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Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 6. Furious assault of Vladikavkaz

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Simultaneously with the advance of the division of Shatilova on Grozny, the troops of Shkuro and Geiman were moving towards Vladikavkaz. The fierce 10-day battle for Vladikavkaz, and the suppression of Ossetia and Ingushetia led to the decisive victory of the White Army in the North Caucasus.


Vladikavkaz assault

The emergency commissioner of the South of Russia, Ordzhonikidze, suggested that the remnants of the 11 Army (1 and 2 rifle divisions and other units with a total number of 20-25 thousand bayonets and sabers) would depart to Vladikavkaz. In the area of ​​Vladikavkaz - Grozny, relying on the mountaineers supporting the Soviet power, it was possible to organize a strong defense and hold on to the arrival of reinforcements from Astrakhan and the appearance of the Red Army, which was conducting an offensive from under Tsaritsyn. These forces could allow to keep the Vladikavkaz area and divert significant forces of Denikin’s army (Lyakhov’s army corps and part of the Pokrovsky equestrian corps), holding down whites in the North Caucasus. However, the bulk of the remaining forces of the 11 Army fled to Kizlyar and beyond. A group under the command of Ordzhonikidze, Gikalo, Agniyev and Dyakov remained in the area of ​​Vladikavkaz.

The North Caucasus Defense Council appointed Gikalo commander of the armed forces of the Terek region. By his order, three columns of Soviet troops were created from scattered detachments. The Reds tried to stop the enemy’s offensive on the approaches to Vladikavkaz and throw the whites to Cool. However, they were defeated on the Darg-Koch, Arkhonskaya, Khristianovsky line and moved to Vladikavkaz.

Simultaneously with the offensive of the Pokrovsky corps on Kizlyar, and then the movements of the Shatilova division on Grozny, the Lyakhov corps — Shkuro's cavalry and Kuban geyman's plungers moved to Vladikavkaz. The White Command planned to finish off the Reds in Vladikavkaz, and pacify Ossetia and Ingushetia. In Ossetia there was a strong pro-Bolshevik movement, the so-called. the Kerminists (members of the Kermen organization), and the Ingush, because of the enmity with the Terek Cossacks, were almost entirely in favor of Soviet power. Shkuro proposed to agree, after the victory over the Reds, to gather in Vladikavkaz the Ingush delegation. The Kerminists offered to clear the Christian village, their fortified center, to go to the mountains, otherwise threatened with repressions. Those refused. At the end of January 1919, whites in a stubborn battle, after a two-day artillery shelling of the village, took the Christian.



Having overcome the resistance of the enemy on the Darg-Koch, Arkhonskoye line, the White Guards approached Vladikavkaz for February 1. The Shkuro division, coming close to Vladikavkaz, opened heavy artillery fire and rushed along the railroad to Kurskaya Slobodka (city district), trying to rush into the city on the move. At the same time, she attacked the Molokansky suburb from the south, trying to cut off the city’s garrison from the rear. Molokans are adherents of one of the directions of Christianity. At the end of the XIX century the number of Molokans in Russia exceeded 500 thousand people. Most of them lived in the Caucasus. The Molokans conducted a collective economy, that is, the ideas of the Bolsheviks were partially close to them. In addition, earlier Molokans were considered a harmful heresy and subjected to repression by the royal authorities. Therefore, the Molokans took the side of the Bolsheviks.

The city held a garrison as part of the Vladikavkaz Infantry Regiment, the Red Regiment, the 1 and 2 Communist detachments, the Grozny regiment battalion, the self-defense detachments from the workers of the city, and the Ingush, the International Detachment from the Chinese, the Cheka detachment (around 3 KT. ). The red garrison had 12 guns, a squad of armored vehicles (4 vehicles) and a 1 armored train. Commanded the defense of the city Peter Agniev (Agniashvili).

