Why is Russia still regretting the collapse of the Soviet Union?

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The share of residents of the Russian Federation, regretting the collapse of the Soviet Union

The other day "Levada Center" published the results of a sociological survey on the topic of the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 year. This survey was conducted by the center staff at the end of last year. Within its framework more than one and a half thousand Russians over eighteen years old were polled.



Why is Russia still regretting the collapse of the Soviet Union?


The result was the following: almost 70% of Russians regret the collapse of the USSR, and only a quarter of the respondents did not. In addition, 60% are convinced that the collapse of the Union could have been avoided. Moreover, if we analyze the results of such surveys, starting from the early nineties, the component of the Russians disappointed in the collapse of the country is constantly increasing. In addition to the main, interesting and additional results of the poll: the reasons for sadness about the past era of the USSR of its former citizens.

Half of the respondents regret the destruction of the single economic system. Slightly more 35% feel a loss of a sense of belonging to a superpower. Another third of respondents are experiencing due to increased mistrust and bitterness in society. A quarter of Russians are upset that after the collapse of the USSR, relations with friends and relatives were broken or completely cut off. And the other 25% lost their sense of home in every corner of a huge state. Another 13% complained that it became more difficult to travel and go on vacation.

Union of fraternal republics: it is important how and why, and not what

Arguing about why Russians are sad about the times of the Soviet Union, on the one hand, Japanese journalists from Asahi Shimbun speak about the desire of the people of the Russian Federation to revive the planned socialist economy. But, on the other hand, even for the Japanese, the fact is obvious that the collapse of the USSR led first of all to the fact that communication broke even not between individuals of a huge country, but between entire newly emerged states.

This is especially true of Russia and Ukraine, the fraternal bonds between which for centuries seemed unbreakable. Perhaps the economic system of the union of fraternal peoples was not the most optimal, but at the same time, the people of these republics loved each other, and trustful friendly relations were felt in everything between the nations.

Residents of Russia in the collapse of the USSR accuse Gorbachev

If the reasons for the sadness and sadness of the Russians about the Soviet era are more or less clear, then those whom they blame for destroying such a superpower, are not so obvious to Japanese experts. According to their estimates, there are two main contenders for the role of the “evil genius” of the USSR - this is indisputable Gorbachev and Yeltsin. But still, which of them played a more fatal role in the final loss of the super country?

The Japanese themselves tend to think that Gorbachev tried to save the Union to the last, but lost in the struggle for power to Yeltsin and his pro-American advisers. Whereas Russians still blame Gorbachev for all sins. It is clear that without the reforms of the latter, Russia would not have become what it is known in the world now. But Gorbachev’s actions were too radical and ill-conceived.

Moreover, from the point of view of ordinary Russians, Gorbachev was simply a traitor and led a policy on liberal-democratic patterns, deliberately ruining the Union to please the West. And the fact that Mikhail Sergeyevich received the Nobel Peace Prize for the death of the USSR convinces the Russians even more that the first and last president of the Union was a protege of the White House, undermining the country for money of all sorts of Rothschilds, Soros and Rockefellers.
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  1. +23
    3 February 2019 05: 45
    Yeah. The protege of Soros, Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Cthulhu. D_u_rakom was Gorbachev, and those who nominated him to the secretary general - p about donkam.
    1. +6
      3 February 2019 05: 48
      we ourselves destroyed the Union
      1. +27
        3 February 2019 07: 21
        Did you destroy the USSR? Or me? A thousand times not! Most of the population voted in a referendum against destruction, but there wasn’t a strong, imperious patriot who could arrest the trinity of * Belovezhsky * Judas! That's sad. This is primarily to blame for the allied leadership of that time !All!
        1. +7
          3 February 2019 08: 03
          Specifically, the chairman of the KGB. When M.S. found out what had happened, he started calling the KGB, but ALL PHONES were SILENT. The phone of that time is not the most reliable thing, but so that the phones in such a department are silent at the same time? Do not tell my footcloths!
          L. Shebarshin until the end of his life was sure that the chairman of the State Security Committee was to blame
          1. +5
            3 February 2019 08: 10
            It is possible that he was not to blame, but turned out to be MIXED! This draws more to the truth. Well, and, as I wrote earlier, they all pursued their own interests.
            1. +3
              4 February 2019 02: 19
              And to me, what’s up from this: my state, my childhood, down the drain?
        2. +14
          3 February 2019 08: 58
          Now easy to nod. -That's their fault! ... We are all guilty ... Took to the tales of sausage and happiness beyond the hill .. Com. the party is especially guilty! Millions of Communists were inactive like banderlogs before a boa constrictor .. They looked into the mouth of the Central Committee of the CPSU ..
          1. +1
            4 February 2019 02: 52
            The party agrees: when, in the conditions of the civil war, membership in the RCP (b) was guaranteed death, often like S. Lazo, the number was not the greatest, and in 1922 the number increased sharply. The party cleanly corrected the situation a little .. The main thing was to insert a clever quote "sniff" where necessary: ​​"Pay attention to Sidorov: he is learning a foreign language or something else", and 1941 thousands of tickets were burned .. As soon as the membership began to pay dividends, the number grew. In 1991, there were 23 million in the CPSU, and if you add candidates, the number will be awesome, how many communists are there now? And then I doubt that they are all ideological. Maybe in a party to become a deputy? And that EP is not "rizinovaya", but a deputy to live well
            1. +1
              8 February 2019 20: 27
              Yes, all of us then in a single impulse "rushed for sausage." And I personally found it. Only I lost my country. And then I voted FOR the preservation of the Union.
        3. -2
          3 February 2019 12: 13
          Myths are always told here! On the basis of these myths, new myths are invented and old myths are cited to justify their "correctness"!
          Quote: braids
          we ourselves destroyed the Union

          Quote: Phil77
          Did you destroy the USSR? Or me? A thousand times not! Most of the population voted in a referendum against destruction, but there wasn’t a strong, imperious patriot who could arrest the trinity of * Belovezhsky * Judas! That's sad. This is primarily to blame for the allied leadership of that time !All!

          Both are wrong! Rather right in part. We all destroyed the USSR, one can say so by the fact that no one came out to defend the USSR. There was nothing to defend. The beginning of the 90s was preceded by the 80s! What were they like? Well, remember ... The fact that the majority voted for is nothing more than another myth. Look at how the question was posed and you will understand that there was no talk of any USSR! "Renewed federation of equal sovereign republics" sorry what ?! I will answer you - another demagoguery, as well as what many here are trying to pass off as the will of the people for the preservation of the USSR! Each person understood this issue at the referendum in his own way. The liberals also answered for, taking into account "equality and sovereignty"! And one should not forget that for the first time since 1917 the authorities asked the citizens in which country they would like to live ?! "Delightful democracy and freedom for the people!" And finally, remember, or maybe someone does not know - by that time the draft treaty on the Union of Sovereign States was already ready ... Next. Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Moldova, Armenia and Georgia refused to hold the referendum at all! Forgot about it? They believed that they would live and live remarkably well without Russia proper. Then they did not even think that their standard of living was provided precisely at the expense of Russia, which together with the same donor Belarus lived in a "fraternal" alliance in general worse than all the others. And finally, it is necessary to remind about Kazakhstan and Ukraine, it is almost 48 million voters who brought their question to the vote. And in that and in the other case, it was said about sovereignty. Ukraine generally said that it would enter only on the basis of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine! To be completely fair, let's say that by the decision of the Council of People's Deputies of the RSFSR, the institution of presidency is being introduced! Well, what kind of USSR will they deign to talk about here? I'd like to ask demagogues to stop lying and not mislead people! The USSR actually ceased to exist before the signing of the Belovezhskaya Agreements and even it did not lead to some kind of mass riots or serious protests. And the party elite with local party nomenklatura enthusiastically began to share property ... Gorbachev and Yeltsin are not geniuses, villains who have taken the dark side! Don't blame these mediocrity. The only culprit in the catastrophe that led to the collapse of the country is the entire top and for the most part the middle link of the leaders of the CPSU!
          The collapse of the Union is not one normal person can not cause joy. The USSR had to be consistently and most importantly calmly reformed by eliminating the all-pervasive but completely unviable communist ideology. The inefficiency of which led to such a sad end to the USSR and hundreds of thousands of personal tragedies of Soviet citizens.
          1. 0
            9 February 2019 21: 10
            Quote: Cheslav Czursky
            The collapse of the Union is not one normal person can not cause joy. The USSR had to be consistently and most importantly calmly reformed by eliminating the all-pervasive but completely unviable communist ideology. The inefficiency of which led to such a sad end to the USSR and hundreds of thousands of personal tragedies of Soviet citizens.

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            You started well, but ended with the same myth, or rather a stamp. Stalin at the end of his life said: "Without theory, we will die." There was no development of the communist idea, instead of that the pedagogical system flourished, it is still flourishing. Ability to bring the right quote on the occasion. Instead, you need to develop a teaching about society. How it will change in an era of leaps and bounds in the development of productive forces. How to develop science and production without slipping into overconsumption. How to produce without polluting the planet. How to get away from bureaucracy in work so that the Soviet ministry does not function as a Western corporation and cannot be privatized overnight by cunning managers who dream of business trips abroad and further whet their appetites. You have to think about it. And how to get away from social dependency under socialism. And you about "inability". Any "inability" can be organized artificially, just like "vitality".
        4. +5
          4 February 2019 14: 48
          76,4% of the population supported the preservation of the USSR. All that was needed was an adjustment to the country's economic development. And having tremendous resources and capabilities, the collapse of the country could not be allowed. Traitors and Judas did this. The Bialowieza Accords are a crime of the 20th century.
        5. -2
          5 February 2019 15: 16
          And it's good that there was no such moron.
      2. +16
        3 February 2019 08: 36
        we ourselves destroyed the Union

        But most are afraid to admit it.
        I myself voted in a referendum for Yeltsin and the collapse of the union. It seemed to me more important then to throw off the central government, which impeded development. Well, the fraternal republics, they are still not going anywhere from us. .
        Youthful maximalism, but I’ll ask you to say stupidity. . .
        1. +11
          3 February 2019 09: 00
          For the truth, you plus * + *. For political maturity at that time, but ... * don’t judge, but you will not be judged *. The air, as it were * pseudo-freedom * played a very evil joke with the peoples of the USSR!
          1. -6
            4 February 2019 16: 07
            The air, as it were, * pseudo-freedom * played a very evil joke with the peoples of the USSR!

            What such a cruel joke?

            People with imperial consciousness regret the collapse of the USSR in Russia. They regret the collapse of the colonial empire and nothing more. They don’t care what fell apart communist USSR, they regret the collapse of the empire itself. That is, if the empire, without collapse, were degenerated into a democratic or dictatorial state, they would not spare now.

            And ask Ukrainians, Estonians, Uzbeks and other representatives of the Union republics, do they regret the collapse of the USSR? The answer is simple - do not regret it.

