Julia, even without a braid - this is serious

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Greetings to you, my dear readers! I didn’t want to write about our internal ratings about the election of a new or old president. But your attention to this topic just makes it do, and without the usual my hochmochek. However, I have you prepared their bag, so once you can and seriously talk about sore.

You know, once, in the distant past, having given up drinking seriously, I discovered a terrible truth for myself. It turns out that I don’t dance so well! But up to this point, I was sure of 100% in the opposite. So today I drink - I drink, but I don’t like to love this business!



Something similar happens today. But, given my pathological dislike for alcohol (well, after all, the enemy is his body, and the enemy must be destroyed mercilessly), I notice how others are dancing. And why do they dance - I also notice. Moreover, questions arise.

For example, why our and your media do not notice the obvious? Why not focus on this obvious?

So, some anti-caracter readers blame me for criticizing political analysts in Russia and Ukraine. "Clever people who own non-public information know better" ... Perhaps. Even agree, really know better. But why most of the others do not know about it?

So today I will write about the unexpected. As in the Soviet TV show "The Obvious - The Incredible." About our hands on the presidential elections, based on drunken conversations on holidays, when the snack is coming to an end, and there is still a drink. And when the intercourse of the interlocutors generously pours all the murk over the interlocutor through the tongue.

When, forgive me, in an hour of friendly conversation, you can talk about it easily and naturally for five or six years.

Most readers for some reason consider the common people stupid and gullible. There are those who are confident in the corruption of the electorate. They only forget that they themselves are part of this people. And the electorate.

I will begin, perhaps, with tinsel, which always accompanies elections in any democratic country. Many candidates who perform the role of lightning rods, duty bums, imitators of the people's voice and other things.

Ukraine is no exception. I'll tell you - she is a clean set of confirmations. Today we have a lot of such candidates. Just recently it was with you. Something they say on television debates. Garbage in the mailboxes of their agitation. Hang their faces on posters along the roads. But in general, everyone understands that this is nothing more than foam.

At the same time, everyone knows who will fight for the presidency. There will be two.



The current hydrant and the former political ... no, illegally seated (not on the throne, if anyone has forgotten) gas princess. Here is an alternative for modern Ukraine.

"Discovered America". This is obvious to everyone. And our society is split just by these two candidates. Poroshenko and Tymoshenko. Who is who?

It is obvious to everyone that the policy pursued by Poroshenko led the country to ... Europe. Well, so, in the dupu, of course, but everyone calls in his own way. Obviously, things will only get worse. Our western partners actually abandoned us. Having lost a lot of what we got from the USSR, we became really uninteresting to the West.

Even the United States, which sponsored the Maidan and organized our “vigorous march to a bright future,” also somehow subsided in an effort to help us.

Remember the paradoxical "Great Agrarian Power"? Today, any Ukrainian knows what it is. Industry, which means jobs for citizens, disappears. Together with the industry disappear citizens. Ukraine is turning into a country of villagers.

Do you know what is the most popular idea today? The idea of ​​independence! Unclear? And everything is simple. The popularity of independence means the non-aligned status of the country, friendship with neighbors, the restoration of friendly economic ties with Russia and ... federalization! Is amazing?

However, this is the case. Even the most stubborn nationalists today understand Ukraine’s dependence on Russia. It has even begun to reach the majority that the global West is not Russian. He will not forgive debts. He demands for his money to fulfill his own desires. And the Ukrainians for this West no more than aphid.

The initial message, which most do not notice today, sounds simple. The election will be opposed not by Petro Poroshenko’s bloc and Yulia Tymoshenko’s bloc! There will be two blocks - Poroshenko and against Poroshenko! Exactly.

Yulia Tymoshenko today for Ukrainians personifies two ideas.

The first is dissatisfaction with the policy of the current government in the face of Poroshenko.

The second is the idea of ​​the possibility of returning the location of Russia. Especially in the field of economics. An example of Belarus before our eyes!

Many readers did not understand the Voyage of the Hydrant in Ukraine with the Tomos. What for? Yes, and with its own support group from among state employees. Meanwhile, the voyage is indicative. It creates the appearance of support for the people of the new "church". Some of the not very literate voters actually go to "their Ukrainian church."



Although the main majority do not care what tomorrow the Hydrant will rush with, with Tomos, Thomas or phallus. Problems, to be honest, and without this set above the roof.

