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On the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, blood is shed again

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13 March A border conflict occurred in the Batken region of Kyrgyzstan due to the construction of the Kok-Tash-Ak-Sai-Tamdyk road. The Tajiks decided to prevent construction in the disputed territory. Their protest tried to stop the Kyrgyz border guards. Then residents of the nearest Kyrgyz village Ak-Sai got involved in the conflict. The opposing sides threw stones at each other. In the end, it came to shooting.




The road is like an apple of discord

Kyrgyz border guards accused their Tajik counterparts of shooting. Allegedly, they shot in the air, but managed to injure a villager from Ak-Sai. The situation is heated to the limit. The Kyrgyz, led by the deputy chairman of the Ak-Sai village council (ayil okmotu) Erkin Zhalchiyev, in response took two Tajik minibuses (61 people) passengers as hostages and took them to the location of their border unit.

Residents of the neighboring Tajik village of Khojai Alo joined the conflict. Here already went hunting guns. According to the Nezavisimaya Gazeta, a village school teacher, Tajik Hakim Huseynov, was killed with a gun. Four more people were injured. During the conflict, a warehouse building, a mill, a car and a trailer to the truck were burned down.

The voltage at the boundary is maintained. Approximately one hundred Tajiks and Kyrgyz block the road from both sides. People do not disagree, although representatives of the local Tajik and Kyrgyz authorities have already entered into negotiations. The situation was taken under the control of the security forces and localized the conflict.

Apparently, he should not blow up the Kyrgyz-Tajik relations. This is evidenced by the departure of the President of Kyrgyzstan Sooronbay Jeenbekov on a European tour. Before that, the Kyrgyz leader had a telephone conversation with his Tajik counterpart, Emomali Rahmon. We agreed to create a "joint commission for an objective investigation and to prevent similar situations in the future."

Nevertheless, despite the bloody border incident, Zheenbekov flew on an official visit to five European countries on Thursday — Germany, Switzerland, France, Hungary and Azerbaijan. The president did not cancel the visits so important for Kyrgyzstan.

Many of them in Bishkek expect serious progress in relations with the West. According to Zheenbekov himself, his current tour will help strengthen mutually beneficial cooperation with European countries in the trade, economic, cultural and humanitarian spheres. First of all, we are talking about using the opportunities of such Kyrgyz industries as processing, light industry, food industry, energy and tourism.

The expected benefits of a European tour exceeded the importance of the conflict on the Kyrgyz-Tajik border. This can be understood. During the post-Soviet years, border incidents in the Batken region have become routine. According to experts, they occur "on average once a quarter." True, bloody clashes are less common.



With stones and mortars against each other

The reason for the conflict may be very different. In one case, the wall on the wall came together and the people started to see the rockfall, Ak-Sai and Khodja Alo, who were already familiar to us, because the Tajiks did not let the Kyrgyz grader through their territory, aimed at clearing the country roads.

In the other, the Tajiks blocked the passage to the cemetery for the residents of the village of Kok-Tash. The Kyrgyz did not remain in debt and cut off the water in the canal going to the territory of Tajikistan. Abundant rockfall injured seven Kyrgyz citizens. Even the head of the Kok-Tash village council, Razia Osorov, went to the hospital.

Another household reason for conflict. A resident of the Kyrgyz village of Uch-Dobo decided to put a fence around her plot. The Tajiks were outraged because the state border was not agreed on this territory of the village, and they went to the Kirghiz with stones. About 50 people took part in the incident. Fortunately, he ended up bloodless.

But the conflict over the Kok-Tash-Ak-Sai-Tamdyk road has already led to blood. At the very beginning of construction, Tajik border guards attempted to stop road works. The report of the Kyrgyz Border Service described it (I quote from the KNEWS publication) as follows: “During the verbal scuffle, the Major of the Border Guards of the National Security Committee of the Republic of Tajikistan, loading his gun, put it to the temple of one of the border guards of the Kyrgyz Republic. The commander of the special forces unit of the Border Security Service of the Kyrgyz Republic, Senior Lieutenant Izat Buylashev, demanded that the Tajik border guard stop such actions, in response, the major of the MF of Tajikistan’s National Security Command fired from Builashev in the abdominal area. After the shooting occurred, during which the Tajik side used a mortar. The shootout and mortar fire lasted about 45 minutes. ” In this battle, five soldiers were injured.

