In Kerch, the patrol ship of the 22160 project "Pavel Derzhavin" was launched

In Pavel Derzhavin, the patrol ship under construction for the Russian Navy of the 22160 project was launched in Kerch. The solemn ceremony was held at the Shipbuilding Plant Zaliv LLC (managed by the Zelenodolsk Plant named after AM Gorky JSC), the bmpd blog reports.

Patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" before launching. Kerch, 21.02.2019

The patrol ship "Pavel Derzhavin" is the third ship of the 22160 project and the second serial ship in a series of five units, as well as the first ship under construction at the Kerch GCC "Zaliv". The project of the ship was developed by JSC “Northern Design Bureau” (St. Petersburg). The contract for the construction of a series of patrol ships in the interests of the Russian Navy was concluded in 2014.

The first patrol ship under this contract (and the second in the series), Dmitry Rogachev, was launched in Zelenodolsk at the end of 2017, and towed to Novorossiysk in August 2018, where it began factory sea trials in September 2018. Now the delivery of this ship of the Russian Navy has been postponed to 2019. The second in the series “Pavel Derzhavin” and the third “Sergey Kotov” are being built in Kerch, the fourth and fifth patrol ships “Victor the Great” and “Nikolai Sipyagin” are being built in Zelenodolsk. All ships are designed for the Black Sea fleet.

The lead ship of this series of 22160 project "Vasily Bykov" was transferred to the Black Sea Fleet 20 of December 2018.

The construction of the entire series of these ships was delayed due to the import substitution of the power plant. All ships of the series, except the head "Vasily Bykov", on which the German diesel-gear units MAN are installed, will receive diesel-gear units produced by the Kolomna plant.

Comments

[bondrostov]

the good news is that such ships are very needed there, especially due to the fact that Ukraine should expect provocations with the bridge.

[Egorovich]

Good luck!!! Seven pounds under the keel !!! And all a Happy Holiday! Health, kindness and good luck !!!

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Such really good news comes every week. Russia is preparing for war and is doing it intensively. At the same time, I am sure that we do not receive even half the information about the updates.

[AU Ivanov.]

If you want peace, get ready for war! This ancient truth is still relevant today.

[VSrostagro]

Ships well done. Keep it up!
And all the servants who are still in adequate condition by February 24 are also well done.
Go to new achievements!

[Dr. Bermental]

Si vis pacem, bellum for

[bouncyhunter]

Sasha, Cheslav - I also welcome the holiday!

Quote: Egorovich

Seven pounds under the keel !!

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

Such really good news comes every week.

Good news is better than bad news. .

[Egorovich]

Pasha, be healthy friends , ! Good is always better than bad.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Egorovich

be healthy

I will, I promise, Sanya!

Quote: Egorovich

Good is always better than bad

It would be good for us to see this, and not just to know.

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Congratulations on the holiday, Pasha! I sincerely wish you all the best. Health to you and your loved ones. And of course good luck! Good luck to all of us. Just came for a holiday. I’m on duty today, but it’s possible after all ... So for you, for us and for special forces!

[bouncyhunter]

Everything is accepted for execution , proposal to switch to "you"? And "well-wishers" that are not lazy to minus let them do their job.

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Agreed! I'm glad to see you.

Quote: bouncyhunter

And the "well-wishers" who are not lazy to minus let them do their job.

Such a nature ... Let it be!

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

The nature is so ...

I will not comment, but I will say this: in your words there is a great deal of truth. Meanness is one of the features of human nature, unfortunately ...

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Thank you for your kind words, Pasha! And meanness does not need comments. She, like betrayal, is always more than obvious. I’m just convinced that you can’t pass by without getting involved. These figures should clearly know that they will always get the answer.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

meanness does not need comments. She, like betrayal, is always more than obvious.

Sorry, I can’t shake your hand.

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

I’m just convinced that you can’t pass by without getting involved. These figures should clearly know that they will always get the answer.