The division of General Geiman attacked Vladikavkaz from the north, and 2 — 3 in February she reached the Dolakovo-Kantyshevo line (in 25 km from the city). Belykh tried to stop the Vladikavkaz school of red cadets in 180 number of people under the command of Kazan. She was supported by the Ingush detachment and the working company. For five days the cadets kept the area assigned to them and most of the fighters died or were injured. Only after this, the remnants of the detachment moved to the city.

1 - February 2 Shkuro troops shelled the Kursk, Molokanskaya and Vladimirskaya settlements. White offered the enemy to capitulate, the ultimatum was rejected. February 3 Shkuro's troops broke into the river part of Vladikavkaz, occupying the cadet corps. Simultaneously with the attacks on Vladikavkaz, parts of the Geiman cut the road from Vladikavkaz to Bazorkino, where Ordzhonikidze and the headquarters of the commander of the armed forces of the Terek region Gikalo were located. The Ingush and Kabardian Red units attacked the whites, squeezed the enemy, but could not restore contact with the city.

Red fought back, went on the counter. So, 5 February attacked the enemy, who intended to go on the offensive, on the Kursk Slobodka - Bazorkinskaya road and threw him to the starting positions. 6 - February 7 Reds held an additional mobilization of the population in the city, collecting weapons and ammunition. February 6 whites, concentrating large forces, broke through the defense of the Reds and captured the northern suburb of Kurskaya Slobodka. With the help of two armored vehicles sent from the general reserve, the garrison counterattacked the enemy, knocked him out of the Kursk Slobodka and threw him over the river. Terek. On the same day there was a fierce battle on the southern sector, the White Guards occupied Lysa Mountain and thus cut off the retreat along the Georgian Military Highway. Then White attacked the Molokan suburb, where he held the defense of the 1 th Vladikavkaz Infantry Regiment. The White Guards were repelled by the Red Regiment's squadron counter with two armored vehicles. In this battle, the death of the brave died the commander of the 1 th Vladikavkaz Infantry Regiment Peter Fomenko. February 7 fierce fighting continued in the area of ​​Kursk Slobodka. On the plot of Vladimir Slobodka, whites broke into the city by night attack. The garrison reserve counterattack stopped the breakthrough. The Reds moved troops from station to area, skillfully used the reserve, this helped them to put up serious resistance to the enemy. White could not immediately take the city.

Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 6. Furious assault of Vladikavkaz


The troops of Heiman were under attack by the Ingush detachments that attacked the flank and rear. Local mountaineers almost all sided with the Bolsheviks. The White Command noted the extremely fierce resistance of the Ingush, who, with the support of the Reds, stubbornly resisted. To secure themselves from the rear, White had to put up resistance to the Ingush villages for several days. So, after a fierce battle, the Shkuro troops took Murtazovo. Then Shkuro was able to convince the Ingush in the senselessness of further resistance. He succeeded in persuading the probolshevist-minded residents defending Nazran to surrender. February 9 Nazran capitulated.

February 8 fierce battles for Vladikavkaz continued. Volunteers continued strong attacks on the Kursk and Molokan suburbs, but they all fought off the Red Army. However, the situation has worsened. Vladikavkaz was continuously bombarded with artillery fire. The defenders of the city ran out of ammunition. White intercepted the Bazorka road, interrupted the movement along the Georgian Military Highway, managed to break into defensive positions and take part of the Molokanskaya Slobodka, the building of the cadet corps. The Reds continued fierce counterattacks, lost their positions for a while, but on the whole the situation was already hopeless. The situation was further complicated by the fact that there were up to 10 in the city thousands of typhus patients in the 11 th army. There was nowhere to take them out and there was nothing.

February 9 fierce fighting continued. It became obvious that the situation was hopeless. There will be no help. From standing out two armored vehicles. Ammunition is running out. The Ingush left the city to protect their villages. Ways of withdrawal intercepted by the enemy. Gikalo and Orzhonikidze retreated to Samashkinskaya, in the direction of Grozny. The enemy strengthened the blockade ring around Vladikavkaz. Some commanders offered to leave the city. 10 February Shkuro's division dealt a strong blow to the Kursk suburb and captured it. The Reds threw in a counterattack reserve, a detachment of armored vehicles. The whole day was a fierce battle. The Red Army again threw the enemy to their original positions.