In addition to border guards, drug traffickers and smugglers shoot in the disputed area of ​​the Kyrgyz-Tajik border. The fact is that one of the most important Afghan drug trafficking routes passes through the Batken region. Here, Russian and Kazakh fuels and lubricants and other goods demanded on local markets are smuggled across the border in the Afghan and Tajik directions.

So the place is brisk, and most importantly - uncontrolled. Since Soviet times, local villages have divided exclaves between neighboring republics. Now it is an independent state with a strip of ethnic settlements. Their central governments, passionate about the struggle for money, influence, and power, do not particularly care about solving the problems of the border population.

Suffice it to say that for all the post-Soviet times, Dushanbe and Bishkek have not carried out the demarcation and delimitation of the border. Still not described and considered controversial 472 of 976 kilometers of the joint border. Last February at the bilateral talks in Dushanbe, the presidents of Tajikistan Emomali Rakhmon and Kyrgyzstan Sooronbay Jeenbekov promised to speed up the solution of this problem.

However, the promises of the two leaders turned out to be empty words. Instead of restoring administrative order in the border enclaves and exclaves of the Sogd oblast of Tajikistan and the Batken oblast of Kyrgyzstan, criminal, radical religious and even terrorist groups feel quite comfortable here. As expert Alexander Knyazev noted in the Nezavisimaya Gazeta, these groups have already grown together with local law enforcement agencies.

For the time being, they “show little of themselves, but their participation in border conflicts is, so far, indirectly, traced constantly,” said Knyazev. Therefore, the authorities of the two republics are now finding it increasingly difficult to distance themselves from solving the border problem. Some of its exacerbations are attributed to the upcoming Russian president Vladimir Putin’s visit to Kyrgyzstan in late March.

According to Andrei Grozin, head of the department of Central Asia and Kazakhstan at the Institute of CIS countries, published in the Vzglyad newspaper, there are strong expectations in Bishkek that Putin will come and "judge everyone." One could agree with that. However, Putin will not divide the border between the two countries.

Bishkek and Dushanbe must pass this road themselves. The bloody conflict surrounding the road under construction, according to the former prime minister of Kyrgyzstan, Felix Kulov, was the result of flaws in the Kyrgyz government agencies that did not "conduct awareness-raising work with the public and did not use the methods of public diplomacy." No matter what they say, the new road benefits all parties to the conflict. In this they need to be convinced.

Meanwhile, the heads of the foreign ministries of Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan discussed the conflict in Ak-Say and declared “the need for stress relief”. The ministers promised "to strengthen the good-neighborly relations of two fraternal peoples." The use of fairly shabby rhetoric in a joint statement by diplomats does not promise quick changes in the Kyrgyz-Tajik frontier.
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  1. YOUR
    YOUR 16 March 2019 05: 30
    +6
    How did it happen that less than 30 years passed and suddenly those who used to live in peace and harmony became enemies?
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 16 March 2019 07: 37
      +8
      Quote: YOUR
      How did it happen that less than 30 years passed and suddenly those who used to live in peace and harmony became enemies?

      With dill, things are no better. Alas request
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 16 March 2019 10: 57
      -5
      Yes, you are not ours. However, the mishandled Cossack. stop
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 16 March 2019 13: 09
        0
        Put me a couple of dozen minuses and calm down.
    3. marshes
      marshes 16 March 2019 16: 33
      +3
      Even before that, the Kyrgyz were bickering with the Tajiks, and there is no term for 30 years. Only direct clashes did not come to this.
    4. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 16 March 2019 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: YOUR
      How did it happen that less than 30 years passed and suddenly those who used to live in peace and harmony became enemies?

      but how do you think that the president of Russia is not concerned about the fate of ordinary people? Why, when something popular began to belong to the oligarchs? But for the same reason. We sold ourselves for chewing gum jeans and individual comfort, we lost national unity. I think we lost a lot. And Ukrainians hope in Europe with America, I also think they are losing.
    5. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 March 2019 21: 40
      -1
      Quote: YOUR
      How did it happen that less than 30 years passed and suddenly those who used to live in peace and harmony became enemies?

