Battle without a win

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Battle without a win


Afghanistan is doomed to become a victim of the US-Iran conflict

Recently, one of the main themes of the world media has been the discussion of the possibility of a military strike by the United States or Israel on Iran. What are the consequences of an American strike on Iran? First of all, for neighboring Afghanistan, where the thousands of US and NATO forces are deployed, which can be used to conduct a military operation against Tehran.

In the event of the beginning of an armed conflict between the US and Iran (American political analyst Zbigniew Brzezinski does not exclude the possibility of attacking Iran in October 2012), the western and southwestern parts of Afghanistan find themselves in a zone of heightened danger and, possibly, hostilities. It is primarily about the provinces of Herat, Farah and Nimroz.

According to experts from the Center for the Study of Modern Afghanistan (TsISA), the armed conflict between the United States and Iran will mainly be a series of massive aviation and missile strikes by the United States and its allies (Great Britain, Israel) on Iranian nuclear facilities, elements of Iranian military infrastructure, oil pipelines and other targets. Given the presence on Afghan territory of several large US air bases in Bagram, as well as on the territory of Herat province, primarily at the air base in Shindand, there is reason to believe that the US Air Force combat aircraft deployed there will take part in attacks on Iranian targets.

A key role in ensuring US air attacks on Iran from Afghan territory is likely to be played by the military airfield of the Shindand base. Built by Soviet specialists, it is located on the northern outskirts of the district center of Herat province, the city of Shindand. Currently, Afghan, American and Italian forces are stationed at the air base. The city of Shindand is located near the highway of the ring road, which was recently laid in all the western regions of Afghanistan. This highway can be used to transfer American and British forces directly to the Iranian border in the provinces of Herat, Nimroz and Farah.

In case of successful air and rocket attacks on Iranian nuclear infrastructure, most of which, according to information from open sources, are located in northern and northeastern Iran, in relative proximity to the Iranian-Turkmen border, complications of the radiation situation in these areas cannot be ruled out. The extent of possible radiation contamination may be such that it also affects parts of the Afghan province of Herat, directly adjacent to the Iranian border.

Despite the fact that the main combat content of the Iranian-American conflict will be air strikes, one should also expect the use of special forces units of the United States and Great Britain on Iranian territory. Such units, trained in specific conditions and tested by combat in the course of performing special tasks in Afghanistan, are located in the provinces of Helmand and Kandahar, as well as in a number of northern Afghan provinces. These parts can be used for sabotage and other special actions on the territory of Iran. In particular, to assess the results of missile and air strikes on nuclear facilities, to perform tasks on the control sweep of areas containing nuclear infrastructure, as well as to physically eliminate or capture personnel of nuclear facilities that survived a series of air strikes.

Materials, documents and prisoners discovered during special raids into Iranian territory can also be transported to Afghan territory and placed on the infrastructure of the United States and NATO in Afghanistan.

IRAN READY NOT ONLY FOR DEFENSE

The Iranian military, which probably assumes the possibility of using the Afghan territory to secure an air strike by the United States, can launch preemptive strikes and “retaliation strikes” on the US and NATO facilities on Afghan territory accessible to the Iranian Air Force and missile forces. In addition, Afghan military and civilian targets in the provinces of Herat, Farah and Nimroz may be subject to Iranian counterstrikes.

Obviously, the main target for the Iranian Armed Forces will be the Shindand air base. One can expect retaliatory strikes by the surviving Iranian Air Force on this air base, as well as ground attacks from the special forces of Tehran. Participation of separate detachments of Taliban fighters and the Islamic Party of Afghanistan (IPA) Gulbuddin Hekmatyar on the side of Iran is not excluded. As military and political tensions escalate between Tehran and Washington, we should expect the transfer of Afghan militant groups controlled by Iran and their concentration in the provinces of Herat, Fararh and Nimroz, as well as in Helmand, where the main forces of the British contingent are located, and the activation of anti-American combat groups in these provinces.

The likelihood of a retaliatory strike by the Iranian armed forces against a major population center in Afghanistan cannot be ruled out. These may be the cities of Herat, Shindand, Torgundi (Kushk county, Herat provinces). The goal of "retaliation" will be the desire to cause discontent of the Afghan population with the Americans, who by their actions against Tehran provoked a retaliatory strike by Iranian forces.

We should also expect large-scale attacks by militants from among the groups of Taliban and IPA sympathizing with Tehran on American facilities in Kabul, in general, the growth of militant activity against the US and NATO garrisons in Afghanistan.

The US attack on Iran will force the Taliban leadership to respond to this conflict. Despite the religious differences between Shiites (Iran) and Sunnis (Taliban), the Taliban leaders are likely to be forced to take a pro-Iranian and anti-American position. One of the likely outcomes of this will be the breakdown of negotiations between US representatives and Taliban emissaries in Qatar.

In the event of a conflict, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, who lived in Tehran before 2001, will also take an active anti-American stance. The American attack on Iran, therefore, can also disrupt the negotiation process between the official Kabul and the IPA leadership outlined in January 2012.

In the case of the Iranian-American armed conflict, one should also expect an increase in militant activity of those Taliban factions controlled by Pakistan. The aggravation of relations between Kabul and Tehran will make the Afghan government more dependent on Islamabad.

Disruption of the negotiation process in Qatar will also strengthen Pakistani positions in relations between Washington and Islamabad. Americans will be forced to look again for an opportunity to use Pakistani mediation in contacts with the Taliban, which, in turn, will further weaken the position of the government of Hamid Karzai inside the country and in the regional political process.

If US and British forces strike Iran from Afghan territory, Tehran will inevitably raise the issue of the status of Afghanistan in the Iran-US conflict. Kabul will not be able to remain a neutral party in this case - it will be perceived by Iranian public opinion as a member of the anti-Iranian western coalition. In this regard, we should expect Iran to declare war on Afghanistan, completely block the Iranian-Afghan border and invade certain groups of Iranian armed forces into the territory of Western Afghanistan to commit sabotage and intimidation actions.

The closure of the Iranian-Afghan border will lead to a halt in the supply of gasoline, diesel fuel and other fuel and lubricants and food to the Afghan market. This will immediately cause an energy crisis in Afghanistan and a sharp rise in prices for gasoline, diesel fuel, and kerosene. In addition, we should expect a massive deportation from Iran of tens of thousands of Afghan refugees, which could lead to a humanitarian catastrophe in Western Afghanistan. It is obvious that all this will provoke the growth of opposition and protest sentiments in Afghanistan, and above all in Kabul.

