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Putin gave the installation to the friendship of nations

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Just recently, it became known that President Vladimir Putin took the initiative to create the Council on Interethnic Relations. It is noteworthy that Putin himself will head this organization. The Council’s activities will be aimed at developing a strategy for the national policy of Russia, which, in turn, is intended to regulate the assistance of local authorities, government bodies and the general public in terms of interethnic relations. The proposal is fully consistent with the pre-election program of Vladimir Putin.

Today, every adequate person in Russia understands that the inter-ethnic problem in the country remains more than acute. The national question especially manifests itself in large Russian cities, as well as in subsidized regions of the country. In the first case, the reason is weak migration control and high corruption. The second case is rather an attempt to transfer all the negative aspects of social and economic life to “newcomers”.
And in one, and in another case, the situation sometimes goes too far. The national question sometimes leads to a truly bloody confrontation, with which law enforcement officers and local authorities are sometimes simply unable to cope.

Here are just a few specific examples of aggression that has arisen on interethnic grounds.

Year 2006. Karelia. Kondopoga. In the local cafe "Chaika" a mass brawl took place between local residents and representatives of the Chechen diaspora of the city. As a result of the incident, several people died. This история caused a wide public response, and disturbed the peace in quiet Karelia. After the Kondopoga pogrom, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Karelia, Major General Mikhailov, the head of the republican FSB, Major General Dorofeev and the prosecutor of Karelia Opanasenko, lost their posts.

Karelian interethnic conflict spilled over into open clashes on the territory of other Russian cities.

Year 2010. Moscow. In the capital, killed a football fan Yegor Sviridov. The investigation found out that the murderer turned out to be a native of Dagestan, Aslan Cherkesov, who subsequently received 20 years and six months in total under two articles “Hooliganism” and “Murder from hooliganism motives”. Those who along with Cherkesov participated in a skirmish with the fans were sentenced to real terms: Akai Akayev, Nariman Ismailov, Ramazan Utarbiyev, Hasan Ibragimov and Artur Arsibiev. They all received five years in a general regime colony. However, this story could not be so resonant if it were not for the activity of the fans of the Moscow “Spartak”, who literally forced to conduct a full investigation and punish the guilty. After the murder of Yegor Sviridov, Moscow and other cities of Russia were swept by a new war of hatred towards people from the Caucasus, which heated the situation in the country to the limit.

Year 2011. Voronezh region. More than two hundred residents of the small village of Kozlovka put forward an ultimatum to the local authorities, in which they literally demanded that the administration and local law enforcement officers expel people from the Caucasus from the village. The reason is that Caucasians, according to villagers, took part in a fight, as a result of which several young local guys got injuries of varying severity. The conflict, by the way, could have ended the world war, but representatives of nationalist movements intervened in it and it flared up with a new force. At the trial, it turned out that far from not only people from Armenia and Azerbaijan are guilty of stirring up the conflict, but also that the provocation took place, as they say, “on a drunken shop” by local residents.

This list goes on and on, but it is already clear to everyone that the interethnic issue very often becomes the cause of serious unrest in the country.

Certainly, such a thing as friendship of peoples has been erased from the consciousness of Russians for a long time. And this cannot be considered a positive trend. The difficulties here are far from the fact that a particular nation cannot get along with representatives of another nation. The essence of the conflict lies precisely in the complexities of migration policy. Recently, there has been a clear bias towards the fact that the large cities of Russia often become the scene of interethnic redistribution of property. Ethnic Tajiks come into conflict with ethnic Uzbeks, Russians with immigrants from Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, ethnic Armenians with ethnic Azerbaijanis. Sometimes, as a result of clarification of relations between groups, completely strangers suffer.

That is why the presidential initiative to create a special Council, which will deal with leveling ethnic conflicts, appeared in a timely manner. After all, no matter how we relate to other nationalities residing in our country, representatives of these “other” nationalities are the same citizens of Russia.

It is interethnic conflicts that can shake the situation in the country in a way that no economic cataclysm can shake. The situation remains acute, also because certain forces outside are eager to use the national map in Russia to meet their own interests. As is known from Soviet history, it was a series of inter-ethnic conflicts that served as a powerful tectonic blow to the foundation of the whole country. If the Russian authorities today do not want to allow the repetition of those terrible events, then it’s time to take measures to create conditions for mutually beneficial partnership between representatives of different peoples of the Russian Federation here and now.

