The case of the Council of the Federation, the case of Gazprom or the cause of all of us?

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Very often, working with any material, you come across schemes that are difficult to understand without consulting with specialists. There is an understanding that something is happening, but that this is not clear. There is no clear picture of the actions of defendants.





This happened with the article about the detention of Senator Rauf Arashukov. A simple explanation of the TFR was not associated with those detentions that occurred literally at the same time as described. The murderer and several senior leaders of the regional divisions of Gazprom.

And where to look for specialists, if not in Gazprom? The blessing there is someone to ask, after all, in Siberia, people associated with gas and oil are somewhat more than in any part of the country.

Thanks to the advice of a specialist from the neighboring Tyumen region, much has become clearer, and many eyes have opened. My interlocutor (yes, lucky) was with inspection checks in that area. True, not where arrests go today in bundles, but in Kabardino-Balkaria.

But hell, to be honest, radish is not sweeter, judging by his words.

The fact is that the well-known name Gazprom includes several organizations with completely different tasks. I think the readers who viewed the list of detained managers of this company paid attention to this.

So, in the structure of Gazprom, there are structural divisions of Gazprom Gas Distribution and Gazprom Mezhregiongaz.

Accordingly, Gazprom Gas Distribution is engaged in gas transportation. And Gazprom Mezhregiongaz is an enterprise for the sale and (most important) accounting of this very gas. Simply put, Mezhregiongaz controls all gas sales to the population, enterprises and organizations of a particular region.

Several years ago, Gazprom drew attention to the fact that huge volumes of gas transported through the Caucasus, to the Stavropol Territory and Astrakhan Region, disappear from the pipe. At the entrance to the republic or region one figure, and at the exit another, much smaller.

At the same time, local branches of Mezhregiongaz regularly report that gas is consumed very little. And consumption figures according to metering devices and the figure that the meters issue at the exit from the region do not coincide by several orders of magnitude.

An attempt was made to "drop the landing" in the problem regions. Promising specialists were sent to work in the region. The attempt failed miserably. The "paratroopers" were quickly overbought by the local gas kings, and the situation returned to its original position.

Three years ago, the management of Gazprom created a system that still exists today. Now the "landing" is thrown out for a short time, so that merging with local criminals does not occur. And send people from different regions of the country. We arrived, worked 2-3 week. Checked everything and back. By the way, it is from such travel knowledge of my consultants.

True, the result of such checks is exactly the same as in the first case. The clan system of organization of society contributes to the fact that families control entire industries. In particular, there are only a few families at the Gazprom enterprises.

Some work in the "gas distribution", others in the "Mezhregiongaz." Third, as in the case of Arashukov-father, in the central office. Thus, the family controls the entire chain.



In this “division of labor” there is a certain meaning. Inspectors come and go. Each new check is forced to start work from scratch. Those who have already been aware of events in this region, check others.

Even then, when checking something will turn, you can always turn on the fool. We did not know this, we were not told, thank you for opening your eyes ... In the end, you can simply sabotage the check. When all the threads in the hands, puppies are easy to manage.

I remembered. A year and a half ago, the TV channel Russia 24 talked about a huge breakthrough in the agro-industrial complex of the Stavropol Territory. Greenhouses are kilometers long. Year-round harvests. But most importantly, the greenhouses were heated. What would you think? Gas!

Now the question has arisen: who paid for this miracle of agricultural science? But this is so, own thoughts in the light of the newly discovered theft schemes. Maybe there really is everything in order with gas bills ... You can’t blame someone without proof, but for good reason arrests are also going on in the Stavropol Territory.

How does gas theft occur?

Imagine the pipeline. Not trunk, there is a lot of pressure, and regional. It is transported through the region. And it is from it that one can steal gas. To do this, just make a sidebar, and that's it.

True, there is one disadvantage. That pressure in the pipe. Pressure that does not allow just to cut the pipe and install the tie-in.

No, of course there is equipment with which you can bump into the existing pipe. But it costs a lot of money and you need to buy it for the currency. And his hands are needed. True, unfortunately, all this is available in “Gas Distribution”. And hands, and devices.

But you can act in the old manner. The gas simply overlaps, and the tie-in is done by experts already on the clean pipe. And then the withdrawal of plastic pipes, which cost mere pennies, and that’s it, take the gas to any place. And most importantly, do not pay. Dear people do not have to pay for any gas.

But this is only the beginning. The continuation is no less interesting.

Many readers use gas at home or at work. In each user's life, there were always moments of inspections of the gas stove, boiler and other equipment by employees of Mezhregiongaz units.

Remember two or three middle-aged women with soapy water and a shaving brush that smeared pipe joints with soapy water, lit a stove, examined metering devices?

Do you know why women work as supervisors? The fact is that the post of controller is one of the lowest in Gazprom. Salary, depending on the region, - 15-20 thousand rubles. Among controllers, there is even a “career growth”.

The lowest are those who work with the private sector. The salary is the same, but there are a lot of pipes and devices. Then come those who are trusted to work in high-rise buildings. Well, the highest caste of controllers are those who check organizations and enterprises. Here and on the paw can stick ... sometimes.

It was not by chance that I reminded readers of such a prosaic, but important work. The fact is that one of the interlocutors spoke about his trip to Kabardino-Balkaria. More precisely, about controllers in this republic. That confirmed the other participants in the conversation.

Kabardino-Balkarian controllers - only men. And not youngsters, but rather old people, from 35 and older, work part time. 4 hours per day. 8 man instead of 4-x. At the same time having a car worth less than a million for the controller is a shame. Learn to live is called. With a salary of 8-10 thousand rubles, buying cars for a million and supporting a family is what is worthy of a real man!

This category helps to hide users stolen gas. For the appropriate bribe, of course. Simply put, in the regions there was a situation when the crime seized the pipelines and shamelessly steals, without regard for the laws, the real owners of the gas.

The scheme of theft is simple and effective. At the entrance to the region, we have (I will give the figures just for clarity, for example) the counters show a million cubic meters. The output is already 500 thousand. The region, according to meter readings, used 200 thousands.

On the legitimate question about 300 lost thousands of cubic meters, the head of Gazprom Gas Distribution shows indignant documents. Everything is fine with me! Ask the director of Gazprom Mezhregiongaz. But he also gets documents with measurements and meter readings.

Everything! Nobody stole anything! Documents are in order. And the numbers that showed the counters at the borders, most likely, are not correct. Some kind of malfunction in metering devices.

There is a question about the sidebar. Really experts of "Gazprom" can not find them? They are experts!

Yes, experts. Only sidebars do the same specialists. Local And visitors will be looking for, unfamiliar, as they say, with the specifics of the region. And the gas pipeline passes through the mountains. In places often inaccessible to non-local residents. Or even dangerous. And the use of plastic pipes does not require the thief to bury them deeply.

I really do not want the readers to get the opinion that they only steal in the Caucasian republics. Crime has no nationality. I will specifically list the regions about which my interlocutors spoke. I am sure that the same thefts are possible in other regions.

Kabardino-Balkaria, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Stavropol Territory, Astrakhan Region.

Today announced the amount of losses of Gazprom in 30 billion rubles. After talking with my interlocutors, I had a doubt about this figure. Like the tip of the iceberg. How is the recent scandal in Chechnya, when “we didn’t consume, we won’t pay,” but in reality? But in fact, it was just an attempt to deceive.



Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.

The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.
  • Alexander Staver
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  1. +11
    5 February 2019 05: 43
    Russia's wealth is not your collective farm (draw) good. Terpelka ended with the owner, watch as it passes by. Great of course. But for me, a consumer of blue fuel, nothing changes.
    1. +11
      5 February 2019 07: 31
      You think in slogans from a zombie.
      What does Russia's "heritage" mean in your understanding?
      Who is the "master"?
      I?
      I’ve been a shareholder of Gazprom since privatization.
      Or you?
      Or not you?
      Who?!
      1. +5
        5 February 2019 07: 45
        The author correctly argues, only everything is much simpler. No tie-ins are needed when metering devices are under control. For this, they hold solid controllers. Do you want to pay Gazprom at the established rates, but there is an option to pay in cash in your pocket and then the price becomes 2-3 times lower. Which option would the entrepreneur choose?
        And you think this does not happen in other areas? Occurs, only the scale is slightly smaller.
        And electricity is a similar story. Moreover, it’s not only being stolen upstairs, it’s in our order of things to put a magnet on the counter and brag about it to someone. So you need to start the fight against corruption with yourself.
        1. +21
          5 February 2019 08: 04
          I don’t put magnets on the counters, Nick R ... I put them on my brains so that my head doesn’t burst from indignation ... And the controlling authorities, it’s clear that such magnets have put brains on their heads that only start to crack when the pocket is half it turns out to be empty ...
          1. +2
            5 February 2019 15: 55
            Yes, it's okay for you to worry, dear. This is the only way under capitalism. It's just that there are few clans in the "European" cities and they have little contact with each other. And there, a lot and everyone knows each other and will cover up, especially for a small share. And in this situation, the superior uncles simply discovered that they had not received enough money, so a scandal arose. Everything is prosaic and banal.
            1. -1
              6 February 2019 00: 08
              Under capitalism, this only happens. 

