Ukrainian Su-24M bombers will arm cruise missiles

In the near future, the Ukrainian Air Force will receive an air variant of the anti-ship Neptune missile developed in the interests of the Defense Ministry, said Luch’s director general Oleg Korostelev.

As stated by Korostelev, the development of the air variant of the anti-ship missile "Neptune" is in second place after the development of the coastal complex. An air carrier has already been identified for the missile under development - it will be a Su-24M bomber. According to the Ukrainian developers of the rocket, the Su-24M is perfectly suited as the carrier of a cruise missile, since it is a fairly powerful and heavy machine. Designing a new rocket is scheduled to begin this year.

This year we will start designing. And next year we plan to move to the practical implementation

- declared Korostelev.

The director general of the design bureau recalled that the ground version of the Neptun missile complex will be ready early next year. It is created to cover the waters of the Black and Azov Seas. At the same time, the launch of a cruise missile is expected. Development of the complex will cost approximately 20 million dollars, he added.

Korostelev also said that over the next two years, a ship complex based on RCC will also be developed. It is planned to use a Lan-type missile boat as a platform for its deployment.

Comments

[new max]

It’s clear. The pre-election fervor. The non-flying PCR Neptune has already been recorded in cruise missiles. Oh, floodlights, floodlights.

[VSrostagro]

There (in Black and Azov) our boys swim (and not talk on the couch).
Even in Palestine, rockets are riveted on their knees ...
The level of technology for PPH is of course different, but Yuzhmash works ...
Let’s hope that the process drags on, and there’s either the paddies ... or the boats and the Su-24 will die out.

[Sneaky Urus]

Yuzhmash is not here at all. The engine R-95 for the X-35 did and can do MotorSich. We do turbojet engines on Saturn. It is not clear where the Ukrainians will take the GPS and the radio altimeter.
Why only the Su-24? Hanging up on the MiG-29 also does not allow an oblique?

[VSrostagro]

Yuzhmash gave as an example the presence of rocket technology, he simply wanted to slow down the hat-takers.
I hope that the western "partners", for their own safety, will not help the "non-brothers" with the GOS.

[Antares]

Quote: VSrostagro

I hope that the western "partners", for their own safety, will not help the "non-brothers" with the GOS.

if in parts of the RCC then
The homing head is its own (Radionics). Starting accelerator - your own. Transport and launch container - your own ("Vazar").
Partners do nothing to help in this matter. All by yourself.

[StudentVK]

Yes, in theory, Ukraine, even with the remaining technologies, could do something worthwhile, but you do not take external factors seriously. This is from the series how the Americans (primarily they) took away their nuclear weapons. It is not good for the serf to have something serious, but especially his own production.

[Aibolit]

Quote: Sneaky Urus

Yuzhmash is not here at all.

Kharkov Aviation Plant (in 2013-2014 created several copies by order of Russia for its missiles). A complete set of design and production documentation for the Uran missile was handed over to them

Quote: Sneaky Urus

Why only the Su-24? Hanging up on the MiG-29 also does not allow an oblique?

Need
APU-78 or AKU-58 on a carrier
if there is, then they will put on MIG 29

[TermNachTer]

The motor does not make the P-95 for a long time, there are no buyers. It seems that they even dismantled the toolkit.

[Mimoprohodil]

Make type MC400. And so harmlessly described its application.

The engine is designed for subsonic civil unmanned aerial vehicles.

[TermNachTer]

They do not do it - there are no buyers. There is a technical possibility - if there is an order. In the meantime, he is only in the picture in the assembly shop.

[StudentVK]

Power that is, but OUR then Stirlitz do not sleep, I hope.

[new max]

Quote: VSrostagro

There (in Black and Azov) our boys swim (and not talk on the couch).
Even in Palestine, rockets are riveted on their knees ...
The level of technology for PPH is of course different, but Yuzhmash works ...
Let’s hope that the process drags on, and there’s either the paddies ... or the boats and the Su-24 will die out.

What are you talking about? This is a pre-election fake. No one has yet seen real tests of this so-called pcr. Launching a layout with an engine on the public does not count. The target rocket is significantly different from the PCR. If they really did something
, yes there would be PR from morning till night. You Ukrainians do not know? Dumb PR and deception. Remember what they said about their stealth boats? As soon as they were with us, they came to the conclusion that they are made of aluminum. Their military industrial complex wants to desperately be saved and therefore does not compose epics. It's time to get used to it.

[alexmach]

No one has yet seen real trials of this so-called pcr. Launching the layout with the engine to the public does not count

Well, actually, a couple of months ago, Comrade Turchinov announced the successful launch and defeat of the surface target.

[new max]

Turchinov declared? I won’t take a word for this liar clinical in life. Video from tests with a target defeat.