      How, how, and so. There was one country, one law, one order, one life. "Bytovuha" also happened, not on nat. same basis? repeat And now for the saxaul, for the aryk, for the traffic (and also the drug) the slaughter will continue while the sun is shining.
      The discrepancy between ethnic and state borders, which originated in the national-state demarcation of 1924-1925, led to the fact that large communities of other titular ethnic groups of the region live in all the republics of Central Asia. So, in Uzbekistan, according to data at the beginning of 1999, there were 1,2 million Tajiks, 967 thousand Kazakhs, 216 thousand Kyrgyz and 142 thousand Turkmen, in Turkmenistan (1995) - 407,1 thousand, in Kyrgyzstan (1999) - 665 thousand, and in Tajikistan (2000) - 937 thousand Uzbeks. With the exception of Uzbekistan, where the Tajiks are the largest ethnic community, the largest diaspora in the rest of the Central Asian republics is Uzbeks. The presence of large ethnic communities living on the border with their "titular" state is today a powerful conflict-generating factor.


      Source: https://ia-centr.ru/publications/691/
      © IAC Moscow State University
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 March 2019 18: 35
        0
        Dig deeper and understand who the Tajiks, Kyrgyz and Uzbeks are.
    6. NF68
      NF68 17 March 2019 17: 16
      +1
      Quote: YOUR
      How did it happen that less than 30 years passed and suddenly those who used to live in peace and harmony became enemies?


      They lived in "harmony" while they were firmly convinced that they would fly from distant Moscow in exchange for internecine strife. As soon as this danger disappeared, the imaginary agreement with her disappeared.
  2. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 16 March 2019 05: 40
    +3
    So don’t you get to anyone! This term is not new in Central Asia and the Caucasus. Especially where there are few suitable places to live. The same thing is happening here in Chechnya and Ingushetia.
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 16 March 2019 05: 40
    +1
    Uh, shaitanama ...
  4. Humpty
    Humpty 16 March 2019 06: 16
    +5
    I know exactly who is guilty, even categorically. Guilty are the teachers and parents of the Swara. It seems to be trite, but that's the trick. Tajiks live in Avg. Az since ancient times. But they managed to know almost nothing important about the territory. Maps were drawn by Russians, Swedes and Germans. They themselves had little understanding of where their geographic edges are. The same is true with Kyrgyz geography. They live at least 250 years in this territory, but still do not know anything about their geography. The cards were drawn by Russians, the same Swede, Germans and Italians. Until now, not a single ethnic and titular-national Kyrgyz knows where Kyrgyzstan is, and there is direct evidence of this. On Kyrgyz banknotes draw objects that are not within the republic. In particular, China was depicted on an old banknote of 100 som denomination, now this same landmark of China has migrated to the 2000th banknote.
    Neither the Kyrgyz nor the Tajiks are aware that one of the most interesting and beautiful places on Earth is located directly up in the mountains from the Tajik enclave of Vorukh on the territory of Kyrgyzstan.
    1. 501Legion
      501Legion 16 March 2019 06: 59
      +3

      here's a bill for you. do you even know what is shown on it? if not then I will tell you.
      Face: On the left side of the banknote there is a portrait of Toktogul Satylganov, an outstanding Kyrgyz akyn-democrat, thinker, and the inscription "TOKTOGUL SATYLGANOV 1864-1933
      Turnover: In the center there is an image of the majestic mountain "Khan-Tengri", symbolizing the freedom and independence of the Kyrgyz Republic
      for you a note.
      Khan Tengri is a pyramidal peak on the Tien Shan on the Tengri-Tag ridge on the border of Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China.

      so you don’t have to chat about what you don’t know and give out your wish for reality and mislead those who do not understand this issue.
      And this is an old bill but the "new" Toktogul hydroelectric station is depicted.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 16 March 2019 07: 17
        +2
        About you The topic was before this "comment" of the best opinion.
        I hope this is not for long. Did you see Khan yourself? Where did the image of its south wall come from? But you probably really are not in the know, but with an opinion. I answer, the photo from which the picture was taken, the place of shooting under the southwestern ridge of the western peak of Pogrebetskoy peak. That is, in China. View of a part of the Inylchek glacier south belonging to China. The southern wall of Khan, this is China! Even Sviridenko’s rib is China.
        China, Karl! It has long been China, a long time ago surrendered quietly.
        1. 501Legion
          501Legion 16 March 2019 07: 32
          +2
          and what does the photo have to do with which side, at least the difference doesn’t change the peak located on the border between the countries. for the Kyrgyz, the symbol is all the more so on a 2000 bill there is not only a peak but also a golden eagle and a symbol denoting the female deity of the Turkic peoples Umai-ene.