              This happens under socialism or when a company is owned by the state or is not controlled by the owner. A zealous owner would have thought of a triple control system and made a fuss as soon as he saw that the money was flowing in the wrong place.
              Do you think at the very top they do not see these "pranks" of the Gorskiye Gazprom employees? Of course they do. But they close their eyes. Why? The answer is obvious. Share.
              And who is our chairman of the board of directors of Gazprom? D.A. Medvedev.
              Somehow a small businessman told me that to solve the pipe problem they had to be brought to the very top. I did not believe it. I say where you are, and where they are. Yes, for these comrades a million other penny greens. And then when Navalny published his investigation about the charitable foundations for which palaces and sneakers are purchased, they confirmed to me that it was under such a scheme that they worked.
              1. Alf
                0
                6 February 2019 17: 39
                Quote: Nick_R
                and made a noise as soon as he saw that the money was flowing in the wrong direction.

                Past his pocket.
        2. +6
          5 February 2019 08: 25
          In general, not one, but several schemes were used there, in particular the "dead souls" scheme, when 10 non-existing subscribers are registered in an apartment, for whom the budget also pays extra, what a beautiful scheme. Gas is sold to the left, the debt grows, the company is bankrupt.
          It seems like the total debt of the North Caucasus is 140 billion.
          1. +12
            5 February 2019 10: 09
            With manual economic management, a lot of things stick to your hands ...

            They live best in the Kremlin,
            Whatever the day - parade alle:
            Pret tuple member
            Squeezing people into manure.
            And the surrounding servants
            Wear the Order of Merit

            Masters we have bankers
            Punching holes in the budget
            And forge your capital
            Washing black cash.

            There are also United Russia
            For the loot to solve issues
            And after them the deputies -
            Pay back your mandates;
            Mayors greedy without measure
            Heads, greedy for free;
            Governors, Ministers,
            With indulgence on passion
            Everything possible to steal.

            The case of the Council of the Federation, the case of Gazprom or the cause of all of us?
        3. +35
          5 February 2019 08: 44
          In Dagestan (and indeed throughout the North Caucasus), this scheme is often found: a gas pipeline was built in the village (URA, comrades). Two or three households connected to this gas pipeline ... with the installation of meters, with monthly payments, with regular inspections, etc. According to the counters, in a month the village spends and pays 100 cubic meters of gas, and in fact a thousand leaves through the GRU ... Where are the remaining 900 cubes? The inspectors establish that 15-20 houses have been illegally embedded and use the services of Gazprom on the ball. Nobody turns them off: all large families (bring up future horsemen), all respected people (seller, store manager or even store director), etc. etc.
          This is a bottomless pit.
          1. +2
            8 February 2019 11: 27
            But in the Russian Federation there are almost no pipes to the villages, only near export pipelines.
            Residents of the RSFSR do not consume gas.
        4. +1
          5 February 2019 21: 00
          Googled: "The volume of overdue debts of consumers of the Tver region for gas supplied to Gazprom is 8,2 billion rubles." Everyone I know pays ...
          1. 0
            20 February 2019 09: 06
            Quote: Pastoret
            Everyone I know gets paid ...

            They pay operators, not directly to Gazprom. While the operator twists the money on the side, a debt is formed.
      2. +4
        5 February 2019 07: 45
        Interesting .. And over the hillock at "Gazprom" all converges? Well, yes, of course, there are people, and the native state can be milked indefinitely.
        1. +10
          5 February 2019 07: 50
          you are also slipping into the position that Gazprom is a state-owned company. This is not entirely true. Gazprom is a public joint stock company with state participation among shareholders. Shares among minority shareholders are owned by both residents (for example, me) and foreign non-residents. It seems that I’m not mistaken, but at the initial stage the sale of shares to foreigners was strictly forbidden, Browder famously earned money on illegal transactions on this topic, and sat in a pre-trial detention center and the lawyer Magnitsky allegedly died there.
          1. AUL
            +45
            5 February 2019 08: 58
            In the light of recent events, I had a number of questions, mostly rhetorical:
            1. What would happen if Arashukov and Co. launched a paw in their pocket not for the almighty Gazprom, but for someone simpler?
            2. How do people like Arashukov get into the Federation Council? Is it really so easy to go through all the preliminary checks through the FSB, the Prosecutor General’s Office, etc.?
            3. What exactly does the Federation Council do? Here the Duma constantly pleases us in the media with the results of its vital activity, the government also, the president does not crawl out of the durovizor ... But the Federation Council is neither visible nor heard. Does he do anything at all, or is this just a sedimentation tank for former governors and ministers?
            1. -10
              5 February 2019 09: 08
              1. I do not know. What's the problem? In the Far East they pressed the caviar king, on the TV they bomb the mafia for stealing from suitcases at airports.
              2. I am not in the subject.
              3. Take an interest yourself, I personally often see faces from the Federation Council on TV, I hear their initiatives.
              4. Why did you decide that I am competent to answer such questions?
              1. AUL
                +10
                5 February 2019 09: 12
                Ivan, the questions were not for you personally, but in space, purely rhetorical. But, nevertheless, it was interesting to hear your opinion!
              2. Alf
                +3
                5 February 2019 20: 16
                Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
                on TV they bomb the mafia for stealing from suitcases at airports.

                Of course, this is vital for the state ...
                Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
                In the Far East they pressed the caviar king,

                When he sits down for 15 years, then you say, "pressed."
                Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
                I personally often see faces from the Federation Council on TV, I hear their initiatives.

                Have you heard anything NECESSARY for the state, and not for your own pocket?
                1. -4
                  6 February 2019 08: 11
                  a lover of shaking the air for the sake of reaching the ephemeral heights of his own rating
                  1. When it is YOUR suitcase that is stolen, you obviously will not be up to scumbag.
                  2. The caviar king was ruined by business, and the fact that he escaped from law enforcement is a trifle against the background of the loud liquidation of the LARGE criminal business.
                  3. For your own pocket from the Federation Council? Yes, almost any legislative initiative indirectly affects my country. And on yours, by the way, too.
                  4. You are extremely weak in the field of demagoguery. I give you a "bad" and give you a chance to retake during the current semester. You can push!
                  1. Alf
                    0
                    6 February 2019 17: 37
                    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
                    4. You are extremely weak in the field of demagoguery. I give you a "bad" and give you a chance to retake during the current semester. You can push!

                    If there is nothing to say, it is better not to fart in a puddle.
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            2. +15
              5 February 2019 11: 13
              Dear Alexander.
              "... 2. How do people like Arashukov get to the Federation Council? Is it really so easy to go through all the preliminary checks by the FSB, the Prosecutor General's Office, etc.? ..." - Your question is very interesting. Now on TV they show the ancestral estate of the Arashukov family. None of the structures of the federal government had any questions: what funds did this property use?
              P.S. People's humor: "When the investigators entered the conference room of the Federation Council, each of the senators thought that they had come for him."
              1. +5
                5 February 2019 13: 50
                How do people like Arashukov get into the Federation Council - as well as the FSB, the Prosecutor General, and so on!
            3. +4
              5 February 2019 14: 00
              Yes, no matter what, as here. Everything suited everyone, until Arashukov the elder agreed with the unforgiveness of the debt to Chechnya. Here Kadyrov released compromising evidence. The FSB Prosecutor General’s Office, etc., is just a servant — they were told the face, things went well, they said fu — all quietly, calmly.
            4. 0
              5 February 2019 14: 10
              Why do you ask such questions to us? You have your own municipal deputy, there is a deputy in the State Duma, there is a president. So start asking them questions, from the one who is next to you. And then tell us.
            5. +2
              5 February 2019 14: 17
              Without any or - it's just a sedimentation tank for former governors and ministers and others ...!
      3. 0
        8 February 2019 11: 24
        Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
        Who is the "master"?

        The Constitution clearly says that the owner is not the Russian Federation, but the one who has bought the rights to extraction.
      4. 0
        10 February 2019 18: 41
        Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
        I’ve been a shareholder of Gazprom since privatization.
        Or you?
        Or not you?
        Who?!

        Grandfather Fir, colleague! What the hell is the difference, who is the shareholder, or who is the consumer ?! The thing is that theft takes place mainly in the Caucasus, as a national business. And the asset is the asset, it is just necessary to streamline the salaries of superiors and subordinates in the enterprise, 51% of the shares of which belong to the state, to restore proper order not by visiting inspectors, but by riot police, regardless of the person and we will be happy!
    2. +20
      5 February 2019 09: 15
      Quote: Rust
      Russia's wealth is not your collective farm (draw) good.

      ----------------------------
      There is one big mistake in your thesis, for which minuses fly to you. "The property of Russia" should be taken in quotation marks, implying that this is a feeder who needs a feeder, and not all the people. Second, today in Russia everything is done for Gazprom (of course, only the management headed by Miller), in the name of Gazprom, for the benefit of Gazprom, for the future of Gazprom. It is because of Gazprom that we are "on the distant approaches" in Syria and because of Gazprom, we merged Novorossia. Because of Gazprom, money is taken immediately from the pockets of the population. Because of Gazprom, we are in the WTO. Because of Gazprom, we are interested in the well-being of Venezuela. And then, of course, we decided to brush the hair of a member of the Federation Council who does not speak "Russian" and has a 6-grade education, since he just bought this place for a lot of money (for us, of course, huge, for him a pittance, money literally comes from heaven to him anyway ).
      1. +2
        5 February 2019 12: 30
        There is one big mistake in your thesis, for which minuses fly to you. "Property of Russia" must be enclosed in quotation marks

        You can write without quotes: Property of United Russia))
        Nevertheless, the income to the budget of the Russian Federation from there is considerable, if not the main one, therefore it is quite possible to call this or that "property".
        But since they steal along the way to the Budget and steal after it has already reached the Budget and distributed among the regions, we have what we have. There seems to be an affirmation, but as it were.
      2. 0
        10 February 2019 18: 43
        Quote: Altona
        for us, of course, huge, for him pennies, money anyway literally flies to him from him)

        As it turned out, not from heaven, a colleague, but from a pipe! Gas pipe.
    3. +8
      5 February 2019 11: 31
      Quote: Rust
      Russia's wealth is not your collective farm (draw) good. Terpelka ended with the owner, watch as it passes by. Great of course. But for me, a consumer of blue fuel, nothing changes.