And what does the Hydrant do in parallel? He is actively working with the APU! Distributes rewards. Promises salary increase. Significant in this regard, visiting the MTR. New banner. The praises of soldiers and officers. Everything is for you! And you support me!

And what about Tymoshenko? Why she does not conduct the same active work? Or are we not seeing something?

No, we - see. Therefore, I strive to bring you an understanding of the situation.

To begin with, what few really know. No matter how hard the Hydrant tried to destroy the people of Tymoshenko in key posts, most of the loyal BYuT members of election commissions in the field. And, to my knowledge, they are actively preparing to resist stuffing, carousels and other "political technologies". This will seriously complicate the use of the administrative resource of the current president.

Another interesting idea is about where the "supporting leg" stands for opponents. Probably, some will disagree with me, but Poroshenko is supervised by the United States. Who, of course, wants, let it challenge, but not with me. But Tymoshenko ... Yulia is feeling fine and across the ocean, although she is very firm in the EU.

Why did I come to this conclusion? Yes, everything is simple. Russian gas! Throw out of your own mind all the thoughts of your political scientists and analysts and take a calculator. See Gazprom’s EU gas supply report. Now summarize all the volumes of gas pipelines in the EU without the Ukrainian GTS. Further subtraction and the result.

Russian gas is cheaper than American LNG, whatever their Trump says. We Poroshenko, too, on Monday morning can give this ...

So the axiom: Europe is interested in buying this your gas. Gazprom, no matter how he was tearing his vest on his chest, simply cannot give up on our GTS. At least 60 billion cubic meters will go through Ukraine. This is with a large tolerance on the increase in supply "through I can not", as was the case with the joint venture 1 this year.

The only candidate who has the opportunity to return to the dialogue with Putin is Tymoshenko. Putin clearly said that he would have no business with Poroshenko. And we know perfectly well that your president does not throw words to the wind.

So, Poroshenko’s power cover, which he feeds in every way is understandable today. This is the APU. And what about the BYuT? Is there such a cover?

Oh, dear, there is such a kublo ... Any serpentarium of the world will be admired. From the side, so that nobody can poison it.

Let's start with the Ministry of Interior. Noticed that the Hydrant does not climb at all in Avakov's units? Moreover, Avakov already a couple of times reported violations of the electoral law today. And not just informed, but also threatened that he would not allow anything like that in the future.

Someone forgot where Avakov came from? With whom he taxied in Kharkov? Yes, and the Minister of the Interior, he was largely due to Tymoshenko. The information went unnoticed, but Arsen Avakov has already declared his support for Yulia Tymoshenko in the upcoming elections.

Julia, even without a braid - this is serious


And Avakov is, you know, power. This is not only the police, it is also terbats. Not all. But many who are now sheltered by the Ministry of Internal Affairs. And that were created with money ... But, in general, they are not caught - and there is nothing to say here yet.

But that's not all. Remember such a figure as Yarosh? The same former leader of the "Right Sector" (banned in Russia)? I hope there are no idealists among the readers who believe that Yarosh is no longer radical and does not control the militants? Yes, and in PS he has a fairly strong position.

So, Yarosh also announced support for Tymoshenko. What is not power support? Considering that as part of all these nationalist gangs there are a lot of those who have passed the Donbass, who studied in military camps. Yes, and with weapons there are no problems.



But there is one more party that is persistently hushed up both in Ukraine and in Russia. The party is really serious. I'm about the "Freedom"

It seems to have something to do with "Freedom" for BYuT? The burden will necessarily participate in the presidential campaign. He is a direct competitor of Poroshenko and Tymoshenko.

It would seem, no. But this is only at first glance.

Chance to be elected at the miserable. And he understands that perfectly. Therefore, it uses the maximum possible election campaign to promote its own ideas and "Freedom". The second round, he did not see how his own ears. But what's next?



And then the implementation of its own program. More precisely, the party program. It’s a paradox, but the Freedom party is today in favor of ... the federalization of Ukraine. Yes Yes exactly. And the implementation of this item of the program is possible only with "his" president and "his" Rada.

Now we have to go back to the beginning of the conversation. Who of the real contenders for the presidency will go to the creation of a federal state? Who will vote for the leader of "Freedom" in the second round. The answer, I think, is obvious.

Thus, Galicia will vote for BYuT. Lviv, Khmelnitsky, Ivano-Frankivsk "cut off" the proportional Carpathians. Blocking areas where support for the Hydrant is unconditional. This means that there will be difficulties with the use of administrative resources there. There will be many observers.

