Evgeny Fedorov: "Russian business on the hook of the USA"
- Yevgeny Alekseevich, you were removed from the post of chairman of the Committee on Economic Policy and Entrepreneurship, deprived of the right to speak in the media because of your position on Russia's political and economic sovereignty. Why is your point of view so unpopular?
- I am generally forbidden to discuss issues of sovereignty. Real problems are little discussed here, because it is not customary to discuss the laws of politics, to talk seriously about life. A serious analysis is not allowed into the information space.
In 1991, one side was defeated against the other. The Soviet Union lost the war, because the enemy studied us well and applied the operation to promote his agent Gorbachev, who in six years managed to create a mechanism to eliminate the country.
We lost in the 40-year war, which for some reason is called "cold." And today, our state apparatus is partially subject to the winner, that is, America. We pay tribute to them, and they control us completely.
- What tribute are you talking about? Give an example, please.
- Look at any Russian banknote, it says: “Ticket of the Bank of Russia”. If you recall the old Soviet banknote, it was written on it: "State Treasury Ticket". That is, these papers are now issued not by the state of the Russian Federation, but by one particular bank. This is a consequence of the 1991 of the year to make it clear.
This piece of paper is issued on the basis of the Constitution and on the basis of laws on the Central Bank, and the volume of output is proportional, according to the Law on the Central Bank and the Constitution of the Russian Federation, to the amount of virtual foreign currency purchased through the mechanism of so-called gold reserves. That is, in order for me to pay in the 100 store in rubles, the Russian economy paid face value to the United States of America.
This money goes to the inflation mechanism, because it is withdrawn from the economy. And we will never solve the problem of inflation without solving the problem of the Central Bank. Do not think that this is our specific problem. America has won the majority of countries, and today they consume half of the world's GDP. And the Americans are well aware that this problem will destroy them. Therefore, the main question for Obama to Congress is to reduce America’s domestic consumption. This is a paradox, but they cannot do it, because you cannot get a piece that is already there out of the American mouth.
Thus, every year we pay tribute to the treasury of the United States - about 200-300 billions of dollars. It corresponds to the full taxation in Russia, without customs payments. Relatively speaking, every Russian pays two taxes: he pays one tax to the Russian budget, and the other - in the same amounts - he pays to the American budget. These rules came up with the Americans. The rules are written by the winners.
- You said that they "control us completely." How?
“Tribute is only one part.” The second is complete control of the business. In Russia, there is no national large and medium business. That is, in Russia in private business it is forbidden to have large objects, this is a ban of the winner. All private business in Russia, except for small and medium, is obliged to register in foreign jurisdiction, to be controlled by the United States. You will not name a single major Russian businessman who would be a Russian de jure businessman. The official status of any of them is "the property manager of a foreign company in the Russian Federation", although he may have a Russian passport.
- Is Norilsk Nickel a foreign company?
- Of course. Didn't you know? Even Gazprom at 40 percent is a foreign company. All companies in Russia, large and medium, do not have the right to exist as foreign property without registration, this rule has been established by Americans since the 1990-s.
- Where is it written? Who is it for execution?
- All it is carried out, you will not find any exception. As a businessman, you must travel to Gibraltar, Cyprus or London and transfer property there. We are forbidden to have national large private property. Did I say something new to you?
- Yes, I am surprised.
- They don’t even argue about it, because it’s obvious. Moreover, if you look from the perspective of 1991 of the year and the defeat of the country, you will see that the privatization mechanism was a form of indemnity: all privatized enterprises automatically transferred to foreign jurisdiction. Americans have entrusted many countries to own ownership mechanisms in the Russian Federation: France, England, Cyprus, Germany, etc.
- That is, enterprises should be registered there and taxes should be paid there?
- No, the enterprise itself may be in Russia, but its owner must be abroad. We have no national business in terms of ownership at all.
The exception is small and medium business. If you are a successful businessman and from stalls go to a more or less large object, your banker will tell you: "In whatever bank you are serviced, go to a foreign jurisdiction." And you, without going to a foreign jurisdiction, will not be able to have those relations with banks that you want.
By the way, the Central Bank of Russia is separated from the state, subject to the New York judicial jurisdiction. That is, he can sue the Russian government in New York. This is recorded in the law of the Central Bank. By the way, all the basic laws in Russia were written by Americans in the 1990s.
- And the State Duma also accepted you, including ...