      If the gas price for residents was not 6 rubles, but 1 ruble per m50, I think there was no point in stealing it, just like with electricity - we sell to the Chinese for 5 kopecks and to us for XNUMX rubles, where is the fairness?
      1. +14
        5 February 2019 13: 34
        The case of the Council of the Federation, the case of Gazprom or the cause of all of us?
      2. 0
        10 February 2019 18: 47
        Quote: Wolverine
        we sell to the Chinese for 50 kopecks and to us for 5 rubles, where is justice?

        And justice, colleague, in the pockets of toilers from the distribution of the electric bells and whistles! It is not for nothing that they divided the feeder in all these sharagi - some produce, others distribute, and others sell to the final consumer! There would be one responsible, it would be easier to track, and so try, find the ends!
  2. +7
    5 February 2019 05: 43
    The story is interesting ... it would be nice to strengthen it with concrete surnames and posts ... what scope for punitive organs is here ... but I'm afraid everything will be as in the works of Saltykov-Shchedrin ... hehe he comes to us an examiner.
    1. +12
      5 February 2019 05: 57
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      It would be good to strengthen its specific names and positions.

      See the list of detainees ... I think it is necessary to talk about specific names only when there is reinforced concrete evidence. Money is big, hence the barricades from the bar will be serious
      1. +7
        5 February 2019 06: 09
        The list is small, by and large ... the gas theft business is much wider and if you dig deeper and wider ... mom mission ... it’s better not to think about it.
        1. +7
          5 February 2019 06: 43
          Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.

          Apparently the time has come to find out how in the region the population as a whole earns a living. Perhaps a mercantile, Soviet-era mentality gave way to the mentality of the builder of a bright capitalist society ...
      2. -8
        5 February 2019 07: 37
        And it’s good that there will be very qualified defenders, which means that law enforcement agencies will learn how to work competently. They will be forced to work like that. And it pleases, it benefits us all. After such work, Russia will not have to pay again by decision of the ECHR due to professionally very inferior law enforcement officers.
    2. +4
      5 February 2019 07: 35
      Not certainly in that way.
      The detention of the senator is not an ordinary fact.
      The media tide in the media is also pleasing. But it also inspires concern that perhaps you are right, and everything will go off as a beep / whistle. I hope that the run will not weaken. I really hope that the guarantor will be the guarantor.
      It is possible that the senator’s landing is also an element of the struggle against the arrogance of Chechnya in the gas issue.
      1. +14
        5 February 2019 08: 07
        Media roll-over? As they rolled it, it will be rolled back, and new rates will be rolled in to us.
        1. 0
          5 February 2019 08: 12
          Mixing French with Nizhny Novgorod ... (c)
          Tariffs will change in any case. This is inevitable, like death and taxes (c).
      2. Alf
        +4
        5 February 2019 20: 20
        Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
        The detention of the senator is not an ordinary fact.
        The media tide in the media is also pleasing. But it also inspires concern that perhaps you are right, and everything will go off as a beep / whistle. I hope that the run will not weaken. I really hope that the guarantor will be the guarantor.

        Serdyukov with his pacifier was also arrested, they made a fuss ... they released him. "We are not giving up ours."
        1. 0
          6 February 2019 08: 14
          In this matter, our points of view coincide.
          Here we are fellow travelers, though not like-minded people.
    3. +15
      5 February 2019 10: 06
      Something like this!
      1. -6
        5 February 2019 10: 43
        Lies in the first line: Raul Arashukov is not an adviser to the general director "Gazprom".
        And then comes the blizzard about friends.
        Minus one.
        I do not like embezzlers, but I also do not like liars!
        1. 0
          5 February 2019 19: 25
          Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
          Raul Arashukov

          Advisor to the General Director of Gazprom Mezhregiongaz LLC
          1. 0
            6 February 2019 08: 15
            Feel the difference. Megaraznitsu.
            1. 0
              6 February 2019 08: 26
              Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
              Megaraznitsu

              Interregional difference. laughing She is, I do not argue. request
      2. +5
        5 February 2019 14: 05
        Something like this!
        Rogozin Dmiitriy - General Director of the State Space Corporation Roscosmos
        Alexey Rogozin - his son, Vice President for Transport Aviation of PJSC UAC, General Director of PJSC Il
        ... and so on and so on and so on and so on ... !!! Here's a "social lift" for you, so buckle up and take off!
        1. -3
          6 February 2019 08: 17
          In England, in general, one elderly lady seizes the century of rule of her grandchildren.
          In the United States, the son after the father "inherits" the presidency, and the wife after the husband claims the same.
          In India, Pakistan, too, something like that ...
          We are not the first and not the last in this matter on the globe.
          And what exactly do you have against Ragozin Jr.? Specifically!
          1. +1
            6 February 2019 22: 15
            against nothing .. but whereas in England it is necessary to officially declare, we have noblemen peers and a king .. and all .. no questions ..
      3. 0
        8 February 2019 11: 31
        So it will be, as long as you can stupidly take a bundle of money from any cash desk and buy immunity from government agencies for a small fraction.
    4. 0
      10 February 2019 18: 48
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      what scope for punitive organs here ...

      For whom - punitive, and for whom - human rights! smile
    5. AUL
      0
      17 February 2019 18: 53
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      but I’m afraid everything will be like in Saltykov-Shchedrin’s works ... hehe he comes to us an auditor.

      You messed up the dark here: the inspector was not traveling with Saltykov-Shchedrin, but in the 4th volume of "War and Peace" comrade. Griboyedov! laughing
  3. +5
    5 February 2019 05: 46
    for some reason such chaos is not observed.
    I remember a phrase from an old movie: "I am an honest thief"!
  4. +13
    5 February 2019 06: 11
    It would be funny to listen to the report of the "special inspectors" foremen. ... Billions of cubes are flying away. Just "Bermuda pipelines"! ...
    It is impressive that shareholders (foreigners and de facto foreigners) have been indifferent for years watching billions being stolen from them.
    1. +9
      5 February 2019 06: 48
      Quote: samarin1969
      Billions of cubes fly away nowhere.

      Against this background, the fuss at the Naftogaz pipe reminds:
      The manager of the 2nd house of Starsobes was a shy thief. His whole being protested against thefts, but he could not steal. He stole, and he was ashamed. He stole constantly, constantly ashamed, and therefore his well-shaven cheeks always burned with a flush of embarrassment, modesty, shyness and embarrassment.
    2. +20
      5 February 2019 09: 46
      Quote: samarin1969
      It would be funny to listen to the report of the "special inspectors" foremen. ... Billions of cubes are flying away. Just "Bermuda pipelines"! ...
      It is impressive that shareholders (foreigners and de facto foreigners) have been indifferent for years watching billions being stolen from them.

      And after that they scratch us that it is impossible to nationalize the oil and gas sector because then it will not be effective ..
      1. +1
        7 February 2019 17: 50
        Quote: Svarog
        watched indifferently for years as billions were stolen from them.

        But they didn’t know. There is a fixed profit, dividends are paid from it. Who cares what they attribute to natural losses? The population will pay for everything
      2. +1
        10 February 2019 18: 52
        Quote: Svarog
        And after that they scratch us that it is impossible to nationalize the oil and gas sector because then it will not be effective ..

        Well, colleague, this is no longer relevant in the light of recent statements by experts who say that people began to wake up and talk about it louder! It's about revising the results of privatization, article 9 of the Constitution, monitoring the country's budget, etc.! In short, the head of RosOnano, hold on to the scoundrel!
  5. +1
    5 February 2019 06: 11
    Well, what is it? The people should use their wealth. The oligarchs from Gazprom will not be impoverished.
    1. +6
      5 February 2019 06: 51
      Quote: Pessimist22
      The oligarchs from Gazprom will not be impoverished.

      Maybe yes ... But why is this dust in the eye?
  6. +6
    5 February 2019 06: 57
    Yes, 30 lard is in great doubt .. But the problem is even deeper .. For example, municipal unitary enterprises Heating networks, in the Krasnodar Territory almost all bankrupts ..
    1. +7
      5 February 2019 07: 13
      No, dear author, this is not the business of us all. Most people live modestly and honestly in the circumstances proposed by the former partocracy. And even poor. And even very poor. The scale of the dirt created by those who now fed, is so great that the mind refuses to accept it and even more so evaluate it adequately. It’s just that we have a long-established opinion: power steals beyond the limits, there’s no morality ... But indignation is fleeting life ... Let those who should be ex officio indignant.
      1. +4
        5 February 2019 14: 35
        You know, I'm honestly on the drum. Taking into account age. I’m watching Finnish TV and quietly envy them. No hatred, no brains, no zombies (maybe yes, but somehow tricky). Show their houses, their garden, etc. etc. Fishing, boats ... They show how ordinary people live - bakers, doctors, workers. How people help others. They do not care about this Gazprom and further on the list. And they also have deputies. And this is a country that has a border with Russia. I understand that there are problems and they are trying to solve them. That's life. A lot of American and English films. American shows. And the Finns love the States. But the people have not lost their identity.
        And you know why they have corruption on mines? National trait. To steal from their bottom. Father told me. A familiar officer went to Finland. I forgot my suitcase at the station. I went from the hotel there. The suitcase stood on the platform, where he forgot it. That was in the 50s. They said that they stole hands for theft.
        I liked yours: "And to be indignant - life is fleeting ... Let those who are supposed to be outraged by their position."
        1. 0
          8 February 2019 11: 33
          Quote: ROBIN-SON
          They said that they stole hands for theft.

