Concern Kalashnikov published TTX small-sized machine AM-17

The Kalashnikov Concern has published the technical specifications of the small-sized AM-17 assault rifle. Video опубликовано on the official website of the concern.

According to the information presented, the total length of the AM-17 assault rifle is 740 millimeters, the barrel length is 230 mm. The machine uses an 5,45X39 mm caliber cartridge. The magazine, equipped with ammunition visual inspection windows, holds 30 cartridges. The telescopic butt is folding to the right, the fire mode switches are located on both sides of the machine. Cocking handle can be located both on the right and on the left side weapons, which is very convenient for lefties, who can customize the weapon for themselves. There is a Picatinny rail that allows you to install various sights and lights on your weapon. Weight AM-17 - 2,5 kg.

A prototype AM-17 assault rifle was presented at the Army-2017 forum.

You can read more about the AM-17 machine in the material "Small-sized automatic machines AM-17 and AMB-17" on our website.

Comments

[Wild_grey_wolf]

The Concern has so many plans that you are afraid to jinx it.

Good luck in the implementation of all your plans. Smooth and smooth road.

[Halado Romane]

Well, handsome and not automatic! Good luck and further creative success to the employees of the concern!

[Tusv]

Well, handsome and not automatic!

Yes. I watched a series of Policeman from ruble, where the main poet from the short barrel, without a butt, aims at a subordinate. Ash stump would not have hit. For what lantern drew. It’s a pity that somehow it became law enforcement officers. Real Vesch for the Ministry of Internal Affairs and without picatinny strips and ammunition control

[Catfish]

5,45 for the Ministry of Internal Affairs? In an urban setting? Remind about the bullet ricochets of this cartridge? How much has already been said, but where it was - there it is. But Urya-Urya-Urya !!! The main thing is that the concern does not stand idle, and what they will sculpt there, the tenth matter!

[Tusv]

Quote: Sea Cat

5,45 for the Ministry of Internal Affairs? In an urban setting?

My ass is guarded by these stupid machine guns. In the sense, not with what they draw on the site, but what you are talking about

[Catfish]

Volodya, sorry, I did not understand. What good is not enough in the 5,45 cartridge, or in the concern itself and its politics?

[Tusv]

Quote: Sea Cat

What good is not enough in the 5,45 cartridge, or in the concern itself and its politics?

There is little good return in the eye with what the Ministry of Internal Affairs is armed with. This ideal, if you think about it

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sea Cat

5,45 for the Ministry of Internal Affairs? In an urban setting?

They can offer tankers and pilots, for example.

[parkello]

Konstantin, you are wrong. ricochet yes. Present, but depending on what bullets to shoot. there are ricochetless cartridges of his caliber, ak-74. their bullets are usually pressed in aluminum tunics (shirts). and so, for the Ministry of Internal Affairs is an excellent machine. 7,62 he is more for war than for police operations or anti-terror, which they do.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

I agree, handsome, I think if they release them, then in small batches.

[Halado Romane]

Dimensions are interesting. Live to see hold.

[Halado Romane]

I know that I’ve never seen live machines with such devices. On kumpalu, if necessary, you can shy? Who knows?

[Incvizitor]

ACR reminded me.

[VictorZhivilov]

ACR reminded me.

I'm sig.

[Incvizitor]

Here, too, similar ...

[Yrec]

They decided to gash down the replacement "Ksenia". But does it make sense?

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Outwardly, the features of the brand are guessed.
I wish you to remain original.

[Krasnodar]

Lyalka. Question with reliability.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Krasnodar

Lyalka. Question with reliability.

Kalashnikov is a brand of reliability. Let's hope that the level is not dropped.

[cniza]

This is not just a brand, it is a world brand and they cannot sit in a puddle ...

[2329 Carpenter]

Windows in the store = dirty cartridges.
But the Kalash will swallow them too.
This is not an M-16.

[lev1759]

And who said that the window is a hole? Maybe transparent plastic ...

[beeper]

Quote: lev1759

And who said that the window is a hole? Maybe transparent plastic ...

You are right, comrade!

[cosmonaut]

cocking handle on both sides ... as I understand, this is an extra hole, and an extra reason for pollution

[John22]

Reliability at SIG 552 at a high level. He has an AKM circuit revised to his standards. And they do not suffer with the receiver cover. KK also finally reached a similar design in the AM-17, only made of plastic.
Only the question is ripening - if you need small size with a short barrel, why use powerful cartridges, all the energy is not used! Use PP! Has the AK-74U operating experience really taught nothing?

