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L.Ivashov: “NATO is predators who constantly want human victims”

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L.Ivashov: “NATO is predators who constantly want human victims”Laurent Fabius (French Foreign Minister. - Approx. KM.RU) should pay attention to history. What France has done with its NATO allies, Libya, is murder. Destroyed Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ... These are predators who constantly want human sacrifice, so they are now targeting Syria, Iran, etc. And the fact that France does not agree with the position of Russia is natural because they are trying to set their own standards of aggressors for all mankind, and those who resist it are declared enemies. I think it's good that the French official declares Russia, in fact, his enemy. It is possible that some high-ranking officials will sober up in our power.

Already bursting at the seams of the operation to destroy the Syrian state

Unfortunately, events will evolve according to the plans of the operation, which was conceived in Washington, and carried out by NATO. However, what happened a few days ago in Beijing, at the summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, shows that China, Russia, India and other SCO countries do not just condemn, but actively resist. Therefore, the operation to destroy the Syrian state is already bursting at the seams, and in a panic they are beginning to look for new enemies and new ways of loosening and overthrowing the stable Syrian regime. I repeat, they panic, and Moscow needs firmness and determination. We must spit in the direction of the US State Department. They are trying to accuse us of something, to threaten sanctions against our companies, but we just need to spit and end the conversation with them.

Meanwhile, Assad behaves as he should behave. This is supported by the majority of the people. There is a clear external interference in domestic political events in Syria. I witnessed this when Bashar Asad proposed a large reform project, and the ambassadors of the United States and France rushed into the city of Homs and publicly urged the opposition not to make contact, not to discuss the project, etc.

I would after such statements have limited political and diplomatic activities with France

Last June, I was just sitting by Bashar Assad. We sat, talked, and they report to him that the ambassadors of France and the United States, contrary to all international norms, the Geneva Conventions, rushed there without anyone’s permission and publicly speaking there, campaigning not to compromise and not to seek stability. Everything! Explicit intervention. The special services are detaining a group of militants, and the French ambassador rushes with the words that French servicemen have been detained. How did they get there? .. Further: now France and Europe as a whole are allocating new millions of euros to supporting the opposition. What does this mean? It is simply an intervention to maintain and develop the civil war.

Will the Assad regime last? I think, yes, if the Shanghai Cooperation Organization will now be actively working and launching a diplomatic offensive. There is no need to justify that we are doing something wrong, but we need to convene the UN Security Council, demand consideration of the issue of the violation of international peace by the United States, France and other NATO members, that is, make them justify themselves. Today, they accuse all those who do not want war, and thereby assert their rightness, and they need to be exposed and put before humanity exactly as aggressors, as those who violate the Charter of the United Nations. They are doing everything to explode another state and the arc of instability has become global. We need to blame them.

Now, after such statements, I would limit political and diplomatic activities with France. Return them "Mistrali", and they let them return the money for it, and so on.
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  1. Armata
    Armata 18 June 2012 12: 25
    +31
    I absolutely agree. Just do not spit in their direction, but definitely in their eyes. And France, too, put in an uncomfortable position, I will only be for it.
    1. Middle-brother
      Middle-brother 18 June 2012 12: 32
      +15
      Less looking back and listening to the opinions of our European and overseas "friends". And there would be more active actions on our part.
    2. Kars
      Kars 18 June 2012 12: 32
      +10
      NATO will fall apart in the coming years. Why should the European Union harness the problems of the US world gendarme. There are already those who are dissatisfied with German foreign policy.
      So soon there will be a European collective defense and the United States separately.
      1. give
        give 18 June 2012 12: 49
        -24
        Mr. Assad had to think with his own head BEFORE the beginning of the active phase of the conflict, it was he who needed to try to negotiate with everyone in order to maintain his power! And now he blames someone ...
        So it is not necessary to buy luxury goods in Paris and London by wagons, but to share a little with their own citizens, perhaps this will somehow mitigate the 30-year state of emergency in which the people of Syria are.
        Elections had to be held BEFORE the conflict, and in the honesty and openness of these elections, Assad had to set an example for the entire Arab East! Put at least a bunch of observers and video cameras in every section, so that no one would have a drop of doubt.
        But then the question would be: how can the Alawites, who are in the minority in the country, retain power? If the elections are fair, the Sunni majority will naturally win. And this is where this hysterical tale of "external" interference begins ...
        The trivial struggle for HIS POWER is a minority sect in a country with a Sunni majority.
        Yes, and where does Assad get such money from, does the people of Syria live like in Qatar?
        It was necessary to divide before, now the fate of Gaddafi looms in front of his nose - to hide in the sewer and then get a bayonet in one place
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 18 June 2012 14: 03
          +7
          Quote: dea
          But then the question would be: how can the Alawites, who are in the minority in the country, retain power? If the elections are fair, the Sunni majority will naturally win. And this is where this hysterical tale of "external" interference begins ...
          The trivial struggle for HIS POWER is a minority sect in a country with a Sunni majority.