          In China, despite the large number of thieves, even now you can catch the procedure of chopping off a thief’s hand, and right in Beijing. Intolerance of thieves allows the state not to collapse.
          1. 0
            8 February 2019 23: 25
            The population in Finland is small. It is hard to live with a severed hand, like with a stigma.
  7. +2
    5 February 2019 07: 01
    Why gas in the Caucasus? It’s warm there!
    1. +5
      5 February 2019 07: 32
      Alcohol factories, legal and not, oil distillation such and such, fruit and vegetable factories, hotels and rest houses with their boiler houses in the resort area, greenhouses, private houses, as a rule, are rather big, and so on, so that consumers are gaining.
  8. +19
    5 February 2019 07: 08
    Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.
    The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.

    The Caucasus has always been, is and will be one of the most problematic regions of the Russian Federation. I do not know what percentage of the population of the Caucasus wants to work honestly, standing at the machine tool or sitting at the combine. But apparently not big.
    In the 90s they "made money" in the war. Now there is no war, but there is some kind of agreement on illegal gas trade, which was slightly violated by local traders, reaching a new level of theft and sales.
    Well, not enough stolen by them, so they decided to remove "extra mouths from the boiler" by the hands of law enforcement officers.
    So the authorities have to pay off with gas-oil-wires. If you don’t pay tribute, you will get a new war.
    Nothing new has happened.
    I don’t understand that Gazprom is so mean and greedy? What gas, oil and money ran out or what?
    They took a respected man, a senator, and sent him under investigation. What kind of people?
    Is it so possible? And who only taught them this?
    1. -9
      5 February 2019 08: 50
      Quote: Tashkent
      Well, not enough stolen by them, so they decided to remove "extra mouths from the boiler" by the hands of law enforcement officers.
      So the authorities have to pay off with gas-oil-wires. If you don’t pay tribute, you will get a new war.

      When I read similar and similar things, I always have a question about the persons who utter this ... Who is this? Provocateurs? About provocateurs? Not smart people at all? Agents of influence? Fifth column? Hysterics? Look, an amazing and paradoxical thing is happening! The fight against corruption, as I understand it, involves the conduct of certain events by certain organizations so? Documenting criminal activity - establishing the circumstances, places, time, connections, methods, structure, finally the defendants themselves and their stable groups ... Detentions and investigative actions ... Court ... Sentence ... Punishment ... And? And it turns out that the more the government itself fights against corruption and detains corrupt officials, the more such Tashkent residents (who have a whole army here) throw mud at it! "Stop feeding the Caucasus and Russia is paying tribute to the Caucasus" this is already such a mossy liberal-provocative bauble, which is now supported with inspiration by all left radicals, from the series of the second half of the 80s and early 90s. fat"! Such stuffing is aimed at disunity and division, strife and enmity! We have to hear more direct hostile voices on this topic - "Russians are afraid of Islamic radicals inside the country and pay them tribute for a little bit of peaceful coexistence ..." Well, yes, yes ... Only just before "paying such a tribute" we fucked them up so that they ran to complain to all possible Western human rights organizations !!! Forgot? In the Caucasus, a large-scale operation is currently underway to restore order, incl. and anti-corruption measures. How many people and groups were exposed before the Arashukovs and what level everyone can easily inquire about - everything is freely available!
      Corruption is everywhere. In any country! Under any regime, even where they shoot for her and hang on the squares! People for whom theft is the only and natural form of existence has always been and will always be unfortunately.
      "The rule of law in the country is determined not by the presence of thieves, but by the ability of the authorities to neutralize them!"
      Gleb Zheglov
      1. +15
        5 February 2019 10: 04
        That's when I read similar and similar things, I always have a question about the personalities that are uttering it ... Who is it at all? Provocateurs? About provocateurs? Absolutely not smart people? Agents of influence? Fifth column? Hysterics?

        Hello to you, too!
        I understand that there are 2 opinions - one of yours and the other is wrong. Anyway. I will survive this, and you even more so.
        I will not quote everything, but using the example of the next 2 paragraphs, explain the actions of the authorities in relation to Serdyukov and Vasilyeva? Which of them, how and why were "documented", neutralized and for how many imprisoned? And on whom there is no proof yet? And why isn't she?
        The fight against corruption, as I understand it, implies the holding of certain activities by certain organizations, right? Documenting criminal activity - establishing circumstances, places, time, connections, methods, structure, finally the persons involved and their stable groups ... Detentions and investigative actions ... Court ... Sentence ... Punishment ... And?

        "The rule of law in the country is determined not by the presence of thieves, but by the ability of the authorities to neutralize them!"
        Gleb Zheglov
        1. -12
          5 February 2019 11: 46
          Quote: Tashkent
          Hello to you, too!
          I understand that there are 2 opinions - one of yours and the other is wrong. Anyway.

          Hello Hello. Your opinion is more correct its essence I have described above. I agree to go along the path of the smallest and characterize it as pure populism. This is in the hope that you are simply mistaken and correct it sometime. We are talking about the situation, and not about specific personalities. I do not have the details of the Vasilyeva-Serdyukov case, and for this I would not want to discuss old women at the entrance. I have no doubt that you do not know anything at all, except that you were allowed to find out. Naturally, none of the defendants naturally evokes me. However, I allow myself to make such a remark - it was at this time that we suddenly saw a completely new and modern Russian army armed and equipped with the latest words ... which carried out in 2014 a brilliant operation in Crimea that has no analogues in world history! Western partners only recovered when Russian flags fluttered proudly over government buildings across the peninsula. Read the Western press of the time. There you will see a shock - where did the Russian army come from? Where does this technique come from? Where did such a bold army from them have corruption ???? They all plundered ????? I’m not trying to justify anyone, I repeat - I don’t know the details of this case. I just analyze and draw conclusions. It turns out that, to put it mildly, not everything was stolen ... Then it turned out that we also have weapons that do not know analogues, which by the way are already entering the troops ... Everything’s cunning ... smile
          1. +11
            5 February 2019 12: 10
            which carried out in 2014 a brilliant operation in Crimea that has no analogues in world history!

            Of course, I am also happy for you personally and the annexed Crimea. And yet, where so much pathos comes from?
            Read the Western press of the time. There you will see a shock - where did the Russian army come from? Where does this technique come from? Where did such a bold army from them have corruption ???? They all plundered ?????

            I understand that you are a true patriot of your homeland and nevertheless sincerely wish you to be a little more modest.
            I do not read the Western press because I am not interested. But I have enough friends and acquaintances who have gone west from the former republics of the USSR.
            What does the west think of Russia and its army, the annexation of Crimea, Syria, etc.?
            He doesn't think anything. 90% of the Western population does not know where this Crimea or Damascus is. They just do not give a damn about all this, they have their mouths full of problems and worries. And they are absolutely not afraid of "Russians", oddly enough.
            For ordinary Westerners, the Russian army with the Crimea and Gazprom, as for you and me, "The influence of lunar attraction on the menstrual period of the sea urchin."
            But Western politicians, analysts (who should be employed) and the military are perfectly, better than you and me, aware of the state of the Russian army, of all its advantages and disadvantages.
            1. -6
              5 February 2019 12: 28
              Quote: Tashkent
              Of course, I am also happy for you personally and the annexed Crimea. And yet, where so much pathos comes from?

              Pathos?! I just told you that at the same time when it was like everyone was stealing, we suddenly had such an army with such weapons and ... It was at that time that this army returned Crimea to Russia with 2 Crimeans! Does it annoy you ?! And further we will continue in the same spirit! Why the rest of the content of your comment about the utter indifference of ordinary people of the West to Russia, I forgive did not understand? If everyone doesn’t care to such an extent, then what’s the matter then ?! Or is there not really any Russophobia?
              1. +3
                5 February 2019 12: 40
                It was at this time that this army returned Crimea to Russia with 2 Crimeans! Does it annoy you ?! And further we will continue in the same spirit! Why the rest of the content of your comment about the utter indifference of ordinary people of the West to Russia, I forgive did not understand? If everyone doesn’t care to such an extent, then what’s the matter then ?! Or is there not really any Russophobia?

