Is Kedmi right in reasoning about the reasons for the destruction of the "Shell" in Syria?

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Once again after the Israeli missile strike on the territory of Syria, experts come in, who present their views on how “this could have happened”. A well-known Israeli military expert, Jacob Kedmi, also offers his attempt to explain the situation. In fact, the attempt looks more like an excuse that Israeli planes are generally allowed to strike on the territory of a sovereign state.

Is Yakov Kedmi right? Judge for yourself.



Is Kedmi right in reasoning about the reasons for the destruction of the "Shell" in Syria?


Jacob Kedmi in an interview with the business newspaper "Sight" declares that the destruction of two Syrian air defense systems (Pantsir air defense missile system) occurred due to the fact that "the Russian version of the air defense system, which is being deployed in Syria, is not yet operational."

Kedmi:
The creation of this system is not fully completed.


According to the former head of one of the secret services of Israel, the Russian Federation is trying to build a unified air defense system with elements that will partially overlap each other’s areas of responsibility - to increase efficiency.

Kedmi:
But so far this system is not working. But the more effective such a system will work, the more problems it will deliver to Israel.


According to an Israeli expert, Israel will have to plan its air operations based on the potential damage that a single Syrian air defense system can cause aviation IDF.

If this is the case, then it may happen that while the “unified air defense system” in Syria is being built, Israel will destroy all the more or less combat-ready air defense systems of the SAR and their calculations. And in this case, building a unified system will not work again - new complexes and specialists will be needed. Vicious circle.

In fact, it is possible to explain in any way the continued Israeli strikes on ATS, but the fact remains: Israel currently does not see any problems for the implementation of the bombardment - be it technical or political.
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  1. BAI
    +36
    21 January 2019 17: 59
    It has long been known - it’s not a bobbin, but a gasket between the steering wheel and the seat.
    1. +10
      21 January 2019 18: 01
      Kedmi also says ....
    2. +6
      21 January 2019 18: 03
      To some extent, yes. But the specialists and equipment have been prepared by ours .... Maybe it’s not all about laying?
      1. +8
        21 January 2019 18: 06
        There should be a unified management system. Something like this!
        1. +37
          21 January 2019 19: 09
          And reinforced by Iskander to destroy the aggressor's airfields violating the sovereignty of another country. Then their conscience will suddenly wake up. They, like the "exceptional" ones, will become impudent until they get a must. And the shells seem to have been shot off and they were already sentenced empty. It was a deliberate, brazen operation. So these u ... s need to be treated specifically. Obviously taking a pill.
          1. +2
            21 January 2019 19: 44
            I have long said that Yarsi is on duty, and Satan is for rent. And again, as in the USSR, there will be world peace.
          2. +8
            21 January 2019 21: 47
            you need to establish intelligence, in real time, marking the takeoffs of all Israeli aircraft, even better - with classification and quantity.
            otherwise, an air defense system in a passive state will never be sufficiently effective.
            1. wax
              +10
              22 January 2019 00: 00
              I think everything is controlled there, piece by piece and per second, but ... we are not ready to start a war, and in Syria there is a lot of gunpowder, completely dry.
              1. +7
                22 January 2019 04: 56
                there is no control there. Golan Heights provide control over the air, but they are in the hands of Israel, and without this item only AWACS aircraft help to obtain a picture with sufficient operational depth. Given that in Syria there are only 2 such aircraft that take off on request, and not constantly, then there is no reliable control of the air situation, therefore there is no operational and high-quality coordination of air defense batteries.
            2. 0
              23 January 2019 22: 57
              NWO on the border with Li Wang
          3. +1
            22 January 2019 05: 53
            So that the bombed Israeli planes had nowhere to return to.
            lol soldier feel
          4. +5
            22 January 2019 10: 34
            "Then their conscience will wake up somehow."
            Nothing will wake up. And the fear of a guaranteed retaliatory strike must be awake.
            1. 0
              24 January 2019 15: 55
              Sorry, I forgot to quote the word conscience. hi
        2. +14
          21 January 2019 19: 10
          Quote: dima-fesko
          There should be a unified management system. Something like this!

          How many times have we read about the unified air defense system over the years? How much time did the Chief take, how many months did Shoigu and Co. promise after the September tragedy?
        3. +26
          21 January 2019 20: 17
          There must be an answer. There is no answer, they will continue to bomb.
          1. +5
            22 January 2019 11: 20
            What are you speaking about? To bomb and shoot down your own? This will not happen as long as these are in power in a country that was once ours.
      2. +1
        21 January 2019 18: 24
        Do you think that the extra time for approval and the order to destroy the target most effectively affects the defeat of the latter. (...... if orders exist at all)?
      3. +19
        21 January 2019 18: 25
        Quote: 210ox
        To some extent, yes. But the specialists and equipment have been prepared by ours .... Maybe it’s not all about laying?

        What kind of specialists? Syrians to specialists, as to China, plastunsko forward feet. At the same time, the entire air defense system in Syria is not continuous, and Israeli UAVs and fighter jets are not in vain probing its weaknesses.
        The formation of continuous air defense in Syria is only at the formation stage. At the same time, MODERN complexes are not enough, as are the calculations for them.
        The situation will change with how the Syrians learn. But for such an air defense system to work efficiently, modern complexes are needed, and not C-75,125,200 ... At the same time, BUKs with TORs are needed, which are sharpened to combat the Kyrgyz Republic.
        1. +34
          21 January 2019 19: 06
          Quote: NEXUS
          What kind of specialists?

          Andrei hi You are wrong. The video shows that only one installation was destroyed, and it fought to the end. On the second, a lot is not clear. The Jews also love to lie, be healthy. They showed the destroyed hangars of the airport, which he "destroyed on January 10th. So the soldiers died as true heroes, without abandoning, and not retreating. and the whole trouble is that, as one military specialist says, she was "overheated". The attack on one single installation was too massive. Besides, she was an old modification C, which arrived first a batch of 40, and they had many shortcomings. Foreign media calculated that to destroy one such installation, Israel needs 8 technologically advanced Delilah cruise missiles, which cost oh how much. And Kedmi is right, the Syrian air defense has not yet acquired the strength that is needed to repel Israel, so they are like wolves and are trying to destroy the country weakened by the war. There is no technology yet. There are no specialists. But it will be, the Jews have angered everyone very much. And the Syrians and Russia, and of course Iran.
          1. +20
            21 January 2019 19: 11
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            Andrey You are wrong.

            I said, as one of the variants of events is the calculation of the air defense system Pantsir shot everything to the "piece of iron" and he stupidly had nothing to protect himself with. I think this option is more plausible than another stupidity of the Syrians. But this does not mean that the Syrians have become professionals. This only means that the Syrians mean they still LEARN to intercept targets correctly and effectively.
            The air defense nicknames have such a rule - the air defense system covers the object, if it is impossible to further protect it, the air defense calculation dies along with the object of protection. Apparently this is how it happened.
            1. +13
              21 January 2019 19: 17
              Quote: NEXUS
              Apparently this is how it happened.

              I agree. They died during the fire, knowing that they would die. The Russian school of Tupo did not have enough resources, cover each other, well, and perfect equipment. It was clear that she fired on an approaching rocket but missed.
              1. +4
                21 January 2019 19: 20
                Quote: Mar. Tira
                . It was clear that she fired on an approaching rocket but missed.

                To fight against the Kyrgyz Republic, the TORs are much better suited ... The shell is still to say so, raw. Yes, it is modernizing, improving, but so far it is far from the TOR. At the same time, I won’t be surprised if the first C-350, which our MO will purchase, appear on duty not with us, but in Syria with our calculations. Then the Jews get very tense.
                1. +4
                  21 January 2019 19: 25
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  the first S-350s that our MO will purchase will appear not with us, but in Syria with our calculations.

                  Is it unlikely? If only as a reinforcement of the S-400 near our objects. But about the S-350 that I abandoned in the fall in Syria in the Massyaf area, I can’t find information. Has it disappeared somewhere?
                  1. +9
                    21 January 2019 20: 09
                    Quote: Mar. Tira
                    It is unlikely?

                    Quite even likely. Combat application is the best way to quickly find weaknesses and eliminate them.
                    Armor-complexes are good, only to intercept the "arrows" and not to hit the "archer" does not end well. And the Carapace is too "short-handed" to reach the carriers that hit from a safe distance for themselves. There is not enough medium-range air defense missile system BUK, well, Vityaz would not interfere here at all.
                    And the shortage of the Syrian air defense system of the far arm is clearly visible, otherwise the Shell would have been covered.
                    1. -2
                      21 January 2019 21: 14
                      I think the point here is no longer the flaws or features of the air defense systems. The thing is the people who control them, and the fact that these warriors this is the best that Syria has.
                      1. 0
                        22 January 2019 07: 21
                        Actually, "Syria" (R ...), as a response, it is necessary to unpack their colander called a leaky one, tfu made a mistake, "iron" dome. An eye for an eye in Israeli.
                      2. +2
                        22 January 2019 13: 08
                        Someone does not like the fact that Israel for their meanness can destroy the Israeli J. dome.
                2. +4
                  22 January 2019 12: 00
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Torahs are much better suited for fighting the KR ... We’ll still say that the shell is raw. Yes, it is modernizing, improving, but so far it’s too far from Tor.

