Pakistan claims to have shot down two planes of the Indian Air Force

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The command of the armed forces of Pakistan reported that the means of the Pakistan Air Defense Forces shot down two Indian Air Force aircraft. The message indicates that the Indian combat aviation carried out an invasion of Pakistan's airspace. At the same time, the material claims that Indian combat aircraft were shot down this morning.

From the statement of the press secretary of the armed forces of Pakistan Asif Ghafur:
Indian fighters violated the air borders of Pakistan. Two fighters were shot down.




According to some reports, one of the planes of the Indian Air Force fell near the border line, the other in the Azad region of Kashmir. Both countries consider these territories as their own.

Pakistan claims to have shot down two planes of the Indian Air Force On the eve of the Indian media outlets reported on the attacks of the Indian Air Force on targets in Pakistan. It is about striking the training camps of militants group "Jaish-e-Mohammad", which New Delhi calls involved in the attack on the Indian police. Some media in India said that the Mirage-2000 aircraft used Israeli-launched SPICE guided bombs to attack, without entering Pakistani airspace. Pakistan stated that there were no militant training camps in the country, and that the blow fell on deserted wooded areas.

Some time after the statements of the representative of the Pakistani Armed Forces, the Indian media stated that the Pakistanis shot down a helicopter that was in Indian airspace. Other media reported that it was all about "drone".
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  1. -47
    27 February 2019 10: 11
    Well, everything went hot! Now bombarded with Pakistan!
    In general, it will be very interesting to watch the Su-30. In a real battle.
    I ran for popcorn!
    1. +64
      27 February 2019 10: 24
      Nichrome interesting! two nuclear states. for a second ..
      1. +9
        27 February 2019 10: 27
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Nichrome interesting! two nuclear states. for a second ..

        And very close to us ... It’s not Fiji and Tongo somewhere far away there are disassemblies ...
        1. +11
          27 February 2019 10: 30
          They were expecting heat from Syria, but it started in a completely different place and actually out of the blue ...
          Ps: India did not have time to rearm, danced with tambourines
          1. +2
            27 February 2019 10: 56
            And how do the militants from Jeysh-i-Mohammad react?
          2. +6
            27 February 2019 10: 56
            Quote: Vol4ara
            India didn’t have time to rearm,

            Maybe by the way, this is exactly what explains the urgent purchases of India from us by the used MIG-29. They knew in advance that the heat would begin.
            1. +1
              27 February 2019 19: 28
              If you knew in advance, then ordered in advance, and not yesterday. Now it’s time to wait, even if not for long, and the Indians have a clear advantage in the Air Force. So it will go to make up for losses, if any.
        2. +13
          27 February 2019 10: 32
          Quote: Destiny
          And very close to us ...

          C'mon ... Although you may be writing from Nepal ...
          1. +6
            27 February 2019 11: 40
            In the nuclear missile era, the concept of distance has changed a lot. If we have confused the programming of the launch point (Baikonur instead of Vostochny) and launched the rocket "slightly" in the wrong direction, then where is the guarantee that the Indian and Pakistani programmers and rocket scientists are inferior to ours in terms of flexibility? And if they don’t zakosyachat, the wind rose - it’s such a rose, and the winds, they are higher than the Pamirs - Tien Shan.
          2. +5
            27 February 2019 13: 30
            . C'mon ... Although you may be writing from Nepal ...

            India is on the mainland Eurasia and we (Russia) on the same mainland
      2. +5
        27 February 2019 10: 30
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Nichrome interesting! two nuclear states. for a second ..

        There will be no further cross-border conflict. Rulers love when somebody dies, but not they, but nuclear weapons threaten everyone.
        1. +34
          27 February 2019 10: 32
          You know, looking at the degree of idiocy and the curve of its growth on our planet over the past five to ten years, I would not be so sure.
        2. 0
          27 February 2019 10: 36
          Rulers love when somebody dies, but not they, but nuclear weapons threaten everyone.

      3. +5
        27 February 2019 11: 41
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Nichrome interesting! two nuclear states. for a second ..

        Why do some comrades think about it here? The main fun, after all, is not important that we can talk about tens of millions of lives. The main thing is to eat popcorn and enjoy this outcome. fool
        1. +3
          27 February 2019 13: 22
          Andrei hi I, actually. about this, even assuming the absence of strategic charges, 10 - 20 kilotons in the middle of Delhi or Islamabad - nothing funny
      4. 0
        27 February 2019 12: 02
        Nichrome interesting! two nuclear states. for a second ..