                Why annoying? The army complied with the order. This is normal. So it should be, then she and the army. I am happy for 2000000 Crimeans, if they are happy, God grant them good health! And Russophobia injected into the world is present. I am not talking about that. You yourself climbed into some jungle.
                We generally started this:
                Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.
                1. -1
                  5 February 2019 12: 42
                  Of course. I am talking about the fact that large-scale comprehensive events are being held in the region at present, including in this regard.
      2. +6
        5 February 2019 10: 41
        Cheslav, you are right, as always, and it is very pleasing that the Russian officer has such a position, filled with the energy of faith in the possibility of positive changes. But for ordinary citizens, the actions of law enforcement officers are so late that our faith, which had previously been at least a mirage, melts rapidly, thinning out in the haze, occasionally arising as a ghost of hope in statements like yours. Health to you, Cheslav, and success! You don’t let us down!
        1. -7
          5 February 2019 11: 51
          And I don’t seem to fail. If we talk about the actions of law enforcement officers, then, as we know in this area, EVERYTHING is understood and understood by us! Just like in medicine! In the USSR, militia was so scolded at what the light stands on and those same ordinary citizens! And not only that, even because of the actions of the Soviet police, bloody riots took place all over the USSR ... And now they talk about it as a paradise on earth ... Well, strangeness, tell me in kind ...
          1. -6
            5 February 2019 12: 38
            It’s just that we have some bloggers determined to criticize everything and everyone! In all the events that take place in the country, you can always find flaws, and so they deserve close attention. This is certainly a convenient position, but sometimes this pessimism, already bordering on deb .... Corruption in the country, no one is fighting it, everyone is corrupt! When they begin to plant governors, ministers, now, as senators now, again everything is bad, why didn’t they plant them earlier? So what, we will live with a sense of our own superiority over everyone, but you certainly, if you were in these positions, then .........., what? Criticism is of course a useful thing, but what criticism is constructive, with concrete proposals for rectifying the situation, and not sweeping, only to satisfy its own unfulfilled ambitions.
            1. -2
              5 February 2019 12: 46
              I completely agree with you, Boris. I note - criticism of the authorities from all sides is heard just when the authorities report the next corruption detentions! And this is no longer a paradox. This is called speculation on this topic!
          2. +6
            5 February 2019 14: 52
            And what is there to understand and understand? A thief should sit in jail.
            And about this "senator". In the USSR, in order to take some kind of post, they filled out a bunch of questionnaires, who, what? Then they checked.
            SF probably like in the USSR Politburo. A man in order to get there, how many questionnaires and checks have passed?
            But I honestly can’t recall that a person would get there with 6 classes of the Soviet school !!! There was an eight-year-old, and if he could not study, after she went to vocational school.
            Were there scandals? A man is not a robot. I reached the topman in politics, control is weaker. Could not resist...
            1. -1
              5 February 2019 15: 17
              Quote: ROBIN-SON
              And about this "senator". In the USSR, in order to take some kind of post, they filled out a bunch of questionnaires, who, what? Then they checked.
              SF probably like in the USSR Politburo. A man in order to get there, how many questionnaires and checks have passed?

              And how did Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevardnadze, Yakovlev end up in the upper echelons of the party power of the USSR in this case ... Do you know that Yeltsin's closest associate Burbulis taught dialectical materialism and Marxist-Leninist philosophy for already 10 (!!!) years? ! This is one of the main architects of the Belovezhskaya agreement, he also signed it together with Yeltsin on behalf of the RSFSR! And it was this convinced member of the CPSU who, since 1971, a graduate specialist in "Dialectical materialism", lobbied Gaidar and his team ... The consequences are known!
              Here you tell me all these figures whose name the Legion filled in which forms and which checks passed ?! This puppy is Arashukov in comparison with them!
              1. 0
                5 February 2019 21: 52
                Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Shevarnadze, Yakovlev ... Sorry. When did these people come into power? Behind them, what was the loop of forgery, did they drop out of school? Without entering universities, did you get diplomas? In the zone, they got hooked? Yakovlev studied in the states. Shevardnadze worthily represented Soviet diplomacy.
                Gorbachev when the perestroika began, people rejoiced. But the man, I think at the suggestion of his wife, imagined that he was a genius. It turned out not an eagle. But the idea was a good one.
                And what Burbulis did not please you? A convinced member of the CPSU since 71 years. In 71 there were no longer convinced, well, if only Suslov and Yegor Kuzmich, and even then we still need to check.
                Already 10 years taught Marxism - Leninism. Did you learn from him? Yes, in our universities there were entire departments of ML. Well, not Burbulis, so Ivanov would have been. And these people knew the language ....
                Time passed and the outlook on things changed.
                1. +1
                  8 February 2019 11: 37
                  Quote: ROBIN-SON
                  Shevardnadze worthily represented Soviet diplomacy.

                  Here it is not necessary ... Chevy's deeds in the diplomatic field are still those. There is nothing to brag about.
      3. Alf
        +6
        5 February 2019 20: 24
        Quote: Cheslav Czursky
        "The rule of law in the country is determined not by the presence of thieves, but by the ability of the authorities to neutralize them!"

        So with the ability to do this, the Putin regime is not just bad, but nothing at all.
  9. +4
    5 February 2019 07: 09
    new payments came in the Samara region - Gazprom decided to distribute and sell gas without intermediaries (who raised the price), so the price increased ... and the whole region MUST !!! from 500 to 22 thousand per point (as far as I know) the data on the counters were registered in the payments for October, and the rest of the months were "forgiven". grandmothers in the village were in a panic, they paid and ... they must !!!
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 07: 23
      We state the obvious - And where is there no such thing? -
      1. 0
        5 February 2019 08: 01
        In my region there is no such thing.
        There is no organized and structured theft.
        1. +6
          5 February 2019 10: 21
          Et where in the vastness of OUR such "miracle-miraculous" exists? by the way, do you HAVE gas?
          1. +10
            5 February 2019 11: 31
            If a person says that they do not have "organized and structured theft" in the region, then he either does not know, or he is part of this "organized and structured theft"
            1. -2
              5 February 2019 12: 53
              Quote: Egorchik
              If a person says that they do not have "organized and structured theft" in the region, then he either does not know, or he is part of this "organized and structured theft"

              Igor, then by any means everything always and everywhere should be bad ?! You gave such an unambiguous description to a person i.e. or not at all from this world or a thief! It’s interesting, how then to characterize your state of mind? Well, when everything around is bad and good, it just can’t be called what is it?
            2. +1
              5 February 2019 13: 37
              Quote: Egorchik
              If a person says that they do not have "organized and structured theft" in the region, then he either does not know, or he is part of this "organized and structured theft"

              I’m prostrating!
              I sprinkle ashes on my head ...
              Man!
              I am proud to stomp the earth at the same time with you!
          2. -2
            5 February 2019 12: 56
            Quote: rocket757
            Et where in the vastness of OUR such "miracle-miraculous" exists? by the way, do you HAVE gas?

            And Lukashenko has recently very popularly answered this question for you! He wants gas, like in Smolensk! He even swears and stamps his feet! A person’s dream is ...
            1. +3
              5 February 2019 13: 40
              Quote: Cheslav Czursky
              And Lukashenko has recently very popularly answered this question for you! He wants gas, like in Smolensk! He even swears and stamps his feet! A person’s dream is ...

              With Daddy, okay, there are their own "little bums", a couple of days ago, I was enlightened about them, once again.
              Ivan__Pomidorov (Ivan Pomidorov) Today, 08:01
              I was surprised by a man, very much, so I wanted to know where this is! at the expense of gasification, it's just a clarification.
              I am not opposed to the fact that there are exceptions, BUT .... is it time to move there?
          3. 0
            5 February 2019 13: 35
            There is gas.
            There are gas thefts.
            Gazprom is fighting them.
            The greatest arrogance in the region was from the utilities. Gazprom has put things in order in recent years.
            I judge by the press, and he himself participated in such processes by the edge.
  10. +5
    5 February 2019 07: 22
    The guys are not from those who can, have stolen ..... about - froze! Natural result, local jackal-yat, large, center-wave, one tooth!
  11. +25
    5 February 2019 07: 25
    Laughed. So who is to blame ... Controllers from Kabardino-Balkaria! wassat Bastrykin and Seagull arrived in the wrong place. Neither Miller, nor the cabinet with the owner, they all have nothing to do with it! Bravo. The fight against corruption at the height - they clean one clan to come in an arc. That's all the motivation. But the saddest thing is that if you remove the chatter about the Asharukovs, the agonizing regime of the mustachioed driver, Ukraine, Syria and the United States, then there will remain gray gloom, with a stifled economy and poverty. Dullness, where something is constantly burning, explodes, beats, taking the lives of people. Hospice, wake up! It's time to think and live!
    1. +4
      5 February 2019 07: 52
      Offer to shut up and be silent in a rag? Somehow the first part of the post does not stack with the second ...
      The article describes the technology of theft. Guilty appoint? For that there is a consequence and a trial. But it is precisely by the very form of theft that the example with the controllers is quite suitable.
      1. +17
        5 February 2019 08: 06
        1. In Russia there is no investigation or trial. There is solely a charge and nothing more. In Russia, the share of acquittals is 0%. This is the collapse of the judicial system. In the USSR it was 4%.
        2. I propose to turn on the brain and then you will see a simple causal relationship. It turns out that the controllers were not to blame for the theft, but the company's management, who allowed the creation of conditions for such theft. By the way, the leadership has been around for almost 20 years at the posts, despite the more significant failures.
        3. "Silence in a rag" is the reading of such senseless libels and belief in something that does not exist - Russian investigation and justice.
        1. -2
          5 February 2019 09: 40
          Quote: UMA-UMA
          In Russia, there is no investigation, no court.

          In both. And what about Russia? Anarchy mother of order? Revolutionary (bureaucratic, alegarchic, peasant, etc.) consciousness?
          You, as I see it, perfectly understand the technology of draining the problem. To swing, to lead far into the distance, to transfer the arrows to the top ...
          1. +9
            5 February 2019 10: 55
            0,4% of acquittals. Is this a drain of the problem ?! Maybe a 20-year-old miller is in place with constantly deteriorating company drain results? Here the drain of the state and not to the Kremlin trolls is here for me to talk about the technology of sidetracking. And in Russia there is eternal idleness and chatter.
            1. 0
              5 February 2019 13: 37
              Quote: UMA-UMA
              0,4% of acquittals. Is this a drain of the problem ?!

