Stalin as the creator of a new reality

The red emperor literally created the future before our very eyes. For ten years, from 1930 to 1940 a year, the Soviet Union went from agrarian Russia to a highly developed industrial power, with advanced science and technology, able to withstand the onslaught of the most advanced power of European civilization - the Third Reich, which was given control of most of Europe.


Stalin as the creator of a new reality


For ten years! During this period, Russia has gone from plows and bast shoes to tank T-34 and rocket artillery. From an illiterate and illiterate population to millions of scientists, engineers and technicians, mechanics and agronomists, teachers and doctors, skilled workers, pilots and tankmen, sailors and radio operators, geologists and builders. In ten years, Russia was completely rebuilt and recreated, thousands of new enterprises were built, agriculture from semi-subsistence became a large commodity, providing the country, cities and the army. In terms of industrial production, the Soviet Union came first in Europe, ahead of such advanced industrial powers as Germany, Great Britain and France, and second in the world.

I remind that The USSR sample 1920-s is a dead end. Finished country, doomed to new unrest and collapse, and external intervention, the division of Russia into spheres of influence and colonies by the leading world powers. According to all analytical calculations, it was coming to an end ahead of the USSR-Russia: either in chaos and the blood of a new unrest caused by an economic catastrophe, or after a military defeat.

The new economic policy (NEP) stabilized the situation in which Russia found itself after the destructive World War I, the Civil War and the intervention. Industrial production in 1920 was a measly 13,8% of the pre-war volumes. According to the State Planning Committee, in 1925-1926. the consolidated budget (state budget plus local budgets) was equal to 72,4% of the pre-war (5024 million rubles). In 1924-1925 gross industrial output was 63,7% and agriculture - 87,3% of the pre-war (1913 level of the year). Freight turnover of railways in 1924-1925 accounted for 63,1% of prewar. Total foreign trade turnover in 1924-1925 accounted for just 27% of prewar. Reach the industrial level 1913, managed only in 1926-1927.

At this time, the advanced powers of the West and the Japanese Empire did not stand still and developed rapidly. And in the USSR of the 20s, not a single large-scale industrial or transport project was implemented. Part of the mining industry, oil fields, etc., was transferred to Western concessions. "Official friends" of Soviet Russia like the famous A. Hammer robbed the country, exporting historical and cultural values ​​of the Russian people.

The country's economic mechanism was an ugly symbiosis of administrative planning and the speculative market. Finance for development was not. The gold reserves of the Russian Empire were plundered and plundered by the joint efforts of the white, red commissars and foreign predators. Part of the gold, finance, was taken out of the country under the king. A huge amount of private gold, silver, precious stones, other valuables, cultural and historical monuments were removed and stolen during the civil war. Nobody gave loans. The West blocked foreign trade.

There were no advanced industries. The whole world went to the future. The industrial era has come. And in the USSR there was no engine building, automotive industry, tractor construction, instrument engineering, radio engineering, aircraft manufacturing and shipbuilding, developed metallurgy, and the chemical industry. The country required complete electrification of the industry. The industrial backwardness of Soviet Russia from developed countries became monstrous, deadly. A little more and the army of the western industrial powers and militarized Japan would easily have crushed the Red Army, which remained in the past - carts, cavalry, very few cars, armored vehicles and airplanes, at the same time obsolete models, trophies of the First World War. Without advanced engineering and heavy industry, Russia was waiting for death. Strong and dangerous enemies for backward agrarian Russia were not even such great powers as Germany and Japan, but Poland and Finland.

Soviet cities were drowning in poverty, street children, and unemployment. The dominance of the bureaucracy, which was experiencing a new flourishing, the decline in the quality of management led to an increase in officialdom. The criminal world flourished. The chaos of two wars (world and civil), a revolution led to a criminal revolution. NEP created an economic and social base for crime. In 1920, a whole wave of theft and fraud took place. Suffice it to recall the famous novel “The Golden Calf” by Ilf and Petrov. There was a link of corrupt bureaucracy, the party-state, economic apparatus with the criminal world. A similar picture will occur in the country during the late Gorbachev and early 1990-s.

Agriculture was abandoned in the Middle Ages, where horses or own hands were used instead of tractors and mechanical machines. The former large farms (landowners) were crushed, new ones could not be created. Marketability plummeted. The village returned to subsistence farming, most of the farms worked only to feed themselves.

In 1927, the grain harvest crisis began. The apparent stability of NEP collapsed. Cities with outdated, weak industries could not meet the needs of the village. In response, the village refused to give bread. Had to enter food cards. Over the country again became the ghost of a new peasant war, famine. The USSR in the late 20-s crawled to a new bloody distemper. To a new confrontation between the city and the village, the collapse of the "independent" Bantustans, a wild massacre of Russians on the national outskirts.

Moreover, the psychology of the people was distorted by the three-century domination of the “Russian Europeans,” the Romanov dynasty. The division of the people into masters and serfs. The bloody First World War, which claimed the lives of millions of the healthiest men. The catastrophe of 1917 of the year, the fratricidal civil war - the real inferno (hell) on earth. He left his mark on the terrible famine of the 1921-1922 years, comparable in its deadly consequences to the medieval "black death". In this terrible time, the ethics of work and morality were forgotten. People are used to death and violence. It seemed that violence was a universal and very effective means to solve any problems. There were entire armies of people in the country who were accustomed to violence: professional revolutionaries who only did what they destroyed throughout their conscious lives; the intelligentsia, which was initially brought up in hatred of Russia (tsarist, generally “this country”), which could only criticize, subvert, and discredit - great powers (empire), Christian faith and religions in general, “obsolete morality”, old art and history, etc .; heroes of the civil war, veterans of the Red Army, and the defeated former white, green, nationalists, bandits, basmachi, former Socialist-Revolutionaries, anarchists, etc. Thus, human capital in the country was at an extremely low level. It was wildness and decay. People were ready to steal, kill, but forgot how to build, produce, forgot about order and discipline.

At the same time, with the new internal turmoil, it was worth waiting for the invasion of the whites, who still retained the cadres, organization and combat effectiveness in Europe and China, and waited for an opportune moment to return. The interventionists would come on their shoulders again - the Japanese, the Poles, the Finns, the British, the French and the Americans. Soviet Russia had no friends. The great powers of the West and Japan planned to dismember Russia, to get its wealth at its full disposal. Finland, Poland, Romania and other neighbors dreamed of creating great powers on the ruins of Russia. The old world, and then it was almost the entire planet, was hostile to the Soviet, new world. Soviet Russia was planned to be destroyed, crushed.

With the preservation of NEP in Soviet Russia, the implementation of programs of the left or right opposition within the party or even the program of the White Project (who was defeated in the civil war), death was inevitable. The war against the developed West or Japan, or the new peasant war, between the city and the countryside, which was lost to the developed West or Japan, became the detonator of disintegration, disaster. Thus, in the 1920s a new civilizational catastrophe was brewing, the collapse of the country could occur in the 1930s. Giant sacrifices in this case were inevitable. The question was whether they would not be in vain and would not lead to the complete and final destruction of Russian civilization. Or will they still allow to materialize a new reality, a new world-civilization of the future, and repel the impending strike of the old, predatory capitalist world? Create a Soviet superpower and start promoting the Soviet (Russian) global project to create a fair world?

Stalin, the Russian Communists set the task of building the world - the creation of a new world, the civilization of the future based on social justice, ethics of conscience and labor. Society of knowledge, creativity and ministry. It was a Soviet (Russian) globalization project. The Western project to create a global slave-owning civilization, a society of slave owners and consumer slaves, received an alternative.

However, it is not enough to set a goal, it is necessary to materialize it. Create a fabric-infrastructure of a new reality: middle and high schools, houses of creativity and culture, design bureaus and research institutes, factories and plants, collective farms and machine and tractor stations, rebuild cities for new housing and urban transport, build roads and railways, water and oil and gas pipelines, power plants and much more. Create the material basis of the new world. There was practically nothing of this in the USSR after the Civil War. That which was there was destroyed, ruined, plundered.

Stalin understood this very well and brilliantly solved the infrastructure problem. During the implementation of the first five-year plan, 4 February 1931, the Soviet leader said at the First All-Union Conference of Socialist Industry Workers: “To keep up the pace means falling behind. And the backward are beaten ... Would you like our socialist fatherland to be beaten and that it lose its independence? But if you do not want this, you must in the shortest possible time eliminate its backwardness and develop the true Bolshevik pace in the construction of its socialist economy. There are no other ways. ... We are behind the advanced countries by 50 – 100 years. We must make good this distance in ten years. Either we do it, or they will crush us. ”

Summing up the first five-year plan 1929-1933, Stalin said that in the USSR there was no ferrous metallurgy (the basis of industrialization), the tractor and automotive industries — now there is. For the production of electricity, for the production of petroleum products and coal, we stood at the very last place, now moved to the first places. From a country that was weak and unprepared for the defense, the USSR became a mighty military power.

By the beginning of World War II, the red emperor was able to create the second most powerful economic power of the planet. Thanks to this economic and military foundation, the USSR won a brilliant victory in the Great Patriotic War, returned the “debts” of the First World War to Germany and Japan. Thanks to this foundation, the country in a few years recovered from the worst war in the history of mankind. It became a superpower, which successfully opposed the whole of the West, that is, the union of the most developed (in the technological, military-economic sphere), advanced countries on Earth. It was then that the vast majority of industrial enterprises were built and laid, the foundation of developed agriculture was laid, transport infrastructure was created, cities were built, and the country's defense was built. We still live by the fruits of that great Stalin era.

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  1. Fevralsk. Morev 12 March 2019 05: 18 New
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    Stalin did not have time to swing.
    1. Grandfather 12 March 2019 05: 33 New
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      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      Stalin did not have time to swing.

      that's right...
      1. Fevralsk. Morev 12 March 2019 05: 38 New
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        The motto of our president. I did not expect such an amount of the said phrase.
        1. vladimirZ 12 March 2019 08: 49 New
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          The red emperor literally before our eyes created the future. For ten years, from 1930 to 1940, the Soviet Union went from agrarian Russia to a highly developed industrial power, with advanced science and technology, - from an article

          I do not agree that I.V. Stalin was the "red emperor." This is contrary to historical reality.
          Now I read the historian of the researcher of the Stalin era - Yuri Zhukov, who spent many years in the archives, and based on the materials studied there, wrote a number of books, including those combined into a collection of 6 books "Stalin. Unknown archives of the USSR."
          So, dear author of the article, I.V. Stalin was not the emperor, and even the sole leader of the USSR, he was always on the team, for the most part supporting the Stalinist course of development of the country, and for almost all the years of his leadership, he always had opponents or opposing him, or holding back his desire to build a socialist state . And these were not only the opponents of Stalin, the Trotskyists, the Zinoviev-Bukharin, but also his supporters, who did not fully understand Stalin.
          For example, a fact little known to the general public is the desire of I.V. Stalin back in 1936-37, on the basis of the new Constitution of the USSR of 1936, which granted electoral rights for all citizens of the country, to organize general direct, secret, ALTERNATIVE elections. It didn’t work out, the highest small-town party democracy opposed, rebelled, and blocked alternative elections, and in fact delivered to Stalin an ultimatum — either a rejection of the proposed election option or an opposition ready to move Stalin away from the leadership.
          I read a lot of historical books about I.V. Stalin, and from them there are a lot of false books of different Radzinsky, based on various kinds of emotions and rumors, as well as research books, which are scarce, the books of Yuri Zhukov are an archival discovery for us of a new Stalin - a brilliant leader of the socialist type, based on his collective like-minded people who did not always agree with him, but with reasoned arguments of which he was considered and perceived.
          1. kalibr 12 March 2019 10: 09 New
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            Quote: vladimirZ
            based on a team of like-minded people who did not always agree with him