The main thing is that the Council should not turn into another bureaucratic apparatus, which would solve purely superficial problems without delving into their essence.
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 07: 35
    +16
    There is a problem, some people who behave as a guest do not give a damn about everything are at fault. The result is hate. Multiculture is at an impasse in Europe, more drastic measures are needed. Otherwise, rudeness and arrogance do their job.
    1. Armata
      Armata 13 June 2012 07: 45
      +22
      Hi Sasha. You need to live where you were born, and not go to someone else’s monastery with your own way. I understand those people who are intolerant of visitors from fraternal republics. Of these, only a small fraction honestly work, and the rest of the traders here consider themselves the owners, are rude. In some places, they are already afraid of letting out children alone. It is necessary to introduce strict regulations for these emigrants and to clear their territory of their presence.
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 13 June 2012 08: 12
        +4
        Quote: Steam Train

        Hi Sasha. You need to live where you were born, and not go to someone else’s monastery with your own way. I understand those people who are intolerant of visitors from fraternal republics. Of these, only a small fraction honestly work, and the rest of the traders here consider themselves the owners, are rude. In some places, they are already afraid of letting out children alone. It is necessary to introduce strict regulations for these emigrants and to clear their territory of their presence.

        This must be done carefully, otherwise shouting about oppression and ethnic hatred cannot be avoided. Well, the West will only be glad of this!
        1. Armata
          Armata 13 June 2012 08: 23
          +10
          You need to collect them in one pile. Check documents and deport those who are overdue, falsified (there are also many), those who do not officially work although the docks are in order, those who were detained by the police at any time and for any reason. There is no other way, unfortunately.
          1. A Smarter
            A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 17
            0
            I live in Dzerzhinsk, Nizhny Novgorod region. In 1993, Azerbaijanis flooded the city market, crushing literally everything under themselves. The city police did not blunder. All Azeris (about 200 individuals) were collected in a heap, they checked their passports and registration and wiped out of the city with the order not to return ....
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 12
        +17
        Hi Zhenya, we also have such a problem. And they brazenly lead when they gather in groups. One at a time, quiet, calm. When Russians are beaten, this is hooliganism, and when ours are beaten, racial hatred is shouted at all TVs. We plant ourselves, reap ourselves!
        1. Armata
          Armata 13 June 2012 08: 38
          +8
          Sasha, we have a whole micro district. The old sort is simply packed with them. There the Russians almost all left behind the Tagansky Ryad clothing bazaar. And they behave rudely even during the day and regardless of whether he is alone or in a crowd, even their own Uzbeks, Tajiks of route workers are robbed. And when the National Bolsheviks arrived there from all over the region after this month, there was silence, but then they became completely brutal. So this is more than a problem and measures are no longer needed political, but purely forceful.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 June 2012 08: 42
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And they brazenly lead when they gather in groups.


          Rather in packs
        3. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 June 2012 15: 32
          +6
          Alexander You are wrong !!
          Very often, Natsik killed and crippled people of another nationality were also accused only of hooliganism!
          This is a power problem !!
          It seems to me, I'm almost sure that all this was done and done on purpose!
          Recently, the athlete who killed the man with one blow justified and no one cares!
          And they will justify Mirzaev, they will start shouting that he killed the Russian, he was justified!
          The problem is corruption and there is no authority of authority!
      3. snik57
        snik57 13 June 2012 11: 04
        +5
        That's right!
      4. Fost325
        Fost325 13 June 2012 12: 21
        +6
        I completely agree. Moreover, after reading some comments like "rather in the pack" - annoying.
        I know a lot of Russians living in Chechnya, Dagestan, Kabardinobalkaria, (Georgia), no one is going to make diasporas, communities (sects) "THERE", everyone lives according to the laws and rules of the national territory where they are, and respect their laws and traditions ...
        Why same "those" "individuals! (having arrived in Russia) they are trying to impose on the Russians, in our territory, their own conditions, - to live according to their rules and laws (I did not find the necessary smiley), preaching not what morality, and even more so religion."
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 14: 48
          +4
          Quote: Fost325
          Why are “those” “personalities!” (Having arrived in Russia) trying to impose on the Russians, in our territory, their own conditions - to live according to their rules and laws (I did not find the necessary smiley), preaching not what morality, and even more so religion.


