Heavy Russian drone "Hunter" first hit the frame

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Developed in Russia, the heavy assault unmanned aerial vehicle "Hunter" (R & D "Hunter-B") first appeared on the Web. The photo was taken at one of the Russian airfields (presumably at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant).





As expected, the Okhotnik UAV was created according to the “flying wing” scheme. Thanks to this, the machine will have low radar visibility. It is assumed that the mass of new drone will be about 20 tons, and the maximum speed will exceed 1000 km / h.

According to the contract between the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the company "Sukhoi" of 2011, the unmanned aerial vehicle of the new generation should have high autonomy, long range, and also be able to use a wide range of high-precision weapons. The “Hunter” was characterized as an “6-generation unmanned aerial vehicle”, and some of its systems were unified with the Su-57 fighter systems.

Earlier it became known about the successful completion of the ground test cycle of a new UAV, during which it was dispersed to 200 km / h. Currently, the device is being prepared for the first test flight.
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  1. +17
    23 January 2019 20: 27
    Come on! Forward! Although a space component is needed, at least satellite satellites ...
    1. +4
      23 January 2019 20: 36
      someone, I hope, will be s.r.s., it’s strange to see dubious phone videos on this resource ..
      1. +7
        23 January 2019 20: 42
        Yeah .... great-great-grandchildren of Felix are bending someone.
        1. +5
          23 January 2019 22: 26
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          Yeah .... great-great-grandchildren of Felix are bending someone.

          Not more than a couple of days ago we had a discussion here of the initiative of the Duma on the adoption of the Law on the prohibition of the military to use social networks in order to maintain secrecy. laughing Can you pay attention to the media and TV first?
          1. +3
            23 January 2019 22: 52
            ,, can you first pay attention to the media and TV ?,
            That's for sure. Personally, I do not quite understand how secrecy can be observed in our time? Stupidly, any civilian hit in the eye for a smartphone or a phone with a camcorder?
            And about the media and TV, I generally keep quiet ...
            1. +5
              23 January 2019 23: 09
              Who would explain to me one moment.
              When viewing (click on the photo of the drone in this article, and the menu for viewing the series opens) on the last photo is the American drone X-47B. If you look at the inscriptions on it, it becomes clear that this photo is a mirror image of the original photo. Mirroring as an original is a very common occurrence.
              FROM WHERE THE FASHION HAS APPEARED TO SORT THE PICTURE BY MIRRORING?
            2. +2
              24 January 2019 01: 49
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Personally, I do not quite understand how secrecy can be observed in our time? Stupidly, any civilian hit in the eye for a smartphone or a phone with a camcorder?

              When I worked in Severodvinsk on the NSR in the 90s, then naturally, there was a ban on the transport of camera objects. God forbid they find - the conversation will not be pleasant. But now this camera is in everyone’s pocket. What about the privacy mode in this part? What are the regulatory changes? While the questions are unanswered.
              1. GRF
                +6
                24 January 2019 04: 33
                For closed objects without permission, neither with telephones, nor with photo-video, nor with flash drives and with a bunch of other things - lowering.
        2. +1
          24 January 2019 01: 11
          Well, where did you get that? Do you think his profile on the keel of the Su-57 just appeared?
          I can not post a photo.
      2. +14
        23 January 2019 20: 55
        Quote: Aerodrome
        it’s strange to see dubious phone videos on this resource ..

        All the Chinese novelties were photographed in the same style, because of the bushes from a long distance. It seems to me that the leak was intentional, the intrigue is damn.
        It looks like there are no stabilizers and keels on the Hunter.
        1. +1
          23 January 2019 21: 42
          Quote: figvam
          It looks like there are no stabilizers and keels on the Hunter.

          For a hunter to become a hunter, it’s not enough to teach him to accelerate to a concrete speed of 200 km / h in concrete. It is also not enough to teach him how to fly at a given speed in 1000 km / h. We need an arsenal, and to teach this UAV to use it. At the same time, no one has canceled avionics. And if we recall that we live in the days of network-centric wars, then this complex should become part of our VKS with all the consequences. With the ability to go on target designation, conduct reconnaissance, accurately hit targets, and so on ...
          Moreover, perhaps in the future the Hunter will become a deck, which may also be ... and summing up all that has been said, I think the serial hunter UAV Hunter we will see in the best case years through 5, and possibly through 10.
          1. +12
            24 January 2019 04: 32
            Quote: NEXUS
            So that the Hunter becomes the Hunter ...