                  There was even a recent statement by military expert Murakhovsky on shells. That they are significantly inferior to the TORAM, there were tests at the test site, where the TORs coped with the tasks much better than the shells. Here is the article: http: //avia.pro/news/murahovskiy-rossiyskie-panciri-eto-polnyy-proval
              2. -1
                21 January 2019 20: 56
                Quote: Mar. Tira
                They died during the fire, knowing that they would die.

                school one - survive and win
                and here it turns out perish and accept defeat
          2. -6
            21 January 2019 21: 50
            Quote: Mar. Tira
            The video shows that only one installation was destroyed, and it fought to the end ... The attack on one single installation was too massive


            Oh, it was already crying, beating to the end, the video shows, overheated, the media counted, blah blah blah. What is visible there and where, what media, where do you come from such experts? Massed here is only your imagination wassat

            The one who has the initiative in most cases will be the winner, but build at least 8 echelons of defense, there will always be a loophole. Syria is like Syria, Israel is absolutely not interested, believe? It is inconvenient only in the context of Iran and Hezbollah mongrels. For Russia, this whole situation is a headache, because Israel is not an enemy and Iran is just a situational not even an ally and a temporary partner, completely independent and uncontrollable, which helps on the one hand and plays its dirty games on the other. From that, and a deadlock, and the show continues.
          3. +3
            22 January 2019 04: 04
            Andrey hi You are wrong. The video shows that only one installation was destroyed, and it fought to the end.
            I completely agree with you, the guys fought professionally, fought to the end, real heroes.
            1. +1
              22 January 2019 08: 27
              Quote: 72jora72
              I completely agree with you, the guys fought professionally, fought to the end, real heroes.

              Illustration of the thesis that any feat is preceded by a mistake of higher ones.

              Although, of course, the option "your task is for this son of a dog to die heroically for his homeland" is much preferable, but alas.
        2. +3
          21 January 2019 21: 50
          Quote: NEXUS
          At the same time, the entire air defense system in Syria is not continuous, and Israeli UAVs and fighter jets are not in vain probing its weaknesses.

          Not only. It is forbidden to bring down Jews over Lebanon and the Mediterranean under international law, and they should attack over a sovereign state and hide behind a civilian corridor, as Yahweh ordered. We, acre of multi-layered air defense, have every right to shoot down 20 km from the border, Syria does not. Therefore, the sons of Israel commit atrocities with impunity hi
          Well, in general, Yasha is already ours and already speaks Mi and the Russian people bully But in air defense, like in a nanobubble - you still saw a nanobublik, But what is it like? - Ask Yasha, he knows
      4. +14
        21 January 2019 18: 55
        Quote: 210ox

        To some extent, yes. But the specialists and equipment have been prepared by ours .... Maybe it’s not all about laying?

        The point is political will. If you respond to air strikes by strikes against the military bases of Israel, then Israel will begin to think before its every strike about its necessity.
        1. -5
          21 January 2019 20: 56
          Quote: the most important
          The point is political will. If you respond to air strikes by strikes against the military bases of Israel, then Israel will begin to think before its every strike about its necessity.

          who and what?
        2. 0
          22 January 2019 20: 20
          Quote: the most important
          The point is political will. If you respond to air strikes by strikes against the military bases of Israel, then Israel will begin to think before its every strike about its necessity.

          Now tell me - who exactly these blows can and most importantly is ready to inflict.
      5. +14
        21 January 2019 19: 28
        According to military reviews. Air defense instructors of the USSR Armed Forces participants in the Arab-Israeli wars, Arabs are lazy and stupid, hard-trained soldiers of Islam. Arabs' air defense losses from Israeli air strikes were monstrous. Yes, and ours went. What has changed in the mentality of warriors over the years. I think nothing.
      6. +7
        21 January 2019 22: 34
        Quote: 210ox
        Maybe it’s not a gasket, anyway?


        only if the gasket from the "Carapace" with its full complement rushed to cast or devour, leaving the car to "shine" in position.
        The work of the Syrian air defense should begin to work and bring down the threat right in the airspace of Lebanon and not sit and click and hope that the "Shell" will intercept everything.
        The Russian authorities value Israel’s relations and interests above their own and above their own prestige.

        The situation is such that the USSR defended not only itself but also its allies, and modern Russia does not even protect its citizens. Russians are killed, burned, raped right under the fences in Ukraine, and we chew snot.
        In the West, there is more and more confidence that whatever modern weapon Russia does not have, it will not risk using the power of Russia. They believe that the Russian government would rather open the doors of the fortress "Russia" and surrender us all, for them we are not a people and whose slaves are not sorry.
        It is surprising that Russia has someone in its allies if the Russian government from the beginning of the 90s to the present has constantly surrendered and throws everyone, both inside the country and abroad.
        1. 0
          22 January 2019 14: 40
          Do not subtract, do not add. Exactly "!
    3. -4
      21 January 2019 18: 03
      while the "single air defense system" in Syria is lining up. The blind man is driving, and the deaf tells him ........
      1. +5
        21 January 2019 18: 06
        Sooner or later, the bombing of Syria will end with the downing of an Israeli plane. And Benya will win the appointment for GDP.
        1. 0
          21 January 2019 20: 57
          Quote: Bearded
          Sooner or later, the bombing of Syria will end with the downing of an Israeli plane.

          one has already been hit. So what?
        2. +1
          22 January 2019 20: 22
          Quote: Bearded

          Sooner or later, the bombing of Syria will end with the downing of an Israeli aircraft

          This is the norm and quite expected. For the first time in 30 years, a plane was shot down. Disassembled the reasons and went further. There are goals and objectives
    4. +37
      21 January 2019 18: 05
      Only the loss of their aircraft will discourage Israel from bombing foreign territory.
      1. +16
        21 January 2019 18: 10
        Behave as the behavior and reaction of Russia. Otherwise, there would be much more complaisant.
        1. +4
          21 January 2019 18: 38
          They behave this way because Syria and Israel have been at war since 1948, i.e. since the formation of Israel.
          1. +8
            21 January 2019 20: 41
            Well then, Syria can safely bombard and bomb Israel! Why not shoot down their planes and bomb their airfield !? Or is only Israel at war?
            1. +10
              21 January 2019 20: 58
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Well then, Syria can safely bombard and bomb Israel! Why not shoot down their planes and bomb their airfield !? Or able Is war only Israel?

              able is one who is able.
      2. +3
        22 January 2019 12: 10
        Quote: Egorovich
        Only the loss of their aircraft will discourage Israel from bombing foreign territory.

        I agree. I will add - the arrival of Syrian missiles at bases in Israel, in response to the shelling of Syria, hot heads will cool well
    5. +7
      21 January 2019 18: 10
      The problem is that the main gasket is in the Kremlin!
      1. +8
        21 January 2019 18: 15
        Obviously, in the video, the "shell" was "empty", not in readiness, such a goal with Israel's successful use of UAVs (and guidance), it was a sin not to let it go, well done, what to say, you need to learn from them. and the "cons" to myself ......
        1. +1
          21 January 2019 18: 36
          obviously, in the video, the "shell" was "empty",

          In my opinion, the video clearly shows the launch of two rockets with the Shell.
          1. +6
            21 January 2019 22: 38
            In the same way, it is clear that he fired end-to-end missiles, and the rocket simply did not have time to aim at the target. I will assume that he ran out of cartridges, he saw the Delilah, and was shooting as much as he could. With cannons, he would have shot her down from such a distance. It is possible that Israel, for the sake of a spectacular shot, worked on one "depletion" complex, the video from an approaching rocket shows how it explodes, which means that another rocket was flying in front.
          2. 0
            22 January 2019 09: 42
            starts can be seen, just what? Where did you see the Shell in the first twenty seconds?
        2. +17
          21 January 2019 18: 40
          Quote: Aerodrome
          obviously, in the video, the "shell" was "empty", not ready

          Obviously, the Jews hit the REGULAR FORCES of Syria, and not Hebollah, as they like to sing here, like nightingales. Shell had an open cockpit, in which there was no one, the radar was not spinning, and the guns were at an angle. There are two options: either the Syrians did not learn anything after the first time, or the air defense system shot everything to the "piece of iron" and stood blank, unable to defend itself.
          And that's all if this video is not fake.
          1. -5
            21 January 2019 19: 15
            The engine is hot, and the guns are not hot. Piled away from sin
          2. +4
            21 January 2019 19: 34
            Quote: NEXUS
            The air defense missile system shot everything down to the "piece of iron" and stood blank, unable to defend itself.

            inclined to this option. otherwise a zoo.
          3. +1
            21 January 2019 21: 38
            Just prayer time ...
            1. +2
              21 January 2019 22: 35
              During the fighting, prayer is not obligatory for the faithful.
        3. +14
          21 January 2019 18: 48
          In order for the Israelis not to catch the shells on reloading, you need to have backup shells so that they would cover their own when reloading. But all the same, these measures will not save in a massive attack. since there simply will not be enough missiles to be fired, and reloading takes time, the most dangerous interval. On the good, it is necessary to build air defense systems so that they overlap each other, insure neighbors. There must be a "long, medium and small hand" determination to use the complexes - courage when deciding to shoot down the enemy even over the territory of the neighboring state - Lebanon. But such an air defense alignment will require a large amount of equipment and personnel. And to disperse forces is a gift for enemies. What is needed is courage and determination to use complexes when deciding to shoot down an aggressor even over the territory of the neighboring state of Lebanon.
          1. 0
            21 January 2019 19: 56
            Quote: elmi

            To prevent the Israelis from catching shells on reloading, you need to have reserve shells so that they cover their shells when reloading

            this must not be public. why it wasn’t a question that has answers in almost all the comments, so they don’t know how to fight as an adult.
      2. -1
        21 January 2019 18: 22
        in your place of the brain gasket .... stupid provocateur.
        1. -10
          21 January 2019 18: 28
          All sorts of ugly things are happening in Syria or, say, in the Donbass, solely as a result of the "cunning plans" of Mr. Putin. And not at all from the curvature of some Syrian operators or Donetsk miners.
          1. +2
            21 January 2019 23: 04
            Quote: Roma-1977
            All kinds of ugly things are happening in Syria or, say, in the Donbass solely as a result of the "cunning plans" of Mr. Putin.

            Do you think that Russia should defend Syria until the last Russian soldier? Let Syria be part of the Russian Federation - then the question of its security will immediately be raised to a different level!
            1. 0
              24 January 2019 19: 53
              Nidaibokh! Syria with its problems was not enough.
              1. 0
                24 January 2019 21: 56
                Quote: Roma-1977
                Nidaibokh! Syria with its problems was not enough.