            Just like now, the Russians do not regret the collapse of the Golden Horde. And this is natural. Every nation deserves its sovereignty.
            1. +4
              4 February 2019 19: 48
              Quote: Tarkhan
              And ask Ukrainians, Estonians, Uzbeks and other representatives of the Union republics, do they regret the collapse of the USSR? The answer is simple - do not regret it.

              1. Do not wishful thinking. Regret, and very many.
              2. Do not judge everyone by yourself. If you personally were happy to bury the USSR, this does not mean that everyone else thinks so too.
              1. -5
                5 February 2019 15: 21
                And I advise you not to speak for everyone. I do not aspire to the USSR and not my acquaintances, and especially the youth (namely, they will continue to build states) all the more. They correctly said this idiotic imperialism that it seems that it gives something to an ordinary person .... only an increase in the tax burden.
        2. -8
          3 February 2019 10: 21
          Asian and Caucasian parasite states had to be thrown off.
          1. 0
            5 February 2019 19: 22
            And the Slavic population of these republics in the ghetto? Therefore, everything fell apart, that to each other we are nobody.
            1. 0
              6 February 2019 14: 35
              It is already there either carved or in the ghetto.
        3. 0
          6 February 2019 23: 01
          Thanks for the truth! It is a pity that I realized this late, like so many "for Yeltsin"
        4. +1
          7 February 2019 00: 10
          Quote: Nick_R
          I myself voted in a referendum for Yeltsin and the collapse of the union. It seemed to me more important then to throw off the central government, which impeded development.

          After the signing of the "Belovezhsky Agreement", Boris Yeltsin made first call to US President Bush. He read from the document only one article - number six

          The sixth article reveals the main goal of creating the CIS. This is the reduction of all nuclear disarmament under strict international control. This was the essence of what was happening

          For Americans, the collapse of the USSR was a Christmas present. On this holiday, Bush addressed his people: "These events are in our interests."
          /*** Why is this a separate story ***
          Later, on January 28, 1992, the American president concluded:
          America won the cold war
      3. 0
        3 February 2019 20: 17
        Quote: braids
        we ourselves destroyed the Union

        if we were able to destroy the country, then we could restore it ..
        No! not yourself.
    2. +26
      3 February 2019 06: 00
      I regret the collapse, with the collapse of the USSR, the WHOLE WORLD began to fall apart, everything fell to hell.
      1. -1
        3 February 2019 07: 22
        Stop regretting. We need to build a New Russia - a strong social state!
        1. +35
          3 February 2019 07: 36
          Under the current regime, the welfare state is after their last * reforms *? Well, it’s just sad.
        2. +13
          3 February 2019 08: 08
          Quote: Victor N
          Stop regretting. We need to build a New Russia - a strong social state!

          Social or socialist?

          If social, then it will not be close to life in the USSR.
          If it is socialist, then the ruling class must be the proletariat, as the most progressive of all classes.
          1. -6
            3 February 2019 08: 18
            Quote: McAr

            If it is socialist, then the ruling class must be the proletariat, as the most progressive of all classes.

            The shoemaker must stitch the boots and the ruling class from him like a bullet from .ovna. The theory of Marx and Engels from the 19th century needs a strong adjustment in the 21st century.
            1. +17
              3 February 2019 08: 25
              Quote: Semurg
              The shoemaker must stitch the boots and the ruling class from him like a bullet from .ovna. The theory of Marx and Engels from the 19th century needs a strong adjustment in the 21st century.

              Do you see the proletariat only capable of cleaning stalls?

              Among the class of proletarians, a long time ago, it was full of people capable of managing Russia many times better than the current bourgeois class.

              Quote: Semurg
              The theory of Marx and Engels from the 19th century needs a strong adjustment in the 21st century.

              Does this mean that only a certain class can edit?

              This "adjustment" is called a rollback to feudalism.
              Quote: Semurg
              bullet from .ovna.
              1. -5
                4 February 2019 00: 20
                Quote: McAr
                Among the class of proletarians, a long time ago, it was full of people capable of managing Russia many times better than the current bourgeois class.

                Do they know that Culture is a system of internal restrictions? and yet, they know how to develop the ability to self-esteem a person?
                Have you ever managed any kind of collective in the state structure?
                1. +4
                  4 February 2019 00: 34
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Do they know that Culture is a system of internal restrictions? and yet, they know how to develop the ability to self-esteem a person?

                  Who are they? I did not do a survey. Someone knows, but someone does not.

                  It would take several generations to build communism and educate a new person with a new identity, and there was only one thing - from the beginning of the thirties to the mid-fifties. Of which the entire quarter century went into preparation for war, war and reconstruction after the war.

                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  Have you ever managed any kind of collective in the state structure?

                  What is the difference between team management in a government structure and management of any other team?
                  Isn't it too early to share a bear's skin? The skin of a bear, a bear in the taiga, taiga beyond the Urals, and we will discuss how to manage a collective in a state with a proletarian ruling class ... It's time.
              2. -1
                4 February 2019 13: 50
                Quote: McAr
                Among the class of proletarians, a long time ago, it was full of people capable of managing Russia many times better than the current bourgeois class.

                Yes, yes. Especially here on the site there are many specialists, that no comment you can immediately see the ready head of state.
            2. +3
              3 February 2019 09: 04
              Not minus such a thought only from the principle, you are wrong!
              1. -4
                4 February 2019 00: 25
                Quote: Phil77
                Not minus such a thought only from the principle, you are wrong!

                he is right, if only because the revolutionaries, consisting entirely of Marxists, did not foresee the development of events after 1953. Where was their ingenious Marxist-Leninist insight? But all over the world the USSR was an example and had sympathy! Victory was behind and a bright future ahead !!!
            3. +16
              3 February 2019 09: 15
              That is, you think that the current ruling class rules just fine?
              You say they control a beam than a bullet of shit?
              However, the results of the board are not shitty look shitty.
              The board of pre-privatizers and effective managers somehow does not cause pride in the result.
              1. -4
                3 February 2019 13: 28
                That is, you think that the current ruling class rules just fine? 

                Dividing people into classes is their initially erroneous theory. I'm not talking about her immorality.
                Yesterday you plowed the land and were a peasant. Today you are standing at the machine and supposedly a proletarian. And tomorrow I became a party member and you sit in the district committee. So who are you now, proletarian? Not at all, you are as much a "freeloader producing nothing" as a capitalist. So what the hell is the power of the proletariat when the country is run by professional party members?
                To speak of the superiority of one class over another is all the same as the superiority of one nation over another, it is essentially fascism.
            4. +18
              3 February 2019 09: 23
              Yeah - and the non-current ruling class of the bourgeoisie shows, of course, simply transcendental abilities to manage ...
              1. -11
                3 February 2019 10: 05
                Quote: paul3390
                Yeah - and the non-current ruling class of the bourgeoisie shows, of course, simply transcendental abilities to manage ...

                The current managers, as well as those who ruined the USSR, are the representatives of the class of proletarians and peasants, there were no others in the USSR.
            5. +3
              3 February 2019 11: 01
              Quote: Semurg
              Quote: McAr

              If it is socialist, then the ruling class must be the proletariat, as the most progressive of all classes.

              The shoemaker must stitch the boots and the ruling class from him like a bullet from .ovna. The theory of Marx and Engels from the 19th century needs a strong adjustment in the 21st century.

              And from whom is a good ruling class? Probably now solid shoemakers are in power, because they rule as mrs.
            6. +7
              3 February 2019 12: 21
              Quote: Semurg
              The shoemaker must stitch the boots and the ruling class from him like a bullet from .ovna.
              The ruling class, without shoemakers, electricians and other hard workers, will drown in its own shit in a month, because it cannot reproduce anything viable from its environment. Their children are only capable of devouring what is inherited from their parents, but they are no longer able to work or think at the state level. The people are the source of everything, from the nail to the greatest scientists and leaders of the state. Stalin's father was a shoemaker.
            7. +1
              7 February 2019 00: 21
              Quote: Semurg
              The theory of Marx and Engels from the 19th century needs a strong adjustment in the 21st century.
              Reply

              Karl Marx defined the proletariat as an exploited class,
              estranged from the means of production

              forced to live only their labor
              The proletariat is called that social class.who earns livelihoods exclusively through the sale of his labor, and does not live off profits from any capital, - class, happiness and sorrow, life and death, whose entire existence depends on the demand for labor, ... on fluctuations of unrestrained competition

              C. Marx and F. Engels. Op., Vol. 4, p. 322

              In its classical form, the proletariat today does not exist at all - unless in the so-called gig economy (economics joint consumptionin which full-time workers are usually replaced by freelancers)
          2. +5
            3 February 2019 09: 02
            If this is not sarcasm, then do not say * caliber *! This gentleman despises the representatives of this class extremely!
            1. +7
              3 February 2019 09: 09
              Quote: Phil77
              If this is not sarcasm, then do not say * caliber *! This gentleman despises the representatives of this class extremely!

              I know. Already talked and made sure.

              There are people who despise their parents, and even those who despise the class that feeds them, puts them on, gives a roof over their heads, etc., such unfortunate analysts in the country as the foolish fool.
          3. -1
            3 February 2019 12: 05
            It is impossible, and it is not necessary to return to the USSR, having reproduced considerable shortcomings in the economy and socio-political structure.
            1. +6
              3 February 2019 12: 34
              Quote: Victor N
              It is impossible, and it is not necessary to return to the USSR, having reproduced considerable shortcomings in the economy and socio-political structure.

              So it goes without saying that the mistakes of the previous attempt must be taken into account.

              That is why there is a "debriefing" in any area and any activity. No one in their thoughts, I am sure, considers it necessary to repeat the mistakes of the past. For example, the class struggle will need to be waged constantly, and as socialism develops, it, the class struggle, will increase. Otherwise, Khrushchev declared that socialism had won and laid down their arms, while the reactionary elements, both internal and external, did not even think of an armistice. As a result, the USSR disappeared from the world map.
          4. +1
            3 February 2019 22: 05
            There is no proletariat in the form that we are used to talking about ... NO! Islands of disparate groups of people working together ..
            1. +6
              3 February 2019 22: 28
              Quote: 30 vis
              There is no proletariat in the form that we are used to talking about ... NO! Islands of disparate groups of people working together ..

              And now what? Cover yourself with a white sheet and crawl towards the cemetery?

              In total, the proletariat in the country is 27 million, which is more than in 1940, and a multiple more than in 1917. What is fragmented, not friendly, not in solidarity, etc. This is true. But the bourgeois class is trying its best to rally the proletariat — ask around and be surprised at the solidarity and unanimity regarding the latest retirement freaks. And this is just the beginning. Ahead of us are waiting for real miracles, against which chess with pensions will seem like cute fun. And as you know, the common misfortune is best rallied. So everything is still to come.
        3. -11
          3 February 2019 10: 44
          "Welfare state" - Is it only at your expense, we will distribute money to everyone and everyone, at no cost.
        4. +1
          3 February 2019 20: 18
          Quote: Victor N
          Stop regretting. We need to build a New Russia - a strong social state!