            Write obvious things for any new weapon model. What for?
            Nobody even says that tomorrow the Hunter will be ready for service.
          2. +2
            24 January 2019 04: 42
            Yes, even so. Do not break the buzz.
          3. 0
            24 January 2019 04: 53
            NEXUS (Andrey) Yesterday, 21: 42
            Moreover, perhaps in the future the Hunter will become decked, which may also be

            doubtful. With its thrust-to-weight ratio, a catapult launch is needed, not a springboard
          4. -5
            24 January 2019 08: 59
            In order for the Hunter to become a Hunter, it is only necessary to carefully tear the components and accessories from the Amer drone, which the Iranians somehow planted. Here is the secret to success.
          5. +2
            24 January 2019 09: 17
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: figvam
            It looks like there are no stabilizers and keels on the Hunter.

            So that the Hunter becomes the Hunter.

            Captain obvious lol
        2. +6
          23 January 2019 21: 57
          Quote: figvam
          It looks like there are no stabilizers and keels on the Hunter.

          Written by Russian
          UAV "Hunter" created according to the "flying wing"
          Or did you just look at the picture without reading?
          1. +2
            23 January 2019 22: 41
            Quote: orionvitt
            Or did you just look at the picture without reading?

            A flying wing does not have a tail, but there may be keels.
            Very similar to a hunter.
            1. +1
              24 January 2019 08: 03
              This product appeared on the network in 2011 in France on Le Bourget.
            2. -1
              25 January 2019 07: 57
              Where is the pilot's place?
              1. 0
                27 January 2019 15: 47
                in the next building, the UAV :)
    2. +37
      23 January 2019 20: 36
      "Buran" was once lifted into space and it landed on its own, making two attempts to land. The school has remained and it is working, so that the "Hunter" will be brought to mind. Good journey to heaven !!! good
      1. +15
        23 January 2019 20: 52
        Quote: Egorovich
        "Buran" was once lifted into space and it landed on its own, making two attempts to land. The school has remained and it is working, so that the "Hunter" will be brought to mind. Good journey to heaven !!! good

        Considering that an unmanned aircraft is much technologically simpler than a "pilot" spacecraft that flew into space in unmanned mode, then 33 times of luck! I think our designers can do it! good drinks
      2. 0
        24 January 2019 04: 52
        Well, why are you so. Shuttles do not have second attempts, because they sit in glide mode with the engine off. It's just that "Buran" flew around the "ball" twice, and that's it ... And to the Hunter - a long and smart flight! hi
    3. +2
      23 January 2019 20: 37
      It is estimated that the mass of the new drone will be about 20 tons. (from text)
      Is the mass for the drone too much (20 tons)? belay Even if the Su-57 aircraft, on the basis of which this drone was created, weighs 18,5 tons (though empty). Slippery information. what
      1. +8
        23 January 2019 20: 42
        Good luck and good luck!
      2. +6
        23 January 2019 20: 49
        Quote: Proxima
        If even the Su-57 plane, on the basis of which this drone is as if created

        Is it? The Su-57 is fundamentally different, for example, the fighter's glider is not designed according to the "flying wing" scheme
        1. +9
          23 January 2019 20: 53
          Most likely they have a lot in common in internal nodes
        2. +2
          23 January 2019 21: 02
          Quote: The Mighty Duckling
          Quote: Proxima
          If even the Su-57 plane, on the basis of which this drone is as if created

          Is it? The Su-57 is fundamentally different, for example, the fighter's glider is not designed according to the "flying wing" scheme