        What is everyone so excited about? Why panic in vain?
        No one will use doomsday weapons. Hindus with packs guys are of course unpretentious, but not to such an extent.
    2. +26
      27 February 2019 10: 34
      A war begins between the nuclear powers, and the UN sits on a turnip; they scratch it - as if to annoy the Russian Federation and not shit
      1. +2
        27 February 2019 10: 42
        Pakistan claims to have shot down two planes of the Indian Air Force
        right now, India will say that it bombed "two camps" and "two states" ... who is more?
        1. +3
          27 February 2019 10: 57
          Quote: Dead Day
          Pakistan claims to have shot down two planes of the Indian Air Force
          right now, India will say that it bombed "two camps" and "two states" ... who is more?

          India has no evidence, but Pakistan has photos, videos and a captive pilot
      2. -1
        27 February 2019 13: 07
        Moreover, it has long been useless
  2. +1
    27 February 2019 10: 12
    Well, that’s where the kneading began. At least the fall of one Indian MIG-21 fighter was recorded. There is also an inverse trace from the rocket in the Jammu and Kashmir region, in the fall region ..
    1. +3
      27 February 2019 10: 34
      India responded by landing f-16, look further
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 10: 47
        all the best!
        and on f-16 where is the information? it seems was not in open sources.
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          1. 0
            27 February 2019 10: 49
            thank. something fast things went
          2. +7
            27 February 2019 11: 00
            Quote: Sauron80
            https://lenta.ru/news/2019/02/27/f16/

            I remember during the war in Yugoslavia, if you believe the news, the planes rained to the ground as if from a cornucopia, but in fact it turned out to be shot down only 1.
            So that I would not believe all kinds of tapes, etc., but would listen to the official statements of the participating countries and pay more attention not to balabol, but to the facts - photos and videos
            1. +4
              27 February 2019 11: 08
              Well, in Syria, Israeli planes are also constantly "shot down", here I agree))
              We are waiting and hope that the steam will leave quickly and sit at the negotiating table.
            2. +1
              27 February 2019 11: 35
              In Yugoslavia, 2 stealth were shot down and shot down by their S-75 and S-125 air defense systems! hi
            3. 0
              27 February 2019 11: 45
              Well, in the era of Photoshop's triumph, you can present a downed death star and a captive Darth Vader with her, with a column of drowning green men in the background. So now even photos and videos have to be trusted very carefully.
            4. mvg
              +2
              27 February 2019 12: 57
              but in fact it turned out they shot down only 1

              Yes, as it were. Even if you do not take the statistics of Yugoslavia, and our GRU.
              https://topwar.ru/15180-poteri-nato-v-yugoslavii.html
      2. +3
        27 February 2019 10: 54
        Quote: Sauron80
        India responded by landing f-16, look further

        India didn’t have to give up the Russian Su-35 fighters in favor of the American ones. And you see, they want the Stone Age, I want to here, I don’t want to .. Well, let them now be content with the old MIGs in the confrontation with the Pakistani Air Force.
    2. +3
      27 February 2019 10: 56
      are they going to fight on MIG-21?
      1. +3
        27 February 2019 11: 01
        Quote: loki565
        are they going to fight on MIG-21?

        Already as if
      2. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 45
        Quote: loki565
        are they going to fight on MIG-21?

        The Indians MIG-21 upgraded under the name Bison.
      3. +5
        27 February 2019 11: 46
        And why did they keep them, not writing them off, if they were not going to fight on them? To shoot bollywood movies with dancing on the wing of a fighter?
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 49
          Well, I don’t know, it’s possible to simulate aerial combat as a target. Or fight with barmaley, but not as if not with a state that has a modern air force.
          1. +1
            27 February 2019 12: 01
            Well, for the Pakistanis, too, far from all Air Force are made up of F-16s. And initially, the Indians were the Barmaleans who offended, but in Pakistani (de facto, then the Indians consider it their own) territory. So it may not have immediately reached the headquarters in Delhi that the games are over.
  3. +4
    27 February 2019 10: 14
    They say that India also has elections. Damn the utopian idea. Take and cancel all elections. Not well. The USA calmed down a bit. And then, in fact, the world is in ruin for the sake of the elections. Listen to Comrade Cord. He knows a lot about elections
    1. +4
      27 February 2019 10: 38
      Take and cancel all elections
      I support. Only first, democracy must be equated with Nazism.
      1. +2
        27 February 2019 10: 42
        To do this, we need a new Nuremberg, and before it a victory in the Third World War.
      2. 0
        27 February 2019 10: 46
        Quote: Gardamir
        Only first, democracy must be equated with Nazism.