The crisis in relations with Iran will inevitably provoke an internal political crisis in Kabul, will activate the systemic opposition in the national parliament, in the opposition groups of the former “Northern Alliance”. Attempts to impeach President Hamid Karzai and the emergence of a mass anti-American anti-war movement in Afghanistan, whose members will demand the forced withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghan territory, cannot be ruled out. If the government of the country cannot prevent the growth of this movement, then in Kabul prerequisites may arise for a political coup (the Afghan spring) and the removal of Hamid Karzai from the presidency.

If before the strike on Iran, the United States does not have time to conclude an agreement on strategic partnership with Afghanistan, which provides for the creation of permanent (long-term) US military bases on Afghan territory, then we should expect a breakdown in the negotiation process between Washington and Kabul. In the face of the US attack on Iran, the Afghan parliament will most likely oppose the deployment of US military bases and refuse to ratify the strategic partnership agreement with the US.

It can be assumed that the US authorities will try to intensify the process of concluding a treaty with Kabul in order to carry out the procedure of its ratification in the Volusi Jirga before the Iranian operation. Attempts by American representatives to speed up the signing and ratification of a strategic partnership agreement with Afghanistan should be viewed as one of the signs of preparation for the US attack on Iran.

In turn, one should expect the Iranian representatives to intensify pressure on official Kabul, including through opposition pro-Iranian political organizations in Afghanistan and the Iranian lobby in the Volusi Jirga in order to prevent the US-Afghan agreement. It is not excluded that Tehran will try to balance the process of preparing the US-Afghan strategic partnership agreement by initiating, through its controlled deputies in the Volusi Jirga, a draft of simultaneous conclusion of the same agreement between Afghanistan and Iran.

AFGHANISTAN TOO HOT

The events in Afghanistan itself do not speak in favor of launching a US strike on Iran. In recent months, emerging difficult situation. At the beginning of 2012, a video of the mockery of the American military over the corpses of killed Afghans, allegedly by the Taliban, was published on the Internet. The publication of the scandalous video caused a storm of indignation in Afghan society, regardless of the political views of certain groups of the population.

A few weeks after the abuse of the bodies of Afghans, another event occurred that caused mass anti-American demonstrations in Afghanistan. A large number of religious literature, including dozens of copies of the holy Koran for Muslims, were burned on the territory of the American base in Bagram. The burning process was stopped when several copies of the half-burned books were taken by Afghan employees out of the base and shown to the clergy.

According to representatives of NATO, the decision to burn religious literature, seized from the prison library, was made by the command of the base after the discovery of extremist materials in them, mainly postscript made by prisoners. Obviously, a completely different reaction of the Afghan society could be expected if the command showed the actions of the Taliban prisoners to the press. However, some Afghan deputies called the incident in Bagram a conspiracy from neighboring countries.

However, it is extremely difficult to blame the neighboring countries for what happened on 11 in March in the district of Panjwai, Kandahar Province. According to the US command, one of the servicemen left the military unit, after which 16 civilians were shot dead in a nearby Afghan village, including eight children, four women and four elderly men. The youngest victim of this bloody night hunt was two years old. The Pentagon is convinced that mentally unstable soldier 38-year-old Robert Bales is guilty of the crime. However, there are still a lot of questions in this matter that make the Pentagon not to believe. It is unlikely that a killer soldier could leave the territory of a military base, which had a triple security guard system, alone at night without the sanction of command. In addition, in southern Afghanistan, including for security reasons, foreign military bases are far from settlements, which almost excludes the possibility of getting to the crime scene on foot in the middle of the night.

After the incident, the Afghan authorities sent a commission to the district to clarify the circumstances of the tragedy. The commission included, in particular, the president’s brother, Qayum Karzai, and several members of the national parliament. It is noteworthy that the delegation on arrival in Panjvay County was attacked by militants, which was perceived by many Afghan experts as creating an obstacle to the work of the commission. However, none of the commission members was injured as a result of the attack.

Upon returning to Kabul, members of the government commission made an unexpected statement. Hamidzai Lalai, a member of the lower house of the Afghan parliament, a spokesman for Kandahar province, said that before the execution, American soldiers raped two women and then opened fire on defenseless civilians. Another representative of the commission, Shakiba Hashimi, said that American soldiers participated in the shooting, from 15 to 20, who were even supported from the air by helicopters.

As we see, the Afghan and American versions diverge, and for the time being it is difficult to say what actually happened that night in the district of Panjway. You can say one thing: the case in Kandahar, like the two previous incidents, is a severe blow to the positions of the US military in Afghanistan. Because of these events, anti-American sentiments in Afghan society have reached their limits. After the incident with the burning of the Koran in the headquarters of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the IRA, two American officers were shot dead by Afghan soldiers, who managed to freely leave this well-guarded object in the center of Kabul.

Abuse of the bodies of Afghans, disrespect for their religious feelings and the shooting of civilians will certainly affect the strengthening of the position of the Taliban, whose popularity among the population has only declined in recent years. It is possible to expect not only an increase in the sympathy of the population for the Taliban, who promised people to avenge the "victims of Kandahar", but also the replenishment of the ranks of militants from among the population. Growing sympathy for the Taliban can be expected not only within Afghanistan. Obviously, this will happen in other countries of the Islamic world, which can improve the shaken financial position of the “violent mullahs”. Ultimately, all this will lead to a strengthening of the position of the Taliban in the Qatari process.

The deterioration of the situation of Americans in Afghanistan and the growth of tension in this country may affect the US plans for Iran. The situation developing in Afghanistan today calls into question the possibility of a strike on Iran by the United States this year.

However, this does not apply to other opponents of Iran. And although officials and unofficial officials in the United States and Israel ruled out the possibility of an Israeli attack on Iran, nevertheless, in early March 2012, some Western publications published assessments of military experts who modeled a possible air attack by the Israeli air force on Iran.

IN TEHRAN WITH IMPROVEMENT LOOKING AT BAKU AND TEL-AVIV

In one of the articles published by the BBC resource, it is said that Israel recently purchased 125 modern F-15L and F-16L fighter jets, equipped with additional fuel tanks. According to experts, the Israeli government also purchased weapons intended for the destruction of underground facilities. In addition, UAVs entered the army of this country with the possibility of a "long-distance campaign". Although Israel is experienced in delivering a fairly successful air strike on Iraq in 1981, military experts believe that attacking Iran will not be easy.