          I agree ... But you need to start with yourself ... To begin with, you can start to behave correctly in foreign resorts ... And then some countries (such as India) are considering a ban on the entry of Russian tourists ... Protect the image of the people ...
          So probably it would be honest ...
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 13 June 2012 17: 17
          +10
          It’s not about the nations that come, but the one that accepts. I’ll explain there are norms of behavior that they won’t allow themselves at home, but once in a Russian environment where a lot of things are allowed, this behavior can be hidden from elders, which is difficult at home because there, besides the elders, there is public oversight. Well and of course, to some extent, there is the human factor itself.
          I personally do not live according to any Russian behavior, but I don’t impose my image. I don’t smoke, I don’t curse, I help the elderly or I just don’t know my neighbor, but these are all universal human norms of behavior. Religion and the nation only make adjustments to the norms of behavior .
      5. FiremanRS
        FiremanRS 13 June 2012 13: 21
        +6
        I don't quite agree. Russia is primarily a multinational country. But the diasporas also contradict the spirit of the law. There shouldn't be any! You came to a strange city - accept the rules of this city and live as everyone lives in this city. Work hard, you trade better than you build - trade! Build better - build! But you do not need to transfer your culture and customs to someone else's territory, there are enough of them and our own. But there is enough room in any nationality. And among the Slavs there are people whom I would put against the wall on a par with some "citizens". So this question is not so simple, it is not so simple ..... The creation of this committee is long overdue and it is good that it appeared. May God grant that at least somehow this issue will be resolved.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 13 June 2012 17: 38
          +13
          Well, what kind of cultures and customs do Caucasians transfer to Russia? Most drink smokers, go to clubs like Russians, say that Caucasian women are all in their veils, but men are not in popes either. Unlike European immigrants, where they really bring their traditions to society There is harassment of girls, and sometimes a nervous reaction to various situations. But this does not mean the introduction of their traditions.
          Recently I was at the wedding of a close relative and there were his friends Russian young couple husband and wife. So considering that the young people were mostly not drinking, only this couple but seeing that no one else was drinking reduced the temp. And next to me was also a relative I don’t know well, but then I understood from the communication that people from the series are supposedly Azerbaijani but very Russified, they don’t know Azerbaijani and traditions. So the Russian guy, when he took a bottle of wine, accidentally spilled it on us (more on me) He began to apologize well I certainly don’t worry bro, and this relative nearby suddenly started who the fuck is you ooh-l. I immediately pulled him and threw him into the street where the ram explained to him I understand you are far from traditions, but THIS IS A GUEST !!! And the guest sacred in the Caucasus, he did not do anything to hear such words from you !! He began to justify his behavior, but quickly shut up when others began to condemn him.
          The bottom line is if the Caucasians really implemented their traditions there wouldn’t be all of this. These are uncouth. When VKontakte puts pictures with a cigar and whiskey in their hands, and next to another album called Islam and it with a thumb up.
          Sincerely.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 June 2012 19: 24
            +5
            Ali!
            You are absolutely right!
            He himself has witnessed this more than once!
        2. Sergeant Air Force
          Sergeant Air Force 13 June 2012 19: 13
          +4
          ****** You arrived in a foreign city - accept the rules of this city and live as everyone lives in this city ****** Here is the discrepancy. No RULES of another city. There is no ALIEN city. All cities are their own. And the rules are the same everywhere. By and large, moral values ​​are the same as in Russia, in the Caucasus, and in neighboring countries .. Do not steal, be polite, etc. Even you, the person who reasoned correctly in general, remain in the head screening. A child must be taught in childhood that we are all the same. And there to teach, and here.
      6. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 13 June 2012 21: 39
        +3
        There are no bad nationalities, there are only bad people and bad upbringing. Unfortunately, all this is often burdened by drugs, alcohol and lack of culture, as well as "itching" in the lower regions of the body due to the "tender" age and the above! And very often the presence of too much free time and a lack of imagination for what it can be used with greater benefit! ..
      7. Flooding
        Flooding 14 June 2012 12: 41
        +1
        Do not put everyone in a heap. Which, incidentally, was done in the article. There are migrants, residents of the Russian Federation. And there are visitors from the countries of the former USSR.
        Differentiated tools are needed.
        Some should be aimed at regulating any interethnic conflicts between Russian citizens, which, of course, is associated with a competent policy of regional development.
        And the second ones are aimed at regulating immigration policy, introducing protection measures that protect primarily the interests of Russians, and not someone’s tight wallets, strictly selecting and attracting qualified foreign personnel in the first place, and ensuring their assimilation in Russian society.
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 13 June 2012 08: 17
      +8
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      the fault of some who are at a party behaves spit on everything

      And here (Russia) they continue to think that any problem can be solved by creating a committee. All cases "on national grounds" and actions against them occur after the local law enforcement forces "wash their hands". This is due to bribery, fear or other reasons, but this happens and then there is a "riot" (so far weak) with a goal, to restore justice
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 13 June 2012 08: 26
        +7
        Zhenya, Maxim, Sasha, Alexey, greetings! Any representative of national minority behaves exactly as much as he is brought up at home. That's the whole problem. What he hears in the family, he carries to the streets of cities. That's where you need to start, and we create the next committees, and ostentatious ..
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 13 June 2012 08: 42
          +4
          Tersky,
          Quote: Tersky

          Zhenya, Maxim, Sasha, Alexey, greetings! Any representative of national minority behaves exactly as much as he is brought up at home.