          - what is the majority of Sunnis? Alawites + Christians, of whom are above the roof in Syria + Shiites, of whom in Syria are also above the roof - are you sure that Assad would have lost? This is the first thing. Second, what do you care about the elections in Syria? Their internal problems, why are you climbing? No, it's definitely time to get involved in Israel's affairs. Something there the top is very corrupt, in Ukraine, thanks to the Israeli top, organ trade has been put on a stream method and, at the same time, no investigations have been made, it has only been possible to detain the heads of the direct executors. It's time, it's time. Since you are interfering, let us also put things in order with you. How else. And occupy Wall Street, too, must be declared by the will of the majority and help abundantly, especially since you are already actively helping the Russian "occupants", although we had
          Quote: dea
          a bunch of observers and video cameras, so that no one would have a drop of doubt.

          - and therefore there was convincing evidence that we have very few dogs and daredevils.
          Quote: dea
          It was necessary to divide before, now the fate of Gaddafi looms in front of his nose - to hide in the sewer and then get a bayonet in one place

          - Gaddafi shared, take the trouble to read the social options of the deceased Libyan Jamahiriya, it did not help. Here, sharing has nothing to do with it, no need to pass off wishful thinking. There are almost no Syrians there, Libyan thugs mostly act. Regular mercenaries. Whose money is it hired for? Here in this article, it is not even hiding whose ears are sticking out behind all this. Rubini outlined the simplicity of his heart, why are you making excuses here, as if Assad himself is to blame? What does Assad have to do with "sharing him?"
          1. 77bor1973
            77bor1973 18 June 2012 23: 17
            0
            This is when you have a not very legitimate business, and the roof you have is not a frail police rank, but when higher authorities come to take you, this roof is full of holes! So with Assad, it makes no sense to pay!
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 18 June 2012 19: 32
          +1
          give,
          He thought how a decent person began to resist you. Well, an honest man can’t watch how with impunity the gringos are violent against the peoples.
        3. 1st_user
          1st_user 18 June 2012 20: 20
          +2
          Mr. Assad had to think with his own head BEFORE the beginning of the active phase of the conflict, it was he who needed to try to negotiate with everyone in order to maintain his power! And now he blames someone ...
          So it is not necessary to buy luxury goods in Paris and London by wagons, but to share a little with their own citizens, perhaps this will somehow mitigate the 30-year state of emergency in which the people of Syria are.
          Elections had to be held BEFORE the conflict, and in the honesty and openness of these elections, Assad had to set an example for the entire Arab East! Put at least a bunch of observers and video cameras in every section, so that no one would have a drop of doubt.
          But then the question would be: how can the Alawites, who are in the minority in the country, retain power? If the elections are fair, the Sunni majority will naturally win. And this is where this hysterical tale of "external" interference begins ...
          The trivial struggle for HIS POWER is a minority sect in a country with a Sunni majority.
          Yes, and where does Assad get such money from, does the people of Syria live like in Qatar?
          It was necessary to divide before, now the fate of Gaddafi looms in front of his nose - to hide in the sewer and then get a bayonet in one place

          What is that dull stuffing?
      2. VAF
        VAF 18 June 2012 16: 20
        +3
        Quote: Kars
        NATO will fall apart in the coming years.


        Andrey, greetings, +! I would like to believe it, but NATO's prilipaly. Hope that they will get something from the owners and as long as there are "undeveloped" countries of the Middle East, NATO will exist, because. alone any member of NATO is ... a bubble!
      3. 755962
        755962 18 June 2012 19: 44
        +2
        Quote: Kars
        NATO will collapse in coming years

        A matter of time: the scare story about the threat of Russia from NATO has lost relevance. Events in Libya showed the military insolvency of the alliance. Having supported the rebels, and in fact, unleashed a war against the Socialist Jamahiriya, the French, the British and others like them soon realized that they actually had nothing to fight. Former US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who criticized NATO and predicted the collapse of the alliance, blames the reluctance of heads of state to spend money on military operations.
    3. Fox 070
      Fox 070 18 June 2012 12: 43
      +7
      Quote: Steam Train
      And France, too, put in an uncomfortable position

      Quite right, bend lower so that the Mistrals go deeper and, within the framework of the Russian-French friendship of the Cossacks, send them to ride the Champs Elysees. am
    4. FiremanRS
      FiremanRS 18 June 2012 13: 01
      +2
      +100500 article !!!!!!!!!!!!!! This should be done without looking back at the "world community". They are too accustomed to deciding human destinies without having the right to do so. We and our allies can live perfectly and self-sufficient without them.
      1. father tudy-syudy
        father tudy-syudy 18 June 2012 13: 07
        -15
        FiremanRS - "We and our allies can live perfectly and self-sufficient without them." - and who are your allies with whom you can live without the entire civilized world, please tell me? ...
        1. Fox 070
          Fox 070 18 June 2012 13: 16
          +6
          Quote: Father Tudy-syudy
          and who are your allies

          Not those with whom you are in the same dovecote.
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 18 June 2012 13: 33
            +4
            Russia has two allies - the army and navy.
            Who said is known?

