American Intelligence Interested in Nudol Project

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Russia is developing a number of promising air defense, missile and space defense systems designed to protect the country as a whole and individual objects from a possible attack. All these projects naturally attract the attention of foreign experts and the media. In recent days, in foreign and then in domestic publications, a whole shaft of publications has been observed about one of the promising Russian developments. The theme News and articles became the Nudol system, considered the latest anti-satellite weapons.

The current situation has a curious feature. The “Nudol” project attracts increased attention of foreign media, but the authors of official documents from other countries are not inclined to exaggerate its importance. Moreover, in some cases, affecting the topic as a whole, they prefer not to concretize or indicate specific types of products developed in Russia.




Estimated appearance of the launcher complex "Nudol"


For example, the Pentagon recently released a new missile defense review, 2019 Missile Defense Review, which focused on topical threats in the nuclear-missile field and the answers to them. In one of the sections of the report, Russian developments in the field of anti-satellite weapons, to which the Nudol complex is traditionally referred abroad, were mentioned. The report noted that Russia is developing ground-based anti-satellite weapons designed to destroy orbital targets with a direct hit. Also, the reviewers of the missile defense review recalled the strange and suspicious Russian-made spacecraft. At the same time, the actual “Nudol” is not mentioned in the document.

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New messages directly on the Nudol complex, also known as PL-19, were published on January 18 by the American television channel CNBC. The editors of the channel through an unnamed intelligence officer was able to get acquainted with some of the data from a secret report of one of the intelligence agencies of the United States. This document contained very interesting information. American intelligence was able to establish that a few weeks ago, Russian experts conducted regular tests of the Nudol product and obtained quite good results.

According to CNBC, the next test launch took place on December 23 last year. The anti-satellite missile took off from a mobile ground launcher and set off for a conventional target. Its flight lasted 17 minutes, during which time the rocket was able to cross the 1864 miles (3 thousand km). Then the interceptor missile fell in a given area. Start recognized as successful.

It should be recalled that the foreign press is not the first time publishing data about the tests of the Russian anti-satellite complex. Since 2014, foreign media have repeatedly written about the Nudoli tests, obtaining the necessary data from their sources in intelligence or the US military. In general, according to foreign data, from 2014 to 2018, Russia conducted seven tests of a promising complex, including two last year. Five starts are called successful; the status of another is unknown: intelligence talked about failure, while other sources consider it successful.

Intelligence and the United States media claim that last year’s two Nudol missiles were launched at the Plesetsk test site. Instead of test benches used earlier, they used regular self-propelled launchers. Thus, the anti-satellite complex is already being tested in full configuration, which serves as a transparent allusion to the current stage of testing.

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January 20 on profile resources and blogs, new interesting information about the project "Nudol". This time it was about the features of placing his funds at the Plesetsk test site. Using available satellite images of the Earth’s surface, military enthusiasts were able to determine the most probable site for testing a promising complex.

It is assumed that the test launch system "Nudol" used the former launch pad with a set of tools for the carrier rocket "Cyclone". Several years ago, this platform began to be rebuilt for the needs of promising systems, and by now it has returned to operation in a new role. Apparently, in the course of the restructuring, they abandoned the existing silo launcher, and the launches of new missiles are now being conducted from open sites.

The new satellite images captured a section of the Plesetsk cosmodrome, which has several parallel tracks with access to them. Next to the two longitudinal tracks, a pair of side platforms of sufficient size is provided - apparently, these are starting points. The commercial satellite has managed to remove not only the infrastructure of the landfill, but also the equipment on it. At both starting positions there are long machines on the chassis of the brand "MZKT". Their appearance suggests the presence of transport-launch containers and missiles.


Starting positions at the Plesetsk cosmodrome


It was the presence of characteristic cars on a pair of new starting positions that became perhaps the main argument in favor of using the converted site with the PL-19 / Nudol complex. Also, it should be noted that a foreign commercial satellite was able to take photographs of real means of the latest complex of anti-space defense. Previously, specialists and lovers of military equipment had to rely only on drawings and diagrams allegedly related to the project.

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For well-known reasons, Russian structures are in no hurry to publish all the most interesting data on the promising Nudol project. As a result, a significant part of the information - first of all, about the testing process - comes from foreign sources. However, the Russian Ministry of Defense and the enterprises participating in the project occasionally mention a new complex. Data from various sources, both domestic and foreign, allow us to make a rather detailed picture. In this case, however, is not without controversy.

According to Russian data, the Nudol complex is being created as part of a larger program to modernize the missile defense system. The purpose of the development work with the cipher "Nudol" is the creation of a firing complex, control station and other means for various purposes, made on a mobile chassis. Also, the complex should include a new long-range interceptor missile.

From domestic sources, it follows that the Nudol complex is intended for use in missile defense and should complement existing funds from its composition. Ammunition complex is called a space rocket. According to foreign data, the complex has other goals and is a system for the destruction of spacecraft in orbit. Similar conclusions were made, first of all, on the basis of the well-known flight characteristics of the new rocket.

OCD "Nudol" was launched at the end of the last decade. In 2010, this name was first mentioned in the official documents of one of the defense enterprises. In the future, repeatedly appeared new messages on the performance of certain works. Since 2014, there have been regular reports of test launches. Interestingly, this kind of data was first published by the foreign press, referring to its sources in US military circles. The Russian media, by announcing data on test launches, mainly relied on foreign sources.