                It is clear that this will not happen. One should not expect more from Russia in Syria than agreed.
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    7. -2
      22 January 2019 04: 34
      What does the gasket have to do with it?
      How much aviation equipment of the Russian Federation is lost in Syria?
      Turks shot down - 1
      ISIS - 1
      Do not land on an aircraft carrier - 2
      Downed Syrians - 1
      And these are only planes, not counting helicopters! And not counting the losses of the Syrians.
      How many Syria air defense systems destroyed?

      Now, how many planes did Israel or the United States lose?
      Yes, and two Su-34s collided, again the loss of what is already so small!
    8. 0
      22 January 2019 08: 46
      The thing is the gasket, which is in the Kremlin
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  2. -15
    21 January 2019 18: 02
    Once again, after the Israeli missile strike on the territory of Syria enter into business experts,

    When did Yasha Kazakov become an expert?
    1. +1
      21 January 2019 18: 08
      Quote: professor
      Once again, after the Israeli missile strike on the territory of Syria enter into business experts,

      When did Yasha Kazakov become an expert?

      How came to Russia and the business here opened ..)))
      But while this system does not work.

      And in this Kedmi is right, and you know it in Israel .. Work is underway and ours are waiting for the real goal, and not four fighters firing somewhere from far away ..
      Fly closer and then we'll see .. soldier
      1. -7
        21 January 2019 18: 14
        Quote: Freemason
        The work is underway and ours are waiting for the real goal.


        He has been waiting for a real goal for a very long time. laughing
      2. +3
        21 January 2019 18: 22
        Quote: Freemason
        Fly closer

        Jews look like idiots ??? .... this will never happen!
        1. +9
          21 January 2019 18: 53
          Quote: Sandor Clegane
          Quote: Freemason
          Fly closer

          Jews look like idiots ??? .... this will never happen!

          It depends on what and how to lure .. bully
          You read them, they’re right in euphoria, from their impunity and the power of their air defense and air force .. Well
          They will lower them sooner or later to the sinful earth. And then they just got inspired!
          1. -5
            21 January 2019 21: 03
            Quote: Freemason
            It depends on what and how to lure ..
            You read them, they’re right in euphoria, from their impunity and the power of their air defense and air force .. Well

            euphoria in Israel does not allow itself since 1967.
            here both military and civilians know that everything has to be paid by the bills.
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      1. -14
        21 January 2019 18: 17
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        professor (impostor) ... Compared to other "experts" from Israel, Jacob at least frankly not lying

        Right he is not lying openly laughing
        1. -1
          21 January 2019 18: 38
          Right he lies not frankly laughing

          Generally an interesting character. I wonder why he says what he says. And for which audience? How true this is is a separate issue.
          1. +13
            21 January 2019 19: 06
            Yasha is an honest worker of the propaganda front for Israel, a native of the USSR, he knows the Russian Federation well, so he works for Israel in the Russian media. Who allows him to enter the main media is another question, perhaps it has been settled at a higher level ... After all, they are used to considering the citizens of the Russian Federation as cattle, and to give "hay" of propaganda, indistinguishable from lies, for the needs of the government and the oligarchy ...
      2. +7
        21 January 2019 18: 59
        Quote: Vladimir 5
        professor (impostor) ... Compared to other "experts" from Israel, Jacob at least openly does not lie and tries to smooth things out ...

        Yes, the same .. The professor will come to Russia and the business will spin, he will do this to me, Kedmi will chatter at times ..)))))
        The nature of them is such-vane .. ha ha ha
        Remember Vaserman, then there was a popular one, formerly a terry anti-Stalinist and so on (something was missing) And then he was just a starter of Stalin and the USSR))))
    3. -15
      21 January 2019 18: 12
      Since I began to work for Solovyov. I prefer Satanovsky, who personally knows Abas, the military from the Israeli General Staff, Karabas-Barabas, etc.
      PS Interestingly, Mahmoud Abas is aware that he is familiar with Evgeny Yanovich Satanovsky?
      1. +6
        21 January 2019 18: 19
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Interestingly, Mahmoud Abas is aware that he is familiar with Evgeny Yanovich Satanovsky?

        Abbas 84 of the year, with his Alzheimer, he has new friends every day.
        1. -2
          21 January 2019 18: 21
          And new wives))
          Honey, I came to fulfill my conjugal duty ...
    4. +14
      21 January 2019 18: 20
      Quote: professor
      When did Yasha Kazakov become an expert?

      and when suddenly Olezha Sokolov became a military specialist in fakes and performance characteristics of all the military equipment of the world?
      1. +11
        21 January 2019 18: 26
        how when He is also Odessa and part-time Ukrainian, and now parasitizes in a place with immigrants from the republics of the former USSR on the body of the state of Israel.
        1. +8
          21 January 2019 18: 33
          Quote: ser65
          and this hour is parasitic in a place with immigrants from the republics of the former USSR on the body of the state of Israel.

          always looking for where a freebie? .... start right now, a full-scale Israeli-Iranian war .... and Olezh like skiing will sharpen? ..... betraying times will betray many more times ....
      2. +2
        21 January 2019 23: 12
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        Quote: professor
        When did Yasha Kazakov become an expert?

        and when suddenly Olezha Sokolov became a military specialist in fakes and performance characteristics of all the military equipment of the world?

        ---
        maybe money and popularity
      3. -1
        22 January 2019 20: 25
        Quote: Sandor Clegane
        and when suddenly Olezha Sokolov became a military specialist in fakes and performance characteristics of all the military equipment of the world?

        At the same time when Danila Dmitrievich stopped being a polite and cultured boy, and became a stupid boor
        1. +1
          22 January 2019 21: 31
          Quote: Pimply
          but became a stupid boor

          justify the rough!
    5. +4
      21 January 2019 20: 55
      You can’t understand the Jews Petya Valtsman becomes Petro Poroshenko and Yasha Kazakov becomes Yakov Kedmi. Can’t you just leave the surname as your father got, or is it not kosher?
      1. +7
        21 January 2019 21: 08
        Quote: Pivot
        You can’t understand the Jews Petya Valtsman becomes Petro Poroshenko and Yasha Kazakov becomes Yakov Kedmi. Can’t you just leave the surname as your father got, or is it not kosher?

        They are always encrypted, even on our website the flags were banned. For their sake, so that they could not figure out ..)))) And they cleaned them up. For those who know them all)))
        All generals and marshals already)))) Now they can not be squeezed out by anything .. wassat
    6. 0
      22 January 2019 03: 27
      Dear professor, if Yasha drives Bibi, is he a goy for you?
  3. +6
    21 January 2019 18: 08
    The main Jew, for whatever, promised Putin. Because I just don’t understand why they didn’t use the S-300 and EW.
    1. -12
      21 January 2019 18: 25
      Quote: Fungus
      Because I just don’t understand why they didn’t use the S-300 and EW.

      Because they are useless, and the Jews know this.
      1. +2
        21 January 2019 18: 54
        Is not a fact. They have not been used yet. Cunning Yervey bullets at the airport. And there you can’t use the reb. Civil aircraft will crash ....
    2. +10
      21 January 2019 18: 26
      The main Jew, for whatever, promised Putin.
      Yes, there are now such solitaire games ...
      The geldings allegedly announced their withdrawal, while hinting Turkey to act (and promised nishtyaks, which Israel used to receive as a favorite bobby of geldings in BV). At the same time, Trump kicked Israel (saying that we were giving them money anyway, let them defend themselves - that is, he made it clear that the Turks could become their favorite bobby instead of Jews). The Sultan's verbal picks began with Bibi (i.e. competitors for the love of geldings). The Sultan is afraid to trust the geldings, Bibi wants to regain trust (especially since his Israeli natives are ready to fry and devour). The best bobby is the one who will attack Syria. To somehow calm the people down, Bibi informs the people about the successful attacks of the Israeli "falcons" (not to be confused with the professor). People squeals with joy lol
      In short, there is fun now. bully
    3. +4
      21 January 2019 22: 40
      Quote: Fungus
      The main Jew, for whatever, promised Putin. Because I just don’t understand why they didn’t use the S-300 and EW.

      Firstly, they were waiting for the plane, which returned to Iran and for the 1st night shelling, so the electronic warfare and the ball were turned off, 2 relaxed and did not wait for the 2nd raid., As the video shows the more tracers about cannon fire were not on the video the shell was not restless or shot everything, but what is surprising on the camera of the rocket that hit the Shell is not any light if it or the infrared imager set by the rocket engines should be large, especially since the video missiles flew a millimeter from the rocket. I think, but I didn’t shoot anything at this rocket, I left the battle, especially since there were 2 raids, night and morning, and all this smoke and rockets going to the camera were painted to show that the Jewish rockets weren’t taking anything, it’s a pure PR. Jews in Syria have a good spy or there was a special forces group, between the raids it was reported that there was a terrorist attack in Damascus at night, or they blew up. I just don’t understand why there is no good wiretapping in Syria and Iran and Russia, the SPY HOW did the signal to Israel?
    4. 0
      22 January 2019 01: 14
      Quote: Fungus
      The main Jew, for whatever, promised Putin. Because I just don’t understand why they didn’t use the S-300 and EW.