          Where is the leader? or a force capable of building something?
      2. 0
        5 February 2019 19: 08
        We live in a terrible time! Maybe the last time we drink! : D
    3. +5
      3 February 2019 06: 38
      The protege of Soros, Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Cthulhu.

      Yes, 1/10 of the oligarch. Your Fed Masters. Tagged is the personification of a critical mass of future individuals of the oligarchy of the Russian Federation and the Bantustan formed in Soviet society.
      1. -4
        3 February 2019 07: 14
        A virtual fighter with an oligarchy, your boss is sitting at your workplace, waiting for Monday, reading if there are brains, reports on US oil reserves and half-year reports by the Fed chairman on the goals of the organization’s monitoring policy in order to know whether to convert the proceeds into unsecured dollars or leave for now in rubles)). And Gorbachev is a young inexperienced doctor-crayfish from the Stavropol Territory, who, at a critical moment for the country, and who led the USSR to this alignment, was seated on the throne to disentangle what these bastards created. No more
        1. 0
          3 February 2019 07: 17
          podonk, who led the USSR to this alignment, seated on the throne so that he would disentangle what these bastards created

          Well, are you so bad about your partners from the Russian oligarchy?
          1. -3
            3 February 2019 07: 24
            I know only two Russian oligarchs, with whom I have not yet matured, in the first, which had nothing to do with the collapse of the USSR, and secondly)).
        2. +3
          3 February 2019 07: 26
          Quote: Krasnodar
          leading the USSR to such a situation, they seated on the throne so that he would disentangle what these bastards created.

          Yes? What then was the strict dwarf driving into his head about the inadmissibility of introducing the Oka into the contract? "I forgot."
          1. +3
            3 February 2019 07: 28
            That's all that remains of Oka.
          2. +5
            3 February 2019 08: 09
            Yes, there already didn’t care who drove him into it ... A narrow-minded person bathed in the rays of the "love" of the West, and those, in turn, were bullshit from him ..
            1. +1
              3 February 2019 08: 27
              Quote: Krasnodar
              and those, in turn, with him garbage ..

              That's it. This vile brother even planted Raisa in a psychiatric hospital.
        3. +4
          3 February 2019 08: 07
          Krasnodar, I have a lot of disagreements with you in my assessments, but now I AGREE YOU 100%
      2. +23
        3 February 2019 07: 20
        Why is Russia still regretting the collapse of the Soviet Union?

        Living in the USSR, the people had happiness and the opportunity to see some kind of perspective for their future. Ask people of the older generation (30-40 years of age) - they will tell you that they have always believed that children will live better (there were reasons for this). Ask the current generation - do they have some kind of perspective in their "ragged" life? Perhaps in the USSR, not everyone could earn a decent salary, but for this a person could only blame himself.
        In the country of the Soviets parasitism, sodomy, embezzlement and treachery were prosecuted ... But, after the NLC, these laws began to lose their force.
        Not in tagged business. No one without the support of the KGB could take a single step to the side. Therefore, the EBN coup d'etat did not take place on a whim, but only because of betrayal - an ordinary citizen can change little by himself. Examples of this darkness ...
        1. -1
          3 February 2019 09: 11
          Let's separate two things. The USSR as a state under the control of the Communist Party and the USSR as a follower of the Russian Empire.
          I almost feel nostalgic for communism, but I regret the collapse of the great state that our ancestors built for centuries. And I think there are many like me. It is from this that the number of those who regret the collapse of the USSR is growing.
          1. +3
            3 February 2019 14: 15
            Translated into reality, you, like ALL enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR, only for the worst for your country and people, compared to the Soviet one, for pre-revolutionary and / or post-Soviet. In general, this cowardice of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR is already tired. They seized the USSR, divided it among themselves, made the dismemberment of their country their main state holiday, imposed their power, their system, their economy, their ideology on the country and people, and for 27 years they cowardly tried to blame others for all this. By this alone they proved that they are not worthy, and are not able to own the country.
    4. -5
      3 February 2019 08: 31
      those who nominated him to the Secretary General - pododkum.

      Gorbachev is Andropov’s protege. Andropov is also an American spy?
      Stupidity is all this. The communist system collapsed for objective economic reasons. Any tightening of the nuts would only lead to the agony of the system.
      Another thing is that the dismantling of communism had to be carried out smoothly, without revolutions, so that the state would not collapse, as the Chinese, scientists did on our mistakes.
      1. +1
        3 February 2019 08: 39
        Bastards are not necessarily spies. They brought the country to an economic collapse and set up a chance to tackle everything
      2. +5
        3 February 2019 09: 12
        DO NOT contradict yourself, no one has abolished the Chinese Communist Party, the leadership of the country (as well as Vietnam) has had it as it is, the only thing that has changed its economic policy, its ideology has not been changed.
        1. -5
          3 February 2019 13: 35
          the only thing she changed was economic policy; her ideology was not changed.

          The CCP has actually betrayed its ideology with its economic policies. She's just lying to people. More precisely, she has thrust her ideology in one place and is keeping quiet, without interfering with the development of capitalism. And the communist elite, as in the USSR, leads the process of earning money by registering business with their relatives.
          1. +1
            3 February 2019 17: 17
            Quote: Nick_R
            The CCP has actually betrayed its ideology with its economic policies.

            You tell Lenin about the NEP. fool
            1. -1
              4 February 2019 16: 39
              Lenin was an extremely rational man and by 1919 already. I realized that communism is, as it were softer to say, prematurely. And so he proposed the NEP, i.e. a return to capitalism but while maintaining the dictatorship of his party.
              Moreover, the dictatorship of the Bolsheviks, like the dictatorship of the CCP, is no fundamentally different from any other dictatorship. Most dictators are sincerely convinced that they are doing everything for the good of the people.
      3. +2
        3 February 2019 19: 46
        Nick-R, the communist system did not fall apart for economic reasons. Devastation began in the minds. Institutions of Marxism-Leninism still existed in the country, but the people did not care about them. There was a system of political education in the country, but nobody cared about its information. I remember the circles of political enlightenment, even I had to conduct classes, but through them the information that the people needed was not heard and nobody cared. The KGB had a developed structure, they could not know what the mass consciousness of the people was, what problems the economy had and their causes ... but they did nothing. Preparations for the destruction of the state were already in the 70s. There were many good business executives in the country, but there were also mediocre leaders, moreover, from the top they spread rot under the insignificant pretexts of effective leaders and defended the bad ones: he ruined one, transferred to another, there was unsinkability of the mediocre, which resulted in serious problems in the economy. I don’t believe that they didn’t understand, but rather they ruined the economy on purpose. There was a deficit, but first of all, rumors were stirring up rumors, and rumors were allowed to spread, obviously it was necessary for someone. And when the collapse began, they slipped entertainment television to the people so that they would not be indignant. And before, it was impossible for people to watch TV shows instead of gathering indignant crowds at the stores? The processing of mass consciousness began a long time ago, but in the 80s people were tuned to indignation, and since the 90s people have been entertained, slip on false ideals, all so that the people believe that everything is fine in the country.
        It is a lie that the socialist economy is not viable, only the socialist economy is capable of developing, while under the capitalist one, no situation can be resolved taking into account all interested parties, only the financial interests of the owners of capital are taken into account and capitalism will never allow anything else, because its essence is concentration capital of the scanty part of society due to the violation of the vital interests of the vast majority of the population.
      4. +2
        3 February 2019 20: 23
        Quote: Nick_R
        Stupidity is all this. The communist system collapsed for objective economic reasons.

        Ideologically, it was falling apart. There was such an anecdote in 1987. I heard: an announcement in the kiosk "Soyuzpechat" - There is no truth, Russia was sold, there was labor for 3 kopecks.
        Hollywood defeated our dogmatic propaganda department.
      5. -2
        4 February 2019 11: 54
        Quote: Nick_R
        Gorbachev is Andropov’s protege. Andropov is also an American spy?

        Andropov was the only person in the late USSR who came and put things in order. The rest were weak-willed. Since the beginning of the 70s, the Soviet power flirted with the leaderships of the national republics, corrupting them with handouts at the expense of the RSFSR. As a result, they got stronger financially in 20 years, gained strength, and established contacts. It is necessary to recall the high-profile cases of the Uzbek guilds of the late USSR, as a result of which the national "elites" became agitated, and all began to demand independence in unison so as not to fall under the distribution.
        1. -1
          4 February 2019 16: 27
          Andropov is the only person in the late USSR who came and put things in order.

          I agree. And I directed it by tightening the nuts. And apparently realizing that the method did not work, he began to promote young party workers of the "new thinking", including Gorbachev.
          Examine the issue, while Chernenko chose Gorbachev’s candidacy, too, was considered, but the conservatives pushed up at that time.
    5. +4
      3 February 2019 10: 14
      Krasnodar
      D_u_rakom was Gorbachev, and those who nominated him to the secretary general - p about donkum.

      Your estimates need to be swapped. This is Gorbachev a scoundrel, am and those who chose him are fools. fool This Gorbachev taxied everyone to Foros. It goes without saying that Gorbachev was also d_u_rak. fool An intelligent person would not have such idiocy. crying
      1. 0
        7 February 2019 11: 45
        Quote: populist
        A smart person wouldn’t have such idiocy

        Do you need to say that since Brezhnev’s decisions it was not the Secretary General who made the decision, but the entire Politburo, together with the candidates?
        1. 0
          7 February 2019 12: 44
          goose (Mlada Husa)
          Do you need to say that since Brezhnev’s decisions it was not the Secretary General who made the decision, but the entire Politburo, together with the candidates?

          You also write that the spirit of friendship, partnership and mutual assistance reigned in the Politburo ... lol How decisions were made in the Politburo is a separate issue, but no one spoke out against the Secretary General. They steered everything (of course, with the main questions) Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev and others up to a certain point. hi
    6. -2
      3 February 2019 23: 25
      This is a very big difference - a country for the people and a country for the capitalists. If there were no country for the people, then there would be no President Putin.
  2. +4
    3 February 2019 05: 52
    "Levada Center". In 2016, the organization was awarded the status of a “foreign agent”.
    1. +11
      3 February 2019 06: 18
      And this foreign agent constantly keeps his hand on the pulse. Just how are these polls conducted? Of course not. Reformatting results are being checked. They hoped that today the attitude towards the Union is negative. Still would! So much slop was poured! And then such a bummer after polls! The Union is broken, but citizens stubbornly hold the defense and do not want to surrender the USSR! Already the president against socialism, as he said, is a way to a dead end! And the people are still for the Union!
      1. +16
        3 February 2019 06: 26
        Quote: Mister Creed
        And the people are still for the Union!

        1. +11
          3 February 2019 06: 30
          Diesel fuel 6 kopecks, gasoline 20 kopecks, a loaf of bread 14,16,24 kopecks, a package of milk 14 kopecks.
          1. +4
            3 February 2019 06: 39
            Quote: Mister Creed
            bag of milk 14 cents.