            That's it.
            One sixth of the land, the Arctic, uh, uh, what to list.
            On a large scale, Russia is within the borders of the empire - the globe is not needed in FIG.
            And the problems ... of the ball. Let him even become a tetrahedron.
            Put on it with the appliance.

            And, please, don’t need about ...... cars, computers ... etc. etc.

            Peoples who have completed their own world order - and must work and create.
            For those who own the spirit.
            1. father tudy-syudy
              father tudy-syudy 18 June 2012 14: 37
              -9
              Igarr
              and how can the integral institutions of the state be its allies? Are your hands allies to you? laughing
              1. wulf66
                wulf66 18 June 2012 17: 12
                +1
                Is it really not at all friendly?
              2. Igarr
                Igarr 18 June 2012 19: 04
                +1
                I answer ...
                "..batska tudy-syudy GB Today, 14:37

                Igarr
                and how the inalienable institutions of the state can be its allies? Are your hands allies to you? "

                And here, even if it’s impolite to ask, I’ll ask nevertheless .... father, is he from Russia? Or at least, is there one of the Russians in the broad sense?
                Something within the meaning of the question, I realized that the deep thought did not reach.
                That is not what I said. This is the emperor of Russia, said Alexander III.
                The peasantry is a backbone. And hands - like operating units.

                And that’s all.
                And on the part of the hands ... and their alliance - just remember childhood. Growing up boys.
                And questions will disappear.
                Right away.
              3. Sandov
                Sandov 18 June 2012 19: 30
                +2
                But father tudy-syudy,
                Why rude gringo, do it yourself in a secluded place.
              4. 11Goor11
                11Goor11 18 June 2012 19: 34
                +2
                father tudy-syudy
                Igarr
                and how can the integral institutions of the state be its allies? Are your hands allies to you?

                For example, I am friends with my head, and try to control myself ...
                Something like this. What I wish for you, and given your statements of the king in your head, is not observed.
            2. Neighbor
              Neighbor 18 June 2012 16: 14
              +4
              Quote: Igarr
              Russia has two allies - the army and navy. Who said, is it known?

              yes good drinks
              Quote: Father Tudy-syudy
              and who are your allies with whom you can live without the whole civilized world

