Shoigu spoke about the primary measures in response to the US withdrawal from the INF.

The head of the Russian military department, Sergei Shoigu, at the selector meeting at the Defense Ministry held today, called on Russia's actions to be carried out at the initial stage in response to the withdrawal of the United States from the INF Treaty, the press service of the military department reports.

According to Shoigu, at the initial stage it is necessary to develop a ground version of the Caliber marine complex with a long-range missile. Development must be done in 2019-2020. At the same time, a ground-based complex with a long-range hypersonic rocket should be created. The Minister stressed that the use of already existing sea-based and air-launched missiles in the development of ground-based complexes will significantly reduce the production time of the new weapons while maintaining the same amount of funding. The second task voiced by Shoigu is to increase the firing range of the developed ground-based missile systems.

The Minister of Defense instructed his deputy, Alexei Krivoruchko, "to open appropriate R & D within a short time frame within the framework of the funds already allocated for 2019 and 2020-2021, according to the state defense order by redistributing revenues for the above-mentioned works."

Earlier, the head of the military department said that the United States is actively working to create land-based missiles with a range of more than 500 kilometers.

The President of Russia has set the task of the Ministry of Defense to take retaliatory mirror measures

- said Shoigu.

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[opuonmed]

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: opuonmed

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

Maybe a diplomatic backstage bargaining?

[Tank jacket]

Bargaining banned GDP ...

[Qwertyarion]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Maybe a diplomatic backstage bargaining?

Quote: Tank jacket

Bargaining banned GDP ...

And they now so communicate with each other of the Russian Federation and the USA, through advertisements in newspapers.
It’s somehow childish, of course, but the situation has escalated to the point that officially the dialogue does not work.

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

Bargaining banned GDP ...

So it is forbidden with the Americans and then not yet ripe. And with Europe you can even bargain for the European army on the basis of the Norman troika

[Tank jacket]

There, under occupation, Germany, France also does not have sovereignty. The Italians are more independent; in Venezuela they vetoed. In general, it is useless to throw beads in front of pigs.

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

There under occupation Germany, France also does not have sovereignty

Trump is clearly shouting something about the Napoleonic plans, and Berlin in 1813 was already freed from Bonaparte. The main thing for us is that the INF Treaty should not be in Europe, Japan, South Korea.

[Tank jacket]

I’ll tell you a secret, it’s already violet to us;

[Tusv]

Quote: Tank jacket

I’ll tell you a secret, it’s already violet to us;

Well, if it was violet, then Kuzhegetovich talked about deploying the RS-26. And the Yankees' sun is not too late to drive a filthy broom from Eurasia

[Yves762]

Quote: Tank jacket

Bargaining banned GDP ...

No (!):

"I ask both departments (the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, -" DS ") not to initiate any negotiations on this issue in the future.

Putin did not ban bargaining. Putin only charged the "starting price" for the bidding.
So options like "still sell (b!), but (!) more expensive ..." still not excluded.

[Tank jacket]

And at the same time he gave the order ... Make rockets ... Here in the article the minister reported when we received the rockets. All.

[Yves762]

The Missile Union had ... (in the balance sheets of that time)

[dorz]

it is necessary to develop a land-based version of the Kalibr naval complex with a long-range missile.

The most promising will be ground-based Zircon.

[lwxx]

There is more a problem with the carrier. It is necessary to optimize the transportation systems to the requests for this unit.

[Troll]

And do not you need to develop ground installations, chassis and interfaces with sighting systems?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Troll

And do not you need to develop ground installations, chassis and interfaces with sighting systems?

What for ! A ship with calibers was put on wheels and push! Hooray ! Oh, let’s get out! Joke !! for those who do not understand .....

[Russia]

Quote: opuonmed

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

It’s simply not possible to place it in the field, which means stationary or mobile based, with the resulting engineering, technical and logistic solutions. Simplified.

[210ox]

There are "moments". The guidance system is different, the launcher is different ... etc ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: opuonmed

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

Better yet, rivet the wheels to the "Karakurt" and let them drive them along the roads.

[Wedmak]

Yes, and there’s a moment - they won’t pass under the bridges. )))

[new max]

Quote: opuonmed

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

While they will carry out these R&D and go to a series of Trump products trampled from the White House, the new US president will come and say that all this is not necessary. Or the global economic crisis will amend this matter. In short, don’t don’t survive or subscribe. I hope that at least they have time to create something. For the safety of future generations. The race is almost not started, it will end there. The RS-26 seems to be ready. Or someone wants to confuse someone. Do you want to land the Dagger for 2 years? True in this thread You must have your own MZKT. Suddenly, the Ukrainian script in Belarus. Until a thunder strikes, a man crosses himself and so on. As a sharashka, things are going on, after the sleeves. We don’t look at first. Although it is unclear how it really is. Who is thinking? Everything is ready and does it take time to legalize or really R&D? Would Zircon quickly get to ground installations?