            I recalled the wall newspaper:
            "Mom gave me a piglet,
            What would he buy a pie
            Vasya played a shake,
            I lost the whole coin ... wink
            1. +3
              3 February 2019 22: 17
              For a ruble at lunchtime, they bought five pies with liver (excellent pies !!) 4 kopecks a piece = 20 kopecks. , a pack of cigarettes "golden anchor" -Kishinevskie -40 kopecks. ... and a glass of beer 22 kopecks .. still enough for travel ... to work and home ... Before the army ... How good it is to be young !!! drinks
          2. +12
            3 February 2019 06: 45
            Education-FREE! Medicine-FREE! And another very good. there’s a lot of good. There is something to SORRY !!! May Judas be betrayed, betraying the USSR forever!
          3. -7
            3 February 2019 07: 27
            It is better for consumers not to return to the USSR: gasoline is cheap, but you won’t find it.
            1. +2
              3 February 2019 13: 02
              Quote: Victor N
              It is better for consumers not to return to the USSR: gasoline is cheap, but you won’t find it.

              There was gasoline - fill up. Diesel fuel was poured into the field - there was nowhere to go!
              1. +1
                3 February 2019 13: 40
                Diesel fuel was poured into the field - there was nowhere to go!

                And do you think this is good?
                Poured out, because if you do not use, then the limits for the next year will be cut. This is such an "efficient" work of the socialist system. And many more nonsense. This is why the economy collapsed, followed by the country.
                1. +1
                  5 February 2019 19: 10
                  Fairly noticed. Well said.
                  It is a pity that the majority will not reach. It’s inherent to idealize the past
            2. +3
              3 February 2019 22: 19
              Quote: Victor N
              It is better for consumers not to return to the USSR: gasoline is cheap, but you won’t find it.
              Anyone drove a bottle of shmurdyak filled a private tank with a private tank!
          4. -3
            3 February 2019 07: 30
            Quote: Mister Creed
            Diesel fuel 6 kopecks, gasoline 20 kopecks

            but gasoline on coupons ..
            or expensive or scarce.
            1. +7
              3 February 2019 07: 35
              Quote: Maki Avellievich
              but gasoline on coupons ..
              or expensive or scarce.

              Yes? I remember how a neighbor poured a penny into another neighbor's bucket.
              1. +5
                3 February 2019 08: 45
                So they stole who can carry away everything, everything around the people, everything around me.
                It was very prestigious to work at bases, shops, and meat processing plants. They didn’t get much, but every day they left with stolen meat or had access to a deficit
                1. 0
                  3 February 2019 08: 48
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  They didn’t get much, but every day they left with stolen meat or had access to a deficit

                  And now they are stealing. At our chemical plant, camcorders everywhere hooted.
                  1. +2
                    3 February 2019 13: 15
                    They steal now. But you yourself noted the difference. When there is a master, he fights against theft, sets up the same cameras. And when everything is popular. . . Well, they will write a feuilleton in the press, tell how they planted it, but they steal it anyway. System.
                    1. +1
                      3 February 2019 13: 18
                      Quote: Nick_R
                      When there is a master, he fights against theft, sets up the same cameras.

                      Do not make me laugh. I have a brother-bourgeois. Also set up a camera. Only it did not help. The house was burned by damned competitors. sad
                      1. +1
                        3 February 2019 13: 46
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Nick_R
                        When there is a master, he fights against theft, sets up the same cameras.

                        Do not make me laugh. I have a brother-bourgeois. Also set up a camera. Only it did not help. The house was burned by damned competitors. sad

                        And what do you want, capitalism, competition, the one who has more base animal instincts survives.
                        You have to be quicker and burn faster at the "damned competitors".
                        Nothing personal - just business.
                      2. +1
                        3 February 2019 13: 55
                        Quote: MKPU-115
                        What do you want, capitalism

                        This one suggested that my brother buy a company for a penny. Brother sent him. And he received the answer in the form of napalm.
                      3. +1
                        3 February 2019 15: 51
                        Something your brother overlooked in the surrounding realities. The offer to sell the business for a spear should be followed by an identification of the opponent. If the opponent is not close to government agencies, then the answer should be as fast as possible, rigid and asymmetric.
                      4. +2
                        3 February 2019 15: 55
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Something your brother did not look at in the surrounding realities.

                        I took a look. He is not the last spoke in the wheel of a millionaire city.
                      5. +2
                        3 February 2019 16: 17
                        Apparently so, Vladimir. However, if someone wants to cut my business, it will have the above consequences. And I will have an equal share of how it will end, whether I will lie down in the ground or go to the "cover" ... I have devoted too much effort and years to this work to share its fruits with freeloaders.
                      6. 0
                        3 February 2019 18: 42
                        As for the red rooster, yes. Either the shop will light up, then the warehouse, then the house, then the parking lot, then the car. Well watched the video. Yes, there was an arson. But the camera’s resolution did not allow to recognize the villain’s face! Our parking lots are systematically burning. Obviously, the owners do not follow the serviceability of their car. Gasoline probably often flows out and closes the wiring? Those shops probably have wiring without insulation and there is no start-up protective equipment. Or there are few cameras, you need to put it through every meter. Life has become like on the set of a movie.
                  2. 0
                    3 February 2019 18: 27
                    And in garage cooperatives what are they stealing? And the cameras are standing! What do they steal in schools? For shooting films about arrows like Kerch?
                2. +6
                  3 February 2019 09: 18
                  Nick R, what you are talking about has always taken place in the Union, but flourished magnificently during the time of Brezhnev. This was a deliberate dismantling of communist morality - deliberate! The advanced working class in large factories and factories was turned into so-called "thugs". The red director carried out corruption schemes, and the workers saw it. And so that they would not blather too much, they were allowed, of course, without speaking about it aloud, to drag any unimportant little things out of production. And even finished products. Newspapers about this were filled with angry articles, but to no avail - they were quickly shut up. And the working class eventually shut up too. Just a few years, and nothing was left of morality. Everyone began to steal everything, to drag everything that was bad.
                3. +2
                  3 February 2019 13: 43
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  So they stole who can carry away everything, everything around the people, everything around me.
                  It was very prestigious to work at bases, shops, and meat processing plants. They didn’t get much, but every day they left with stolen meat or had access to a deficit

                  Yeah, now the circle of thieves has narrowed to 1%, not only that, now 99% fell into the role of robbed and robbed.
                4. +1
                  3 February 2019 18: 24
                  It was a small business. Everyone considered himself a talented businessman. There was no tax. They did not pay taxes other than compulsory work for the state. They thought it would be so under capitalism, only better. Broke off.
                  1. +4
                    3 February 2019 20: 39
                    Quote: Mister Creed
                    Everyone considered himself a talented businessman. There was no tax.

                    and also the era of the first cooperatives - when it was bought at a fixed state and sold at a bargain price. In addition, many goods, semi-finished products went abroad at the same prices. Nobody knows about this simply because the press was then under tight control. Therefore, wild warps and deficits arose.
                5. 0
                  7 February 2019 11: 49
                  Quote: Nick_R
                  So they stole who can carry away everything, everything around the people, everything around me.
                  It was very prestigious to work at bases, shops, and meat processing plants.

                  The decomposition of the apparatus, the only function of which was control, led to the loss of control over the processes in the economy. The Soviet court fought only with criminality. OBKHSS received too few powers, even despite the efforts of Andropov.
            2. +4
              3 February 2019 11: 42
              For many writers of the USSR, this is 85-91 years ....
              What are the coupons for benz. ???
              1. +2
                3 February 2019 13: 04
                Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                For many writers of the USSR, this is 85-91 years ....
                What are the coupons for benz. ???

                All right, talons. Coupons for gasoline were sold, for example, in a hardware store.
                1. +2
                  3 February 2019 15: 49
                  What year?
                  Until July 1, 1979 gasoline cost 8 kopecks., Bread 14 kopecks (1 kg), gas / water with syrup 3 kopecks. (0,200) liters ...
                  1. -1
                    3 February 2019 16: 27
                    Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                    What year?


                    It was so. Gasoline 92 for 20 kopecks. and for accounting, exclude cash at a gas station, introduced- refuel for coupons that can be bought almost at a grocery store. But there were no problems.
                    They started somewhere from 1988 and until 1991 they really forget when salaries were raised to a thousand (1990-1991) gasoline continued to cost 40k (93) and 30 (76), but then it could not be found.
                    1. +4
                      3 February 2019 16: 48
                      I’m talking about that, that the USSR is not only the 85-91 years ...
                      Since childhood, I was very interested in fishing .... when we went to Vilya, it was easier and faster to return to Minsk via Vilnus, that is, drink coffee, buy Lithuanian black bread and smoked lard home (whoever knows what I'm talking about)
                      1. 0
                        3 February 2019 18: 27
                        Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                        I’m talking about that, that the USSR is not only the 85-91 years ...
                        Since childhood, I was very interested in fishing .... when we went to Vilya, it was easier and faster to return to Minsk via Vilnus, that is, drink coffee, buy Lithuanian black bread and smoked lard home (whoever knows what I'm talking about)

                        In 93, he disassembled ZIL. So here. There was a full tank of gasoline, on 180 liters. Yes
                  2. +2
                    3 February 2019 18: 32
                    Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                    gas / water with syrup 3 cop. (0,200) liters ...

                    And Tarhun 12 was worth a penny. We ran to the bakery, they got a little fucked up there. The man poured a bucket of kvass, and set it in front of the horse. sad
                    1. +2
                      3 February 2019 19: 24
                      When I served in the SA, we went to the girls at the bakery ... We met a noble bucket of cognac punch and a bucket of condensed milk and rolls with hot heat, and the girls were lush and hot ... Eh, where are my 19 years old ???
                      1. +2
                        3 February 2019 20: 40
                        Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                        Oh, where are my xnumx years ???

                        Maybe on the Big Carriage?
                      2. 0
                        3 February 2019 21: 09
                        Lifortovo, General Directorate of the Commandant of the city of Moscow ...
                      3. +1
                        3 February 2019 21: 17
                        Quote: VeteranVSSSR
                        Lifortovo

                        Oh, damn it ... I'll disappear slowly ... belay
            3. 0
              3 February 2019 13: 03
              Gas shortage was when on the Black Sea during harvesting.
            4. +1
              3 February 2019 18: 18
              Well then do not lie. Coupons were at the enterprise. Private traders refueled for cash. There was no shortage. I refueled freely.
          5. -2
            3 February 2019 08: 32
            Quote: Mr Credo
            Diesel fuel 6 kopecks, gasoline 20 kopecks, a loaf of bread 14,16,24 kopecks, a package of milk 14 kopecks.

            Bread cost 20 kopecks per ruble 5 loaves of 150 rubles 750 loaves. Now 1 loaf 60 tenge salary 60000 for a salary of 1000 loaves of bread. Gasoline 20 kopecks for a salary of 750 liters, now gasoline 150 tenge for a salary of 400 liters. The collapse of the USSR brought both pros and cons, and each and every one of them individually has its own debit / credit of the pros and cons. hi
          6. +6
            3 February 2019 12: 42
            Quote: Mr Credo
            Diesel fuel 6 kopecks, gasoline 20 kopecks, a loaf of bread 14,16,24 kopecks, a package of milk 14 kopecks.