The first launch of the Nudol missile, sometimes referred to as 14А042, according to foreign data, took place on August 12 2014. According to some sources, it ended in an accident, according to other sources - it was a throwing start with the desired results. 22 April 2015, the new launch, declared unsuccessful. 18 November of the same year, the testers completed the third launch - the first definitely successful. In the foreign press it was assumed that the purpose of this launch was to test the anti-satellite capabilities of the complex.

In November and December, 2016 of the year launched two new types of missiles at Plesetsk; Both launches are recognized as successful. December launch was the last with the use of an experimental launcher. In 2017, no launches were made or they were not reported. The sixth start was 26 March last year. The rocket took off from a self-propelled launcher and hit the target. In December, the seventh test launch took place, which became the fifth unambiguously successful.

The composition of the shooting complex "Nudol" should include several fixed assets built on special wheeled chassis. First of all, it is a launcher with interceptor missiles. A transport vehicle for its maintenance and a mobile command and computing station are also being developed. The question of radar systems remains open. According to the data of previous years, Nudol will work together with the existing radar stations and Moscow missile defense control devices. Whether this complex will receive its own car with a radar is unknown.

The characteristics of the rocket, known as 14А042, have not yet been published, but individual reports may be the basis for various assessments. So, during the last launch at the moment, an experienced rocket overcame about 3 thousand km. Taking into account the specifics of the flight along the Earth-to-Earth trajectory, one can imagine the approximate capabilities of a rocket to intercept ballistic or orbital targets. In both cases, we can talk about the firing range of hundreds of kilometers and reach an altitude of at least 100-150 km.


Various types of equipment on the starting positions


It is because of such assessments that “Nudol” is considered abroad not an anti-missile, but an anti-satellite weapon. It is believed that the characteristics at this level will allow the interceptor missile to attack the spacecraft in low orbits. However, official Russian sources do not yet confirm and do not refute the anti-satellite purpose of the new complex.

According to known data, while the PL-19 "Nudol" system remains on the test and therefore is used only at the Plesetsk test site. Previously, an experimental launcher was used to test new weapons, and to date, launch positions for self-propelled combat vehicles have been equipped. How long the tests will continue is unknown. Apparently, the complex will be adopted over the next few years.

The question of the further deployment of new weapons also remains unanswered. If "Nudol" is really a missile defense system and is intended to work as part of the defense systems of Moscow and the central industrial region, then the production complexes will be served in the relevant areas of the country. The use of mobile chassis and the assumption of the anti-satellite role of the complex, in turn, led to the appearance of a version about the possibility of its deployment in any region of the country, depending on the current needs of the army and current threats.

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According to most Russian sources, the promising Nudol complex is being developed for use as part of a modernized anti-missile defense system and is intended to increase its potential. Foreign experts are inclined to see PL-19 as a promising weapon for fighting spacecraft. In such a role, a new Russian development may pose a particular threat to foreign armies. It is probably for this reason that “Nudol” is receiving close attention from various publications and specialists.

Modern armed forces actively use satellites for various purposes; With the help of such a technique, various tasks are solved - navigation, reconnaissance, communications, etc. Thus, a promising complex capable of destroying vehicles in orbit represents a serious threat to the army. According to foreign press reports, such systems are being created in our country and in China. They can be considered an asymmetric response to the development of other areas and, at the beginning of an open armed conflict, equalize the chances of armies. It is for this reason that each message about the testing of the Nudol system or its Chinese counterparts attracts attention and becomes a reason for discussion.

Apparently, the anxiety of the American specialists and the military connected with the PL-19 “Nudol” complex will constantly increase. Seven test launches of experienced missiles have already been completed, and this means that the tests may be nearing completion. The ready anti-missile / anti-space complex will be able to enter service in the foreseeable future, and this fact clearly will not go unnoticed.

Based on:
https://defense.gov/Portals/1/Interactive/2018/11-2019-Missile-Defense-Review/The%202019%20MDR_Executive%20Summary.pdf
https://media.defense.gov/2019/Jan/17/2002080666/-1/-1/1/2019-MISSILE-DEFENSE-REVIEW.PDF
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-806.html
https://cnbc.com/
https://defense.gov/
https://defence-blog.com/
http://freebeacon.com/
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/
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  1. -1
    23 January 2019 06: 00
    The adversaries are shaking!
  2. +2
    23 January 2019 06: 24
    According to foreign data, the complex has other goals and is a system for the destruction of spacecraft in orbit.

    Thus, a promising complex capable of destroying vehicles in orbit poses a serious threat to the army.

    The question is what exactly. GPS satellites and communication satellites hang in high orbits and Nudol will not reach them. Remaining satellites for sensing the earth that hang in low orbit, and there are a lot of them. Both military and commercial. Who will be shot down and will there be enough missiles?
    1. 0
      23 January 2019 09: 30
      Quote: Puncher
      GPS satellites and communication satellites hang in high orbits and Nudol will not reach them.
      With the kinetic method of destruction, the payload consists only of a guidance unit, therefore rockets of this type can theoretically reach not only medium orbits, but also geostationary ones.
      1. +1
        23 January 2019 17: 09
        theoretically can get