              Why .... do we need your "civilized world"? Russia, the USSR, and Russia, in general, has always been a mountain for itself. And all the rest ... gays ... and such ghouls like you - tried, try and will try to devour her. am
              Toko .... all of you !!! am Tell this to all your "civilized" world and your Amer idols. am
              On .... we all of you and all your Natu saw and spit in Popenhagen through Rotrdam !!! am laughing am
              Glory to Russia!!! drinks
        2. FiremanRS
          FiremanRS 18 June 2012 13: 35
          +4
          Do you need to list current and future allies? I'm afraid that there is not a single member of NATO. And besides everything else, my dear, who are you now calling civilized ????
          1. father tudy-syudy
            father tudy-syudy 18 June 2012 14: 35
            -11
            firemanRS,
            Anukas listed the allies of Russia in the world, I write laughing
            1. FiremanRS
              FiremanRS 18 June 2012 15: 00
              +2
              M.ch. I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft so that you could poke me. This is the time. Two, you did not answer my question, so why should I answer yours?
            2. Common sense
              Common sense 19 June 2012 01: 25
              -3
              Tajikistan, North Korea, Syria, Hezbollah, Iran and Zimbabwe.
        3. Yura
          Yura 18 June 2012 15: 47
          +4
          Quote: Father Tudy-syudy
          without the whole civilized world,
          Is it you civilization, who told you this, thought of it to yourself and then believed it, it’s you and your kind that destroy the oldest civilization in the world of the East, and Syria is not the first state you want to end with, your alphabet, writing , the number and mathematics are borrowed from there, and you are the same civilization, but you were a cannibalistic tribe and you are left to consider writing just having learned.
        4. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus 18 June 2012 16: 13
          +4
          If what I see is called the civilized world, let it burn with a blue flame in fiery hell! My eyes would not see this "civilized" world! Better alone, better for the blind than that. And Russia is not Britain for you, maybe we are not as great as you, but we have 1/6 of the land, or rather the entire hardland of the Eurasian continent with all natural reserves and the periodic table. We have a lot of forest, drinking water and oil and gas at worst. And we also have a powerful nuclear shield, that's just the Yars entered service, T50 is on the way. So we will live very well without your "civilized world" in harmony with nature and soul. And most importantly, what will you do to us, pour mud on us? Well, well, you will swear, be indignant, emit bile, stamp your foot shouting, passing to falsetto "savages!" - Yes, please, only you will earn cancer and all from your anger and powerlessness, you yourself have invented the term "psychosomatics". You cannot do anything to Russia, and isolation only plays into our hands, at least let us breathe freely from your moronic film industry and the cult of "consumers". And most importantly, you have nothing to say in response))))
        5. Sandov
          Sandov 18 June 2012 19: 24
          +3
          But father tudy-syudy,
          Your so-called civilized world is a haven of murderers, rapists, and blues. Cynically robbing the rest of the world. So Mr. Gringo do not carry nonsense.
          1. Common sense
            Common sense 19 June 2012 01: 29
            -3
            On the contrary.
            Everyone else is robbing the White World.
            The same Internet was created in the United States, with the Pentagon’s money — and you use it to read General Ivashov’s nonsense without getting up from your chair and not paying for a newspaper.
            In the White World, money was spent so you would save them.
            The same thing with medicine, engineering, information technology, etc.
            1. Che
              Che 19 June 2012 07: 43
              +1
              Common sense,
              Well .. this white Amer world that robs and destroys people, deprives them of the right to life and prosperity. Yes, so that he was soon wiped off the face of the earth. He gave nothing but suffering and blood.
              1. Common sense
                Common sense 19 June 2012 21: 17
                +1
                Beauty is in the eye of the beholder . And evil freaks everywhere see evil and ugly.
                In the end, abandon the computer and the Internet - this is a 100% American product.
      2. alexng
        alexng 18 June 2012 13: 25
        +6
        Yes, it's time to stop looking at the West. Whatever Russia does, the West will always make it guilty and demonize. So maybe it's time to go out and tear off the mask of virtue from the American goat.
    5. Volkhov
      Volkhov 18 June 2012 13: 28
      -6
      Why did you go on a TEPLOVOZ (diesel) Hitler avatar?
      And hostility towards France ... Associations are strange.
      1. Patton135
        Patton135 18 June 2012 14: 06
        +4
        Kutuzov also had a dislike for France, so what? Do you have strange associations popping up in your brain about him?
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 18 June 2012 15: 53
          +2
          Kutuzov did not seem to use Bonapartism symbols, and the locomotive from the avatar was one of the symbols of the Reich, was used in Hitler's personal train and on the Berlin-Breslau express line, developed more than 200 km / h, was an advertising image of railways.
          The car of course is beautiful, but the owners are specific. However, we have freedom of opinion.
          1. Armata
            Armata 18 June 2012 16: 02
            +2
            If this is about my avatar. This machine was made in the USSR immediately after the war and is called Josiv Stalin. So you are mistaken.
            1. Volkhov
              Volkhov 18 June 2012 16: 16
              0
              No, they are only similar in silhouette, the steam locomotive has a pipe, the star is in front, and the diesel locomotive has no pipe, and the front is an eagle, take a closer look. The IS also has a front hitch.
            2. Volkhov
              Volkhov 18 June 2012 16: 58
              0
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          2. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 18 June 2012 16: 23
            +1
            Volkhov, once again, you're wrong, don't find fault with Paravoz, he has "JOSEPH STALIN" on his avatar. Most likely you confused him with BR18
      2. Bashkaus
        Bashkaus 18 June 2012 16: 19
        0
        Volkhov, well, I would be ashamed to call a steam locomotive of the IS series (Joseph Stalin) with an aerodynamic body kit, a diesel locomotive, which also carried a "fürrer's road", although it is not known beforehand what kind of thrust was taken to Moscow by pieces of Adolf's skull))))
        1. Volkhov
          Volkhov 18 June 2012 17: 02
          +2


          I agree, I made a mistake, but very similar, apparently they copied after the war.
          1. Bashkaus
            Bashkaus 18 June 2012 17: 28
            +2
            I also watch a lover of railway equipment?;) And if you missed the wrong IS, FD, SB and Lebedyanka are heavy paravoz, we had no experience of building such. As the saying goes, they absorbed the best of domestic and foreign steam locomotives, it was not for nothing that Lebedyansky went to the USA "on an excursion" to absorb ideas. Okay, you can talk about paraboots in a personal, otherwise they will minus as off topic ((((
            1. Armata
              Armata 18 June 2012 19: 44
              +1
              Sorry Sergei did not read your comments. I also love steam engines so "+"
              1. Bashkaus
                Bashkaus 19 June 2012 13: 10
                0
                Ha, I’m looking at a company of amateurs, and you can figure out for three)))
          2. Armata
            Armata 18 June 2012 19: 41
            +1
            Not copied but developed in the USSR. And who invented something from 0? All great cars are the embodiment of many designers around the world. So "+"
    6. NauruS
      NauruS 18 June 2012 13: 47
      +2
      Ivashov said everything correctly, but you can’t get these animals through diplomatic measures, they spit on international norms, therefore, along with diplomacy, decisive action must be taken! send the fleet and marines to protect their citizens and the port of Tartus is at least !!
    7. VAF
      VAF 18 June 2012 16: 18
      +1
      Quote: Steam Train
      I absolutely agree. Just do not spit in their direction, but definitely in their eyes. And France, too, put in an uncomfortable position, I will only be for it.