            They lived normally. At least where I lived, I did not see people digging in garbage cans
            1. -4
              4 February 2019 10: 08
              Unfortunately, it’s bad.
            2. 0
              7 February 2019 11: 57
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              They lived normally. At least where I lived, I did not see people digging in garbage cans

              Because the state did what it guaranteed. Free education, medicine and an apartment - this was not an empty phrase. As well as pioneer camps, sports sections, kindergartens, etc.
              Guaranteed prices for food (and those that are now called "Organic") and work made it possible not to fall on the level of beggars. Because everyone worked, then the operation that one person is now doing was done by three, which made it possible to learn, do better, and not depend on sick leave, and also, what is important, not overwork, leaving time for self-development and innovation.
              Now, such expenses account for 150% of the average salary of a worker, if you are lucky to find a job.
        2. 0
          3 February 2019 08: 43
          Gas for 35 cents? When converted to the average salary, this is the current 45 rubles. SO WHAT?
          Learn to count, don't dishonor the Soviet education system
          1. 0
            3 February 2019 13: 08
            Based on the materials "Reference book of a motorist" (B.E. Borovsky, M.D. Popov, M.Ya. Pronshtein, Lenizdat, 1973)

            In the early 70's, prices rose slightly (except for the 76th gasoline). For example, 10l AI-93 began to cost 1 rub. Then, twice (in the 78th and 81st), prices rose exactly twice, and in this form existed until the collapse of the USSR in December 91st. That is, 10 liters of 76th cost 3 rubles, and 93th - 4. In the 70s and until the mid-80s, problems with the availability of AI-93 gasoline were mainly on resort routes in high season, or in remote rural areas. 72nd and 76th were almost always present

            That something like this.

            Has it become more expensive today. We will calculate the average salary in 1985. It amounted to 174 rubles. We count for A92 gasoline. We get - 435 liters.

            We take the average salary in 2009. 19200 92 rub. Divide the cost of gasoline A23 at 834 rubles per liter We get XNUMX liters.
            1. +1
              6 February 2019 23: 49
              Quote: Town Hall
              Calculate the average salary in 1985

              199,20 p

              Quote: Town Hall
              Divide by the price of gasoline A92 23

              slightly less

              but by and large you are right. Yes


              /+

              thought
          2. 0
            3 February 2019 13: 14
            Quote: Nick_R
            Gas for 35 cents? When converted to the average salary, this is the current 45 rubles. SO WHAT?
            Learn to count, don't dishonor the Soviet education system

            My father had a three-ruble note in 1976, he remade it by 72 (he added water to the carburetor through the nozzle in the first chamber). In the hardware store they bought coupons for 72 gasoline 35 kopecks - 10 liters !!! The price for 1 liter of AI-76 gasoline in 1976 was 3,5 kopecks. I remember that very well! In 1977, they raised the price to 70 kopecks. for 10 liters, and then it went off ....
            1. +2
              3 February 2019 13: 23
              The price for 1 liter of AI-76 gasoline in 1976 was 3,5 kopecks
              .



              Do not tell stories ...




              Retail prices for gasoline entered into force on January 1, 1969. Given in rubles per 10 liters, they are the same throughout the USSR, except for the remote regions of Siberia, which are slightly more expensive there.
              Price list No. 083, approved on November 29, 1968 under No. 882 by the State Price Committee under the USSR State Planning Committee.

              Gasoline brand ..... GOST, TU ........... Price
              А-66..............ГОСТ 2084-67......0-60
              А-72..............ГОСТ 2084-67......0-70
              А-76..............ГОСТ 2084-67......0-75
              АИ-93.............ГОСТ 2084-67......0-95
              АИ-98.............ГОСТ 2084-67......1-05
              Shale ......... RTU ESSR 268-63 ... 0-60
              Extra ............ VTU NP 67-60 ...... 1—00
              Авиационный Б-70..ГОСТ 1012-54......1-20
              Топливная смесь...ВТУ 30-8-63.......0-80
              1. +2
                3 February 2019 13: 41
                Yeah, SHCHAZZ !!! These coupons could be generally thanks or at half price laughing
                let’s shoot the gasoline at the outboard motor or at the jail ...
                Solarium for fuel was not considered at all ...
              2. +1
                3 February 2019 16: 36
                Quote: Town Hall
                Retail prices for gasoline entered into force on January 1, 1969.


                Correctly. but!

                Where, then. already in the seventies they raised prices - an AI-93 liter cost 20 kopecks (10 l-2 rubles), and in the mid-80s generally -40 kopecks.
          3. +1
            3 February 2019 13: 21
            Quote: Nick_R
            Gas for 35 cents? When converted to the average salary, this is the current 45 rubles. SO WHAT?
            Learn to count, don't dishonor the Soviet education system

            In terms of the current salary, it is 45 kopecks a liter.
        3. BAI
          +8
          3 February 2019 09: 32
          And my "Penny" saw a liter for 9,5 kopecks.
          1. +1
            3 February 2019 16: 40
            I have 2103 in 1979. but already for 20 kopecks. Did not have time fellow
      2. 0
        3 February 2019 20: 35
        Quote: Mister Creed
        And this foreign agent constantly keeps his hand on the pulse. Just how are these polls conducted? Of course not. Reformatting results are being checked.

        They have another task - to formalize discontent in the mass consciousness. Discontent always gives rise to a desire for change, and adventurers always come into politics on the desire for change. The desire for change is precisely the unstable position of society when a small push is enough to push society into the abyss of war or perestroika.
  3. +17
    3 February 2019 05: 56
    One question that interests me is why in the USSR where almost all atheists were there, there were no homeless people, prostitutes, beggars and hungry people, and now when God is even on the lips of the president, when there are more schools being built in religious buildings, there are so many beggars, homeless people, prostitutes and hungry ? Maybe it's not in religion and god?
    1. +13
      3 February 2019 06: 17
      Because under each Commandment, there was an article of the Criminal Code both at school and in everyday life was asked for immoral behavior. And God in us, said the grandmother, the kingdom of heaven to her!
    2. 0
      3 February 2019 06: 53
      And who from Moscow was expelled on the eve of the 80 Olympiad?
      1. +4
        3 February 2019 07: 02
        But whoever needs it was moved temporarily! laughing
      2. +6
        3 February 2019 07: 15
        Quote: serviceman.
        And who from Moscow was expelled on the eve of the 80 Olympiad?

        All bad people. Shchelokov gathered all the thieves in the hall of the Palace of Culture, and said: "There will be at least one theft, I will jail you all."
    3. +11
      3 February 2019 07: 56
      why in the USSR where almost all atheists were, there were no homeless people, prostitutes, beggars and hungry, and now when God is even on the lips of the president, - Pessimist22 (Igor)

      The answer is simple.
      Because then there was socialism - a state for the people, when they thought about people, their needs, divided the state income for all citizens through public consumption funds, from which they financed housing for people, free health care and education, pension and social insurance, subsidies for general goods demand, etc., etc. A society where the dominant was the public ownership of the means of production, and where the power belonged to the people, where the dominant was the improvement of the life of the whole people.
      And now capitalism is a society of robbers and robbers, due to the robbery of the absolute majority - the enrichment of a narrow circle of the bourgeoisie, where this bourgeoisie has power, which it uses only in its own interests, they do not care about the needs of the people.
    4. 0
      3 February 2019 08: 50
      Here’s one question that interests me: why in the USSR where almost all atheists were, there were no homeless people, prostitutes, the pauper and the hungry

      In order:
      Sorry and tutki were.
      There were no homeless people. Since there was an article on parasitism. If you don’t work yourself, the zone will help you.
      There were no beggars and hungry, because the state guaranteed employment. And you could be a parasite, stupidly do nothing at work, and get paid.
    5. +9
      3 February 2019 09: 25
      Pessimist 22. I completely agree with you. In the USSR, there were not so many churches and such a population of priests. The church was really separated from the state and did not bear responsibility for the policy and actions of the state. There was a state ideology, which preached goodness, honesty, hard work, love and self-sacrifice to the Motherland, real patriotism (and not the current-leavened one). Now the ideology of violence, consumerism, indifference and cynicism is being imposed on TV. Watch the morning program on federal channels. To the cries of "good morning" and sickening optimism, the news ticker: killed; found dead, children burned down, died in an accident, froze to death, a murderer was convicted, etc.
    6. +5
      3 February 2019 10: 54
      There were definitely fallen women. I live in the port city. Their locations are the local meme that came back from the Soviet era. Mom said that they caught the shrimp and brought it to the canteen, forced them to clean the potatoes, wash the dishes, etc. But there were few such women, a meager compared to the modern number.
    7. +3
      3 February 2019 13: 26
      Quote: Pessimist22
      One question that interests me is why in the USSR where almost all atheists were there, there were no homeless people, prostitutes, beggars and hungry people, and now when God is even on the lips of the president, when there are more schools being built in religious buildings, there are so many beggars, homeless people, prostitutes and hungry ? Maybe it's not in religion and god?

      There was socialism, now capitalism.
      "on the lips of the president, when" is a screen to control, rob, oppress, steal, etc. Didn't you know? winked
  4. +3
    3 February 2019 06: 02
    One of the leaflets:
    “Comrades generals and officers!

    Read and draw conclusions.

    From the transcript of the meeting of judges of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation at which the legality of the decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 1400 (September 21 of September 1993 of the year) was discussed:

    A. L. Kononov: “Of course, there are doubtful moments.”

    B. I. Oleinik: “I agree with the assessment that the decree does not comply with the current Constitution, neither one of the provisions, nor the Law on the President, nor the corresponding section of the Constitution on the President, his powers.”

    T. G. Morshchakova: “If we begin to evaluate this decree from a purely legal point of view, we will certainly find a lot of reasons for recognizing it as totally unconstitutional.”

    Yu. D. Rudkin: “I believe that the decree is entirely unconstitutional.”

    B. S. Ebzeev: “... The Supreme Council of the Russian Federation played a significant role in shaping this situation. But at the same time, I proceed from the fact that the President of the Russian Federation has played in this not less, if not more, role. ”

    V. D. Zorkin: “The constitutional system has been changed, in fact, albeit temporary, the direct presidential rule, if we speak in the constitutional language, has simply carried out a coup d'etat ...”

    N. V. Seleznev: “In my opinion, the decree does not comply with the Constitution.”

    “The powers of the President of the Russian Federation cannot be used to change the national-state structure of the Russian Federation, to dissolve or suspend the activities of any legally elected bodies of state power, otherwise they will cease immediately.”

    Article 121 (6) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation "...
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  6. +9
    3 February 2019 06: 46
    No matter how much they lied about the Union, it was a country for the people. The results of Putin's reign oligarchs and homeless people. And a total lie!
  7. +6
    3 February 2019 06: 46
    The people of the country regret that they lost the USSR. Here, China has preserved this structure and structure. The result is the strongest country in the world.
    Do you know why people regret the loss of the USSR? Russia's GDP in 2018 is equal to that of South Korea. Here is the result of the work of the labeled and the drunk, as well as the young reformers. There is no prospect for youth, etc.
    1. 0
      3 February 2019 08: 41
      Quote: midshipman
      The people of the country regret that they lost the USSR. Here, China has preserved this structure and structure. The result is the strongest country in the world.
      .

