Defense Ministry revealed some characteristics of the rocket 9М729

The Department of Defense revealed the characteristics of the 9М729 rocket, which allegedly violates, in the opinion of the United States, the provisions of the treaty on the elimination of medium and short-range missiles. Some of the characteristics of the rocket were given during a briefing for military attaches of foreign countries and the media.

During the briefing, the Chief of the Missile Forces and Artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Mikhail Matveyevsky, made a statement. According to him, this range of the missile was confirmed during the joint command-staff exercises Zapad-9.

Unlike the base rocket 9М728, the new rocket contains combat equipment of increased power and a new onboard control complex, which improves the accuracy of hitting the target. During the modernization of the rocket "grew" on 53 cm, which was, respectively, the reason for increasing the launch container to the same length. In addition, a new launcher has been created for the 9М729 rocket, which houses four, not two, rockets.

The general stressed that the 9М728 and 9М729 missiles are manufactured exclusively under factory conditions and it is impossible to refuel the missiles under military conditions, namely, the maximum constructive flight range in 480 km depends on the mass of fuel, which meets all the conditions of the INF. For a further flight, the rocket simply does not have enough fuel, he added.

Recall that Washington accused Moscow of violating the treaty precisely because of the 9М729 rocket, which was allegedly tested for a greater range than claimed in Russia. In this case, the United States can not explain where they have such information, in every possible way evading the answer to this question.

Comments

[Zaurbek]

Are there any locks on Iskander that could not use the standard Caliber?

[Zubr]

Are there any locks on Iskander that could not use the standard Caliber?

What kind of standard caliber are you talking about?

[Aerodrome]

Defense Ministry revealed some characteristics of the rocket 9М279

what can I say ... that's how much money, you refuel the car, and you drive so much ... stay away, and everything will be OK.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Zaurbek

Are there any locks on Iskander that could not use the standard Caliber?

But what, are these missiles made unified and control systems suitable for exchanging missiles? (I still do not ask about mass dimensions!)

[Piramidon]

Quote: Zaurbek

Are there any locks on Iskander that could not use the standard Caliber?

Caliber and Iskander are two different systems. You could ask how to block a Kalashnikov assault rifle so that it was impossible to shoot 23 mm shells from it.

[Zaurbek]

There are two (fundamentally) X-101 and Caliber cruise missiles in the country ..... did something special for the Iskander?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Zaurbek

did something special for the iskander?

But what, you can stupidly charge the caliber in the iskander and bullet? How simple it is for you.

[Zaurbek]

I think program warheads are also specific.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Zaurbek

There are two (fundamentally) X-101 and Caliber cruise missiles in the country ..... did something special for the Iskander?

And the iskander that in the picture is not even winged ... something like that)))

[Zaurbek]

I mean, that nobody will do a special rocket and units specifically for Iskander ... I can do the GOS, warheads can ..... but these are variations on the topic.

[Vadim237]

Yes, there are no locks to use 3M14 - 9M729 even in size, which means the same product in terms of weight, they even have the same starting ones.

[Wedmak]

53 see discord and ridiculous accusations.

[Zubr]

53 see discord and ridiculous accusations.

Well, in short, they have 53 cm .... but we have more .. here and rage ...

[widower]

Quote: Zubr

Well, in short, they have 53 cm .... but we have more .. here and rage ...

Not certainly in that way

[widower]

Quote: Wedmak

53 cm of contention and ridiculous accusations

Yes, most likely they don’t know about these centimeters

[soul]

In the previous news, it was said that the US exit from the INF Treaty is already final and irrevocable. This disclosure of product features is useless and will not affect the US position.

[NEXUS]

Range in 480 km can be doubled if you halve the base. Another question is that on the new Iskander there will be not 2, but 4 PU, ... then this is no longer the Macedonian, since Alexander the Great had only two horns on his helmet, and not 4.

In addition, a new launcher has been created for the 9M279 missile, which houses four, not two, missiles.

[Wedmak]

Yes, it looks impressive.

[bayard]

On the net there was a picture of a PU with 6 containers. So 4 is not the limit.

[Zubr]

Yes, it looks impressive.

Yes, it inspires respect.

On the net there was a picture of a PU with 6 containers. So 4 is not the limit.

Yes, I think so precisely because of the amount of PU in the car and all the fuss. And then on 53 cm lengthened.
Oh, here's another thought I have, most likely they still made a tandem warhead, the first cumulative, so that the main warhead went deeper, the high-impact effect from such a solution would be much higher. And then they increased the accuracy. You can imagine that all of their ZKP and missile defense launchers will have a full corek. Well it is, thinking aloud. Looks like mattresses, very closely watched the tests of this rocket, now the satellite reconnaissance group allows you to see a lot. Or maybe intelligence intelligence, I also do not rule out that.