      Steam engine, welcome !!! +++ !!! drinks and it’s definitely said ... right into the gas !!! you are right for all 10000%
      1. Armata
        Armata 18 June 2012 19: 47
        +2
        Hello Sergey drinks Yes, it's time to show them their place. Especially now they have a chocolate nickel began to shrink at the word Russia.
        1. starred
          starred 18 June 2012 23: 40
          +1
          Ivashov is a wise, respectable old man! You have to listen to him !!! - And do as he says ...
  2. Comrade Kurchatov
    Comrade Kurchatov 18 June 2012 12: 27
    +6
    NATO - these are predators who constantly want human victims

    Oh, but I thought that they were really peacekeepers. laughing
    1. Ion coaelung
      Ion coaelung 18 June 2012 14: 33
      +12
      Well, they then sacredly believe that peacekeepers, customers inspired them, like the rest, through advertising, propaganda, NLP, etc ....
      1. alexng
        alexng 18 June 2012 16: 45
        +5
        Two fish in an aquarium are arguing hotly about something.
        Then one of them, upset, sets sail for another corner.
        After a few minutes of thinking, he comes back and says:
        - Well, let's say there is no God ... And who then changes the water in the aquarium?


        They only believe in money from the machine. But unbelief does not exempt from reckoning for atrocities, no matter what sauce it is presented with.
      2. aksakal
        aksakal 18 June 2012 23: 50
        0
        Quote: Ion Coaelung
        Well, they then sacredly believe that peacekeepers, customers inspired them, like the rest, through advertising, propaganda, NLP, etc.
        - laughed at the photo !!! Well done!
  3. Cadet787
    Cadet787 18 June 2012 12: 32
    +4
    The leadership of Russia, today needs political firmness of an offensive nature, Russia is doing a righteous cause.
  4. mechanic33
    mechanic33 18 June 2012 12: 35
    +11
    What France did with its NATO allies with Libya is murder. Destroyed Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya ...


    this is the western world. Their entire developed civilization on the corpses of the peoples plundered by them
    1. alexng
      alexng 18 June 2012 16: 47
      +5
      It is likely that if you go crazy, then the world around you will be closer, clearer and dearer.
  5. IDV68
    IDV68 18 June 2012 12: 39
    +10
    Ivashov is one hundred percent right. Only posing in a doggie pose of II, frogmen and other idiots can at least somehow stop this NATO outrage, which began with the collapse of the Union. Who, if not the SCO countries, should bend ushlopkov.
  6. AIvanA
    AIvanA 18 June 2012 12: 54
    +2
    Yes, it’s a pity, while in our government and in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there is still not enough will for such steps, I completely agree with the author, and probably it's time to move from words to deeds.
  7. sichevik
    sichevik 18 June 2012 13: 00
    +7
    Ivashov, of course, is right three times. But he did not say anything new. The United States and its hangers-on from NATO are not peacekeepers at all. They are worse than the Nazis. And at the expense of France, so I'm generally silent. These are only with the weaker and know how to fight. In World War II, a week later they surrendered ... I also fought.
    But Syria should not be given to them to be torn to pieces. Time works for Assad. Just a little more and all this Syrian opposition will fall apart. The main thing is that the SCO countries do not flinch, squeeze the NATO troops and all their shoblu ...
    1. AIvanA
      AIvanA 18 June 2012 13: 06
      +6
      Yes, I agree France is not the one but she can afford to kick from the leg of a lying man, but if there is a whole NATA behind her, it is with pleasure, and Syria should be supported, if there is enough will.
      1. lcalex
        lcalex 18 June 2012 15: 28
        +2
        Like the jackal next to Sherkhan. From our cartoon yes
    2. VAF
      VAF 18 June 2012 16: 31
      0
      Quote: sichevik
      Ivashov, of course, is right three times. But he did not say anything new.


      Sorry, +! And what's new said Our leaders and the department Taburetkina ???

      I'm not talking about what they did ... but in fact they did the following:

      Contrary to media reports that the project 1171 Russian large landing ship "Nikolai Filchenkov" allegedly sailed from Sevastopol to Syria with a cargo of weapons and military equipment and with a detachment of marines on board, in reality this ship is still in Sevastopol.
      This is confirmed by the photograph of "Nikolay Filchenkov" taken in Sevastopol on the morning of June 17, 2012.



      No comments were received from officials of the Russian Ministry of Defense. The only military leader who responded to this information was Vladimir Graduusov, deputy commander in chief of the Air Force. Yes, and he put it very carefully. Like, military aviation will fulfill any order of the Supreme Commander. In other words, if the president decides that the presence of our warships near Tartus is necessary, then the Air Force will provide their cover on the whole route to distant shores.



      Later, a message from ITAR-TASS appeared on Russian news feeds, which was quoted by an anonymous source in the General Staff: "Due to the fact that the Mediterranean Sea is in the area of ​​responsibility of our Black Sea Fleet, it is quite possible that, if necessary, its warships will go there to complete the task to ensure the security of the point of material and technical support of the Russian Navy in Tartus ". An unnamed source claimed that several Black Sea Fleet ships with marines on board are now in full readiness to go to sea.