[alexmach]

I can not understand the ground is simple, put an ustarnovku on the ground and all what you do)))) or are there moments?

Well, in the sense of put it on the ground. Is it right on the ground, or is it some kind of chassis?
Is it just necessary to deliver or, nevertheless, also target designation to them from some systems there?
And how is it necessary to integrate with the existing complexes, the same Iskander? that one complex could use old "conventional" missiles and calibers, or create a new complex from scratch?
A separate question, but where to deploy them then? With increased range, it seems like Kaliningrad is already pointless.

[g1v2]

Well, in general, it is. There are PU Bastion and Iskander, there are USC with calibers on ships. They simply put the UCS on the chassis of the Bastions and the system is ready. Moreover, such PU we can rivet much more than ships with calibers. The caliber range is 2500. From Kaliningrad he will reach Madrid. From Crimea - to the south of Egypt. From Primorye - shoots all over Japan. In general, he does everything that Iskander could not. Whole overall gap is beneficial to both us and the states. The losers are Europe, China and Japan.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Will we meet the deadlines? Of course, these are not throw tests "Sarmat", another class, but still ..

According to Shoigu, at the initial stage, it is necessary to develop a land-based version of the Kalibr sea complex with a long-range missile. Development should be carried out in 2019-2020 years. At the same time, a ground-based complex with a long-range hypersonic rocket should be created.

And here already appears the year 2021:

The Minister of Defense instructed his deputy, Alexei Krivoruchko, "to open the appropriate ROC in a short time within the framework already allocated for 2019 and 2020-2021 year of funds for the state defense order through the redistribution of proceeds for the execution of the above works. "

Total in 2022 year, the missiles will be deployed at best.

[Bacha]

There are suspicions that have already met. Just not voiced.

[bessmertniy]

Time is such an interesting material that when necessary, it stretches, and when necessary, it contracts strongly.

[Kawado]

Total in 2022 year, the missiles will be deployed at best.

Most likely, we are talking about the fact that money has already been allocated and distributed and that it will take time to analyze the necessary costs and determine where to redistribute funds from which projects. And the OCD itself has already been carried out and, as a whole, everything is ready.
And OCD was mentioned, so as not to paint for the consumer all the details of financial red tape and production preparation, and it sounds cool - OCD))
So, on the whole, the missiles are ready, the question is to stick the mine onto the tractor, here the OCD is maximum for a couple of months, if they are of course needed, especially considering that in our military-industrial complex everyone likes to make it universal or as universal as possible.

[g1v2]

Bastion fires Onyx. Onyx can be launched from uksk, as well as calibers. What is the likelihood that the Bastion can shoot with Calibers immediately or after a small alteration? I think it's big. The only question is the speed of deployment of the pr-va, and special R&D will probably not be needed there. In fact, both we and the states have been preparing to break the contract for a long time. The only question was who would become the initiator and the main "bad guy".

[Kharkiv]

I have to bang. Be sure to bang. The whole world is in ruin! But then...

[Troll]

There is no place for Judas.

[Russia]

Let this misunderstanding from the true Russian city frolic.

[niki233]

you in hohland already banged

[Tank jacket]

Pro-American elites in Russia began to panic. Their Master is offended, not respected, poked in the waste. Yesterday, Israel harnessed, it didn’t help, they will still look for options, Lukashenko will also be connected by, and there simply aren’t any (options). Any contact and initiation is prohibited! There is no hope, we warned you. To initiate negotiations, obtaining a real term for treason.

[prior]

Russia has no reason to worry about the security of European countries, Japan and Israel. Absolutely not. And that is to say the least.

[Russia]

The main thing is not to make sudden movements.

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

Good day! In my subjective opinion, great difficulties with landing the Caliber should not arise. And after placing them in addition to the western direction, it is necessary somewhere in the area of ​​St. Lawrence Island. With love from Russia!

[dgonni]

Soul rushed to paradise. A new arms race drew. Surprise?

[Tank jacket]

Are you talking about Israel? Ask yourself ... Sudyuzha?

[Qwertyarion]

And what other options are there?

[Russia]

Sudyuda, underwear for free sale.

[new max]

Quote: dgonni

Soul rushed to paradise. A new arms race drew. Surprise?