At night, the red command, having exhausted the possibilities for defense, decided to leave along the Georgian Military Highway. White, bringing up reinforcements, in the morning of February 11 again went on a decisive assault and, after a three-hour battle, captured Kursk suburb. Reds went to the counter, but this time without success. At the same time, Denikinians captured Shaldon and attacked the Vladimir and Upper Ossetian suburbs. The Red Army soldiers in the evening began to retreat to the Molokansky suburb, and then break through the Georgian Military Highway. Thus ended the 10-day battle for Vladikavkaz.

Having broken into the city, the White Guards carried out a brutal massacre of the Red Army soldiers who had been wounded and suffered from typhus. Thousands of people were killed. Part of the Reds retreated to Georgia, the Cossacks Shkuro pursued them and killed many. In passing through the winter passes, many died. Fearing typhus, the Georgian government initially refused to let in refugees. As a result, they allowed, and interned.

The Reds, pressed against the Caucasus Range in the Sunzhenskaya Valley between Vladikavkaz and Grozny, under the command of Ordzhonikidze, Gikalo, Dyakova, tried to break through to the sea by the valley of the Sunzha River. The Reds were going to pass through Grozny to the Caspian Sea. General Shatilau, speaking from Grozny, entered into battle with them. White has overturned the advanced parts of the red near the village of Samashkinskaya. Then a bitter battle broke out at Mikhailovskaya. The Reds had strong artillery and several armored trains, which advanced, caused serious damage to the White Guards. The Bolsheviks themselves went on the offensive several times, but the whites threw them away with cavalry attacks. As a result, the White Guards were able to accomplish a detour and a simultaneous attack from the front and flank defeated the enemy. Several thousand Red Army soldiers were taken prisoner, whites also captured many guns and 7 armored trains. The remains of the red group fled to Chechnya.


The commander of the 1 Caucasian Cossack Division A. G. Shkuro

Results

Thus, the Vladikavkaz red group was destroyed and scattered. In February, 1919, the Denikin Army, completed the campaign in the North Caucasus. The White Army secured a relatively strong rear and strategic base for the campaign in central Russia. After the storming of Vladikavkaz, two Kuban divisions under the general command of Shkuro were immediately transferred to the Don, where the situation for the White Cossacks was critical. Denikin had to urgently send troops to support the Don Army, which in January 1919 suffered another defeat at Tsaritsyn and began to fall apart, and on the Donbass.

The red detachments that had switched to the partisan struggle, kept only in the mountains of Chechnya and Dagestan. Anarchy also continued in the mountainous regions, almost every nation had its own “government”, which Georgia, Azerbaijan or the British tried to influence. Denikin, on the other hand, tried to restore order in the Caucasus, to abolish these “autonomous states”, and to set up governors of white officers and generals (often local) in national areas. In the spring of 1919, the Denikinians established their power over Dagestan. Mountain republic ceased to exist. Imam Gotsinsky refused to fight and led his detachment to the Petrovsk region, hoping for the support of the British. But another imam, Uzun-Haji, declared jihad against Denikin. He led his squad to the mountains, on the border of Chechnya and Dagestan. Uzun-Haji was elected Imam of Dagestan and Chechnya, and Vedeno was elected as the residence of the Imamat. He began the creation of the North Caucasus Emirate and led the war against Denikin. The “government” Uzuna-Haji tried to establish relations with Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey in order to receive armed assistance.

Interestingly, the jihadists entered into a tactical alliance with the remnants of the red led by Gikalo. They formed an international detachment of the Red rebels, which was stationed on the territory of the emirate and subordinated to the headquarters of Uzun-Haji as the 5 regiment of the army of the North Caucasus emirate. In addition, the Imam was subordinate to the Ingush detachment of red partisans led by Ortskhanov, located in the mountains of Ingushetia, he was considered the 7 regiment of the Uzun-Khadzhi army.