[Guard division of divan troops]

I think he will find a place not only in the special forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Similar to the CP-3 in a tactical body kit.

[Nikolaevich I]

It remains only to create a 12.7-mm machine gun, a submachine gun and a Kalashnikov ... will be everywhere (!), Like Armenians in the world or Armen Dzhigarkhanyan in Soviet cinema ...

[svp67]

Yeah ... everyone is good at the "machine", only the cartridge for it is still too powerful. So much so that a significant part of its energy is simply spent on warming up the atmosphere. It would be better if they showed them chambered for 9x21 PP, and only under 9x39 ...

and another story why there is no mention of the name Kalashnikov in the name of the weapon

[Krasnodar]

fire mode switches like Galil’s, only, in my opinion, a little higher. Reminds both Galil and MP-5. More like a European weapon than a Russian one.

[2329 Carpenter]

Isn't Galil's receiver a AK?

[Krasnodar]

Here is the link
https://iwi.us/product-category/firearms/galil-ace/
Galil Ace

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Krasnodar

Reminds and Galil

The Israeli machine, developed by the designer Israel Galili on the basis of the Finnish machine Valmet Rk 62, in turn, which is a variant of the Kalashnikov assault rifle
Nevertheless, he shot from an AK with an Israeli body kit. Really more convenient.

[VictorZhivilov]

It would be better if they showed under the cartridge 9x21 PP, and already under 9x39 .....

Well, under 9x39 there is already:

And, from 9x21 you have to wait a little while ammunition manufacturers will react to the appearance of weapons under the 9x21 cartridge.

PS
I wish AM-17 long life.

[Catfish]

Well, about that and speech, Sergey. About the cartridge and its ricochets.

[polar fox]

Quote: svp67

and already under 9x39 .....

such ammunition is heavier than the machine itself ... the service was 9A91. the machine is normal, but the cartridges ...

[loki565]

Similar to MP5, only for a larger caliber

[Major_Vortex]

Quote: loki565

Similar to MP5, only for a larger caliber

The Russian has a completely different device and principle of operation. The MP5 has semi-free automation with roller deceleration in shutter operation. This automation in real combat is designed for several minutes of a soldier’s life. Such weapons are still used by police, where the requirements for the reliability of weapons are not as stringent as in the army. AM-17 is a full-fledged gas vent machine, whose roots grow from the development of MA Dragunov:

[Krasnodar]

MP 5 - gun - machine gun. For police and special forces in built-up areas.

[Major_Vortex]

Heckler und Koch released a lot of things with such automation, not just PP. Such an automatic rifle was in service with the Bundeswehr. The adoption of this rifle was dictated by the fact that "under the conditions of a modern nuclear war, a soldier lives on the battlefield for only a few minutes, but manages to shoot a little during this time" - the Germans, too, are not without a sense of humor. . At the end of the Cold War, when the Atomic Apocalypse moved all living things indefinitely, this rifle was removed from service. It is still produced as a civilian weapon. In my opinion, in Brazil or Mexico (I do not remember exactly). There are also sniper modifications for the army, and for the police, and several variants of submachine guns. MP5 is a submachine gun, but its bolt is semi-free with two rollers.

[Terenin]

Concern Kalashnikov published TTX small-sized machine AM-17

TTX is the first step. The second step is good fame in practice.

[cniza]

God grant that would not let us down.

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

Sorry. And what about the warehouses of AKSU-74 all over? I don’t understand why you need a duplicate for the same ammunition, with similar characteristics, especially for the Ministry of Internal Affairs where, as far as I know, shooting in the 5.45x39 room gives a lot of rebounds from the walls. I understand even if they did in caliber 9x19 (in fact, a submachine gun, but constructively - an automatic machine).
Hence the conclusion that the dough is cut by a concern by itself begs

[donavi49]

To AKSU - only with blue electrical tape and superglue you can screw all sorts of handles, sights and so on. We are not talking about any caste - which is prohibited by statute.

This is just the version to which the handles and sights can be screwed as much as fit on the straps.

9x19 already exists.

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

What are you going to screw, in principle, at an effective firing range of 300m? AKSU was brought to mind by designers for almost decades. This griddle is trusted only by those who believe that the new is always better than the old.