        Theoretically, yes, but you need to get it in practice. And with this there are some questions. In particular, the open press reported that the kinetic warhead will be placed exclusively on short-range missiles, as for long-range ones, special warheads will be placed there. That is, weight will ultimately matter.
        1. +1
          26 January 2019 05: 55
          Even theoretically, the long-range intercept missile of the Nudol complex is not capable of hitting an object in geostationary orbit. Restrain your thought squadron. It flies about ten times the ballistic distance to the GSO.
    2. -1
      1 February 2019 10: 43
      The range of missiles deep into space is 1500 km.
  3. 0
    23 January 2019 08: 04
    If the Americans consider Nudol to be an anti-satellite missile and if we "got good enough results," then there must be some satellite debris in orbit. And if they are silent about it, then all their statements are just nonsense.
  4. 0
    23 January 2019 09: 56
    "The characteristics of the rocket, known as 14A042, have not yet been published, but individual messages may be the basis for different estimates. So, during the last launch at the moment, the experimental rocket covered about 3 thousand km. Having adjusted for the specifics of the flight along the trajectory" ground- ground ", you can imagine the approximate capabilities of a missile to intercept ballistic or orbital targets. In both cases, we can talk about a firing range of hundreds of kilometers and an altitude reach of at least 100-150 km."
    I don’t understand, ours are testing a rocket with the above characteristics, and the Americans are rockets:"The relevance of the above concept of using the Zumwalt class EMs has sharply increased against the background of the recent successful tests of the new SM-3 Bock IIA anti-missile missile, which was able to intercept enemy ballistic targets at a distance of up to 2500 km and at an altitude of about 1500." (This is from the article "Balsa and the cork tree will not save. What trump cards do the naval aviation of the Russian Navy have in the battle with the Zamvolts?"
    Can someone explain this huge difference in the characteristics of missiles. Our missiles are on huge launchers, and Amer on ships, where limited spaces.
    I will be very grateful
    1. +2
      23 January 2019 11: 27
      One reason is materials.
      Shells are increasingly made of plastics. The second is the miniaturization of electronics and control devices. Third - kinetic killer instead of warheads. It is very light, about 20 kg.
      1. +3
        24 January 2019 10: 52
        Quote: voyaka uh
        One reason is materials.
        Shells are increasingly made of plastics. The second is the miniaturization of electronics and control devices. Third - kinetic killer instead of warheads. It is very light, about 20 kg.


        Warrior - back in the 70s we wound composite missile hulls. Then switched to carbon fiber

        1. +2
          24 January 2019 10: 56
          Then what are your explanations that Russian missiles are noticeably larger and heavier than similar Western ones?
          1. +2
            24 January 2019 11: 20
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Then what are your explanations that Russian missiles are noticeably larger and heavier than similar Western ones?


            This is a common practice of understating the real parameters of weapons that are not intended for export.
            If American sources are trying to communicate realistic achieved indicators, then in the practice of the military-industrial complex of the USSR and the Russian Federation it is customary to underestimate the parameters of products that are impossible for the enemy to verify by objective control.
            By materials and fuel, we caught up with our American colleagues by the 2000s.

            Do you know what the commanders of the reb at the GSVG said?
            In the third world war, communications workers on all sides will again have to drag wire coils - there will not be a single communications satellite, and ground-based communication centers will be suppressed by knocking / suppressing interference to the tactical link.

            By the way, successful operations to suppress and oust AWACS from the area, as well as attacks by the relocating F16 squadrons, were carried out in the late 80s.
            Those. for tactical aviation pilots, navigation on paper maps and visual landmarks will be common practice, as beacons, communication with the dispatch service, and ZhPS navigation will be suppressed.

            By the way, about Israeli aviation and their attacks on Syria.
            Even the EW of the USSR could make it so that most of the F-16s did not return from a night flight - the crews would be forced to leave the cars after losing orientation and generating fuel.
            The fact that this does not happen - I see great restraint of the leadership.
            1. +3
              24 January 2019 11: 37
              "there will not be a single whole communication satellite" ////
              ---
              You probably know that next-generation GPS satellites launch at an altitude of 22,000 km, while strategic control satellites launch at an altitude of 30,000 km. How are they supposed to be disabled? The losses of low-orbit satellites are compensated by their repeated launches of 10 pieces per launch with reusable steps.
              Musk plans to launch 4100 satellites of his Internet into orbits in just three years.
              And these are not 10X10 cm qubits, but rather large devices.
              Military qubits that form networks in space in low orbits can generally be launched 50-60 at a time. They are shot, as from a machine gun, from the second stage of the rocket. Recently there was such a launch. And after a few hours they are operational.
              ----
              "The fact that this is not happening - I see great restraint of the leadership" ////
              ----
              So our leadership is extremely restrained. Air raids of 4 to 12 ammunition aircraft with small warheads for minimal collateral damage.
              These are not concrete pounding 1000 pounds exploding at a depth of 25-50 m inside the command centers ... Why aggravate the situation?
              1. +2
                24 January 2019 11: 51
                Quote: voyaka uh
                You probably know that next-generation GPS satellites launch at an altitude of 22,000 km


                So before, communication satellites were hanging in orbits of 33000-37000 km, the tasks of their destruction were solved back in those years by stationary means of basing. Now these funds will be mobile - that's great. This will make it possible to eliminate the second wave of reconnaissance and navigational travelers and means of relaying to zero.

                It is cheaper to suppress GPS satellites than to shoot them down - it is easier to destroy them "in bulk" - a powerful space nuclear charge. The satellites and satellites of the second wave that survived from EMP will be destroyed from mobile launchers.