First, the Iranian objects of interest to Israel are mostly underground. Secondly, important objects of Iran are located at a distance of 1600 – 1800 km from Israeli bases. In reality, this distance may still increase, since it is not known whether Israel can get an air corridor for bombing Iran through the airspace of Turkey or Saudi Arabia. According to military analysts, the best option is the air corridor through Iraq, where airspace is still controlled by the United States. According to experts, even with additional fuel tanks, Israeli aircraft will not be able to make such flights without refueling. According to experts, Israel currently has 8 – 10 tanker aircraft, but they are not enough to carry out an operation of this magnitude. If the Israeli Air Force in the near future will try to get additional tankers, this may indicate the beginning of practical preparation for an attack on Iran.

Experts do not exclude the possibility of a strike on Iranian targets by Israeli air forces from the territory of other countries. The strengthening of the partnership between Israel and Azerbaijan, outlined in recent months, in Tehran is viewed as a preparation for the use of Azerbaijani territory as a possible transit point for air strikes on Iran.

Against this background, diplomatic tensions between Tehran and Baku are heightening. In February 2012, the Iranian Foreign Ministry summoned the ambassador of Azerbaijan to this country to give explanations about the reports about the signing of an agreement on military cooperation between Azerbaijan and Israel. The Azerbaijani diplomat acknowledged the signing of an agreement on the purchase of weapons, but explained that his country hopes that the new weapons will help Baku to liberate the "occupied territories". It should be noted that only in February 2012, the Iranian Foreign Ministry twice called the ambassador of Azerbaijan for explanations.

It is obvious that Tehran will try to further neutralize the various elements of the potential infrastructure of the invasion created by Israel and the United States. Since Iran considers the Republic of Azerbaijan to be the most important element of this infrastructure, the Tehran politicians will concentrate considerable efforts primarily on the Azerbaijani direction.

Second-level threats to Iranian national security are US and NATO military installations and groups located in Iraq and Afghanistan. In this regard, as the situation around Iran deteriorates, one should expect preventive diplomatic, political, and coercive actions of the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad government against the official Kabul and Baghdad authorities. Given the noticeable influence that Tehran has on some illegal armed groups in Iraq and Afghanistan, one cannot exclude the use of their militants to conduct acts of intimidation and sabotage against the US military and US facilities in Iraqi and Afghan territory. In the event of an armed confrontation between Iran, Israel and the United States, the organization of such sabotage and terrorist acts will become inevitable.
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  1. +22
    13 June 2012 07: 18
    Well, in general, the whole region will blaze. Fireworks will hit Israel first, and then what? Daily entry into the war of new countries. Jews again rush to Russia. Save, help, holocaust ...
    1. Igorboss16
      +11
      13 June 2012 07: 29
      if these idiots decide to bomb nuclear facilities, then the situation will probably be very dangerous for all the closest neighbors, in general, the US leadership does not take into account the consequences of such simply absurd steps
      1. +7
        13 June 2012 07: 38
        Not very optimistic analysis. It turns out that if the Yankees begin to move against Iran, the war will cover the whole east. Amer do not think that they will get to the hayclub? More than sure that they themselves from the attacks of suffocating on their holes.
        1. 0
          14 June 2012 06: 56
          hardly something significant will happen, Iraq and Afghanistan banged, no one lifted a finger, a surge of terrorism in the states is also not observed. Arabs will rub off and puff themselves holes, but share the remaining inheritance
      2. Ataturk
        +2
        13 June 2012 09: 22
        Quote: Igorboss16
        if these idiots decide to bomb nuclear facilities


        By God, I am amazed at your comments. I don’t understand who writes, an adult or a boy. Forgive me, of course, but God sees, I am indifferent to both of them, but can you imagine NUCLEAR WEAPON in the hands of a mullah? Which I note, the whole world public shouted that it is necessary to wipe Israel from the face of the earth.

        Is there a guarantee that he will not say tomorrow that it is necessary to wipe some other country off the face of the earth? I personally do not. Considering who they are, these Persians, and I know them by hearsay, they have 5 Fridays in one week.


        This is not a country that should have nuclear weapons.

        Have you ever been to Iran? I have been more than once and I know what kind of people it is. On the street everything is in burqa and at home whiskey and mini skirts. If they are limiting to their society, what are their words worth saying that they have a peaceful atom?

        Regards Omar
        1. +5
          13 June 2012 10: 16
          In many ways I agree with you, I myself saw closed clubs lined with security in London in the Soho area - they are silent when asked what happened. And then one of the waitresses said - these are sheikhs walking. And security and privacy that no one would see. It is clear that all these beautiful words about the canons of Islam are just beautiful words. Yes, and nuclear weapons in the hands of a paranoid - it's scary. But here the point is different, there is a clear and systematic doctrine to plunge the Middle East into chaos, and the chaos is clearly controlled by whom. And Iran, excuse me, is not some kind of backward country, and it is so easy for them to prostrate themselves before the "great sowers of democracy". Roll back 15 - 20 years ago, not Iran, not Iraq, did not threaten anyone and did not pose a threat. And then .... why would suddenly? The threat is invented and specially inflated. Therefore, Iran's answer is as follows.
        2. +5
          13 June 2012 11: 19
          Dear Atatürk, you are either mistaken or simply afraid of them. How are Iranians different from Pakistanis, for example, or from Israelis ??? They all have extremely crazy nationalists and religious fanatics !!! And the most peaceful and democratic country was the first and only to use nuclear weapons against civilians when there was no need !!! The use of nuclear weapons is clearly not dependent on religion or nationality - there are patients everywhere !!! All this is economics and geopolitics! It’s just that Iran is truly sovereign, the elite does not keep money in the West, pursues an independent policy, tries to abandon the dollar and has a lot of oil, is conveniently geopolitically located, and this is not for the guys from London, Washington and Jerusalem !!! By the way, Ahmadinejad NEVER said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth! Google, there are serious articles on this topic, where quotes and their interpretation in the media are given! Independent Western media attributed this to him.
          1. Ataturk
            0
            13 June 2012 11: 51
            Hello neri73-r

            Quote: neri73-r
            What is the difference between Iranians and Pakistanis

            96% of the population of Pakistan is Muslim, of which 75% are Sunnis.