These are the "pies" fried today with us. To put it bluntly, risky "pies". And those who are silent today fry them. There is no secret that the success of any election campaign depends largely on the availability of funds. Any chair in politics is worth the money. Nobody hides this fact.

Remember who earned the most during Poroshenko’s presidency? Yes, it was Poroshenko himself who earned it. And the rest of the oligarchs?

Today, among the political elite of our country, there is more and more talk that Poroshenko was one of the organizers and inspirers of the Maidan. Not the richest man at the time of Ukraine. Not the most noticeable on the political horizon of the "revolution".

Remember how many conversations were then about who will lead the "chocolate king". What only surnames were not called. And in the end? As a result, Hydrant is the richest man in Ukraine. All the rest are in the red.

The oligarchs are silent! Akhmetov is silent. Firtash is silent. Even Kolomoisky is silent. Such silence leads to very serious reflections. Not those people to forgive the robbery of their own pockets. But here I can’t write at all with conviction. For me, this area is not entirely closed, but only in terms of what was heard “behind the scenes”.

In general, the presidential campaign will be fun here. Perhaps even before the blood fun. Finance and security cover all serious. The ability to raise people to revolt, too. Understanding that the loser loses everything, too.

Here is such an insect analyst from the Cockroach for you. Maybe it does not fit into the official point of view of politicians from Ukraine and Russia. Maybe controversial somewhere. For those who are not used to reading the fine print on contracts. And there the essence is often hidden!

I promise you a lot of interesting things in this campaign. But what people say is that the elections will be “ours”. And just because everything is rewritten / distorted, 143% for Poroshenko - that will not be allowed.

And, by the way, if Mrs. Yulia says a word about the contract with Putin ... In our center in Ukraine, the memory of her programs for the construction of social housing is still fresh, about the discount programs in her former ATB-Market supermarkets for pensioners ...

So the Hydrant knowingly takes something to Spain by airplanes, oh, not for nothing. For everyone, as they say, the case. Because in Ukraine (and in Ukraine too) everyone is aware that a case, a pig dog, happens to everyone.

So wait for the continuation and collapse in your head of the truthful information from me!
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  1. +2
    25 January 2019 05: 52
    Julia, even without a braid - this is serious

    lol
    Whether with a scythe, or without a scythe ... Tail does not rule the dog, and the Ukrainian elections will not solve Russian problems. Less need to be distracted by "slanting" and "knobby". We are in Russia in them, like in a litter of royms ...
    1. +3
      25 January 2019 06: 02
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Whether with a scythe, without a scythe ...

      But in Ukrainian politicians, whether in the "pre-maid" or in the "post-maid", she's out of the box.

      Quote: ROSS 42
      Ukrainian elections will not solve Russian problems

      If we are talking about purely internal Russian problems, then naturally the key to their solution by no means lies in the plane of relations with the "square", but the elections do not solve the problems of this (Ukrainian) either.
      Whatever the beautiful Russophile president would not have come to power in the upcoming elections, he will be demolished by Natsik.
      And again, that part of the Russian government, pinning ephemeral hopes on changes in the "Independent" after the elections, will remain at a broken trough.
      1. +1
        25 January 2019 06: 51
        There will be no beautiful president there. And Tymoshenko will remain the eternal candidate. She does not like the main manager, Washington.
        1. +1
          25 January 2019 06: 53
          Quote: 210ox
          There will be no beautiful president there. And Tymoshenko will remain the eternal candidate. She does not like the main manager, Washington.

          What is there to judge ... It is generally not clear whether there will be elections.
          1. +1
            25 January 2019 10: 19
            Of course there will be !!!!!!!!!!! Whoever is appointed overseas, that will be chosen. After all, they also have to choose from whom to appoint. Who is more likely to start a war (in their opinion), he will win the election.
        2. 0
          25 January 2019 08: 18
          .It does not suit the main manager-Washington.


          What? Washington does not care, for the sake of Poroshenko, they will not make the people angry with obvious falsification. Tymoshenko will be tied up with loans, like any chosen one ... No, Ukraine is firmly on the hook, you just can't get out of the debt hole. Will do as he is told. Well, except that the Russian oligarchs will fold and buy out at exorbitant prices for her "promissory notes".
          1. 0
            25 January 2019 08: 37
            There is already a "reliable" person .. And they will not change the awl for soap.
            1. +6
              25 January 2019 08: 49
              There is already a "reliable" person .. And they will not change the awl for soap.