      In China, little is left of socialism, except for the CCP as the ruling party. China's explosive economic growth is a symbiosis of capitalism and the competent leadership of China under Deng Xiao Ping and his followers.
    2. +2
      3 February 2019 08: 55
      Here, China has preserved this structure and

      What system has China preserved, capitalist? China abandoned communism long ago, but unlike us, it did it smoothly. And at the last plenum, he finally moved on to the traditional Eastern authoritarian territory under the leadership of "the wisest and most astute."
  8. +10
    3 February 2019 06: 50
    Why does youth want to live under the USSR.? I will not write about the mistakes made by the achievements of the former state. Young people know that the Soviet state gave the majority guarantees of immunity
    housing, free training, free medicine, lack of unemployment, free movement around the country. Low utility bills. But along with unemployment there was a duty to work. After
    a citizen, if he didn’t have a child, paid a tax for childlessness. Now they’re talking in the West
    about the "epidemic of loneliness." This disease is promoted by social stratification. So it turns out that we
    not threatened. But in the first place in the USSR was labor, and the lack of propaganda for militarization.
  9. +7
    3 February 2019 07: 05
    I was young there and then
    1. +4
      3 February 2019 07: 43
      You know, we have this in common! hi
      1. -2
        3 February 2019 13: 45
        Hence the nostalgia for the USSR. This is a time of youth.
        1. 0
          3 February 2019 14: 26
          Well, yes, according to this delusional anti-Soviet myth, it turns out that all the supporters of the USSR were young until 1985, and when the "Liberator" of the opponents of the USSR, Gorbachev, seized power and muddied Perestroika to destroy the USSR, everyone immediately grew old.
    2. +4
      3 February 2019 08: 07
      What are you all about Gorbachev! The decomposition of the USSR began much earlier! Khrushchev made many mistakes, but at that time there were still many great fragments of being that lacked only connective tissue of the same properties, so that the fragments welded into something that could not be destroyed. We all knew the names of our great contemporaries - physicists, mathematicians, chemists. Poets and writers assembled stadiums as they are now collecting plywood ... And Space! And the rapid development of industry! ... And this is a constant feeling of a holiday of spirit! .. Unity with like-minded people. And everyone criticized Khrushchev, not realizing that as a person of the Stalin era, he still somehow supported - maybe, and without even wanting it - the spirit of the country's greatness. And then he was removed, and Brezhnev became. You won’t believe it, but the next day, the spirit of the rookie broke out and began to poison the space. These so-called years of prosperous stagnation became the era of the dying of the USSR. Gorbachev only completed what Brezhnev had begun.
      1. +5
        3 February 2019 09: 23
        But about the era of Leonid Brezhnev, I disagree categorically! In his reign, the USSR just reached the peak of development.
  10. +10
    3 February 2019 07: 54
    Vaska listens, but eats.
    I'm talking about our power, headed by YOURSELF. They live on another planet, their children are provided for, educated and accommodated. They are not nostalgic for the USSR. Question: why Putin became the president for the fourth time? (in the Constitution they put it in the wrong place) Why do people think that the current economic course is anti-popular and still voted for it? The previous three times Putin took office, has anything changed dramatically for the better for the PEOPLE? ABSOLUTELY NO. The same faces, candidates occupy different positions. A sort of general machine operators. Yes, new promises. We heard 2020 million workers by 25. places? One year left. And then there are dates. 2035 year. Our GDP is like Moses. He will lead the people from date to date, from breakthrough to breakthrough, until those who remembered the USSR die. Listen to Grudinin on YouTube "red line". Smart guy, he says smart things. Not a lawyer, not a Chekist, not a huckster (pumped / pumped / sold / money offshore). Old Man is the former chairman of the collective farm. Belarus, without oil and gas deposits, how it lives, everything works. And we have ?
    1. +1
      3 February 2019 10: 34
      Before, Moses was one for all. He drove, drove and took out ......... Now in each hut there is a Moses and Vanya Susanins help them. These celestials are sitting on the mountain, watching the barefoot children around the mountain sing an asana in a circle and exclaim joyfully: "And we are so happy that you are happy ...... you are terribly!"
    2. -4
      3 February 2019 10: 52
      It is impossible to create 25 million high-tech jobs - without 25 million highly skilled unemployed.
      1. -1
        3 February 2019 11: 33
        Is there such a task: "Create 25 million high-tech jobs"?
        Whether there are these 25 million high-tech jobs or not, this will not affect gas sales in any way, but you can buy yourself something with the money that will drip from it. It would be better if these 25 million weren't ... "If there is a person - there is a problem, if there is a person - there is no problem" - Let them say thanks that: (la-la-la, further down the list ....), and so everything for them ...
        In the morning I smear a sandwich -
        Immediately thought: what about the people?
        And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
        And compote does not pour into your mouth!
        1. +1
          3 February 2019 19: 39
          Eka zaminusili ......... NanoTolik told you the same, a kind of hello from the chetlan patsaks laughing :
          “Society, as I understand it, is deeply infantile, it generally did not consider it necessary to even say for a quarter century "Thank you" to domestic business once for everything that the business has done in the country. "
          And then he added the following: “It was business that built this country. He restored the finally destroyed factories and production, he returned the salary to people, he filled the budget with money. He created sources so that our intelligentsia would receive funds to support culture, science and education. All this is Russian business. The entire economy of the country was made by those whom society calls oligarchs So that all the advantages of NanoTolikam
          1. 0
            4 February 2019 15: 34
            Out of hatred for Chubais, I am ready to confirm: yes, the factories have restored and continue to manage them, in their free time from their main work, janitors, movers and cooks! Is that clear?
            Thinking is good!
            1. 0
              4 February 2019 19: 33
              Quote: Victor N
              in their free time, wipers, movers and cooks! Is that clear?

              In their free time from their main job, many people received education (not even bad at all), the very ones: janitors, movers and cooks, about whom you are so squeamish, through your lip ..... and became engineers, teachers and doctors. They rebuilt the country after the war and launched new plants and manufactures.
              It was not the janitors, movers and cooks who started a war with their own people and the collapse of the country to redistribute property new celestialswho have restored something there and are now managing. Vorie will be here telling me where he came from .....
              Quote: Victor N
              ready to confirm

              Jehovah's Witnesses are ready to confirm the appearance of Christ to the people ,,,, There were also witnesses of the appearance of NanoToli to the people, they are also ready to confirm ........ Somewhere out there, someone ......
              We do not need ......
              Is it clear ?
  11. +2
    3 February 2019 08: 28
    Kanesh people regret - there was confidence in the future, but now who has this confidence? even the oligarchs do not have it ...
  12. +7
    3 February 2019 08: 32
    Why: “the component of regret about the disintegration of the country of Russians is constantly growing,” which is surprising. Every year we are not getting any younger, health is deteriorating, and the quality of modern medicine is "envied" ..
    The Soviet Union had one huge advantage: STABILITY and CONFIDENCE in the future. We were all sure that bread and milk in a nearby store would be at the same price, and that dip could be bought from "thugs" remember a scene from the movie: "Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession"?
  13. 0
    3 February 2019 08: 49
    Quote: braids
    we ourselves destroyed the Union

    I didn’t ruin ... maybe you?
  14. +6
    3 February 2019 08: 55
    Gorbachev's guilt is obvious !! He is the president, he was responsible for the situation in the country, he was the guarantor of the USSR constitution. After all, when you look at the period from 1988-1991, it seems as if no one even tried to save the country. And of course, the big ambitions of the leaders in the field.
    1. 0
      3 February 2019 14: 34
      And those who excuse Gorbachev from responsibility for the destruction of the USSR, they also excuse Nicholas II from responsibility for political repression, executions, mass deportations, famine in the country, the involvement of millions of Russian citizens in the war and death in the war, and they also exclude Putin from responsibility for everything bad in Russia in his leadership of it. And they cowardly throw themselves away from responsibility for the results of their highly paid work after the capture of the USSR / Russia.
      This is the mentality of the enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR.
      But on the other hand, they make the highest demands to the Soviet communists and their supporters, and they owed everything to them, and what they justify with Nicholas II, they with their hypocritical "righteous anger" expose for the crimes of Soviet communists.
  15. +8
    3 February 2019 09: 16
    Quote: Victor N
    It is better for consumers not to return to the USSR: gasoline is cheap, but you won’t find it.

    You did not live in the USSR, but in Perestroika when a deficit of everything was deliberately created everywhere and everywhere in order to discredit the people.
    1. +3
      3 February 2019 09: 34
      Suppose there were different periods in the USSR! and gasoline had to get from the machine operators!
      But there was a fish in the Volga!
      The boom objectively relates to its country, its history! I voted for the USSR, with such an opinion and remain .... for many reasons.
  16. 0
    3 February 2019 09: 19
    The idea was turned into a dogma, and from here the country collapsed ... Because. dogma must be followed before those who promote ... But its development was not proposed ....
    1. +1
      3 February 2019 09: 35
      Quote: parusnik
      The idea was turned into a dogma, and from here the country collapsed ... Because. dogma must be followed before those who promote ...

      Do you think that there are no dogmas in the church? laughing

      Quote: parusnik
      And its development was not proposed ....

      And consciously.

      "... Moreover, I think it is necessary to discard some other concepts taken from" Capital "by Marx, where Marx analyzed capitalism, and artificially glued to our socialist relations. I mean, by the way, such concepts, as "necessary" and "surplus" labor, "necessary" and "surplus" product, "necessary" and "surplus" labor time ...

      ... I think that our economists must put an end to this discrepancy between the old concepts and the new state of affairs in our socialist country, replacing the old concepts with new ones, corresponding to the new situation. We could tolerate this discrepancy until a certain time, but now the time has come when we must finally eliminate this discrepancy ... "JV Stalin:" Economic problems of socialism in the USSR "1952.

      But the Trotskyists seized power this was unnecessary. As regards Marxism, how not to twist it - capitalism comes out.
  17. BAI
    +4
    3 February 2019 09: 24
    Why is Russia still regretting the collapse of the Soviet Union?

    Because it is youth. The best years of life. Then - dreams and hopes. And now - their downfall.
    1. +3
      3 February 2019 09: 39
      Quote: BAI
      Because it is youth. The best years of life. Then - dreams and hopes. And now - their downfall.

      Not for that. Under Stalin, the country developed. This is what we regret. Everything else is an adjective.
      1. BAI
        +3
        3 February 2019 10: 55
        Which of those present (except Midshipman) lived under Stalin? How many people living under Stalin participated in the survey? How can you regret that you don’t know personally?
        This is especially true of monarchists.
        1. 0
          3 February 2019 11: 14
          Quote: BAI
          How can you regret that you don’t know personally?