                All tactical aircraft on GPS navigation are just whipping boys.
                Anything that does not have an inertial navigation system is just waiting for an hour when they are suddenly "dropped". As it almost happened in the 89th during the redeployment of the F-16 squadron from Italy to Germany, my companion, a direct participant in these events - so this is not a "button accordion"
                1. 0
                  24 January 2019 12: 00
                  "back in those years - by stationary means of basing." ////
                  ----
                  What rocket, if it is not military secret, can destroy a satellite in geostationary orbit?
                  The number of deployed missiles that are Russian, that American is well known under the treaties. And their goals are well known. These are usually cities, enemy rocket mines, large military bases and the most important military or strategic factories / plants. Is there a remnant of missiles aimed at satellites? I doubt it very much ...
                  1. +2
                    24 January 2019 12: 23
                    At present, everything is different, we are peaceful people ...
                    In Soviet times, from stationary mines.

                    Low-altitude complexes - for example:
                    - anti-satellite aviation complex 30P6 "Contact" consisting of:
                    - MiG-31D carrier aircraft (developer - MiG Design Bureau);
                    - rocket 79M6 "Contact" with a kinetic interceptor AES
                    http://xexe.club/210803-protivosputnikovoe-oruzhie-sssr.html

                    The first attempt to intercept a space object with the participation of “Flight” ended in luck. 1 November 1968 of the year the Soviet interceptor satellite "Cosmos-249" destroyed the satellite "Cosmos-248", which had been launched into Earth orbit the day before. After that, even more 20 tests were conducted, most of which ended successfully. At the same time, starting from 1976, in order not to multiply the amount of space debris in orbit, the tests ended not with demolition, but with the contact of the fighter and the target and their subsequent vault from orbit using onboard engines. The created system was quite simple, reliable, practical and cheaply important. In the middle of the 1970-s, it was adopted.


                    As for satellites in stationary orbits, it was planned to disable them by emy radiation from undermining megaton-class charges in space, this did not require direct hits - but only removing charges to the corresponding orbits, which could be carried out by ballistic missiles with the corresponding PN.
                    1. +1
                      24 January 2019 12: 28
                      Thanks for the details.
                      1. +2
                        24 January 2019 12: 46
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        Cosmos-249


                        Nezachto.

                        This is from what existed.
                        From the modern - unverified rumors and unverified information
                        Last July (2017), the Soyuz-2.1v rocket with the Volga booster block launched the Cosmos-2519 secret spacecraft from the Plesetsk cosmodrome. For quite some time, some sources identified it as a 14F150 “Voltage” geodetic satellite, designed for high accuracy mapping. The data obtained should have been used to compile flight missions of ballistic missiles.

                        The satellite was launched into orbit with an apogee of 667 km, a perigee of 650 km and an inclination of 98 degrees.

                        However, after a while, the Ministry of Defense opened the maps, saying that the launched spacecraft is a platform designed to launch another satellite into space - Cosmos-2521. And now he is a satellite inspector. The launch was qualified as a test launch, to study the possibilities using a small-sized device to visually examine the carrier satellite using optical equipment.

                        The fact that the tests of the new system were successful was announced at the end of October. After which, it would seem, they forgot about this “couple”. The platform and the satellite-inspector continued to cut ellipses without changing their relative position.

                        And now the "baby", who was dubbed the "killer companion", came to life. Even in such functionality, which is officially announced, it is a serious weapon. In this case, intelligence.

                        Maneuvering in near-Earth space according to commands from the Earth, the inspector satellite can approach the military satellites of a potential enemy at the required distance. After examining the object of interest in the visible, infrared and ultraviolet ranges, the data obtained are transmitted to the control center, where they are subjected to the necessary analysis using computing resources.

                        https://marafonec.livejournal.com/9892807.html

                        For reliability - I can not vouch :))
                      2. +1
                        24 January 2019 12: 53
                        It's right. Maneuvering satellite vehicles exist. And they can finish off the enemy's satellite. But transitions from orbit to orbit and maneuvers there in high orbits are slow, as far as I understand. It will take a week or more from the moment you receive the order: "destroy satellite A" to its execution?
                      3. +2
                        24 January 2019 13: 14
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        It's right. Maneuvering satellite vehicles exist. And they can finish off the enemy's satellite. But transitions from orbit to orbit and maneuvers there in high orbits are slow, as far as I understand. It will take a week or more from the moment you receive the order: "destroy satellite A" to its execution?


                        Of course, ballistics plays a role there, not all satellites can be destroyed in the Shield-82 exercises (shit-82), the strategy of a 7-hour nuclear war (a preventive strike on the United States and its allies) was worked out, including the interception of conditional United States navigation satellites and launched their own second-wave navigation satellites.
                        more details http://www.rulinia.ru/politika/yadernaya-voyna-1982-1983-goda.html

                        The last test of the complex took place on June 18, 1982 during the largest exercises of the Soviet nuclear forces, nicknamed the "seven-hour nuclear war" in the West. Cosmos-1379 intercepted a target - a simulator of the US navigation satellite Transit. It was a full-fledged test of the means of the IS-M complex, which was carried out, inter alia, in the interests of developing the IS-MU complex. In the framework of the IS-MU topic, under the leadership of A. Savin, the development of the 14F10 spacecraft equipped with four missiles continues. On August 18, 1983, the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Yu.V. Andropov, who at that time was the main ideologist of the collapse of the USSR in favor of Russia's integration into Europe, announced the unilateral unilateral testing of tests in the USSR. Andropov (and his comrades in the so-called “K-17”) was already in full swing preparing for “perestroika”. On February 9, 1984, after the death of Andropov, work on the IS-MU complex resumed. In April 1991, the new PKO - IS-MU complex as part of the Cyclone-2 and AES 14F10 satellites was put into operation. And again, for political reasons, in August 1993, the leadership of the Russian Federation decided to remove the IS-MU complex from combat duty.