- The State Duma accepted them. The control system, if you like, yoke or partial occupation is, first of all, a system. And it is controlled by the Americans through the financial mechanism, because Russia lacks national political money. That is, all parties sit differently on grants, or on salary, speaking Russian. If we are talking about opposition parties, they have a mixed system of control by the Americans: partly on a grant and partly manipulation through the mechanism of corruption and through the so-called mechanism of elites. If we are talking about the ruling authorities, then the very rules of their formation came up with the Americans.
- Evgeny Alekseevich, let's return to the question of business.
- Yes, there is a second point of this question. American advisers, who came to the Russian Federation to establish the Russian state apparatus after 1991, selected future oligarchs and distributed Soviet and post-Soviet property to them with a certain condition.
Therefore, if you ask me if today's large Russian businessmen are owners of a business that they do and say they are owners, I’ll say that I don’t know, but I suspect that many don’t . They say: "We are the owners," but in reality they are hooked.
- As, for example, for a long time they tried to find out who owns the Domodedovo airport ...
- This is just a small special case, and the state very quickly ran away from it, because they nabbed on his head and said: "Do not meddle here." Power is controlled through the mechanism of corruption, which is why corruption is an unsolvable problem today. To solve it, we were forbidden by the Americans.
- Tell us more about how the mechanism of corruption in Russia works?
- Imagine a big corruption. Before you take and give half the property of the USSR to someone, you just need to say: "Who are you? Doctor? You will be a billionaire." This is called "privatization." Maybe a big corruption? There are kickbacks, bribes. And when they take and just half of the country's property is distributed on the list, and according to the American ...
“But that was 20 years ago ...”
- Nothing has changed since then. This property as given, it is. This time. The second. An oligarchic management system when an official is appointed by a business and works for a business.
- In all countries, officials are appointed by the business and work for the business.
- They do not report. When the functional duty of an official is to serve his businessman, this is called regular corruption.
The current mechanism of corruption is compared to these two, baby talk, this mechanism goes into the system of government. This is the rule of the functioning of the Russian state, which arose in the 20 system years ago as a result of the 1991 capitulation of the year.
- You want to say that before 1991, we did not have corruption?
- It was, but of a different nature. The current goal of corruption is political, unlike tsarist Russia, where it bore a personal goal — to enrich the boyar, the official. Today, the mechanism of corruption is one of the mechanisms for manipulating the processes in Russia. That is why Americans can close corruption in Russia in two days, equating it to laundering. The system of corruption, all its technology, is tied to foreign jurisdiction, organized there. It is impossible to solve the problem of corruption in Russia without solving the problem of sovereignty.
Our state is half the occupation mechanism created by Americans in 1991. And when the state does something for me, it’s not a fact that it is patriotism. The state works easily for Americans when necessary, and they have their own mechanisms for that.
- And what do you, a politician with great experience, a deputy of four convocations, order you to do to your compatriots for your salvation, so to speak?
- Why do you think our ancestors did not want to lose the war and put their bellies in thousands of battles? Every normal person understands that if you lost the war, you, your children and great-grandchildren will pay for it for a long time. The winner has a mechanism for influencing any processes in a defeated country. The losing state has a lot of time and energy to spend on restoring sovereignty, economy, statehood, culture.
Let's see the logic of events. 1991 year - a loss in the war. The Americans arrived, they created the Russian state, for some time they directly controlled it. Kozyrev, Gaidar were just figures covering the American government, which worked in Moscow through a system of advisers.
They chose the oligarchs, gave them property, transferred the property to their jurisdiction for reliability, and created a seven banker mechanism from 1996. The oligarch directly ruled the officials through the quota mechanism: ministers, department heads, directors of large state-owned companies were subordinate to him. They reported to him weekly, and he could remove them from office at any time. This oligarchic mechanism existed until 1999, before Putin destroyed it.
Putin launched the mechanism of a partial national revival, or, I would say, liberation. But the management system is such that if one link, the president, for example, goes out of American control, it does not change. Even if Putin can go against the Americans, and he talked about this, then he cannot go against the elite of his country. The strength of Americans in Russia is that in 20 years, the Russian elites have become American. In reality, the country is governed by Russian non-national elites.
I will not say that the Americans want to liquidate Russia, but some of their bosses made such a decision, they viewed the world while the Russian Federation was liquidated.