            Pakistan supports my country in all matters, at all international meetings, which I will not say about Iran.

            Pakistani authorities say the same thing everywhere. What I will not say about Iran. They tell us one thing, in Armenia another and in Iran the third.

            Pakistanis are more Muslim than Iran. It is worth looking back for a couple of decades. In the time of SHAH, Iran was the second Holland.

            Pakistan, unlike Iran, adheres to the direction of Islamic solidarity. Iran, in turn, says the same thing but does something else.

            Plus, Pakistan proved that having NUCLEAR WEAPONS, it is able to keep it under surveillance and, unlike Iran, does not scream to the whole world that it will wipe the country from the face of the earth.

            Quote: neri73-r
            You are either mistaken or simply afraid of them.


            I am not mistaken because I live in the neighborhood with them and have been there more than once and I know them not from the news. They play a double game in relation to my homeland.

            PRESENT AN EXPRESSION SUCH. IRAN WILL NOT ALLOW KARABAKH TO BE IN THE COMPOSITION OF AZERBAIJAN.

            So their experts say. This is more than enough to despise them !!!!
            I’m Shiite and I don’t recognize the branch !!!

            It’s more enough for me that they equated a person with GOD and pray to a person. And it is FORBIDDEN !!! There is no deity except one God and all his other slaves! dot!!!

            Plus, they discriminate against my people who live in their original territories !!!

            To be afraid of them, this is not to respect yourself !!! But I'm afraid that you are my friend, I forgot that Iranian officials spoke about Russia. Alas.

            IMHO !!!

            Quote: neri73-r
            They all have extremely crazy nationalists and religious fanatics !!!


            I’m afraid they have the whole head part of politics, only religious fanatics.


            Quote: neri73-r
            By the way, Ahmadinejad NEVER said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth!





            Quote: neri73-r
            It’s just that Iran is truly sovereign, the elite does not keep money in the West, pursues an independent policy, tries to abandon the dollar and has a lot of oil, is conveniently geopolitically located, and this is not for the guys from London, Washington and Jerusalem !!!


            That's right, but that's another topic !!!
            1. +3
              13 June 2012 12: 34
              Dear Ataturk, you look at the world from your point of view, this is your right and I respect it !!! But I cannot agree with the fact that you brought a link to the ru feed as an argument! There is, in turn, a link to a very "authoritative and independent" publication, which categorically cannot be trusted - USA Today! I talked about this in my post and said that the words of Ahmadinejad were distorted by "independent media".
              1. Ataturk
                0
                13 June 2012 12: 42
                Quote: neri73-r
                I talked about this in my post and said that the words of Ahmadinejad were distorted by "independent media".


                Thank you for respecting my opinion. I really appreciate it.
                Just too many newspapers write about it. When you type Google or Yandex, you’ll see that so many newspapers write about his words.

                The question is different ...........

                if they confirm his words, on whose side are the Russian-language media?
                that is the question.

                Maybe this did not sell the S-300 of Iran?

                God alone knows the truth and these politicians. So we have to wonder where the truth is.


                Regards Omar
                1. +2
                  13 June 2012 14: 03
                  My opinion is that it is very significant, somewhere around 60% of our media are not on our side, they do not belong to us, but whoever pays, then orders the music !!! The elite of the West realized that take control of the media and society and society in your hands! A good example of ex Minister Fursenko and the imposition of the Bologna education system, well, the owner of our media and where he keeps the money everyone knows!

                  Thank you, it’s interesting to talk with you, I have been following your comments for a long time and I see that they are weighed, considered deep.

                  Sincerely, Sergey
            2. Don
              0
              14 June 2012 18: 05
              Quote: Ataturk
              96% of the population of Pakistan are Muslims, of whom 75% are Sunnis.
              Pakistan supports my country in all matters, at all international meetings, which I will not say about Iran.

              I just don’t understand this. You are Shiites, they are Sunnis. According to the idea, you should just more cooperate with Iran.
              Quote: Ataturk
              Pakistanis are more Muslim than Iran.

              How's that?
              Quote: Ataturk
              I’m Shiite and I don’t recognize the branch !!!

              But it is you personally, and 99% of your fellow citizens recognize.
        3. FiremanRS
          +1
          13 June 2012 12: 55
          Listen, what a habit of deciding what should be and who shouldn’t ?! Well, their main mullah shouted something there and what? Candidate for condoms amer shouted that Russia is the number one enemy and then what? Amer completely senseless threw TWO ATOMIC BOMBS at the Japanese, just like that, they wanted to try, so let's ban Amers from having nuclear weapons. And what the sheikhs do there or what the creators do in their homes is their personal space and their religion, what they want to do, let it not interfere with others. Christians also do a lot bypassing the laws of God. Remind you of indulgence? What about Israel? The Jews, as always, bought nuclear weapons and now they piss that they are poking around with a thread. Note, they didn’t create it themselves, but bought it, although they are not in the agreement on limiting nuclear weapons !!! So nefig on the mirror to blame if the face is crooked!
          1. Ataturk
            +1
            13 June 2012 13: 18
            Quote: FiremanRS
            Listen, what a habit of deciding what should be and who shouldn’t?


            Well, yes, let us send Palestine and nuclear weapons to Somalia and North Korea, Japan, Chechnya, Georgia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and anyone who wants to.

            What do you say dear?

            Quote: FiremanRS
            Amer completely meaningless threw TWO ATOMIC BOMBS on the Japanese


            Forgive you how old? Amer threw bombs for a reason, but for 3 reasons.
            1. Bring Japan to its knees.
            2. Test weapons.
            3. Scare the USSR.

            Didn't you know that?

            Quote: FiremanRS
            And what the sheikhs do there or what the creators do in their homes is their personal space and their religion, what they want to do, let it not interfere with others.


            There is a saying in Azerbaijan: Even a dead man must not be left unattended .... That is, it will start to decompose and so on. So is politics in the modern world; supervision is needed.

            That's who can not have nuclear weapons and this is the United States.


            Quote: FiremanRS
            Christians also do a lot bypassing the laws of God.

            Believe everyone will answer !!! Everyone is responsible for the soul.

            Quote: FiremanRS
            The Jews, as always, bought nuclear weapons and now they piss that they are poking around with a thread.

            Israel no one will be able to occupy except unless it comes to the nat. security of Russia. And so the whole world is the INTERESTS OF ISRAEL.

            Sorry, but I do not agree with you.