        I insist. First we listen to the cord, and then we draw conclusions bully
  4. +1
    27 February 2019 10: 14
    [ceIn Pakistan's airspace, two Indian Air Force fighters and a Mi-17 helicopter were shot down.
    Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/srochno-pakistan-sbil-dva-indiyskih-istrebitelya-i-vertolyotnter][/ Center]
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 10: 20
      Quote: mvd ru
      [ceIn Pakistan's airspace, two Indian Air Force fighters and a Mi-17 helicopter were shot down.
      Read more at: http://avia.pro/news/srochno-pakistan-sbil-dva-indiyskih-istrebitelya-i-vertolyotnter][/ Center]

      404. "No results were found for your request"
      1. +4
        27 February 2019 10: 29
        Quote: Doliva63
        Pakistan shot down two Indian Air Force fighters

        I found the photo, it is old, last year. Video hike too.
        https://www.eastcoastdaily.in/2018/03/20/indian-air-force-flight-crashes-in-odisha.html
        Py. Sy:
        Nothing is clear on the video.
        1. +2
          27 February 2019 10: 39
          Am I here a Pakistani spy threw a sleeper into a gallery? Copy the link in the address bar and see for yourself.
          The railwayman. laughing
    2. +1
      27 February 2019 10: 36
      Quote: mvd ru
      In the airspace of Pakistan shot down two fighters of the Indian Air Force and Mi-17 helicopter.

      The Mi-17V-5 military transport helicopter of the Indian Air Force crashed at the Srinagar airfield.
      There is no evidence that he was shot down yet. Also, Pakistani sources uploaded a video of a seriously injured but alive pilot of this fighter. Not a pleasant sight. Https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakistanArmy? Src = hash
      1. +2
        27 February 2019 11: 50
        I came across an article about a downed Mi-17 fighter. Oh god Now, to embed material in quite serious media, you just need to know the letters. There are no additional requirements, such as knowledge of spelling, a minimal understanding of what you write.
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 54
          Quote: UAZ 452
          what are you writing about, it seems not.

          I didn’t sit at the same table with you, so talk more carefully. I have a normal source. Here's another. Captive pilot of the Indian Air Force. Abhi Nandan, who commanded the Indian Air Force wing during an air battle on the border of Pakistan and India.
          1. 0
            27 February 2019 12: 05
            Read my comment carefully and you will understand that the quoted phrase had nothing to do with you. Or did you write that article where the Mi-17 was solemnly named a fighter? If not, then offended me completely in vain.
            1. +2
              27 February 2019 12: 20
              Quote: UAZ 452
              Read my comment carefully and you will understand

              Then I'm sorry. Just a message came to my comment.
        2. +2
          27 February 2019 11: 57
          Quote: UAZ 452
          Now, to emboss material in quite serious media, you just need to know the letters

          I note, not even all
        3. mvg
          0
          27 February 2019 13: 00
          Mi-17 fighter

          This can even be read on Rambler
        4. 0
          27 February 2019 14: 30
          Mi-17 fighter

          Strange, I always considered mi 17 a helicopter ...
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  6. +9
    27 February 2019 10: 17
    Pakistan reports having detained a downed Indian pilot.

    Strong fighting broke out on the Indo-Pakistani border, where, reportedly, Indian troops destroyed 5 Pakistani strongholds in the Jammu and Kashmir regions.
    The approach of reinforcements to the border on both sides also continues, where Indian and Pakistani troops transfer armored vehicles and army personnel.
    Clashes are ongoing, and in Delhi, Mumbai, another five cities in India declared the highest level of anxiety.