          The "pilot" plane is a flying home for the pilot. It should be a priori heavier (for obvious reasons) than its unmanned counterpart. What does the glider have to do with it?
      3. +16
        23 January 2019 20: 54
        On Paralay, the size is adjusted relative to the silhouette on keel 053 of the prototype Su-57
        1. +15
          23 January 2019 21: 43
          Quite interesting pictures of the Russian fighter of the 5 generation of the Su-57, or more precisely, the flight model of the T-50-3, are published on the Internet. The pattern of the drone on the keel, as well as the camouflage pattern on the "belly" of the aircraft, which repeats the silhouette of the developed heavy UAV "Hunter", suggest that this Su-57 is used in the interests of research on the project "Hunter-B".
          It can also be concluded that the T-50-3 is used as a test bench for on-board electronic equipment for the new drone.
          1. 0
            24 January 2019 12: 34
            It is very interesting, it seems that they will act in conjunction, 57th for air targets, and the hunter for ground-based air defense nightmares.
            1. +3
              24 January 2019 22: 15
              As I understand it, initially the Su-57 was like an academy for the "Hunter" - a machine on which some systems and units were worked out, which will be used by the UAV in the future.
              use the Su-57 as "senior flock"- also an interesting thing, but, as for me, a two-seater modification is needed - one pilot, in principle, will not be able to control the aircraft in a combat situation and direct the" charges "to the target.
              recourse or, as an option, on the "Drying" there should be very reasonable artificial intelligence (and who knows what capabilities of the 5th generation machines request )
              1. +1
                24 January 2019 22: 43
                by the way, here is a photo of the camouflage scheme on the "belly" of the Su-57, which repeats the silhouette of the "Hunter"

                in comparison with
        2. 0
          24 January 2019 03: 17
          Quote: Voyager
          fitted


          This is possibly a keyword.

          In principle, I do not pretend to be anything.
      4. +4
        23 January 2019 22: 02
        Quote: Proxima
        Su-57 aircraft, on the basis of which this drone was created

        There is not a word about this in the article. They wrote that
        part of its systems are unified with the systems of the Su-57 fighter.
        Base and unification are two different things.
        1. +3
          23 January 2019 22: 13
          Quote: orionvitt
          part of its systems are unified with the systems of the Su-57 fighter.
          Base and unification are two different things.

          Yes you are right. Well, where is the tonnage so big? belay Is this a lot of empty? - Normal take-off weight? - Maximum take-off weight? request But these characteristics can vary almost twice! fellow We are just guessing at the coffee grounds - the cat wept for information. crying It is unlikely that this is a fundamentally new aircraft, and not created on the basis of already developed. hi
          1. +1
            23 January 2019 22: 16
            Quote: Proxima
            We are just guessing at the coffee grounds - the cat wept for information.

            Totally agree with you. We discuss only the information that is in the article. There is no other.
      5. +1
        24 January 2019 00: 53
        Quote: Proxima
        Is the mass for the drone too much (20 tons)?

        Well, half-80-tk by weight will be, however. And a shock drone, after all, and not a probe with a motor. It must be assumed that the striking power he will have to match the mass, not a flying tank, but there are other laws at the top.
      6. 0
        24 January 2019 22: 34
        Are you sure that we are talking about a "dry" mass of a UAV? There is every reason to believe that this is classified information. For now, anyway.
    4. +1
      23 January 2019 21: 02
      Although a space component is needed, at least satellite satellites ...

      You march one of the creators
      And you know what "Hunter" has and what doesn't. Didn't you give a nondisclosure agreement?
    5. 0
      23 January 2019 21: 57
      apparatus ---- a trifle, but nice
      1. +5
        23 January 2019 23: 07
        Quote: antivirus
        apparatus ---- a trifle, but nice

        Only a few countries around the world can afford this "trifle". The hunter is not just a UAV, there are interesting things hidden under the dry wording "to have increased autonomy". The Americans are also working hard on such machines, and so far they are ahead, but the Hunter on Takeoff gives hope.
  2. +4
    23 January 2019 20: 27
    Looks like not all mobile phone cameras were taken away from all the warriors!
    1. +7
      23 January 2019 20: 34
      Quote: Ironclad
      Looks like not all mobile phone cameras were taken away from all the warriors!