            Gee. It is necessary to reduce the stock of nuclear weapons and not to increase.
            1. FiremanRS
              +3
              13 June 2012 14: 24
              Quote: Ataturk
              Well, yes, let us send Palestine and nuclear weapons to Somalia and North Korea, Japan, Chechnya, Georgia, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and anyone who wants to.

              What do you say dear?

              Have you read carefully? I spoke about the sale of nuclear weapons. You can’t sell, but if people have reached their minds, they agreed that you can’t spread it, then what the hell ????
              Quote: Ataturk
              Forgive you how old? Amer threw bombs for a reason, but for 3 reasons.
              1. Bring Japan to its knees.
              2. Test weapons.
              3. Scare the USSR.

              Didn't you know that?

              Oh really???? I’m old enough to understand that there are things that you can joke and play, but there are things that you can’t! Scare, experience, kneel ... What nonsense ??? You, too, will send a new slingshot to your neighbor’s unloving neighbor and in the bullet eye so that the whole yard is afraid and knows that you have it ??? What a childhood!

              Quote: Ataturk
              Quote: FiremanRS
              Christians also do a lot bypassing the laws of God.
              Believe everyone will answer !!! Everyone is responsible for the soul.

              They will answer, of course they will! Only neither you respected, nor I will know this until death. However, the conversation was not about that! Don't take phrases out of context!
              1. Ataturk
                +2
                13 June 2012 16: 32
                Quote: FiremanRS
                however, if people have reached their minds


                Dear, once TNT bombs were also out of a fantasy dream for terrorists, and now see what kind of bombs they make? There is no end to inventions. Belts with bombs, in a truck with a barrel and so on .... iiiii?

                Do you understand what I'm getting at? nothing is impossible.

                THERE IS YOUR RECIPE FOR CREATING AN ATOM BOMB.
                http://tarranova.lib.ru/authors/k/karp/karp01.txt


                SO that finding a manual for creating a bomb is not a difficult task !!!
                1. FiremanRS
                  +1
                  13 June 2012 18: 01
                  Yeah .... dear, how did you get it? Where does this panic about terrorism come from? Cause associations 10-year anti-terrorist operation of amers in Afghanistan, "found" weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and so the towers of shopping centers collapsed in time ...... Although this list is far from complete. Free democracy in the West is ready to justify any of its interests and actions precisely by the threat of terrorism ..... Although the right is to remember who fostered the same "al-Qaeda" ..
                  1. Ataturk
                    +2
                    13 June 2012 18: 27
                    Quote: FiremanRS
                    Free democracy of the West is ready to justify any of its interests


                    the West does not have democracy as well as freedom.
                    1. FiremanRS
                      +1
                      13 June 2012 20: 06
                      They then think quite differently)))) By the way, dear, about the creation of nuclear weapons. You exiled threw on how to do it ... and why then none of these "backward" terrorists blinded her ??? since it's so simple - I read it and "put it together on the table at home" ....
                      1. Ataturk
                        0
                        13 June 2012 21: 46
                        when you wrote it dear that why the terrorists do not make the atomic bomb, you write to make fun of or just to write something?

                        To create an atomic bomb, you need 110 kg of purified plutonium.
                        Do you know how to get it? If not, read the books.
                      2. FiremanRS
                        +1
                        13 June 2012 23: 43
                        Well, dear, you yourself answered:
                        Quote: Ataturk
                        Do you understand what I'm getting at? nothing is impossible.

                        THERE IS YOUR RECIPE FOR CREATING AN ATOM BOMB.
                        http://tarranova.lib.ru/authors/k/karp/karp01.txt

                        so excuse me, I could not deny myself the pleasure of having a little fun))))
                        However, the same terrorists have sufficient financial assistance to buy a little spare parts for themselves .... The next question is why they still haven’t done this?
                      3. Ataturk
                        +3
                        14 June 2012 00: 49
                        Quote: FiremanRS
                        The next question is why they still haven’t done this?

                        If you look at what is happening in the world, you can be sure that terrorists have long had atomic weapons.

                        The only question is who do you call terrorists?
                        I personally call US law.
                      4. FiremanRS
                        0
                        15 June 2012 14: 35
                        In general terms, dear man, I understand your way of thinking. Try to be more objective and not transfer personal national-patriotic thoughts and feelings to third-party states.
        4. 0
          13 June 2012 14: 54
          Why, then, is Pakistan allowed to have nuclear weapons?
          1. FiremanRS
            +1
            13 June 2012 18: 03
            Because the "owners" allowed it. And they (the owners) don't care about any contracts ...
          2. Starksa
            0
            16 August 2012 13: 37
            amers specials allowed. remember that Pakistan has been at enmity with India for a long time, besides, Pakistan was once a "friend" of the SSA, although now relations have cooled
        5. Starksa
          0
          16 August 2012 13: 32
          not surprisingly, a peaceful atom can be strictly controlled by the mate
    2. Goga
      +7
      13 June 2012 07: 50
      Alexander Romanov - Greetings, Aleksandr, - quote - "the whole region will blaze" - which is what the Americans are trying to achieve. However, in Afghanistan they "hung up" - there the Persians, with the full support of the "grateful" Yusam population, will definitely get there to their "contingent". And the airfields of the Americans in Afghanistan will surely fall victim to saboteurs in the first hours of the war. At one time, after the Second World War, when we did not have a sufficient number of nuclear weapons and their carriers for a retaliatory strike, ours, under the leadership of P. Sudoplatov, created such groups of saboteurs near all NATO air bases. I do not think that the Persians will miss such an opportunity - to "throw" the NATO troops in Afghanistan.
      And the fact that the first attempt at aggression against Iran will turn to Israel, as the saying goes, and a no brainer. They themselves set fire to themselves and burn ...
      1. +6
        13 June 2012 07: 57
        Greetings Igor. Yankees do not care that their own soldiers will die, the interests of the "nation" above all. The most unpleasant thing about all this is that the war will flare up around the borders of Russia. And this applies not only to our Asian but also our European borders. Since the Persians will try to tie NATO on their territory with terrorist attacks.
        1. Goga
          +5
          13 June 2012 08: 41
          Steam locomotive - Greetings, Eugene, - quote - "Yankees do not care that their own soldiers will die" - this is true, just not for the "Yankees" themselves, but for their owners from the "God-chosen" people. Again, before their elections, these inevitable losses there are unacceptable for them.
          And yet - a quote - "they themselves will suffocate from terrorist attacks in their holes", and the Persians directly warn about this - the war will not be limited to the Middle East - it will come to the house of the aggressor ...
    3. +9
      13 June 2012 09: 08
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Jews again rush to Russia. Save, help, holocaust ...