[K-50]

Is it not dumb to them to fly cape and soviet planes?
Wow, nezalezhnomu, sitting on the crows !!!

[Teberii]

We’ll wait and see what happens. But in addition to the missiles, the fleet of carriers will also have to be modernized and replaced with new ones. And where to get them, there are none.

[adma]

Quote: Teberii

And where to get, they are not.

They will buy it. They will cut pensions and salaries to state employees and buy. And (or) upgrade their own. They are slowly putting their aircraft on the wing. And I think that the victories of the DNI and LDNR are largely due to the fact that the Armed Forces did not have, for a number of reasons, air cover. And now the business is taking a serious turn. And if something happened, it’s unlikely that it will be possible to oppose the APU aviation. And this is very bad.

[Nastia makarova]

even if out of 10 aircraft there is a 30 (300%) increase, it’s still not aviation and can cope easily

[adma]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

even if out of 10 aircraft there are 30 (300%)

I would not be so optimistic.

At the end of 2017, the Armed Forces have approximately 45 MiG-29 fighters (including combat training options), 35 Su-27 fighters, up to 25 Su-24 front-line bombers and Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft and about 25 Su-25 / 25UB attack aircraft.

In the absence of aviation in the DNI and LDNR.

[Mountain shooter]

How many carriers? Up to 25 Su-24 bombers and scouts (state unknown). Who will wear-shoot? The entire dill air force is enough for a day - in case of serious outbreaks.
How many "bloomers" were knocked down in 2014? They stopped bombing at once ...

[alexmach]

How many "bloomers" were knocked down in 2014? They stopped bombing at once ... wassat

Well, actually it’s noticeably less than now in service.

[new max]

Quote: adma

Quote: Nastia Makarova

even if out of 10 aircraft there are 30 (300%)

I would not be so optimistic.

At the end of 2017, the Armed Forces have approximately 45 MiG-29 fighters (including combat training options), 35 Su-27 fighters, up to 25 Su-24 front-line bombers and Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft and about 25 Su-25 / 25UB attack aircraft.

In the absence of aviation in the DNI and LDNR.

And how many of these planes are really combat-ready and fly, and not on paper?

[Marconi41]

Quote: adma

And now the business is taking a serious turn.

That's for sure. If Ukrainians bring this project to mind, then this will already be a serious danger. I hope they don’t have enough money, although they have no problems with assistants.

[new max]

Quote: adma

Quote: Teberii

And where to get, they are not.

They will buy it. They will cut pensions and salaries to state employees and buy. And (or) upgrade their own. They are slowly putting their aircraft on the wing. And I think that the victories of the DNI and LDNR are largely due to the fact that the Armed Forces did not have, for a number of reasons, air cover. And now the business is taking a serious turn. And if something happened, it’s unlikely that it will be possible to oppose the APU aviation. And this is very bad.

We don’t forget about air defense for the hundred downed aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2014. Aviation was no longer involved in the fighting so that there was at least something left, their planes even fell with the Americans at the helm during exercises, and you say there’s nothing to oppose. .

[adma]

Quote: new max

We do not forget about air defense under the hundreds of downed aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2014.

Do you think that they did not take their mistakes into account? The same cruise missile will allow launching without entering the medium and short range air defense range.

[new max]

Quote: adma

Quote: new max

We do not forget about air defense under the hundreds of downed aircraft of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2014.

Do you think that they did not take their mistakes into account? The same cruise missile will allow launching without entering the medium and short range air defense range.

What cruise missile? Fake about the so-called. PKR Neptune? And what did it hit during the tests? Not how the rocket took off, but what did it hit? Even the "developers" themselves fantasize about its readiness in 2021-2022. It does not exist in nature.

[new max]

Yes, and how many of these missiles it takes to hit something. The Syrian air defense experience is to help, where tomahawks, scalps, and delia were massively strayed.

[alexmach]

Do not forget about air defense and under the hundred shot down aircraft of the Armed Forces in 2014

Only a hundred? I thought there were several thousand, no less.
Read at least yourself what you write. A hundred shot down planes in 2 months of active hostilities, what’s coming out, a couple of planes a day were shot down?

[new max]

Raise the reports for 2014. Your questions will disappear. And what is so special about shooting down 2 old planes in 1 day? There are essentially flying targets without electronic warfare and other stray ones.

[Siberian 66]

I think it’s very beneficial for someone to have such a missile both on the ground and in the air. so they’ll also be helped. But only in the name of democracy !!!

[businessv]

Quote: Sibiryak 66

I think it’s very beneficial for someone to have such a rocket.

Of course, a colleague, only it seems to me that the development of a rocket, the cutting of allocated funds, the employment of relatives, etc. buns. I no longer believe that in this country at least something can fly up.

[210ox]

Developers with Russian surnames ... For some reason, I don't see a single "half-bot" or "yaresko" .. Oh, right! They are where you can spoil ..