Abunay friend : extremely vindictive and complaints scribble much.
In PM.

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Abunay, friendly stop: extremely vindictive and complaints scribble much. yes
In PM.

Quote: bouncyhunter

Sorry I can't shake your hand

God will give a shake. You see, these minuses are not such a trifling thing. Look, minuses people put a lot for comments welcoming such good news. Well, I don't give a damn. I know people who relate to this with a contemptuous smirk and laughter. But! After all, there are enough young people on the site. Enough people are just interested and browsing the site. Of these, there are enough of those who do not have such negative experience and costs of Internet space. Seeing such a thing, they can be misled by this state of affairs and draw the wrong conclusions that so many people in Russia are not happy with the construction and commissioning of new military equipment, etc. This is no longer safe. For God's sake, if any political disagreement - put on health! At least get out of hand. But this state of affairs is accordingly either meanness or outright enemies. Although with frank it I got excited. Enemies who are impersonal, even under the profile picture, do not oppose, but quietly minus not even a specific face that is unpleasant for them, but good news for Russia!

[bouncyhunter]

There is no doubt that our dialogue with you will cause a stream of negativity (not the fact that what has been expressed). Break through, huh?

[Cheslav Tsursky]

There can be no doubt!

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

Seeing such a thing, they can be misled by this state of affairs.

Yes, you and Pasha flood here for a short ban, and the forum users are not at all interested in your healers and the rest of the flood - for this there is a personal message and a phone, we all remember how the greetings of the Inquisition mercilessly added and called it pumping. And remember that if your koment does not carry useful information, that if you just flood or pronounced koment for pluses, then I will always slap MINUS in such a way and that's right !!!

[bang bang]

Quote: Egorovich

Good is always better than bad.

not so, perhaps .... bad news, better than none, because you can expect anything from them ..... and good, they are always good Happy Holiday, Pasha

[Patriot5000]

Quote: Egorovich

Good luck!!! Seven pounds under the keel !!! And all a Happy Holiday! Health, kindness and good luck !!!

feet, actually. I understand the reservation.
and in pounds it’s weight ... for example, BB.

[faiver]

such vessels are very necessary there now

- why do They need such Ships (and not ships)?

[bondrostov]

Then, to drive Ukrainian boats from the strait.
"Ships (not ships)" I'm not a sailor, you are probably right you had to write ships.

[faiver]

this is quite successfully engaged in by frontiers, and not the Black Sea Fleet

[bondrostov]

Perhaps the calculation is that in the future there will be larger-scale provocations and the help of the fleet will be needed. In addition, I think that these ships were also built in kerch in order to load the Crimean shipyards.

[faiver]

In addition, I think that these ships were built in Kerch in order to load the Crimean shipyards

- it is not at all important where to build them, the point is that as a combat unit it is useless ...

[faiver]

Perhaps the expectation is that in the future there will be more ambitious provocations

- Ukraine has no combat units for more ambitious provocations

[bondrostov]

But Americans can throw some rubbish to them.

[musorg]

There is little help from him. A worthless ship is more suitable for border guards.

[Separ DNR]

So the Crimean shipyards have earned, and it pleases no less than the descent of the ship itself.

https://zalivkerch.com/

[faiver]

I'm not a sailor

- I, too

[donavi49]

I repeat - there is someone to drive away.

This is a special project - for patrolling in the ocean zone. The designers there crashed there to make 60 days of autonomy. You suggest keeping them in Kerch. Where their best qualities (seaworthiness, autonomy, comfort on a long trip, a helicopter in a hangar, a large amount of fuel for a helicopter) will not be expressed. But all the worst will come out:
- dubious composition of weapons
= 76mm gun for those cases a so-so solution, because according to Gyurz there will not be any special options / and this is a fundamentally different type of incident with drowning and corpses. Again, if there is a decision to heat = that is, Toothy Fireflies in the same Kerch with the same gun, there is an MPK / MRK in Kerch in rotation.
= 2 installations (on 1 on board) of the MTPU will not allow you to quickly and accurately admonish the intruder, moreover, the sailors will stand there at full height at the firing point, which sharply increases the risk of catching something in response. Even from a light rifle from the bridge of the intruder. The bullet is a fool, especially crazy.