    In northern India, the Mi-17V5 crashed.
    According to India Today, pilots could die
    The Indian Air Force helicopter crashed on Wednesday in the northern state of Jammu and Kashmir. According to India Today, aircraft pilots could die as a result of the incident.
    According to the publication, the helicopter crashed in Badham County.
    1. +11
      27 February 2019 10: 29
      It seems that the lid from the boiler begins to really tear. For a long time there has not been such a tough confrontation between India and Pakistan. If now both sides do not take action towards reconciliation, the smell of war will escalate into war. stop
    2. -9
      27 February 2019 10: 37
      They’ll dance the pilot
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  8. +7
    27 February 2019 10: 19
    The morning began on the collective farm ...
  9. +6
    27 February 2019 10: 20
    Indians also announced the downing of Pakistani f16 ..... yes, events there are developing rapidly. the main thing is that they calm down.
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  11. +3
    27 February 2019 10: 27
    In the photo, the tail of the SEPECAT Jaguar, what for these old people is not clear. They have long been a place in the museum.
    1. +5
      27 February 2019 10: 40
      Thank you. good And I began to puzzle what kind of plane it was.
    2. +2
      27 February 2019 11: 04
      What's the Jaguar?
      Tail unit-ВаЕ "Hawk", combat training, light attack aircraft.
      Teach materiel, specialist!
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 12
        Quote: fighter angel
        Teach materiel, specialist!

        This is a jaguar that crashed in 2015, they shoved a picture of what it was seen. Who shot down is not clear.
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 52
          It's not about the photo.
          You compare the angular keel of the Jaguar with the keel of the Hawk, which is rounded at the top.
          In the presented photo - definitely the keel of the crashed Indian Hawke.
  12. +3
    27 February 2019 10: 28
    The main thing is that neither the packs nor the Indians of nuclear weapons are uncovered, otherwise they will have enough brains.
    1. 0
      28 February 2019 07: 51
      Yes, and to hell with them. Let them wet each other. The main thing is that the rest including and Russia did not get involved in this meat grinder. Packs under the guise can cut across Israel. It is certainly in a row, but there is a probability.
  13. +2
    27 February 2019 10: 29
    Mi-17 just shot down the wreckage laid out.
    1. +5
      27 February 2019 10: 30
      Both aircraft crashed into Pakistani territory.


      In general, the Indians have now raped the media - 2 aircraft minus + rotor. Hindus cannot tolerate this.
      1. 0
        27 February 2019 10: 34
        Quote: donavi49
        Both aircraft crashed into Pakistani territory.

        This means the Indians are actively attacking, and the packs are defending themselves.
      2. +2
        27 February 2019 10: 35
        Well, so on the eve of the whole camp they carried them away, plus F-16s were shot down today. So for now, approximate parity.
        1. +2
          27 February 2019 10: 37
          Well, the wreckage of the Indians is now being pulled away by all tweeters and the media. About F-16 only statements. About the camp too. Therefore, Packs 1 - 0 Hindus = at least by media.
          1. +1
            27 February 2019 10: 41
            Do the Indians have a satellite constellation to take pictures of foreign territory "before" and "after"? I just don't know.
            Well, I agree with the F-16, while we wait for the photo.
            But in general, the situation is unpleasant, aren't they striped in such a way that India is hinted to stay away from our weapons?
          2. +2
            27 February 2019 11: 33
            Quote: donavi49

            Well, the wreckage of the Indians is now on all the tweeters

            Right now, in these tweeters, they will harm each other in manpower and technology - just hold on.
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        2. 0
          27 February 2019 10: 58
          Quote: Sauron80
          Well, so on the eve of the whole camp they carried them away, plus F-16s were shot down today. So for now, approximate parity.

          Interesting than 16 landed.
        3. 0
          27 February 2019 11: 04
          Is there evidence? For example a photo?
          1. +1
            27 February 2019 11: 05
            Fell in Pakistan, so either take the word of the Indian gentlemen or wait for the locals to post the photo.
      3. 0
        27 February 2019 10: 42
        "2 aircraft minus" ////
        -----
        One is the Jaguar. And second?
    2. +1
      27 February 2019 11: 57
      Well ... They fell exactly and were shot down - not quite identical concepts. There, in peacetime, planes and helicopters fall like cones in a pine forest, and now, one must think, you have to fly a lot, and in the front-line area, especially over the enemy’s territory, cling to the relief. So the possibility is not ruled out that the Pakistani military found out about the downed helicopter when the villagers informed them about the pepelats crashed into their fields.
      1. +3
        27 February 2019 12: 01
        Well, the facts:
        2 pilot of the aircraft (all corpses in the guard sad ) detained by Pakistanis.
        photo of the MiG-21 wreckage with a pilot gun and maps = officially published by the Ministry of Defense of Pakistan
        the helicopter also does not cause questions.

        For the rest, it’s still in doubt.