As a result, apart from individual centers of resistance, the entire North Caucasus was controlled by whites. The whites in general suppressed the resistance of the mountaineers of Dagestan and Chechnya in the spring of 1919, but the White Guards had neither the strength nor the time to conquer the mountainous regions.

In addition, the whites came into conflict with Georgia. Another small war took place - the White Guard-Georgian. The conflict was originally caused by the anti-Russian position of the new “independent” Georgian government. The Georgian and white governments were enemies of the Bolsheviks, but could not find a common language. Denikin advocated a “united and indivisible Russia,” that is, he was categorically opposed to the independence of the Caucasian republics, which were only formally “independent,” but in reality were guided first by Germany and Turkey, and then by the Entente powers. The leading role here was played by the British, who simultaneously inspired hopes to the white and national governments and conducted their Great Game, solving the strategic task of dismembering and destroying Russian civilization. The White government postponed all questions of independence of the republics, future borders, etc., until the Constituent Assembly was convened, after the victory over the Bolsheviks. The Georgian government, on the other hand, sought to take advantage of the distemper in Russia in order to round off its possessions, in particular, at the expense of the Sochi district. The Georgians also tried to step up insurgent activities in the North Caucasus in order to create various “autonomies” that could become a buffer between Georgia and Russia. Thus, the Georgians actively supported the uprising against Denikin in the area of ​​Chechnya and Dagestan.

The Georgian-Armenian war, which began in December 1918, was the reason for the intensification of military operations. It affected the Armenian community of the Sochi district, occupied by Georgian troops. The Armenian community there was a third of the population, and there were few Georgians. The insurgents, who were brutally suppressed by Georgian troops, asked for help from Denikin. The white government, despite the protests of the British, in February 1919 of the year moved troops from Tuapse to Sochi under the command of Burnevich. The White Guards, with the support of the Armenians, quickly defeated the Georgians and February 6 occupied Sochi. A few days later, White occupied the entire Sochi district. The British tried to put pressure on Denikin, ultimately demanding the cleansing of the Sochi district, otherwise threatening to stop military assistance, but received a decisive refusal.
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 15 February 2019 06: 09
    +5
    I’m surprised (maybe it’s not worth it) how the hero of the Second Patriotic War, the general whom Denikin trusted, ended up being the last scoundrel and traitor of the Motherland. This is about Shkuro. Here are two people, one of the leaders of the white movement, and how they behaved in As a result, one bowed to the Nazis, the second categorically rejected them.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 February 2019 06: 57
      +3
      You know this can only be explained by the fierce, bestial hatred of Shkuro, Krasnov, etc., towards the Bolsheviks.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 15 February 2019 18: 31
        0
        Quote: Phil77
        You know this can only be explained by the fierce, bestial hatred of Shkuro, Krasnov, etc., towards the Bolsheviks.

        "Even with the devil, but against the Bolsheviks!"
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 15 February 2019 19: 22
        +3
        Quote: Phil77
        You know this can only be explained by the fierce, bestial hatred of Shkuro, Krasnov, etc., towards the Bolsheviks.

        For the sake of which it is possible and the population, together with the country, to "shrink"
      3. irazum
        irazum 15 February 2019 20: 33
        0
        Anton Ivanovich Denikin, the Bolsheviks, too, to put it mildly, "did not regale with pies", but just as many others like him. But this "SCUM" became the highest officers of the SS. They should not have been hung, but quartered in public.
    2. Sugar Honeyovich
      Sugar Honeyovich 15 February 2019 15: 51
      +1
      But then this second gave recommendations to the geopolitical enemies of Russia on how it is best for them to fight with Russia. Without repeating Hitler's "mistakes". For one aspen ...
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 15 February 2019 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      I’m surprised (or maybe not worth it) how the hero of the Second World War-General, whom Denikin trusted in the end, turned out to be the last scoundrel and traitor of the Motherland.