          I want to add a little: how much their host country allows them to behave. If you disregard this problem, the result is appropriate!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 50
            +6
            Eugene, when they begin to set their brains, usually the cops are on their side. And then wonder why the police do not like.
            1. Shuhrat turani
              Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 14: 54
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Eugene, when they begin to set their brains, usually the cops are on their side. And then wonder why the police do not like


              Police officers generally adhere to extreme right (nationalist) beliefs, and as a result do not protect the rights of the non-Slavic minority ... Verified by experience
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 13 June 2012 23: 26
              0
              Alexander, I gave you an example of various attitudes to crime !!
              http://svpressa.ru/society/article/54187/?go=popul
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 13 June 2012 09: 00
            +3
            Quote: tronin.maxim
            how much their host country allows them to behave.

            And let them have a lot of illicit indigenous.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 13 June 2012 17: 06
              +2
              Victor!
              You are fundamentally wrong !!
              Perhaps someone is allowed something, but not because he is of a different nationality, but because he gives them money !!
              And you know this better than me !!
          3. Shuhrat turani
            Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 14: 52
            0
            Quote: tronin.maxim
            I want to add a little: how much their host country allows them to behave. If you disregard this problem, the result is appropriate!

            +1
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 42
          +4
          Victor is not only a matter of culture, they are impudent as much as we allow them. They are stacked and have an advantage here. But when the Russians get bored, for example, the murder of Sviridov, everyone runs up the gap. Not a single one is visible.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 13 June 2012 20: 56
            +5
            Well, how to say scatter at all that everyone reached out to beat the muzzle or you forgot how riot police caught Caucasians in the subway)
        3. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 June 2012 08: 43
          +8
          Quote: Tersky
          Any representative of national minority behaves exactly as much as he is brought up at home


          And as far as Russian officials allow him
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 13 June 2012 08: 46
            +3
            Quote: Vadivak
            And as far as Russian officials allow him

            I completely agree. At some point, euphoria that everything is bought and everything starts to "put pressure on the brain" and the adequacy of perception disappears.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 54
              +4
              Hi Alexey, there’s a good medicine, a non-sick ball. Sold in all auto parts stores. Recommend.
              1. Aleksey67
                Aleksey67 13 June 2012 08: 58
                +2
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                there’s a good cure for a non-sick ball. Sold in all auto parts stores. Recommend.

                Sash, at least in Moscow, the cops, when inspecting the car, now pay attention to the bits and you can "shove" problems laughing I have a Czech telescopic baton with a ball at the end, size when folded good Upon impact, the skin bursts (because of which at one time they were removed from the police) and pain shock. wink In general, during "showdowns" with the nationalities, the main thing is not to get under the knife, and if you see that one of them got it, then "squeeze" the goat to numerous fractures so that he remembers for a long time winked
                1. Armata
                  Armata 13 June 2012 09: 13
                  +4
                  Alexey. They are afraid even when they say to their crowd "You will kill me of course, but I will take a couple with me" acts flawlessly. And also an injury works flawlessly if it is worn on a platoon, I checked it myself, a shot in the legs and they run the whole crowd without a bazaar, and they always throw the one who flew over the frogs. They are all suckers.
                  1. Aleksey67
                    Aleksey67 13 June 2012 09: 17
                    0
                    Quote: Steam Train
                    They are afraid even when they say to their crowd "You will kill me of course, but I will take a couple with me" acts flawlessly. And also an injury works flawlessly if it is worn on a platoon, I checked it myself, a shot in the legs and they run the whole crowd without a bazaar, and they always throw the one who flew over the frogs. They are all suckers.