          This is called a dream.
  18. +2
    3 February 2019 09: 30
    Of course I want to know how it all happened! This is useful, Schaub does not step on the same rake ..... only apparently, we have a lot of rakes ahead, many have already gone and NOTHING! Most did not .... be careful, stomping on.
    I don’t see anything bright ahead, in the foreseeable future at least .... we will continue to stubbornly walk along the rake that many have already passed and determined that it was they!
    By the way, having passed or stepped over the rake, the majority, on the basis of bitter or positive experience, are DEVELOPING, DIEING UP !!!!! can we PORA ???
  19. +5
    3 February 2019 09: 34
    Yes, there is regret, by and large they ruined a very serious social system, but the biggest regret about the people who led the USSR to decline, with the fall of the country, buried the possibility of social peace, the idea ... but there is no prophet in their own country, they sold the birthright for a bowl of lentil soup ...., the Bible, although a strange book, but the plots of life.
  20. -1
    3 February 2019 10: 35
    About "brotherly love" for centuries, this is a test!
    I remember very well how it looked ....
  21. -3
    3 February 2019 10: 44
    The internationalist principle itself, which laid the foundation of the USSR, doomed it to inevitable decay.
    1. 0
      3 February 2019 11: 54
      I almost didn’t understand you. The internationalist principle, is it, forgive me generously, what is it? I know the international, but what is not above. Tell me, please!
      1. -3
        3 February 2019 11: 58
        Internationalists in the USSR dominated only in some brief periods. On the whole, the leadership pursued an internationalist policy, that is, in the interests of all but the Russians.
        1. 0
          3 February 2019 12: 05
          The fact that the RSFSR was the sponsor of all the border republics cannot be argued with, but does such a concept seem to be somehow an internationalist principle? Doubts are overwhelming!
          1. -1
            3 February 2019 12: 37
            The separation of the Russian people, the creation of tribalist formations, the propaganda of Russophobia, the complete destruction of Russian national statehood and the adoption of measures to prevent its restoration in the future, the consequent destruction of all carriers of Russian culture, the economic exploitation of Russian territories - so think about whether this is a description of the policies of German Nazis or Soviet Bolsheviks.
            1. 0
              3 February 2019 17: 44
              Do you think sometimes before you write something? Before the Bolsheviks, there was no Russian people at all that could be "divided", and there were only Great Russians, Little Russians, Belorussians.
              And all the further listed applies specifically to YOU, the enemies of the Bolshevik-Communists. You took away from all peoples on the territory of the USSR, including Russians, both Soviet and pre-revolutionary history and culture, destroyed the BEST State for the country and the people - the USSR, in comparison with pre-revolutionary Russia, and your degraded in EVERYTHING, starting with morality and ethics, impoverished in comparison with the Soviet period, dying out because of the genocide of peoples arranged by YOU, your "independence". That is why all of you are cowardly "and we have nothing to do with all this, that you recognize this as your crimes, and as ALWAYS, want to cowardly to blame others for your crimes.
              1. -1
                3 February 2019 18: 44
                Just think about why the USSR did not give world culture absolutely nothing, did not give a single well-known image. The armchair "Russia" has been at the common table for three centuries, and the USSR cannot even enter the house.
                1. 0
                  3 February 2019 18: 56
                  HA, well, here again the enemies of the USSR are all according to Freud. I wrote two times -USSR in comparison with pre-revolutionary Russia and your "independence". And you, like ALL enemies of the USSR, are well aware that you are NOT capable of proving that pre-revolutionary Russia and / or your "independence" is better for your country and people than the USSR, and ALL of you equally rush to malice against the USSR. And I don't need to talk about "culture". For you, enemies of the USSR, for the whole 30 years after you captured the republics of the USSR, your culture did not appear, you took Soviet culture away from your people, and if you take anything from pre-revolutionary culture, then to spoil it.
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2019 19: 25
                    The superiority of Russian culture is objective. It is enough to look at what the Western audience prefers. You can easily find in the list of Western films "War and Peace", "Anna Karenina" or "The Cherry Orchard", but not "The Defeat" or "How the Steel Was Tempered" - Russian culture is immortal and firmly took its place on Olympus, while rock paintings of the peoples of the Third of the world are not interesting and understandable to anyone, except for the citizens of North Korea.
                    It is possible to identify the Russian Federation with Russia to the same extent as Turkey and Byzantium.
    2. +1
      3 February 2019 14: 37
      Well, yes, the separatists TWICE destroyed the country, they were eager to destroy Bandera, like a "hero" of the Ukrainian enemies of the USSR, and the internationalists are to blame.
      1. 0
        3 February 2019 15: 23
        Who proclaimed "self-determination up to secession"? Who set the goal of bringing the Russians "to complete dullness, to idiocy, to an animal state? Tsar? Liberals? Bourgeois?"
        1. -1
          3 February 2019 17: 07
          WHAT, cowardly, are you afraid to admit that it is YOU, the enemies of the Bolshevik Communists, both during the Civil War unleashed by you along with the interventionists, and after your capture of the USSR, divided your country into your anti-Soviet countries and republics?
          1. 0
            3 February 2019 18: 01
            Firstly, I can quite calmly admit the obvious fact of the four-year armed struggle of the Russian people against Bolshevism and separatism, which does not in the least cast a shadow on the Russian nation, but, on the contrary, is an indisputable confirmation of the falsity and illogicality of the myths about the alleged "pathological inclination of Russians to Bolshevism "and" communist ideology as a Russian national idea. " Secondly, your statement about the collapse of the Soviet system is completely unfounded - just look at the biographies of the top leaders of the Russian Federation and other states that were formed after the collapse of the USSR: one served in the KGB, the second held the post of such and such a secretary, almost all members of the CPSU / Komsomol since 19 * * up to 1991, etc. Moreover, the position of the official authorities of the Russian Federation is unambiguously that
            The Russian Federation is the successor of the USSR only

            (response of the Government of the Russian Federation to the draft law "On the repatriation of Russians and representatives of other indigenous peoples of Russia" to Russia, 2004), therefore, apply the concepts of "counter-revolution", "restoration" and "overthrow of the Soviet / Bolshevik government" in relation to the events of the early 90s biennium incorrect.
            1. -1
              3 February 2019 18: 41
              From the very beginning, FALSE. The Russian people, like ALL peoples on the territory of the USSR, all these 100 years are divided into OUR, Soviet and YOUR, anti-Soviet, if the Soviet people CREATED a better state both in development and for the Russian people, in comparison with the pre-revolutionary Russia and YOUR anti-Soviet-Russophobic "independence", then your, anti-Soviet people, both under Soviet power and after your capture of the USSR, only unleashed wars, destroyed, destroyed, killed, robbed your country and people, parasitized at the expense of the Soviet people, became malignant , lied, hypocritically, slanderously accused the Soviet people of crimes, blamed them both for your crimes, and for the crimes of your accomplices, the invaders of Russia and the USSR, the invaders and Nazis, to whom you ran in millions to grovel. ...
  22. +1
    3 February 2019 10: 46
    Hatred is a form of gratitude.
    We hated the flaws of socialism so much that we allowed it to be destroyed.
    But is a person reasonable, in principle?
  23. +1
    3 February 2019 10: 48
    MSG is by no means the main destructive force, but its throwing and nonsense "!!!
  24. +1
    3 February 2019 10: 51
    The Japanese themselves are inclined to think that Gorbachev tried to save the Union to the last, but lost in the struggle for power to Yeltsin and his pro-American advisers.

    The then mayor of Moscow, Gavriil Popov: "It was becoming clearer and clearer that everything would depend on the role of Gorbachev himself: the coup would be either with his blessing, or under the flag of his lack of information, or with his disagreement, or even against him."
    The draft Union Treaty prepared by the Gorbachev secretariat referred to the community of independent states. This, contrary to the results of the referendum, abolished, but did not preserve, the USSR. It was this task - to finish off the Country of Soviets and faced the real organizers of the coup, which were Boris Yeltsin and Mikhail Gorbachev, and not the Kremlin elders, who headed the State Emergency Committee in August 1991.
    They clearly understood that an attempt to go against the results of a national referendum would end for them in complete failure at the autumn congress of deputies of the CPSU. To prevent this, it was decided to urgently liquidate the party itself. There were no official reasons for outlawing the Communist Party of the USSR. A good reason was needed in the form of large-scale provocation.
    On June 20, Jack Matlock, the US ambassador to Moscow, informed Gorby's friend about a possible conspiracy against him. Then US Secretary of State James Baker named the USSR Foreign Minister Alexander Immortals the names of the conspirators - Prime Minister of the USSR Valentin Pavlov, Secretary of Defense Dmitry Yazov and others. But Gorbachev did not even initiate an investigation. What for? After all, all these were his people, who thought that they were fighting with him against Yeltsin.
    The list of members of the State Emergency Committee was compiled personally by Gorbachev, this was told to me more than once, by the geckachepists themselves, says writer Alexander Prokhanov.
  25. +3
    3 February 2019 12: 50
    History has no subjunctive mood. What is the use of finding out who was a traitor and who is to blame for the collapse of the USSR. In 1917 there was exactly the same story. Traitors and fools are also to blame for the collapse of the Empire. With great difficulty, at the cost of numerous losses, mistakes, an unprecedented state was nevertheless created. And how did it end? Again betrayal and tyranny. I don’t know how to link freedom of thought and strict observance of laws, which allows everyone to live as he wants, without disturbing others. But I know that ultimately it all depends on the will of one person or several people who care not only about themselves and their clans. And what is happening with us today. Who teaches at leading institutions of the country, such as the Higher School of Economics or MGIMO. What their leading leaders write in their articles. Just read, one hundred in our country, all wrong and wrong. But in the West, everything is fine, but we are savages and do not understand anything. And who is studying in them? And children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of those who destroyed both the Empire and the USSR study in them. And their task is the same - to learn how to get more money, once again to hang noodles on the ears of the bulk of the population of our country and quickly slip away over the hill. And what did high school and ordinary institutes turn into, which allowed our science to be in many ways ahead of the rest. How did it happen that many talented young scientists are forced to leave the country in order to implement their ideas and feed their families. Why is there still in the Duma, in the Senate, a huge number of crooks of all stripes, or simply mentally ill people? I think that we ourselves are to blame. Because we constantly keep on promises and promises of campaign speeches. We believe in all sorts of articles on the internet, where there has long been a war against our country. Where 90% of all articles are well-disguised lies. No matter what, I believe that someday in our country there will still be a person who can open this vicious circle and make our country great, and make people happy.
  26. -1
    3 February 2019 13: 44
    Now you can whom you want to blame for the collapse of the USSR, even yourself, but there are specific culprits — these are members of the Politburo and the Central Committee of the CPSU — they determined both foreign and domestic policies, they were engaged in the selection and training of cadres. How could Gorbachev, Kravchuk, Yeltsin and the like be in the Central Committee of the CPSU? Why was their anti-people activity of the KGB of the USSR, headed by Kryuchkov, not stopped in time? The USSR is sorry as a huge country, uniting the fraternal republics, but the dictatorship of the CPSU and betrayal led to the collapse of this amazing state.
    1. 0
      3 February 2019 14: 43
      YES, there are specific culprits and dismemberment of the USSR, and the destruction of socialism, the power of the CPSU. As well as the transformation of all former republics of the USSR - into beggars, backward, dying out "independence". These are ALL those who, since the end of the 80s, have been raging against the Soviet communists, praising those who were against the communists, and against whom the communists were, justifying the crimes of external and internal enemies of the communists, those who are all the millions of criminals who have gone through the GULAG in 30 years casually declared "innocent victims."
      1. -1
        3 February 2019 15: 45
        Irina! If you have noticed, then I do not blame the Soviet Communists who believed in their leadership for the collapse of the USSR, I blame the members of the Politburo and the CPSU Central Committee for this, because I was also a member of the CPSU and these party leaders who were in power betrayed me. I consider them traitors and I’m not going to step on the same rake twice, under the name of the Communist Party, so all this talk about public property, about a social state, that everything should belong to the people - for me it's an empty ring, I lived in this time and clearly imagine what belonged to whom. I regret about the USSR, but not about the CPSU.
        1. -1
          3 February 2019 17: 05
          Stupid and irrational. It is as if, due to the betrayal of General Vlasov, it is necessary to hate all the Communists.
        2. 0
          4 February 2019 15: 54
          step on the same rake, called the Communist Party is not going to