            And then what did these "like-minded people" do?
            1. slasha 12 March 2019 13: 28 New
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              And who do you think like-minded people are? Is it not the innocent Leibu Davidovich? or Radek? Rykova or Bukharin?
              Now such "like-minded people" in large quantities in GDP - starting from A.B. Chubais, ending with DAM. Well, Ulyukaev, until a certain moment there was a like-minded person., Like Secretary of Security Council B.A. Berezovsky.
          2. Cheslav Tsursky 12 March 2019 10: 18 New
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            Of course, I realize that to say critical things about Stalin here is perceived by the majority as sacrilege. Therefore, I am not trying to re-educate someone from among worshipers. However, maybe just someone will think about it. I will list these things:
            - physical destruction, repression, dismissal of tens of thousands of commanders of the Red Army of the highest, senior and middle management;
            - Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, especially the friendship treaty between the USSR and Germany;
            - a lot of pre-war mistakes: the destruction of the fortifications of the old western border, the unsettledness of the new, the pulling up of aircraft and other equipment and the actual deployment in the open, the doctrine of war in foreign territory offensive operations, complete oblivion of the tactics of defensive operations;
            - fatal errors in predicting the military - political situation, criminal neglect of real, operatively significant information ...
            What did the TASS report dated June 14, 1941 that the USSR and Germany strictly observe the non-aggression treaty look like ?! Since June 12, 1941, Zhukov with Vatutin and Tymoshenko have been trying to approve the directive they compiled on the conduct of the troops of the western districts in full combat readiness. Receive denial. Due to the extreme complexity of the situation, on June 14 they again turn to Stalin about the need to send a directive to the troops. And again a categorical refusal. Stalin gave permission for this, but only late in the evening of June 21 ... What is this? What did all this lead to? And all this led to disaster and the almost loss of personnel of the Red Army, the soldiers and commanders of which corrected the mistakes of the great leader with their bones and blood. This is only the meager part of the mistakes of your "genius and deity" that cost the people of our country terrible sacrifices.
            1. BAI
              BAI 12 March 2019 11: 49 New
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              the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, especially the friendship treaty between the USSR and Germany;

              Even Western historians now admit that this was a forced step of Stalin, after England and France refused to oppose Hitler. A number of researchers claim that they hoped to incite Hitler against Stalin.
              1. Cheslav Tsursky 12 March 2019 14: 03 New
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                Quote: BAI
                Even Western historians now admit that this was a forced step of Stalin

                And it is impossible to look at this question one-sidedly. On the one hand, the USSR received certain benefits, pushed the borders, equipment continued to move from Germany to the USSR ... Do you know, for example, that in the pre-war period Germany credited the USSR? It is also interesting that from January 1941 until the outbreak of war, German goods and weapons were exported to the USSR for 220,9 million Reichsmarks! And the USSR sent raw materials to Germany for 206,1 million flight markers. The last train with grain to Germany passed 1 hour 15 minutes before the attack on the USSR. Why doesn’t anyone talk about betrayal, how is it about trade relations with Ukraine ?!
                On the other hand, the treaty untied Hitler's hands to attack Poland and start World War 2. Is not it so? By signing the treaty, the USSR unleashed a war with Finland and we were expelled from the League of Nations. They generally did not like to talk about that war in the USSR.
                1. BAI
                  BAI 12 March 2019 15: 34 New
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                  treaty untied Hitler's hands to attack Poland and start World War 2. Is not it so?

                  No. Hitler would start a war without a treaty. War was inevitable. Only for the USSR would it start a year earlier. And it is not known on whose side this case (German attack on the USSR, and not France) would have come forward, England and France.
                  1. Halado Romane 12 March 2019 19: 21 New
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                    If we say that the Molotov Pact gave the USSR a delay in time, the question arises, but for what time was Stalin going to postpone the Esl war and in 1941 could not believe that it would begin? And as a result, the start of the war is simply catastrophic. Since September 1941, Leningrad was already in blockade. I have never been a staunch opponent of Stalin, but to call him a genius is too much. Reading here the Stalinists there is a persistent feeling that Stalin was catastrophically unlucky. With the people, colleagues in the party, military leaders, but just with the country! All the time he fought with the enemies of the people of which there were so many that it was harder to find no enemies. Enemies were even the wives of his comrades-in-arms and all his life the leader was surrounded by spies of various states. The case of executions and repressions in the Red Army is from the category of obvious, unbelievable. This is the army! And suddenly, before the war, it turns out to be tens of thousands of unreliable military men who are planted, expelled and raided many of the command ... There are no words! Those for whom he is a genius probably also had no luck with the country and people! And how else can all this be explained?
                2. Sugar Honeyovich 12 March 2019 17: 22 New
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                  Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
                  treaty untied Hitler's hands to attack Poland and start World War 2. Is not it so?

                  Is that so? If this contract were not concluded, would Hitler have his hands tied? How?
                3. Altona 15 March 2019 13: 15 New
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                  Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
                  It is also interesting that from January 1941 until the outbreak of war, German goods and weapons were exported to the USSR for 220,9 million Reichsmarks! And the USSR sent raw materials to Germany for 206,1 million flight markers. The last train with grain to Germany passed 1 hour 15 minutes before the attack on the USSR. Why doesn’t anyone talk about betrayal, how is it about trade relations with Ukraine ?!

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                  And what is the crime, Cheslav? Stalin outplayed Hitler, the trade balance in his direction is positive. We came from Germany very necessary equipment and machinery. And in Germany, the USSR supplied bare raw materials, even the land and garbage were not shaken off, weeds were not picked. As it was, it was loaded.
            2. Nagaibak 12 March 2019 12: 01 New
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              Cheslav Tsursky "- physical destruction, repression, dismissal of tens of thousands of commanders of the Red Army of the highest, senior and middle level."
              Tired of these common phrases))). Who, where and how many destroyed? Figures at least in the studio pliz.)))
              Cheslav Tsursky "- the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, especially the friendship treaty between the USSR and Germany"
              And what was the pact bad for the USSR?)))
              Cheslav Tsursky "- a mass of pre-war mistakes: the destruction of the fortifications of the old western border"
              And where and what was destroyed? Specifically, the numbers in the studio.
              Cheslav Tsursky "the lack of convenience of the new, the pulling up of aircraft and other equipment and the actual deployment in the open, the doctrine of war on foreign territory, ie offensive operations, complete oblivion about the tactics of defensive operations."
              Ah ha ha .... Have you read Suvorov-Rezun at night? Fortifications at the new border were under construction. And in what area are the planes being placed?))) Do you even understand what you are writing about?))) They are probably stationed in the bushes.))) The doctrine of war on foreign territory, offensive operations, why are they bad? This is done by all the armies of the world.))) Do not understand this ....)))) And bill Stalin))))) Where are you from, my friend?)))) And what is the complete oblivion of the tactics of defensive operations?))) This is my old man.))))
              Cheslav Tsursky "- fatal errors in forecasting the military - political situation."
              This is what he is talking about?))) Ahhhh ... I understand spring ....)))))
              The people punish him for the orderlies ....
              1. Cheslav Tsursky 12 March 2019 13: 11 New
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                Quote: Nagaibak
                This is what he is talking about?))) Ahhhh ... I understand spring ....)))))
                The people punish him for the orderlies ....

                Quote: Nagaibak
                This is my old man.))))

                No it's all rudeness, son!
                Quote: Nagaibak
                Tired of these common phrases))). Who, where and how many destroyed? Figures at least in the studio pliz.)))

                Your studio is somewhere very deep. Maybe get out of the basement. And the numbers and facts have been cited more than once. You do not hear them. But for you personally, please briefly again. And just in case, you will continue further in such a boorish tone, consider that I have already shown you the way to one well-known place.
                The destruction of the commanders of the Red Army. There are dozens of studies on this subject confirmed by sources. You I have no doubt, and Rezun did not read. Figures. The top command staff of the Red Army was shot - 77%, the average command staff - 73%, the brigade commanders - 55%, the regiment - 90%, the division commanders - 68%, the commanders - 90%, the commanders of the 1st rank - 50%. 3 marshals, both army commissars of the 1st rank ... In total, out of 454 senior command personnel of the Red Army, 350 people were executed. This information is well known. You did not know about this? Of 397 brigade commanders, 251 of 456 regiment commanders were shot 401! Didn’t know about this either? Did you go to the orderlies?
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                The doctrine of war on foreign territory, offensive operations, what is bad?

                You received the answer in my first comment. Read carefully if you are already taken to answer. For all your other questions, I simply recommend that you read the book (There is no scribbler) "Memoirs and Reflections" of Marshal Pobedy Zhukov. The writer was so heard. So what I wrote is a trifle. Read Zhukov or this participant and an eyewitness do not inspire confidence in you. Just some quotes from the book:
                "Unfortunately, it must be noted that on the eve and at the beginning of the war, JV Stalin underestimated the role and importance of the General Staff ... Neither my predecessors nor I had the opportunity to fully report to Stalin on the state of defense of the country ..."
                "At that time, it seemed to us that in matters of war and defense, Stalin knew no less, but more than us ... When we had to face the difficulties of the war, we realized that our opinion was erroneous."
                "Now, after everything experienced ... we can say that the country's leadership erroneously neglected our demands ... after the war with Finland."
                Further, Zhukov tells things in general, interesting to say the least, about how in May 1941 at the Politburo, Stalin informed Zhukov and Tymoshenko about the request of the German ambassador to create supposedly searchable German groups to search for the graves of German soldiers who died in World War I on the territory of Russia ... It turned out that border cards were ready indicating the points where these German groups would arrive. Zhukov was struck by German arrogance in this way to conduct reconnaissance, which was reported to Stalin. Stalin’s answer - and the German ambassador also asked not to pay much attention when their pilots “accidentally” fly into our territory they have a lot of young people in aviation ... Further Zhukov about Stalin: Hoping for his “wisdom” he overdid himself.
                It will be especially interesting for you to read further about how Stalin "prepared" for the war, about the shot commanders ... Here are his words - "... I do not know the case when innocent people were immediately released home. No, they were kept for many years in prisons, often without further conduct of business, as they say without trial. " That is not what I said. Not Rezun. This is Zhukov. Marshal of Victory. You do not want to refute it? Give it a try. And I’ll tell you more about his opinion about Stalin.
                1. Nagaibak 12 March 2019 14: 04 New
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                  Cheslav Tsursky of the "High Command of the Red Army was shot - 77%, of the middle command - 73%, brigade commander - 55%, commander - 90%, commander - 68%, commander - 90%, commanders of the 1st rank - 50%. 3 marshals, both army commissars 1st rank ... Altogether 454 people were shot from 350 of the Red Army’s top command. Is this information well known. Didn’t you know about this? Of the 397 brigade commanders, 251 out of 456 regiment commanders were shot 401!
                  1. And is that all?)))) Hehehehe everything Karl is capable of?)))) You are here tryndy about tens of thousands of repressed.))) It was about them that I asked. Where are the numbers?))) As I understand it, you are not at all capable of understanding what you are being asked about? Where are the lists of tens of thousands of names?))) There are none of them?))) Then why can't write what you can confirm?)))
                  2. Ahhhhh Zhukov’s memoirs)))) Shaw Zhukov is a writer, say))))) I don’t know.))))))))))))))) Or maybe he’s still Marshal Soviet Union!))))) Why did you bring so little? It was necessary to roll sheets of ten. How did he relate to Stalin.)))) Or maybe we’ll go over the points of questions asked by me?)))) You did not answer anything besides puffing your cheeks. You started your post so importantly about doctrines, you tried to tell us something about tactics.))) Hmm ... but somehow it didn’t work out for you.)))) Answer my questions to begin with. True, you have to read books, well, we'll wait.)))) But for starters ... so what was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact bad for the USSR for?)))))))))))
                  1. Cheslav Tsursky 12 March 2019 15: 13 New
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                    I told you about the shot command staff. Is this not enough for you? In total, those shot, repressed and fired from the Red Army for that period are called the figure of up to 40 soldiers. And there are lists. Bother to search. You will definitely succeed.
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    Ahhhhh Zhukov’s memoirs)))) Shaw Zhukov, say the writer?)))) Well, I didn’t know.))))))))))))))) But maybe he’s still the Marshal of the Soviet Union !)))))