- low thrust-to-weight ratio and dynamics, again, running characteristics are not a strong point. At Abaza, there were like pictures in the 23 region of the nodes in the tests (this is with German engines). Plus, again, dynamics, maneuverability. The firefly on duty will work on Gyurzam much more effectively in terms of running characteristics.

- the ship is not suitable for a classic assault and boarding, contours, etc. Yes, he will be able to drop the boat at full speed - but here's how Don, wipe, pick up and then drop off the assault group. It will be difficult for him. And then again, the repair is quite voluminous - this is not a couple of subbotnik crew with sledgehammers and like new, which is important for Don and even Svetlyaka.

[Lopatov]

Quote: donavi49

This is a special project - for patrolling in the ocean zone.

And where do we have such tasks?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Spade

And where

How many times have our ships been attacked by pirates and had to drive ships of the 1st rank there?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dart2027

How many times have our ships been attacked by pirates and had to drive ships of the 1st rank there?

For the fight against pirates, there are much cheaper and much more comfortable options for cutting all kinds of container ships.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Spade

options for cutting all kinds of container ships

A warship is a warship, and a container ship is a container ship. Yes, if necessary, you can remodel one into another, but it is better to avoid this.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dart2027

A warship is a warship, and a container ship is a container ship.

Cheaper and more convenient with the same efficiency

[Dart2027]

Quote: Spade

Cheaper and more convenient

Yes, not a fact. At the institute we were once told that the USSR made attempts to create dual-purpose ships and it didn’t work out very well.

[Lopatov]

Why "dual-use"? An ordinary container ship. Purely civilian.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Spade

Why "dual-use"? An ordinary container ship.

An ordinary container ship is not suitable for a database, even against pirates.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dart2027

An ordinary container ship is not suitable for a database, even against pirates.

Come on, why are we worse than the British ...

[Dart2027]

Quote: Spade

why are we worse than the british

Let's just say "fish without fish and cancer". But "fish" is still better.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Dart2027

But "fish" is still better.

I'm afraid this is more likely "neither fish nor meat" And at the price of a smuggled ham

[donavi49]

When this project was done, it was task No. 1 for the fleet. If you do not know, then for example, they died in the fight against pirates (okay, they went into a lengthy repair):
- BOD Admiral Chabanenko, one of the newest BNK 1 rank in the Navy.
- TFR Undaunted - which has been under repair since 2014. Perhaps they will have time to turn in to 2020.
- the mass of BOD, flew to the 2-3 of the year for repair.
- TFR Yaroslav the Wise, the most modern combat ship in the fight against pirates, caught an incident with a turbine, from which 1,5 of the year was under repair + 1 was then repaired.

So, in order not to bury the 1 BNK of the rank in distant seas, this project was ordered. He combined:
- autonomy and seaworthiness of BNK 1 rank.
- fuel supply for the BNK 1 helicopter rank.
- excellent habitability for the crew.
- Adequate (although in doubt, again 2 MTPU, when other similar ships 2-4 rapid-firing guns with centralized control) weapons to combat pirates.
- a high resource for all systems (relevant for the initial project with the German power), a high estimated daily rate in the campaign / year.

[Lopatov]

Quote: donavi49

When this project was done, it was task number 1 for the fleet.

As for me, we don’t have much money to create such specific ships.

[Sky]

Quote: donavi49

If you do not know, then for example, they died in the fight against pirates (okay, they went into a lengthy repair):

please explain, is it that there were damage as a result of rams or was the resource exhausted due to long patrols?