[soul]

Quote: bayard

On the net was a photograph of a PU with 6 containers. So 4 is not the limit

Yes, through Photoshop not yet shown! Remember the Coalition:

[bayard]

The real photo (top-side) was provided by someone on our site a few months ago. Everything fits perfectly into the dimensions. Or do you think that for such a "box" two (and even 4 containers) are optimal? They tried not to show the full ammunition load for humane purposes - so as not to worry "partners / patients". The internal volume of the PU / conveyor is designed just for 6 containers, both Onyx and possible calibers ... well, the winged Iskander.

[soul]

I also think that in terms of carrying capacity and dimensions, 4 containers on the chassis will stand up. Just did not meet such information. So I suggested - that photoshop

[Vadim237]

Club M, ammunition 3M14

[bolt]

Quote: Wedmak

Yes, it looks impressive.

Inspires really. Only this is the Club-M coastal missile system with 3M-14KE cruise missiles to destroy surface and ground targets at a maximum range of up to 450 km.

Photo from "MAKS - 2007".

[bayard]

It is in such a PU that the sea "Caliber" will rise, as we celebrate the commemoration of the INF Treaty. There is no need to design anything new - the dimensions are maintained, the containers are unified. "Comrades for work" - as Comrade Brezhnev said.

[Wedmak]

Yes ... hmm .. but how similar are the PU and TPK. However, somewhere I saw on the network, a car similar to Iskander-K with 4 square TPK. I can not find this picture - either a photo, or a render / photoshop.

[Zubr]

Yes there was such a RK-55 Relief. Destroyed at the dawn of its arming.

Well, the Bastion is very similar to it. And even more so, I look at the photo and immediately think, there you can put more rockets .. The sit is here..

[Wedmak]

Nah, not him. The photo was from bottom to top at the very same TPK. Moreover, the TPK is square.

[bayard]

There was a photo of the same package of six TPKs, but in a conveyor for the Onyx. Exactly six. And such ammunition for Bastion and Iskander is optimal.

[bolt]

Quote: Wedmak

Yes ... hmm .. but how similar are the PU and TPK. However, somewhere I saw on the network, a car similar to Iskander-K with 4 square TPK. I can not find this picture - either a photo, or a render / photoshop.

Well, yes ... The rocket "... turned out to be the wrong system."

[AUL]

Quote: Wedmak

Yes, it looks impressive.

Something is not very similar to the TPK for Iskander - the proportions are not the same!

[Wedmak]

Already found out that I was wrong with the photo.

[voyaka uh]

Impressive ... But such things, because of which the Politburo of the CPSU Central Committee requested an agreement with the United States, were even more impressive.

Pershing 2.
1,5 minutes from the Baltic states and he is in St. Petersburg. The Americans then destroyed them under a treaty. But dazzling is not a problem.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: NEXUS

The range of 480 km can be doubled if you halve the base.

here balance-fuel-BZ ... you can twist anything. "nucleus" is less in weight, you can further zapendyurit.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Aerodrome

Quote: NEXUS

The range of 480 km can be doubled if you halve the base.

here balance-fuel-BZ ... you can twist anything. "nucleus" is less in weight, you can further zapendyurit.

The general emphasized that the equipment of the 9M728 and 9M729 missiles is made exclusively in the factory and it is impossible to refuel the rocket in military conditions

This is the main point. I think that nothing prevents from adding fuel at the same plant and supplying such a missile to the troops. And I don’t think that it is so difficult to transfer the Kalibrov ship-borne launcher to land. In general, we have something to answer to the Yankees and, moreover, quickly.

[evgen1221]

It’s not possible, the bit was bitten by mattresses and they won’t give it to the back because the image of a godfather will fall and prospects will be covered. And they make decisions based on the opportunities that open up to them, and not what kind of problems this may bring in the future. We, on the contrary, think more about problems.

[Kokarev Mikhail]

Yes, looking at the rocket and the complex it is clear that the Americans are driving along. But they will get away with it.

[Avior]

not that rocket and not that complex in the photo

[persei]

take on 480 km. military attaches and give a salvo)))))))))

[true_rover]

481 km away, and if you get on it, then say: sorry it happened, the wind was fair

[widower]

Quote: true_rover

sorry it happened, the wind was fair

margin of error

[Radical]

Quote: Wedmak

53 see discord and ridiculous accusations.