                    I was joking with you. smile How old are you? What question have you raised and who are you to dare to speak in a similar tone? That almost no attention was paid to defensive tactics? Well, you better read the 1939 Field Charter. There you have the whole doctrine. "If the enemy enforces war on us, the USSR will smash it on its territory and free the foreign workers who are moaning under the yoke of capitalists." You can still read German and Soviet memoirs of that time massively confirmed by sources of names and numbers, and you will find out that by June the USSR was not ready not only for offensive actions, but not at all ready for defensive ones. In your incompetence, you did not go far from Rezun, only think in different directions. Any person (except you, of course) will immediately have a lot of questions when thinking about the “sudden and treacherous attack” - how could this be ?! This, what kind of Stalinist faith for Hitler costing us rivers of blood ?! Here's a fact for you - in January 1941, tactical exercises of the beginning of the war with Germany were held at the General Staff of the Red Army where the defensive strategy was not played out at all. The scenario of the exercises stipulated that the enemy attacked first but ... He was defeated and thrown back to their original positions. Here the defeat of the enemy on its territory was already beaten in detail and thoroughly. The Kiev military district struck across southeast Poland on Krakow. Defensive headquarters game has not been held more than once. Result? On the first day of the war in Lithuania, the Germans advanced 65 km, surrounded Liepaja. entered the Latvian border and besieged the Brest Fortress. The second in Belarus was taken by Pruzhany, Ruzhany, Kobrin. We took Kaunas on this day. Vilnius taken on June 24th. On June 26, the Germans took Molodechno and reached the approaches to Minsk. In the Baltic States, Šiauliai and Daugavpils were taken. On June 27, Soviet troops were encircled in the Bialystok area. June 28 captured Minsk. June 30 is occupied by Riga and Lviv. Few? Stalin is not to blame? The commanders, commissars, the Red Army, the people are to blame ... Well, so Stalin began to deal with the generals almost immediately. They were still fighting out of the encirclement, and had already been declared traitors, enemies and cowards! And yes so to your note - the siege of Leningrad (this is a city on the Neva) began already on September 8, 1941 and continued right up to January 27, 1944! "But Stalin is not to blame for anything!"
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    Answer my questions to begin with. True, you have to read books, well, we'll wait.)))) But for starters ... so what was the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact bad for the USSR for?)))))))))))

                    To begin with, put your mentor tone somewhere. I commented on this above. Read. And in this case, you answer - so Zhukov is not your authority? Victory Marshal directly speaks of Stalin's incompetence! And the second - so what did you say nothing about the TASS report of June 14, 1941? In Germany and in many countries of the world this message was regarded as frank cowardice on the part of the leadership of the USSR. But the fact that Stalin ignored bringing the troops into full combat readiness? Is Zhukov lying?
                    1. Nagaibak 12 March 2019 15: 42 New
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                      Cheslav Tsursky "The total number shot, repressed and fired from the Red Army for that period is the figure of up to 40 soldiers."
                      1.He-heh-heh the answer is incorrect.)))) This is the number of those dismissed from various ranks of the Red Army during various years of the so-called repression. And among them, not everyone was shot, far from all. And not everyone was repressed. So where are the listings then? You surely tell me that there are lists so please kindly present them. You are trying to move off the topic.))))
                      2. Note my friend evaluate Stalin all the time you .... not me. I have not yet said a word in his defense. I don’t know about what games you are reporting in January 1941 at the General Staff.)))) But in the memoirs Zhukov describes the staff game in which he played for the Germans. And he beat the USSR. Why don’t you write about this?))))) You know your selective memory. Offensive plans are developed by all armies and in all countries of the world. If you don’t know, then this is ... strange.)))
                      3. If you carefully read smart books, then you will understand that at the time of the invasion of the USSR the nickname was not ready for offensive, nor for defensive actions. Therefore, do not be clever here.))) Further, only the amateur can believe that putting the units on alert could stop the German attack on 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX.)))
                      4. I'm not joking with you. How old are you? Are you that Pole? Since you do not like the Molotov-Rib-Pact pact.))))
                      5. But you have not answered the questions. It is a pity that we never happened to hear the head of the transport department.))))
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                        Quote: Nagaibak
                        If you carefully read smart books, then you will understand that at the time of the invasion, the USSR was not ready for offensive nicknames, nor for defensive actions. Therefore, do not be clever here.))) Further, only the amateur can believe that putting the units on alert could stop the German attack on 22.06.1941/XNUMX/XNUMX.)))

                        If there is a person who can comment on what you wrote, I will be grateful. Regarding the information you need on the lists, I recommend that when you calm down and take a rest, contact the MO official website. I am sure they will recommend the appropriate archives to you. There is the Memorial Scientific Research and Production Center, there is the Archive of the President of the Russian Federation, and the Stalin Shooting Lists, you can easily find there is such an Internet resource by name and geographical signs.
                      2. Nagaibak 12 March 2019 16: 43 New
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                        Cheslav Tsursky "If there is a person who can comment on what you wrote, I will be grateful."
                        1.And why did I write something incomprehensible?)))) Well, oh well ...))))
                        2. About sites and shooting lists)))) Again blah blah blah -Cheslav jump from the topic counted. Although you still have not answered me who you are or where you are from.))) Until new exciting meetings. I wish you happiness.)))
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                        Quote: Nagaibak
                        Cheslav Tsursky "If there is a person who can comment on what you wrote, I will be grateful."
                        1.And why did I write something incomprehensible?)))) Well, oh well ...))))
                        2. About sites and shooting lists)))) Again blah blah blah -Cheslav jump from the topic counted. Although you still have not answered me who you are or where you are from.))) Until new exciting meetings. I wish you happiness.)))

                        And what can one think, why be surprised, dear comrades, if just the same Cheslav, in another article, argued that in the Republic of Ingushetia, under tsarism, it means there was no hunger. ?? One to one
                2. Mavrikiy 12 March 2019 15: 56 New
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                  Cheslav Tsursky (Cheslav Tsursky) Today, 15:13 NEW
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                  What question have you raised and who are you to dare to speak in a similar tone?
                  In VO all are equal. Leave your arrogant arrogance in the dressing room.
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                  I respect and honor the Marshal of Victory, but! Zhukov had to rewrite memoirs for each new edition. And yet, sadly, Zhukov was an associate of Khrushchev.
                  Any questions? And the Pact took place after the Munich agreement, after the decision of Poland not to let Soviet troops through its territory to assist Czechoslovakia. And who are the Poles after that? Looking at the relationship of the Pact with the decision of Poland? But have you forgotten about the agreement between Poland and Germany on military mutual assistance?
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              Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
              Neither my predecessors nor I had the opportunity to fully report to Stalin on the state of defense of the country ... "
              "At that time, it seemed to us that in matters of war and defense, Stalin knew no less, but more than us ... When we had to face the difficulties of the war, we realized that our opinion was erroneous."
              ... This is Zhukov. Marshal of Victory. You do not want to refute it? Give it a try.
              I’ll risk it. Zhukov’s words “it seemed to us then that in matters of war and defense, Stalin knows no less, but more than us” sound unconvincing, rather like self-justification. If you are a military specialist, how can you not understand that the interlocutor is not competent in this area after talking with him for five to ten minutes? Moreover, if at first he seems to be a great specialist, you will ask complex questions, at the limit of your understanding. About how "Stalin" prepared "for the war, about the shot commanders." The Red Army was created by Trotsky; therefore, among the commanders, the Trotskyists, who were least likely to be suspected of a patriotic attitude towards Russia, should have been present in many.
        2. vladimirZ 12 March 2019 12: 17 New
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          However, maybe just someone will think about it. I will list these things:
          - physical destruction, repression, ...
          - Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact ...
          - mass of pre-war mistakes: ...
          - fatal errors in forecasting the military - political situation, ...
          ... This is only the scanty part of the mistakes of your "genius and deity" - Cheslav Tsursky (Cheslav Tsursky)

          Ha ha ha Horses mixed in a bunch, people ... smile smile smile
          Study, Cheslav Tsursky, historical research of archival data about that historical era, and not the lie of anti-Stalinists.
          No need to blame everything on I.V. Stalin, especially since it is an achievement of the collective Stalinist leadership.
          For example, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact is the achievement of Stalin's diplomacy in that specific situation, which provided the state with an almost two-year head start for preparing for war, transferring the Army from the police-territorial structure to an increased mobilization one, for releasing modern military equipment, transferring industry to military tracks, joining territories of Western Belarus, Ukraine, Bessarabia, the Baltic states, which provided a significant territory for the breakdown of the German Blitzkrieg, and in the end, our natural consequence of this Victory.

          As for the repressions, they were, but in those conditions, at that time, most likely, everything could not be otherwise. It is simply necessary to objectively look at the composition of that society of the 20-40s after an unprecedented bloody civil war. And besides, they wrote denunciations to innocent people, they unfortunately were also who? Not Stalin and his entourage, but people just living next to the victims, and wanting to fuck something from their unseemly actions.

          Not everything is so simple with the assessment of "fatal errors in predicting the military-political situation." You just need to objectively look at that situation not through the eyes of our contemporaries, but from the side of then living people.
          1. Felix Beinarovich 12 March 2019 15: 53 New
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            Cheslav, and such people as
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Hahaha.
            and outright rudeness like
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            Hehe hehe

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            You tryndels here

            can't do anything! I honestly marvel at your endurance and patience. And the level of these commentators is really just beyond criticism. What can be said here? You give them colossal figures of executions of the highest command staff of the Red Army, and they declare to you and that’s all ?! Give tell us the lists !!! Sources in the studio! Now, Nagaybak, I will provide you with sources and lists there you will find. Read - "Party building in the Soviet army and navy. The activities of the CPSU to create and strengthen political agencies, party and Komsomol organizations in the armed forces" (1918 - 1961) M, Military Publishing, 1964, 298-303,512, "Soviet High Command on the eve of the Great Patriotic War war "New and modern history -M, Science, No. 6, 3-20," CPSU in resolutions and decisions of the Congress, conferences and plenums of the Central Committee "-M, Gospolitizdat, 1953 - T2, 849-858.-1204с. Can you? And together with Vladimirzom go to some sort of archive and take a binder of central Soviet newspapers from 1937-1938. The Bolsheviks were bolder than the Stalinists that they did and wrote! Shot - wrote! Here, from your predecessors, you will learn about the executions and repressions against the Red Army and the Red Army: massive! You will learn that the use of physical measures against “enemies and spies” was authorized by the highest party and state leadership of the USSR. Speaking of simple bullying, beatings and torture. All this was called the "fascist military conspiracy." Zhukov Nagaybaku not a source? Not a witness? Well, I’ll quote another words of Marshal Vasilevsky: “In the fact that Hitler decided to start the war in 1941, the role played by the assessment of the degree of defeat of the military personnel that took place with us”. Army General of the Hunchbacks "... how will we fight having lost so many experienced commanders before the war? This is undoubtedly one of the main reasons for our failures." Marshal Eremenko: "Comrade Stalin is significantly guilty of exterminating military personnel before the war, which affected the combat effectiveness of the army."
            1. Felix Beinarovich 12 March 2019 15: 59 New
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              And you Cheslav do not explain anything to the Nagaybaks. But you are doing the right thing by writing about it. After all, people read a resource. The Nagaybaks, and simply speaking the adherents of the cult, and even simpler the sect of Stalin’s witnesses, because how - if Stalin ordered the execution of a thousand, two, three, four red commanders, it means so! And it is necessary because Stalin ordered! That's all!
            2. vladimirZ 12 March 2019 16: 31 New
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              ... Zhukov (Marshal) Nagaybaku not a source? Not a witness? Well, I will give another words of Marshal Vasilevsky:
              ... Marshal Eremenko: "Comrade Stalin is significantly guilty of extermination ...
              - Felix Beinarovich (Felix Beinarovich)

              For your information, Felix Beinarovich, memoirs, especially military ones, are never sources of historical research.
              For example, the memoirs of the same Marshal Zhukov were redone so many times even after his death that the historical price was insignificant to them, so artistic reading was no more. Yes, and if you look at the opinion of G. Zhukov about Stalin on the same Internet, you will come across completely opposite opinions about Stalin, depending on the time and conditions when he voiced them. One word opportunist George Konstantinovich was still that. So references to it are historically biased.
              As for the rest of the marshals and generals who defamed Stalin after his death for the sake of Khrushchev and his toadies, for the sake of posts and titles, their price is worthless on a market day.