[donavi49]

Resource knocked out. Which became even more complicated after 2014 = because with Turbines (repairs) everything became more complicated. As a result, queues for repairs formed - or contractors without competencies, for example, the same Undaunted:
- When will you return the Undaunted to the fleet?
- Work on the escort ship Fearless continues, and there are more of them than originally planned. The ship's fault detection revealed the need for a significant increase in the volume and scale of repairs. In addition, it was necessary to entrust the engine repair to another counterparty, since the previous one could not cope with it.

[Sky]

I see. Thanks. In this sense, ships are really needed simpler, with a large resource and low cost of operation, it is not the business of the BOD to drive.

[Vadim Golubkov]

So you want to say that the pirates on the boats destroyed these ships? Or am I not understanding something?

[donavi49]

Partially - the dalnyks knocked out resources, as a result of the repair. Since 2013 of the year, Chabanenko has stood heartless in the plant and with doubtful prospects to get out of there at all. Undaunted - since 2014, it’s been worth it — I brought the leader out of the way (the base contractor could not restore the turbines). The current term is November, 2019 of the year. Wise - burned the 1,5 turbine of the year immediately under repair (the most modern ship over 5000 in the Navy) and then another 1 year of repeated repairs. Well, the rest:
- Tributs - 4 of the year flew into the repair.
- Shaposhnikov 1,5 of the year and now for a long time (already 4 year).

[Marconi41]

Quote: Spade

And where do we have such tasks?

For example, in the Gulf of Aden. Drive pirates, show the very flag. And more is not necessary.

[tchoni]

Yes, near the same Tartus, the sea should be checked for the presence of "sworn friends" boats.

[poquello]

Quote: faiver

such vessels are very necessary there now

- why do They need such Ships (and not ships)?

what kind? modular?

[faiver]

modular?

- especially when there are no modules

[poquello]

Quote: faiver

modular?

- especially when there are no modules

can you tell in more detail what is so funny about modules?

[faiver]

everything is simple - there are modular ships, but there are no modules themselves and whether they will be a big question, in the end we get a ship with a displacement in 1,5th. tons with a single 76mm gun, a sort of artillery oversized boat ...

[poquello]

Quote: faiver

everything is simple - there are modular ships, but there are no modules themselves and whether they will be a big question, in the end we get a ship with a displacement in 1,5th. tons with a single 76mm gun, a sort of artillery oversized boat ...

what do you mean "will"? as I understand it, it was the main task, the trough is the same filling any

[donavi49]

Specifically, these ships are not needed there. Two toothy Fireflies - which have overtaken from the White Sea - this is a gain.

They will make Gyurzu both on the maneuver and on the move.

And the composition of their weapons is better. And dynamic performance. And in general, the ship itself - more adapted will fall out of alarm on the 2-3 daily BS. And in Azov they are more comfortable.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: donavi49

They will make Gyurzu both on the maneuver and on the move.

It’s not about "gyurzah" ... In Odessa, 2 British tubs are busy - it seems that they were also drawn to provocations. Maybe they will come along with the "gyurzes" ...

[donavi49]

And what's the difference? Pushing - 22160 = bad helper. Battles at water cannons - so there are really no water cannons. Again by. Demonstrate a threat - so again, there is nothing special, the same cannon at the Svetlyak Arkhangelsk + in Kerch has an RTO on duty on rotation, it can demonstrate more convincingly. Sink the british? So again - there are better options, of those small ships that are already part of the Black Sea Fleet.

[Misha Honest]

Quote: donavi49

And what's the difference? Pushing - 22160 = bad helper. Battles at water cannons - so there are really no water cannons. Again by. Demonstrate a threat - so again, there is nothing special, the same cannon at the Svetlyak Arkhangelsk + in Kerch has an RTO on duty on rotation, it can demonstrate more convincingly. Sink the british? So again - there are better options, of those small ships that are already part of the Black Sea Fleet.

There, do not push around, but shoot faster) Only fig to kill - so that they no longer climb.