          Formally, Kan-Too peak (Khan-Tengri) becomes the top of three states and personifies the state of today's world. But in fact, the Chinese border is laid, as before, 12 km east of the watershed, as is customary throughout the world, which is of fundamental importance in this arid region. As on Soviet maps, the border passes from Kazakhstan Narynkol to the south through the peaks of the Marble Wall, 100 years of the Russian Geographical Society, Tent Zapadny (Tent Vostochny went to China) and further along the Meridian ridge through the peaks of Sorge, Druzhba, Nagela, then turns west along the ridge Kokshaal-Too through the peaks of the Military Topographers, Victory, Vazha Pshavela, Nehru and further along the ridge to the southwest. And the water reserves accumulated in huge glaciers, as in previous centuries, continue to flow from the Tien Shan to the west of the watershed - to the basin of the Kyrgyz Naryn and Syr Darya and to the east - to the basin of Chinese Tarim, irrigating the valleys of Kyrgyzstan and the rest of Central Asia, respectively as well as the densely populated lands of Chinese Xinjiang.

          And the Tengri-Tag ridge remained the border between Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. On the Kazakh side, the North Inylchek glacier flows around it, and on the Kyrgyz side, the South Enylchek glacier. On these glaciers there are international alpine camps deployed by Kazakh and Kyrgyz travel agencies for lovers of mountain climbing, including Khan Tengri.
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 16 March 2019 07: 41
            0
            Quote: 501Legion
            and what does the photo have to do with it

            Artem, look at the cards themselves, the one whom you quoted them did not look in detail. The Chinese are using this territory somewhat more intensively than is usually assumed. The border of China and Kazakhstan goes along the Tengri Tag ridge, the rest (most) of it is in Kyrgyzstan. Kyrgyzstan does not border Kazakhstan on this ridge. Besides only the navel of the Khan peak.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 16 March 2019 07: 36
        0
        Quote: 501Legion
        peak on the Tien Shan on the Tengri-Tag ridge on the border of Kyrgyzstan, Kazakhstan, and the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China.

        I have a lesson about where the Tengri-tag, and what exactly is called historically, and not within the short and powerful ridge taught one well-educated Uyghur nationalist. Something we argued over the little things. He stopped arguing and sang a song about Tengri Tag well Uigur, said that his grandfather sang it. Tengri tag in the historical sense is the whole group of ridges and gorges in the high part of the Tien Shan.
        1. 501Legion
          501Legion 16 March 2019 07: 50
          +8
          with regards to Central Asia, here they generally have to say thanks to the USSR that they even drew the borders. Nomads who did not have borders but only habitats. in fact, the tribe is with common cultural ethnic roots. But what oh mom have become nationalists now. despite the fact that 1 \ 5 countries work \ lives in Russia
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 16 March 2019 11: 04
            +1
            Quote: 501Legion
            with regards to Central Asia, here they generally have to say thanks to the USSR that they even drew the borders.

            In fact, they were not only drawn to nomads, but for themselves in the first place. Differentiated with China, Persia and Proto-Uzbek khanates. Those. dealt with real states, and not with gangs of a nomadic population.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 March 2019 18: 43
            0
            I agree with Artyom’s last words, and who were the nomads didn’t understand either the Tajiks or the Kyrgyz, or maybe the Uzbeks, and what difference does it make, they are nomads anyway, but they fought all the time.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 17 March 2019 20: 16
              +2
              Quote: tihonmarine
              and who were the nomads, didn’t they understand whether they were Tajiks, or Kyrgyz, or maybe Uzbeks, and what's the difference, anyway, nomads,

              And the nomads are the Kyrgyz and Kazakhs, Tajiks and Uzbeks are not nomads from the word at all. In general, reading is useful. wink
    2. stalki
      stalki 16 March 2019 08: 52
      -1
      Guilty are the teachers and parents of the Swara. It seems to be trite, but that's the trick. Tajiks live in Avg. Az since ancient times. But they managed to know almost nothing important about the territory.
      No need to blame ordinary people. First of all, the leaders, the leaders of the countries are to blame. They bear responsibility, moreover, in the legislative order. So don’t drag the donkey by the ears.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 16 March 2019 11: 11
        +3
        Quote: stalki
        First of all, the leaders, the leaders of the countries are to blame.