        In any case, on 7 of April, elections in India will begin. If the Indians leave this, then the ruling party will fly away from the seats. Therefore, the answer will certainly be.
        1. 0
          27 February 2019 12: 20
          Yes, I’m not saying that this cannot be true. But it may not be. The wreckage of any aircraft can be pulled from an Internet (which has been done more than once in other situations). Pistol? Cards? Well, it’s generally possible to get it from your own pocket and present it. I write about the helicopter that it is not yet clear whether he was shot down or crashed for technical reasons, or because of the pilot’s inability to fly low over unfamiliar terrain. Here the main argument is whether there are traces on the case that are characteristic of striking elements, or only caused by a collision with the ground. Nobody has written about this yet, much less presented photographs. However, the loss is still fighting.

          When the pilot is presented at a press conference, it will be something. But by then it may not matter much - the flywheel will turn. Yes, there is no need for any reasons for the war - they have long been a little more than a fig. The only question is the reality or the "media" nature of the losses, and whether they are from the fire of the opposing side, or from the super-emergency characteristic of the Indian Air Force. By the way, one more option is not excluded - friendly fire.
  14. +6
    27 February 2019 10: 31
    Here's a nuclear powder keg ... the wick is already smoldering ....
  15. +1
    27 February 2019 10: 34
    They also do not live peacefully
  16. +12
    27 February 2019 10: 39
    The Hindus suspended a water agreement with Pakistan in response to the attack in Kashmir, where more than 40 soldiers were killed, and this is serious. The water truce may end and then a war between countries with nuclear weapons is inevitable. BV conflicts may seem like children's games in the sandbox compared to this batch.
    The refusal of the agreement on the exchange of water resources threatens Islamabad with the emergence of a massive, and most importantly practically irreparable from other sources shortage of not only drinking water for the population, but also much more important - water for irrigation, without which hunger could start in Pakistan.
    Without water, the possible loss of population of Pakistan is estimated at 45–48 million people, or almost a quarter to a third of its total population.

    The case there froze in a very dangerous situation, as they say any pebble can bring down an avalanche of events up to the exchange of nuclear strikes with unpredictable consequences for the entire continent, do not forget about China, whose India is one of the main geopolitical opponents, which is expressed in the open support of Pakistan in this conflict .
    In a word, everything is very serious and unpredictable.
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 11: 07
      Only this was not enough!
  17. +5
    27 February 2019 10: 40
    Well, the Indo-Pakistani conflict arrived in time, which I said. Then the problems with the terrorists in the Uyghur region for China. BRICS is falling apart, as opposed to Western systems, economic and political. Well, do not forget to set fire to the perimeter of Russia. I spoke about this recently. That's interesting, but pigs in bloomers when they trample on a provocation? And of course Venezuela! With her oil. While watching others, the United States is taking over Latinos! Like pinch (pocket thieves) distraction (conflict between India and Pakistan, and provocation of pigs in the Kerch Strait) and a wallet (Venezuela) in their pocket!
    1. +3
      27 February 2019 10: 54
      Only today in some article I read that for the United States the worst nightmare is the alliance of the Russian Federation - India - China. And here is such a gift for the states in the form of another Indo-Pakistani conflict. It is interesting which side Russia, China will take 100% for Pakistan. And if Russia does not take the side of India, then our military orders most likely cried, and especially the S-400 and MiG-35. And Russia - China will come out on the side of India - it will score a traffic jam in the Force of Siberia. Fun is scheduled.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 12: 44
        for the United States, the worst nightmare is the union of the Russian Federation - India - China.


        And even worse than the Russian-German alliance ...
        One hundred years already honor it Anglo-Saxons are afraid of ... trapestutt laughing
    2. +2
      27 February 2019 10: 55
      Set on fire, you are right! Then the Center. Asia may "arrive in time", alas!

      ps accidentally, instead of + put a minus, consider that this is +! hi
      1. +7
        27 February 2019 11: 25
        Dear asar and Sauron80 !!!! Good morning!!! hi
        An interesting picture emerges here: the weakening dollar is forcing the US to act in areas where conflict is inevitable and from this to have its dividends. Such points are the Indo-Pakistani conflict, it gives a weakening or collapse of the BRICS, since a major player India is part of the union. Brazil has been pulled into the Venezuelan conflict. If Brazil does not come to its senses. Further, this is the Kerch question. It was not for nothing that Glavsvin was aboard the Cook and received instructions from the Gauleiter Volcker. There will be another provocation soon. All this must blaze at the same time !!
        And for China, the Uyghur region. There was information that "tourists" from the United States appeared there in the Uighur region or in Taiwan. In Uyghur, it is unlikely, since the Chinese special services would not give it, rather in Taiwan !!! And the leaders of the militants from Syria will not disappear. And they transferred them closer to this area, Tajikistan. There was an article about Tajikistan on the site. And in the Uighur region, the bulk of the Muslims. Well, that's the ground for unrest. Something like this. And excuse me to address both of you at the same time. hi
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 42
          That's right!
        2. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 47
          Quote: Olegater
          And in the Uigur region, the bulk of the Muslims. Well, here is the ground for unrest.

