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Indian opposition demands to disclose the results of the bombing of Pakistan

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A few days after the bombing of the Pakistani territory by airplanes of the Indian Air Force, questions arose from the Indian opposition to the country's defense ministry. The Indian media write that oppositionists in parliament note the courage and heroism shown by Indian pilots, including Abhinandan Varthamman, who was captured and then released by Pakistani authorities. At the same time, the opposition is trying to achieve from the military command whether there is at least some positive result of the bombing that was carried out with the use of Mirage-2000 French aircraft made by Israeli-made SPICE-2000 bombs.


Indian opposition demands to disclose the results of the bombing of Pakistan


We are talking about blows inflicted by the Indian Air Force on Balakot, where, as previously reported, there is a training camp of the terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammad.

Representatives of the opposition forces in India say that it is time for the country's government to declassify the results of the operation, which was carried out at the end of February, and which was a response to the terrorist act in Kashmir. In particular, there were demands to open satellite images.

To date, satellite images available to the Indian Ministry of Defense, classified. It is known that the Indian Air Force 26 February aircraft entered the airspace of Pakistan to a depth of 20 km, and the operation lasted about 19 minutes. The targets were several buildings that were allegedly owned by the militants.

Meanwhile, in the media in India, loyal to the government, it says "about the imminent possible recognition of an accurate target failure." Thus, it was alleged that the SPICE-2000 aerial bomb hit one of the structures. It is argued that evidence of this fact is a "hole in the roof." Then the question was asked: why did the building survive in that case?

Answer:

The Spice-2000 warhead does not necessarily destroy the entire structure that it strikes.


Gives an example from previously held exercises:



At the same time there is no photo footage from 26 February.

Recall that on the eve, other photos were published in the foreign media with reference to the Australian Research Institute ASPI, the signatures of which claimed that the SPICE-2000 bombs could not hit targets, breaking off at a distance from 150 to 200 m from them.



Meanwhile, in the loyal government newspapers of India it is said that all the exact data on the results of the operation "may still not be presented, since at the time of the operation the clouds closed the view for the Indian satellite." And after that, as stated, Pakistan "could have restored the destroyed buildings of Balakot".
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  1. Destiny
    Destiny 4 March 2019 08: 03
    +1
    At the same time, the opposition is trying to get from the military command if there is at least some positive result of the bombing that was carried out using Mirage-2000 airplanes of French production of Israeli-made SPICE-2000 bombs.
    By the way, yes, I also did not find the answer to this question anywhere ... And then it’s not serious
    So, allegedly hit SPICE-2000 air bombs in one of the structures. It is alleged that evidence of this fact is the “hole in the roof”.
    So "was there a boy" -The question was immediately asked: why did the building survive in this case...?
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 4 March 2019 08: 14
      +8
      The people in this building turned out to be advisers from China and they managed to dismantle the bomb before it was supposed to detonate.
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 4 March 2019 12: 18
        -1
        From something I remembered "Cabal saint"

        Louis. Archbishop, I have something here, they demand.
        Sharron. Sorry, sovereign. He is obviously crazy today. I didn’t know. It's my fault.
        Louis (into space). Duke, if not difficult, put Father Bartholomew for three months in prison.
    2. poquello
      poquello 4 March 2019 08: 24
      +3
      Quote: Destiny
      At the same time, the opposition is trying to get from the military command if there is at least some positive result of the bombing that was carried out using Mirage-2000 airplanes of French production of Israeli-made SPICE-2000 bombs.
      By the way, yes, I also did not find the answer to this question anywhere ... And then it’s not serious
      So, allegedly hit SPICE-2000 air bombs in one of the structures. It is alleged that evidence of this fact is the “hole in the roof”.
      So "was there a boy" -The question was immediately asked: why did the building survive in this case...?

      don’t worry, all bombs fly into the chimney, it’s a hole in the roof
    3. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 4 March 2019 08: 29
      +3
      Quote: Destiny
      So "was there a boy" -The question was asked: why did the building survive in this case ...?