              Or maybe this is an indicator of the quality of the investigation, huh? Is it just that all the rest of the 99,6% are completely and completely guilty? It remains only to pronounce a sentence - 5 years of execution, every day and to death! laughing
              1. +4
                5 February 2019 13: 57
                Yeah, Bastrykin also believes that is why he requested to double-check the case with an excuse. I'm not joking, in December I initiated.
        2. +1
          5 February 2019 12: 30
          Quote: UMA-UMA
          In Russia, the share of acquittals is 0%

          So we have a Romano-German legal system. Cases without a sufficient evidence base do not reach the court; they are closed at earlier stages. In the Anglo-Saxon legal system, any case goes to court, and only then the investigation begins. I do not condone the judges - there are many claims, but the fact is the fact ...
          1. +3
            5 February 2019 13: 24
            It would be ridiculous if it weren’t so sad: Cases closed for lack or proof of 0%.
            1. +1
              5 February 2019 20: 45
              Quote: region58
              Quote: UMA-UMA
              In Russia, the share of acquittals is 0%

              So we have a Romano-German legal system. Cases without a sufficient evidence base do not reach the court; they are closed at earlier stages. In the Anglo-Saxon legal system, any case goes to court, and only then the investigation begins. I do not condone the judges - there are many claims, but the fact is the fact ...

              if you had ever dealt with our judicial system, you would have understood that the Anglo-Saxon system is a salvation for Russia. Everything is always studied here with us, the current case is not studied from scratch .. the judge immediately examines the indictment .. and if he acquitted, there will be so many runs that you go nuts
              1. +1
                8 February 2019 11: 46
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                if you had ever dealt with our judicial system, you would have understood that the Anglo-Saxon system is a salvation for Russia.

                Too much was given to the judges for interpretation. It has already been proven that on average women judges give sentences for robberies, murders, etc. serious crimes are 25-30% less than male judges, and vice versa, for crimes of a sexual nature they give almost 2 times more than male judges. In our court, when divorcing, it is almost impossible to get custody of the child by the husband, because almost 80% of judges are women.
                As a result, you can get a real term for a loaf of bread, and you can NOT SIT for billions. + Jury trials make a contribution.
                In fact, a caste justice system has developed that is very supportive of the rich and extremely repressive of the poor.
  12. 0
    5 February 2019 07: 32
    gas theft in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions .... The most interesting thing is that for some reason there is no such lawlessness in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk).
    Exactly what scale ... I want to say that theft is a problem for the whole country. For example, in three regions of the Urals in 2017, "14 facts of unaccounted and non-contractual consumption of electricity, not gas, were revealed. The total volume amounted to 419 million kWh for over 316,647 million rubles." ...
  13. 3vs
    +2
    5 February 2019 07: 34
    Here it is already necessary to connect the FSB, this is a problem of national importance and security.
    To identify the insets, stop the pipelines, run inside robots with cameras and
    identify all the inset on the site.
    Well, then the distribution of gifts to each person involved.
    1. +17
      5 February 2019 07: 52
      3vs, you are naive. The supreme power of the country is held by thieves. They are her support. There will be no action by the FSB. There will be no power to cut their supports, otherwise it will fall. It’s much easier for her once a year to arrange a circus in the form of communication with magazines and once a year on TV with the people, and she is all ours, so kind ...
      1. 3vs
        +1
        5 February 2019 07: 58
        I don’t think that everything is so simple.
        Current events show that attempts to squeeze out of the population are additional
        requisitions can come around, some work on putting things in order with
        theft on a national scale.
        Another question is whether there will be landings, whether there is a will to restore order in this matter.
        Everything rests on the frames!
      2. +5
        5 February 2019 08: 04
        As in the good old Soviet film "Volga, Volga" - remember the words of Comrade Byvalov - "Mary Ivanna, take the old MARRIAGE from the citizens and give them a NEW!" -
        Some will be put on, others will come, the same! This "circus" will go on FOREVER!
        Capitalism, however, in its most lousy form!
  14. +4
    5 February 2019 08: 12
    Quote: 3vs
    I don’t think that everything is so simple.
    Current events show that attempts to squeeze out of the population are additional
    requisitions can come around, some work on putting things in order with
    theft on a national scale.
    Another question is whether there will be landings, whether there is a will to restore order in this matter.
    Everything rests on the frames!

    Those. does the king \ defame the retinue?
    What it seems naive to suppose that people are corrupted by vices of the current system!
    About exceptions later, but can we look at crime statistics in the spheres .... yes, in all spheres we will look?
    The picture is not ah obtained! Under the Soviets, there was no such thing on such a scale .... and there was always where to complain and get help from! and now, where to run, where to complain, and most importantly to whom ???
  15. +18
    5 February 2019 08: 23
    They steal everywhere, but in the Caucasus, this is from the time of the USSR. Often visited there in those years. In the buffet beer: the price tag is 50 kopecks, in reality they sell you for 70 and yesterday. They put products on the scales, but they don’t look at the weight, they call it immediately. And do not want, do not take. Because they have money in all places, men work. And sellers in grocery stores too. And this practice is from the store to the very top. Cronyism, bribery, fraternity and mutual responsibility. But, interestingly, everyone is happy with everything there. We were also happy then. In Georgia, they were at work.
    The money ran out, we decided to bargain with diesel fuel. Sold 4 tons already, then a black car is approaching. From there a police chief falls out, all in regalia. We think, well, everything, OBKhSS, burned. And he opens the trunk, and there is a barrel of 100l. He asked to sell diesel fuel. This is me because many generations live there in such a spin and sincerely consider this the norm. And everything from the bottom of society to the top. These checks, well chop off one family paw, another will appear. If you stick your hands high, you can arrange an anti-Russian provocation. It seems that here it is necessary to direct the strands not by checks, but by changing the system of mutual subordination and responsibility. Let them distribute there, but upon the fact of the counter at the entrance to the exit from the country, and the difference in financial dependence on the income of the highest authorities of the country. Only they themselves, with the right motivation, will be able to record for themselves.
    1. +8
      5 February 2019 08: 34
      It seems that here it is necessary to direct the strands not by checks, but by changing the system of mutual subordination and responsibility.

      JV Stalin knew them all very well. That's why to clean up and deported everyone from there.
    2. +7
      5 February 2019 11: 10
      Quote: Vladimir T
      They steal everywhere, but in the Caucasus, this is from the time of the USSR.

      This is since the accession of the Caucasus. If Yermolov had to take hostages ... In response to the kidnapping of a major ... request Our mentality is incompatible with the Asian one, it would be high time to understand, and not jump on the same rake.
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 02: 29
        The East, like the Caucasus, is a "delicate matter", and these are neighboring countries-states, a compromise must be sought. As Georgia once asked for joining Russia. This is possible when Russia becomes stronger and more influential in the world. In the meantime, these corrupt turntables rush to the one who rules geopolitics. When Russia regains its former influence, then we shouldn't forget, as you say, about the rake.
        1. 0
          6 February 2019 09: 13
          Quote: Vladimir T
          once Georgia itself requested accession to Russia.

          The Georgians are Orthodox, we have more common ground with them than with Muslims, however, they are also freeloaders.
          1. 0
            6 February 2019 22: 16
            no more than we have halaavschikov .. MMM remember
    3. +4
      5 February 2019 15: 03
      Vladimir T
      Let them distribute themselves there, but upon the fact of the counter at the entrance to the exit from the country

      That's right, you write about the local mentality and you propose the correct one. How much they received at the entrance, they must pay for so much. And so on all topics. Only the Kremlin has a thin gut to do so. Not capable. request
  16. +8
    5 February 2019 08: 54
    "Greenhouses are kilometers long. Year-round harvests. But most importantly, the greenhouses were heated. What do you think? With gas!" - whose greenhouses were the author hooked on, not by a miraculous or weaving incident? Maybe now beef and pork will rise in price?
  17. +8
    5 February 2019 08: 55
    In other regions there is no such lawlessness ... we, Russians are law-abiding, and the Caucasus respects power. Rude. Tough. I know about the army.
    1. +4
      5 February 2019 09: 24
      There is strength in the Caucasus.
      Only in whose hands is she? Who is she fused with?
      About this and the article. In the Slavic regions, the spread of clannishness is not characteristic. And the regions are more numerous in terms of population, which also complicates the life of clans.
      The article is nothing about law enforcement officers, how they tolerated these abominations. I think that to be honest there it is necessary to change the leadership among all law enforcement agencies.
  18. +6
    5 February 2019 09: 15
    Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.
    Well, taking into account the fact that recently in the news, they were talking about Miller's apartment in St. Petersburg at a cost of 1 billion, it was more likely not Gazprom that they decided, but somewhere in the Kremlin towers. Shevchenko said recently that it is not the people of the Caucasus that are concerned, but that it is simply easier to launder money through the top of the Caucasian republics. That is, the leadership of Gazprom may very well be in a share of all these frauds, therefore the story with Miller surfaced, simultaneously with the arrest of the Arashukovs. For Miller's apartment has been in his possession for a long time, but they started promoting it right now!
    1. -2
      5 February 2019 13: 10
      I purely ask: what is wrong with a billion-dollar St. Petersburg apartment? Is something not in line with the income statement? What is the problem? This is me, as a shareholder of Gazprom. I ask. Personally, I am satisfied with the current stock price and the size of past and projected dividends. But, as usual, I want more.
      1. +7
        5 February 2019 13: 18
        Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
        I purely ask: what is wrong with a billion-dollar St. Petersburg apartment? Is something not in line with the income statement? What is the problem? This is me, as a shareholder of Gazprom. I ask.