              The exceptional opinion of I.V. Stalin at two Marshals:
              - Rokossovsky K.K., who told Khrushchev in response to his proposal to publicly condemn Stalin that Stalin was a holy man to him and refused to betray his Supreme Commander, for which he was dismissed from his post. Minister of Defense and transferred to the group of general inspectors of the Moscow Region (pensioners);
              - and Golovanova A.E. - The Chief Marshal of Aviation, who also refused to publicly betray Stalin, for which he was dismissed from military service without a pension or employment, having difficulty working there after that with the help of military friends as a simple test pilot at the Civil Aviation Flight Institute.
              All other major marshals and generals ready to defend Stalin were not found. So, the memoirs of large military men are personal popular memories that have no historical value. Such is objectivity, which cannot be avoided.
              The only places where you need to look for the truth of those years are archives of documents, which is what professional historians do, such as Yuri Zhukov, discovering the Truth for us.
            3. Nagaibak 12 March 2019 17: 55 New
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              Felix Beinarovich "Now, Nagaybak, I will provide you with sources and lists there. Read -" Party construction in the Soviet army and navy. The activities of the CPSU to create and strengthen political agencies, party and Komsomol organizations in the Armed Forces "(1918 - 1961) M, Military Publishing House, 1964, 298-303,512," Soviet High Command on the eve of the Great Patriotic War "New and modern history -M, Science, No. 6, 3-20, "The CPSU in the resolutions and decisions of the congress, conferences and plenums of the Central Committee" -M, Gospolitizdat, 1953 - t2, 849-858.-1204с. "
              So much pathos in your post.))) By the way, I am not a Stalinist, but your perestroika fables have long bothered me. That is, as I understand it, in the indicated sources lists of tens of thousands of executed and repressed officers are published? Right, like this, 40000 thousand names? And if there are several hundred names? And that’s all.)))) Then how?)))) Will I have to call you a chatterbox or what?))) No one has proved that Tukhachevsky would have acted better than Zhukov.)))) It is not known where we could be. with Blucher and other heroes of the civil war. So, as I understand it, I should ask you for those numbers now?))) Do you understand that you own them?))))
              1. Mavrikiy 13 March 2019 04: 15 New
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                repeat But you, Nagaybak, do not explain anything to the Felix and Cheslavs. But you are doing the right thing by writing about it. After all, people read a resource. The Felix and Cheslavs, or simply speaking the independents of the USSR and Russia, and even simpler, the sect of witnesses to personal executions by Stalin, simply have nothing but Khrushchev’s “scribbles” and perestroika repeat
                1. Nagaibak 13 March 2019 06: 04 New
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                  Mavrikiy "there is simply nothing but the" inscriptions "of Khrushchev and the remodelers."
                  good
            4. plebs 18 March 2019 02: 17 New
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              And the level of these commentators is really just beyond criticism.
              How many "gifted" mother in Russia! Look at least "Isaev Aleksey Valerievich Poor versus the rich: military-economic confrontation between Germany and the USSR" and then you will be clever, the victim of AIF. And write an article how the repressions in France in 1937 forced the French army, completely mobilized, sitting in the trenches for a year, to merge the French Republic in 40 days. Affiliate commentator.
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          Quote: Cheslav Tsursky
          Since June 12, 1941, Zhukov with Vatutin and Tymoshenko have been trying to approve the directive they compiled on the conduct of the troops of the western districts in full combat readiness. Receive denial. Due to the extreme complexity of the situation, on June 14 they again turn to Stalin about the need to send a directive to the troops. And again a categorical refusal. Stalin gave permission for this, but only late in the evening of June 21.

          Simultaneously:
          "In April-June 1941, with the growing threat of war, additional urgent measures were taken to increase combat readiness, including:
          the call in April – May of 793 of thousands of reservists to replenish the troops of the western military districts almost to wartime states;
          the directive of the Chief of the General Staff of 14 April on urgent putting into combat readiness all long-term firing structures, fortified areas with the installation of weapons of field troops in them in the absence of personnel;
          covert transfer from May 13 from the internal districts of the troops of the second strategic echelon to the western districts while bringing them into combat readiness - 7 armies of 66 divisions (16, 19, 20, 22, 24 and 28-I army, 41-X infantry, th and 21 th mechanized corps);
          bringing the 63 divisions of the reserves of the western districts into combat readiness and putting them out by night marches, secretly, from June 12 into the army of covering these districts (NGO Directive from 12.06.41);
          putting into combat readiness and covert withdrawal under the guise of exercises at the 52 concentration center of the divisions of the second echelon of the cover armies from places of permanent deployment (Order of the NPO from 16.06.41);
          the withdrawal of divisions of the first echelon of cover armies to fortified areas by telegram from the chief of the General Staff from 10.06.41 and the instructions of the people's commissar of defense from 11.06.41 - from the beginning of June;
          bringing all PribOVO and OdVO troops to readiness 18 – 21.06.41;
          creation of command posts from April 1941 of the year and their occupation on June 18 – 21 by urgently formed front-line departments;
          the creation of the army group of S. M. Budyonny on the Dnieper line 21.06.41;
          early release by order of NGOs from 14 in May from all schools and the direction of graduates in the western border districts;
          Order of the NCO No. 0367 from 27. 12.40 and its repetition of 19.06.41 on the dispersal and camouflage of aircraft, etc .;
          Direction Deputy. People's Commissar of Defense of the General K.A. Meretskov I.V. Stalin in ZapOVO and PribOVO to check the combat readiness of the air forces of the districts 14.06.41/XNUMX/XNUMX
          publication of the NGO Directive and Headquarters (No. 1) for putting the troops of the western military districts in combat readiness (signed by 21.06.41 in 22.00, since S.K. Timoshenko and G.K. Zhukov left Stalin in 22.20, having received the approval of this directive by sending it with N.F. Vatutin at the communications center of the General Staff).
          Altogether, 225 of the 237 divisions of the Red Army intended for the war against Germany and its allies in defense plans "were put on alert before the German attack" (S.Yu. Rybas "Stalin")
          1. plebs 18 March 2019 02: 03 New
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            S.Yu. Rybas "Stalin"
            = D.O. Rogozin "How to create a rocket"
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          Cheslav, you wrote everything right! good
      2. wax
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        The "Red Emperor" is an understandable beautiful hyperbole, and the "brilliant leader of the socialist type" is a rather vague maxim.
      3. Proxima 13 March 2019 01: 16 New
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        Quote: vladimirZ
        So, dear author of the article, I.V. Stalin was not an emperor, or even the sole leader of the USSR,

        The emperor should have a normal suit and a pair of shoes so that, well, at least he was buried with dignity. Stalin did not have all this "wealth"! Unbroken! request
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        The author is not aware that the profiles of emperors were always on coins and banknotes.
  2. free 12 March 2019 10: 31 New
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    Quote: Dead Day
    Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
    Stalin did not have time to swing.

    that's right...

    Ege, so that’s the one who pumps the boat.
  3. sniperino 12 March 2019 13: 01 New
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    You, "grandfather" - the mouthpiece of Navalny, launch his movie to the masses
    Quote: Dead Day
    that's right...
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    Stalin did not need a buildup.
    1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 11: 11 New
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      Both forum users and various authors have already written repeatedly that historical processes are incommensurable with human life. I mean, 70 years is not a deadline! Rejoice in the destruction of the USSR and kick the dead lion at least g.L. The closest examples are the establishment of capitalism from the beginning of the very first bourgeois revolution --- the Dutch bourgeois revolution of the 1566th century .--- the bourgeois revolution of 1609 --- XNUMX in the Netherlands.
      Another example --- EUROPEAN UNION !!!!!!!!!! The French presented the creation of the European Union in the 2015th century as the realization of Napoleon's dream after his short-term and incomplete unification of Europe. Here is an example of another long-term creation of the union. It is interesting that Napoleon is the winner for them and NOW! No matter what! Somehow I happened to watch a French documentary film of XNUMX "" Napoleon. Liberation of Europe "". There is something strange with this film, but oh well. I advise everyone!
      1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 11: 29 New
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        Examples of lengthy historical processes.
        1) The liberation of Egypt from the rule of the Hyksos.
        2) The liberation of the Persians from the power of the Medes, which ended under Cyrus the Great.
        3) The struggle of Russia with the Horde.
        4) Reconquista on the Iberian Peninsula.
        5) The struggle of the Chinese people with the Mongols and Manchus.
        6) The liberation of the Balkan peoples.
        7) The liberation of India from the control of the British
        8) The liberation of Indonesia from the Dutch.
        9) And, probably, the longest process is the formation of the state of Israel !!!
        1. kalibr 14 March 2019 07: 44 New
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          Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. Society develops with the development of tools. Basic postulate of all textbooks on sociology, history, economics. Today, development has accelerated several times. Now every five years, the amount of information doubles, and there was something that doubled in 25 years. Therefore, to compare the processes of the era of the Bronze Age, the Middle Ages and the Internet is meaningless.
          1. Reptiloid 17 March 2019 21: 44 New
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            And I am not against Vyacheslav Olegovich’s comment! Moreover, he suits me. Indeed, if ~~~~ 180 years after the unification of Europe by Napoleon within a year, the EU appeared, and now, the processes are accelerating as the former teacher of the CPSU HISTORY published here, then we won’t have to wait 100 --- 200 years for the next socialist association of people!
            Quote: kalibr
            Do not confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. Society develops with the development of tools. Basic postulate of all textbooks on sociology, history, economics. Today, development has accelerated several times. Now every five years, the amount of information doubles, and there was something that doubled in 25 years. Therefore, to compare the processes of the era of the Bronze Age, the Middle Ages and the Internet is meaningless.
            Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
  • Reptiloid 12 March 2019 05: 28 New
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    It will soon be 35 years old, as there is no USSR. If you compare in accordance with the time ---- comparison in favor of the USSR, which created Stalin.
    I look forward to continuing the article +++++
    1. Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 06: 43 New
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      after Stalin, the country was returned to the Leninist-Trotskyist path
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        Trotskyist in its purest form ... Lenin ... with all his errors and errors about another ... perhaps Stalin is the faithful Leninist who correctly developed the doctrine of the victory of socialism in one particular country ... do not mix)
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          not ah! Stalin is an antagonist to both ... the role of Trotsky is no less enormous and he is the real creator of October and his leader-practitioner and no less significant theorist, it’s just that, unlike the dead Lenin, he was trampled down ....
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            Lenin simply died in time, and when reality (and communism bloomed before NEP) began to fall short of theory, Lenin was forced to go to NEP, but it was too late for industry, it was totally ruined, and the remnants surrendered to congresses and amers !!! !!! (accidentally?)
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            net count on the history of the CPSU)) ... I am also aware that the RCF of Petrograd was headed by Trotsky during the WWR ... BUT these were inevitable consequences ... regarding the reasons for the collapse of industry, infrastructure and the economy as a whole, you have ideas from Korotich in the Spark (there was such a monster from the time of perestroika and the beginning of the 90s) ... what’s generally called past ...
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              learn from the textbooks of the thirties :)
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      Quote: Reptiloid
      It will soon be 35 years old, as there is no USSR. If you compare in accordance with the time ---- comparison in favor of the USSR, which created Stalin.

      Stalin had the most important and invaluable resource and wealth of the country -young, full of strength and energy, the fast-growing Russian people.

      By 91g, it was already a rapidly aging people, dying out since 1964, which physically could not already accomplish anything like that.
      And it began with a demographic catastrophe of the decade that the author mentions. This is the price.
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        Quote: Olgovich
        Stalin had the most important and invaluable resource and wealth of the country — a young, fast-growing Russian people full of strength and energy.

        Not "At Stalin", but during Stalin!

        1. Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 18: 01 New
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          it's not about growth dynamics: (the thing is that my great-grandfathers had 5-6 children, my grandfathers had three, my parents were two, we have one each ....
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        Quote: Olgovich
        By 91g, it was already a rapidly aging people, dying out since 1964, which physically could not already accomplish anything like that.


        The growth of the Russian (Slavic) population was until 1990. Yes, 4-5 lower. than the Central Asian republics. but due to the larger absolute number it gave from half to 1/3 of the growth of the USSR.

        But in liberoid times, there is a terrible process of extinction.

        Quote: Olgovich
        And it began with the demographic catastrophe of that decade.


        The growth rate (relative percentage) of the growth began to decline already from 1904 (even despite the improvement in the field of healthcare). Well, the point is not even that- if Russia remained cirrus and patriarchal absolute growth would be significant. But an industrial country does not imply such an increase in demography.