[Katanikotael]

You wrote above about the killed resource of ships on patrol, but you say that these ships intended for patrolling should not be in the Black Sea flotilla ... And where should they be in the Baltic Fleet?
The place of registration does not indicate that they will hang out in the Black Sea, it just so happened that they get closer from the Black Sea to those places where they should patrol and chase pirates.

[Chertt]

Quote: bondrostov

such ships are now very necessary there, especially due to the fact that Ukraine should expect provocations with the bridge.

Project 22160 ships have completely different tasks. These are patrol ships of the far sea zone.
Their task is to protect the interests of Russia, away from their homeland. For this, both a displacement of 1500 tons and corresponding autonomy and hangars for a helicopter and UAV. etc
And the brothers with their pelvis and border guards deliver excellently to Russian ports. For this, the border ships of project 22460 "Hunter" are intended.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Chertt

Project 22160 ships have completely different tasks. These are patrol ships of the far sea zone.

Duc, perhaps later some of them will be transferred to other fleets. And now, if anything, and in the Mediterranean for them "hack" is found.

[Chertt]

Quote: Paranoid50

And now, if anything, and in the Mediterranean for them "hack" is found.

About that and the conversation And then there are wiseacres in comments, dream to send 22160th. Sumerian violators to drive.

[faiver]

in the Mediterranean for them "hack" is found.

- can you give an example of this hack?

[Leopold]

Sasha Happy holiday There is a full-fledged job.

[Paranoid50]

Sergey, mutually! Duc, and I'm talking about the same thing - I took the hack in quotes.

[Gogia]

We need 22380 and 22350 and 23580 !!! And faster.

[faiver]

I do not even know whether to rejoice or grieve, useless combat unit ...

[Alex 2016]

Poachers and pirates to drive. He is not capable of more. Neither for conventional weapons, nor for RTV. But better than a traveling boat or tugboat.

[faiver]

in the Black Sea, border guards deal with this quite successfully

[bondrostov]

Well, for example, others in the Sea of ​​Azov are not needed yet you can drive Azov pirates (Ukrainian Navy) perfectly.

[faiver]

there border reinforcements

[Chichikov]

Quote: faiver

I do not even know whether to rejoice or grieve, useless combat unit ...

Well, yes, only we are fools ... but why the hell, in your opinion, did the UK start building coastal zone patrol ships of the "River-2" class, or maybe the international group of shipyards "Damen", also foolishly produces patrol ships of the series 2600, 2400, 1800? Maybe it's not enough for you that even US naval experts have noted our project 22160 - "a rather ingenious design" and "huge combat power in a small size."
The project is unique and in demand! On it in a short time, changing modules, you can install any weapon required to perform a specific combat mission. Artillery armament consists of an automatic 76 mm cannon. And as a missile can be both multipurpose "Calibers", and purely anti-ship. The draft of the ship allows it to operate not only in the open sea, but also in bays, as well as in the channels of large rivers. The speed varies from 16 knots - patrol, up to 30 knots - maximum. The ship has 80 equipped berths that can be used by the crew - in terms of number it is less than this figure, as well as the units attached to the ship - the marines.

[faiver]

even US naval experts commented on our project 22160 - "a rather ingenious design" and "enormous combat power in a small size."

- Americans praise leads to some thoughts. This project has been discussed more than once, nothing good is in it ...

[Alex 2016]

Where are these weapons modules? According to project papers there are many of them and is described beautifully. But in real life, where? When will they be and in what quantity? Or will it be like with many more worthy ships, there is a ship, there is a place for installation, but there is no armament ... (some pr.61, 1155 and some others)

[210ox]

Any combat unit is useful. Although their purpose, and hence the armament, inspires doubt. First of all, for the Black Sea, several border ships of the "Firefly" type or the same "Emerald" are needed

[Chichikov]

Quote: 210ox

First of all, for the Black Sea, several border ships of the "Firefly" type or the same "Emerald" are needed

Border guards "work" only in their territorial waters !!!!!