              Okay. I'll try to explain it again. Julia is exactly the same "reliable" and on a leash. And Poroshenko has a rating in the plinth area.
              If they choose Yulia, they will bleed off steam for a while, and the picture is beautiful - "democracy", they themselves chose. Why make the crowd angry if the Americans are satisfied with any result?
              The Kremlin will not receive Ukraine, not only because the Americans do not want this. And mainly that Firtash, Kolomoisky, Akhmetov, Yulya and Petya will not fall under the Kremlin’s just like that. Capitalism, push yours into a swing.
              1. 0
                25 January 2019 13: 51
                Reliable!? I agree only partially. She loves all kinds of performance-breakthrough across the border with Mishiko and all that. Yes, and who of the serious Amersan politicians has met her recently? Such are needed only for a while and for a specific purpose, when you need someone topple ..
        3. +5
          25 January 2019 08: 19
          I absolutely do not care what kind of beggar comes to power on the outskirts. The main thing is that the Russian authorities do not start singing "we are sorry, we are sorry!"
    2. +1
      25 January 2019 09: 46
      This is what you need to be inadequate in order to believe a person who was already in power and did nothing for people. It can be seen that the brain of most of the population of Ukraine is already smooth.
      1. 0
        25 January 2019 20: 04
        But actually, no one has believed anyone for a long time! The idea is different, which can soak the current guarantor is understandable and it reassures! The worst thing is the unknown. Therefore, Petya will receive a mace for the next term, I am 51% sure !!!
    3. 0
      25 January 2019 09: 47
      That Julia, that Petya, that someone else, all one Bandera and Natsik.
      1. 0
        25 January 2019 13: 54
        I don’t understand why the previous commentator got the minuses? Is there an adequate contender there? Or does Julia have support on the site?
      2. 0
        25 January 2019 16: 31
        So sho Julia, sho Petya - sho that, sho the other, both are Jews together. laughing
  2. +3
    25 January 2019 05: 56
    Cockroach hello! The first thing I want to say in essence is that you can even put a half-milk goat as a candidate for the throne, but you need to keep your nose downwind - a walker for you is the answer to the question of who will be appointed Gauleiter. With whom the Walker will now communicate, whom Trump may call out of your "candidates", the United States will be seated on the throne, and the elections are so, an imitation of democracy. And what about 60 billion cubic meters of gas, are you kidding? Your transport system has extreme wear in some places! How your pipes still don't burst en masse, that's the miracle! Your gas transportation system urgently needs to be either changed, or closed, and all the gas should be bypassed so that you blackened us less, and, less of it, we used it!
    1. +2
      25 January 2019 06: 13
      Quote: ANCIENT
      Your transport system in some places has supercritical wear! As you have pipes are not torn massively, that's the miracle! Your GTS needs to be urgently or changed, or shut down, and, to bypass all the gas

      It's like that. Only the right cockroach. For the time being, in any case, with such demand in the EU for our gas, the Ukrainians cannot do without the CTA of Ukrainians. We already sell more than can pump everything, even under construction GTS.
      It remains two options, either to use, as necessary, the Ukrainian GTS, or to reduce the production and sale of gas. The second option is only possible theoretically.
      1. +2
        25 January 2019 06: 52
        Cockroach hi A good analysis of the situation, but what about Zelensky? Doesn’t protrude anything?
    2. 0
      25 January 2019 10: 18
      For once, did the pipe break? I don’t remember.
  3. +4
    25 January 2019 06: 08
    One damn thing ... Poroshenko, Tymoshenko or someone else ... there in the power of such a viper gathered worse than our swamp will be.
    1. +3
      25 January 2019 06: 11
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      One hell ... Poroshenko, Tymoshenko or someone else ...

      I'm just sorry for them. Let them fasten, there will still be roofing felts. Until the country is driven into default, the horseradish will calm down, and by hell, who will steer there. hi
      1. +3
        25 January 2019 06: 15
        Quote: Evdokim
        I just condole them.