      India doesn’t wage war, there’s nothing to develop skills on. Moreover, bidding for the purchase of weapons is a priority for them. Hence, such combat readiness, and cheaper means worse. So this is a bell for the defense of India.
  2. bondrostov
    bondrostov 4 March 2019 08: 08
    +2
    So the symptoms of discontinuity of troops are manifested. French planes Israeli bombs. And in the event of war, this will prove itself more than once, although India is stronger than Pakistan at times. But this time there could well be an agreement IMHO
    1. letinant
      letinant 4 March 2019 08: 32
      +5
      The problem of the Indian army is not so much the diversity of technology. The main problem of the caste is that really talented representatives of society cannot break through the ranks.
      This is also evident in the Arab countries, the UAE, Qatar, etc. They are assigned the rank of officer by birth, so it’s not interesting to study and improve themselves. Fly on an airplane 1000km / h, that's the thing! And the use in battle is scary.
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 4 March 2019 08: 35
        +1
        Quote: letinant
        They are assigned the rank of officer by birth

        Well, I honestly didn’t know that everything was so neglected there.
        Well, troop training is at least half the battle, or even 60%, but only 40 vehicles
        1. letinant
          letinant 4 March 2019 08: 41
          +3
          It's not about learning, but about the desire to learn. Among the representatives of the higher castes, there are smart people who become good professionals. But most work according to the principle, radar light, throw bombs in every direction and carry out "Operation PEAS".
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 4 March 2019 09: 24
      +2
      this time could well be an agreement IMHO

      What kind of contract are you talking about? Under the agreement there would be no downed planes and dead.
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 4 March 2019 09: 27
        0
        Quote: alexmach
        Under the agreement there would be no downed planes and dead.

        Not everything could go according to plan! And so it turns out that freefalling with the PE-8 and then the CVO would be less.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 March 2019 08: 10
    0
    The paper sword scandal is gaining momentum. Now everyone will be raised - and who for how much, and how many "rolled back" wassat
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 March 2019 08: 23
      +2
      There are a lot of questions of a different nature there, and this is also an information war.
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 4 March 2019 09: 22
        +1
        It’s clear that nothing is clear laughing
        The most valuable and most important thing in all that happened is that the conflict did not develop.
        And information wars - well, where without them.
        It's like a joke about Napoleon, which was brought to life by talented scientists: - he is shown tanks, planes, ships, he is delighted. They ask: as if with such weapons, fought. He thought and said: of course I would have defeated everyone, then thought again, and said: and if I had lost, thanks to your newspapers and television, no one would have known about this))))

        So now, there is so much information, and it is so contradictory that truth is drowning in it.
  4. Professor
    Professor 4 March 2019 08: 12
    +1
    Information war. Round 3.
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 March 2019 08: 24
      +3
      Yes, and without the possession of information weapons, even a small battle cannot be won.
    2. Tusv
      Tusv 4 March 2019 10: 14
      -1
      Quote: Professor
      Information war. Round 3.

      Anasha is more fun than spice. IW this is with Us with the West, and there are Elections with candidates on the Cord
  5. Cowbra
    Cowbra 4 March 2019 08: 25
    -1
    Well, as always, that's why she’s a pop ... How to meet epaulettes - not them, but to criticize ...
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 4 March 2019 10: 24
      -1
      Quote: Cowbra
      Well, as always, she’s also a pop-singer ...

      And the current government blasphemes our Indira Gandhi
  6. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 4 March 2019 08: 51
    -1
    That is, the Ministry of Defense of India itself does not know what happened more than a week ago.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 4 March 2019 09: 31
      +4
      Quote: Lamatinets
      That is, the Ministry of Defense of India itself does not know what happened more than a week ago.

      That’s what the real opposition in a democratic country is good for, that it can take the executive branch by the trunk and drag it to a hearing at least for a sitting in parliament in a relevant committee. And it will be difficult for the executive branch to take a break stupidly secretive of his jamb.
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 4 March 2019 11: 36
        -1
        It seems that the opposition is unhappy that the budget funds for the destruction of the militants were spent inefficiently, and even with military losses. repeat
      2. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 4 March 2019 13: 10
        +4
        Say exactly, but we have neither the opposition nor the trunks (since there are no elephants in Russia)))
  7. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 4 March 2019 09: 52
    0
    It looks like a joke:
    - Yesterday they say a man from the bridge fell and died.
    - Does anyone know the details?
    - Yes I know. He came up and jumped. While flying it was still alive, and as it fell, it died at once.
    Nothing even comes to mind request
  8. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 4 March 2019 10: 02
    +3
    SPICE-2000 bombs were unable to hit targets, exploding at a distance of 150 to 200 m from them.