      Not, this time not to accept, they say that they owe their existence to Russia, and they immediately spoil it.
      1. +5
        13 June 2012 09: 15
        Quote: Tersky
        No, this time not to accept,

        Yes, where are we going? We are kind and back with bread and salt we will accept the sufferers.
        1. +6
          13 June 2012 09: 24
          Yes, sufferers: Abramovich, Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Hoffmann and others. Day-so suffer.
          1. Ataturk
            +4
            13 June 2012 09: 39
            Quote: Alexander Romanov

            Yes, sufferers: Abramovich, Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Hoffmann and others. Day-so suffer.


            Hello, Alexander.
            Believe me, my friend, it’s not Abramovich, not Berezovsky who is not interested in making money from the war with Iran. They are not from this class of people.

            Who is interested in money and in filling Syria and Iran, so their faces,





            и



            And all the other pawns in this dirty game.
            1. +8
              13 June 2012 10: 25
              Hello Omar, the photos of the faces of tapas are not Jews. Gusinsky made money selling weapons to Chechen fighters. For some people don’t smell like money, even if they stink of blood.
            2. +2
              13 June 2012 11: 26
              Absolutely and without options I agree with you! These are among the main ones !!!
            3. -4
              13 June 2012 20: 19
              Sense
              Quote: Ataturk
              Who is interested in money and in filling Syria and Iran, so their faces,

              I know only the third! US Treasury Secretary Bernanke Ben Shalom!
              In the middle, it looks like Heydar Aliyev, if only he had lived up to 150 years!
              The first is the Shuka sorcerer is the strongest!
            4. Evgeny B.
              +2
              13 June 2012 20: 31
              Dear Ataturk (2) I gave you +, but it is not! Did "these faces" appear on our site?
              By the way, we must pay tribute to Iran and Ahmadinejad for trying to awaken the world from the hypnotic dream into which he / they were plunged the Israelis. I think that that is why Iran must be attacked. For only they and the Russian Orthodox Church are trying to explain the role of Jews in politics and their ultimate plans. By the way, this applies to your people and you (and our people and me)! Therefore, as it seems to me, it is necessary to re-create the United Empire, because only together we can win!

              The text was highlighted and I, with surprise, saw that I was "circumcised", but this is not my fault, but the admins. I think that you will understand me this way.
    4. Aleksey67
      +2
      13 June 2012 09: 29
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, in general, the whole region will blaze. Fireworks will hit Israel first, and then what? Daily entry into the war of new countries. Jews again rush to Russia. Save, help, holocaust ...

      Sash, a bleak picture, but everything goes to that. Modern conditions allow the so-called "elite" to transfer capital within a short time and move with their families to "safe" countries, and therefore "for a small share" no one shuns "inciting" and pulling the countries in which they live in local (or large) conflicts in the firm consciousness that he will certainly be saved and will live happily ever after in a "secluded corner".
    5. +2
      13 June 2012 09: 49
      It seems that the Amers have plans to crumble, they planned to attack Iran in the summer, now the deadlines have been moved to autumn. It is necessary to continue not to give offense to Syria and the amers generally get cut off
      1. 755962
        +2
        13 June 2012 14: 19
        Quote: andrey586
        amers have plans to crumble

        Elections on the nose, the electorate does not want to lose (in the literal and figurative sense).
    6. 0
      14 June 2012 06: 32
      nda, joyful prospects are drawn.
  2. +8
    13 June 2012 07: 27
    The analysis is very detailed. The Americans continue to rekindle the "arc of instability" and prepare for the final blow - on Russia.
    1. Kaa
      -2
      14 June 2012 00: 49
      For nokkі, To the last (for them, Americans) blow to Russia. At the same time, the stocks of nuclear weapons can be reduced, moreover, by launching these stocks from the "ARC OF INSTABILITY" zone. If you have any questions, it was stolen from us in the 90s, and we have nothing to do with it.
  3. +7
    13 June 2012 07: 38
    Good analytical analysis of the situation around Iran. "+"
    Scavengers will not climb into Iran until they kick Syria out of the game, so Tehran will help Damascus as much as possible.
  4. party3AH
    +3
    13 June 2012 07: 41
    Hmm, the porridge is brewing, NATO seems to want to stir up all Muslims, certainly not in its favor, while the Americans will be occupied by Iran and Afghanistan in Qatar, they will displace the pro-American corrupt sheikh in the guise.
  5. Nursultan
    +5
    13 June 2012 08: 00
    Again, the Yankees are the cause. Oh, when will they stop taking over the world behind the cover of democracy?
    1. +4
      13 June 2012 11: 29
      When we take away from them (from their representatives) education and the media, in our countries and in the immediate environment !!!
      1. Marat
        +2
        13 June 2012 19: 52
        You are right neri - half or more of the Russian media works for enemies - takes anti-state and simply anti-Russian positions. It's time to end this
  6. Odinplys
    +6
    13 June 2012 08: 06
    Neither Syria ... nor Iraq ...
    Enough Yugoslavia ... with all the ensuing consequences ...
    Whatever it was ... but against everyone ... Syria ... Iraq ... Russia ... China ... the Zionists can’t cope ... if there is a war ... they won’t pull on two fronts. .. yes and forget ... they’re ...
    And the Jews back nefig admit ... they want war, let them fight ...
    1. Ataturk
      +1
      13 June 2012 09: 27
      Quote: OdinPlys
      Neither Syria ... nor Iraq ...


      Greetings my friend !!!
      Iraq is already littered. Syria can only be saved at the negotiating table. It’s too late to send anything there. If you mean Iran ... then I have a double answer for Iran. NO WAR, but NUCLEAR WEAPONS wouldn’t want them to have !!!

      I’m silent about China, who and if concrete steps will be taken, is Russia, China, she is cunningly doing ... As she builds up strength, America will play along, because their economy depends on Europe and the USA, so they will bark only on TV and no more.