- You do not have paranoia that Americans control everything, all our actions and conversations are controlled? How much information they will have to process.
- I agree with you that they do not process it, but they write, therefore the National Security Agency has a budget twice as much as the CIA.
There are claims to the current government that it pays too much attention to Chechnya: they say that no other region is as funded as the Chechen Republic is funded.
- Do you know which region of Russia receives the most federal funding per resident? Kuril ridge. Under the federal program, they receive thirty times more money than funding per capita in Chechnya, for example. And Chechnya, in terms of calculated indicators, is funded on average, like the rest of the Caucasus. And the Caucasus is not the most funded, if we speak per capita, region of the Russian Federation.
In Chechnya, there is more sovereignty, they steal less, that's all. Efficiency is higher.
- It turns out that in the rest of Russia they steal in such a way that all regions live in poverty. And where does the stolen go? Is everything floating abroad?
“We recently discussed the mechanism of Russian grants that Medvedev introduced. Russian authorities should also allocate grants. And we asked the ministry how these grants are spent. Very interesting. Seventy percent of our national grants go to grantees from the United States of America ... We asked: "Why seventy?" We were told at the ministry: "And in order to show the whole world that we, too, can finance American grantees." That is, for the government system, this goal is important. The Russian state apparatus was created as an external administration architecture, and the fact that our president takes a different position, that there are a bunch of decent officials, does not change the system.
- And the State Duma is also one of the elements?
- The State Duma is a party system. The party system is part through the grantees, with respect to part of the opposition, part through the corruption mechanisms of manipulation and part through the elite manipulation. And besides, you do not forget, there is a mechanism of common pressure, when people understand that it is pointless to argue with the system: you go against the rules, they crush you, they throw it away.
We need to win over the Russian information space, that is, to enact laws on the national rating system, on the media self-regulation system, that is, to solve the problem of the well-being of the Russian person. In this information space, we will not solve the problem, it destroys us.
- Not so long ago there was a discussion on Facebook that it was necessary to ban foreign citizens from being leaders of the Russian media. There was such indignation: "How will foreigners not enter the leadership of the media? This is impossible, this is a restriction of freedom!"
- We must clearly understand: the sphere of ideologies and the sphere of rules is not the sphere of Russian sovereignty in the understanding of Americans. For violations in these matters will be the bombing, the Hague Tribunal, up to the special squad of murderers. The struggle in this area will be to the death of America.
Central channels directly obey Washington. The budget of America pledged money to manage the Russian media.
In my opinion, we have a lot of strength despite this powerful system. But this process is not fast. We must clearly understand: first, the resources of vassal-colonial growth have been exhausted, that is, we will not be given a higher standard of living. Secondly, in the last three or four years we have a total retreat of national forces on all fronts. This is due to the fact that the Americans forbade Putin to go for a third term at one time, and the events that followed. In fact, they seized the initiative of ruling Russia. There was a rise, by the way, thanks to this there was a tenfold increase in salaries, when he partially took over the management of national processes. Then the reaction started, and for four years we have been in a state of retreat.
For the past six months, we have been running from all national fronts under pressure from the Americans. For example, the Swamp area. Who are the organizers? More than half are official US grantees.
When I spoke with Obama, his team, they said bluntly: "We underestimated Russia, we will now take it seriously." Seriously, it means that more money will be allocated for oppositional work in Russia. We are seeing it now. The United States budget is being made up for propaganda spending in Russia, and Hillary Clinton calls this money publicly in Congress "money for a war with Russia." This war, as she says, there are no victories in it, there is a struggle in it.
Today, Putin’s main task is, of course, on the basis of popular support, to come to an agreement with the elites, and by and large, replace them. When he talks about modernization and changing the type of economy, he actually talks about the mechanism of transformation of elites into a national type.
- But you said that we have all enterprises registered in the West. How can he change that?
- Changing the type of economy means changing the legislation of Russia in such a way so that we can get national mechanisms for influencing the situation, integration into Russian society. That there were not foreign businessmen, but Russian ones, so that the ruble was not foreign currency (the same branch of the dollar, to be honest), and the Russian one, so that television was not foreign, but Russian.
Imagine that tomorrow the material well-being of Russian citizens miraculously doubled. Do you think something will change in relations with the authorities? Not. The problem is not money. The problem is that in Russia there is no sovereignty and people feel this with the spinal cord. Our state system works for a state called the USA. He created and works for him.
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