[donavi49]

Although what is screwed onto Vityaz the operator in the photo:
custom butt with adjustments
aim
Ltsu + flashlight

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

The body kits do not solve the problem of 5.45 bullet ricochets (note that you are comparing the PP and the machine gun, arguing with this photo). And I understood you correctly: in your opinion, is it easier to create a new machine from scratch specifically for the Picatinny rail than to finish the "Ksyusha" on a serial scale under the same bars?

[Glory1974]

Body kits do not solve the problem of rebounding 5.45 bullets

The "Knight" has a caliber of 9 mm.

[Confuciy]

Well, that's about it. Why make a new machine with a different cartridge when there is one suitable. The complete nonsense, if you do not take into account the factor of cutting money and heating on this hands. For the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the 9 mm

[Xscorpion]

In addition to PS bullets, there have already been about a dozen variants of 5,45 * 39 rounds of ammunition for a long time, you should not focus on what you used to shoot from. And so, yes, this is a modification of Ksyusha to the new VS requirements. The only thing that’s superfluous is this settings for right-handed, left-handed people, which leads to unnecessary increase in the cost of weapons and unnecessary cause for it, and this is an extra record that no one needs for elders and commanders, since there will be 2 shutter frames per automatic machine. So, in fact, we have right-handed people in the army They learn to shoot on the left, and left-handed people on the right, since not all shelters allow firing from a convenient hand for the shooter.

[Clone]

Quote: Bryanskiy_Volk

I don’t understand why you need a duplicate for the same ammunition, with similar characteristics, especially for the Ministry of Internal Affairs where, as far as I know, shooting in the 5.45x39 room gives a lot of rebounds from the walls.

Well, how, how ... on the new one there are so many new beautiful holes "a la foreign countries", the production of which requires certain financial investments. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as an infusion without a "cut".
Beautiful, I do not argue, but ...
Do Yudashkin, incidentally, have no relatives in the gunsmiths? And then they’ll come up with cartridges for left-handed people. I give an idea!

[Ross xnumx]

The machine uses a 5,45X39 mm caliber cartridge. The magazine, equipped with ammunition visual inspection windows, holds 30 rounds.

More recently, there was a publication by Roman Skomorokhov on the benefits of caliber 7, 62

But we have a cartridge. Sample 1943 of the year, 7,62 x 39. In 18 views. And all with the same advantages and disadvantages in the form of weight and other things. But it is able to pierce brickwork from a hundred meters to a depth of 15 centimeters, and a sheet of steel armor seven millimeters thick to pierce a BZ bullet from 300 meters.

In addition, there are:

Judging by the message in the media about the possible refusal of the RF Ministry of Defense from the patron 5,45х39, the military department of our country does not stand aloof from world trends.

I’m just wondering what this publication is dedicated to and how to consider the 5,45 caliber cartridge?
It's time to determine the caliber. There have already been publications about the dangers of the many calibers available in both small arms and artillery. I already said that, while still a lieutenant, I learned a lesson from the fuel and lubricant mix, when exactly those that were needed from the tankers on the road got stuck ... And forty years ago, the fuel and lubricant service head dreamed of universal fuel (the same for all brands of army equipment) and a minimum set of oils ...
In general, the mechanism is beautiful. And the convenience for lefties is uniquely positive. My friend (left-handed) always swore at the shooting range ...

[Gavrohs]

Nice barrel at the butt level, immediately a plus. From the fly to the rear sight a large distance is also a plus, the store is plastic (the question immediately arises of interchangeability with the ax74y! For the Ministry of Internal Affairs it is more likely aimed. It looks fresh and modern visually! (I would like to know the details, the alloy grade, the cutting step and so on. E)

[shmelik45]

It looks decent and a pound lighter than the MP-5. Try it out. MRshka honestly did not impress

[cat Rusich]

TTX AM-17 are almost the same as the AKSU-74 . Why do we need an understudy? The old woman, Ksyusha, has she already been sent to retire? Kalashnikov concern has nothing to do ? Everything rests on the picatinny rail ? Does someone have a wallet itching?

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

Would you be more careful about the K concern - it turns out to be censored on this site

[cat Rusich]

I will take note . Thank you

[beeper]

Quote: Bryanskiy_Volk

Would you be more careful about the K concern - it turns out to be censored on this site

Shaw, they wondered, Comrade Bryansk Wolf, Soul is in the heels ?!
It just means that the time for editing your message has ended ... Warnings, from experience , they don’t come in this format, but sincerely and soulfully, in PM (but sometimes it’s a good idea to update the site’s rules in memory, I also sincerely share it from my own experience, so as not to run into nothing)!
Just refresh the page on your computer and the formidable prohibition will be replaced by the final version of your comment.