    Of course, you can blame everything on Krivorukov Indians, but 150-200 m is very far from the stated accuracy of 3 m for Israeli bombs SPICE-2000.
  9. Ascetic
    Ascetic 4 March 2019 10: 02
    +4
    For bombs of this class, the original intelligence input into the computer's memory of the SPICE weapon system is very important. When planning a task, in the air or on the ground, target data, including the coordinates of the target, the angle of the meeting with the target, azimuth, visualization data, and topographic data are used to generate a flight mission for each target that the pilot sends to each bomb before it is dropped. If a jamb occurred at this stage, then the bomb itself at the homing stage simply will not be able to correct a useful scenario
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 4 March 2019 12: 04
      +1
      Quote: Ascetic
      For bombs of this class, the original intelligence input into the computer's memory of the SPICE weapon system is very important. When planning a task, in the air or on the ground, target data, including the coordinates of the target, the angle of the meeting with the target, azimuth, visualization data, and topographic data are used to generate a flight mission for each target that the pilot sends to each bomb before it is dropped. If a jamb occurred at this stage, then the bomb itself at the homing stage simply will not be able to correct a useful scenario

      That’s why I wrote that - you can blame everything on the crooked Indians. The question is what is Kashmir. I don’t think that Indians have unexplored goals there or, in general, they don’t know the situation on the spot. Could, of course, mess up with the introduction of task data into weapons control systems or somewhere else, but taking into account the control of the issue of the operation at the level of the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi - I do not think that everything was so bad that we did not find out the goals. Although, of course, everything can be ...
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 March 2019 10: 07
    +1
    ... evidence of this (hit) is the “hole in the roof”
    This is what a "smart" Israeli bomb from a French Indian Air Force fighter means - penetrated the building through the roof, destroyed everyone, and left the building to the winner. Who will tell the opposition the truth if, moreover, they missed?
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 4 March 2019 12: 11
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This is what a "smart" Israeli bomb from a French Indian Air Force fighter means - penetrated the building through the roof, destroyed everyone, and left the building to the winner. Who will tell the opposition the truth if, moreover, they missed?

      I also had a question: how can a building remain intact if a bomb with almost 1 ton of explosive hits it? Namely, such information is distributed by the Israeli newspaper The Times of Israel https://www.timesofisrael.com/india-used-israeli-arms-for-strike-inside-pakistan-report/
      Of course, depending on the modification, there may be a bomb mass of this system that can be from 113 to 907 kg, but 113 kg is also worthless.
      1. Lamatinets
        Lamatinets 4 March 2019 13: 12
        +1
        This is an Israeli explosive.
  11. brr1
    brr1 4 March 2019 13: 18
    +2
    Spice-2000 weighs per ton, even if only 50% of this mass is in explosives, this is already ~ 500 kg of explosives. And just a hole in the roof ???? Yes, these are two FAB-500s in one place.
  12. vasiliysxx
    vasiliysxx 4 March 2019 17: 57
    +1
    "Rest in peace, Su-30, - a photo with a little boy who holds a sign with this text went to social networks. - We sympathize with our Russian friends. You have given a very capable fighter into the hands of incapable monkeys."

    Something the photo is not loading repeat
    1. SASHA OLD
      SASHA OLD 4 March 2019 19: 20
      0
      Quote: vasiliysxx
      Something the photo is not loading


      this photo ..?)
      through pikaba could load
      1. vasiliysxx
        vasiliysxx 4 March 2019 22: 50
        +1
        Yes thank you.
  13. LAWNER
    LAWNER 4 March 2019 19: 23
    0
    Let the opposition go down to Pakistan and check it. It seems that they’ll stuff their faces, but they won’t return them as a pilot.
  14. razved
    razved 4 March 2019 22: 02
    0
    The opposition decided to compete for power, to the sly ...
  15. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 4 March 2019 23: 11
    0
    they have thrown a rupee full of bedlams, tell me where? Maybe even better than ours ...
    ps we do not know how our rubles are walking!
  16. YOUR
    YOUR 5 March 2019 14: 41
    -1
    I understand that the opposition is outraged by the poor preparation of the army.
    What can I say good opposition, right