        You are already old, and do not understand such simple things?
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          Quote: chenia
          if Russia remained marsh and patriarchal, the absolute increase would be significant. But an industrial country does not imply such an increase in demography.

          With the first telecast in the world (1911) and the first picture tube of 1907, etc., Lapotnaya Russia would be a densely populated Russian people country with which it would not be scary today look into the future, to do ANY reasonable actions - construction, settlement, development, etc.

          ten-year-old Avrali and jerks "Give !!" brought to depopulation Slavic population since 1964. Others, by the way, grew quietly, taking advantage of the results of jerks.


          What is the future, in the conditions of rapidly growing surrounding humanity? For whom were they built?

          Put flamethrowers, nuclear weapons at the borders? no

          how can
          don't understand such simple things?
          1. chenia 12 March 2019 12: 33 New
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            Quote: Olgovich
            led to the depopulation of the Slavic population since 1964


            There was no depopulation, there was a slight increase. An increase of 60-70 g (32 million / 10 years, in absolute terms the largest.) Is associated with a general improvement in life, and with widespread vaccination and the use of antibiotics, which sharply reduced both child mortality and sharply increased the average duration.

            Now extinction is in full swing. Why?

            Quote: Olgovich
            ten-year Avrali and jerks "Give !!


            They led to the existence of Russia in general.
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              Quote: chenia
              There was no depopulation, there was a slight increase. An increase of 60-70 g (32 million / 10 years, in absolute terms the largest.) Is associated with a general improvement in life, and with widespread vaccination and the use of antibiotics, which sharply reduced both child mortality and sharply increased the average duration.

              Yes Yes:
              in 1964, the total fertility rate ceased to provide simple substitution of generations already for the entire population of Russia, the net reproduction rate dropped below unity.

              This is depopulation-extinction. Up to 91 g is hidden, transformed from 92 g to open.
              what is depopulation, see "Encyclopedic Demographic Dictionary", M. 1985
              Quote: chenia
              Now extinction is in full swing. Why?

              There are many articles on this subject: http://www.demoscope.ru/weekly/2010/0417/tema02.php.

              disaster began during the years of the "great turning point" of the early 1930s.
    3. kalibr 12 March 2019 07: 53 New
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      Dmitriy! "I am waiting for the continuation of the article +++++" There will be a continuation for you, but of course. But personally it will not help you. You personally will not live better. And even if you come out with a portrait of the "emperor" on the square ... nothing will change. Even nerves to calm and that will not succeed. Because ... you all that is not changed. Of course, there is a chance ... when reptilians get together a lot. But in this case, we now have riot police and the National Guard, and everyone knows that the protest movements in Russia are the work of the United States. So what remains? Rejoice quietly. Well, rejoice in order and article!
      1. Boris55 12 March 2019 08: 52 New
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        Quote: kalibr
        You all that is not change

        I'm not Dmitry, and yet. Your position: "Rus, give up!" - not for me. If nothing depended on the opinion of each of us and the opinion of the people as a whole, then we would not have had an imitation of popular elections, nor free 20-TV channels and heaps of radio stations. Bourgeois know how to count money. Why do you think they do all this? Where does this attraction of unprecedented generosity come from?
      2. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 09: 50 New
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        Why are you so worried, Vyacheslav Olegovich? That you somehow got nervous Nepadezzi! Already OMONOM began to scare me! Apparently, they were very scared! am But of course not me, but for myself!
        Stalin is already in the square. Over time, there will be more monuments to him. He’ll also collect his works ... But now I’ll gather my thoughts and --- I’ll print my arguments !!!!!!!! Probably closer to the beginning of the comments.
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          Quote: Reptiloid

          Why are you so worried, Vyacheslav Olegovich? It was you who somehow became nervous nepadetststski! Already OMON frightened me began! Apparently, very frightened themselves! But not for me, of course, but for myself!

          Of course, I do not at all want any bosota to climb into the hegemons again. Then she will again give on the head, of course, but it will ruin the life of many. Aren't you afraid when a dog on the street grins its teeth and you have nothing in your hands? So it’s unpleasant for me when people ... well, let's say, those who do not shine with intelligence and wit begin to “open-face” to open the mouth opening, in order to expel the “truths” far from reality. So you have to remember about riot police. This is the best argument in the dispute with "such."
          1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 10: 43 New
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            Bosota climbed into hegemony? Who are you talking about? After all, I know your biography printed here well ..... Well, a very interesting development of the topic ....
        2. kalibr 12 March 2019 10: 06 New
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          But here I am going to get together with my thoughts and I’m going to print my arguments !!!!!!!!

          Do you have any thoughts? And even the arguments ... Well, well ...
          1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 10: 46 New
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            Yes Yes
            Quote: kalibr
            Quote: Reptiloid
            But here I am going to get together with my thoughts and I’m going to print my arguments !!!!!!!!

            Do you have any thoughts? And even the arguments ... Well, well ...

            Not everyone has mastered the art of retelling with 90% novelty. Although Krasnov, at least someone else .....
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              Here I am about the same ... There are no other people's clever thoughts, so show your ... This is wonderful!
      3. Mavrikiy 13 March 2019 04: 24 New
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        kalibr (Vyacheslav) Yesterday, 07:53
        It will not help you. You personally will not live better. And even if you go out with a portrait of the "emperor" to the square ... nothing will change.

        Vyacheslav, are you all worried about the presence of stinky cheese in a convenience store?
        1. Reptiloid 13 March 2019 08: 35 New
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          Perhaps a person wants to boast of new false teeth, like about a year and a half ago in the comments ...... But he does not know how to do this, how to approach the topic .....
      4. Reptiloid 13 March 2019 12: 36 New
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        Quote: kalibr
        Dmitriy! "I am waiting for the continuation of the article +++++" There will be a continuation for you, but of course. But personally it will not help you. You personally will not live better. And even if you come out with a portrait of the "emperor" on the square ... nothing will change. Even nerves to calm and that will not succeed. Because ... you all that is not changed. Of course, there is a chance ... when reptilians get together a lot. But in this case, we now have riot police and the National Guard, and everyone knows that the protest movements in Russia are the work of the United States. So what remains? Rejoice quietly. Well, rejoice in order and article!
        I re-read the comments, that's interesting ----- I wrote a short comment on the flock of the famous and respected Author, who wrote many articles, that I liked. And suddenly such a completely amazing reaction from another author ,? And what can you think? It’s even somehow strange.
    4. sniperino 12 March 2019 13: 16 New
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      It will be 35 years soon, as there is no USSR
      I haven’t been leaving for more than 28 years, and not soon, but only in December. request
      1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 14: 07 New
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        Quote: sniperino
        Quote: Reptiloid
        It will be 35 years soon, as there is no USSR
        I haven’t been leaving for more than 28 years, and not soon, but only in December. request
        On a historical scale, estessssssno ...... How not to count large-scale implemented projects of the USSR can not be compared with post-Soviet in proportion to time.
        And here we have built a stadium for almost 20 years, barely completed it, but if it weren’t a mundial, they probably couldn’t
        Or another example. Moscow Metro. Under Stalin, the metro was built --- AS A PALACE !!! It was even publicly compared with the structures of Ancient Egypt! Although there are parallels with the Masonic temples and the Ancient Mayans. FOR AGES !!!. Built in record time, and even during the war !!! At the turn of the century, it was decided in Moscow to build the first of the suburban branches, the light metro, i.e. aboveground --- Butovskaya line. And it turned out that it is very expensive to maintain it --- against vibration, noise, + intersections with streets, snow removal, etc. They didn’t break it, but they decided not to build new light lines in Moscow.
        1. sniperino 12 March 2019 14: 34 New
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          And we have built a stadium for almost 20 years
          Palace of Soviets: from 1931 (project competition) they “made a platform” (blew up the Cathedral of Christ the Savior) and before the war they assembled only a metal frame less than 40 m high, which was dismantled into anti-tank hedgehogs during the war. They started building the Boguchanskaya hydroelectric power station in 1974, froze the construction site after 28 years (the collapse of the USSR), resumed it in 2006, and already in 2012 launched the first 2 hydropower units. There were many long-term construction projects in the USSR.
          1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 15: 37 New
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            They didn’t finish the Palace of Soviets ---- they understood the importance of other construction projects.
            It was before the Second World War that in Leningrad, not only public buildings were built, but also houses for residents, the so-called “nods.” In different parts of the city.
            In Moscow, how much was built before the Second World War! Like public buildings, including Museums, libraries, Moscow State University, Supreme Economic Council, theaters, residential buildings, of course.
            1. sniperino 12 March 2019 16: 46 New
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              It was before the Second World War that in Leningrad, not only public buildings were built, but also houses for residents, the so-called “nods.” In different parts of the city.
              In Moscow, how much was built before the Second World War!
              On the other hand, under Khrushchev, they also built a lot, and in the 90s, the historical centers of many cities began to actively disfigure with "little scrapers." But now the construction of large infrastructure facilities is going well. They wanted to build a bridge from Taman to Kerch in the USSR for a long time, now it is. Stadiums, highways, private houses ... Do you remember when new military equipment was produced at such a pace?
              1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 19: 03 New
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                Whatever they say about the Khrushchevs, at that time they solved the housing problem, had a suitable price. However, many do not know that the Khrushchev block did not suddenly appear so immediately, but, like many other things, were the result of lengthy experiments begun under Stalin. “Kirovki”, “Stalin”, block houses made of foam concrete (“block steel”, having the same parameters), brick “Khrushchev”, 9-story Khrushchev, 2-3-story post-war ...... And then they chose 5-story buildings for mass construction block, at the price the cheapest with a 4-5 meter kitchen, combined bathroom .......
                Now other technical capabilities in all sectors
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                  Whatever they say about the Khrushchevs, at that time they solved the housing problem, had a suitable price.
                  Khrushchev suits me today.
                  1. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 21: 15 New
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                    And not only you. In the GDR, they were built and are not destroyed at all after the merger.
                    Quote: sniperino
                    Quote: Reptiloid
                    Whatever they say about the Khrushchevs, at that time they solved the housing problem, had a suitable price.
                    Khrushchev suits me today.
  • Pessimist22 12 March 2019 05: 46 New
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    It is clear, but I thought that the idea of ​​creating a socialist state encouraged the peoples of the USSR to labor feats, and it turns out that Stalin gave the order.
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      Quote: Pessimist22
      It is clear, but I thought that the idea of ​​creating a socialist state encouraged the peoples of the USSR to labor feats, and it turns out that Stalin gave the order.

      Personalities make history, so when great personalities are at the head of the state — they make a great story, and when traitors and mediocrity rule the state — the country is peddling.

      Do you think that at the end of 80's, the peoples of the USSR got excited about the idea of ​​creating a capitalist state?
      1. wooja 12 March 2019 06: 55 New
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        burned with the idea of ​​improving life, the Communists at that time got everyone ... ... they just got tired of it, but it turned out as always .....
        1. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 08: 07 New
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          These were no longer communists, but plutocrats.
          1. wooja 12 March 2019 08: 25 New
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            yes whatever .... they have a lot of names .....
        2. silberwolf88 12 March 2019 10: 36 New
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          it’s not the people who wanted lacy knickers of sausage and freedom ... this is the elite who sold the Socialist Fatherland and, starting with the ardent Trotskyist Khrushchev ... then, unfortunately, everything went only to replace the system with a capitalist one ...
          1. wooja 12 March 2019 10: 42 New
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            Yes, the elite turned out to be rotten. But Nikita only legalized treason ... everything was sold before him ...
            1. silberwolf88 12 March 2019 10: 50 New
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              it was different before him ... but a purposeful struggle was waged against apostates, traitors and Trotskyists ...
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                judging by the results ..., or the fight was ineffective or the goals were set incorrectly ...,
                1. silberwolf88 12 March 2019 10: 55 New
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                  Changshas like Khrushchev’s mines as bookmarks under the foundation of the USSR building worked ... not everything was done by Comrade Stalin ...
                  1. wooja 12 March 2019 10: 57 New
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                    Yes, not all, unfortunately, turned out to be much more
          2. kalibr 12 March 2019 22: 16 New
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            silberwolf88 (SS)Men and their women and satin knee fit, what ...
            1. Rakti-kali 13 March 2019 10: 35 New
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              Men and their women and satin knee fit, what ...