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: 210ox

Developers with Russian surnames ... For some reason, I don't see a single "half-bot" or "yaresko" .. Oh, right! They are where you can spoil ..

The true "Ukrainians" were thrown to the forefront. Suprun Medicine.

[lukewarm]

Let's see what happens. Most of their fakes and failures reach us, such as with a mortar and so on. But there was still some potential. I don’t know if all the designers and scientists they had were pro-Russian and they went to us. I doubt it. Now something that ... We didn't do it in 2014, we look from the outside and with curiosity. A few more years in the Minsk format - and everything will work out with Uncle Sam's help. So I'm "expressing concern"

[210ox]

Certainly there is potential there. Have everyone left? Of course not! Often people just have nowhere to leave and they adapt. They’ve got everything to do with politics, the main thing is that the house and family are in order.

[serezhasoldatow]

What the hell?

[VeteR_2]

And what, is there an Air Force in Ukraine? I thought recently the last crashed ...

[Marconi41]

Quote: VeteR_2

And what, is there an Air Force in Ukraine? I thought recently the last crashed ...

Su-24 for 2017 25 pieces. Even if half of them fly, then still a lot.

[gormih]

Quote: Teberii

Wait and see what happens.

The same as with "Oplot".
Caterpillars fly off tanks after active protection is triggered.
And after the launch, you can immediately eject from the plane.

[businessv]

Quote: gormih

And after the launch, you can immediately eject from the plane.

I think it will be safer to eject before launch!

[Killemall]

It is not clear why there is still Soviet technology flies? But what about routine maintenance and all that ... ???

[alexmach]

It is not clear why there is still Soviet technology flies? But what about routine maintenance and all that ... ???

Do you think, for some reason, that only Soviet equipment is standing alone in the middle of the Ukrainian steppe? In principle, there can’t be any repair bases for this equipment in your opinion?

[new max]

Quote: alexmach

It is not clear why there is still Soviet technology flies? But what about routine maintenance and all that ... ???

Do you think, for some reason, that only Soviet equipment is standing alone in the middle of the Ukrainian steppe? In principle, there can’t be any repair bases for this equipment in your opinion?

Well, as they repaired the 12 MiG-21s to the Croats, the whole world knows that then some of the sides fell, and the rest wrote off and started looking for new fighters.

[kdakda]

Let's like with a hammer, you can start at the factory right away.

[irazum]

Do they still fly? It seems to me that the Ukrainian letaks should immediately be awarded the title of hero, only because he agreed to take a place in the cockpit of the Ukrainian Su-24.

[Black sniper]

or create a new type of troops "ukrokamikaze".

[Alexey-74]

You can declare anything, but create something completely different. If this is a pre-election chatter, then figs with it, but if not .... then you will have to take action.

[bober1982]

The most interesting of this news is those 20 (twenty) million dollars that were allocated for development, which the developer proudly announced (unless of course he writes)
The Ukrainian fleet of Su-24 (bombers) is 1 (one) squadron from the 7th BrTA (Starokonstantinov), this is a dozen aircraft, of which there are even fewer combat-ready. There is no time for fat here, not for such grandiose and stupid plans as equipping such a "suitcase" as the Su-24 with cruise missiles.
The headquarters of the Russian Air Force probably now all laugh at such news.

[kdakda]

Well, there are of course no fools.

[Sergei 777]

In Ukraine, Su 24M has 20 pieces left, of which a maximum of half fly.

[bober1982]

Quote: Sergey 777

In Ukraine, Su 24M left 20 pieces

Of these 20 - half of the Su-24mr (scouts), a dove of peace.

[jetfors_84]

Dreamers . There is no money for what is needed. Beat the whole world

[Ros 56]

In which case, it will be necessary to turn all airfields together with airplanes into a Donetsk airport and all aviation issues will disappear by themselves. It will remain the banderlogs from the slingshot of the rocket to launch. Of course, from the countries of the former socialist camp they will supply the remnants of former luxury, but they will also need to be calibrated.

[Antares]

Quote: Ros 56

In which case, it will be necessary to turn all airfields together with airplanes into a Donetsk airport and all aviation issues will disappear by themselves

they restored much of the Soviet system there. Nobody will give so much iron.
There is still a question - with a small number of aviation bands, much more was restored.

[Black sniper]

Duck the slingshot itself still need to craft.

[akula]

Well, why are we sitting? What are we waiting for? The moment when the missiles will fly at us? With such a political leadership, such a moment will surely come sooner or later. No matter what kind of missile they kill you, Neptune, or the Americans give you some Tomahawk.

[Black sniper]

Something from 2014 until now has not been given a single tomahawk.