      To verify this information, the RG correspondent called the Ministry of Defense and the Southern Operational-Strategic Command, which includes the Black Sea Fleet. In Moscow and Rostov-on-Don, the message about the secret campaign of "Nikolai Filchenkov" to Syria was called nonsense.



      “This ship is now standing on the roadstead in Sevastopol, it is clearly visible from the shore,” the military department said.



      And the official representative of the Southern Military District Igor Gorbul clarified that all the ships of the Black Sea Fleet are located in the permanent deployment points. "On Saturday, the large landing ship Caesar Kunikov returned from the Italian Messina to Sevastopol. The crews of the Black Sea Fleet are not involved in other cruises," the colonel explained.



      So what about the information from the General Staff? The experts, to whom the "RG" correspondent asked for clarifications, in principle saw nothing reprehensible in it. The fact is that the Mediterranean really belongs to the area of ​​responsibility of the Black Sea Fleet. When new hotbeds of tension appear there, the military is obliged to predict any scenario. All the more so if there is a Russian naval facility and its service personnel in an explosive region. If there is a big mess in Tartus, our people may have to be evacuated from there. Perhaps even with the help of warships. But, firstly, nothing has been heard about the battles in the port. And secondly, the decision - what, whom and when to send to Syria in any case - will not be made at the headquarters of the Black Sea Fleet or even at the Ministry of Defense. This is the prerogative of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
      1. Armata
        Armata 18 June 2012 19: 49
        +1
        Sergei. Yes they are. Nobody will get there. Neither the Yankees nor the Russians. So everything in words will end.
      2. CC-20a
        CC-20a 18 June 2012 21: 41
        +1
        What do you mean?
        No one ever claimed that our landing ship was going to Syria with the Marine Corps. At least I personally did not notice such information.

        The only thing that is said is that a group was sent to the port of Tartus to ensure the security of the port and property of the Russian Federation, they didn’t seem to say anything on which ship, it’s clear that they are going along with some kind of cargo, and most likely if they were sent then they are already in place. After all, such things advertise the current after the completion of the event.
        They also said that the landing ship is "under steam", that is, in some operational readiness for a campaign together with the marines, they also said that in which case they would be tasked with protecting the port of Tartus and citizens of the Russian Federation (including the embassy and our working engineers ).

        Proof: http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/70323/
    3. starred
      starred 18 June 2012 23: 59
      +1
      TELL ME - who can show a fig to AMERICOS?
      Don't tell. So you won't say that everyone in THIS "FUCKING" world depends directly on the "green" !!! I would like to add - a snake ...
      For what kind of such we climb into THEIR WTO ??? - This is an even bigger "KABBALAaaa" ...
      Neither the Russian Federation, nor China, nor anyone else ... NOBODY will be able to say directly - "Shouldn't you, peers, go to Khutor! And if you don't, then we will do what we want !!! And we will start doing it quickly. ...
      I've finished!
      1. 755962
        755962 19 June 2012 00: 15
        0
        Quote: starded
        I've finished!

        Beautifully finished + drinks
  8. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 18 June 2012 13: 08
    +2
    A good article outlining a senior retired soldier. I agree that it is necessary to strengthen the deep pressure, but not only. It must be supported by appropriate deeds and a clear will.
  9. Pedro
    Pedro 18 June 2012 13: 09
    -7
    Too radical proposal
    1. lcalex
      lcalex 18 June 2012 15: 30
      +1
      Quote: Pedro
      Too radical proposal