                        Source: https://nlo-mir.ru/45-kosmos/36455-is-na-orbite.html
                        11K69 Cyclone-2 launch vehicle carrying IS-M


                        That is, by the end of the 1980s, the military potential of the USSR was unequivocally high both in conventional weapons, and in nuclear and space, and made it possible to reduce not only the military-economic potential of the United States, but also Europe within 7-8 hours.

                        I am only glad that the mind then turned out to be stronger and the countries moved away from the degree of escalation of the situation, which can not be said about some boobies in the US administration and small Britain, who consider Russia a miserable likeness of the USSR.
                        In fact, the guys from the west themselves believed in those stories that they themselves distributed.

                        The modern potential in the high-tech weapons of the Russian Federation is growing rapidly, long overcoming the stagnation of the 90s, which was to be expected when communicating with the politics of power.
                        As a result, they will receive a much more technological adversary than one might expect.
                        Well, yes it's their choice.
                      4. 0
                        24 January 2019 15: 17
                        You see, there are a lot of question marks ... Like the USSR, Russia often resorts to bluffing tactics in military developments. This is legitimate. And the performance characteristics of developments are sometimes deliberately underestimated in order to "surprise" in the hour X, and sometimes they do not reach the stated ones.
                        In the USSR, in pursuit of huge bonuses (Lenin and others), which often amounted to many tens of small salaries of engineers, entire design bureaus went to falsify product testing. The military, in turn, used to rub points at the training grounds for inspectors from the Central Committee of the CPSU for asterisks on uniform. Therefore, the test of satellite weapons can be treated with a percentage of skepticism.
                        But surprises can always be feared.
                      5. +2
                        24 January 2019 15: 58
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        In the USSR, in pursuit of huge bonuses (Lenin and others), which often amounted to many tens of small salaries of engineers, entire design bureaus went to falsify product testing. The military, in turn, used to rub points at the training grounds for inspectors from the Central Committee of the CPSU for asterisks on uniform. Therefore, the test of satellite weapons can be treated with a percentage of skepticism.
                        But surprises can always be feared


                        Here I do not agree, as having something to do with the military-industrial complex.

                        Tests of the military are just designed to reveal all the features, shortcomings and hidden defects.
                        Sometimes products did not reach TK. Or in a series of their performance characteristics decreased - nevertheless mass production. But then the improved version already went into the series with the next modification. Agreeing with the military behind the scenes was impossible, completely parallel systems.
                        I don’t know where you got it from, most worked for the idea, not for interest.
                        Most remained in the subject even in the 90s and still work.
                      6. +1
                        24 January 2019 16: 04
                        I am not saying it without proof. One of our relatives was a physicist of D. Sciences at the military space research institute. And another relative is an engineer officer in the Northern Fleet. And when both were already in deep retirement, I heard a lot of things in the glorious city of Boston. Without brands and names of products (they kept secrets "to death"), but examples of all sorts of forgeries and outrages of the Brezhnev era - whoa!
                      7. +2
                        24 January 2019 16: 39
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        I do not speak unfoundedly. One of our relatives was a physicist D.Nauk in the military space research institute. And another relative is an engineer officer in the Northern Fleet.


                        I do not exclude that there were different motivations.
                        Especially in Moscow research institutes - they always lived better there and were valued according to other criteria.
                        In the Ural research institutes there was nothing to compare with.

                        In the Navy - that is also amateur performance.
                        And the boats were drowned and rockets dropped and the reactors blew up ...
                        Because: "what one person invented, another must always break ..."
                        Because for 100 excellent specialists, there was one "acrobat" who would wave paper that everything was fine, another would exceed the speed in the bay, a third would light a cigarette where it was not supposed to be, a fourth would drop something that absolutely must not be dropped ...

                        The system for weeding out these "acrobats" worked poorly.
                      8. +2
                        24 January 2019 13: 28
                        Quote: voyaka uh
                        will it take a week or more to complete it?


                        Satellite Fighter (IS) - the Soviet anti-satellite weapon program, which led to the deployment of the IS-A system (I2P, 4Y11) in the 1970-1980s [1]. Initially, the IS was supposed to be launched using the UR-200, but after the development of the UR-200 was stopped, Polet, Cyclone-2 and Cyclone-2A launch vehicles were used instead

                        In the photo IS-MU

                        Anti-satellite complex

                        The IS-MU was developed to intercept artificial earth satellites (AES) in less than one orbit, as well as to intercept maneuvering satellites. The complex was developed on the basis and taking into account the experience of creating anti-satellite systems IS and IS-M. The head developer of the complex is the Central Research Institute "Kometa" (since 1985 - the Central Research and Production Association "Kometa"). Chief Designer (from 1979 to 1982) - Konstantin Aleksandrovich Vlasko-Vlasov. Since 1982, Leonard Stepanovich Legezo has supervised the development of the complex; since 1999, the direction of anti-space defense systems at the Kometa Center has been headed by Eduard Yakovlevich Kuznetsov. The development of the IS-MU complex began on November 14, 1978.

                        A test of interception of the satellite using the intercept complex IS-M was carried out on June 18, 1982 during the launch of the satellite "Cosmos-1379". This test was carried out, including within the framework of the program for the creation of the IS-MU complex.

                        The IS-MU complex provided several types of interception of satellite targets:
                        - interception of the target "on the pass" without entering the orbit around the Earth ("pre-orbit interception");
                        - interception of the target in one or more turns;
                        - multiple exit to the target (s) when making several turns;
                        - interception of the target at intersecting courses.