              I understood correctly, do you use lace and want to go to the EU? lol
    2. Cowbra 12 March 2019 06: 06 New
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      Labor exploits - they are different. A labor feat - including driving an idiotic idea into your head - and rushing about without taking the road and listening to criticism, believing that you are on the only right path, the same Tukhachevsky would have reformed with the army if he hadn’t been shot on time. He back in the early 30s offered the whole industry to completely abandon the production of tanks - and the USSR without Hitler died of hunger by the 40th year, but with 50 tanks a year riveted, light and wretched.
      All of these also need to steer, enthusiasm alone is not enough. And with enthusiasm - the author correctly mentioned the NEP crisis. there are no goods from the city - there is no enthusiasm to give bread in the village
      1. hist 12 March 2019 16: 33 New
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        "... He back in the early 30s offered the whole industry to completely abandon the production of tanks - and the USSR without any Hitler died of hunger by the 40th year, but with 50 tanks a year riveted, light and wretched ... . "- you would at least read the literature before repeating other people's nonsense. 000. In fact, the numbers operated by Tukhachevsky were based on revised five-year plan indicators (in 1932/33 it was planned to produce 197 thousand tractors and 350 thousand cars). And the production of tractors was linked (not only in the USSR) with the production of tanks (proportion - 1 tank released for 2 tractors), automobiles - with the production of aircraft. 2. And do not forget that Tukhachevsky tried to appreciate marginal production capabilities industry, which could be involved in the production of military products with its full load during the first year of the war (not peacetime!). It was believed that in 1932-33. The USSR will reach such production capacity. By the way, the chief of the Military Section of the Defense Sector of the State Planning Commission, N.M., had similar calculations. Snitko (March 1930). More details can be found in the works of L. Samuelson, as well as N. Shilo and A. Glushko.
    3. wooja 12 March 2019 06: 46 New
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      people don’t think about anything at all .... but some of its representatives not only think but also make and use people as a tool
  • Moore 12 March 2019 06: 42 New
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    ... the intelligentsia, which was initially brought up in hatred of Russia (tsarist, generally “this country”), which could only criticize, subvert, and discredit - a great power (empire), Christian faith and religion in general, “obsolete morality” , old art and history, etc.

    The feeling is that these are all demons, so aptly named F.M. Dostoevsky - they are eternal.
  • wooja 12 March 2019 06: 42 New
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    The article is correct but toothless .... there is no fire, but at least it makes an attempt to set the correct emphasis, the author needs to be bolder and sharper, although the generation that chose Pepsi will not digest the other .....
  • Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 06: 42 New
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    A low bow to Stalin, industrialization (and by 1929, Lenin and Trotsky left Russia only 17% of the industry of the Republic of Ingushetia and brought to plow), carried it cruelly and even cruelly. But without it, Guderian tanks in the fall of 1941 could reach the Urals. That is why the liberalists hate him so much (rub the liberalist and find the grandfather of the commissioner)
  • Gunxnumx 12 March 2019 06: 51 New
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    I apologize, I have been reading this author for a long time, I think that the identification in each paragraph of the Soviet with the Russian is not entirely true. It looks like some neglect of national cadres. And to say the least. Dear author, in this way you yourself repel like-minded people from the former Soviet republics.
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      At the same time, I agree with the words of I.V. Stalin about the Russian people, said at a reception in the Kremlin on May 24, 1945.
    2. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 08: 09 New
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      Read Stalin’s speech after the end of the Second World War; there it is said well about the Russian people.
  • wooja 12 March 2019 06: 59 New
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    The president is not Stalin ...., for the past 30 years, the country has not been lucky with leaders.
    1. Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 07: 11 New
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      yah? Putin is his heir, as Stalin erased the Leninist Guard, so Putin erased the oligarchy
      1. wooja 12 March 2019 07: 14 New
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        really, did not know, however ....
        1. Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 07: 14 New
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          glad to tell you ....:)
        2. Boris55 12 March 2019 09: 02 New
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          Quote: wooja
          really, did not know, however ....

          About the seven-boyfriends of 90's what did they hear the thread? Look on the internet.

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            Quote: Boris55
            About the seven-boyars of the 90s, what did they hear the thread?
            About seven-bankers. Semiboyarschina was in the 20th (17th century). Although both are troublesome times.
            1. Boris55 12 March 2019 14: 44 New
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              Quote: sniperino
              Semiboyarschina was in the 20 (17 century).

              Seven oligarchs who decided the fate of Russia: https://snob.ru/selected/entry/30178
              "... These seven arrogant people grew out of the banking sector, which emerged at the sunset of the USSR, but they got real assets as a result of the mortgage auction program. After 1995 years in their hands was a significant part of the country's natural wealth, in particular oil and non-ferrous metals .... The oligarchs began to actively create diversified business empires, as well as buy and build media holdings: TV, newspapers, magazines and this strange new sphere of influence on the brain - the Internet...

              ... Nevertheless, the iron grip of the oligarchs on the throat of the country soon weakened, but already thanks to another president (To Putin). Many of these seven bankers are now out of work ... "
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                Quote: Boris55
                grew out of the banking sector, which emerged at the sunset of the USSR, but they got real assets as a result of the mortgage auction program
                But the boyars in the 90s did not exist. smile I remember something about this from the 90s only the word "seven-bankers", maybe something was erased.
                1. Boris55 12 March 2019 14: 49 New
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                  Quote: sniperino
                  I remember something from 90's only the word "seven-bankers", maybe something was erased.

                  "... It was then, at that terrible time, that the term" seven-bankers "appeared, mainly due to an interview with Berezovsky of the London Financial Times published on 1 on November 1996 of the year. There he boasted that over 50% of Russian economic resources are in the hands of only seven financial oligarchs who not only control the economy, but also solve the country's political problems ... "
      2. Stas34 12 March 2019 07: 41 New
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        Horror, blood is already coming from the eyes. Comparing Stalin and Putin is like a spaceship and a Cossack, which carries a crowd of friends. "Previously, one person solved a million problems, and that was Stalin. Now a million officials cannot solve one problem, and this is Putin." What are you nice people, open your eyes and remove the noodles from your ears. If before something was done, then for the people ... And now? Take Deripaska: replaced in the wires of copper to aluminum. Raising electricity prices (and Rusal bought IrkutskEnergo from us, and you?). My daughter is 3 years old and staying with her grandmother for one day, in the evening she issued "I love Putin! He runs Russia well!" I asked her where she heard all this and got the answer "On TV". As it turned out, the grandmother was tired and turned on the daughter's TV. Zombies ... Wake up!
        1. Dmitry Kuzin 12 March 2019 07: 42 New
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          n-dyayaya, clinic .... remove the blinkers
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          To my daughter 3 of the year and staying with my grandmother for one day, in the evening she issued "I love Putin! He runs Russia well!"

          You were not taught in childhood that you should listen to the elders? laughing I understand that some people prefer to learn from their mistakes, but those who take into account the experience of previous generations survive. And your grandmother is right.
        3. sniperino 12 March 2019 13: 40 New
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          Horror, blood is already coming from the eyes.
          Stop smoking any rubbish from which the vessels of the eyes burst.
      3. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 09: 19 New
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        That is, Sechin, Miller, Chubais, a new generation of Putin, the oligarch with a budgetary feeder.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi 12 March 2019 07: 01 New
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    Bring Stalin back to the square and the streets -
    He led a great country into battle!
    Spread our shoulders - stop slouching
    With Stalin, we won the war!
    Bring Stalin back - regardless of opinions,
    The hero cannot be taken away from the people!
    Bring Stalin back - he is our generalissimo,
    He is standing on Red Square!
    Bring Stalin back - he is our generalissimo,
    Him Victory Parade to take!
  • Olgovich 12 March 2019 07: 24 New
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    Industrial production in 1920 amounted to a miserable 13,8% of the pre-war volumes. Let me remind you that the USSR of the 1920s model is a dead end. A finished country, doomed to new turmoil and collapse
    Soviet cities were drowning in poverty, street children, unemployment. The dominance of the bureaucracy, which was experiencing a new flourishing, a decline in the quality of governance, led to an increase in bureaucracy. The criminal world flourished. The chaos of two wars (world and civil), revolution led to a criminal revolution.
    It was absolutely true that it was scary thief result
    14 years were LOST for the development of the country and needed. to at least restore the previous level.
    Farming was dropped in the Middle Ages

    the author would have studied FIGURES: by 1927, thanks to the NEP, it had practically caught up with 1913. but after the "transformations" -collectivization and pr-in the 1930s, DECLINED and right up to the 1950s was lower than 1913
    For ten years! During this period, Russia has gone from a plow and bast shoes to a T-34 tank and rocket artillery. From an illiterate and illiterate population to millions of scientists, engineers and technicians, mechanics and agronomists, teachers and doctors, skilled workers, pilots and tankmen, sailors and radio operators, geologists and builders. In ten years, Russia was completely rebuilt and recreated, thousands of new enterprises were built,

    Let me remind the author that the industrial revolution in Russia took place BEFORE the Thief and the pace of its growth, if there weren’t a Thief, would lead to the SAME result by 1940. Only without tens of millions of victims, in normal circumstances and in life.
    Yes, and everything that was created over the years -was created on the BASIS of the former Russia-in its universities, its teachers, engineers, teachers, workers, its wealth: Bolsheviks did not bring anything from Switzerland. In Zimbabwe, as the author describes Russia, no Stalin would have done anything.

    The author is silent about the main thing: about the terrible PRICE that was paid by the people for this decade, which was hidden from him and to which he never agreed.
  • Sotskiy 12 March 2019 07: 33 New
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    In terms of industrial production, the Soviet Union came first in Europe, ahead of such advanced industrial powers as Germany, Great Britain and France, and second in the world.

    But what about galoshes, except for which the USSR did not produce anything? wink What is now the place in the world of the Russian Federation in terms of industrial output? After all, we are developing according to the claims of the TV.
    1. Felix Beinarovich 12 March 2019 10: 31 New
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      And excuse me, why with such an industrial volume in the USSR was there such a shortage of the simplest and most necessary things? You do not like the industrial volume of modern Russia? Of course there is something to strive for. Is there a deficit in Russia? Well, at least a little bit reminiscent of the Soviet disgrace, when it was necessary not to buy, but to get and often overpaying and giving bribes ?!
      1. kalibr 12 March 2019 11: 41 New
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        "Polish set ... No, I gave seventy" ...
        1. Felix Beinarovich 12 March 2019 12: 12 New
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          In general, all these people who deify Stalin do not understand how miserable their ideology is. "Stalin for them is the only ray of light in the dark kingdom of Russian history." It’s a shame for a comrade to talk about Great Russia like that. I am ashamed of the great achievements of the people of our country to merit one person. Very ashamed of his mistakes entailing colossal human sacrifices to shift to the shoulders of the innocent.
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        Quote: Felix Beinarovich

        And excuse me, why with such an industrial volume in the USSR was there such a shortage of the simplest and most necessary things?

        Quote: kalibr
        "Polish set ... No, I gave seventy" ...

        Quote: Felix Beinarovich
        In general, all these people who deify Stalin do not understand how miserable their ideology is.

        In general, these people trying to grunt at Stalin do not understand how miserable their knowledge is. Actually, under Stalin, there was practically no shortage, artels and cooperatives satisfied almost 3/4 of all the needs of the population in consumer goods, including furniture sets, children's toys, clothes and shoes, and even the then Hi-Fi in the form of “audio” and “video doubles” (a player and a radio assembled in one case, by the way, my great-grandfather had one, along with a gramophone, or a TV + player). But Nikita the Trotskyist simply ruined the entire Stalinist economy. By the way, there was practically no egalitarianism under Stalin; for her, too, "thanks" to Kukuruznik.
        1. Felix Beinarovich 12 March 2019 13: 36 New
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          In general, these people trying to grunt at Stalin do not understand how miserable their knowledge is.