      Nifiga! How much can they endure?
      Until we bark, they will spit at all angry
  10. htpm100
    htpm100 18 June 2012 13: 15
    +1
    You know France, this is a puppet of the United States and Great Britain, it does not solve anything in foreign policy, in the next elections in France, if Russia pursues a more aggressive policy in relation to the United States, it is necessary to openly support Marie le Pen if she will run for election (this will radically change the political course of France), But at the expense of Great Britain, it is possible to support the Argentines on the issue of the Falkland Islands, Russia has many opportunities to influence the United States and its allies, but unfortunately no steps are being taken to this at the moment, and on the contrary, all kinds of concessions are being made. Let's see what happens to Syria if Russia gives up Assad, then it will be possible to put an end to Russia's foreign policy.
  11. Gakkoga
    Gakkoga 18 June 2012 13: 16
    -1
    Unfortunately, the situation is really on the verge of simmering, without a clear line of political leadership to support the Syrian regime and argumentation in the form of the SCO peacekeeping contingent, it is impossible to extinguish this conflict. So we will have to decide on this step and extinguish the conflict already in the active phase, until it turns into a civil war, because this is what the West is trying to achieve. The enemy is already almost at our doorstep and we can no longer allow it to roll under the "belly of the Caucasus". We already have an abundance of unresolved problems in this region.
  12. zevs379
    zevs379 18 June 2012 13: 55
    0
    It is time to pass a law on preventing diplomatic relations with NATO countries.
  13. TekhnarMAF
    TekhnarMAF 18 June 2012 14: 07
    +1
    I treat L. Ivashov with great respect! I don’t think that there will be a stuffing on his part. Our politicians need to be more active. I don’t know, but maybe our ambassadors are "exiled" from the current politics?
  14. patriot2
    patriot2 18 June 2012 14: 23
    0
    alexneg, Alexander Ivanovich - Your good offer.
    And spit is not saliva, but somewhat stronger - we have a lot in our arsenal.
  15. Z.A.M.
    Z.A.M. 18 June 2012 15: 35
    +1
    I respect Ivashov, plus article.
    But, foreign policy is this part of the general policy of the state.
    We are "entering" the WTO, where can we show rigidity here ... Remember how the Russian Foreign Ministry acted, but at least for the last year, with:
    - REPEATED speeches by the Nazis in Estonia and Latvia, as well as infringement of the rights of Russians;
    - PERIODIC claims of Poland against Russia (for any historical events);
    - the detention of our pilots, etc., and so on. I don’t remember everything at once. What was the position of the Foreign Ministry? "The Foreign Ministry expresses concern," "The Foreign Ministry condemns," in short, the Foreign Ministry is worried, and probably cries. Reeling snot on a cam ... And we are all here, at this time are indignant. In Libya, we ABSTAINED, what a word ... interesting for this situation. There is a clearer position on Syria, which already speaks, rather, of the seriousness of the situation, and not a change in the rhetoric of the Foreign Ministry. Although, I would like to be specific and firm, but ... this is diplomacy ...
    Article plus.
  16. apro
    apro 18 June 2012 16: 49
    +1
    The French have purged their party into geopolitics from the United States on parcels now, and we can send them to us. The Syrians can only hold on.
  17. black cat
    black cat 18 June 2012 17: 35
    -2
    Quote: FiremanRS
    Do you need to list current and future allies?

    If there are any, don’t take it as labor, please list.
  18. PabloMsk
    PabloMsk 18 June 2012 17: 51
    -8
    Found someone to listen to .... Ivashova :)
    Yes, on the Russians half the world in countries of the third world has already taken up arms, and you are all talking about supporting all sorts of freaks taldychite .....
    Russia with its idiotic policies only exacerbates its idiotic position in the world, while citizens who are in the territory of Putin-supported regimes suffer from this.

    What is not a "bad person" is a friend of Russia ...
    1. IGR
      IGR 18 June 2012 19: 04
      +4
      yeah ... where do we go ...
      We look with envy at the new Iraq, democratic Libya and secular Egypt. We dream of making friends with transplantologists, sending our boys in the wake of their fathers to Afghanistan for another international duty, reconciling Armenians and Azerbaijanis, paternally blaming Mishiko Nikolayevich for the artillery bombardment of the dead and peacekeepers, dropping head off Transnistria, giving the Japanese the Kuril Islands Sakhalin ....
      Do you think this is the only way to correct the "idiotic situation"?
      I do not argue, we have enough idiots in excess, they would be supplied as gas for export:"Durprom" is a dream to get rid of!
      only WE firmly know (foresee) one thing - tomorrow YOU will be worse than WE today.
    2. Sandov
      Sandov 18 June 2012 19: 29
      +3
      PabloMsk,
      Gringo you at least turn on the brains sometimes, enough like vampires to drink someone else's blood. Let people make decisions for themselves. What XERA you are not getting into your own business.
  19. Odessa
    Odessa 18 June 2012 18: 40
    +4
    L. Ivashov: “NATO is a predator that constantly wants human victims.” Ivashov, as always, is polycorrect. yes
    NATO is a bloodthirsty monster, on the sacrificial altar of which countries and peoples are placed, it devours everything and everything, breathes fire and looks like a dragon. And if evil spirits dare to encroach on the Russian Earth, then do not demolish his head with his own enemy, from the Warriors ours. (Russian folk tale).
    1. Armata
      Armata 18 June 2012 19: 52
      +3
      Greetings to Esther. And this is said by the girl who served in the NATO forces. Think about the guys.
      1. Common sense
        Common sense 19 June 2012 01: 40
        -1
        Any generals are dumb.
        Both forum and chichipichny.
        And marshals are generally a threat to the gene pool (((
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 19 June 2012 20: 50
      0
      Quote: Odessa
      not to demolish his head with an insidious enemy, from our heroes. (Russian folk tale).

      Such a statement clearly lacks a visual argument.
  20. Budilnik
    Budilnik 18 June 2012 18: 56
    +3
    all right. Here are just official politicians withstand some kind of atrophied tone.
  21. Ataturk
    Ataturk 18 June 2012 19: 46
    +5
    NATO? This is an organization that has no honor and no conscience !!!

    More significant is the condemnation by the “international community”, including the G1, of the vile US and British aggression against Iraq. The country was incinerated, turned into ruins, destroyed about 440 million XNUMX thousand peaceful Iraqis. And the reason for the invasion was the alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction, atomic bombs, in Baghdad. When the Republic of Iraq was occupied, it turned out that Saddam Hussein had no nuclear weapons at all. Both US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair admitted that they did not find atomic bombs in Iraq, they were mistaken ... Like, intelligence failed. And the country continues to be tortured to this day.