      And the curvature?
  4. +22
    21 January 2019 18: 09
    Yes, there is no normal defense without attack. If the Syrians had eaten each bombardment of their territory with a missile bombing attack on Israel, then there would have been no shelling of Syria for a long time ...
    As the corpses of the Jews go in shoals, aggression is their end.
    1. 0
      21 January 2019 20: 21
      The forces are not comparable, there’s nothing to really beat, and the weak is always beaten and humiliated. That's when Syria gets up there, the conversation will begin differently.
      1. +9
        21 January 2019 21: 07
        Who will let Syria get on its feet !? Bombing Syria, bombing Russia. Only indirectly. It was Russia that supplied air defense systems there. This is Russia organizing a defense system there. And these attacks are no longer in Syria. These are attacks on Russia, on the Russian Defense Ministry. These blows should show the world that Russia is dumb! So dumb that he can’t even organize the defense of individual objects! And judging by the systematic raids, they are right at 100%! And what is this talking about? This suggests that Russia can be beaten further and for this there will be nothing from Russia! Nothing! This is an invitation to kick Russia! You see, they cannot even answer small Israel! Baltic states can’t! Ukraine can not! This is an invitation to Derban Russia. And the more often they bomb with impunity, the clearer this will be understood by the world community. And the more impudently behave towards Russia. That's what the shelling means. And while Russia is stupidly tightening a noose on its throat.
        1. +3
          21 January 2019 21: 32
          You can land a couple of Israeli planes, or put Syrian cars on them, you can give systems for a retaliatory strike, but for this you need to have iron eggs and not worried officials.
        2. +1
          21 January 2019 21: 41
          But it would be even better to force both parties to sign a peace treaty.
          1. +1
            21 January 2019 21: 46
            I think the signing of a peace treaty will do nothing. The latest example is the Minsk agreements. Also, a kind of peace treaty.
      2. 0
        22 January 2019 01: 15
        Quote: Herman 4223
        Syria will rise nano
        And they are now on their knees, chtoli?
  5. -9
    21 January 2019 18: 10
    You need to put on chain mail under the shell.
  6. -3
    21 January 2019 18: 11
    Quote: Fungus

    The main Jew, for whatever, promised Putin.

    Shelter, what else ...
  7. +19
    21 January 2019 18: 13
    Jews will not calm down until they begin to shoot down not only their missiles, but also the planes themselves, and no matter what airspace they are in, whether Jewish, Lebanese or Syrian. there is a fact of attack - get an answer. Yes, at least on the airfields themselves sausage. Jews do not hesitate to attack airfields when they are used by civilian planes, that is, they consider this acceptable.
    When they themselves are forced to eat the "porridge" they brewed, then the alignment will change.
    So far, the "giveaway game" like "we launch rockets, try to catch". negative
    1. +7
      21 January 2019 18: 33
      Conflict with Israel is not part of Russia's plans. The war in Syria is not for this.
      1. 0
        22 January 2019 01: 16
        Quote: Roma-1977
        Conflict with Israel is not part of Russia's plans.
        There are no plans in Russia, but even very Iranians’ plans
  8. -16
    21 January 2019 18: 22
    Because monkeys don't have to trust technology. Their limit is the invention of new types of bridles for a camel. If at that time there were calculations from the Russian Federation, then the result would be different.
    1. +7
      21 January 2019 18: 27
      Quote: universe1
      If at that time there were calculations from the Russian Federation, then the result would be different.

      Instead of 4 corpses of Arabs, would there be 4 zinc for shipment to Russia?
      1. -12
        21 January 2019 18: 29
        Yes, they launched rockets into the sky, it can be seen in the video. Unless trained calculation can not bring down an ideal target flying in a straight line.
        1. +7
          21 January 2019 19: 45
          Quote: universe1
          Unless trained calculation can not bring down an ideal target flying in a straight line.

          You are either very young or not at all aware of how air defense missiles work, or maybe both. smile
        2. +5
          21 January 2019 21: 07
          Quote: universe1
          Yes, they launched rockets into the sky, it can be seen in the video. Unless trained calculation can not bring down an ideal target flying in a straight line.

          you are just a masterpiece.
          ps ideal goals today can only be found in mousetraps.
        3. Hey
          0
          21 January 2019 21: 29
          Unless trained calculation can not bring down an ideal target flying in a straight line.

          Any anti-aircraft system has a "dead zone" or "funnel" located above it, where it cannot reach the enemy with anything. Not a cannon, not a rocket. And if the enemy's missile hits this unprotected zone and hits from above, no matter how trained the crew is, it's all over. The video shows that the Israeli missile penetrated this "dead zone" of the Pantsyr, so the guns were not used. It looks like the missiles could not capture the target, there was no illumination by the guidance station, there was a failure to capture the target.
          1. +3
            21 January 2019 22: 43
            Quote: MUD
            Any anti-aircraft system has a "dead zone" or "funnel" located above it, where it cannot reach the enemy with anything. Not a cannon, not a rocket.

            All this is understandable. But it looks like a classic - the grenades in our system are not the same or all the time something (someone) interferes.
    2. +8
      21 January 2019 18: 32
      No. The result would be the same. In Syria there is no complete air defense system, and no one is going to create it. Moreover, preemptive strikes against Israeli aircraft.
      1. -1
        21 January 2019 18: 34
        Roma, the Shell has its own radar, what are you talking about? And besides the radio channel there is also a television and infrared detection channels. There is a poorly trained calculation.
        1. +2
          21 January 2019 19: 03
          There is. But on a small radius. Blows were delivered from unrequited distance.
          1. 0
            21 January 2019 19: 27
            We are talking about different things. What do you misunderstand in the principles of the air defense system.
            1. +6
              21 January 2019 19: 46
              As for the carriers, the carapace could not work, but by the means themselves it did not work, because he himself was their target (of several). I about it. A trained calculation would not help. Simultaneous blow from several sides, and there is no one to cover.
    3. +1
      22 January 2019 20: 26
      Quote: universe1

      Because monkeys do not have to trust the technique. Their limit is the invention of new types of bridles for a camel.

      You charm about your allies
      1. 0
        24 January 2019 12: 38
        These are your allies. And, by the way, the Ukrainians are the same as for the USA. A tool of big politics.
  9. 0
    21 January 2019 18: 25
    The video shows that two rockets from the Shell passed by, the rocket was not shot down.
    1. +12
      21 January 2019 18: 34
      So he was attacked with a whole bunch of missiles - he hit priority targets - those missiles that were closer to the "Shell"! There was simply not enough ammunition for all the Jewish missiles.
      1. 0
        22 January 2019 20: 27
        Quote: ANCIENT
        All Jewish missiles simply lacked ammunition.

        According to the latest information, the Shell has been destroyed by the baiting ammunition.
  10. +8
    21 January 2019 18: 26
    Until the Israelis suffer permanent human loss, they will not calm down. Is it enough for the Russian / Iranian / Syrian leaders to stop this shame - we will see ...
  11. +6
    21 January 2019 18: 30
    I’m what I can’t understand, not being a povoshnik ... how much time do you need to set up an effective air defense system for the territory in question, provided that you have the necessary equipment and specialists? 5-7 years old? or maybe 48 hours ...?
    1. +6
      21 January 2019 19: 05
      48 hours, of course, is not enough. Few months. And very expensive for the money. This is a whole group. Offhand there are only more than 20 people. And echelons of technology. And this is only air defense. And they will need more and okromya forces.
      1. +2
        21 January 2019 21: 08
        Thanks, okay. And then submit scanty information (no offense to the site’s editing, just these are modern realities everywhere) has become commonplace ...
  12. +5
    21 January 2019 18: 31
    Stupidity said Cadmi! As long as the Kremlin plays political games with the top of Israel, nothing good will happen, not for the Syrians, not for Russia. Israel needs to be firmly put in place, shooting down their planes. A country that considers itself strong will understand only another force as an argument to oppose its ambitions.
  13. +9
    21 January 2019 18: 31
    Well, Kedmi did not say anything new, it is necessary to create a normal air defense system, and this requires huge investments and a trained personnel. Syria does not have money and Russia is not in a condition to push such money there, because the Air Force and the principle of the IDF are a very expensive and high-tech thing , only the new and the modern must be delivered in the counterweight. Therefore, Israel will have full dominance.
    1. +2
      21 January 2019 21: 17
      Well yes! Russia is not able to! And she is able to push into personal states! Maybe it's better not to buy estates with yachts and personal planes and helicopters?
      1. +1
        22 January 2019 02: 10
        Quote: Mister Creed
        And she is able to push into personal states! Maybe it's better not to buy estates with yachts and personal planes and helicopters?

        Russian paradox in this.
  14. -6
    21 January 2019 18: 32
    Native
    Liaison Office "Nativ" (Hebrew לִשְׁכַּת הַקֶּשֶׁר - נָתִי Л, Lishkat ha-kesher - Nativ) is an Israeli state institution subordinate to the Office of the Head of Government, created to liaise with the Jews of the Soviet Union and Eastern European countries, to coordinate the struggle for their right to repatriation and organization of their departure to Israel. Currently, he deals mainly with Jews from the CIS and the Baltic countries.