        For what they fought, they ran into it ... The process cannot be stopped
      2. 0
        25 January 2019 06: 35
        Quote: Evdokim
        Until the country is driven into default, horseradish will calm down

        News FM
        PROGRAM: POINT OF VIEW
        20:05, June 25, 2015
        Default of Ukraine is not profitable for us
        https://radiovesti.ru/brand/60937/episode/1369647/

        He stated the same thing, remember the GDP, seeing the Ukrainian default as a threat to the global economy.
        And on this basis, it clearly follows that neither the USA, nor Europe, nor you will allow the collapse of Ukraine. For it is unprofitable ...
        1. 0
          25 January 2019 06: 46
          Quote: Separ DNR
          And on this basis, it clearly follows that neither the USA, nor Europe, nor you will allow the collapse of Ukraine. For it is unprofitable ...

          So they will give money without end and return. Yes, that was in 2015, and now 2019. Ukraine cannot give%, give a tranche, debt more,% more, so endlessly. hi
          1. BAI
            +1
            25 January 2019 09: 27
            So they will give money without end and return.
            This is Russia’s no return, everything will be returned to the West.
            1. 0
              26 January 2019 12: 29
              Quote: BAI
              This is in Russia without a return

              Yeah
              Quote: BAI
              All will be returned to the West

              Nope, but declared bankrupt only in case of a change in political course
      3. 0
        25 January 2019 10: 27
        Why should they condole ?! They thought (and put this thought into the heads of many, one of them was a cockroach) that their country would be independent of both Russia and the SGA. Only in those minds did the idea never occur that such independence is possible only with a sovereign currency, a developed economy (after all), a strong army and an elite loyal to their country. Where is all this?
        In Russia, a little better, but also not much different. Although industry is gradually building up (it’s a pity that gradually) it is building up and defending interests abroad. True, it is bad with currency, it is not sovereign. And from this we must begin, in the presence of a more or less capable army and an elite loyal to their country. And this will not be enough for Russia.
  4. 0
    25 January 2019 06: 24
    Kolomoisky is not silent, Zelensky is his man
  5. +2
    25 January 2019 07: 15
    Horseradish, radish is not sweeter, but in composition, horseradish contains more sugar laughing
    1. +1
      25 January 2019 07: 46
      Quote: parusnik
      more horseradish in horseradish

      Apparently polysaccharides?
      1. +1
        25 January 2019 08: 04
        And the essence will change?
        1. +2
          25 January 2019 08: 08
          Quote: parusnik
          And the essence will change?

          Obviously not, but it sounds like wink
  6. +1
    25 January 2019 07: 53
    The only candidate who has the opportunity to return to dialogue with Putin is Tymoshenko.

    Is this that vile witch who suggested destroying the Russians and dropping the nucleus-loaf on them? belay
    No, past the cash register. Now there are no politicians in Ukraine with whom the Kremlin would work. Here are criminal cases brought on many, and to build relationships with them, thank you. negative
  7. +2
    25 January 2019 08: 01
    The pipe will be needed until the middle, from force until the end of 2020, when all approaches of the 2nd line of the "SP" and "Turkish Stream" are completely finished, then 10-15 billion will be pumped through the pipe for Slovakia, Moldova and "Ukraine" itself. ... Already this year there was a reduction in the servicing of the Ukrainian gas transportation system, further there will be more, its technical condition is critical, and next year the Power of Siberia gas pipeline comes into operation, gas is also needed there, and Yamal-LNG will also expand. Where the "Ukraine" will take technical gas for pumping is also a question.

    Tymoshenko’s chances are great, but not 100 percent, she will win if she enters the second round only with Poroshenko.

    Poroshenko is completely satisfied with the States, but here's the problem, the people hate him and if he begins to win, a new "Maidan" is not excluded, there is someone to do it, Kolomoisky sleeps and sees how to ditch Poroshenko, and also Firtash, as for Akhmetov, he is great found a common language with him, get rich together.

    I would not rule out Zelensky’s victory, if Poroshenko didn’t qualify for the second round, then Tymoshenko and Zelensky get in there, this will be an interesting situation. Zelensky, a dark horse, announced that it was a creature of Kolomoisky, but in fact he can represent anyone, the same States. As for Tymoshenko, she falls into the second round with a 95% probability.

    It should be noted that the so-called. The "opposition", consisting of Boyko, Rabinovich, Vilkul, Muraev, has completely discredited itself, firstly, by cooperation with the Maidan authorities, and secondly, by its quarrels and inability to nominate a single candidate and go to the elections separately. Boyko has a small chance of getting into the second round with a successful coincidence, the rest - no. But Boyko cannot win.