      Forgive me, but the plant does not belong to the Ministry of Defense, it passes through a different ministry ... and so far this "airplane" is not even a military one. Here the "security workers of the company" "gave bream"
    2. +5
      23 January 2019 20: 36
      Ironclad (Vitali)
      Looks like not all mobile phone cameras were taken away from all the warriors!
      You might think they were shooting from the bushes laughing Most likely this is a "breaking" post of the USSR's all secrecy. An intentional leak. And I'm glad of that. Because you need to be proud of your military equipment. And not "we have this! But it's secret" Looks solid. Let's see how to teach this bird to fly.
      The “Hunter” was characterized as a “6th generation unmanned aerial vehicle,” and part of its systems were unified with the systems of the Su-57 fighter.
      This is very serious. Very. good
      The Americans of the 6th generation of their fighter planes were just about to invent. And here you are. Unmanned version of the Su 57 at level 5
      1. +8
        23 January 2019 21: 01
        Quote: Observer2014
        Americans of the 6th generation of their fighter planes just going to invent

        Something similar flies at them ..
        1. +4
          23 January 2019 21: 10
          figwam (Sergei)
          Something similar flies at them ..
          Only by form. But it’s not even close to unification with F22 and F35. Ours went around them on the turn. But about the money for how much is enough, and so on. Etc. This is sorry, another question.
          1. +3
            23 January 2019 21: 11
            Quote: Observer2014
            Only by form. But there is no close approach to unification with F22 and F35.

            This is not necessary for them, they have a lot of money.
        2. 0
          23 January 2019 21: 11
          Judging by the chassis, the Hunter is small.
          1. +3
            23 January 2019 21: 15
            rruvim (Novel)
            Judging by the chassis, the Hunter is small.
            Truth? Is there anything that his chassis is from the Su 57? There above just the picture was published in the comments.

            laughing
            1. +1
              23 January 2019 21: 25
              And I thought "pulled". Means big request
        3. 0
          24 January 2019 12: 51
          Already does not fly. Funding was discontinued back in 2005, both X-45s were transferred to museums.
    3. +3
      23 January 2019 20: 49
      Most likely, the leak was intentional or at least not forbidden
  3. +3
    23 January 2019 20: 30
    Eeeh, but when the USSR, by drones, was ahead of the rest, and now ...
    1. +6
      23 January 2019 21: 25
      MQ "Predator", 1994d. This year in new Russia there were drones only from the legacy of the USSR. For example, "Flight" or "Wing-2". There were no others, except that the Swifts, the ancestors of the Reis, were in storage. The complexes had several ground units, all dimensional. For example, "Wing-2" kept its airplanes on the base of the MTLB light tank. Radio control stations and laboratories for processing received signals are all at URAL. Communication channels were susceptible to detection as a source of radio waves. Not a single one had the properties of an attack drone, only intelligence, and the release of leaflets was already the work of political workers.
      1. +3
        23 January 2019 22: 53
        Quote: Evgenijus
        Radio control stations and laboratories for processing received signals are all on URALs.


        In the latest versions, the radars were driven to us on the basis of the GTS. Beautiful contraption, in a fashionable cap - a ball.
        Quote: Evgenijus
        None had the properties of a strike drone, only intelligence,


        Well, except in cases where instead of AKFU they were placed under the fairing of the NBC. Like it or not, this was more a cruise missile than the current UAV. Speed ​​under 800 km / h on the marching section.
        This is me about "Flights".
      2. +2
        24 January 2019 05: 40
        Participated in drone drills in 1987 in Mongolia. While flying over the control point, one of them made an emergency landing (a "slide", a parachute, a team of evacuators, of course a special officer). Before the arrival of the team, they had to protect this "contraption" (I assume "Flight") from the locals (a big beautiful orange-white parachute), which flopped down among the salt marsh. Upon examination and from the conversation of the drone specialists, I saw and heard that in the warhead there is a compartment with a lead ingot weighing 80 kg, which in real combat conditions is replaced by a warhead. So drones in the USSR, I suppose, were intended not only for television, photographic and radio intelligence ...
  4. +4
    23 January 2019 20: 32
    The photo was taken at one of the Russian airfields (presumably at the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant).
    Well, well, I hope that I will live to see the photos of production cars ...
    1. -4
      23 January 2019 20: 43
      Sergei hi -to live to see the photo, and live to see the day when you can see with your own eyes -2 huge differences! The partisans made the bushes out of the bushes, but he still hadn’t seen the sky! By the time they are adopted, it will become hopelessly outdated.
      1. +1
        23 January 2019 20: 54
        Quote: ANCIENT
        The guerrillas took photos from the bushes,