... and the masses of no less ridiculous excuses! Instead of succinctly, technically and once sending all the accusers on an erotic journey!

[stalki]

Yes, they just needed a reason, no reason, sucked out of the finger. They would all come out exactly. And ours are probably ready for this.

[voyaka uh]

As always confused: the photo always shows the common ballistic Iskander (the Americans have no complaints about it).
And the article is about the winged Iskander (could not come up with a different name, so as not to get confused?)

[Coronel76]

As always confused: the photo always shows the common ballistic Iskander (the Americans have no complaints about it).
And the article is about the winged Iskander (could not come up with a different name, so as not to get confused?)

This is specially so that no one would guess

[K-50]

The general emphasized that the equipment of the 9M728 and 9M729 missiles is made exclusively in the factory and it is impossible to refuel the rocket under military conditions, namely, the maximum constructive flight range of 480 km depends on the mass of fuel, which meets all the conditions of the INF Treaty. For a longer flight, the rocket simply does not have enough fuel

Pin dos kam deeply do not care about all our arguments and arguments. They need a reason to get out of the INF Treaty, they invented it and now at least tell them and prove it, they will stand their ground anyway.
So there is nothing to throw beads before pigs, they don’t understand, sir.
They had already thought up everything for themselves, decided, even laid down the development of SMD missiles in their budget (although they have long had them, these are target missiles) and put them into service.
Suppliers from the defense industry are rubbing the pens of the new jackpot, because any of our arguments for them cry to nowhere.

[jetfors_84]

So which rocket authors decide. That 9M279 then 9M729. Then 9M278 then 9M728

[SS-18 Satan]

Well, as I understand it, the Ministry of Defense .. on 92 gasoline rocket flies at 480km. and they haven’t tested it on 95 gasoline yet.)

[501 Legion]

even before these freaks star-striking to make excuses. the one who blames should prove and not vice versa.

[soul]

Some negotiators have this position. The Yankees made a bunch, poked the opponent in the face, and while he spits out and appeals to conscience, they make the next bunch.

[Operator]

Quote: voyaka uh

could not come up with a different name so as not to get confused?

For God's sake: Is RC-55 Relief okay?

[FOBOSS]

There is a mistake in the title of the article. Rocket "9M279"

[FOBOSS]

Yes, and in the text: then 278 then 728 and 279 and 729

[Dzafdet]

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How would those proportions ..

[Alexey-74]

Well, that's back to the days of the Cold War. The United States has already completely withdrawn from the Treaty, but Russia is now keeping all of Europe at gunpoint, all the more so after the withdrawal from the treaty we are no longer constrained by any parameters of 480 km, very quickly the missiles will be modernized and they will easily hit up to 2,5 thousand km .

[voyaka uh]

The second time on the same rake called "cold war"?

[svd-xnumx]

The second time on the same rake called "cold war"?

And what is there to break the head of the mattress makers. There is a goal-to destroy the Russian Federation, and they went according to the means tested by the USSR: sanctions, information war, an arms race, growing and feeding the internal "fighter against the regime."

[Town Hall]

Will you plan on their knees? ..

[dgonni]

The feeling is that they justify themselves but again ineptly and this causes only pity! The author of the article asks how do mattresses know for testing and range with them? So at the moment, all starts are monitored in all ranges. Or should they name the satellite numbers that accompanied the tests? It would be better if this briefing was not carried out at all than shamefully making excuses.

[rayruav]

everyone has already passed, it's time to increase the firing range, the Americans withdraw from the treaty

[APASUS]

I tried to search the Internet and Old Americans a little bit, and what struck me was that there is a lot of info on the rocket, but almost everything looks like a juggling, because the texts are full of such definitions: They probably bought, and they probably also tested a bunch of undefined values.

[Waldemar]

At the Americans, all of their launchers are re-loaded on the Tomahawk in half an hour. And they see the same claims against Iskander. But they are liars and scum. The ground-based tomahawk program is not closed but is developing, and all these nonsense from them are sick to hear. Do not dare touch them. Sacred cow usa pancake

[sharp-lad]

Rather, the evils of absolution! They were also told that they were out of turn for any show off from the collective west.

[sharp-lad]

Mountain plucked spring grass.

[sharp-lad]

Mountain goats plucked spring grass.

[Old26]

Quote: NEXUS

Range in 480 km can be doubled if you halve the base. Another question is that on the new Iskander there will be not 2, but 4 PU, ... then this is no longer the Macedonian, since Alexander the Great had only two horns on his helmet, and not 4.
In addition, a new launcher has been created for the 9M279 missile, which houses four, not two, missiles.