                        In 1984, it was decided to prepare for testing the complex against low-orbit satellites, but full-scale tests of the IS-MU complex were never conducted. For state tests and further operation, an ammunition of 16 14F10 satellite interceptors was prepared and stored at the Baikonur training ground. State tests of the system were carried out either without real launches with interception of satellites or launches to intercept were carried out along ballistic trajectories without putting the satellite interceptor into orbit (pre-orbit interception).

                        The deployment of the complex’s assets was completed in 1990. The complex was put into operation in April 1991. On April 26, 1993, a decree of the President of Russia on removing the IS-MU system from combat duty was issued. In August 1993, for political reasons, as well as in connection with the development of a more sophisticated IS-MD complex, the IS-MU complex was removed from combat duty.


                        That is, 1-2 turns from 2 to 3 hours to intercept a satellite from a complex orbit.

                        Warrior - I believed that you are an external employee of the Mossad, and you are a staff member :))
                        Pretend you don’t know about the existence of open information on the history of the development of fighter satellites of the USSR / RF;)
                      9. +2
                        24 January 2019 14: 14
                        I'm already sclerotic ... and lazy, in addition. winked
                        Thank you for the interesting review of Soviet satellite weapons.
                  2. +2
                    24 January 2019 13: 49
                    Quote: voyaka uh
                    What rocket, if it is not military secret, can destroy a satellite in geostationary orbit?


                    for example, there could be a complex 75P6 / IS-MD Outfit / AES 14F11
                    Anti-satellite complex. Development of the upgraded IS-MD complex for intercepting satellites targets, including those in geostationary orbit up to 40000 km high, was started on the basis of the IS-MU complex in 1988. The head developer of the complex is TsNPO "Kometa" (since 1985). The chief designer is Leonard Stepanovich Legezo, since 1999 the direction of anti-space defense systems at the Kometa Center has been headed by Eduard Yakovlevich Kuznetsov. The design of the complex was completed in 1991. Preparations for testing the complex began.

                    TTX complex:
                    The mass of the interceptor satellite is not less than 1400 kg

                    The orbit height of the satellite target is to 40000 km

                    Types of warheads - high-explosive fragmentation
                    Status: USSR / Russia - was not in service, was not tested.

                    Therefore, if the rocket for the complex is "heavy", then the correspondingly declared altitude, with the miniaturization of the payload, will allow you to "shoot" satellites selectively and the second and third waves, if necessary.

                    It is in vain that the current generation of Western politicians talked "through the lips" with Russia.
                    Disappointed in their intellectual potential - they turned out to be quite far, if they do not remember which abyss they moved away another 30 years have not passed ...
                    What they took for weakness was a naive attempt to believe in equal relations between countries ...
          2. +1
            24 January 2019 11: 32
            Quote: voyaka uh
            that Russian missiles are significantly larger and heavier than similar western ones


            By the way, even looking at what.

            Stronger heavier than the trident was the P-39


            But there was used the ARS, which allowed to shoot from under the ice - accordingly, we did not need to withdraw the SSBNs to areas where they could be tracked by means of the American PLO :)
            The rocket was not yet as perfect as the trident, but it expanded the areas of covert patrols.
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              26 January 2019 07: 24
              Are ARSSs in the figures? Themselves R-39 inside?
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                1 February 2019 13: 16
                Quote: Herrr
                Are ARSSs in the figures? Themselves R-39 inside?


                APC - this is what covers the head fairing + its shell (from the top to the first docking frame)
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              1 February 2019 10: 47
              but Russian missiles are tens of times more powerful than American and the range and speed are much higher!
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                1 February 2019 13: 19
                Quote: Vanguard2090
                but Russian missiles are tens of times more powerful than American and the range and speed are much higher!


                Great phrase for prayer.
                In practice, this is not always the case.
                The arms race is a constant competition.
                Yesterday they are, today we are, tomorrow again they are a question of money for development and whose economy it can withstand.
                Hope popularly explained?
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                  1 February 2019 16: 02
                  Explained childishly naive! The presence of a lot of money here plays a very small role, if there is no mind then money will not help! Over the past 10 years, Russia with its modest budget has developed and put into service dozens of types of the latest generation of new-generation missiles and dozens of them are testing !! Backward Americans with their huge budget over the past 40 years have not even developed more than one new rocket! and so in everything! For 20 years, Americans on hypersonic weapons have been marking the spot with zero results, spending trillions of dollars !! For 10 years, Russia has had dozens of types of hypersonic missile systems !! Americans even before 2090 will not be able and close to such weapons! due to backward technology and ancient electronics !!
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                    1 February 2019 16: 09
                    Quote: Vanguard2090
                    Explained childishly naive! The presence of a lot of money here plays a very small role, if there is no mind then money will not help!