        And most importantly, he hit the profile so well, without highlighting anything superfluous.
        1. +3
          23 January 2019 21: 11
          Anyway, it’s somehow muddy, why this incomprehensible throw-in, of course, we really look forward to the appearance of our drummer ...
        2. AUL
          +3
          23 January 2019 21: 29
          Quote: MyVrach
          Quote: ANCIENT
          The guerrillas took photos from the bushes,

          And most importantly, he hit the profile so well, without highlighting anything superfluous.

          Actually, full face. It looks solid. Good luck to him!
        3. 0
          24 January 2019 05: 05
          This is not a profile. This is full face.
  5. +1
    23 January 2019 20: 44
    Apparently in the "face" of the radar. I wonder which one?
  6. 0
    23 January 2019 20: 47
    Wow, do you need PACK YES now? smile
    1. +3
      23 January 2019 20: 53
      Needed! No drone can handle a real enemy. AI only in science fiction novels. We need people. And the current drones are only against the "banana" States.
      1. +5
        23 January 2019 20: 56
        Aircraft with AI - an inevitable future, no matter how fantastic it may seem. But here the point is rather that PAK YES and this UAV are completely different devices with different goals.
    2. +1
      24 January 2019 05: 15
      PAK DA is being developed to replace the Tu-95 and Tu-160, and this is a completely different weight category with a very long flight range. Strategist, in a word. And he, in general, is needed.
    3. +1
      24 January 2019 08: 07
      Of course, the range is strikingly different. PAK YES is strategic, Hunter has operational.
  7. +1
    23 January 2019 20: 51
    Earlier it became known about the successful completion of the ground test cycle of a new UAV, during which it was dispersed to 200 km / h. Currently, the device is being prepared for the first test flight.

    If in 2019 there will be a first flight, then in a series at best in 5 years, and most likely later. Although it's better than nothing
    1. -6
      23 January 2019 21: 03
      Let's wait five years, although during this time even Spike Firefly will destroy all our "Shells" in Syria ...
  8. +2
    23 January 2019 21: 02
    With such a mass ... It is quite possible to squeeze the pilot into this drone.
    1. +1
      24 January 2019 09: 57
      Quote: mavrus
      With such a mass ... It is quite possible to squeeze the pilot into this drone.

      Well, please tell me why in an aircraft that is unmanned in design and purpose, then squeeze the pilot request Isn’t it easier to land, rather than squeeze the pilot into a manned aircraft, in which there is initially a cockpit for the pilot what Or your comment, in my opinion, completely meaningless, just for the sake of the comment itself, and even awarded a couple of pluses belay along the way from the same specialists in aviation. Yes ..., the people are shallowing ...., "sad, girls" (c)
  9. 0
    23 January 2019 21: 03
    Quote: The Mighty Duckling
    Most likely, the leak was intentional or at least not forbidden

    For what purpose? lol
  10. +1
    23 January 2019 21: 09
    Wow 20 tons, is it about 10 combat load he will have?
  11. -9
    23 January 2019 21: 29
    And someone did not believe that Russia had risen from its knees! Checkmate - Americans! It has already accelerated to 200 km / h, and they did not even have a horse lying around.
    1. 0
      24 January 2019 05: 24
      Read here to miss more sleepers:
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_X-47B#Тактико-технические_характеристики
      1. +1
        24 January 2019 08: 56
        They already have Northrop Grumman X-47C on the way (
        1. 0
          24 January 2019 08: 58
          Well, I, in fact, almost about it ...
  12. +2
    23 January 2019 21: 29
    Hurry up! And the main thing is that, in the troops entered not in the amount of 1-5 pcs.!
    In the photo, from the front projection, something similar to the glazing of the cabin is visible)) Is this an air intake?
    1. +2
      24 January 2019 05: 27
      Yes. This is precisely the air intake.
  13. +1
    23 January 2019 21: 32
    Overstepped the 6th generation. People need to be protected, focus on the sixth generation.
    1. +4
      23 January 2019 21: 47
      But where did you see the 6th generation here ...
      1. +2
        23 January 2019 22: 02
        6th, everything will be unmanned and large, from 20 tons, by the way, China, by the way, also noted a good drone this morning.
        1. +5
          23 January 2019 22: 05
          The appearance of the 6th generation has not yet been determined, but it has already been stated that among the parameters should be hypersound. Now we only have an airplane designed according to the scheme of a flying wing, without a pilot on board and, most likely, unified for the most part with the Su-57.
          1. -1
            23 January 2019 22: 38
            Hypersound is the Vanguard, and the predator will be the 6th generation, already decided.
            1. +1
              24 January 2019 00: 20
              Who decided when?

