest echelons of state and military power.
    If, as a result of some events, an attack arose "suddenly", without appropriate preparation by the leadership of the aggressor country and their armed forces, without a gradual transition through intermediate levels of combat readiness, immediately from "PERMANENT" to "FULL". bypassing - combat readiness - "INCREASED" combat readiness - "MILITARY DANGER" (or, accordingly, others according to the terminology adopted by THEM), decision-making can be difficult in a short time. Because if these degrees of combat readiness are introduced gradually, then it is practically impossible to hide the preparation for war.
    2) The lower the link, the more simple it is to resolve these issues. Obtaining duplicate signals from ASUV systems and special warning systems from at least two superior command and control units will be a command to carry out certain actions by the appropriate command and control personnel.
    3) That is, there are more problems in the higher echelons of leadership to identify a clear threat and make decisions on the use of strategic nuclear forces.
    4) Naturally, the control and communication system will be exposed to external influences (on June 22, 1941, the communication system was sufficiently violated by the DRG). Management and notification teams go through several channels, so that the likelihood of external influences does not lead to the complete destruction of the warning system. The receipt of one of the channels from two superior controllers of the corresponding signals will be the basis for the production of actions. In addition, for strategic nuclear weapons of types of weapons of the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy on alert, automatic launch of strategic missiles is provided if duty shifts do not have the physical ability to do this or are not able to do it psychologically.
  24. Horse, people and soul Rank
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    17 March 2019 20: 34
    ... as noted in the Ministry of Defense, did not approach the Russian borders closer than 150 km.


    In Vietnam, bicycles are still made from aluminum of downed planes in Vietnam.

    winked
  25. NF68 Rank
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    17 March 2019 23: 09
    The US State Department will say that B-52 grandmother flew on vacation.
  26. Mentat Rank
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    17 March 2019 23: 58
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Mimoxod
    That's when the Tu-95 will be in Venezuela and Cuba, then the Yankees really shake ...

    Yes, stop indulging yourself with the thought that they shake from fear every time they arrive. Yes, some newspaper might print an article with the headline "Russian bears (or Russian barbarians) are clustered at our borders. Maybe even American housewives will start shaking at this news and calling their congressman. But otherwise, all this is routine. We fly at their borders, studying the theater of military action, on which they may have to act, they do the same in Europe and Asia, studying their theater of operations ...

    You probably know the history of the nuclear arms race. Judging by your statements, the truth is somewhat different (you either worked in the military-industrial complex, you still work, apparently you haven’t decided yet) - by heart. But you pretend that you don’t know and don’t understand.

    Quote: Victor_B
    Just ride on the nerves.

    And it was precisely our media that succeeded in this, escalating hysteria.

    Can you give examples of “hysteria” in our media?
  27. sannyomd Rank
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    18 March 2019 01: 24
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Yes, here they often report in general terms about the news. The original sources say that it was from there that they came.

    But the "experts" are crucified at full throat and will tell such a story that you already think - is it really only the Russians in the world that are smart, and the rest are dumber than baobabs? No, it's normal that patriotism should be, but the people, let's not forget that the military people, the people are not very stupid and that every weapon has both advantages and disadvantages, everyone, from all sides. So let it be better to write really how it is there is nothing, just to fill in the fields, and get a fee.
  28. Old26 Rank
    Old26
    +2
    18 March 2019 02: 37
    Quote: Mentat
    You probably know the history of the nuclear arms race. Judging by your statements, the truth is somewhat different (you either worked in the military-industrial complex, you still work, apparently you haven’t decided yet) - by heart. But you pretend that you don’t know and don’t understand.

    I have not written anywhere that I am working now. Already 4 years, as retired. And from the mid-70s to about the mid-90s, yes, I did. I know the history of the arms race quite well. By heart? The general outline - yes, the details - there is no need to load your brain with information that is not required every day. As they say - "a dull pencil is better than a sharp memory", or "be able to memorize, but do not be lazy to write down"
    What and what I don’t understand or pretend I don’t know, can you clarify? The fact that our media write nonsense about universal fear when ours fly next to them? Or what exactly?
    About cruise missiles "Caliber" I answered the person who asked the question and it is not my fault that he had an answer in advance that was not true. But even here it can be understood. Well, a person wants to believe that we have all the very best ...
  29. Mentat Rank
    Mentat
    +1
    18 March 2019 12: 10
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Mentat
    You probably know the history of the nuclear arms race. Judging by your statements, the truth is somewhat different (you either worked in the military-industrial complex, you still work, apparently you haven’t decided yet) - by heart. But you pretend that you don’t know and don’t understand.