      I ask myself the same question, but about another person, about the hero of the Civil, about the "rescuer of Moscow", about Stalin's favorite, about General Vlasov.
  2. Olgovich
    Olgovich 15 February 2019 07: 34
    -2
    Denikin, on the other hand, tried to restore order in the Caucasus, to abolish these "autonomous states," and appointed governors in the national regions from white officers and generals (often from local). In the spring of 1919, Denikinites established their power over Dagestan ..
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    [quote] It is interesting that the jihadists entered into a tactical alliance with the remnants of the Reds led by Gikalo. They formed an international detachment of red rebels, which was located on the territory of the emirate and was subordinate to the headquarters of Uzun-Hadji as the 5th regiment of the army of the North Caucasus Emirate.

    Those. Denikin spoke for “united and indivisible Russia”, the Reds advocated what was happening in the North Caucasus after their victory today: the formation of a bunch of republics and autonomies, the oppression and squeezing of Russians

    History has shown. who is right and WHAT is better for Russia and the Russian people.
    1. apro
      apro 15 February 2019 07: 56
      -1
      Quote: Olgovich
      History has shown. who is right and WHAT is better for Russia and the Russian people.

      By more details please .......
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 15 February 2019 09: 50
        0
        Quote: apro
        Quote: Olgovich
        History has shown. who is right and WHAT is better for Russia and the Russian people.

        By more details please .......

        One and Indivisible is better than what Russia has been cut into for many decadesFrom 1917 to 1954 it decreased by 5 million km2. Including after the formation of the USSR in 1922 4 million km2. and even a bunch of nat-state autonomies on the body of the Russian Federation.
        you like? Not for me.
        1. apro
          apro 15 February 2019 11: 42
          0
          Quote: Olgovich
          you like? Not for me.

          Yes, I like the USSR ... but I don’t like the one and indivisible. Did you mention the Russian people above so it became better after the bourgeois coup? Did history correctly judge?
          Administrative territories .... and they became state borders after the bourgeois coup ..
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 15 February 2019 12: 45
            0
            Quote: apro
            Yes, I like the USSR ... but I do not like the one and indivisible.

            So you really like what it is today: it was created from 1917 to 1954.
            Quote: apro
            Administrative territories .... and they became state borders after the bourgeois coup ..

            what are "administrative"? STATE-:

            Chapter II On the sovereign rights of union republics and union citizenship
            3. Sovereignty Union republics is limited only to the extent specified in this Constitution, and only on subjects referred to the competence of the Union. Outside of these limits, each Union Republic exercises its state power independently; The Union of SSR protects the sovereign rights of the Union republics.

            4. For each of the Union republics, the right to freely withdraw from the Union is retained..
            1. apro
              apro 15 February 2019 14: 00
              +1
              Quote: Olgovich
              what today is: it was created from 1917 to 1954.

              It is the result of the bourgeois coup of 1991. About the people as it was silent.
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 15 February 2019 18: 33
                0
                Quote: apro
                Quote: Olgovich
                what today is: it was created from 1917 to 1954.

                It is the result of the bourgeois coup of 1991. About the people as it was silent.

                who are these bourgeois in the 91st?
                1. apro
                  apro 16 February 2019 01: 57
                  0
                  Reincarnated control layer. Those who decided to monetize their control capabilities ... former pseudo-Komsomol members and pseudo-communists ...
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 16 February 2019 06: 54
                    +1
                    Quote: apro
                    A reborn control layer. Those who decided to monetize their control capabilities ... former pseudo-Komsomol members and pseudo-communists.

                    What do you have normal no people were found, but one hatched
                    Quote: apro
                    Reincarnated control layer.
                    , but?
                    What kind of system was there? belay
                    1. apro
                      apro 16 February 2019 11: 15
                      0
                      Like you, foreign tourists.
                      1. Olgovich
                        Olgovich 16 February 2019 13: 19
                        +1
                        Quote: apro
                        Like you, foreign tourists.