              Vanguard is a missile system, not a plane.
      2. +2
        24 January 2019 06: 03
        Yes, from what is listed on the Wiki:
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Истребитель_шестого_поколения
        this machine can only expect 4 qualities of a 6th generation fighter out of 8 existing (according to Wikipedia):
        - extreme stealth (improved stealth technology);
        - highly integrated network capabilities;
        - very sensitive sensors;
        - Fighter piloting optional.
        They promise to work on high speed, but there is a problem. The fact is that for stealth you need to use composites, and for super speeds such very radio-noticeable materials as titanium and stainless steel. It is possible, of course, to use composites based on carbon, but these are very high technologies and, as a result, are very expensive. Airframe elements made of carbon were once on the Shuttles. Will someone ever need such a "golden" 6th generation fighter? I dont know. Time, apparently, will once again put everything in its place.
    2. +2
      24 January 2019 05: 31
      Whoever said anything from the "partners", but the Su-57 is a real representative of the 5th generation of fighters. We don't jump over stairs.
  14. +2
    23 January 2019 21: 39
    But it doesn’t look bad ... laughing
    From the chassis alone, it’s already clear that the colossus is serious.
  15. +20
    23 January 2019 21: 40
    full-size photo

    1. NKT
      +3
      23 January 2019 22: 05
      I wonder why the inscription in English?
      1. +2
        24 January 2019 00: 25
        Because this is the name of the user who posted this photo on his instagram.
      2. +1
        24 January 2019 00: 43
        Quote: NKT
        Why is the inscription in English?

        If you are talking about @fighter_bomber, then there is such an author on Instagram. Informatively writes.
    2. 0
      24 January 2019 02: 14
      the prototype looked different
      1. +1
        24 January 2019 17: 28
        It’s like a ramp, a project already closed.
  16. +1
    23 January 2019 21: 52
    Yes, about the Su-57 we were also fed with news for many years that the best fighter in the world is almost ready, and it’s such a wonderful and kind, well, and after 9 years of testing and refinement it turns out that mass production is not planned for many years, but after that it’s already out of date, so all this news about the tests doesn’t mean anything, as there will be at least a few dozen then there will be something to discuss
    1. +3
      24 January 2019 05: 27
      and after that it’s already out of date, so all this news about the tests means nothing,

      Enough to howl at the moon about "obsolete" !!! The American F-16 was developed in the early 70s, 45 years later, one of the most massive combat fighters. The glider itself is successful, and the filling is adjusted to the requirements in the modifications. And you get: which thread of the throttle is outdated - that's it, kaput, write off the plane for scrap negative
      Time was spent on the F-22 (from the launch of the ATF program to the start of serial deliveries) more time was spent than so far on the implementation of the T-50 / Su-57 program
  17. +3
    23 January 2019 22: 01
    It would be more likely to see the video and launch in a series.
  18. +7
    23 January 2019 22: 03
    I do not understand what is the sixth generation? You don’t understand what the backlog of electronics is, now maybe a little caught up to the level of the fourth generation of Americans, there are no radars, engines too, well, I hope in aerodynamics at least they did normally
    1. 0
      24 January 2019 00: 24
      Caught up with the 5th with their Raptor, but he is already in some ways ancient. But in general, your message is correct, I agree.
    2. 0
      24 January 2019 06: 11
      There is life in the old dog yet.
    3. 0
      24 January 2019 08: 11
      And what is there to catch up? Much of what is being developed for the Su-57 will be installed on this UAV. That is, the necessary electronics has almost been created. It's up to the software.
  19. +2
    23 January 2019 22: 06
    God help you!
  20. 0
    23 January 2019 23: 19
    I wonder what engine they want for him.
    1. +6
      24 January 2019 06: 57
      Quote: rzzz
      I wonder what engine they want for him.