      Iraq is generally six, and there is nothing to say. Syria is really sorry !!!
    2. Kaa
      -3
      14 June 2012 00: 56
      OdinPlys. With pleasure, I plus and with nostalgia I remember 1967, when submarines with missiles with special warheads barred in the Mediterranean Sea, awaiting orders from Moscow to launch one coastal state. Then the Central Committee did not have determination, but it would have been enough, so maybe the next mess would not have happened ....
  7. +3
    13 June 2012 08: 17
    To the author + for the analysis. I would like to add. in Iran, besides the armed forces, there is also the "Islamic Revolution Guard Corps" - these guys are generally frostbitten fanatics loyal to their country. Who can confidently say now that some part of them is no longer preparing terrorist acts in neighboring "pro-American" states - as they say in war, all methods are good. thus, when Iran is struck, the entire Arab world will blaze, and this is practically the third world one.
    1. Ataturk
      +1
      13 June 2012 09: 33
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      and this is almost the third world.

      +1

      Good morning fellow countryman !!!
      But what to do if in the hands of these fanatics is the NUCLEAR WEAPON, can you then imagine the TONE of communication between Ahmednijad? Can you imagine that Iran will become a NUCLEAR COUNTRY?

      I would not want to. I am sure of many too. If they threaten to wipe the country off the face of the earth without a nuclear weapon, it doesn’t matter which country is the country and there are CHILDREN and WOMEN living in the country, is there any guarantee that they will not say tomorrow that it’s time for JIHAD to arrange for all not faithful? Given what they are, you already know for sure.

      Regards, Omar.
  8. Nechai
    +2
    13 June 2012 09: 32
    Quote: Nursultan
    Oh, when will they stop taking over the world behind the cover of democracy?

    And they have NO other choice. If the "arc of instability" does NOT flare, then they will flare up "at home" ....
    1. Kaa
      -3
      14 June 2012 01: 02
      For Nechai. Let's do our best for that. In the "arc of instability" - fire extinguishers in the form of S-300, Tor, Buk, Carapace of the most recent modifications with "internationalists" and we will wait for the cherished "blaze" at their "home"
  9. the gray wolf
    0
    13 June 2012 09: 49
    Farce has been duplicitous since time immemorial.
  10. Ergenekon
    -2
    13 June 2012 09: 50
    Farce hounds became.
    1. Kamilla
      +2
      13 June 2012 19: 05
      Quote: Ergenekon
      Farcehound Greyhounds


      little is left ... soon there will be nothing left of the greyhound ..... I'm afraid that from Iran itself, too.
      1. nemesis 13
        -5
        13 June 2012 23: 30
        Quote: Kamilla
        little is left ... soon there will be nothing left of the greyhound ..... I'm afraid that from Iran itself too

        wassat wassat
      2. Kaa
        -1
        14 June 2012 01: 13
        Quote [Kamilla] little is left ... soon there will be nothing left of the greyhound ..... I'm afraid that Iran itself, too. [/ Quote]
        You are rightly afraid that the greyhound will turn into a bold confidence, Iran will remain in place, except that it will expand slightly within the borders
        1. Kamilla
          +3
          14 June 2012 09: 13
          Quote: Kaa
          You are rightly afraid that the greyhound will turn into a bold confidence, Iran will remain in place, except that it will expand slightly within the borders


          yes, it’s unlikely .... they didn’t put such greyhounds in their place ... a good example - Iraq, Libya ... and it will decrease within the borders, I assure you, everything has its time, and we, having patience, will wait and return our ..
    2. Kaa
      -2
      14 June 2012 01: 09
      For Ergenekon. Yes, not a greyhound of the Turks. Either "let's help the Syrian opposition", then "the revival of the Ottoman Empire." And what does the "coitus praeternaturales" of the Zionists with the Turks look like in the form of cooperation between Baku and Tel Aviv?
  11. 0
    13 June 2012 10: 27
    In my opinion, what is happening in the Middle East, or rather, the creation and support of controlled chaos, is the gradual destruction of everything (economy, infrastructure, culture, production, etc.) as well as the fragmentation of people according to class and religion. And then the gradual squeezing into a certain place and the creation of reservations (an example is the Indians in the USA). And then the complete seizure of territories (only profitable territories) and resources. But what will remain there will create reservations for the local population (how much will it remain after this?) And voila, new life spaces, resources and cheap (free) working force.
  12. Hey
    -1
    13 June 2012 10: 38
    The Western coalition will not strike from the territory of Aganistan against Iran for the reason that they are there in a bag on the issue of supply. In the event of war, Russia will close transit and will not allow it to be carried out by the Central Asian republics either. Pakistan also, I think, will not provide either territory or airspace for transit. And how much will the coalition hold out on its reserves under blows from all sides? There will be no war with Iran until the coalition forces withdraw from Afghanistan. In extreme cases, there will be a small number of soldiers left, if anything, they will break out of there, having carried out an air operation to break through. And even through the airspace of Iran, where air defense will be suppressed. Most likely they will not break through Pakistan (why should there be another confrontation, although they can agree on a substantial reward).
  13. +1
    13 June 2012 11: 33
    In this situation, you need to be an idiot to attack Iran. In Iraq, the Americans themselves brought the Shiite majority to power, the current guerrilla war is sluggish there, Afghanistan is also not calm, and Iran, if desired, can help both its eastern neighbor and its western one. And besides, in extreme cases, they will strain and create a nuclear bomb. And then it will not be an arc of instability, but hell, with nuclear mushrooms and millions of corpses at our borders.
  14. patriot2
    +1
    13 June 2012 11: 42
    The article gives an analysis of the situation, but the course of events cannot be calculated. Because Iran, possessing not only nuclear weapons, but also specially trained people, is capable of delivering a preemptive strike against the aggressor, and not just a retaliation strike. What will happen as a result - no one can predict.
    The path of aggression in the Middle East is a one-way road, there will be no return ticket.
  15. Ataturk
    +1
    13 June 2012 12: 17
    Quote: patriot2
    Because Iran, possessing not only nuclear weapons


    If Iran had nuclear weapons, it would have been smashed long ago. Believe me.
    1. Kaa
      -4
      14 June 2012 01: 18
      For Ataturk. "And on the sopatka?" North Korea got it, so what? Someone smashed? The USSR only appeared in 1949, all the "Dropshots" were deactivated at once, who needs "unacceptable losses" at home?
      1. Kamilla
        +3
        14 June 2012 09: 51
        Quote: Kaa
        North Korea got it, so what? Someone smashed?