        Type more modestly it is necessary to be the management of a state corporation that sells national wealth. This is me as a person born in the USSR I answer. Especially in light of the increase in VAT, retirement age, rising fuel prices, etc., etc.
        1. -7
          5 February 2019 13: 42
          In addition to being the head of a large company, Miller is also not its smallest shareholder, receiving not the smallest cash income from dividends.
          And what about retirement age? VAT?
          Do you want in the USSR? Then why did you vote for Yeltsin / Putin? Why didn’t they protect the USSR with its lack of apartments of similar quality for individuals?
          You already decide: smart or beautiful ... sadness ...
          1. +4
            5 February 2019 14: 41
            Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
            In addition to being the head of a large company, Miller is also not its smallest shareholder, receiving not the smallest cash income from dividends.
            Miller receives over 2 million a day as head of a state corporation. I believe that his salary is overstated once every 10 minimum. He wants more, let him go to a private private business.
            Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
            Then why did you vote for Yeltsin / Putin?

            I did not vote for Yeltsin / Putin - never
            Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
            Why didn’t they protect the USSR with its lack of apartments of similar quality for individuals?
            I could not protect, because I was 9 years old at the time of its collapse.
            Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
            You already decide: smart or beautiful ... sadness ...

            Thickly troll ...
            1. -7
              5 February 2019 14: 51
              1. Does Miller get a lot? Go to the annual shareholders meeting and vote with your weighty block of shares against the salaries of managers / the Board and against Miller personally. The flag is in your hands!
              2. Did not vote for Yeltsin / Putin? So you are a minority in Russia.
              3. For infancy could not protect the USSR? And why did your parents not protect him? .. but I myself am guilty of this.
              4. Thick is not fat, but sometimes it is worth controlling your position regarding its adequacy and consistency. This applies to me, not only to you and the rest of the forum users. No offense!
              1. 0
                5 February 2019 20: 51
                [quote] [/ quote] and you are a nice person I hope Gazprom shares 25 years ago with your own mind and received a clear calculation? otherwise do not blame you just lucky .. whether with work, testators, etc.
                1. 0
                  6 February 2019 08: 28
                  I flew with my checks in LUKOIL, they brazenly robbed me there, now I have ONE LUKOIL share on the check.
                  There was still a span in another local joint-stock company.
                  Gazprom invested checks of children and parents. It was my decision and the direct will of the parents.
                  Lucky?
                  And why not?
                  My father was in his 80s when he ended up in cardiopulmonary resuscitation, and there were no stimulants in the region for either quota or cash. Heat + 38- + 40 (in part, and because of this, his cardiac catastrophe happened). You can only take a train to another region, but you cannot take it there under these conditions.
                  I went to the management of the hospital, and a somewhat dumb manager told me that they called from the cardiocenter and they found a stimulant for my father.
                  I told the leader: if someone should have been lucky, then why not my father?
                  Sorry, for the verbosity.
      2. +3
        6 February 2019 02: 04
        Nothing ... Are you satisfied with the shareholder that 10 years ago GAZP was worth 300, and Miller personally promised 500 by 2013, and today it costs 160 with dividends of 8 rubles, which is neither more nor less than 5% per share? You, frankly, an unpretentious investor ...
  19. BAI
    +8
    5 February 2019 09: 31
    In particular, only a few families run Gazprom enterprises.

    - open compromising.ru and wonder.
    True, there is one disadvantage. That pressure in the pipe. Pressure that does not allow just to cut the pipe and install the tie-in.

    No, of course there is equipment with which you can crash into an existing pipe. But it costs a lot of money and you need to buy it for currency.

    The equipment for tapping into a pipe under pressure is full, domestic, for rubles and prices are not crazy. Imported - just allows you to make a hole of a smaller diameter, so it’s more difficult to detect the insert using existing methods and equipment.
    By the way, why claims only to the Caucasus? Near Tula, a whole gypsy village was demolished precisely because of an illegal connection. It started because of gas, but it turned out that everything was illegal. And so - everywhere.
    1. +5
      5 February 2019 11: 21
      Quote: BAI
      Near Tula, a whole gypsy village was demolished

      These there were so insolent that they began to beat the gas men, who removed the insets. I wonder how our Budulai Palkin would comment on this.
  20. +8
    5 February 2019 09: 49
    Doesn't it seem that the situation is a little different, how many years it lasted, but now they began to put things in order. I think everything was a little different, yes, they made big money on this, very big ones and shared with Moscow, but at some point they stopped sharing. They themselves became rich, they entered power. An example of the governors, Sakhalin, Komi, the same thing, they just stopped sharing with the ROOF in Moscow, that's where I think my legs grow and where you first need to put things in order. Those who grab in Moscow, set an example in the regions, and in the regions, people and leaders also want to live, so it turns out that a teacher, doctor, controller and other workers of lower categories, seeing such a mess, want to live the same. So the circle is closed. The proverb does not lie: "the fish goes out from the head" and its environment goes out. That's where the core of this BARDAK lies,
    1. +4
      5 February 2019 10: 19
      The statement of fact ..... so it was ascertained for a long time, but things are still there.
      Again, the fish from the very beginning did not smell of roses, well, they almost chose it themselves or did not resist, they brought it so "fragrant" to us here.
      Now we have a lot of oh and oh, after the famous, recent events, it is especially loud! Only Vaska climbed into sour cream, do not indulge in the most and get it out of there, it costs a lot of joint work! One by one, he could not be smoked out of there, he ate too much, became fat, to unbearable sizes.
  21. +3
    5 February 2019 10: 12
    And yes, there is a suspicion that the uncertainty of Maduro’s position is forcing Gazprom to tighten the nuts at home. How many $ billion invested in the oil industry of Venezuela? According to some reports - one and a half. This is approximately 90-100 billion rubles. That is, the amount lost at home. But Gazprom caught it late, money could not be returned - neither there nor there. And if Gazprom is not a completely state-owned company, then where did the board of directors look? Or are we such worthless capitalists? Or stole it yourself? Did Putin wind their tails? It turns out that everyone knew everything, but they were silent, and now they throw a bone to us in the form of loud revelations. And now you think: what nastiness is being prepared for the consumer? And there is no doubt that she will be. The louder the exposure, the more muck.
    1. BAI
      +3
      5 February 2019 10: 34
      Rosneft invested 18 billion. It has nothing to do with Gazprom.
  22. +5
    5 February 2019 10: 37
    Apparently, the theft of gas in the Caucasus region has reached such proportions that Gazprom has decided to beat right on the heads. Regardless of the respectability and position of thieves.

    The feeder has run out, not enough for everyone. Milliards go into the pipe. They steal everywhere, but more in the Caucasus. How are utility bills paid there? Gas? Where is the money, Zin?
    In 2015, two deputies of the Dagestan People’s Assembly, the head of the republican branch of the Pension Fund Sagid Murtazaliev and the head of the fund’s department in Kizlyar and the Kizlyar district Omar Asadulaev, two defendants in criminal cases brought against top managers of the financial and industrial group, disappeared from criminal prosecution in Russia in the UAE. Summa (its owner is Ziyavudin Magomedov, a native of Dagestan), the head of the republican branch of the Russian Agricultural Bank, Gitinomagomed Gadzhimagomedov, and the manager of the Republican Compulsory Medical Insurance Fund (MHF) of Dagestan Magomed Suleymanov.
  23. +1
    5 February 2019 11: 17
    A and B sat, sit and are going to continue to sit on the pipe ... All this comes from the foundation of the Russian Federation. Why now is the only question. We will follow the development of events and try to recreate the whole grandiose picture.
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  25. -4
    5 February 2019 12: 26
    The task to the dumb-headed Arashukovs was set to be simple - to be the causative agent of protests. They got rid of them especially revealingly, the senators had to get nervous while they were sitting in the hall, the heart was beating. The management system is changing, we must start to behave differently, it is time to stop being sub-penguins, and it’s too late to go under the control of Putin.
  26. +1
    5 February 2019 12: 53
    Hello everybody. Question - Can the gas be "diluted" with another gas, and who controls its quality?
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 13: 15
      Specify which gas they are going to dilute, under what conditions, in what volumes, why ...
      Well, the simple answer is a simple answer: the gas can be easily diluted with another gas.
      And I suggest you personally control the result. But because of the philanthropy and due to the fact that he himself was once a safety engineer and responsible for the gas industry, I strongly do not recommend doing such gas experiments.
    2. BAI
      0
      5 February 2019 14: 31
      Just do not try to dilute hydrogen with oxygen in a ratio of 2 to 1.
  27. +1
    5 February 2019 13: 46
    The affair of the Federation Council and the affair of Gazprom is the cause of us all!
  28. +1
    5 February 2019 15: 48
    While the bandits in power in the thieves' system, nothing will change.
    1. 0
      5 February 2019 16: 54
      Honestly, I read your comments and I think you, excuse me, are already mentally weakened by age? Or "it was." Many people, even in old age, have not forgotten how to think. Your comments are like screams from a mental hospital, by God .. I remind you that the country is called the "Russian Federation" and we are discussing its policy in 2019.
  29. +5
    5 February 2019 16: 33
    The farther south in Russia, the more theft and nepotism. I arrived in the early 2000s in the Krasnodar Territory from the North of Russia. To say that I was dumbfounded by nepotism is to say nothing. Nothing could be done without the right people. And the most interesting thing is that all the syndicates were headed by the Yusufof clans, Rauli and others. Somehow, most of the key persons were completely with non-Russian names. And on the Russian land. My work in the past was connected with providing fuel and lubricants for large organizations and I knew this very well. The most impudent were these names in the "shoulder straps". For example "Spetsstroy" .. Well, WHO in the course remember .. Do you remember? Of course, we do not and cannot have a national question. And this is the only topic with a huge "Taboo", including on V.O. It is "unacceptable" to discuss the topic of teip of buildings of the most profitable businesses in the southern regions of Russia. Only now people are not blind and see and understand everything no worse than me or anyone else. They just can't do anything. And even talking and discussing this is impossible, including in V.O.
  30. +4
    5 February 2019 16: 44
    The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.
    Well, probably because those in the "gas" positions in these regions are not real horsemen! wassat
  31. +3
    5 February 2019 16: 48
    Only the rental approach to the extraction of resources is capable of changing the situation fundamentally. This is the basis of the industry the rest of the add-in. How old is Glazyev talking about this?
  32. +2
    5 February 2019 16: 59
    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
    You think in slogans from a zombie.
    What does Russia's "heritage" mean in your understanding?
    Who is the "master"?
    I?
    I’ve been a shareholder of Gazprom since privatization.
    Or you?
    Or not you?
    Who?!