[210ox]

I agree with you. But it is stated above that she should sink ukrolokhanki. And in the Black Sea outside the territorial waters of this ship, in fact, there is really no work at present. Although the same offshore platforms need to be protected. For "meeting on guard" NATO ships are different funds are needed.

[Chichikov]

Quote: 210ox

For "meeting on guard" of NATO ships, other means are needed.

The "Calibers" available on them will be quite enough for the Notovites to "pick up"!

[210ox]

On "Bykov" "Calibers"? No, of course there are places behind the wheelhouse for the installation of containers ..

[faiver]

but in the exclusive economic zone, isn't it?

[Piramidon]

All ships of the series, except for the head Vasily Bykov, on which the German MAN diesel-reduction units are installed, will receive diesel-reduction units manufactured by the Kolomna plant.

Now let MAN say thanks for the unearned profit to those who imposed sanctions.

[Separ DNR]

Quote: Piramidon

Now let MAN say thanks for the unearned profit to those who imposed sanctions.

Not just introduced, but also pulled their ears to this matter ...

[Lopatov]

Germans...
They can block the faucet without any sanctions. Even to their NATO allies (as an example, Turkey)

There was no need to contact such optional guys at all. Well, or it was necessary to introduce gigantic fines, so that it would not be offensive.

[petrol cutter]

Zelenodolsk captured the "Zaliv"?! .. Where is this world heading ?! This is a turn! ... Go crazy. Some kind of heavenly will now dictate such a shipyard how to live and what to do? ...
Our plant was taken over by Pella from St. Petersburg. They themselves do nothing, and they do not give us anything.

[210ox]

Are you out of your mind? Or is the holiday in full swing? And it wasn't Zelenodolsk or Peter that captured it ... But Big Money. And they are in Moscow. Well, in this case, they are at least working in the right direction. Sorry if I offended you.

[petrol cutter]

We are out of our minds. And the factory was squeezed out and behind the fence. From the first day. We were not needed. Assemblers, welders. Such a squiggle. What should I feed my family ?! I work alone.

[210ox]

What kind of plant was squeezed out? I wondered why specialists in such industries were no longer needed. By the way, for "doing nothing" "Pella" ... They are building RTOs.

[petrol cutter]

The answer is expanded. Pella has leased our manufacturing facilities to build her ships. Attracted us, that is, we transferred to Pella from the plant "More". We cooked for 10-12 hours to complete the defense order 22800, and we cooked ... Now Pella informs us that we do not need your services further. So, goodbye, bye! ..
And our plant has its own portfolio of orders, but now through "Karakurt" for which we didn’t move, and which will now stand as a dead weight until the new brooms, we cannot proceed to further work. And Pella couldn't think of anything smarter than downsizing. First, the money was cut for salary, to hell with him, they kept silent, survived, then on you
Modified however.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Petrol cutter

And Pella did not come up with anything smarter than downsizing.

It's called the buzzword "Optimization". I wonder why our bourgeoisie do not build yachts in our factories?

[BAI]

1. In light of recent events - in the Black Sea, ships with a reinforced hull are needed - for a ram.
2.

on which are installed Germanic MAN diesel gear units

Probably - "German" is somehow more harmonious.

[Chichikov]

Quote: BAI

In light of recent events - in the Black Sea, ships with a reinforced hull are needed - for a ram.

And also, to return trilineyki with a triangular bayonet ...

[faiver]

And also, to return trilineyki with a triangular bayonet ...

-

[210ox]

No, ancient Roman triremes will do ..

[Sky]

Quote: BAI

1. In light of recent events - in the Black Sea, ships with a reinforced hull are needed - for a ram.

is it that they ram each other more efficiently, like Don perforated the Emerald?)

[BVS]

From wikipedia.
Germany (German: Deutschland), the official name is the Federal Republic of Germany (German: Bundesrepublik Deutschland), Germany (German: BRD) - a state in Central Europe.
The Germans (German: Deutsche) - a people descended from the ancient Germans, the main population of Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Liechtenstein.