          Tell me, why if the Bolshevik, at least here, is rudeness necessarily going through the roof? Is this a level? Well, it is good if all around are bad and faithful Leninists who turned out to be entirely Trotskyists, and after Stalin they were entirely Trotskyists, then where were the faithful Stalinists? And you still can’t tell me why, under the wise rule of the wise leader, there was such a catastrophic beginning of the war and such colossal sacrifices ?! Why in the years 1946-1947 the victorious people died of hunger and died ?! And the terrible famine of 1932-1933 is also the Trotskyists ?! And why was collectivization so bloody? Tell me, why did the West in the form of America and Germany, to put it mildly, give Stalin such support in industrialization? Are these the imperialists — capitalists?
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            Quote: Felix Beinarovich
            Tell me, why if the Bolshevik, at least here, is rudeness necessarily going through the roof?

            The answer is simple: only an illiterate person who does not know the history of his own country can behave this way.

            Knowing her is not rude.
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          And everything, everything that was done by the overworking of Comrade Stalin, everything is destroyed ... all good ... here are people bastards and ...
        3. Olgovich 13 March 2019 09: 02 New
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          Actually, under Stalin, there was practically no deficit problem, cooperatives and cooperatives satisfied almost 3/4 of all the needs of the population in consumer goods

          Yes, under Stalin and famine, it wasn’t the worst in the history of mankind.
          Everyone could buy video doubles and Muscovites with Victories fool
      3. Alexander Greene 12 March 2019 23: 44 New
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        Quote: Felix Beinarovich
        Is there a deficit in Russia? Well, at least a little bit reminiscent of the Soviet disgrace, when it was necessary not to buy, but to get and often overpaying and giving bribes ?!

        And you look at the root and then you will understand everything, otherwise you only see what lies on the surface and draw the wrong conclusions.
        1. While there was a Stalinist economy, there was no shortage in the USSR, the money supply corresponded to the volume of output.
        2. The deficit appeared when all enterprises were transferred to self-financing, when the planned orientation of enterprises to: reducing the cost of production was replaced by an not always justified increase in wages. As a result, everyone could buy goods in state stores, but they weren’t enough at all, because production lagged behind money supply growth, so cooperative stores existed in parallel: did not buy meat in the store. You’ll go to a cooperative agricultural store and buy 1 ruble more.
        3. Today, the mass of goods in Russia is much less than in the USSR, but the majority of the people also cannot buy them, only because of a lack of money. Therefore, the appearance of a lack of deficit.
  • Nyrobsky 12 March 2019 07: 36 New
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    No matter how hard they try to denigrate Stalin after his death, pursuing a course of de-Stalinization and scaring the people of the GULAG, he still remains one of the greatest leaders of the country, a request for which among the people only gets stronger. The day before yesterday I was on Red Square in Moscow and saw Stalin’s grave literally drowning in red carnations, which according to some reports were laid in the amount of 14 thousand pieces.
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      "The Red Emperor created the future literally before our eyes."
      Created ... but ... did not create an heir. He didn’t choose, didn’t leave, didn’t prepare, didn’t gossip, didn’t transfer power. What was missing? Mind, vision? Ah, there was no "out of whom to choose"? Well, he set those around him ... "We don’t need smart ones, we need loyal ones." That is, he failed to do the main thing - to ensure the continuity of power. And one more thing - his system - the system of one person. Who is this "person" defines everything. This is a bad system! We need such that one person at the top could not "wonder." Can anyone imagine the president of the United States Gorbachev? And so that their president did what ours did? Is it funny? It was not for nothing that the USSR, spending huge sums of money on supporting communist parties all over the world, including in the USA, did not advance a single step towards the United Socialist States, and they rather changed the USSR to the CIS. So the main and most worthy act he did not commit. On the contrary, he left behind people at the top of people who were frankly stupid and unworthy ... But it was said, tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are!
      1. wooja 12 March 2019 08: 22 New
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        The Red Emperor is a clear exaggeration, but the remark about the absence of a successor and continuity is correct. Stalin’s role in industrialization was exaggerated, but he was one of the leaders who made the decisions, but it was one of ... Stalin was a compromise figure in the struggle of the party fractions of the CPSU (b), strong, authoritative ... but he received only real power in the 39th, becoming the chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, for some reason all researchers sidestepped the topic of the executive branch, the opposition., local party clans, and in general the real power structure - TABU ... and at the same time the modest general secretary (Purely technical post) turns into Monster, Tirana, Genius, and after all manuals the party collective, and collective talk about why it is not accepted as well as their role in industrialization, collectivization, repression ... but only about Stalin ....
        1. kalibr 12 March 2019 08: 34 New
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          It’s customary to say about his "associates" later "...
          1. wooja 12 March 2019 08: 36 New
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            so it is accepted ...., Stalin-- the moor of the revolution ...,
        2. solovald 12 March 2019 10: 00 New
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          The leader’s role is not to “stand by the machine, plow the land”, but to lead, manage the crowd, make the right strategic decisions, and the results of Stalin’s rule indicate that he did it very effectively. A compromise figure, by definition, presupposes a puppet catering to all parties, and not a person like the "Leader of the peoples of the USSR." Right now we just have a compromise figure.
        3. Sergej1972 12 March 2019 12: 09 New
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          If you read the Soviet newspapers in the early to mid-30s, then Stalin clearly appears as a leader there. SNK Chairman Molotov was significantly inferior to him in the frequency of praise and citation. And even on postcards depicting members of the Politburo of the Central Committee, the portrait of Stalin was large.
          Stalin became chairman of the Council of People's Commissars in the spring of 1941.
          1. kalibr 12 March 2019 13: 50 New
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            What are you talking about? What are 30's newspapers? Who will read them, where and when? They already know everything! Sign up!
      2. Sergej1972 12 March 2019 12: 11 New
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        Yes, in principle, in the last years of Stalin's life, it was clear that either Malenkov or Khrushchev would become the new leader. It is enough to read the Soviet press of the early 50s. These two figures were most often written about, not counting, of course, Stalin himself.
      3. Alexander Greene 13 March 2019 00: 00 New
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        Quote: kalibr
        What was missing? Crazy, insight? Ah, there wasn’t anyone to choose from? Well, he himself put those around ..

        How did you teach the History of the CPSU, if you do not know what I.V. Stalin used Lenin's political experience; at the 19th Congress, Stalin, anticipating his departure, expanded the composition of the Central Committee, the Presidium of the Central Committee and the secretariat by introducing new young party members. But after the death of Stalin, Khrushchev with his camarilla, removed them all from the top leadership, moving to other posts, thereby carrying out a hidden coup. .
    2. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 09: 26 New
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      Interestingly, but on the grave of Yeltsin, a lot of flowers?
      1. kalibr 12 March 2019 11: 40 New
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        Hitler has no grave at all, but his ideas live on ... How many people still pronounce Sieg Heil? Flowers are not a criterion ...
        1. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 12: 54 New
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          Yes, but there are Yeltsin centers hi
      2. Reptiloid 12 March 2019 11: 47 New
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        Not only that, flowers and books with praise continue, as well as exposures, well, the center in Yekaterinburg, Moscow will be completed soon. There is also a Decree on the Museums of the Former Presidents.
        Unfortunately, one cannot swear by swearing, but constantly study what happened then. Talk, write about it. After all, those who participated in the reforms of the 90s are trying to present them as saints in order to legalize the loot. This is fundamentally important for them, there are means and singers.
        Now ---- say goodbye until the evening!
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 07: 44 New
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    which according to some data were assigned in the amount of 14 thousand.

    And there are always more fools in society than smart people!
    1. Rakti-kali 12 March 2019 08: 59 New
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      Quote: kalibr
      And there are always more fools in society than smart people!

      How self-critical you are.
      1. kalibr 12 March 2019 09: 59 New
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        The answer from the kindergarten sandbox.
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          Quote: kalibr
          The answer from the kindergarten sandbox.

          How self-critical you are.
    2. Boris55 12 March 2019 09: 17 New
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      Quote: kalibr
      And there are always more fools in society than smart people!

      Tell me, a stove-setter who puts wonderful stoves, looking at how you do it, can call you a fool?

      There are no fools, there are people out of place and people committing evil deeds.
    3. Lamatinets 12 March 2019 09: 27 New
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      You said directly to yourself, in the first part of your post.
  • Fevralsk. Morev 12 March 2019 08: 03 New
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    The author is silent about the main thing: about the terrible PRICE that was paid by the people for this decade, which was hidden from him and to which he never agreed.

    In China, after the overthrow of the monarchy, there was no collectivization and industrialization. What did the Japanese do in China, you know? The Chinese were lucky that they were liberated by the USSR. They freed and left. If any other country, the USA or England, then so far, there have been military bases. No need to lament the crunch of French rolls about Russia, which we lost. The level of industrial development of the Ros Empire was extremely low. The level of development of the country is assessed by the war. Read the book "50 years in the ranks" of Count Ignatiev. The author served as a military attache in Paris. Through it, everything necessary for the Russian army was purchased. Note for loans. Did you know that the American Winchester rifle was produced under the Russian rifle cartridge and the Mosin rifle with the mark "made in the USA". Famous Ilya Muromets bombers flew on Maybach German engines from downed airships. Lenin performed on an Austin-made English armored car assembled from a kit at the Putilovsky Plant. Name the empire in Ros empire, which produced cargo for vehicles, planes, and tanks. I did not find such information. Tell me. You can talk for a long time, trembling in your voice, that the Empire was on the verge of transformation. This is very similar to the motto of our president, "there is no time for buildup." But with the political impotent Nikolai the Bloody, there would be NO transformations. What did the king do? Read his diary and the memories of his surroundings. He does not look like Peter the Great. So, if the empire was on the verge, it was on the verge of the fate of China.
    1. wooja 12 March 2019 08: 34 New
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      The power of tsarist Russia is somewhat exaggerated, a mixture of statistics and propaganda ..., war, revolution, also did not strengthen the country, but a mess in the leadership and squabbles in the reigning dynasty,
    2. Olgovich 12 March 2019 12: 13 New
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      . The level of industrial development of the Ros Empire was extremely low. Country Development Assessment puts war.

      if so, then given the unprecedented military catastrophes and losses of 41-42, the terrible famine in the Second World War and lack of those in the RI-assessment of the RI are very high. And she, too, did not lose the war (see. General Versailles, and not her own unrecognized Brest))
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      Read the book "50 years in building"Count Ignatiev.

      in which "system" was this parquet sharkun, who has never been in the army, damned for betrayal by his mother and sibling, a real hero?
      who wrote what was ordered to him (and they didn’t write another then or show it)?
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      Name the empire in Ros empire, which produced cargo for vehicles, planes, and tanks. I did not find such information.

      seek and find.
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      You can talk for a long time, trembling in your voice, that the Empire was on the verge of transformation.

      what, in, threshold? Russia, the fourth-fifth economy of the WORLD, ALREADY was, with the fastest growth rate of production, achieved the same results (without BOP) by 1940 as in real life, only WITHOUT millions of victims.
      Quote: Fevralsk. Morev
      But with the political impotent Nikolai the Bloody, there would be NO transformations. What did the king do? Read his diary

      diary from the so-called Pravda newspapers - read for yourself. The king built ten thousand schools a year. When did you manage to catch up and make up for the lost 10 years? And also built the most ambitious construction of the world at that time - the Trans-Siberian Railway. how much did the smaller BAM torture?
      you couldn’t even build it longer than its bridge — and this is in 70 years! ka and not one battleship .....
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 08: 12 New
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    Yenin spoke on the English production of Austin

    On the Garford ...
    1. Moore 12 March 2019 08: 48 New
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      Quote: kalibr

      On the Garford ...

      https://news.rambler.ru/science/11714159-kuda-devalsya-bronevik-lenina-sankt-peterburgskie-vedomosti-sankt-peterburg/
      "Leninsky" had its own special signs.
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        He would have fallen from Austin ...
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 10: 36 New
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    Do you think that at the end of 80's, the peoples of the USSR got excited about the idea of ​​creating a capitalist state?