    This Yasha was the head of a very serious intelligence organization (sarcasm) for a couple of years. Directly Mi 6,7,8 and still 9.
    And now Solovyov’s nightingale is singing what the Kremlin wants to hear, or rather, what the Russian people want in the Kremlin to hear from the box and even from a foreigner in practice. Great expert in all areas. Do not want him to Russia for permanent residence?
    1. -3
      21 January 2019 18: 58
      The same special as the representatives of the German parliament who came to Crimea. More precisely laughing and more precisely, the Russian-speaking German, with an article for fraud.
  15. +3
    21 January 2019 18: 45
    Just as doctors should treat the disease and not its symptoms, so air defense should hit the airplanes and not the rockets or bombs fired by them
    Well, or you need to shoot down NOT ONLY bombs and rockets and then talking heads will look for other explanations
    1. +1
      21 January 2019 19: 53
      "Carapace" is tailored for close air defense, to shoot down missiles on approach to the target. It should be covered by long-range "Buks" and even more long-range "S-300", working both by means and by carriers. But all this should work in a single system and, if possible, overlap all heights and perimeter without gaps. And this is difficult.
      1. +1
        21 January 2019 20: 06
        Did I mention that carriers need to be knocked down with shells?
        The second one. Beeches and other S-XXX do not cover the shell. They cover objects. And already, in turn, they are covered with shells
  16. +5
    21 January 2019 18: 46
    Russia will not shoot down Israeli missiles. This is a fact. Swear, express ,, deep concern, "but not shoot down.
  17. +1
    21 January 2019 18: 48
    but in order to stop these strikes, a strong Iran is needed, only he can put in the place of the "chosen by God", which is why the chain mongrel Israel and its master the United States are ready to do anything to prevent the strengthening of this country ...
    1. -2
      21 January 2019 19: 51
      Does Russia need a strong Iran?
      1. +4
        21 January 2019 21: 26
        Does Russia need Iran like Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan? Will such an option of Iran suit Russia? What kind of buns will Russia have from such Iran? Those that it will be a poor and warring country that sells oil at bargain prices? Then will Gazprom and Rosneft come with PMCs there, and they will take this cheap oil while doing business?
        1. -2
          21 January 2019 22: 40
          Iran arranges Russia to feel weaker than it is today. IMHO.
  18. +5
    21 January 2019 18: 54
    More than once I was convinced that in Syria we act according to the principle - "Hit on the left cheek - substitute the right one." There was never any response, neither a coalition with the Americans, nor Israel, nor the Turks. Many of our soldiers were killed, and even more Syrian allies as a result of our unintelligible policy. What are we doing there? The gas pipeline from Qatar was cut down, okay, what's next?
    The only spoonful of honey in this story may be that we also do not benefit from the growth of Iranian influence in Syria. Iran is fellow travelers, but not friends. It can also be noted that the failure to use our electronic warfare systems during the raids is possibly due to the unwillingness to show their characteristics to the "partners". But the development of military technology is impossible without using it in combat conditions.
    The deterrence of Iran within the framework of our alliance can also be solved by other methods, without leading to the death of people, the humiliation of our new technology and the constant bombing of Damascus International Airport. We probably don’t have an experienced team of military-political advisers, only talking heads on TV.
    1. +2
      21 January 2019 19: 07
      That's right. Iran is a fellow traveler, but not an ally for Russia, and at the same time an enemy of Israel, which (Israel) for Russia is, on the contrary, a welcome partner.
    2. 0
      22 January 2019 09: 51
      Quote: Pythagoras
      More than once I was convinced that in Syria we act according to the principle - "Hit on the left cheek - substitute the right one." There was never any response, neither a coalition with the Americans, nor Israel, nor the Turks. Many of our soldiers were killed, and even more Syrian allies as a result of our unintelligible policy. What are we doing there?
      - I am embarrassed to remind: during the USSR, practically the same thing was the same word for word. USSR too for some reason I have never given your so beloved "answer" - in any of the wars waged by the Arabs against Israel. No bombing on Israel's airfields, no strike by tank divisions on Tel Aviv, no nuclear weapons strike for large cities .... Money / The USSR always gave the Arabs plenty of weapons - but to fight: "By yourself, exclusively by yourself !!" ...
      Strange, huh?
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    1. 0
      22 January 2019 20: 29
      Quote: Jacob Kedmi

      Bomb this israel to hell

      Vdarim, be sure to vdarim! The whole world is in dust! But then. (with)
  20. +6
    21 January 2019 19: 05
    The weakness of preparing local specialists is understandable. The clan system, even their own, Arabs, noble merchants can merge. Incomplete air defense system? I doubt, the question here is that the system should control everything that takes off from Israeli airfields and I doubt that the Syrians do not understand this. Israel has no other airfields, but who slows down and at what level retaliatory attacks on fighter jets is not clear.
    1. 0
      21 January 2019 21: 30
      Apparently at the highest level do not give a command. Why? There are probably reasons.
  21. +1
    21 January 2019 19: 07
    With Arabs, everything has been clear since the start of the Arab-Israeli conflict. In terms of suitability as crews of combat vehicles, their value is zero. They only fight with spears and stones. And military equipment, especially as complex as air defense systems, in their hands turns into useless scrap metal. So no matter how our experts try to train them, all this is useless.
  22. +3
    21 January 2019 19: 07
    Speaking Israel, we must not forget to say the United States, they go in one bundle in the region. Syrian air defense reflects the attack, the fire is conducted on the released ammunition, but on aircraft that are outside Syrian airspace. Make an attempt to open them ahead of schedule by airplanes, such a howl in the democratic world will rise about Assad’s bloody regime, therefore there is only a dull defense, which gives a tactical advantage to the enemy. We will not forget about the United States, which clearly takes part in collecting data on the capabilities of Syrian air defense consisting of weapons supplied by Russia, not only to Syria, but also to Iran. At present, it would be necessary for Iran to scurry around and put on the cover of the Syrian complexes, its air defense systems, for one they were trained in a combat situation.
  23. +2
    21 January 2019 19: 13
    I do not see any problems. I see only the military exercises of two armies. Each is trying to learn something about the enemy and his technique and tactics. The scale of the database is small, the losses are scanty. Combat experience is much more important.
  24. 0
    21 January 2019 19: 14
    Of the Syrians, the same warriors as of the Egyptians. No wonder they were at one time in one republic - the United Arab Republic. Therefore, Jews beat both those and others.
  25. +5
    21 January 2019 19: 20
    Quote: professor
    Once again, after the Israeli missile strike on the territory of Syria enter into business experts,

    When did Yasha Kazakov become an expert?

    Maybe when you became a professor? belay lol
  26. -3
    21 January 2019 19: 21
    In a nutshell about the comments: Jews cannot be trusted. Cedmie can what logical guys. Let's still
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      1. +4
        21 January 2019 23: 11
        Is that what you called the Armored Field?
        1. -1
          22 January 2019 09: 11
          Quote: flicker
          Is that what you called the Armored Field?

          Yes. Wrong. I apologize. request
      2. 0
        22 January 2019 11: 05
        Quote: brigadir
        (Etus ... Gaft is a Jew by birth, was baptized - it doesn’t count)

        What does it mean not counting?
        Quote: brigadir
        And there are no new / young Jews in the artists (all kinds of comedians like Sparrow do not count)

        Again, it doesn’t count, I see that counting is your hobby! fellow
        And where do we get Jewish artists, if according to the data of the SOKHNUT Jews in Russia are left with a gulkin's nose, although try to watch the dear one, for a start, the film "Liquidation"! wassat
    2. 0
      22 January 2019 11: 40
      Jews cannot be trusted. Cedmie can be logical guys
      Both Kedmi and Satanovsky stoke for Israel, another thing is that each of them has its own point of view (and not quotes from the Talmud), which does not always coincide with the so-called. Israeli leadership, the role of Israel in BV, its dependence on the United States.
      Believing, not believing is everyone’s personal choice.
  27. +3
    21 January 2019 19: 30
    Why not shoot down these missiles at the start, in Jewishstan, or shoot at the caliber of a position, which is too shy there. Pend.osnya in open war, Jewish-there too.
    1. 0
      21 January 2019 19: 56
      Syria does not have "Calibers", and they will never be given them.
  28. 0
    21 January 2019 19: 30
    It seems to me that the matter is not in specialists, but in the fact that ours do not get into a showdown between Iran and Israel because it is impossible to argue with neither of these now. We’re fighting the type of Iranians together in Syria, but each for his own interest and with Israel, too, is not the time to seriously bite. And Iran, it only manages to make statements, although they are being bombed and threatened in the open. But we think it’s not worthwhile to climb there. We have enough of our problems.
  29. +9
    21 January 2019 19: 40
    in Georgia, upon graduation from school, young men are given the "Thief in Law" crust. And in Israel the crust of "international expert". (from noticed)
  30. +5
    21 January 2019 19: 51
    Judging by the results of the anti-air battle, for the Shell it’s necessary to double at least twice the missiles and three times the trunks. In addition, the Torahs of the Buka 300ka should work for the carriers. the result is this: it beats the shell to whom it can reach, and if the link is f16, the bk of the Shell will be pulled with rackets for five minutes, beckoning completely.
  31. +5
    21 January 2019 19: 58
    It is necessary to bring down carriers before the release of rockets and raids will stop. Now we play by their rules; we lose people; they are rockets. It is evident that the political will is not enough, the main thing is that bank accounts and children abroad should not be touched.
    1. +1
      21 January 2019 21: 15
      Quote: tank64rus
      It is necessary to bring down carriers before the release of rockets and raids will stop. Now we play by their rules

      do not confuse your coat with state
      the "game" on the battlefield is not with Russia but with Syria.
  32. +1
    21 January 2019 20: 03
    "But so far this system does not work. But the more efficiently such a system works, the more problems it will cause Israel." - how wrong he is (((((While the buttons of this system are sitting by the Russian military who are led by the Sly Spineless Cowardly Guide), the system cannot be effective, Even though you put lasers and proton guns there !!! hi
  33. 0
    21 January 2019 20: 14
    What is the territory of Syria? On military installations .....
  34. +3
    21 January 2019 20: 21
    Well, to be honest, it’s a shame for my homeland. In November 14th, Turkey was discussed. Then the striped tomahawks, freely launched in Syria. Then the IL-20. And after the IL, it would seem that Israeli aviation should have quieted down, but no. They are increasing the number.
    With all my desire to see a great power in our country, there is a feeling that direct attacks on Crimea or Kaliningrad will also get away with partners. Tired of our planes knocking down all and sundry, and the territory where our specialists bomb.
    1. +1
      22 January 2019 01: 24
      Quote: dogens
      Tired of our planes knocking down all and sundry
      Calm down, here the Jews and the Syrians took revenge.
  35. DPN
    0
    21 January 2019 20: 37
    He and the scout, so as not to be mistaken.
    In general, either there is not enough power or is it profitable for someone, and this is why they are bombing.
  36. +1
    21 January 2019 20: 59
    Israel at the moment clearly does not see any problems for the bombing - be it a technical or political background.