[Vasyan1971]

If the Americans were amazed, it was like "the newest Russian corvette of Project 22160 has a" genius enough "design that provides tremendous combat power with a small ship size." and other praises began to sing, then this is a reason to think.
But late. The process has begun.

[Fantazer911]

All the holiday men!
23.02.2019

[Galleon]

Project 22160 patrol ship. Cost - 6 billion rubles.
weaponry
Artillery weapons - AK-176MA with the ability to destroy sea, coastal and air targets. Ammunition - 152 shots in the tower and 152 shots in the cellar.
For air defense and missile defense is expected use Igla-S MANPADS (set up to 8 pcs) and REP equipment.
Radar "Positive-MK"
For anti-sabotage defense, the project installed two remotely-controlled grenade launchers DP-65 and two 14,5 mm MTPU machine-gun mounts. The ship is also equipped with two manual anti-sabotage grenade launchers DP-64.
On the ship declared the possibility of installing modular container armaments and equipment, including Caliber cruise missiles, but currently the fleet has no such systems, only diving containers are widely used from container equipment.
Result: 6 billion for the radar, 1 barrel 76mm and 2pcs. 14.5mm machine gun. Decide for yourself. But if some land military man doubts the ratio of price and firepower, I will have nothing to answer as a sailor. My project 956 destroyer cost 70 million Soviet rubles, and there was something to show from my pants.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Galleon

My project 956 destroyer cost 70 million Soviet rubles

The salary of 150 rubles was now about 70-80 thousand, that is, the ruble has changed about 467-533 times (I judge by life, not by the official rate). We multiply by 70 million and we get 32,7-37,3 billion.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Dart2027

The salary in 150 rubles was as now approximately 70-80 thousand,

Interestingly you counted. Thus, we can say that today's average pension (14 thousand) is equal to 30 rubles, which in the USSR were paid to poor students.

[UA3QHP]

And then the AI-93 for 40 kopecks. liter smoothly turns .... Gasoline is very cheap.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ua3qhp

And then AI-93

Petrol prices do not interest me, I am not a driver, and the figures are taken from the calculation of the ordinary philistine life - food, clothing, rent, etc.

[Kharkiv]

Fine. For the protection of the Azov and Black Sea from all kinds of measles, it suits well

[Prost Stas]

The Black Sea? You and him to your "primordially Russian lands" ... oh, the water areas ranked?

[Kharkiv]

Naturally. The original name of the Black Sea is the Russian Sea. Google before publicly disgracing

[Prost Stas]

Russian from the word Rus, and not from the word Russia, for that is how it was called from the XNUMXth to the XNUMXth century A.D. And if you have at least a basic knowledge of history, you will understand that in the XNUMXth century a state called Russia did not even exist in the project ... So you, too, would not hurt to go into Google before shouting "urrryayayaya" ...

[Katanikotael]

The Russian Federation received all the rights to the legacy of the Soviet Union and Russia in addition to their debts, so shut up in a rag and don’t bother who owns what!

[Prost Stas]

Debts of Russia? Did you write this under the Argentine "fly", or did I misunderstand something? By the way, you are fans of the cult of "USSR debts" about which you remember at any opportunity, always forget very in time that with these preconditioned "USSR debts" you also received the territory with the largest amount of resources in the world, and almost the most developed industry. Yes, the whole dispute did not begin because of this ... It's just very interesting to hear how the Black Sea, which has been declared a zone of free navigation, suddenly turns out to be a primordially Russian water area ... At such a pace we can say that since the territory on both banks of the Bosphorus belongs to the Turks, then this is a reason not to release your ships into the Mediterranean

[AAK]

In Soviet times, BODs 1134 and 1135 were built on the Zaliv, as well as tankers up to 100 tons. and ocean-going trawlers. The only question is that little is left of that "Zaliv" in 000 Ukrainian years. On the one hand, it's good that at least they started building such ships, on the other hand, project 23 really only drives Somali barmaley, and so useless for the fleet, almost like in Galygin's humoresque - ... and the Italians also have a tank "Nina Ricci ", does not drive, does not shoot, but very handsome ...