          The Communist Party is not the Communist Party, the Communist Party is generally some kind of joke over the people ...
          The USSR without the CPSU is impossible in principle, and the question is not the name, the social elevators in the CPSU were quite normal, better than now in United Russia.
          In general, what I liked in the USSR - there was one party, it is in any case better than 10,20, etc.
  27. +3
    3 February 2019 13: 49
    "Why does Russia still regret the collapse of the Soviet Union?"
    Yes, because Russia over the years has turned from a social state into a suicidal one.
    1. 0
      3 February 2019 14: 45
      The enemies of the USSR on the territory of the USSR are a "funeral team". They quickly destroyed the USSR, and for 27 years they have been destroying the republics of the USSR and their peoples that they had captured. Therefore, all of them cowardly "have nothing to do with it" that they understand that they are criminals.
      1. -2
        3 February 2019 16: 34
        The people got what they wanted - freedom, now everyone has their own way.
  28. 0
    4 February 2019 07: 02
    In vain you are so, according to the law, the union is still alive:
  29. 0
    4 February 2019 13: 22
    Quote: McAr
    Among the class of proletarians, a long time ago, it was full of people capable of managing Russia many times better than the current bourgeois class.

    Again the proletarians ???
    And where is the role of the triaries? Why is the role of the heavy Roman infantry not reflected?
    There are no mythical proletarians in the sense of what was meant by this word in the days of Adam Smith and Karl Marx.
    And during the late Soviet Union was not. Or let the gentlemen, faithful Marxists explain to me: how was this combined in the USSR — the proletarian, who did not own the means of production, persistently in all dogmas was called the sole legitimate owner of factories, ships, minerals, forests, fields, rivers? Was he deceived? He was not the master? Perhaps, yes ... I participated in the distribution of income through the most complicated distribution schemes, but what’s directly the owner - no. But why did we then make a revolution?
    And those who distributed are also proletarians? In Soviet times - very respected people! The store manager, commodity expert, "skeet chief" ... Regional committee-city committee-trade union ...
    A huge layer of the so-called intelligentsia, common people - doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, employees of any research institutes of design organizations - a very responsive environment for all sorts of Manilovism "500 days" and the like ...
    And the proletarians, in the sense of hired industrial workers, are temporary, like students, pregnant, sick, or even sitting ... today it is, and tomorrow it is not. And this is with respect to the same person.
    The most tragedy is that whom exactly from whom exactly should the people and the army have to defend (united!) ???
    Gorbachev from the Emergency Committee? So this GKChP is completely his own creativity and idea ... Grobachev from Yeltsin? Sorry - I'm passing, and Gorbachev was not ready to defend according to his convictions, his stupidity and betrayal were already obvious to me ...
    So whom and from whom, how could we all, those who sprinkle ashes on our heads to save the Union?
    PS At the elections of the first president, I voted for General Albert Makashov, and I still think that this one could still turn all this stuffing back. But for the majority in the country, this "Derzhimorda" and "totalitarian" was unacceptable. Why did you get these labels? And for the fact that when to his group of troops (I don't remember Hungary or Czechoslovakia) the velvet democrats who won there began to invent environmental damage in dollars, he simply by his decision suspended the withdrawal of Soviet troops from this state, approved at the highest levels ... he immediately got the labels of "fascist" and "Pinochet" from the world and our press.
    1. +1
      10 February 2019 08: 16
      Quote: faterdom
      Again the proletarians ???
      And where is the role of the triaries? Why is the role of the heavy Roman infantry not reflected?
      There are no mythical proletarians in the sense of what was meant by this word in the days of Adam Smith and Karl Marx.
      And during the late Soviet Union was not.

      I see no reason for fun.

      The proletariat in the Russian Federation is 27 million, which is more than in 1940 and a multiple more than in 1917.

      Quote: faterdom
      Or let the gentlemen, faithful Marxists explain to me: how was this combined in the USSR — the proletarian, who did not own the means of production, persistently in all dogmas was called the sole legitimate owner of factories, ships, minerals, forests, fields, rivers? Was he deceived? He was not the master? Perhaps, yes ... I participated in the distribution of income through the most complicated distribution schemes, but what’s directly the owner - no.

      You confuse public property with personal property.

      Man, every man in the USSR, was the owner of forests, fields, rivers, factories, and everything else, whatever you list, on the basis of common property. And it is right. It is impossible that there was “what I want, I’m tossing and turning” in relation to public resources, whether it is mineral resources, land or street, road. So not even in many capitalist countries.

      Quote: faterdom
      But why did we then make a revolution?

      To build a society where there is no exploitation of man by man.

      Who is a thief? A scoundrel, a deserving criminal. But theft of a thief is an episode, and very rare. And who is a capitalist, especially a large one? This is a thief who constantly, systematically, daily steals surplus value from the exploited. If a person who steals sometimes, occasionally, is isolated by society, then what needs to be done with someone who steals in a 24 by 7 mode?

      Quote: faterdom
      And those who distributed are also proletarians? In Soviet times - very respected people! The store manager, commodity expert, "skeet chief" ... Regional committee-city committee-trade union ...

      If there were violations in the distribution, then these are violators of the law.

      OBHSS dealt with them as far as possible and possible. In China, they shoot for corruption. Nevertheless, corrupt officials do not disappear.

      Quote: faterdom
      And the proletarians, in the sense of hired industrial workers, are temporary, like students, pregnant, sick, or even sitting ... today it is, and tomorrow it is not. And this is with respect to the same person.

      And what does it change or cancel in the classification of people according to their position in production?

      Quote: faterdom
      So whom and from whom, how could we all, those who sprinkle ashes on our heads to save the Union?

      Whom? All.
      From whom? From the bourgeoisie.
      How? Long talk. Next time.
  30. +1
    4 February 2019 15: 42
    But still, which of them played a more fatal role in the final loss of the super-country?

    The fatal role was played specifically by Gorbachev. Yeltsin simply took what was "badly lying" ...
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      5 February 2019 19: 07
      an amazing combination: now the humpback is being cursed and doused, and monuments and centers are being opened. Just because he ... didn't fall apart. he took what (C) was lying badly. It turns out that we were all badly "lying"; our parents, relatives, friends, acquaintances and millions of those who (C) did not fit into the laws of the market.
      Both two are corrupt Judas!
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 12: 02
        a terrific combination: now the humpback is cursed and wrapped, and monuments and centers are opened.

        I did not write that Yeltsin (suddenly) became good. I wrote about who started all this and without whom nothing like this would have happened.
        And people will quickly turn its monuments and centers into public toilets when the support "from above" ends ...
        It turns out that we were all badly "lying"; our parents, relatives, friends, acquaintances and millions of those who (C) did not fit into the laws of the market.

        It turns out that yes. (((
        Both two are corrupt Judas!

        There is no arguing.
    2. 0
      5 February 2019 19: 30
      Gorbachev was ruining the country in front of the people, why did everyone silently look at it? Today it is not so difficult to rebuild a powerful state, but how many will refuse the material good that freedom from socialism has brought us? The whole problem is venality; many looked to the West and wanted the same luxury as theirs.
      1. 0
        6 February 2019 12: 35
        why did everyone silently look at it?

        And no one saw (except for "individuals"), because there was a screen - "perestroika".
        Perestroika is a kind of a very necessary thing for the people, and indeed for everyone in the USSR, at that time ...

        therefore did not see ...
        The whole problem is venality; many looked to the West and wanted the same luxury as theirs.

        No, not so.
        Most wanted not "luxury" but "individuality." They wanted the standard attributes of a peaceful life.
        And this is a very urgent problem at that time.
        It now seems to us that "they sold the country for chewing gum, jeans and cocoa-cola", but these are integral components of a peaceful life and when a person does not have them, then his whole life becomes gray "home-work-home-booze" This is now, there is a variety of everything and everyone, but then this was not.
        This problem had to be solved, of course, the USSR could produce socks, underpants and cars, but it could not provide their variety, and even more so to keep up with fashion, this is how "very non-maneuverable" large enterprises united in the industry were engaged in this, and this needed a smart guy and medium business, which fundamentally contradicted the ideology of the state.
        But backward China was able to solve this problem (although now it’s impossible to name backward ones), which could unite the unified.
  31. -1
    4 February 2019 17: 18
    And who is sorry? What and how is this pity manifested?
  32. +2
    5 February 2019 14: 25
    Let's honestly, without google, right here right away. Blitz test for knowledge and love for the USSR
    - VTsSPS decryption
    - what are the differences: Gorkom, City Council, City Executive Committee
    - what is RAIPO
    - What is the difference between the Presidium of the Supreme Council and the Politburo.
    - name at least one first secretary of the Communist Party of the RSFSR
    I suspect that people under the age of 75 are unlikely to cope with this task, because they were schoolchildren in those days, and only their carefree childhood is remembered about life in the USSR. And so it is the majority, which, however, does not prevent them from talking smartly about the party line and the traitor Gorbachev.
  33. +1
    5 February 2019 19: 03
    Uh-huh. another study from the thoroughly managed and paid "Blevada Center". Very valuable research. Almost 30 years have passed; nothing can be returned. Why this research? Where does taxpayer money go?
  34. 0
    5 February 2019 21: 20
    Formation change is inevitable
    Here the dialectic of law
    But expectations are hopeless
    While greed is right
  35. 0
    9 February 2019 19: 09
    Yesterday in an on-line toy he corresponded with one Latvian very entertainingly, they whine and nostalgia for the strong rich Latvia as part of the USSR.
    Here is a screen of correspondence for clarity

  36. +1
    12 February 2019 16: 47
    why? the blood of our fathers, grandfathers, great .... great ... great ... paid