    The old CIA officers Gritsenko and Nalyvaichenko also have little chance of getting into the second round. They will "play" on the field of Poroshenko and Tymoshenko, that is, they will take away part of their votes. How many, the question is, if there is a lot, then Boyko can go to the second round.

    This is if the elections are fair, i.e. with small falsifications, but I think Tymoshenko and Poroshenko will keep their eyes on each other

    Like that.
    1. -2
      25 January 2019 10: 15
      Bullshit.
      At least in opposition. They just discredited themselves with the support of pro-Russian forces, which they will not forgive. The new trend - big mords already without faces, the Vilkul and smartly constantly threw.
      1. 0
        27 January 2019 07: 49
        Quote: mehan
        they just discredited themselves with the support of pro-Russian forces,

        Well, where is this "support"? They cannot even agree on the nomination of a single candidate. But Boyko, in fact, had a 100% chance of reaching the 2nd round if he was the single opposition candidate. All these poroshenko, tymoshenko, gritsenki, nalivaichenki, lyashki, koshulinsky would steal the votes of adherents of nationalism in different directions, there are no more than 40% of the total number of voters, and maybe even less, having tasted the "charms" of Europe, many have seen the light, and the war tired of everyone to hell.
  8. BAI
    0
    25 January 2019 09: 22
    Gazprom, no matter how he tears a vest on his chest, simply cannot refuse our GTS. A minimum of 60 billion cubic meters will go through Ukraine.

    Absolutely, I always said that and got minuses for it. But at the expense of 60 billion - a moot point.
    SP1 and SP2 will give 110 billion, Belarus - 50, TP (for export to Europe) -15. Total -175. And you need to put 203, plus plans to increase exports. There are 28 left in Ukraine with 40 necessary for profitability.
    At the same time, there is no other way to Italy and will not be in the near future. Gas transportation infrastructure was created over decades and does not change overnight. This is not a hose in the garden to throw from place to place.
    1. -3
      25 January 2019 10: 10
      SP1 gives 25 more inhibitions. SP2, IF you get it, it falls under the same restriction, Europack, there is no getting around. TP, will be in one thread, the second Turks simply do not need and they are not going to invest.
      And what is the bottom line?
    2. 0
      25 January 2019 11: 15
      all the same, transit will be cost-effective through Ukraine.
      Even if the volumes are smaller, they will raise the price of transit, Europe will clearly support this, as this is a matter of common sense in business.
      or introduce a scale for trasit, the more pumped, the cheaper, Gazprom itself will increase.
      This will not affect Europeans' income from SP2 - there the share of Germans is guaranteed to be paid, even if SP2 just stands there.
  9. -4
    25 January 2019 10: 06
    It seems that the author does not just like alcohol, but loves it ....
  10. +1
    25 January 2019 10: 33
    there is still an interesting point: Benya Kolomoisky (who is believed to have defended the East of Ukraine) did not fall under the sanctions of the Russian Federation .... it seems that at that time the Russian Federation simply could not digest the East of Ukraine economically
  11. 0
    25 January 2019 11: 12
    I understand that this is a personal opinion of the Cockroach, but there are other things.
    In my opinion, a lot of people in Ukraine reason like this - and Poroshenko and Tymoshenko are bad.
    But Poroshenko is already a well-known evil, and Tymoshenko still does not know what will do, she has been in the shadows for several years and no one knows her position, and that no one knows her mind.
    The people are tired of any unrest, and just about everything connects them with Tymoshenko.
    Moreover, on the side of Poroshenko a marked improvement in living standards over the past three years. Salary growth doubled.
    Actually, the average salary in Ukraine is closely matched to the average salaries in the Russian outback and is constantly growing.
    the minimum grew three times over three years and almost caught up with the Russian one - 10500 in rubles (average - 23)