                        And in Russian?
                        WHAT are foreign tourists?

                        WHERE are your vaunted hardened smart leaders, where did it go that they were beaten by despicable reborn?

                        By the way, Novorossia is Ukraine, as you cut or Russia. how has it been from time immemorial (yes / no)?
              2. Olgovich
                Olgovich 16 February 2019 06: 51
                +1
                Quote: apro
                It result bourgeois coup 1991

                WHAT was established from 1917 to 1954, huh? No borders, no?
                What is established then, along those borders and live.
                Quote: apro
                about the people as it was silent. why would it ....

                The people remained cut into pieces, as it was cut in the years mentioned.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 15 February 2019 08: 09
      +6
      Andrei, I welcome you! There are no questions about Denikin, but what kind of Russia did Shkuro, Krasnov and others fight for during the Great Patriotic War? I think you can’t even dream of a single and indivisible!
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 15 February 2019 09: 03
        -2
        Quote: Phil77
        Andrei, I welcome you! There are no questions about Denikin, but what kind of Russia did Shkuro, Krasnov and others fight for during the Great Patriotic War? I think you can’t even dream of a single and indivisible!

        I welcome you, Sergey! hi
        If White won, WWII simply would not have taken place.:
        1.Russia with France would not allow Germany to arm itself (France itself was unable)
        2. The Entente 2 would repel even the thought of WWII from Germany.
        1. Brutan
          Brutan 15 February 2019 09: 53
          0
          You are right olgovich
          The alignment would be completely different.
          Without the freedom of German diplomatic maneuver, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pacts and German schools in Kazan and Lipetsk
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 15 February 2019 10: 47
            +4
            Quote: Brutan
            Without the freedom of German diplomatic maneuver, the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pacts and German schools in Kazan and Lipetsk

            Come on. Czechoslovakia with its military industry did not feed the Reich at all, but the very guarantors of the implementation of the Versailles Accords.
            The Germans conducted training for officers of the future Panzerwaffe and Luftwaffe both at home and in other countries. Future kampfgroups run in during the Reichswehr exercises in the late 20s.
            But the Reich’s freedom of diplomatic maneuver remains, because even if Russia is among the winners, the European contradictions will not go anywhere. France - yes, she is afraid of German revenge. But the same Britain was left without a system of checks and balances in Europe - the counterweight of France (and Russia) was destroyed. With Russia, too, things are not so simple: on the one hand, debts, on the other, it is clear that all Wishlist Russia will not be satisfied following the war. But there are still overseas friends licking their lips on the colonies of European powers and the market of Europe itself.
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 15 February 2019 10: 32
          +5
          Quote: Olgovich
          1.Russia with France would not allow Germany to arm itself (France itself was unable)
          2. The Entente 2 would repel even the thought of WWII from Germany.

          This is if Russia would be on the side of France. That is, if, following the results of the war, the Empire would receive the Straits. And also if Russia would not have decided that the easiest way to get rid of paying old debts is to beat the creditor. smile
          In addition, a big war in Europe was needed not only by the Reich revenge-seekers, but also by their sponsors from across the ocean. The colonial empires should not just quietly self-destruct, but fall and free up markets for the new master.
          And the revival of Germany was needed by the Island Empire, which suddenly found itself in a situation where there was no counterweight to France on the continent.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 15 February 2019 10: 45
            -1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            This is if Russia would be on the side of France. That is, if, following the results of the war, the Empire would receive the Straits.

            What does the straits have to do with it? Enough and the general problem-Germany
            Quote: Alexey RA
            And also if Russia would not decide that the easiest way to get rid of paying old debts is beat the creditor.

            belay request weird way!

            would be, by the way. reparations from Germany to Russia, according to Versailles.
            Quote: Alexey RA
            In addition, a major war in Europe was needed not only by revenge-seekers from the Reich, but also their sponsors from across the ocean. The colonial empires had to not only quietly self-destruct, but to fall and free up markets for the new owner.