    Strange statement of the question. You might think that Israel once worried about who and what will say about its actions.
  37. +2
    21 January 2019 21: 03
    Yes, they wanted to fuck in the Russian Federation and its air defense. And Moscow will not offend its brothers in faith, so for a look the cheeks are puffed and that's it .....
  38. 0
    21 January 2019 21: 15
    Our anti-aircraft shit. Never knocking anyone down. Besides civilian aircraft. Stop fooling the people. Our government can only give an answer in the face of higher prices and retirement age.
    1. 0
      22 January 2019 10: 00
      Quote: dgoncovch
      Our anti-aircraft shit. Never knocking anyone down. Besides civilian aircraft. Stop fooling the people. Our government can only give an answer in the face of higher prices and retirement age.
      -for you personally: do you need a war with Israel? I recall having Nuclear weapons?
      but about the "hyped" - this is his ALL they want .....
  39. +1
    21 January 2019 21: 29
    The point is in the incomprehensible policy of Moscow. Why can’t Israel be banned from striking Syria? I do not understand the meaning of the presence of the Russian military contingent in this region, if it is ironed with missiles, everyone is not lazy. Some destroy infrastructure and civilians, others periodically damage the international airfield, still others have gathered an army, have appointed terrorists and are about to send in their troops and occupy the territory of a foreign state. The question is what is Russia doing there? We are waiting for the next couple of dozen of our guys to die from friendly fire?
    1. +4
      21 January 2019 22: 22
      You forget that Israel is a regional superpower and it is able to oust not only Iran, but also Russia from Syria.
      Russia does not have the strength in Syria to oppose Israel, and there is no point in pulling forces to Syria for a war with Israel, Israel is also a nuclear power.
      1. +1
        21 January 2019 23: 05
        It is very difficult for couch patriots, if possible, to convince of this. Yes and no reason. It is enough that the command of the Russian army is well aware of what the opposition to the IDF on this theater may turn out to be. Therefore, if at least one rocket launcher is launched, but a rocket launcher towards Israel, then only by mistake.
    2. 0
      22 January 2019 01: 26
      Quote: watchmaker
      Why can’t Israel be banned from striking Syria?
      Can !!! And if you don’t obey?
  40. 0
    21 January 2019 21: 40
    Well what can I say
    1) Indestructible equipment does not exist.
    2) The maximum level of training that the Syrians can show is very low. This is probably enough to war with similar Arabs. But to resist Israel, to put it mildly, it’s not enough, I can hardly increase.
    3) Particularly zealous with the construction of Syrian air defense through the delivery of the latest systems is not worth it, because they will be just as stupidly lost.
    4) To get involved in the conflict between Israel, Syria and Iran in order to show this, as we here like to say "multifaceted", I see no sense. Because in this case, we will already really fight for other people's interests.
    5) Maybe it’s worth installing on the Shell C1 and other air defense systems a system for setting aerosol curtains?
  41. +1
    21 January 2019 21: 43
    Natanyahu's desire is not discussed. Other opinions are not taken into account, especially since the GDP complies with its instructions not to touch the Israeli aggressors.
  42. It seemed to me that the installations were destroyed by slow-moving drones ... although we do not know at what speed it was shot and at what video is shown. It is possible that the TOR and the Carapace notice them too late. Therefore, the launch of anti-aircraft missiles occurs late, they fire, immediately capture the target, but the target is already at the very installation and anti-aircraft missiles along some reverse self-destructing trajectory, trying to bring down air attack means on approach, they make a reverse zigzag. Whether the guns worked by means of attack is not clear. The reverse order is provided: first rockets, and closer guns.
    I think that the means of detection of these air defense systems detect air targets too late due to their complex technologies. In addition, missiles and UAVs are used - tricks that contribute to the useless use of air defense systems,
    Last time, there was also a video of destruction, also at a slow speed, although it was said that this was an anti-tank missile, allegedly. It is understood that the IDF will not disclose information.
    1. +1
      22 January 2019 00: 01
      Small cruise missiles from an airplane.
      But they are really slow: 0,5 - 0,7 MAX
      Last time - Spike. This is really a long-range (up to 25 km) ATGM
      Harpi kamikaze drones are also sometimes used for medium-sized important facilities.
      Tanks, for example.
      In stationary, where a large explosion power is not needed, planning
      Bombs.
      And, of course, target missiles are launched - baits for air defense.
  43. -1
    21 January 2019 22: 08
    All this is certainly good, but this will not stop until finally the S-300s are brought down by carriers, they won’t be able to shoot them down until Moscow allows it ... Here, many accuse India of constant dancing, not noticing how the Russian Federation is now dancing between Israel and Syria with Iran, but you can’t sit on two chairs and you need to decide who we are
    1. -1
      22 January 2019 10: 02
      Quote: spektr9
      Now Russia is dancing between Israel and Syria with Iran
      -Do you propose to start a war with Israel that owns nuclear weapons? It’s easier then to immediately cover Washington ....
      1. 0
        22 January 2019 12: 07
        -Do you propose to start a war with Israel that owns nuclear weapons? It’s easier then to immediately cover Washington ....

        I suggest that you don’t mow down with a fool about howling about the war, but provide real assistance to Syria, and not block use with 300
  44. 0
    21 January 2019 22: 27
    Yeah ... couch expert idiots came running ...)))) It was necessary, it was necessary ...))) You imagined yourself with tactics ?!))))))))))))) )
  45. -1
    21 January 2019 22: 38
    Shell and S-300-400 and so on is all zilch. For Israel and NATO, a long gone stage.
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  47. +2
    21 January 2019 22: 58
    Israel is compelled to systematically destroy everything that threatens it.
  48. +2
    21 January 2019 23: 09
    Jacob Kedim is not an expert and didn’t manage anything in Israel, an ordinary loafer of conservatives to the gross loot in the show. In one word, show business
  49. 0
    21 January 2019 23: 21
    Immediately after the Israeli setup of our IL, he predicted such a development of the situation when the Jews after a while would continue what they always did.
    It is sad if the second part of the assumption came true - the reasons for the continuation of the attacks.
    It was strange to watch how the Jews rushed about and did not attack, although there were no complexes yet, and they only mentioned a unified system ..... however, they did not dare. They got scared THEN.
    And now they are bolder, although it should have been the other way around.
    Suggests thoughts! Everyone there has their (political) goals. Found a compromise for everyone? Time will tell....
    1. +4
      22 January 2019 01: 02
      They immediately said that they would continue. They didn’t attack because they thought over and conducted reconnaissance. In a situation where the Syrians are passive with respect to the attacks of Israel, it will be so. And so they have no particular risk.
    2. I clarify the setups organized by the headless generals of MORF, VSK, SAA, SAR air defense.
  50. 0
    21 January 2019 23: 27
    sorry for people and new equipment, but the lack of funds to supply enough equipment, plus local staff, and even the arrogance of commanding in Syria will lead to such results
    1. -2
      22 January 2019 07: 27
      Quote: Victorio
      moreover, the arrogance of commanding in Syria will lead to such results

      on what basis is there "the arrogance of the supreme command in Syria"?
      Is Syrian, let’s call it TVD, was it so simple and smooth so far?
  51. +1
    22 January 2019 00: 10
    Money has been invested, but there is no confirmation that the air defense is operational. Or is it a matter of political will?
  52. +1
    22 January 2019 00: 24
    Another line in the charter written in blood(
    For reloading, the vehicle had to leave the position and go to the rear; if this is not possible, then during reloading it should be covered by neighboring crews, etc., etc. and we must also take into account that all Arabs and their neighbors are complete idiots, and in this case nothing will help.
    P.S. Air defense is systemic measures, echeloning, the availability of weapons and personnel, but in Syria it is more of a patchwork quilt stitched together in a hurry (For now..
  53. +1
    22 January 2019 00: 45
    The Iranians seem to have aviation. Why don't they shoot down kosher jets?
    1. +1
      22 January 2019 07: 29
      Quote: ROBIN-SON
      The Iranians seem to have aviation. Why don't they shoot down kosher jets?

      Perhaps if you think about it for a couple of minutes, several answer options will become clear to you.
  54. +4
    22 January 2019 00: 58
    The very fact of showing a television picture from a rocket flying towards Pantsir is a complete disgrace. This suggests that electronic warfare was not lying around there. And Israeli missiles are calmly controlled and transmit data via a radio channel and no one interferes with them using electronic warfare.
    Well, you can leave a lot more Shells there.
  55. -1
    22 January 2019 01: 06
    Yes, some kind of mess is happening with the Syrian air defense. It worked until there was such a massive Jewish attack on Syria, but the latter turned out to be massive and therefore more successful. But the S-300 air defense systems we supplied do not yet participate in air defense operations; there are no personnel. Therefore, Pantsiri and short-range air defense systems are still used.
  56. -1
    22 January 2019 02: 51
    How is it known for certain that the shells were destroyed? Someone also needs an inflatable woman, right?))
  57. +1
    22 January 2019 03: 13
    As long as the leadership remains cowardly, g2 will continue to bomb. These Eurofascists still have to answer for our plane. And most importantly, these cynical bastards from the Israeli caliphate come here to laugh.
    1. -1
      22 January 2019 07: 31
      Quote: aiden
      And most importantly, these cynical bastards from the Israeli caliphate come here to laugh.

      not to laugh, but to have a discussion, Gogel and all that.
      you swear a lot
    2. Who did you call Eurofascists? Is it really the generals of the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Air Defense Forces of the SAR? You're a truth teller!
  58. 0
    22 January 2019 05: 01
    In our government, the media, and, so to speak, creative people, 80% are people of Jewish nationality! That's why Israel doesn't have any serious problems. Seriously! Russia has the best weapons and army, but in international politics we behave like a rooster under the coop, there is a lot of ambition, but there is little sense, and everyone who is not too lazy is raped in all the cracks, and our politicians with their 100 Chinese warnings will make the whole world laugh. But the eternally unhappy little Israelis shit wherever they want and nothing. Everything is ok...getting away with it.
    1. 0
      22 January 2019 07: 35
      Quote: rusi4SPb
      In our government, the media, and, so to speak, creative people, 80% are people of Jewish nationality! That's why Israel doesn't have any serious problems.