                    Judging by your knowledge and ambition - you are 15 years old and you have not finished school yet?
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                      1 February 2019 16: 16
                      Judging by your dialect, you have not yet finished the third grade of a parish school church!
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            25 January 2019 13: 15
            The speed of Russian missiles is higher. Yes, and one mobile Nudol can cover almost all of Russia. The direct distance from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok is about 7000 km. Put Nudol in the Southern Urals, having a firing range of 3500 km, it will provide missile defense both over St. Petersburg and over Vladivostok and all cities that fall into this radius. If Nudol is based near Moscow, then Madrid, Lisbon, Paris, London, etc., etc. fall under its radius.
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              1 February 2019 16: 05
              in addition to the A-235 (airplane-m) -module, Russia has more than 4 thousand S-300, S-400 S-500 launchers, + 30 more types of air defense and missile defense systems, therefore Russia is the only country in the world that is completely covered by three echelons of air defense and missile defense systems!
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        1 February 2019 10: 45
        Nonsense, at a speed of 30 max, plastics will not withstand high temperatures, as far as the body is known, it consists of heavy-duty magnesium-tar alloys!
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      23 January 2019 22: 13
      Quote: turcom
      "The relevance of the above concept of using the Zumwalt class EM has increased sharply against the backdrop of the recent successful tests of the new SM-3 Bock IIA anti-missile missile, which was able to intercept enemy ballistic targets at a distance of up to 2500 km and at an altitude of about 1500 ....


      Where is the difference? They wrote to you that the rocket got the opportunity. But she couldn’t.
      In the meantime, here:
      A total of four SM-3 test launches, conducted in 2001-2002, successfully intercepted a simulator of a ballistic missile warhead in space at altitudes of 240-250 km. On December 11, 2003, a target at a height of 133 nautical miles (247 km) was shot down from the destroyer USS Lake Erie ...

      And the "Standards" have not shown anything more.
      The difference in size is primarily due to the fact that our missile defense systems are designed to intercept over the territory of Russia, or rather even for the "missile defense ring" around Moscow. We did not violate the ABM Treaty. Therefore, our rockets have an outrageous acceleration energy, which affects the weight of the product. If you want comparisons, then compare not with naval missiles, which are designed to intercept someone hundreds of kilometers from US territory, but with a direct US counterpart - Ground-Based Interceptor missiles. It is located on the territory of the United States and solves similar tasks to "Nudoli" in similar conditions. So, his rocket is 17 meters long, weighs 13 tons, is mine-based and is equipped with a 60-kilogram interception contact block.





      Quote: voyaka uh
      One reason is materials.
      Shells are increasingly made of plastics. The second is the miniaturization of electronics and control devices. Third - kinetic killer instead of warheads. It is very light, about 20 kg.


      Yes Yes Yes. And in Russia, rockets, as usual, are cast from cast iron, stuffed with relays and vacuum tubes, and traditionally equipped with an RPG-40 grenade in bulk. :) And, by the way, the Mk 142 interception stage still weighs not 20, but 60 kilograms.
      hi
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      26 January 2019 06: 17
      On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was fired from the cruiser Lake Erie in the Pacific Ocean and three minutes after launch hit the USA-247 emergency reconnaissance satellite located at an altitude of 193 kilometers, moving at a speed of 7 m / s (580 km / h). So far, this is the only reliable fact that I know about the real height of interception with the SM-27 - 247 km.
      1. -1
        1 February 2019 10: 49
        You can knock down a satellite with a brick if you throw a brick at a certain point at a certain time! satellites shot down already in the 70s of the last century and now they can shoot down both Russia and China!
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          1 February 2019 11: 00
          Usually they say not "brick", but "log" - kinetic interceptor (no explosives). Regarding kinetic intercepts of orbital objects in the 70s of the last century, I have no information at all.
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            1 February 2019 11: 11
            in the 70s satellites were mass produced, satellites were nuclear powered and could move and change their orbits! then it seems as if by agreement it was forbidden to do this.
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              1 February 2019 11: 36
              I don’t know about nuclear engines, but there really were interceptor satellites. With respect to the prohibitions on changing the orbit of orbital objects, you are absolutely right - this is only allowed subject to mandatory coordination of corrections with all interested parties that have objects in Earth orbit.
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                1 February 2019 11: 52
                They were with nuclear engines until one fell into Canada, infecting a large territory, after which there was a ban on putting nuclear installations into orbit!
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                  1 February 2019 12: 02
                  Cosmos-954, which fell into Canada in 1978, was equipped not with a nuclear engine, but with a nuclear power plant to power electrical equipment. you can read about it here:
                  https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Космос-954
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                    1 February 2019 12: 28
                    A nuclear power plant set in motion satellites that could change the altitude of the orbit, which means this is the engine!
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                      1 February 2019 13: 24
                      Do not count for rudeness. I stupidly copied the text. There he is:
                      Cosmos-954 was equipped with a BES-5 nuclear power plant, also known under the code name Buk, from which a side-view radar was fed. The electric power of the installation was 3 kW with a thermal of 100 kW, the maximum life of BES-5 was 124 (according to other sources, 135) days.
                      Cosmos-954 worked for a little over a month, when on October 28 ground control services unexpectedly lost control of it. The reason for this remained unknown. Most likely, the corrective motor failed. It was not possible to bring it into a higher orbit for burial.
                      As a correcting engine on the "Cosmos-954" could be used, for example, working on asymmetric dimethylhydrazine and nitric acid KDU-414. You can read about him too:
                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/КДУ-414
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                        1 February 2019 16: 06
                        there were more than 30 of them in orbit and not one!
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                        1 February 2019 16: 57
                        I cannot say anything definite about the total number of spacecraft launched into near and deep space with nuclear reactors. Of course, there were not one or two, it is easier to say that there were many, and not only in the USSR. But so far, as far as I know, not one of them had nuclear energy propulsion installation. In the field of the use of nuclear energy specifically for the movement of the spacecraft, Russian developers have only now come to the final stage of creating a working prototype for testing in space. By the way, - for the first time in the world. If you are really interested in this topic, you can read two rather unreasonable articles at the links below:
                        https://topwar.ru/23117-kosmicheskie-yadernye-energeticheskie-ustanovki.html
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ядерная_энергодвигательная_установка_мегаваттного_класса
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                        1 February 2019 17: 44
                        They didn’t come and the nuclear engine for the spacecraft was already ready, as far as we know it will be launched into space this year!
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                        1 February 2019 17: 46
                        We didn’t come nearer but already built a nuclear engine and a manned spaceship, which, as far as will be known, will be launched into space this year!
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                        1 February 2019 18: 04
                        Great news! We will follow the events.
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          1 February 2019 13: 28
          Quote: Vanguard2090
          You can knock down a satellite with a brick if you throw a brick at a certain point at a certain time! satellites shot down already in the 70s of the last century and now they can shoot down both Russia and China!