    I haven’t written anywhere that I’m working now. For 4 years, as in retirement.

    You wrote "Releaserd product ”in the present tense, however, this can be attributed to Russia as a whole.

    I know the history of the arms race quite well. By heart? The general outline - yes, the details - there is no need to load your brain with information that is not required every day. As they say - "a dull pencil is better than a sharp memory", or "be able to memorize, but do not be lazy to write down"
    What and what I don’t understand or pretend I don’t know, can you clarify?

    Just one point: we did not start it. We did not create plans for the total destruction of another country “ahead of schedule”. Our country has responded to these events.
    Therefore, what is happening today is not in essence a routine, but a continuation of a forced response. This is not a reason for any joys, we are doing what we have to, in order to ensure the survival of Mankind in fact. Because the next plans for a “disarming strike” with cruise missiles were already written in recent history, and today's events are “a very serious, very disturbing process ... pushing the arms race, creating a new round, and you keep silent about this [to foreign journalists]” ( Putin V.V., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0F3J0gh9g)

    The fact that our media write nonsense about universal fear when ours fly next to them?

    You do exactly what you blame your opponents.
    Can you give examples of "delirium about universal fear" and "raise a wave of hysteria" in the Russian media?
    After all, you can’t. Why then write this? This is a lie.
  30. Old26 Rank
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    0
    19 March 2019 13: 00
    Quote: Mentat
    You wrote “we release the product” in the present tense, however, this can be attributed to Russia as a whole.

    You yourself answered the question asked to me, and you answered absolutely correctly. I am a citizen of Russia, I live here and of course, how can we all say "we are making a product" in the present tense, even without working in the industry.

    Quote: Mentat
    Just one point: we did not start it. We did not create plans for the total destruction of another country “ahead of schedule”. Our country has responded to these events.
    Therefore, what is happening today is not in essence a routine, but a continuation of a forced response. This is not a reason for any joys, we are doing what we have to, in order to ensure the survival of Mankind in fact. Because the next plans for a “disarming strike” with cruise missiles were already written in recent history, and today's events are “a very serious, very disturbing process ... pushing the arms race, creating a new round, and you keep silent about this [to foreign journalists]” ( Putin V.V., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0F3J0gh9g)

    You, comrade, seem to either not understand or confuse. Our media, and the Internet, after all, refers specifically to the media now and is engaged in whipping up fear (hysteria) where there is none at all. Routine is the action of the Air Force / Aerospace Forces of countries like the United States and Russia. The Americans, like ours, have all the exercises scheduled for years ahead. Some of these exercises take place either annually or every few years. The arrival of the American B-52 is precisely the participation in such exercises. Yes, the Americans are studying this theater of operations, just as we are studying their theater of operations when our strategists fly along the American coast. Moreover, I will not reveal any secret if I say that any flight of bomber and reconnaissance aircraft is at the same time reconnaissance, clarifying information about where and what the enemy has. And it is precisely such flights that are routine. Of course, you have the right to call this a "continuation of the forced response." And what if it repeats itself from year to year from day to day - isn't it a routine?
    I will not even quote what a routine is. You perfectly understand that this is daily following certain patterns, skills. What has become everyday life.
    We get up at 6.00 and by 9.00 we come to work. Every day, from month to month. This is the routine. As for the actions of the military of any country, the same thing.
    To be honest, I do not see anything supernatural in this arrival. To speak of plans for a "disarming attack by cruise missiles" from a dozen aircraft is, to be honest, not serious, especially when it comes to relations between countries such as the United States and Russia. Both we and our adversary understand how this "disarming" strike will end. But to create a certain mood in society - this is what the speeches of the heads of state are necessary for. When from day to day the same topic will be said from TV screens, from radio receivers, from newspaper strips - yes, most of the population will simply "take their word for it"

    Which of the things that we are now discussing were not done 20-30 or 40 years ago? Any plans made? Sure. This is what the General Staff is for. Did the strategists fly "to visit" their "enemy neighbors"? Yes, regularly. What is the current process, according to the president, "very serious and very alarming"?
    Here is the fact that in this case we became the initiator in a certain sense of the arms race - yes, this is a really alarming and serious sign. And in this case, this is actually so. Not in all cases, but we became the initiator of such a race.
    Moreover, if in relation to the same "Vanguard" or "Zircon" we acted "in response" to the work of the other side, then in certain cases - this is our initiative. For it is not a "nuclear submarine drone" with an intercontinental range and megaton charges, nor a "missile with a" nuclear power plant "and a nuclear charge that can fly indefinitely, nor a combat laser system in service, nor hypersonic aeroballistic missiles in our enemy THERE IS NO. But they will appear. And we will become the initiator in this round.