        North Korea does not threaten to wipe out the whole state ...
  16. lcalex
    +2
    13 June 2012 13: 56
    Hillary said today that a batch of Russian military helicopters has been delivered to Iran. And tryndet that they say ay-ay-ay Russia, what are you doing Russia? Like additional blood, etc.
    But sources in Pettagon say: the Russian Federation? Turntables? Iran? And we didn’t know ... request
    The Russian Federation has not yet answered this statement.
    So, Clinton just beguiled the shore or specially international opinion annoying ???? Radish!



    And generally speaking:
    In 2011, China supplied four self-propelled ballistic missile launchers to the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. This is reported by Japanese media. Shipments were obtained from tracking satellites in Japan, South Korea, and the United States.

    Are we done with a finger? The Russian Federation as a measure to protect its southern borders should supply weapons systems intended for defense to Syria and Iran
    1. Marat
      +1
      13 June 2012 19: 59
      I will correct Isaleks a little! Russia was accused of delivering combat helicopters to Syria (Clintonsha spoke on TV today - they say civilians will be shot from them - agree absurd!)

      They also accused Rosoboronexport of delivering rocket technology to Iran - thanks to which the Persians are able to launch the carrier into orbit from a half-ton load (good news by the way! That means we are helping a neighbor!) - but they will threaten sanctions against Rosoboronexport (bad news)
  17. +1
    13 June 2012 14: 45
    The history of the spread of nuclear weapons is in itself a rather interesting topic: who, to whom, when and for what purposes "donated" production technologies. Seeking parity in the world, the USA and the USSR made a number of mistakes, which in the end should come back to haunt both them and us. Now nothing is "given" to anyone, but what about those who come up with something similar with their brains? The sovereign state has reached such a level of technological development that it is able to produce not only toilets and everyone (at someone's request) suddenly got scared! Afraid of what? There, in this state, are there some fanatics? Some stupid people who do not understand the consequences of using such weapons? Brad, everyone understands everything! And how it will begin and how it will end! After all, there is no guarantee that inadequate leaders can come to power in any nuclear power. It's just that someone needs to moderate their warlike ardor to build a global democratic society of their own model and, believe me, a lot will fall into place. Conflicts will subside, politicians in their disputes will cool down. The dog barks at the one who teases it. And it is a crime to drive the country into the Stone Age for fear of something that does not exist yet! True, for America, Americans always find an excuse for such an act.
  18. +2
    13 June 2012 14: 51
    An interesting article ... Why does the author analyze the consequences of strikes in relation to Afghanistan? Who is interested in these consequences in our country?
    1. IGR
      IGR
      0
      13 June 2012 23: 51
      it’s inconvenient to go to wash the feet of the Indian Ocean through glass melted to a state of Afghanistan fool
    2. Kaa
      -2
      14 June 2012 01: 22
      For baron.nn Interesting for those who do not like the fact that Russia has become the main consumer of the Afghan gerych (this is a "quiet war" against Russia)
  19. vampik88
    +2
    13 June 2012 19: 13
    and China will definitely not stand aside. if the war begins, little will not seem to everyone. and if we assume that Iran already has nuclear weapons, then what? Vanga’s predictions about nuclear explosions - somehow I don’t want them to come true. nothing better than the world can be better !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. mind1954
    +1
    13 June 2012 22: 09
    You look at the arguments! With which they try to drag us again
    to Afghanistan !!!
    They are very reminiscent of those that argued for the introduction of troops in 1979.
    Literally, from day to day, the Americans were supposed to go there ??? !!!
    So it is now! Arguing the fight against drugs ?!
    Well this is absolutely blatant stupidity! Drugs may come to us
    from all sides and, even calmly, are made in our country !!!
    DEMAND CREATES SUPPLY !!! Therefore, if they are going to
    not to "fight", but to end drugs, then the blow must be inflicted on
    to the demand! Took on sale. Or you hand over a supplier, then life with prison
    and if necessary, then treatment. DO NOT BUILD, BECOME TO THE WALL !!!
    It’s not necessary to fight this business, but to snatch this type of business on our
    earth with a root! And you can’t do without terror here! This one is needed
    make business unprofitable for those involved in it !!
    Anyone who wants to make money on death should know that paying for it
    there will be death AND ONLY SO !!! And for all sorts of tosses and fabrications
    the case for drug-related payback should be the same! Measures should
    to be such that ALL shied away from drugs, like "the devil from incense" !!!
    N.S. Khrushchev was accused of arbitrariness with Rokotov and Faibishenko, but after
    This farmers were engaged in anything, but not currency!
    FSKN cannot resist because it is created to be
    feeder from the so-called fight against drug addiction! You name
    decrypt. This is MUCHING !!!
    At a recent international meeting, a Chinese representative
    asked our question about the shooting of drug dealers. So ours even
    did not answer, pretended not to hear !!!
    1. Kaa
      -2
      14 June 2012 01: 33
      For mind 1954. In Iran, drug producers and drug dealers do not stand on ceremony. Let them introduce it into everyday life in Afghanistan. And we are humane people, let's limit ourselves to life in our territory for trade, production and sales. And drug addicts with experience, since treatment is ineffective and only one LIFETIME isolation from their forbidden fruit is required - to settle on an island (New, Northern Land with the creation of normal conditions for life and work) - after all, there is a climate there, you know, for cultivation is of little use. "For three hundred years the poppy did not give birth, and there was no hunger!"
  21. +2
    13 June 2012 23: 08
    good and objective article
  22. Kaa
    -2
    14 June 2012 09: 33
    Look how the Ataturk nokii and Camille raged and raged, it was worth saying a positive word about Iran! democracy in action! Are you here on the site on business, or what?
    1. Kamilla
      +3
      14 June 2012 09: 58
      Quote: Kaa
      Are you here on the site on business, or what?


      and how are you? we, let us suppose, have a reason for such an attitude towards Iran ... and you, what prompts it to defend so vehemently?
      1. Ataturk
        +3
        14 June 2012 10: 43
        Quote: Kamilla
        and how are you? we, let us suppose, have a reason for such an attitude towards Iran ... and you, what prompts it to defend so vehemently?


        the enemy of my enemy, my friend !!!)))))))))))) I see no other reason
    2. nemesis 13
      -3
      14 June 2012 21: 04
      Quote: Kaa
      Look how the Ataturk nokii and Camille raged and raged, it was worth saying a positive word about Iran! democracy in action! Are you here on the site on business, or what?


      they have a robot such agitation of Azeri interests