    Under Poroshenko, an opportunity appeared for the active part of the population to work in Europe.
    And many of those who scold Poroshenko will actually vote for him, since now there is no real rise in the standard of living, and no one knows what will happen to Tymoshenko.
    With this Tomos, I strongly doubt that he will have a noticeable significance on the election results, either in that direction. Most of this is neither cold nor hot.
    1. 0
      25 January 2019 11: 19
      Poroshenko - the horror of endlessness, but it will still end in a terrible end. Tymoshenko is a terrible end. just under Tymoshenko they will immediately begin to "undress" Petya and K, a war of all against all will begin
      1. 0
        25 January 2019 11: 21
        and that too.
        Most do not want this, tired of it.
        And under Poroshenko there is a steady increase in the standard of living, although many are dissatisfied, which is not fast enough.
        1. 0
          25 January 2019 11: 36
          and here the question is: what is better is a terrible end or the horror of the endless, which all the same will end with a terrible end.
          1. 0
            25 January 2019 11: 39
            it seems like I wrote clearly, under Poroshenko a stable steady increase in the standard of living, explained by the facts, and you all memorize the horror ...
            When the growth of salaries doubled in three years is not terrible. Even if many believe that a little.
            1. 0
              25 January 2019 11: 45
              it is necessary to negotiate to the end, sharply in 2018 they increased the minimum wage, respectively, salaries increased .... but the purchasing power of the population fell
              1. 0
                25 January 2019 11: 52
                you need to return to reality, there is a higher schedule for raising the average salary for three years.
                all three years - steady steady growth with a characteristic increase in the summer, in the harvest season, and in December with premium payments for the year.
                the minimum wage has also been growing since 2016.
                but the purchasing power of the population has fallen

                try to return to reality for a change. fascinating occupation. hi
                1. 0
                  25 January 2019 12: 11
                  a bit wrong, a sharp increase in the minimum wage was for 2017. accordingly, the private sector also raised salaries, but state employees lost in purchasing power, except that the military won. all bonuses were canceled by the same teachers
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                    25 January 2019 12: 34
                    return to reality, and everything will work out hi
              2. 0
                25 January 2019 11: 56
                minimum wage in Ukraine

                from 01.01.2016/30.04.2016/1378 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
                from 01.05.2016/30.11.2016/1450 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
                from 01.12.2016/31.12.2016/1600 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
                from 01.01.2017/31.12.2017/3200 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
                from 01.01.2018/31.12.2018/3723 to XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX XNUMX
                from 01.01.2019 4173

                The dollar exchange rate since the beginning of 2016 is quite stable with slight fluctuations in both directions
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                  25 January 2019 12: 58
                  So I wrote that the increase was sharp in 2017. look at the growth dynamics for the main products from 2016 to 2018. 2-3 times. and I also wrote that the same teachers began to receive less in hryvnias, after the abolition of allowances. The $ yes rate practically does not change
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                    25 January 2019 13: 05
                    no three-fold price increase was close.
                    return to reality from a fantasy world hi
                    1. 0
                      25 January 2019 13: 18
                      in the reality. But the average salary in Kiev was in 2016 in the region of 9000 UAH; it became in the region of 12000 UAH. subject to imitation, purchasing power has decreased. the military has grown
                      1. 0
                        25 January 2019 13: 21
                        and around 86 at Khreshchatyk, how did the salary change? especially on the third entrance?
                        you grab particular from this trying to draw conclusions, which is fundamentally wrong
                        hi
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                        25 January 2019 13: 45
                        I draw conclusions from friends and acquaintances. The military is in the black, teachers have lost. hi
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                        25 January 2019 13: 46
                        did not understand about house 86
        2. 0
          27 January 2019 07: 51
          Quote: Avior
          under Poroshenko there is a steady increase in living standards