          So it was before.
          Quote: Olegater
          BRICS collapse, as a major player in the union is India. Brazil pulled into the Venezuelan conflict.

          Pokistan and India are still members of the SCO.
          Quote: Olegater
          There was information that "tourists" from the United States appeared there in the Uighur region or in Taiwan. In Uyghur it is unlikely,

          I confirm the information, only to be more precise, American citizens quite legally lived and modestly conducted religious activities of a sectarian-Protestant persuasion, American citizens didn’t give them harm, but I didn’t see tourists from the USA there often. And no American tourist in the XUAR . In the foreseeable future, the Chinese will not allow Uyghur extremists to turn around.
          1. 0
            27 February 2019 12: 45
            Uigur extremists Chinese


            Let's not take sides in a conflict.
  18. +2
    27 February 2019 10: 44
    The Indian Air Force shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter, which violated the country's airspace. On Wednesday, February 27, reports the publication The Times of India.

    it started
  19. 0
    27 February 2019 10: 46
    The pilot of one of the Indian aircraft captured.
  20. +2
    27 February 2019 10: 46
    Quote: Destiny
    And very close to us ... It’s not Fiji and Tongo somewhere far away there are disassemblies ...
    Reply

    You seem to live in Tashkurgan, judging by the emotions. Then maybe you should think about salt and matches. But the devil knows from me how far, 900 kilometers, no less, you can’t get there in a day, 8 passes after all. But so far the Tashkurgan people have nothing to worry about. The fact is that even monsoons break through the ridge of the Karakorum no more than once every 10 years. For a radioactive cloud to break through, you need a big bomb like that.
    Most likely they do not have much war on the demarcation line, as usual.
    1. +4
      27 February 2019 11: 04
      Some (we will not point the finger) were impatient to test their tactics of "limited nuclear strikes" in practice, and India and Pakistan were led like ... If they wake up earlier and notice the puppeteer's strings, everything will settle down.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 15
        Exactly! By all means, stretch the Overton window, for limited use of nuclear weapons
        1. 0
          27 February 2019 11: 47
          Look for a place and participants. In theory, the United States is the first to be interested in strengthening Iran, so that Israel "banged" and see what happens from the outside, since it is also an unofficial owner of nuclear weapons, and Iran does not have the ability to respond with nuclear weapons. It is more difficult for staff members with India and Pakistan, since the conflict, although it unfrozen periodically, until the local use of nuclear weapons, the sides have not been frostbitten.
          1. 0
            27 February 2019 12: 28
            .to local use of nuclear weapons in the parties until the brains are frostbitten.
            But they are groovy winners. And all shrines untouchable with them to the devil, as well as many years of contradictions. So, if someone builds some kind of provocation, then it could blaze
    2. -1
      27 February 2019 12: 06
      Quote: Humpty
      But the devil knows from me how far, kilometers 900, no less, not a day to reach, 8 passes after all. But so far the Tashkurgan people have nothing to worry about. The fact is that even monsoons break through the ridge of the Karakorum no more than once in 10 years.
      -From Chernobyl to the Atlantic coast of France there will be more - but nevertheless there was a surge there. And it was not even an explosion, just an outburst .....
      If there is a nuclear exchange, it will be fun everywhere...
      1. +3
        27 February 2019 12: 44
        Quote: your1970
        from Chernobyl to the Atlantic coast of France there will be more

        Only the land there is almost flat, the wind does not cling to the knots. There is a very short list of those who may be the beneficiaries of a limited nuclear war. For normal people, nothing nice.
        What is considered a surge? This is about France. More precisely, to ask from what level the radiation background has increased and in how long it has returned to the natural level. In Moscow, how much is the usual background, 6 micro-roentgen? I have 20 in my apartment. At work, usually 30-65.
      2. +3
        27 February 2019 14: 07
        Quote: your1970
        Quote: Humpty
        But the devil knows from me how far, kilometers 900, no less, not a day to reach, 8 passes after all. But so far the Tashkurgan people have nothing to worry about. The fact is that even monsoons break through the ridge of the Karakorum no more than once in 10 years.
        -From Chernobyl to the Atlantic coast of France there will be more - but nevertheless there was a surge there. And it was not even an explosion, just an outburst .....
        If there is a nuclear exchange, it will be fun everywhere...

