In the PRC announced the mass production of engines with thrust vector control

Materials appeared in the Chinese media stating that the developers in the PRC “have fully mastered the process of creating aviation engines with variable thrust vector (DIVT) ". In particular, in Sina Military It is a statement by Chinese expert Yang Wei, who claims that mass production of engines with a variable (controlled) thrust vector in China is "in full swing."

According to him, the upgraded versions of these engines will soon be installed on Chinese fifth-generation fighter jets (4, according to the Chinese nomenclature) J-20, which “will significantly increase their maneuverability and add new capabilities, including the use of air weapons -air".

It is noted that China thus becomes a member of a small group of countries that create thrust vectoring controlled engines. At the same time, the expert notes that with their engines, Chinese manufacturers will be able to enter international markets, competing with Russia and the United States.

From the statement of Yang Wei:

China can use thrust vectoring engines on virtually any fighter. It is expected that in the near future, such engines will be equipped with J-10, J-16 and J-20.

For your information:

J-16 - a multipurpose Chinese fighter with a radar equipped AFAR. This aircraft is positioned as the Chinese version of the Russian Su-35 multi-role fighter.

J-20 - Chinese aircraft of the fifth generation with the technology "stealth". Earlier it was reported that the J-20 will be able to get Chinese engines to the 2020 year.

It is the lack of its own engines for fighters of this type in China called the main problem of aircraft industry.

Comments

[Tashkent citizen]

Well done Chinese! This is to be expected.

[Uncle lee]

lack of own engines

Here we have overcome this barrier .....

[novel66]

and AFAR they have ....

[Grandfather]

someone recently wrote here that for ten years the Chinese OVT will not do. but from their "evolution", as it is not at ease.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Dead Day

someone recently wrote here that for ten years the Chinese OVT will not do. but from their "evolution", as it is not at ease.

Yes, it doesn’t feel at ease not only from their evolution, but from its pace, as well as from the turtle inhibition of the processes within our country.
This is what the life-giving socialist idea does in spite of the death penalty ...

[alexmach]

Yes, it’s not at ease not so much from their evolution as from its pace

And what is surprising there? The most common pace is that people work and get results. It is no different from the pace of Soviet industrialization. That's what Russia wants in the 21st century to go on the achievements of grandfathers and grandmothers, this is sad.

[Roma 1977]

It depends on what parameters and resource they have. There is an opinion that it is much worse than Russian.

[donavi49]

Yes. Well, for example, the J-10 thrust-weight ratio is enough for twisting aerobatics like Drying with UVT at an air show.

Resource - this can be compensated by the production and supply of engines. We operate on the resources of the average MiG-21 and MiG-23. Was the USSR unarmed with a low resource of engines of that generation? Or was this fixed regularly by replacing the engines on the carousel - put the new one - old (2) to sort the factory - the original (3) is already at the delivery workshop and will soon be put as a backup / replacement for exhaustion of the new (1) resource?

[Roma 1977]

But not in the case when the service life of a new engine at maximum thrust is only 1 hour.

[Vlad.by]

Exactly! Keyword - RESOURCE!
Copying parts with micron precision and assembling them together according to the model does not mean getting a ready-made, working engine.
Material science while the Achilles heel of the Chinese.
Let's see ...

[PROXOR]

So they themselves did not. SU-35e received, licked into the clean nozzle deflection system itself. They themselves could not.

[AU Ivanov.]

Only the resource of these engines is only for gaining air supremacy in the area of ​​the short-range drive and for flying over the Tiananmen Square in the parade.

[Svarog]

Quote: Tashkent

Well done Chinese! This is to be expected.

I am not happy with such news .. The Chinese are rapidly gaining strength in all areas, but for now we are screaming about friendship with them, they are introducing sanctions to us, together with the Americans ...

[widower]

Quote: Svarog

The Chinese are rapidly gaining power in all areas,

stop
But nothing, what is it against striped?
but nothing that shallow-shaven air troughs all over the world muttered to send there, and then wipe off "we were joking"

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: widower

stop
But nothing, what is it against striped?
but nothing that shallow-shaven air troughs all over the world muttered to send there, and then wipe off "we were joking"

But nothing, that for seven miles of jelly do not go to slurp? And nothing that the US Chinese diaspora is more than one million? But is it nothing that from the Urals to the Far Eastern Federal District the population of the country (37) is thirty-nine times smaller than in China?

[Nastia makarova]

is it okay that the population is smaller or think that China will attack ???

[IGOR GORDEEV]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

is it okay that the population is smaller or think that China will attack ???

Who knows? Communist China attacked communist Vietnam in the last century. And the conflict with the USSR (Damansky Island) is somehow difficult to forget.

[Nastia makarova]

if Russia is without nuclear weapons it will attack

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: IGOR GORDEEV

Communist China to Communist Vietnam. AND

Is communism really built? And I did not know that!

[widower]

Quote: ROSS 42

But nothing, that for seven miles of jelly do not go to slurp?

and what kind of jelly did they choke?
didn’t even reach

And nothing that the US Chinese diaspora is more than one million?

that's why they do not jerk to china

But nothing from the Urals to the Far Eastern Federal District

and the fact that the Army does not need it, the Police do not need it, is not necessary at all. TEAM and all this will be carried out who will remain alive.

[alexmach]

I am not happy with such news ..

AND? What do you specifically suggest?

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Tashkent

Well done Chinese! This is to be expected.

Do you think the Chinese are arming against the United States ??
Do not be naive. There is nothing to rejoice at! This is our foe!

[snake]

Quote: Tashkent

Well done Chinese! This is to be expected.