      Fiery.
    2. Kaw
      0
      24 January 2019 20: 12
      AL-41F1 from Su-57, and later they want to deliver the product 30.
  21. +1
    23 January 2019 23: 54
    Quote: mlad
    I do not understand what is the sixth generation? You don’t understand what the backlog of electronics is, now maybe a little caught up to the level of the fourth generation of Americans, there are no radars, engines too, well, I hope in aerodynamics at least they did normally


    When Belenko stole the MIG-25th in Japan, the Americans gutted him to the last screw before returning us. Then a corresponding report was made, which in a nutshell sounded like this: we will not be able to make engines and a glider like ours for another twenty years, but the electronics are just cave-like. The office somewhere stole a copy of this report and circulated it to those of our research institutes, which it directly concerned. My friend then worked in one of them, was engaged in infrared guidance systems, and from him information.
    1. 0
      24 January 2019 06: 26
      It would be much worse if this bastard flew to some of the modifications of the MiG-25R reconnaissance, and not to the interceptor.
  22. 0
    24 January 2019 01: 56
    The ice has broken, gentlemen! It will be interesting to see the nomenclature of armaments. What is remarkable, with the American model of this class they go head to head. They have a stealth-shock drone that only performs test flights.
    1. +1
      24 January 2019 10: 10
      Quote: shinobi
      .What's remarkable, with the American model of this class they go head to head. They have a stealth-shock drone only performing test flights.
      They flew them ten years ago
      1. -1
        28 January 2019 01: 56
        Traitors are not invisible.
  23. -1
    24 January 2019 03: 00
    Quote: Proxima
    It is estimated that the mass of the new drone will be about 20 tons. (from text)
    Is the mass for the drone too much (20 tons)? belay Even if the Su-57 aircraft, on the basis of which this drone was created, weighs 18,5 tons (though empty). Slippery information. what

    Don’t be dumb ... fuel for long stay and thrust-to-weight ratio
  24. +1
    24 January 2019 03: 15
    the device is preparing for the first test flight.

    I will look into the sky.

    From Novosibirsk to you all hi
  25. -6
    24 January 2019 03: 28
    Quote: _Ugene_
    Yes, about the Su-57 we were also fed with news for many years that the best fighter in the world is almost ready, and it’s such a wonderful and kind, well, and after 9 years of testing and refinement it turns out that mass production is not planned for many years, but after that it’s already out of date, so all this news about the tests doesn’t mean anything, as there will be at least a few dozen then there will be something to discuss

    And moreover, why doesn’t any foreign buyer need it ... but on paper ... uhhh ... 9th generation ... like a girik with 600 to 700 ... and in fact the schoolchildren armored schoolchildren on aircraft models .. .
  26. -5
    24 January 2019 03: 32
    Quote: NordUral
    It would be more likely to see the video and launch in a series.

    Rather, you will see a pension of 70-75 ... the armata in 2014 swept ... apparently like talking to robots ... they made a cape
  27. +1
    24 January 2019 06: 04
    Probably twin-engine, one such will not pull.
    1. 0
      24 January 2019 08: 12
      No, single engine. AL-41, such as on the Su-57, only without afterburner.
  28. +2
    24 January 2019 07: 09
    Planned discharge of information from mines of defense
  29. 0
    24 January 2019 10: 36
    6th generation FAVORITES good gift !!! That's how everything is being done and is being done in such a way that the West and the USA have a long way to go.
    1. +4
      24 January 2019 12: 45
      Northrop is already in the series, flies with AB, gets on AB, refuel in the air.


      Impact weapons - 2 + tons.