Nobody has time. Neither we nor they. The global economic crisis will make adjustments. All these neo-SOIs will go under the knife. Everything is designed for many years. Until life enters into effect, it will make its own corrections. Neo-SOIs for the 30s are calculated. It will not work races. Time is very short before the global economic collapse. Less than a year. The United States and the Soviet Union for about 8-9 years riveted their BRDS before they approached the crisis. Now there is simply no time.

[Keyser soze]

Time is very short before the global economic collapse. Less than a year.

Before or after the summer? I ask that the vacation is not zafigachit for nothing ....

[new max]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Time is very short before the global economic collapse. Less than a year.

Before or after the summer? I ask that the vacation is not zafigachit for nothing ....

The end of 2019 and the beginning of 2020.

[apro]

And on kama is this kozhugetovich going to shoot ????

[loginovich]

The led army of the Russian Federation is not victorious by such generals.

[nPuBaTuP]

It’s better to let yourself be surrounded by beautiful Russian women than by creatures with unknown sexual characteristics ....

[Voltsky]

oh love your girls' ministers of defense to bring them closer ...
Of course, I can be mistaken, but somehow I have little faith in their exceptional usefulness as a state adviser, but in other matters, especially the second one is very Copenhagen :)

[dgonni]

Og, then the sanctions that now seem like baby talk! Do you want both Iran or Iraq? Well, in the sense of oil and gas in exchange for food! This is the moment the states are realizing, and the Saudis with the Shtatovtsy and the Qatari will cheerfully redistribute our entire market in Europe. In laughter it will be in laughter!

[dgonni]

Look at the budget of Russia, then remove from there 90% of oil and gas revenues. Do an analysis and imagine how it will end and when.

[new max]

Quote: Stalin is alive

It is necessary to withdraw from the non-proliferation treaty. In the event of aggression from outside, the people's governments of Iran and the DPRK have the right to burn down the enemy’s infrastructure, mutilate and abuse his cities and herd of consumers. Partners will carry liquid!

Do they not have such opportunities now?

[Russia]

Quote: apro

And on kama is this kozhugetovich going to shoot ????

According to the Kama Sutra.

[Mihail yanov]

I doubt very much that it is only through the redistribution of funds that it is possible to carry out a radical rearmament and conduct R&D in rocket science.
Bringing the self-employed to the general order, of which more than 20% and a progressive scale for the super rich, will make it possible to patch up the resulting financial gap.
You can call upon the members of the Federation Council and the State Duma, where they are all millionaires, and build a division of "Sarmatians" named after them.

[axiles100682]

All these statements are for our Western "partners" and the domestic Russian user. In fact, all of this is already available. The USA has been withdrawing from the INF Treaty for several years now, and ours were quite expecting this scenario. Therefore, in all developed ground complexes the possibilities of increasing the missile flight range were laid, and all sea and air-based missiles were developed taking into account the possibility of their installation on ground carriers.

[NEXUS]

At the same time, a ground-based complex with a long-range hypersonic rocket should be created.

And this is interesting ... will it be a complex based on the new Iskander, or a completely new complex?

[new max]

Quote: NEXUS

At the same time, a ground-based complex with a long-range hypersonic rocket should be created.

And this is interesting ... will it be a complex based on the new Iskander, or a completely new complex?

Which option is an enlarged Zircon or Rubezh. Perhaps a ground dagger, but it's a BRMD.

[mmk]

Russia and the United States are trolling China.

[HMR333]

all that I wrote yesterday in my article but it was rejected for grammar alas!

[Tank jacket]

“John Bolton is the serial killer of arms control treaties,” the headline featured in an article in The Washington Post by guest author Joseph Tsirintsion.

“But Bolton does not want to treat the contract, he wants to kill him,” the author of the article writes. According to him, America will have to pay a high price for this in the future. He calls such a Trump decision “a gift to Putin”, because the problem is not solved, but it gets worse. Now nothing will interfere with Putin if he wants to deploy hundreds of missiles. And the blame for the termination of the contract will fall on the United States, which will exacerbate the discord within NATO. “Whatever the ideological strategy of Bolton, this clearly helps Putin and Russia, and does not harm,” the author of the article notes.

[Tank jacket]

We must perceive this as creating jobs, which will have a beneficial effect on our interests.

[Adimius38]

there are excellent Soviet medium-range missiles to establish production and nothing more.

[Zomanus]

So the arms race began. And now it’s clear what are the reasons here and it’s clear why the race began in the Union.
There will be no race and they will crush us as soon as they see that there is a chance to defeat us.