            They are after the PMV. practically. Pali. and their final disappearance was a matter of time.
            Quote: Alexey RA
            And the revival of Germany was needed by the Island Empire, which suddenly found itself in a situation where there was no counterweight to France on the continent.

            such a revival, they did not want.
            and to calm the situation and balance of power, the presence of Russia was not enough: but without Russia there can be no peace in Europe.
        3. Phil77
          Phil77 15 February 2019 11: 05
          +2
          Andrei, this is pure alternative! In fact, in Germany, Hitler, war, on the side of the enemy, skin and red. And you can not argue with that, they are on the side of the enemy!
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 15 February 2019 11: 44
            0
            Quote: Phil77
            Andrew, this is pure alternative!

            No: USSR (Russia, as the winner of WWII, has been participating in the organization and maintenance of the world order and TMV-NO for more than 70 years.

            The same would be after the PMV — what's the difference? Only the new rulers turned Russia into the losing side, which did not solve anything.
            Quote: Phil77
            on the side of the enemy, in skin and red. And you can’t argue with that, they are on the side of the enemy!

            And Soviet Vlasov and others like him were there too.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 15 February 2019 12: 40
              +3
              Excuse me, where were these victorious countries when Hitler came to power? Perhaps you yourself participated in his coming, and would you like Russia to take part in this? In any case, the Second World War would have taken Germany along with any power in Russia one-drang nah osten! It was in the 45th that our grandfathers reassured them! For which they honor and glory Eternal!
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 16 February 2019 06: 57
                +1
                Quote: Phil77
                Excuse me, where were these victorious countries when Hitler came to power?

                Once again: RUSSIA was not there, and without it there can be no peace!
        4. Sugar Honeyovich
          Sugar Honeyovich 15 February 2019 15: 56
          0
          Quote: Olgovich
          France itself was unable

          Rather unwanted.
          Quote: Olgovich
          The Entente 2 would repel even the thought of WWII from Germany.

          Provided that she was with Russia against Germany, and not with Germany - against Russia ... And this is a very possible option!
        5. cradle
          cradle 16 February 2019 11: 42
          0
          Well, yes, kaneshna, not for that "porridge was brewed." There would not be any Entente 2. Initially, it was conceived- Russia is like cannon fodder, and the cream is skimmed-naglo-Saxons. And there would be WWII and we would not be among the winners for sure.
    3. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 15 February 2019 19: 25
      -1
      Quote: Olgovich
      Those. Denikin advocated a “united and indivisible Russia”,

      But did the invaders, who supported the "supporters of unity", needed a single and indivisible one? Was she needed by other gentlemen from the so-called. resistance? And most importantly - for what? To sit down on the neck of the working people again, it is Orthodox.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 16 February 2019 07: 01
        +2
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        And most importantly - for what?

        For the sake of today there would be no Russian people cut into pieces (as it happened). and the Russian cities of Odessa and Nikolaev, etc. did not turn into Russophobian nests.
  3. Brutan
    Brutan 15 February 2019 09: 52
    +3
    A successful series of operations of young VSYUR
    Combat experience and organizational skills have done their job, even in such a complex region as the North Caucasus. THX
  4. Moskovit
    Moskovit 15 February 2019 14: 24
    +1
    Another white mriy. As if the revolution arose from scratch. The stupid national policy of the tsarist regime led to the fact that all national suburbs and Jews became either the most faithful allies of the Bolsheviks or the worst enemies of the white movement.
    1. Karenas
      Karenas 15 February 2019 18: 21
      +1
      Quote: Moskovit
      Another white mriy. As if the revolution arose from scratch. The stupid national policy of the tsarist regime led to the fact that all national suburbs and Jews became either the most faithful allies of the Bolsheviks or the worst enemies of the white movement.