          Then they shot down not by a direct hit - by a field of fragments.
          You can search for fighter satellites on request.
          There were only 80 sets of them in the best years (16s), which is not enough to intercept the second wave of communication satellites and reconnaissance.
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    23 January 2019 11: 29
    Quote: Vita VKO
    Quote: Puncher
    GPS satellites and communication satellites hang in high orbits and Nudol will not reach them.
    With the kinetic method of destruction, the payload consists only of a guidance unit, therefore rockets of this type can theoretically reach not only medium orbits, but also geostationary ones.

    The Americans, Vitali, have a GBI type missile. With very high performance characteristics. In particular, EMNIP has a speed of over 9 km / s, a range of up to 5500 km, but with all this, reach in height is up to 2000-2500 km. And the satellites at the geostationary station are 36000 km. so alas. It will not work Evgeny (Puncher) is right: the question is what she will be able to shoot down ...
  6. 0
    24 January 2019 16: 24
    So I’m saying: bury a few 50 ... 100 megaton charges deep in still soil, and if ... then so ... and you don’t need all these interceptors. Although let them be. The main thing is the will to resist. And if there is no will, then everything is useless.
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    24 January 2019 21: 15
    Quote: DimerVladimer
    - anti-satellite aviation complex 30P6 "Contact" consisting of:
    - MiG-31D carrier aircraft (developer - MiG Design Bureau);
    - rocket 79M6 "Contact" with a kinetic interceptor AES

    Unfortunately, unlike the American ASAT system, ours did not exist. Development and testing began just before the collapse of the Union.
    The Polet satellites could intercept at altitudes from 300 to 1500 km. As for the satellites on the geostationary, even the explosion of an EMNIp 10 megaton charge could burn out electronics at a distance of about 30-50 km. Still, it was necessary to bring the charge very close (by cosmic standards) to the target. And to be honest, I don’t know what kind of charge the Proton could throw at such a height.

    Quote: voyaka uh
    In the USSR, in pursuit of huge bonuses (Lenin and others), which often amounted to many tens of small salaries of engineers, entire design bureaus went to falsify product testing. The military, in turn, used to rub points at the training grounds for inspectors from the Central Committee of the CPSU for asterisks on uniform. Therefore, the test of satellite weapons can be treated with a percentage of skepticism.

    I will not say that it has always been. Handing over the product was quite difficult. Moreover, crafts are one ministry, the military is another. Yes, there was also a step-by-step control of customer representatives (military representatives). Of course, such cases could take place, but I would not talk about the regular rubbing of glasses.
  8. +1
    26 January 2019 04: 31
    The first photo shows not the Nudol launcher, but the SAM launcher C-500 Type 77P6-1 on the MZKT-792911 chassis.
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    28 January 2019 20: 22
    Gentlemen, we should still shift the focus. There is no fundamental difference between an ICBM block in the middle flight phase, regardless of whether it hovers alone or together with its "classmates", and satellites in low orbits. Both of them move along a ballistic trajectory in the immediate vicinity of the Karman line. In the sense that the counter-rocket in this case does not care whether it is a satellite or an ICBM warhead.
    This entire western cheekbone aims to justify America’s deployment of weapons in space in the future. For the most part, the Westerner is dumb, because comfort and STP contribute to the formation of fat deposits where, in theory, a neural network should have been. In simple terms, the brain of the vast majority of Anglo-Saxons has long been lost for big sport.)
    Now watch your hands. The phrase "the Russians are developing and very successfully missiles capable of hitting satellites in low orbits" is conveyed as if the Russians had deployed weapons in space. After all, not one official resource of the Anglo-Saxons did not deign to inform their taxpayers that the Russians are developing a missile defense system, which, for objective reasons stemming from the theory of ballistics, is capable of destroying, among other things, satellites in orbits in close proximity to the Earth's atmosphere. Far from it! They portray it as if the Russians want to create an anti-satellite weapon to deprive the Anglo-Saxons of television and the Internet. Naturally, they would rather die than lose the opportunity to watch the next match of their favorite baseball team on TV!
    They want a big war ?! That is OK. We will get, as the Supreme said, the Kingdom of God, and they will die like dogs. And you know why? Because the Russians did not start this catavasia. And moreover, they almost overslept the finale of the opera. But the US, were so preoccupied with the dough that they managed to organize a false start three times. In such circumstances, not only bears will wake up, idols on Easter Island will speak.)
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    9 February 2019 01: 52
    I do not understand why we do not place the A-235 positional areas along the borders? In the event of war, we will knock down all this crap flying in our direction with nuclear missiles over the territory of Central Europe! After all, the ABM treaty has been annulled for 20 years, we can put anti-missiles where we want not only near Moscow. We should have such a message to them!

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