      Well, you yourself even know who - spoke about him.
  30. -1
    24 January 2019 10: 44
    Quote: Warrior StillTot

    Don’t be dumb ...
    Reply


    Listen, spicy, filter the market. More polite with people, more delicate. hi
  31. 0
    24 January 2019 12: 55
    Well, that light fighter of the 5th generation appeared on the horizon, though with elements of the 6th generation (unmanned aerial vehicles). That's why the purchase of the Su-57 was cut a little. Here is more about Hunter. http://in24.org/technology/34883 http://in24.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cxaZkeGh6hQ.jpg
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  33. +2
    24 January 2019 12: 59
    it is possible to estimate about the sizes


    1. 0
      24 January 2019 13: 21
      http://in24.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/cxaZkeGh6hQ.jpg
      Hunter scheme: The internal compartments will be able to carry two medium-range air-to-surface x-50 missiles.
      1. 0
        24 January 2019 14: 31
        The height of the K-700 is 3.2m, by the way. Therefore, the "scheme" is nothing more than a version.
    2. +1
      24 January 2019 20: 16
      Beautiful animal.
      God bless the creators.
  34. 0
    24 January 2019 13: 34
    How will this car sit - not according to RSP-10? In the US, automatic UAV landing is implemented, because with manual control there is a high risk of operator errors.
  35. 0
    24 January 2019 14: 09
    Quote: Gritsa
    When I worked in Severodvinsk on the NSR in the 90s,

    I started after school (like everyone else in the area) the road to Mekh.zavod, the 70s, they ground mine 75, 120, and there was secrecy ... my mother did not grieve.
  36. 0
    24 January 2019 15: 03
    good news
  37. 0
    24 January 2019 16: 19
    On all-angle stealth scored. On stealth in the infrared in the rear hemisphere - specifically scored. But it will be spinning in the air like a UFO.
  38. Kaw
    0
    24 January 2019 20: 07
    Judging by the tractor standing nearby, it is not inferior in size to the B-2.
  39. 0
    24 January 2019 21: 03
    Aviation expert, honored military pilot Vladimir Popov, said that the unmanned S-70 Okhotnik will become a strike aircraft, which is closer to fifth-generation aircraft.

    “This strike aircraft will be designed as a transitional option from the fifth to the sixth generation. And therefore, it has an AL-41F engine, all-mode. The aircraft will be able to intercept air targets and evade air defense systems, and will be able to strike at ground and sea targets, ”Nation News reports.

    He noted that the project will be divided into several stages, “Hunter” will be a multifunctional aircraft. A feature of the unmanned aircraft Popov called its layout.

    “A little finalized, and he can land on functional airfields. Still finalized - performs interceptor tasks. Still finalized - performs percussion tasks. Block parts will change there. Today is one option, tomorrow there will be an option that will destroy anti-tank armor, ”said the pilot.

    It is in these properties that the design feature of such models lies, Popov summarized.
  40. 0
    25 January 2019 10: 32
    "The maximum speed will exceed 1000 km / h." Is he supersonic?
  41. 0
    25 January 2019 16: 43
    The cost of Su57 and the Armata family for the Russian budget is breathtaking. Are these products needed in large quantities for Russia? If so, for what purpose?
    About the machine gun. Well, that's fine. Everyone constantly finishes the technique.
  42. 0
    26 January 2019 21: 52
    Quote: Sea Cat
    Quote: mlad
    I do not understand what is the sixth generation? You don’t understand what the backlog of electronics is, now maybe a little caught up to the level of the fourth generation of Americans, there are no radars, engines too, well, I hope in aerodynamics at least they did normally


    When Belenko stole the MIG-25th in Japan, the Americans gutted him to the last screw before returning us. Then a corresponding report was made, which in a nutshell sounded like this: we will not be able to make engines and a glider like ours for another twenty years, but the electronics are just cave-like. The office somewhere stole a copy of this report and circulated it to those of our research institutes, which it directly concerned. My friend then worked in one of them, was engaged in infrared guidance systems, and from him information.

    I could be very mistaken, but it sounded about electronics that, in spite of the "cavernous nature", this electronics performed all the functions assigned to it in full. (Source "Wings of the Motherland", I don't remember the year and number)

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