    And the talk about the arrival of even a dozen strategic bombers is just another plan for a "disarming strike" by cruise missiles "- these are talks of politicians. And it would be "this is a very serious, very alarming process" if in reality such means, and even with hypersonic missiles, were transferred not for exercises, but on an ongoing basis - this would be a really "serious and alarming process." And with subsonic cruise missiles and in the amount of a dozen aircraft - this is no longer worth calling a "disarming strike." As an event from which you can derive "political benefit" - it is indisputable and it would be foolish to think that the president will not benefit from it

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    You do exactly what you blame your opponents.
    Can you give examples of "delirium about universal fear" and "raise a wave of hysteria" in the Russian media?
    After all, you can’t. Why then write this? This is a lie.

    And what happens is not so? Our media, and especially the Internet only replete with statements that the Americans are terrified by the new Russian submarine? is it because the TU-160 pair ended up in the Gulf of Mexico during a visit to Caracas? Or not? There are no such statements?
    Well, as for our media - read the news feeds with an open mind. Even on the VO in this topic, the article is called "The United States is hiding the purpose of transferring several B-52Ps to Britain. Although our media announced the exercises in which these bombers will take part. But such balanced statements are drowning in the mass of hysterical-spirological versions that that this is almost the threshold of World War III. Or is it not? It is precisely the wave of hysteria that rises, which becomes the basis of the “delusion about universal fear.” But when the “electorate” is in fear, then it is very easy for them to manage, while any decisions are implemented ...
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    19 March 2019 20: 10
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    Just one point: we did not start it. We did not create plans for the total destruction of another country “ahead of schedule”. Our country has responded to these events.
    Therefore, what is happening today is not in essence a routine, but a continuation of a forced response. This is not a reason for any joys, we are doing what we have to, in order to ensure the survival of Mankind in fact. Because the next plans for a “disarming strike” with cruise missiles were already written in recent history, and today's events are “a very serious, very disturbing process ... pushing the arms race, creating a new round, and you keep silent about this [to foreign journalists]” ( Putin V.V., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD0F3J0gh9g)

    You, comrade, seem or do not understand or confuse. Our media, and the Internet, after all, refers specifically to the media

    No, "comrade", the Internet does not belong to the media. Although large sites should be registered as mass media, this is just a measure to force them to adhere to legislation in the field of dissemination of information. However, you understand very well that your phrase is an example of juggling with the aim of distorting information, even if you leave out the direct lie “The Internet is the media”.

    When they say "Russian media write about ..." they mean, first of all, the central press organs, and not websites that survive just because they drive "hot news", gossip and speculation.
    You are trying to put an equal sign between them - this is another lie.

    now it is engaged in the fact that it instills fear (hysteria) where it is not there at all.

    Nobody in Russia is engaged in this, except for those yellow garbage sites. You can give examples of the "escalation of fear" in the Russian press, bring. Unproven nonsense is not necessary.

    Routine is the action of the Air Force / VKS of such countries as the United States and Russia.

    In terms of the repeatability of actions considered in isolation from the context, in an abstract vocabulary meaning is a routine. In fact, this is a response to action. You are here again practicing insinuating lies. They say that here is such and such, you think, US bombers flew to our borders, and ours fly to them! But this is not the case. Not ours fly to them, but we have been responding to US actions for many decades. Nuclear weapons appeared for the first time and were used as a deterrent by the United States. Is it necessary to point to this constantly today, when the situation has already really become routine, that does nothing good? - Not necessarily, but it is worth considering and remembering. Let's call a spade a spade.

    Talking about plans for a "disarming cruise missile strike" from a dozen aircraft - well, to be honest, it's not serious

    And again that same insinuating lie.

    You, apparently, do not understand, but for some people to quickly read or analyze the text and draw conclusions does not seem to be an extremely difficult task. Or isolate logical inconsistencies from your text.

    As an example, your statement that you worked in the military-industrial complex (although maybe you worked as a watchman) does not fit with your deliberately limited outlook. Examples: “The Internet is the media,” “what is the alarming process, according to the president?” - i.e. Do not want to understand and search for information. Elite technical education implies a slightly different way of thinking. Checking, double-checking information, independent search, clarification of the essence, the search for cross-references for checking facts and clarification is eaten into the subcortex. This discrepancy indicates that you either did not work in a serious position in the military-industrial complex, or are engaged in intentional ideological influence.