        So really, do not compare the release and explosion. Since the explosion of garbage is less than any many times
  21. +8
    27 February 2019 10: 46
    This whole flurry looks like an attempt to distract the world community from the upcoming military operation to overthrow the President of Venezuela. Now the UN Security Council will convene an emergency meeting on the flaring Indo-Pakistan conflict, and under the guise of the US MTR they will go to the active phase of their plan and the whole world will not notice it. ...
    1. +3
      27 February 2019 10: 58
      Yes hammer .. The whole world will not notice anything !!! Venezuela will be smashed to pieces, they will stir up a civil war, Madura will be uplifted or shot in a gutter, AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL NOT SEEM ANYTHING !!!
    2. +4
      27 February 2019 11: 04
      Quote: Radio engineer
      This whole flurry looks like an attempt to distract the world community from the upcoming military operation to overthrow the President of Venezuela. Now the UN Security Council will convene an emergency meeting on the flaring Indo-Pakistan conflict, and under the guise of the US MTR they will go to the active phase of their plan and the whole world will not notice it. ...

      Well, yes, a conflict of 2 nuclear powers distracts the change of power in a practically banana republic, if there were no oil, it would be 2nd Ecuador. It's like burning a summer house to distract attention from a broken vase.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 19
        Yes, the Americans (if it is, of course, their ears stick out) do not care about this "burnt out dacha", it is on another continent. And the "broken vase" (with oil, too) is at your side, it is more important
    3. 0
      27 February 2019 11: 10
      Hmm ... there is something in your words
  22. +1
    27 February 2019 10: 48
    Infa went about three downed Indian planes and one downed Indian helicopter. Pakistan Air Force casualties - one F-16.
  23. -13
    27 February 2019 10: 48
    Very cool. I stock up on popcorn. But if in the coming week they don’t smell anything nuclear, I’ll be offended by India and Pakistan.
  24. +5
    27 February 2019 10: 50
    The worst thing in this whole situation is that this conflict is not beneficial for us from the word at all.
    We support the Hindus, and Pakistan - China.
    In general, this conflict is the Yankees' dream.
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 12: 46
      Hindus support we


      Yah? belay

      They kind of muddy with America in recent years?
  25. 0
    27 February 2019 10: 52
    Video from the scene. 18+
  26. 0
    27 February 2019 10: 52
    Captive Indian pilot.
  27. +7
    27 February 2019 10: 54
    Yes ... India is not Israel ... but Pakistani air defenses are not Syrian air defenses ...)) and the United States in charge of them is not Russia ... Some bring down, others only express concern ... hi
    1. 0
      27 February 2019 11: 40
      Syria, a state torn by years of war, and it will not pull another enemy. Something Israel did not hurt, it bombed it when it was all normal with air defense))) Well, the Syrian Air Force and Air Defense compare with India, to put it mildly strange.
    2. -2
      27 February 2019 12: 09
      Quote: Tahtvjd2868
      Some shoot down, others only express concern
      -a pay attention-that they bring down FORWARDING Indian planes - weak? What Indian General Staff had to assess the possible risks?
  28. +3
    27 February 2019 11: 00
    In the photo, in my opinion, "Hawk"?
  29. +2
    27 February 2019 11: 02
    "It was a necessary step to defend the country. Prime Minister Narendra Modi gave the military freedom of action,"

    tell him, this Modi .. that it was a classic form of aggression. or the laurels of the Zionists do not give rest.
    you must defend your borders, your country. from all. aggressors, and terrorists.
    1. +5
      27 February 2019 11: 15
      So why can Israel strike at Iran’s sites in Syria, claiming that it threatens its security, and India can’t bomb a terrorist camp in Pakistan?
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 19
        The choice of the enemy is important. Syria - how will Syria respond? And if he answers, then you can still grow something to the Golan of something delicious. It's like a kitten playing with a mouse.