        Leaders are a special case of the same trouble. Guilty of their teacher. I did not learn geography. Guilty parents, brought up a person with an extremely narrow horizons.
      2. core
        core 16 March 2019 13: 59
        -1
        I don’t like your name, for example, “I’ll break your head with a brick, otherwise I’m not to blame, you understand such leaders.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 March 2019 18: 44
        +1
        Yes, you do not blame the leaders and leaders. Dig deeper.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 17 March 2019 20: 17
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Dig deeper.

          Read more ...
    3. asar
      asar 16 March 2019 18: 31
      0
      The Khoturtau massif, if through the Dzhiptyk pass, to the Shchurovsky glacier, to the Raygorodsky icefall from Vorukh, Karakul-Katta lake! Crazy beauty places!
    4. Karenas
      Karenas 17 March 2019 14: 51
      +2
      Humpty, somehow I can’t believe that Tajiks didn’t have maps in antiquity ... All the famous Persian thinkers and poets seem to be Tajiks ... Just historically, Tajiks were unlucky with aggressive neighbors ...
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 18 March 2019 16: 23
        0
        Quote: Karenas
        somehow I can’t believe that the Tajiks did not have maps in ancient times ...

        For example, the source of the Amu Darya was identified in the 20th century. You can list for a long time what Tajiks did not know about the territory. This was commonplace even among the more advanced Asian peoples. The Europeans were the first to make any decent map of Tibet, and this is not even the British. Say there were no systematized data, some very vast places, for example, the upper reaches of the Muksu valley, were not seen by the Tajiks at all before the revolution. Although the territory of Tajikistan is very small.
  5. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 16 March 2019 06: 20
    +4
    In this situation, the main thing for us is that our leadership does not send our armed forces to solve their problems and conflicts. Let them figure it out ourselves and we will only help you with a kind word. Enough. There will be no more good from them. The life of a citizen of the Russian Federation is a priority over everything.
  6. Ali Kokand
    Ali Kokand 16 March 2019 06: 34
    -5
    The principle of divide and conquer, since Roman times, applied in Central Asia by the Bolsheviks masterfully. Borders are defined so that for a long time they will be an annoying factor, or even a source of conflict. Everyone understands this, but the decision is difficult. IMHO it seems to me that this can only be decided by uniting into one state. This is naturally impossible; over the past time, peoples have accumulated resentment and disagreement. Previously, there were no such conflicts from scratch.
    1. astronom1973n
      astronom1973n 16 March 2019 09: 14
      12
      Quote: Ali Kokand
      The principle of divide and conquer, since Roman times, applied in Central Asia by the Bolsheviks masterfully. Borders are defined so that for a long time they will be an annoying factor, or even a source of conflict.

      If it weren’t for the Bolsheviks, then you would all have jumped in Central Asia until the rope broke and lived in a feudal system today.
      1. novel66
        novel66 16 March 2019 10: 02
        +6
        Yes, no, under the British they would already be ... they would have lost the hell
        1. astronom1973n
          astronom1973n 16 March 2019 10: 22
          +4
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Yes, no, under the British they would already be ... they would have lost the hell

          Maybe under the Angles, but they wouldn’t get off the rope. wink
          1. novel66
            novel66 16 March 2019 10: 24
            +3
            and who would let them ?? laughing
    2. Humpty
      Humpty 16 March 2019 11: 51
      +2
      Quote: Ali Kokand
      The principle of divide and conquer, since Roman times, applied in Central Asia by the Bolsheviks masterfully. Borders are defined so that for a long time they will be an annoying factor, or even a source of conflict.

      I don’t know what you were bombed. With me, it’s clear that the facts are less pleasant than dreams and pink opinions. But in this part you seem wrong. The Bolsheviks made a territorial distinction from class thinking and elementary stupidity. Without malicious intent for the future. Someone had to add a percentage of the urban population with proletarians, Donbass as a special case. To areas with a predominantly nomadic population, cut into a map of cities with artisans and small factories.
  7. AK1972
    AK1972 16 March 2019 06: 39
    +2
    My colleague, a Tatar from Uzbekistan, said: "If you have a Tajik friend who has a knife, always carry an ax with you."
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 16 March 2019 07: 23
      +1
      my friend still wears a knife ... after his five Uzbeks were cut in the 1990s ...
  8. turcom
    turcom 16 March 2019 06: 57
    +2
    Quote: Humpty
    On Kyrgyz banknotes draw objects that are not within the republic. In particular, China was depicted on an old bill in denominations of 100 soms, now this same landmark of China has migrated to the 2000 bill.