[Vadim237]

Coast Guard ship - what you want from it.

[Lamatinets]

And the guarantor said that there is no return to socialism.

[Elephant]

Quote: AAK

The only question is that little is left of that "Zaliv" in 23 Ukrainian years.

There is a huge dry dock on the Zaliv. Everything else, starting from 2014, could be restored and modernized. But with the restoration and construction of industrial facilities in Crimea, somehow it is not very ...

[APASUS]

What a bulb of unusual shape, something like a bistatic sonar?

[AAK]

in my opinion there is no HOOK at all, if there is, it is only weak active, so there are no anti-submarine weapons on the ship itself ...

[LeonidL]

If it is fully modular, then depending on the task to be solved, you can put everything or almost everything, but most likely PLO is really not his hypostasis.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Project 22160 patrol ships are Russian patrol ships of a modular type, a distant sea zone, developed in the Northern Design Bureau and built at the A. Gorky Zelenodolsk Plant to replenish the naval fleet of Russia.

In terms of characteristics and tasks, the ships of the project are close to multifunctional offshore patrol vessels (OPV, MSOPV), which are popular recently in many fleets of the world.

Designed for patrolling the protection of territorial waters, patrolling the 200-mile exclusive economic zone in open and closed seas, stopping smuggling and piracy, searching and assisting victims of maritime disasters, environmental monitoring of the environment in peacetime, guarding ships and ships at the crossing by sea, as well as naval bases and water areas in order to warn of an attack by various enemy forces and equipment - in wartime, as well as operations in the distant sea and ocean zones.

This is from Wiki, in my opinion a good patrol ship and can fight with pirates and guard the base in Syria, while other ships replenish supplies and crews rest.

[Lamatinets]

Yes, it remains only to applaud, and the fleet will increase. and give Crimeans a job and a nose to whom whom we morn. Now, with completion, you wouldn’t be tempted.

[LeonidL]

Kerch plant "Zaliv" is reviving! Thank God! Under the years of power, the Squares disappeared and almost disappeared. Glad for Kerch! I remember in Soviet times what kind of ships and vessels were built there, how life was in full swing.

[Tomich3]

GOOD LUCK TO YOU Sailors!

[Grievous]

Where are the Gauges?

[next322]

Quote: Grievous

Where are the Gauges?

on exhibition mock-ups

[viktor.]

The construction of the entire series of these ships dragged on due to import substitution of the power plant. (Good news!) The mind can not understand Russia! and it is TRUE. Russia is building the world's best nuclear power plants around the world, building some of the best in the world Airplanes, Submarine fleet, Leading in space and purchasing Primitive Gearboxes and Internal Combustion Engines Abroad!

[Dart2027]

Quote: viktor.

Mind does not understand Russia

With the collapse of the USSR, their production was abroad.

[Demagogue]

It's a pity Mina was banned, it would be much more fun in this thread))

[BVS]

Quote: Separ DNR

So the Crimean shipyards have earned, and it pleases no less than the descent of the ship itself.

https://zalivkerch.com/

So maybe you need to do it easier - just give these shipyards money. And that’s all!

[Elephant]

At the time of the Kerch "Zaliv", larger ships were made, icebreakers, tankers, dry cargo ships. They have a fairly large dry dock there. The facilities for the construction of warships and boats are also available in Feodosia and Sevastopol. It is necessary to modernize production and give more orders to the Crimea!

[YOUR]

Why have we stopped building ocean ships?

[Desperado]

If in a nutshell, long and expensive. Current repairs last from 4 to 7 years. Lack of capacity, personnel, equipment, a bunch of intermediaries, a curve of logistics, this list can still be continued. The result is visible: we do not build above the frigate, only modernizations and repairs ...

[YOUR]

For that, there are how many victorious online broadcasts.