    Despite this



    Let's go further



    Total?

    The main reason for what is happening.
    The seizure by the United States and NATO countries of colossal oil reserves in anticipation of the global energy crisis.
    Note that the coup in Iraq, attempts to influence Iran, the events in Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, Syria, Yemen and other countries of the Middle East have the same motive.

    Result?



    For me, rebels in Libya are worse than NATO. It's a shame when their become worse than the Nazis. They want to build a country on such atrocities? The foundation of arranging countries with such atrocities?

    Urody so take a picture as if women take a picture. Tfu.

    I believe that NATO members are modern hooligans at the state level. And to be honest, throwing dozens of TOPOL-M on their HEADs is not a sin. I am sure God will understand and forgive !!! Since dogs deserve only dog ​​death.


    I WILL HONELY SAY, SEEING WHO SUCH NATS, SEEING ANIMALS IN THE FACE OF THE REBEL, I AM EVEN GLAD THAT THEM AT THE CHAIR OF THE TRADER. Let them live in slavery. THEY EARLY OR LATER UNDERSTAND, ONLY ALREADY NEVER GOING ANYWHERE.

  22. Prophet Alyosha
    Prophet Alyosha 18 June 2012 20: 02
    +2
    We need to understand that the anti-Russian regime 20 years ago in Russia entrenched itself, on a far-fetched pretext, threw Ivashov out of the presidential race, sensing that they could not resist him in an open struggle. Why did they do this? They have the opposite view of the world. Therefore, it is naive to expect a strong and independent foreign policy from the Kremlin. Everyone is straining towards the United States — obviously for domestic consumption — just a pun, they are in line with American politics in CASE. And they will surrender Syria as well as Libya and Serbia. Remember my word ...
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 18 June 2012 21: 30
      +2
      Yes, it has long been clear that they and their masters, of course, are with them,
      but after Iraq and Libya it’s scary for your skin!
      What is NATO there? I would like to once again draw attention to the fact that
      The United States is just the headquarters of TransNational Capital,
      whose power tool is NATO led by the United States,
      and an economic instrument - a dollar!
      And this TransNational Capital is leading us and elsewhere
      sabotage war, under a false sign TERRORISM ??? !!!
      So L. Ivashov, apparently, as a military man, points to the performer
      crime, but by no means, not on his customer!
      But the true enemy must be known !!!
  23. 77bor1973
    77bor1973 18 June 2012 23: 29
    0
    I especially liked about "Mistral", but I think you can't give it away!
  24. Patriot
    Patriot 19 June 2012 18: 32
    0
    Quote: Prophet Alyosha
    Prophet Alyosha

    We need to understand that the anti-Russian regime 20 years ago in Russia entrenched itself, on a far-fetched pretext, threw Ivashov out of the presidential race, sensing that they could not resist him in an open struggle. Why did they do this? They have the opposite view of the world. Therefore, it is naive to expect a strong and independent foreign policy from the Kremlin. Everyone is straining towards the United States — obviously for domestic consumption — just a pun, they are in line with American politics in CASE. And they will surrender Syria as well as Libya and Serbia. Remember my word ...



    Bravo, Alyosha! BRAVO!

    You are saying everything correctly, only few people in the Russian Federation understand the essence and roots of the ubiquitous destructive processes in our country. They are like blind babies. They do not want to see the root and realize for whom the demon destroyer cast their votes.
    I have long understood where this cross leads us. , And, these anti-Western criticisms of Syria and formerly Libya are directed exclusively at Russian zombie edrosovskih, nashi and putl .. r yugensky URA-PATRIOTS.
    By the way, I will try to say goodbye to one of NOW !!!

    EEEEEY, esaul YOUR FORECAST ABOUT SYRIA !!! WILL THE LILIPUTINS HAVE DELIVERED TO SYRIA TO OWNERS?
    VERY HOPE TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.
    I still don’t understand why Yesaul does not write his nickname in Russian.

    And the harsh reality is that in the end the owners of our two ghouls will tell them to shut up and we will once again surrender all positions to the amers. By the way, this all adds up. In addition, the NATO operation, which began in Syria and further in Iran, will again raise seriously falling oil prices. And, considering how much vovochka promised, he needs expensive oil. He would be happy to seriously lower the ruble, but in this case inflation will increase significantly. And, this is already a stone in the garden of the current thieves destructive power, because the people will not like it.
    Moreover, judging by the fact that they recently sent to Syria for the ships, ours decided to evacuate the civilians, and this, as we all know, is the first 100% sign of an emergency operation to overthrow the legally elected president.
    And, about Ivashov in the 2012 elections, you are also right. He did not allow him, because he was afraid of the appearance of a NORMAL AND WELCOME PATRIOT among the candidates. Either those who were from Putin’s gang of Mironov, prokhorov and those pseudo-oppositionists with whom he had already agreed on Zhirinovsky and Zyuganov went to the polls.
    Therefore, I always write a gang of Putin under the court.