    I looked at these bills on the Internet, I did not see the sights of China - "On the front side of the banknote there is a monument to the national hero Manas, on the back side the main element of the plot is a tree"
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 16 March 2019 07: 29
      -1
      Quote: turcom
      did not see the sights of China

      See above . He scribbled there. wink
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 16 March 2019 07: 06
    +1
    Ministers promised "to strengthen the good neighborly relations of the two fraternal peoples"
    .... Here of course ... if the ministers promised ... smile
  10. Lime
    Lime 16 March 2019 07: 12
    +3
    The warring parties threw stones at each other.

    But in the days of the USSR, they were quiet and calm .. That's what democracy brought the peoples to, because of some kind of road they are ready to break each other's throats ..
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 16 March 2019 18: 37
      0
      Quote: Limonka
      But in the days of the USSR, they were quiet and calm ..

      It seems to you that passions were seething, but did not break through for the time being ... For example, before the "Osh events", pharmacies in Frunze were "managed" mainly by Uzbeks, after the events, the "managers" changed abruptly. request
  11. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 16 March 2019 08: 39
    +1
    Sooner or later, the region will explode the main reason for the poverty and poverty of people and the lack of foresight of the authorities, and taking into account the activities of Islamic fundamentalists led by curators from across the ocean, this is another hotbed of tension near Russia
  12. Yurahip
    Yurahip 16 March 2019 10: 12
    0
    It is difficult to blame someone for this conflict, each side has its own TRUTH, and they will fight to the last.
    Today they retreated, tomorrow we’ll go on the upcoming and take it back. Like Karabakh. It’s the same as the conflict of neighbors on the staircase — one fenced off a place with a grid, let's say for the elevator for ourselves, the other didn’t like it, and the war went on to destroy, not to extinguish it to anyone!
    The solution is to resettle here and there, there should not be such small enclaves on the map. But alas, this is basically IMPOSSIBLE ...
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 16 March 2019 12: 00
      0
      Quote: Jurachip
      they will fight to the last.
      Today they retreated, tomorrow we’ll go on the upcoming and win back. Like Karabakh.

      Do not exaggerate. Here the matter is simpler. You can enter the huge gorge in Kyrgyzstan through the passes. Entrance is closed by the Tajik enclave. Some of the Tajiks did not build a house for themselves on their territory, the Kyrgyz cemetery ended up in the Tajik enclave, etc. For the good, everything is solved, there are no insurmountable contradictions.
  13. Sova
    Sova 16 March 2019 18: 18
    0
    Quote: astronom1973n
    In this situation, the main thing for us is that our leadership does not send our armed forces to solve their problems and conflicts. Let them figure it out ourselves and we will only help you with a kind word. Enough. There will be no more good from them. The life of a citizen of the Russian Federation is a priority over everything.

    Will not send for sure, the wrong situation.
  14. Tank hard
    Tank hard 16 March 2019 18: 24
    0
    This wateryaga is constant there, before, on the border with Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, they periodically played the game "move the border post". First, some under cover of night move the "border" a certain distance in their favor, then others in response ... Sometimes it came to collisions. This is a kind of national sport already ... request
  15. Karenas
    Karenas 16 March 2019 21: 48
    0
    Yes, nomadic horses from the Kirghiz were noted in Transcaucasia. I remember reading about the famous grave in Az-not the warlord Yakub from their habitat near Bishkek, as it were today (then I don’t remember what it was called), 600-800 years ago ...
  16. vindigo
    vindigo 17 March 2019 18: 09
    0
    It doesn't matter what happens there, as long as the Russian guys are not sent to separate them. These republics are "strong and independent", even if they kill each other in the bud. And if our traders have brains, then let them sell weapons to these countries. ...
  17. ccsr
    ccsr 17 March 2019 20: 48
    -1
    This case once again proves that only Russia can make them reconcile, and live in peace, as it was in the days of the USSR. Only now we don’t need it anymore - let them figure it out ourselves, and when they become unbearable, then we’ll see who they turn to.