        There are two toothy opponents right there. India is stronger than the army, objectively - but Pakistan can and is also ready to bite.
        1. +2
          27 February 2019 11: 27
          I’m talking about something else, Israel sent international law into the furnace with its attacks on the territory of an independent state, following its big brother, who bombed the whole world without UN sanctions. So now blaming India for aggression is, at least, not nice, especially if there is objective evidence that militants from the destroyed camp are behind the attack. So this is the protection of its citizens in its purest form.
  30. +3
    27 February 2019 11: 07
    And I think our world needs this (a small nuclear war), too people have lost touch with reality ... And everyone no longer believes that the GREAT war is the END OF EVERYTHING!
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 11: 29
      Well, apparently for the sake of this they have muddied up - to check, so to speak on mice, the force of the impact of tactical nuclear weapons and the consequences of their use.
      1. +1
        27 February 2019 11: 54
        Yes, I don’t ... I don’t think, the reasons are different, it’s not yet clear that there are many theories and it is a distraction from Venezuela or something else that we do not see yet and the BRICS and primarily economic relations between Russia-India, Russia-China and weakening economies, and better of them the destruction (of course the economies) and the undermining of the authority of our military-industrial complex, while writing, thought about it, maybe all of this together is the KVD (the insidious plan (of Donald) of the Americans)?
  31. +3
    27 February 2019 11: 10
    Quote: Ascetic
    Do not forget about China, in which India is one of the main geopolitical opponents, which is expressed in the open support of Pakistan in this conflict.

    The Chinese will probably not directly get involved in the war. Sikhs are almost a direct analogue of our Cossacks, with the difference that they still go on hikes on a regular basis, they are probably already heading to areas where the Islamists can pacify. Pakistan fed the radicals too long and fat, the farther into Pakistan, the thicker the Islamists.
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 11: 31
      Rather, the mattress fed them, Pakistan only acted in a kind of feeding trough.
      1. 0
        27 February 2019 12: 53
        Quote: Lamatinets
        Rather, the mattress fed them, Pakistan only acted in a kind of feeding trough.

        Reminds modern construction, who the real owner can’t make out, contractors, they have subcontractors, etc.
  32. 0
    27 February 2019 11: 17
    https://twitter.com/RadioPakistan/status/1100668012917604353/video/1 Видео допроса индийского летчика, ну конечно никто не знает, это постановка или нет. Но летчик называет имя, звание и номер
  33. 0
    27 February 2019 11: 20
    The photo shows UBS Hawk
    1. +1
      27 February 2019 11: 30
      Photos were generally exhibited from libraries, the video is correct - but there’s a nonsense. Here came the normal photos from the plane from which the pilots captured.
      1. +2
        27 February 2019 11: 30
        Map and gun pilot.
        1. +1
          27 February 2019 11: 35
          Apparently - this photo was correct (from all previously posted - to the official materials of the Ministry of Defense with a pilot and maps) = means Hindu migrant.
  34. -1
    27 February 2019 11: 30
    As if someone had little hands that could not stand pressing a button.
  35. 0
    27 February 2019 11: 54
    The main interest in the conflict here will be China, which already has a conflict with India. With the hands of Pakistan, supporting him and selling him weapons, China will divert the main forces of the Indians to Pakistan. And it will calmly occupy the disputed territories. In this case, the United States and Russia stand up "vraskoryaku". The US will support Pakistan in the interests of China and India for balance by supplying weapons to India and Pakistan. Russia, too, will not want to spoil relations with China and India and will take the side of the peacekeeper and the supplier of weapons to all parties. Only China wins here.
  36. 0
    27 February 2019 12: 00
    Quote: Olegater
    It’s unlikely in Uigur, since the Chinese special services would not have given, rather in Taiwan

    C'mon, about 8-9 years ago, acquaintances went with a group of tourists to this district from Kazakhstan and got to the massacre there. They had the Americans deployed in a hotel on the 1st floor of the KP in the city center (the bearded ones drove onto the square directly on buses), and the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Kazakhstan got through to them when the jammers turned off like: girls, what did you drink ...
  37. 0
    27 February 2019 19: 26
    Quote: Vol4ara
    and it started in a completely different place and actually out of the blue ...

    But in general, there has been a conflict between India and Pakistan since 1947, so it is not out of the blue. There are constant skirmishes there. There were three wars between them. The last major conflict was in 1999, when the Kashmiri militants, supported by Pakistan, crossed the Control Line and gained a foothold on Indian territory. This so-called “Kargil war” ended with the victory of the Indians, who managed to recapture the territory. In general, butting constantly.
  38. 0
    27 February 2019 20: 39
    The tail is similar to the Aermacchi MB-339.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_MB-339
  39. 0
    28 February 2019 07: 47
    The war began in the media, who will interpret whom.

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