          This is, I hope, a "joke" like that?
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            31 January 2019 22: 25
            it is quite a reality.
            all sorts of protests regarding the increase in salaries became very rare, and in reality the average salary has risen very noticeably and is constantly growing.
            but Poroshenko still has a lot of complaints in Ukraine.
    2. 0
      31 January 2019 22: 13
      You pay with your charts for a communal apartment, yeah.
      My dad in Kirovograd (sorry - Kropyvnytskyi) howls with his pension.
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        31 January 2019 22: 28
        I have a retired mother who lives in Eastern Ukraine. A subsidy is such a form of subsidy.
        Communal services should be no more than 10 percent of the pension for pensioners within the limits of consumption norms. Everything else is paid extra. She has no problems with a communal apartment.
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    25 January 2019 12: 11
    Julia wanted to shoot Russians with nuclear weapons. How will our president conduct a dialogue with her? I doubt that the dialogue will turn out.
    But anyway, I think that in Ukraine there will be a president. The hydrant will dump, well, if you have time.
  13. 0
    25 January 2019 13: 24
    We stock up on seeds and observe. Anyway, they will choose the one whom the owners want to see as president.
  14. 0
    25 January 2019 14: 35
    Poroshenko is not the richest man in Ukraine. He is not even in the top three. The richest is Akhmetov. He controls 30 percent of the country's foreign exchange earnings.
    Tymoshenko is a representative of the Dnepropetrovsk mafia clan, once created by Lazarenko. Kolomoisky is a wing of the same clan. In any case, this clan will win either in the form of Tymoshenko or Zelensky. If that Zelensky will easily refuse in favor of Tymoshenko in the second round, giving her votes. Avakov - Kharkov criminal authority, was previously under Tymoshenko. It’s obvious that he agreed with her. Under it - the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Natsik. That is, an internal power resource. Yarosh was kept for 14 years by Beney, his headquarters in Dnepropetrovsk. The right sector is also under Beni. Freedom is his allies. Plus, Poroshenko’s team has an obvious fifth column - the former Yulkiny six Turchynov and Attorney General Lutsenko. Lutsenko, when he was the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, gear on her. By the way, he recently told how he taught her in the zone to transfer the little ones with a kiss. laughing PM both will overrun easily, if they have not already overrun. request
    Well, what about the pig. First of all - SBU. Second gur. Both there and there are full of trained killers who can remove any of his competitors. Thirdly, the National Guard, which, with the exception of several units created from maydaunov, simply hates the Natsiks. Petya put his man at her head. Plus, the army is under his full control. Petr has a power resource. The only question is whether he will risk using it. request In principle, SBU, Gur and VSU can easily crush Natsik and Avakov’s police. But after 2 months, the elections and all those arrested will easily come out as soon as Julia or Vova come to power. Comrade Poroshenko must stupidly remove competitors otherwise he will lose. But whether he dares - xs.
    1. 0
      27 January 2019 07: 57
      Quote: g1v2
      Plus, the army is under his full control.

      Wrong conclusion. In ukroarmii hate Poroshenko. In which case, she could easily surrender him, as everyone had surrendered Yanukovych.
  15. 0
    25 January 2019 16: 24
    Yeah, well, very "seriously". Another talking head in the service of Washington in pursuit of grandmas.
  16. 0
    25 January 2019 17: 24
    I will have my say, because until 2014 I lived in Ukraine (I live in Crimea). It was not for nothing that Yulka was called a populist, she tried to please the voters and therefore really defended the interests of the "plebeians", often contrary to the interests of the oligarchs. For example, with her, my parents' pension was almost doubled, and my relatives finally received and privatized a land plot under a simplified scheme. I do not know her current program, but earlier, even voting for the thief Yanukovych (he promised to defend the Russian language), he had respect for her.
  17. 0
    25 January 2019 17: 25
    There is no difference - Poroshenko or Tymoshenko. Perhaps if Julia becomes the president of Ukraine, it will be even worse for Russia. Yarosh, Avakov and Kolomoisky are the main support of Tymoshenko. The RF is looking for all of them through Interpol. Russia imposed sanctions on Tymoshenko, because such a president of Ukraine does not suit Putin. Although Tymoshenko, like the author of the article, believes that Yulia will establish relations with Russia, but sober politicians do not think so.
  18. +1
    25 January 2019 17: 35
    The elections in Ukraine have long been held in the USA! We have chosen for a long time, but this is just another show, I hope it will do without blood, which I doubt very much .. We are getting ready, men, for the next stream of "refugees" for benefits, etc ...
    Clowns are all the same bloody in Kiev and they can only be squeezed out by tanks ..
  19. 0
    25 January 2019 19: 19
    What does the author carry? —This witch will return the disposition of Russia? —He hates everything Russian even more than Poros.
  20. -1
    25 January 2019 21: 31
    Tarakasha, are you serious? I recognized your slogan from the first line. And then, forgive me, I just flipped through the text without reading. To write about Yulia ... And why not about Lenin? Brezhnev? Andropov? They, too, have long rested in the Bose .... Who does not agree, I offer a bet - if Yulia becomes the President of Dill, we don’t go to the HE website for a year. I bet that will not. Who is against?
  21. 0
    26 January 2019 12: 39
    Cool folk Ukrainians ... guzzle each other. Let them eat. The main thing is not to interfere. :-)
  22. 0
    31 January 2019 22: 20
    I like Julia.
    I voted for her in the 199th year - and I will vote.
    She screwed up the least, at least.