Andrew! Actually, this missile is not an Iskander-M missile, the phrase is constructed quite incorrectly, which allows a double interpretation. In principle, it was only said that the 9M729 missile is a further development of the 9M728 missile of the Iskander complex. But that's all. Everything else is different. And the launcher is 9P701 instead of 9P78-1, and the TZM is different. So this missile is not an Iskander, although it is, as they say, close by. Perhaps with the further development of the Iskander-M ballistic missile (and there is such information that work is already underway to create a new missile), this cruise will be part of the new complex. But while it is "written on the water with a pitchfork"

Quote: bayard

On the net there was a picture of a PU with 6 containers. So 4 is not the limit.

With 6 containers, a model of an experimental launcher of a coastal anti-ship complex with 2007 anti-ship missiles of the "Caliber" type (CLUB-M) was shown at the MAKS-6 show. A launcher with 4 containers was demonstrated on the observation deck. But these were different vehicles (different chassis). In addition, the layout of the 6 containers was more reminiscent of the package layout of missiles, as on the Buk-M3 complex. It is simply impossible to put two more containers on the machine that was demonstrated then on the site (live) and now at the briefing. For two reasons.
1. There are only two lifting arrows
2. Two more containers nowhere to insert

The car at the site of MAKS-2007, although it belongs to the "Caliber"

Collage with launchers on which 6 TPK

Rear launcher view and the distance between the TPK and the presence of two lifting arrows

Pay attention to the car (launcher) in the first photo, its configuration and the cars in the collage. At the briefing it was shown exactly the machine, similar to the one in the first photo

Quote: Zubr

Oh, here's another thought I have, most likely they still made a tandem warhead, the first cumulative, so that the main warhead went deeper, the high-impact effect from such a solution would be much higher. And then they increased the accuracy. You can imagine that all of their ZKP and missile defense launchers will have a full corek. Well it is, thinking aloud. Looks like mattresses, very closely watched the tests of this rocket, now the satellite reconnaissance group allows you to see a lot. Or maybe intelligence intelligence, I also do not rule out that.

And why is the cumulative warhead on the rocket, the main task of which is the defeat of stationary targets. In principle, this is an analogue of 3M14, only so far permitted by the range agreement

Quote: bayard

It is in such a PU that the sea "Caliber" will rise, as we celebrate the commemoration of the INF Treaty. There is no need to design anything new - the dimensions are maintained, the containers are unified. "Comrades for work" - as Comrade Brezhnev said.

Well, the sea "Caliber" seems to fit there, but is there a need for it? After all, what rolled in Syria, when cruise missiles went over the semi-deserts of Iraq and Syria, may not be able to fly in Europe, where the armies are not a crowd of Barmalei and the troops have a sufficient number of air defense systems, but in the Air Force - AWACS aircraft

Quote: Zubr

Well, the Bastion is very similar to it. And even more so, I look at the photo and immediately think, there you can put more rockets ..

Initially "Bastion", or rather its export modification, was planned for three containers. Then we settled on two ...

Quote: jetfors_84

So which rocket authors decide. That 9M279 then 9M729. Then 9M278 then 9M728

So it seems that no one wrote about 9M278 and 9M279. Only 9M728 and 9M729.

Quote: rayruav

everyone has already passed, it's time to increase the firing range, the Americans withdraw from the treaty

Starting from February 2, the countdown will be 6 months. After their expiration, we can experience and deploy everything that our heart desires. In the meantime, it's better to wait. So that we do not initiate breach of contract

[garri-lin]

The cumulative precharge is good for anti-bunker modification. Facilitates penetration of the main charge.

[razved]

It is noteworthy that all the "interested" were absent from the presentation ... they have already designated Russia as the culprit in the INF Treaty violation and they are not interested in anything else, because the Fascinating "comrades" provided them with "irrefutable evidence" that they unconditionally believe. Everything else (i.e. the briefing of the RF Ministry of Defense) is a lie that is not worthy of their attention and time ...

[Old26]

Comrades! I apologize for misleading you about the fact that the cars I see in the photographs are different. This one and the same car - MZKT-7930 "Astrologer". I was misled by a cursory glance to the aerodynamic inclined cover above the cabin in the first photo. But regarding the number of TPK I remain in my opinion. There are 4. On the collage, where 6 TPK are shown, a completely different lifting scheme. Not 2 arrows, but a certain pallet.

But what was shown at a briefing today (cars, of course)