    This is me because it is useless for me to write your sheets in order to confuse or convince the truth of false information, it is not difficult to see inconsistencies in your messages. However, presumably, they are designed for readers who, apparently, should be impressed by your writings.

    We will return now that you understand the situation and save us time, to the missile disarmament strike and your next lie.

    No, these plans were not talking about the "top ten aircraft." Moreover, this information does not require at least some in-depth search, reference to the official open databases of US documents in English, at least. This is publicly available information, which is within the horizons of any average educated person. And if you worked in the military-industrial complex, you are definitely aware of this concept. However, demonstrate alleged misunderstanding and write nonsense.

    MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION, VLADIMIR PUTIN, TO THE FEDERAL ASSEMBLY, 2013:
    “We are closely following the development of the so-called concept of a disarming instant global strike, there is such a concept, and is actively developing in some countries. The implementation of all these plans can have extremely negative consequences for regional and global stability ”(http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_155646/)

    "... conventional warheads would count against the limit of 1550 warheads ... This warhead ceiling would accommodate any plans the United States might develop during the life of this Treaty to deploy conventional warheads on ballistic missiles" (http://www.state.gov/ t / vci / rls / 139913.htm)
    Ballistic missiles are equipped with non-nuclear warheads within 1550 pieces. In addition to cruise missiles.


    What of what we are discussing was not done 20-30 or 40 years ago? Are you making plans? Of course. For this, there is a general staff.

    Indeed, why not the General Staff develop, for example, the wonderful plans of “Totality” and “Dropshot”, right? Or the lesser-known document JIC 329/1 “Strategic Vulnerability of the USSR for Limited Air Strike,” describing the dumping of 30-50 atomic bombs on the USSR.

    Here is the fact that in this case we became the initiator in a certain sense of the arms race

    Your attempts to transfer responsibility from a sick mind to a healthy one can cause only surprise at their frank weakness and bewilderment by the denial of well-known facts.

    Yes, this is a really alarming and serious sign. And in this case, this is actually so. Not in all cases, but we initiated such a race.

    You can write “we” in “this case”, if you live in the USA, perhaps it is.
    See, enlighten:


    And you, the honored pensioner of the military-industrial complex, like, do not know? To whom are you here, frankly, rubbing?

    Shkolota, “passionate youth with a limited knowledge horizon” or to whom, who is this target audience of your passages?
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      19 March 2019 20: 30
      Even on VO in this topic, the article is called "The United States is hiding the purpose of transferring several B-52Ps to Britain." Although our media announced the exercises in which these bombers will take part. But such balanced statements are drowning in the mass of hysterical-cosnspirological versions that this is almost the threshold of the third world war. Or is it not so ??? It is precisely the wave of hysteria that rises, which becomes the basis of the "delusion about universal fear." But when the "electorate" is in fear - then it is very easy for them to manage, while any decisions are implemented ...

      And again, your deep misunderstanding of the spirit of the Russian people is perplexing. By themselves, others are not judged. There is no Russian people, the Russian "electorate" and there will be no fear.

      “According to the monitoring portal PlaneRadar, this happened when the US Air Force aircraft performed maneuvers near the Russian borders in the Baltic.
      "Strategic bomber Boeing B-52H Stratofortress of the US Air Force, tail number 61-0009, imitation of the bombing of the Baltic Fleet base," the resource says on Twitter. (https://rg.ru/2019/03/16/v-minoborony-rasskazali-ob-atake-bombardirovshchika-ssha-na-baltflot.html)

      Tell us more about the routine and about the Russian bombers who make evolutions similar to the attack of the American fleet.

      “A few days earlier, the Commander-in-Chief of the Joint Armed Forces of NATO in Europe, Curtis Scaparotti, said that the United States decided to deploy fifth-generation fighter-bombers capable of carrying nuclear warheads in Europe on an ongoing basis.

      “The US Air Force is currently on a rotational basis providing me with fifth-generation aircraft, bombers, and so on, which we need to deploy to deter, as well as to ensure our combat readiness,” the military said (https: //www.gazeta .ru / army / 2019/03/17 / 12247484.shtml)

      Continue about the routine, you already want to yawn from such a routine, Russian bombers have long been in Mexico and Cuba, right?