    We look forward to hearing from you the questions you asked! wink
    1. 0
      7 February 2019 07: 24
      The drain is counted.
  33. +2
    5 February 2019 17: 16
    The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.

    With gas, it may not be observed.
    But rich people indulge with electricity in the European part of the Russian Federation!
    Sometimes it comes to the ridiculous - the head sends the inspectors to search for unauthorized connections and they find a street of new cottages! After the report, they receive the command to return to the base and "forget" about the street they saw. Until the right moment ...
    And the local gas workers, having confused the address, can easily cut off the house of a disabled grandmother in February (it's good that her daughter visited her and didn't let her freeze)! And then just say - "YES, WE JUST WRONG WITH THE ADDRESS. Why are you yelling so ..."
    Look at the stories about the gas economy in Dagestan - the REGIONAL pipeline runs through the PRIVATE territory built up with palaces and no one has ever checked it for insets!
  34. RL
    0
    5 February 2019 18: 05
    If you all go to the "elections", "choose" those who are then imprisoned, then this is your business.
  35. +1
    6 February 2019 03: 00
    The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.
    Maybe it's a matter of nationality living in these and those regions .....?
  36. 0
    6 February 2019 05: 12
    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
    You think in slogans from a zombie.
    What does Russia's "heritage" mean in your understanding?
    Who is the "master"?
    I?
    I’ve been a shareholder of Gazprom since privatization.
    Or you?
    Or not you?
    Who?!

    I do not turn on the box, so by. About the owner is obvious. When the Union was treated as a common, now everything has an owner. Surnames think as a shareholder know
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  37. +1
    6 February 2019 17: 02
    The medal also has a downside. How did Gazprom put up with such a loss of gas? Or who "stuck" at the very top. It is impossible not to notice such losses.
    1. Alf
      +1
      6 February 2019 17: 45
      Quote: AKS-U
      Or who "stuck" at the very top.

      It was evident that there was not enough for a "decent" life.

      And they didn’t begin to "enter" any more, so some departments had to strain. A common internal squabble.
  38. 0
    6 February 2019 20: 25
    Losses of Gazprom in 30 billion rubles? I began to doubt this figure. Like the tip of an iceberg.

    Valuable comment by the author, and fair.

    It remains only to generalize, from Gazprom upwards, and accordingly, multiply the losses by about 100.
    And to clarify, not losses, but acquisitions. Rather, someone loses, and someone picks up, as in a song.
  39. 0
    7 February 2019 00: 30
    Like the recent scandal in Chechnya when “we didn’t consume, we won’t pay”, but in reality? But in reality, it was just an attempt to deceive.
    Who knows, maybe Chechnya just refused to pay for the gas stolen by Arshukov. (Perhaps Arshukov was offered to share, but greed took up ... did not want to lose part, lost everything.)
    The most interesting thing is that in other regions (my Omsk, their Tyumen and Novosibirsk) for some reason, this mayhem is not observed.
    because
    Clan the system of organization of society contributes to the fact that families control entire industries.
  40. 0
    7 February 2019 00: 31
    Quote: Radikal
    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
    You think in slogans from a zombie.
    What does Russia's "heritage" mean in your understanding?
    Who is the "master"?
    I?
    I’ve been a shareholder of Gazprom since privatization.
    Or you?
    Or not you?
    Who?!

    We look forward to hearing from you the questions you asked! wink

    Signor Pomodoro received a request, and he took it and "merged" somewhere .... lol Homeland is waiting! wassat This does not paint Gazprom shareholders! tongue
    1. -2
      7 February 2019 07: 29
      I didn’t merge, but as you might have noticed, I wasn’t online.
      I hurt you so much that you went down to childish name-calling? You have pants with aids and you don’t know Shevchukovsky Ivan Pomidorov?
      You do not understand the direction of my comments against the local forum swamp?
    2. 0
      7 February 2019 07: 30
      By the way, you could write to me in PM if you really want to receive answers from me.
  41. 0
    7 February 2019 04: 58
    Captain evidence learns to type texts.
  42. -1
    7 February 2019 15: 57
    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
    I didn’t merge, but as you might have noticed, I wasn’t online.
    I hurt you so much that you went down to childish name-calling? You have pants with aids and you don’t know Shevchukovsky Ivan Pomidorov?
    You do not understand the direction of my comments against the local forum swamp?

    My dear, judging by your predilections, you yourself just got out of these "pants" - the "Pepsi" generation, and the victim of the Unified State Exam in one bottle! And it’s too late to hurt me - I’m already old enough. But you seem to have leaped lol , but you don't want to give the answers. And in general - is it worth to dirty your "stock" pants in our, as you put it, a swamp? For me, let's say it's obvious that you are from the category of characters who are increasingly becoming anti-heroes of the Web, well, what's the point of losing time with you? I think it will eventually put everything in its place, the other question is whether people like you will like it! lol hi
    1. -1
      8 February 2019 11: 34
      The bottom line is zero, but from now on I will not forgive you the name-calling.
      Quote from Russian Radio: wisdom comes with age, but for some, age comes alone.
      No offense! I myself am not young.
  43. 0
    8 February 2019 09: 45
    Well, turn them off the gas. Let firewood in Siberia be bought for cash.
  44. +1
    8 February 2019 12: 17
    Quote: Ivan__Pomidorov
    The bottom line is zero, but from now on I will not forgive you the name-calling.
    Quote from Russian Radio: wisdom comes with age, but for some, age comes alone.
    No offense! I myself am not young.

    Well, if you use quotes from ... Russian radio winked then what is there to talk about. lol Would you still have something from TNT channels, or STS are screwed here ...! tongue Thank you laugh. wassat
    1. -1
      8 February 2019 13: 02
      If you use emoticons, then I patstalom!
      Quits?
  45. 0
    8 February 2019 19: 20
    Quote: goose
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    if you had ever dealt with our judicial system, you would have understood that the Anglo-Saxon system is a salvation for Russia.

    Too much was given to the judges for interpretation. It has already been proven that on average women judges give sentences for robberies, murders, etc. serious crimes are 25-30% less than male judges, and vice versa, for crimes of a sexual nature they give almost 2 times more than male judges. In our court, when divorcing, it is almost impossible to get custody of the child by the husband, because almost 80% of judges are women.
    As a result, you can get a real term for a loaf of bread, and you can NOT SIT for billions. + Jury trials make a contribution.
    In fact, a caste justice system has developed that is very supportive of the rich and extremely repressive of the poor.


    in general, I agree with you about judges / women / men, well, and billionaires are not particularly imprisoned anywhere, in no small measure thanks to the help of good lawyers who can afford, and who is a "bun" of sperm slaves on the consciousness of "burdock", and "free "the lawyer goes to the same place .. and that's all .. forward to the bunks .. but there are no acquittals, since it is easier for a judge to conditionally give a year than to acquit an innocent, an acquittal is an emergency of a regional scale, who needs it, because the investigator / prosecutor wanted to put an innocent person, so he can also get money from the state now .. what for a judge .. and the Anglo-Saxon system, unlike ours .. requires the judge to understand the case from scratch, examine the evidence, etc., but we have an accusatory yes, 90 percent is already guilty, no one will check him for a "linden" I'm talking about this .. and the floor of the judge is already a "second" case
  46. 0
    8 February 2019 19: 29
    Quote: region58
    Quote: UMA-UMA
    In Russia, the share of acquittals is 0%

    So we have a Romano-German legal system. Cases without a sufficient evidence base do not reach the court; they are closed at earlier stages. In the Anglo-Saxon legal system, any case goes to court, and only then the investigation begins. I do not condone the judges - there are many claims, but the fact is the fact ...

    I only regretfully smile at such naivety .. you can immediately see the idealist .. this in no way offends you .. just blessed is who believes ..

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