What do these Chinese allow themselves ?! That way Russia in the defense industry is no longer proud. Still, there is something in these executions of corrupt officials in the PRC ...

[123456789]

Quote: Tashkent

Well done Chinese! This is to be expected.

When they were selling the Su-35!

Kommersant: Russia and China signed a contract for the supply of Su-35
19 November 2015,

[raw174]

Interestingly, is it their development or spied? And if you spied, brought something of your own?

[Yngvar]

Clear business - communized!

[donavi49]

WS-10B - engine source. And they did it, taking everything from everyone so ...

[rocket757]

Without a difference, they achieve / do everything they need!
This is the gossip of politics, influence and effort!

[Errr]

Most likely the article is about the WS-10 TVC engine. You can watch a video of the J-10B flight with this engine at China Airshow 2018 last November in Zhuhai: How good this motor is, time will show, as always. But we can say with great confidence that it was made, so to speak, with an eye on the Russian AL-41F1S, produced by UMPO since 2010.

[Mountain shooter]

Another PR? 555 message about "MIGHTY VICTORY", while "Salyut" continues to supply engines for dryers in the same quantity ... Even Al-31, which have long been produced under license in China ... Now they just "quietly" deliver. No pump.

[RUSS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Another PR?

The Irish airline CityJet refused to operate the Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft. CityJet is the only European company that operated the Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100. It was planned to deliver 15 aircraft to Ireland under the contract, but there were only seven aircraft in the airline’s fleet.

[Mountain shooter]

So what? And they asked why? Because the vaunted French engine turned out to be ... To put it mildly, unreliable. And the French do not want to accept complaints from disrupting the supply of spare parts for repair ... Well? But ALL certificates "the Frenchman" is!

[NEOZ]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

while "Salute"

maybe attach the documents, in confirmation of your words ...

[spektr9]

In the Chinese media, materials appeared, which say that the developers in the PRC "have fully mastered the process of creating aircraft engines with variable thrust vector (DIVT)." In particular, the Sina Military cites a statement by the Chinese expert Yang Wei, who claims that the serial production of engines with a variable (controlled) thrust vector in China is "in full swing"

Well done, what to say

[NEOZ]

in a strange way coincided with export deliveries of these engines to China ....

[Mentat]

Quote: donavi49

Yes. Well, for example, the J-10 thrust-weight ratio is enough for twisting aerobatics like Drying with UVT at an air show.

Will the examples follow?

[Victor1]

And two years have not passed, as they gave them the first batch of SU35.
They openly said that they needed this aircraft in order to gain access to the engines, in order to copy and build their own on their basis.
They sold 24 SU35, and now, the Chinese have not only received their analogue of the engine, but they will also be our competitors in the arms market.
Is their engine less reliable and less resource?
This is at the moment, and they are making steady progress in this direction.
And most importantly, they can compensate for the quality, quantity.
Another 5 years will pass and they will overcome all problems in engine building and they will already have their own engine, and Russia will again be out of work.
Need money for those 24 planes? it wasn’t worth giving the Chinese the engine technology.
For the sale of such technologies to the wall you need to put, this is a betrayal.

[Winnie76]

The Chinese, instead of inventing a new one, copy the old alien. Vicious path

[Andrey Nikulnikov]

Not invented, and finally it turned out to copy. All this time they tried to reproduce our engines with a variable thrust vector. Happened. But this is not the engine that ours is preparing for the Su-57. But we definitely won’t supply this engine to them - the guys themselves, since they themselves are so cool.

[Prahlad]

They will put it! On the paw, whoever needs to be given everything!

[Fantazer911]

Yes, well done, after they rivet copies, then why not, and copies, as is known from Russian existing products, cannot create their own and do not care that the product is not of their development but is actually stolen, that is, copied

[Power]

It is necessary to arm China, let the United States spend energy on containing the celestial. And to arm India, let China restrain it. Let China hold back the United States. Let everyone restrain each other. And not just one RF butting with NATO.

[bmv04636]

Here, many accuse Urya of patriotism based on our media such as a star, etc. And right there they call for bread with the delight of a short note like China learned to make engines with a variable thrust vector, there are no characteristics or facts in the note, but a link to a Chinese expert and the media (although they are the same in China and the hedgehog in China)

[bmv04636]

Here is a bunch of glider engine controls

[Spiridonovich2]

One thing is good, the Chinese do not need to attack colonial, defenseless Russia. They can get Russian territories in unlimited quantities for free or for little money. Already sold 337 square kilometers - the islands of Tarabarov and Bolshoi Ussuriysky. They gave the taiga for plunder, gold mines, Lake Baikal. It's only the beginning.

[ded_mazai]

Polymers are everywhere!

[Vlad5307]

At the same time, the expert notes that with their engines, Chinese manufacturers will be able to enter international markets, competing with Russia and the United States.

They will be able to get out if they bring the engine resource to comparable with the Russian Federation and the USA. Still, the Chinese love to share the skin of an unkilled bear. And it will take a lot of time to pair the engine with the gliders of all kinds of Gs.
Ours on the Su-57 engine. The 2nd stage has been driven for almost a year and the end of the tests has yet to be planned by the beginning of the 20th year.

[wisealtair]

Quote: IGOR GORDEEV

Who knows? Communist China attacked communist Vietnam in the last century. And the conflict with the USSR (Damansky Island) is somehow difficult to forget.

If you look at the map of the population of China, you can find out that almost no one lives in the north of China, and most of the population is concentrated in an area the size of France.
You can’t see the Chinese hordes, which are bursting with internal pressure, like a heated can of canned food. On the Sino-Russian border, huge sparsely populated territories - and these are Chinese territories. Almost all the Chinese concentrated in the southeast and Siberia did not give them up.