      Dear, my opinion is somewhat different ... I always said that in Armenia, for example, the Dashnaks and the Bolsheviks - two steam boots ... were created by the Zionists to control our national movement ... As you can see from the article , the same thing was with the Georgians ...
      These parties, taking advantage of their organization, came to power after the Thief with its collapse of the Empire, for which they were created in advance by the Zionists
      1. Moskovit
        Moskovit 15 February 2019 19: 11
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        So why then did the Dashnaks come into conflict with the Bolsheviks?
        1. Karenas
          Karenas 15 February 2019 19: 20
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          There was no conflict between the Dashnaks and the Bolsheviks ...
          Only the non-partisan Nzhdeh fought against Bolshevik evil, on patriotism - so that Zangezur would remain Armenian ... And 120+ Russian personnel officers who remained here after the BOP fought alongside him ... Altogether 300 patriots remained here Russian officers ... Those 120+ Dashnaks were fired from the Armenian army in the spring of 1920 ... precisely to weaken our army ... Thanks to these officers for staying here after that and moving to Nzhde !!!
      2. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 15 February 2019 19: 27
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        Quote: Karenas
        I always said that in Armenia, for example, the Dashnaks and the Bolsheviks have two boots of steam ...


        What is a "national movement", what is its goal? What has the national movement led to in Armenia and other republics? The restoration of the bourgeoisie is obvious, i.e. it's just a screen for the solidarity state.
        1. Karenas
          Karenas 15 February 2019 19: 34
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          With a capital letter you need to write about countries ...
          As for the answer to the question, the topic is extensive, a lot will have to be explained ...
  5. Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 15 February 2019 20: 54
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    Quote: Brutan
    A successful series of operations of young VSYUR
    Combat experience and organizational skills have done their job, even in such a complex region as the North Caucasus. THX

    Yes, they carried out the operation beautifully and competently, but their enemy was very weak: in fact, semi-militia formations of the Terek Soviet Republic with a strong raid of "partisanship", poorly trained, without intelligent command. + a terrible typhus epidemic, which severely crippled the 11th Army.
  6. Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 15 February 2019 21: 02
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    Quote: IvanIvanov
    Quote: Olgovich
    Those. Denikin advocated a “united and indivisible Russia”,

    But did the invaders, who supported the "supporters of unity", needed a single and indivisible one?

    Naturally not. As a matter of fact, the events of the "Sochi incident" (the White Guard-Georgian war) clearly showed everything. As soon as Denikin, having recaptured Sochi, decided to go to Abkhazia, the Entente immediately gave him a hand and he immediately gave his troops a "stop order", to the great joy of the Georgians.
    1. Karenas
      Karenas 16 February 2019 21: 00
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      It goes without saying that the puppeteers of the VOR did not let Denikin go to Abkhazia - after all, there was a shock fist of the Bolsheviks - former soldiers of the Abkhazian wild division ...
  7. Sergey Oreshin
    Sergey Oreshin 16 February 2019 23: 02
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    Quote: Karenas
    It goes without saying that the puppeteers of the VOR did not let Denikin go to Abkhazia - after all, there was a shock fist of the Bolsheviks - former soldiers of the Abkhazian wild division ...

    Since the summer of 1918, Abkhazia was controlled by Georgia, Georgian troops stood there, and part of the Abkhaz leaders turned to Denikin with a request for help, to drive the Georgians away. Denikin, knocking the Georgians out of the Sochi district, decided to advance further in Abkhazia, but the Entente ordered him to stop - and Abkhazia remained under Georgian rule
  8. Homegoblin
    Homegoblin 22 March 2019 03: 40
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    Of course, the author is a big plus for his diligence, there are not enough docks or links to the docks, where there were reports of the mentioned participants, and yes, Malokanka, Kurskaya, Shaldon, indeed these unspoken areas exist and live winked I would like to ask the author "the second world war and the area" BAM "" feel