[Evgenijus]

They did not blow the plane with the new rocket in the aerodynamic tube, but there is already a resolution on suitability for future battles. I’m not even talking about flight tests with such weapons.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I think even in the event of a negative development of events for Russia, the air defense systems of our ships will be able to repel even a massive attack of the Ukrainian Neptuns.

Let the Kiev junta spend money on missiles, they will not help them in any way, but tanks, artillery and everything else than they fire at Donbass will be repaired and less done.

Resources in Ukraine with gulkin nose. Spending them on something that in reality will not do any good is just stupid.

Why would they put them on the remnants of their fleet and attack the Russian Black Sea Fleet ?! Well, this is absurd, 6 "Varshavyanka" Black Sea Fleet will cool in the waters of the Black Sea all who just rock the boat in Russia.

Air is also not an option for Ukraine, the S-400 and aviation in the Crimea and the air defense systems of our ships at hundreds of kilometers range hit targets at speeds of up to 4800 m / s - missiles flying at a speed of 2000-3000 m / s - this is already 5-10 hypersound swing !!!

The coastal complexes are simply targets for the Calibers and other Russian missiles.

In general, the most correct thing for Ukraine is not to provoke Russia.

[new max]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

I think even in the event of a negative development of events for Russia, the air defense systems of our ships will be able to repel even a massive attack of the Ukrainian Neptuns.

Let the Kiev junta spend money on missiles, they will not help them in any way, but tanks, artillery and everything else than they fire at Donbass will be repaired and less done.

Resources in Ukraine with gulkin nose. Spending them on something that in reality will not do any good is just stupid.

Why would they put them on the remnants of their fleet and attack the Russian Black Sea Fleet ?! Well, this is absurd, 6 "Varshavyanka" Black Sea Fleet will cool in the waters of the Black Sea all who just rock the boat in Russia.

Air is also not an option for Ukraine, the S-400 and aviation in the Crimea and the air defense systems of our ships at hundreds of kilometers range hit targets at speeds of up to 4800 m / s - missiles flying at a speed of 2000-3000 m / s - this is already 5-10 hypersound swing !!!

The coastal complexes are simply targets for the Calibers and other Russian missiles.

In general, the most correct thing for Ukraine is not to provoke Russia.

If a miraculous miracle happens and one day Neptune flies, then there will be enough Pantsyr, Buka maximum for interception. Syrian experience to help. S-400 is like a cannon on sparrows. A standard target.

[Kharkiv]

In the event of hostilities, these Su-24s will either be instantly destroyed at the airport, or, as soon as they take off, the S-400s will be destroyed

[kupitman]

It is important that the two-stage rocket for the C400 was ready. There is a range of 360 km, you can not let rise from airfields. But it’s expensive, I wonder what range will be the hypothetical winged?

[TermNachTer]

And how much longer will be able to extend the life of the Su - 24? There is nothing Ukrainian there, and there are about a dozen and a half of them left, which are conditionally capable of flying.

[kupitman]

If this is taken seriously, in which case these missiles must not be allowed to fly. And their carriers.
If it is so simple to remake a rocket from anti-ship missiles into winged ones, what haven’t been sawed before?

[Evil 55]

Really? All two at once?

[Old26]

Quote: new max

What cruise missile? Fake about the so-called. PKR Neptune? And what did it hit during the tests? Not how the rocket took off, but what did it hit? Even the "developers" themselves fantasize about its readiness in 2021-2022. It does not exist in nature.

You should not consider your opponent as complete suckers. They work and do it. Moreover, they have personnel. And about "who saw" and "what struck" you can ask a counter question. And who saw the flight of the "Vanguard" and what exactly he struck. Just like with the "Neptune" we saw the first 10-15 seconds of the flight of the carrier with the "vanguard" ... So let's leave the grunting. The news is not very good. The only thing that can be hoped for is that the development will be delayed and by that time the SU-24M will have to be scrapped due to the fact that the service life will be prohibitive

Quote: Kharkov

In the event of hostilities, these Su-24s will either be instantly destroyed at the airport, or, as soon as they take off, the S-400s will be destroyed

Yeah, right now. Of course, as soon as they take off, they will immediately destroy the "four hundred" Is it already banned in Google maps? Then it is easier to remove a geographic atlas from the shelf (if such a house is found) and measure the minimum distance from the 7 BrTA location to the Russian border. Specialist ...

Quote: kupitman

It is important that the two-stage rocket for the C400 was ready. There is a range of 360 km, you can not let rise from airfields. But it’s expensive, I wonder what range will be the hypothetical winged?

Yeah. The airfield is located approximately 500-560 km from the border. A 360-km missile will definitely not allow you to rise from the airfield ...

Quote: kupitman

If it is so simple to remake a rocket from anti-ship missiles into winged ones, what haven’t been sawed before?

And the anti-ship missile "Neptune" is not a cruise missile? Is it ballistic? And by chance it might be intercontinental ... Who knows ...