    Did not catch fire, but went where necessary. The people are grass, shaken by the wind. It is only necessary to properly "blow."
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      We’ve definitely gone where it is necessary or still not there
      ?
  • Gardamir 12 March 2019 10: 53 New
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    In principle, one header is enough. Stalin is truly the creator of a new reality.
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    yah? Putin is his heir, as Stalin erased the Leninist Guard, so Putin erased the oligarchy

    Thanks, laughed lol wassat
    1. Cheslav Tsursky 12 March 2019 11: 51 New
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      You were amused by the fact that Stalin physically destroyed all of Lenin’s encirclement, including their entourage and their entourage, but Putin didn’t do this and removed the oligarchs from power EQUIPPED ?! Do you need to pose funny faces or do you understand the question without them?
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 11: 38 New
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    the elite sold the Socialist Fatherland, and since the fierce Trotskyite Khrushchev

    Elite from Mars!
  • BAI
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    Without developed engineering and heavy industry, death awaited Russia. Strong and dangerous enemies for backward agrarian Russia were not even such great powers as Germany and Japan, but Poland and Finland.

    There is such a culturological version that the United States helped (for decent pay) in industrializing the "hated" USSR at the rate of fomenting a future war in Europe, with which the United States, as in the first world war, would remove all the cream, driving all the competitors to ruin.
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    On the Garford ...

    On this machine, a three-inch was installed in the back. During the speech of Lenin, I did not see (gun).
    1. kalibr 12 March 2019 13: 44 New
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      During Lenin's speech, I did not see

      Did you attend his performance at the Finland Station? Congratulations!!!
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 14: 18 New
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    in the back was installed three-inch

    Not in the back, but in the tower, He was on it, and maybe on the casemate roof, he was standing!
  • kalibr 12 March 2019 14: 54 New
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    Tell me, a stove-setter who puts wonderful stoves, looking at how you do it, can call you a fool?

    Can! But I can lead him to the barricades, but he me - no!
    1. Andrey VOV 13 March 2019 10: 34 New
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      And if the stove-maker does not want to go to the barricades and you into the furnace for such calls?
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    There is such a culturological version that the United States helped (for decent pay) in industrializing the "hated" USSR at the rate of fomenting a future war in Europe, with which the United States, as in the first world war, would remove all the cream, driving all the competitors to ruin.

    I also read about it and, judging by the results, it was so!
    1. Corsair5912 12 March 2019 16: 40 New
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      In the 30's, an economic crisis called the Great Depression erupted in Western countries. Stalin brilliantly played on this, buying cheaply whole technological lines and plants along with specialists. For the United States, this was a significant help to overcome the crisis, and for the USSR the opportunity to spend years, not decades, on industrialization. During the 3 incomplete five-year period from 1929 to 1942, 9000 large industrial enterprises were built.
      http://www.great-country.ru/articles/sssr/sov/00125.html
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        For the US, this was a significant help to overcome the crisis,

        a drop in the sea.
        moreover, these plants were built in the United States, then disassembled and mounted again in the USSR. and no one in the US of this didn't even notice-unusual work, one of hundreds of similar
        Quote: Corsair5912
        From 1929 to 1942, 9000 large industrial enterprises were built.

        List them. This nonsense is propaganda - there is no such list.
        1. Corsair5912 14 March 2019 15: 35 New
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          Who told you that for the USA it was a drop? You probably don’t know that the USA of the 30 of the 20 of the century and the USA of the 21 of the century are not comparable in scale of production.
          The list of all enterprises built in the USSR, and not only under Stalin, is in the Directories of the ministries of the USSR, with all the parameters, under the headings "secret" and "Sov. Secret." I had access to the reference books of the USSR International Center for Information Management for official needs; I worked for years in the MCM system for 18.
          The list of mining enterprises is available in several open publications for specialists, for example, the 3's tomnik "Ore deposits of the USSR" and others.
      2. Andrey VOV 13 March 2019 10: 33 New
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        I do not agree that factories were bought on the cheap .. oh not cheap
  • Corsair5912 12 March 2019 16: 33 New
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    The memory of the people is more objective than the writings of the anti-Stalinists; over the 65 years of Stalin’s slander, his rating in Russia has only increased.
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    for 65 years of desecration of Stalin, his rating in Russia has only increased

    Among whom?
  • Alexander Greene 13 March 2019 00: 58 New
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    Minus the article, the article is written superficially, the author is too frivolously scattered with sayings like “The Red Monarch”, “the gold reserve ... is plundered ... by the red commissars ...”, makes unsubstantiated statements like:

    1. "... in the USSR of the 20s, not a single large-scale industrial or transport project was implemented ..."

    Did the author not hear anything about the GOELRO plan?
    This was the first unified state perspective plan for the development of the national economy of Soviet Russia based on the electrification of the country, developed in 1920. Did the author as a child not read a book about Lenin - “A Trip to Kashino”, where they opened one of the first power plants, or a film about the engineer Graftio, who built the Volkhov and Svir hydroelectric stations in those years

    The GOELRO plan provided for the construction of 30 regional power plants (20 TPPs and 10 HPPs) with a total capacity of 1,75 million kW. He played a huge role in the life of our country: without him, it would hardly have been possible to withdraw the USSR in such a short time to the number of the most industrialized countries in the world.

    2. “The former large farms (landlords) were defeated, new ones could not be created»

    The author forgot that the first state farms and communes were created on the basis of landed estates. Model Soviet farms began to be created immediately after the Great October Socialist Revolution. On the night of October 26 (November 8), 1917, the Second Congress of Soviets of Workers 'and Soldiers' Deputies, after the Peace Decree, adopted the Land Decree. By decree on land, the first state farms were created on the basis of part of the confiscated landowner estates. By 1922, 4316 state farms were organized on the territory of the USSR with a land area of ​​3324 thousand hectares.
    1. Andrey VOV 13 March 2019 10: 32 New
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      1. Plan GOERLO accept December 20, the end of the bulk of 31 years, i.e. implementation of its provisions. It is also necessary to be more precise, but the line finally went powerful, but part of the stations were built on the basis of those already laid down before VOSR.
      2.Well, 3 million hectares are a drop in the ocean ... and in the midst of the Civil War, it certainly wasn’t before the creation of a massive state farm ..
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        ., the end in the bulk of 31 years, i.e. implementation of its provisions. It is also necessary to be more precise, but the line finally went powerful, but part of the stations were built on the basis of those already laid down before VOSR.

        I clarify: Kashinskaya TPP was built in 1920, Kashirskaya GRES - in 1922, Shaturskaya TPP - in 1925, Volkhovskaya TPP - in 1927 .....
        Quote: Andrey VOV
        Well, agree, 3 million hectares are a drop in the ocean ... and in the midst of the Civil War, it certainly wasn’t before the creation of mass state farms ..

        By 1928 there were already 5000 state farms, the gross production of bread at state farms in 1927, according to the Central Statistical Bureau, was at least 45 million poods with a marketability of 65%, which amounted to about 10% of all grain procurements.
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      That's right, there is a list of energy facilities built in the 20's
      http://istmat.info/node/51647
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    10% of all grain procurements.

    Well, if 10, then a lot, of course. Next to 90 ...
  • kalibr 14 March 2019 07: 55 New
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    The top commanders of the Red Army shot - 77%, middle command personnel - 73%, kombrigov - 55%, regimental team - 90%, divisions - 68%, commander - 90%, commanders 1 of rank - 50%. 3 marshal, both rank 1 military commissars ... In total, 454 people were shot from the top commanders of the Red Army from 350. This information is well known. [/ Quote]
    Just something ... How little ... only three marshals from 5, because not all the same ... Now, if all ...
    1. Andrey VOV 14 March 2019 08: 22 New
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      What are you in any commentary on these numbers? Like a mantra constantly
    2. Corsair5912 14 March 2019 15: 43 New
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      Bullshit. In fact, no significant effect of army cleaning on the number and quality of command personnel was affected, the effect was positive, the army got rid of drunkards and mediocrity.
    3. Alexander Greene 14 March 2019 23: 41 New
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      [quote = kalibr] In total, out of 454 senior command personnel of the Red Army, 350 people were executed. This information is well known. [/ Quote]
      Just something ... How little ... only three of the 5 marshals, after all, not all the same ... Now, if all ... [/ quote]

      If all repressed commanders are considered innocent, then these figures look impressive, but we must not forget that there was a conspiracy in the army, no one denies this. The conspiracy was discovered on time, and all who had any relation to it were arrested or dismissed. And this is normal. Ahead of the war, and having a fifth column inside the army is dangerous. Remember Spain, Chile and other examples where the army came out of submission to the political leadership, and how it all ended.

      Unfortunately, the archives of these cases are closed today, and the cases have been thoroughly cleaned, for example, operational materials are mostly destroyed, and it is they who bear the main charges, and not the protocols of the investigators.

      Of course, they were innocently convicted, but many of them were sorted out and released. Moreover, the destruction and dismissal from the army of many commanders was carried out on a signal from Feldman, the “comrade-in-arms” of the plot of Tukhachevsky, who put special marks on the personal files of the military, who supported the line of the Bolshevik party, signals for the local conspirators from the NKVD who then arrested them.

      Therefore, I repeat once again that the time will come, and these cases will be studied by a special commission of lawyers and historians who are not fixated on anti-Sovietism and anti-communism, and will give all of them an objective assessment.
  • M. Michelson 14 March 2019 09: 19 New
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    The author is raving. Stalin did not create a new reality, he rehabilitated tsarism (i.e., the old) more. There was no such corruption as in the post-war USSR, even under Brezhnev.
    The new reality was created by the Soviet people born of the October Revolution. He did everything. But someone had to lead. So Stalin did this.
  • Maverick1812 14 March 2019 10: 20 New
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    Soviet cities were drowning in poverty, street children, and unemployment. The dominance of the bureaucracy, which was experiencing a new flourishing, the decline in the quality of management led to an increase in officialdom. The criminal world flourished. The chaos of two wars (world and civil), a revolution led to a criminal revolution. NEP created an economic and social base for crime. In 1920, a whole wave of theft and fraud took place. Suffice it to recall the famous novel “The Golden Calf” by Ilf and Petrov. There was a link of corrupt bureaucracy, the party-state, economic apparatus with the criminal world. A similar picture will occur in the country during the late Gorbachev and early 1990-s.

    Just like now ....
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    Ask any psychiatrist of any country, any religion, nationality about how to relate to a person who, even with the best of intentions, organized the extermination of hundreds of thousands, millions of citizens of his country .. The doctor’s diagnosis will be unambiguous - it’s a maniac .. Ask the same lawyer, Yes, supplement it with a question - how to consider those who cover and advertise crimes against humanity - the answer will be unequivocal - these are accomplices of a crime .. And it doesn’t matter how the names of those who are involved in this sound - Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Paul P m etc. etc. Oska has already filled tales that “he took the country with a plow, left with an atomic bomb”, etc. Disgust is caused by those who are trying to wash the long-suffering history of our people out of the consciousness of the people ... Those "friends of the people" that by 1991 had ruined the country, handed out, sold, plundered everything that was the wealth of the people to their loved ones, are now fulfilling the task of the State Department: to dump Putin, to ruin Russia, to create a "revolutionary situation" .. One of the instruments is the glorification of the Stalinist regime, which destroyed entire estates, classes, who were responsible for the millions of losses of the country in the first months and years of the Second World War ... And for these patriots the main ones will win Mademoiselle - "the best friend of athletes' names generals, marshals, officers pulled out a victory that gave their lives, the ability to crush the Nazi machine almost never called .. About the exploits of the people, those who gave their lives they say even less. Separately, we need to remember the fate of the disabled, who were brought as unnecessary equipment to Solovki, under the protection of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. The patriot of his country is not the one who praises the Fuhrer. sings only about the bright days of life, but who remembers and honors all the pages of the history of our people. And the attempts of the current "Leninists-Stalinists" to wash out of the consciousness and memory of the people about the nameless grave mounds of the camp graves. Goebbels lie, slander of A.I. Solzhenitsyna once again confirms that if the communists are screaming someone, this person is worthy ... His life credo "living not by lies" is not for the Zyugaykins, Suraiks and the like.
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      Quote: Griol
      defamation of A.I. Solzhenitsyn once again confirms - if the communists are frightening someone, this person is worthy ... His life credo is "to live not by lies"

      If you consider the Solzhenitsyn Gulag Archipelago to be the pinnacle of truth, then I pity you. Do you really believe in his fables that "a brigade that does not fulfill a plan can be driven into a fire and burned there"? And there are no such inventions in the Solzhenitsyn libel.