      I sleep peacefully now.
      knowing that the Russian sons and daughters of Israel, artists, are on guard
      third temple. All actors and comedians, clowns, turn out to be warriors of Zion.
      thank you.
    2. 0
      22 January 2019 10: 10
      Quote: rusi4SPb
      Russia has the best weapons and army, but in international politics we behave like a rooster under the coop, there is a lot of ambition, but there is little sense, and everyone who is not too lazy is raped in all the cracks,
      - propose to start a war with nuclear Israel?
    3. The Government of the Russian Federation is forced to disappoint you - 94% Slavs, 6% Turks. Open and count (in person).
      Just don't make everyone you don't like Jewish
  59. -1
    22 January 2019 09: 09
    There is Khmeinim air defense and there are remnants of Syrian air defense, which will not be any effective, there is no need to mix them. However, the news about how, after spending a bunch of missiles, the Jews still blew up some warehouse with Iranian cargo, which was probably cheaper than these missiles, is a little funny.
    1. Please provide data 1) on the cost of destroyed air defense systems + fired missiles: 2, On the cost of destroyed objects: 3. On the cost of the operation.
      You are apparently aware. I also want to be in the know.
  60. snn
    0
    22 January 2019 10: 06
    The Pantsyr needs to be improved. When using the Pantsyr in a stationary position, an additional controlled trailer with a hundred missiles must be attached to it. Control on the trailer should switch after using 12 operational missiles.
  61. Quote: spektr9
    All this is certainly good, but this will not stop until finally the S-300s are brought down by carriers, they won’t be able to shoot them down until Moscow allows it ... Here, many accuse India of constant dancing, not noticing how the Russian Federation is now dancing between Israel and Syria with Iran, but you can’t sit on two chairs and you need to decide who we are

    As soon as the carriers start getting lost, the air defense systems will be immediately destroyed. Israel completely destroyed the air force and air defense of the Syrian Arab Republic 3 times (for example, operation MEDVEDKA-21).
  62. 0
    22 January 2019 10: 37
    If the current Russian government is little concerned about saving its face, then, as true market capitalists, they are at least concerned about preserving the money spent on the defense of Syria. Figuratively speaking, an Israeli aircraft missile costs a ruble, and a Syrian air defense missile (i.e., a Russian missile) plus a destroyed complex, plus the preparation of a crew (often killed or maimed) costs ten rubles. It's a stupid war.
  63. 0
    22 January 2019 10: 40
    Quote: snn
    The Pantsyr needs to be improved. When using the Pantsyr in a stationary position, an additional controlled trailer with a hundred missiles must be attached to it. Control on the trailer should switch after using 12 operational missiles.
    Reply

    Yes, you should work at the main rocket science research institute! It’s better to send your son or grandson to a rocket school - maybe they’ll tell you something relevant.
  64. 0
    22 January 2019 10: 44
    Quote: Anchonsha
    Therefore, Pantsiri and short-range air defense systems are still used.

    They are luring, otherwise how to explain...
  65. 0
    22 January 2019 10: 47
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
    The Government of the Russian Federation is forced to disappoint you - 94% Slavs, 6% Turks. Open and count (in person).

    Open what, their passports of other countries, green cards, residence permits or accounts in foreign banks?
  66. 0
    22 January 2019 11: 04
    Quote: A.K.
    But I don’t think it’s worth going there; we have enough problems of our own.
    Reply

    I agree, but Gazprom thinks differently, and this is decisive in today’s Russia.
  67. boo
    -1
    22 January 2019 11: 27
    Another pukinwaffe shits itself, But it’s not surprising when there are seven with a spoon, one with a bipod. Under such a system, when the main thing is to make money in a narrow circle of friends and well-fed lackeys, and work on a residual principle, everything is hopeless.
  68. -1
    22 January 2019 11: 58
    Quote: zloybond
    There must be an answer. There is no answer, they will continue to bomb.

    Of course they will. They are at war, and besides, Iranian formations that are not “great friends” of Israel are also fighting on the side of Syria. And for an answer you need several conditions:
    1. And most importantly. The civil war must be ended. Otherwise, everything will return to normal. And it will return. When a person or a clan is in power for half a century, it means only one thing. Dictatorship of some over others. And there will always be dissatisfied people. Which you can keep for some time by force of arms within the framework you need. But not always.
    2. Any air defense is worth something if it is a SYSTEM. System in everything. Starting from technology and ending with the training of specialists. You can give the most modern system, some S-800, but if the staff is cross-armed and at a clearly defined time distracted by the next prayer, or generally does not care about their immediate responsibilities, believing that since they have a super-duper system, That means the devil himself is not their brother.
    3. The air defense system should include (I'm sorry, but this is the basics) radio engineering troops, anti-aircraft missile forces, and air defense fighter aircraft. Only then can we say that a certain system is being created. And now, when they don’t have a foundation, no matter what you supply them, it’s all the same. And they can create a system in only one way - PURCHASE aviation, air defense systems, and radio television. And train your staff.

    And all this is possible only under one condition. When making peace with neighbors. However, Assad is in no hurry to make peace, although, as they say, there were proposals, incl. as with the Palestinians - “peace in exchange for territory.” But alas.

    Therefore, they will bomb and there will be no response....
  69. -1
    22 January 2019 12: 00
    Quote: snn
    The Pantsyr needs to be improved. When using the Pantsyr in a stationary position, an additional controlled trailer with a hundred missiles must be attached to it. Control on the trailer should switch after using 12 operational missiles.

    Why one trailer? Let's fantasize. A dozen trailers and thousands of rockets.... laughing
  70. 0
    22 January 2019 12: 23
    We must sit at our bases in Syria, strengthen them in every possible way to control the Mediterranean, and not get involved in the showdown between this Assad, the Jews and the Iranians, because Russia is clearly an extra party in them, as are the Americans. The life of any ruler is not endless, in any case, the situation will change with the departure of Assad, but our bases in Syria must always remain. In Afghanistan, excuse me, it’s all about..or in Germany too, so at least they didn’t repeat the mistakes in the Middle East.
  71. 0
    22 January 2019 12: 49
    “happened in connection with that” is another excuse from a “military expert” who is in fact a propagandist. Israel warned about the S-300 and Pantsirs - if you interfere with flying, we will destroy you, and has already proven more than once that you are not joking.
  72. 0
    22 January 2019 12: 50
    The shells were initially made mainly only to protect the S-400; effectiveness is achieved only in combination...
  73. 0
    22 January 2019 12: 59
    New S-300s only for the protection of Ross. and the Israeli military

    Dec 12 2018 - The military of Russia and Israel [again] agreed on cooperation between the Khmeimim air base and the Israeli Air Force command center. The parties discussed the operation of a direct communication channel to prevent dangerous incidents that threaten the life of Russian and Israeli troops.
    ...
    A spokesman for Russian President Dmitry Peskov on Monday emphasized that the delivery of air defense systems to the Syrians is aimed at ensuring the security of Russian troops in Syria, and not against third countries.

    Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov commented on the delivery of a battery of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria and said that Moscow needed to ensure the security of Russian forces in Syria. It is reported by RIA Novosti.

    Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reported on the delivery of the S-300 complex and other equipment to increase the level of security for Russian troops in Syria.
  74. 0
    22 January 2019 14: 05
    Why? Because they forgot the order of the Great
    Suvorova: “It’s hard to learn, but it’s easy to fight!” The crew was not ready to repel aggression. They didn’t wait, but they had to wait every second...
  75. 0
    22 January 2019 15: 25
    and whoever said that someone is defending Syria at all, interests are being written off there, such as protecting from someone and who, when the helmsmen of Russia have 70% second Israeli citizenship and fly to work on Mondays from Israel. When the Russian elite have spare citizenships, main capital in non-Russian banks, so who will they protect, which country, maybe the one in which they earn their living? But I think no one has Syrian citizenship, except for the departed prophets and Jesus who will return to put in place Israel and traitors with 2 citizenships and those who, under the guise of religion, fool the people by cheating and robbing!
  76. 0
    22 January 2019 15: 33
    The Jews are very cowardly people, when a neighbor behind the wall sneezes, they run to the pharmacy for medicine, and pour bleach over the entire entrance with sidewalks and the neighbor will begin to flee the house. What if it gets infected?
    Israel as a state is only 50-70 years old, newly formed and why does it have more rights than ancient states and on what basis is Israel bombing Syria?! Once again, the meanness, cowardice, aggressiveness of the Jews, who are at war with God himself, are proven, and they also call Russia = an aggressor, and Russia is an inch compared to Israel!
  77. 0
    22 January 2019 16: 32
    So which rocket? If it is a spike, then it has a range of no more than 25 km. This distance is comparable to the distances at which cannon artillery operates. That is, the range of artillery fire. Even if they spared money on a rocket, the installation could simply be covered with a salvo on a tip - like during the Second World War. There is no trick against scrap! And if you get to 12 km, you can even shoot from a tank! An adjustable projectile is also suitable (example - Krasnopol).
    The air defense installation was covered at artillery range with an anti-tank missile. They could have simply fired a salvo of cannon artillery. By ground forces. So what is the "sensation"?
  78. 0
    22 January 2019 18: 09
    No matter what anyone says, not a month or two has passed since Russia announced that it would build an air defense system there. For now, Israel is simply mocking. And, if the Israelis are not punished for their meanness, then trust in all S300s, etc. will be undermined. It’s annoying that Ukraine, Israel and all sorts of Baltic states spit on us, but we just wipe ourselves off and frown menacingly.
  79. 0
    22 January 2019 19: 24
    Quote: NEXUS
    I said that one of the variants of events is that the crew of the Pantsir air defense missile system shot off everything down to the “piece of hardware” and he simply had nothing to defend himself with. I consider this option more plausible than yet another stupidity of the Syrians.