[Bryanskiy_Volk]

Thank you very much for the clarification.

[RL]

Yeah, AM-17. And take it?

[Kaw]

I thought of the best name for him - MAD - a small-sized automatic Dragunov. AM does not sound.

[senima56]

This is what "public-private" enterprise means! Several revolutionary and breakthrough developments of small arms (and not only!) Weapons appeared immediately!
After all, a purely "state" enterprise is too clumsy! Until, as they say, "Fried cockerel ...."

[beeper]

Well done (the second time, after the Pistol Kozlov, they were pleasantly surprised, after all, looking at the attempts to "advance" constructively "unpromising" PYa, AK-12 (14, 15, 16, 17, ... ) and "other ...", I thought that they were completely "blown away", but no ?! ) "Concern Kalashnikov" - although they "calved" for a long time, but, finally, they were honored to launch into production (oh, have not yet been launched "into series", are they still only "experimenting" - "there is no need to be summed up"?!) the modernized design of Evgeny Fedorovich Dragunov (in turn, created in full accordance with the unfading concepts of Alexei Ivanovich Sudaev!).
It is good that the sons of Yevgeny Fedorovich, worthy successors of his rifle Cause, during their lifetime saw the rebirth and "materialization" of yet another brilliant father's creation! I am also very glad and smile, finally, "... I saw who would come ..." following the "family" of AK-the birth of his, a priori mega-viable, full-fledged Heir (if only now, for thoughtlessness or some other reason, some "effective managers" did not "splash out" such a "golden child"!)!
The "proprietary dragunovskoe" locking of the barrel into three lugs (more reliable and stable than the two "proprietary Kalashnikov" latching lugs) seems to me more promising for the market expansion of weapon systems based on it.
In general, I see in this new ("well forgotten old" layout solution ) a sample of the beginning of the implementation by "Kalashnikov gunsmiths" of a truly "universal platform" of the next "generation" of domestic small arms, with which it will be possible to work and work - in the sense of a huge "tuning and modernization design stock" of this "scheme"!
Transferring the butt attachment to the "force line" of the receiver, with an integrated "sight rail", and the barrel, as a continuation of its "rigidity", I also consider it more preferable (than in the prototype) design solution - this is "minus one hinge" between the stop shoulder and muzzle of the barrel, which, coupled with Dragunov's "backlash selection" in the forward position of the bolt carrier and the much softer "short stroke" of the automatic drive gas piston, will have a positive effect on firing accuracy. And Russian manufacturers, finally, will be able to make money on "tuning", easily (and in a wide range!) By varying-combining with the design and arrangement of components for various modifications and cartridges!
It is no secret that in the course of setting up serial production and as a result of military operation, shoals of weapons inevitably "pop up", but "in the process" they are eliminated and, through the labor and talents of many people, the deadly "product" takes on the form and properties that deservedly become a Legend - I think that even now we are all witnessing the "timid and timid" birth of yet another legendary domestic model of small arms of the XXI century ... this is my personal opinion ("so I see!" ) - I do not impose it on anyone - The future will show itself!

[silver169]

Nothing such a toy, beautiful, neat. It seems like something new, and not the 10001th reincarnation of the ancient AK-47.)) Sights on this instance of Made in USA, from Magpul, do you have enough brains to come up with something like that?

[Zaurbek]

It is necessary to do in two calibers or in 3x - 7,62x39 and 9x39 and PP 9x21.

[Maltus]

The main thing in a police machine is to break through a car. We have in Dagestan at the posts and in the crews 7.62 at least one insurer must have!

[DNkroz]

A long rail, an adjustable butt, a convenient handle, a transparent magazine, a two-way fire translator ... But all this could be done with the usual ak-74 using modkits. It wouldn’t even have to be invented (or was it invented?) There was abakan, there were Kalashnikovs with balanced automation, ake, but, apparently, the trained fighter has a minimal increase in efficiency, and the cost of construction and damage to reliability become unacceptable. Well, no one will give more expensive weapons to the untrained. And, in the end, we have, albeit a very successful design, but adopted in 47 of the last century. What changed? There was AKM, AKMS and AKMN, there are additional functions, but the same machine is basically. And everything seems to be honest. And here instead of innovation: they come up with new names. ax74-u2 or ak-74mu will not bring so much money? And in a year they will fasten the collimator and will it be am-20 already? And then sit still do nothing for a year, right?