    For information and about the shot

    Based on the video provided by the IDF press service, many experts immediately concluded that the second Pantsir was in a stowed position during the destruction. The only argument was the folded state of the 1RS1-1E detection radar.
    ...
    Firstly, few people paid attention to the fact that the 30-mm 57E6E cannons look up, and not downwards. This suggests that the Pantsir-S complex is in combat condition.
    and secondly, the Israeli Air Force used its own developed Delilah and Spike missiles to destroy Syrian complexes. The first is this anti-radar missile, designed to combat enemy radars. Therefore, disabling 1PC1-1E, as well as the “round” 1PC2 in the current conditions, is a completely reasonable decision for the Syrians.
    At the same time, barrel artillery can work on targets, receiving information from the optical-electronic module, tracking the target in different optical ranges.
    Conclusion: the Syrian Pantsir-S is in a combat position and most likely fired from artillery installations.
    http://in24.org/world/34901?utm_source=warfiles.ru

    And also

    On the night of January 21, the raid was repeated with even more powerful forces. This time it involved not only cruise missiles, but also SkyStriker loitering munitions produced by Elbit Systems - the so-called kamikaze drones. These drones were used to suppress Syrian air defenses and, judging by videos published by the Israel Defense Forces, hit one of the Pantsir-S complexes and the position of another air defense system.

    SkyStriker is a small, low-speed (up to 190 km/h) unmanned aerial vehicle with a pushing propeller and an electric motor. Its weight is 35 kg, and the warhead has a mass of 5 to 10 kg. SkyStriker can stay in the air for up to two hours. The operator in tele-guidance mode is able to direct it to the target and cancel the attack almost before contact with it. If during the flight it was not possible to detect a worthy target, the UAV will return back and descend to the ground using a parachute. The use of this ammunition in the daytime poses a certain problem, since it is vulnerable even to small arms. But at night, a raid by a “flock” of such “kamikazes” on an air defense position can pose a serious problem for the enemy.
    http://k-politika.ru/sirijskij-pancir-pal-zhertvoj-primitivnogo-izrailskogo-drona/?utm_source=warfiles.ru

  80. -1
    22 January 2019 19: 40
    I would like to quote the words

    https://moiarussia.ru/bismark-o-rossii-i-russkih-mysli-zheleznogo-kantslera/
    The first Chancellor of the German Empire, later nicknamed the “Iron Chancellor,” knew Russia and the Russian people very well.
    ...
    In one of his letters addressed to the Austrian envoy, Bismarck very precisely expresses his attitude towards the Russians, and warns that “it is better not to wake up the Russian bear.” Here is Bismarck's well-documented opinion:
    “Even the most successful outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of Russia, which rests on the millions of Russian believers in the Greek denomination. The latter, even if they are separated by international treaties, will reunite with each other as quickly as they find their way to each other by disconnected mercury droplets.
    This indestructible State of the Russian nation is strong in its climate, its spaces and its unpretentiousness, as well as through the awareness of the need to permanently protect its borders.
    ...
    • Preventive war against Russia - suicide due to fear of death.
    • Russia is dangerous by the meagerness of its needs.
    • Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But Russians can instill false values ​​and then they will defeat themselves.
    • Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main power of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians.
    • Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, don’t rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth playing with the Russians honestly, or not at all.
    • Never fight with Russians. They will respond to each of your military tricks with unpredictable stupidity.
    • Make alliances with anyone, unleash any war, but never touch the Russians.
    • Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.
    ...

    Russians harness for a long time, but drive fast.
  81. -1
    22 January 2019 20: 18
    Quote: Mr Credo
    I think the signing of a peace treaty will do nothing. The latest example is the Minsk agreements. Also, a kind of peace treaty.

    Well, the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel did not bring anything bad for Egypt. Moreover. The situation has stabilized and both sides are even working together against terrorist groups

    Quote: Herman 4223
    You can land a couple of Israeli planes, or put Syrian cars on them, you can give systems for a retaliatory strike, but for this you need to have iron eggs and not worried officials.

    Dear! Read the relevant documents on the website of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs. In particular, why and for what tasks our contingent was introduced. So that you don’t have to look for too much, I can tell you in a few words. The main task is to fight ISIS and assist the Syrian army in their fight against ISIS. All. Finish. There is no talk of any military operations with surrounding countries. So the wet dreams that ours will shoot down Israeli planes are just dreams. And to aim Syrian vehicles at them.... It would probably be possible to aim them, if there was something to aim. Do you often see Syrian aviation in videos from Syria? The last story was about a year and a half ago and featured the L-39 and SU-20. There is generally silence about fighters...

    Quote: 1536
    We must sit at our bases in Syria, strengthen them in every possible way to control the Mediterranean, and not get involved in the showdown between this Assad, the Jews and the Iranians, because Russia is clearly an extra party in them, as are the Americans. The life of any ruler is not endless, in any case, the situation will change with the departure of Assad, but our bases in Syria must always remain. In Afghanistan, excuse me, it’s all about..or in Germany too, so at least they didn’t repeat the mistakes in the Middle East.

    Eugene! We are mostly sitting at our bases anyway. But in order to strengthen them in every possible way to control SPM, it is necessary that they be in our possession at least for the next 50-75 years. Then we can talk about some serious control. What's in reality?
    On the outskirts of our air force base there is a local town and a highway on one side, gardens on the other, and hills on the third, 2-4 km away. Plus a huge number of dirt roads. In order to 100% secure the base, a security belt of several kilometers, and possibly ten kilometers, is required to exclude the possibility of mortar fire. This means that not only the airfield should be leased to us for 50-75 years, but also the surrounding area.

    The same is true with the logistics support point (MSS) in Tartus. The point is located on the outskirts of the city. Nearby is a Syrian civilian port. Syrian ships are also based in the waters of the point. The water area of ​​the point is located in such a way that no more or less large ship will enter there.

    As for the ruler. Arab rulers have always been dictators. Good for some, bad for others. One clan occupies leadership positions, power is most often transferred from father to son. the rest, but “not in the clan” - they are most often outside the feeding trough. But I want to. Therefore, conspiracies and coups are ripening, and this whole situation is a very good seed for all sorts of color revolutions. The worst thing is that dictators are usually touchy. The example of Assad the father is probably the most typical example.

    I don’t know if you are aware, but in the late 70s - early 80s the question of creating our large base in Syria, in the Latakia EMNIP region, arose in full force. Up to 20 warships were to be based at the base, including aircraft-carrying ships. It was planned to base up to 4 air regiments at the airfield, including bomber, reconnaissance-anti-submarine, and fighter. But in 1982, Assad the Father sent Syrian troops into Lebanon. Our leadership expressed its displeasure. The result was that a big, bold cross was put on our future base, and on top of that, for several years we were generally prohibited from using PMTO. So for our bases to remain there, if not forever, but for a very long time, they must be in a slightly different place (and not on the outskirts of towns), and we must have long-term rights to them. Otherwise, the coming to power of another leader could put an end to these bases and many billions will be thrown away
  82. 0
    23 January 2019 04: 18
    They, simply in the army, do not have enough specific Russian sergeants, and foreman fool
  83. 0
    23 January 2019 06: 33
    It's not just about a single control center.
    S-300, S-400 and aircraft are not used to repel attacks.
    The "Pantsir" guns are not really used - they need to be replaced with an additional supply of missiles. Interference like "Curtain" is needed.
  84. 0
    23 January 2019 08: 27
    I think sooner or later you will have to stop “ignoring” the problem of constant harassing blows, but unfortunately, judging by the reaction to each such prank, this will not happen before the “next Il”, only then I think maybe, or maybe not, they will turn to "face the problem", maybe they will quietly come to an agreement with Lebanon, take the example of Israel and purposefully think through a special operation with a missile ambush on its territory or something like that, in any case, until they themselves begin to think about how to cause damage, and not shoot back ammunition, from long-thought-out special operations to the smallest detail, will slowly knock out any modern equipment
  85. 0
    23 January 2019 11: 06
    There is so much chatter about the reasons for the loss of the Shells, all sorts of nonsense about politics and the abilities of the operators! But the question is purely technical! All the videos about the destruction were filmed on a TV channel, they were aimed at visually, slowly, they are aimed directly at the gas tanks, apparently the ammunition is weak! You just need to blind these systems, whether they are drones or something else. That’s the whole question - why don’t Pantsirs protect themselves from optical guidance systems like our tanks?! And why didn’t the guns work, but tried to shoot them down with missiles that flew a meter from the target and didn’t work? Apparently the target was very small, and Pantsir-S missiles are not capable of shooting down such a small thing.
  86. 0
    23 January 2019 14: 50
    Is there any confirmation of the destruction of the shells?
  87. 0
    23 January 2019 17: 09
    Come on, this Syria. Not interested. Tired of it. Let Kemdi speak out about the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands and the conclusion of a peace treaty. Satanovsky has already spoken. We are waiting for Kemdi. He's one of ours. Former ones.
  88. 0
    23 January 2019 17: 09
    Come on, this Syria. Not interested. Tired of it. Let Kemdi speak out about the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands and the conclusion of a peace treaty. Satanovsky has already spoken. We are waiting for Kemdi. He's one of ours. Former ones.
  89. 0
    23 January 2019 17: 44
    At a minimum, Syrian military crews for the S-300 have not yet returned to duty. Presumably only March/April, at best.
  90. 0
    27 January 2019 07: 25
    Quote: yehat
    it is necessary to establish reconnaissance that marks in real time the takeoffs of all Israeli aircraft

    one can almost see a man of characteristic appearance lying on the sofa at the end of the runway... writing something in a notebook.
  91. 0
    15 February 2019 03: 00
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    I sleep peacefully now.
    knowing that the Russian sons and daughters of Israel, artists, are on guard
    third temple. All actors and comedians, clowns, turn out to be warriors of Zion.
    thank you.

    No, but seriously, was my post a revelation for you?! If yes, then this did not start yesterday... Ask how many Jews were in the power and theater structures of the USSR!!! The leadership of the Gulag alone is worth something, but the current “Russian” liberals are guilty of the crimes of 1937, oddly enough, the majority of whom are “Russian sons and daughters of Israel” only Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin. Something like this...

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