                    Zhenya, yes, it’s all based on the laws of the pack, while a strong (or seem so) leader, you showed weakness and yours is bitten, at the head of everything is your own salvation, and therefore the slightest danger and everyone runs away. At the same time, if they squeeze somewhere one can be killed, the blood will intoxicate
                  2. Guran96
                    Guran96 13 June 2012 10: 38
                    +3
                    Almost every third of them has this same "injury"; in most cases they bought permits for it in their republics of the Russian Federation through relatives, friends, acquaintances, etc. The same "telescopes", brass knuckles are freely sold for their own the same "Taganka" at Sorting. I generally keep quiet about knives. They are brave when they walk in a crowd, one by one they are still "heroes".
                    1. Armata
                      Armata 13 June 2012 11: 17
                      +1
                      Ivan Knives, brass knuckles, of course, almost everyone has it. And the injuries are mainly the owners of containers on Taganka, and they don’t go robbing people, they won’t even get out of the car again, for this they have sixes. The indifference of the Police in the Railway District is much more likely to kill me, because they probably know all this and don't do a damn thing, before they were rioted by riot police, but now it's completely messy ..
                      1. Guran96
                        Guran96 13 June 2012 12: 29
                        +1
                        My friends move to another area from Sort, as they are waiting for replenishment in the family, and it becomes really not safe to live there, especially at night. The indifference of the police, and in particular of the same district police officers (the bulk of the visitors who work there and rent apartments) is clear to me, they simply feed on them, why should they figure it out. That's when something really serious happens, then there will be both the FMS and the OMON.
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 13 June 2012 08: 55
              +5
              Quote: Aleksey67
              perception adequacy disappears.


              At one time it was treated with occupational therapy at construction sites of the national economy
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 13 June 2012 08: 56
            +5
            Quote: Vadivak
            And as far as Russian officials allow him

            Greetings Vadim! And this is certainly one of the main reasons. The superloyalty of our bureaucrats is sometimes striking in its absurdity.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 15
              +2
              Healthy Victor. No way to get drunk
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 13 June 2012 09: 20
                +3
                Quote: Vadivak
                No way to get drunk

                If they continue to eat as they ate, they will be cut by their proteges.
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 24
                  +5
                  Quote: Tersky
                  they are their protégé and they will cut.


                  Every Judah has one end. All Judah must remember this
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 09: 34
                    +2
                    Hi Vadim, they remember. There is no limit to greed, they know sooner or later they will come for them. Money will not help them.
                    1. Vadivak
                      Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Money will not help them.

                      Great, Sasha.
                      They forget that you can’t take it with you, and near their graves they will gather to spit
          3. teplal
            teplal 13 June 2012 11: 22
            +2
            That's for sure! They bought bureaucrats at the local level and feel quite comfortable! Indigenous people are not used to giving bribes, so the eastern bazaar is chewing ...
            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 13 June 2012 21: 37
              -1
              Quote: teplal
              Bought locally bureaucrats


              bureaucrats probably also Caucasians? wink
        4. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 14: 51
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          Any representative of national minority behaves exactly as much as he is brought up at home. That's the whole problem. What he hears in the family, he carries to the streets of cities. That's where you need to start, and we create the next committees, and ostentatious ..


          That's right ... The same applies to the titular majority ... It is necessary to engage in education, and not empty chatter ...
    3. vadimus
      vadimus 13 June 2012 09: 03
      +1
      I’m also for friendship, but animals are animals ...
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 13 June 2012 09: 33
        +1
        Quote: vadimus
        I’m also for friendship,

        Only now they are against her. "Friends" while we feed ...
        1. Armata
          Armata 13 June 2012 09: 43
          +7
          Victor. Now they are friends against us and against each other. They arrange showdowns between their clans, but they are no longer afraid of us because we cannot unite, but only say that we came in h --- and. So the problem is, first and foremost, in the Russians themselves, until we stop figs.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 13 June 2012 10: 02
            +2
            Quote: Steam Train
            So the problem is primarily in the Russians themselves,

            Eugene, and they give us this problem ourselves to solve, the same bureaucrats? That's it and it, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge, where not to look - everywhere rubbish.
            1. Armata
              Armata 13 June 2012 10: 39
              +1
              Yes you are right. Officials are trying to erase the problem, and there are also enough Judas among the police, although when they were "reorganized" into the police, how much they talked about what would be better, we will raise corruption, not everyone will pass the exam.
          2. pribolt
            pribolt 13 June 2012 10: 41
            +3
            Locomotive. And they are no longer afraid of us because we cannot unite. So the problem is primarily in the Russians themselves. This problem has always been and will be, you can minus me, but it's true. How many times have I been in different countries for work, where do you meet a fellow countryman, I ask "And there are Russians here" the answer is "Yes, complete" I ask "And you communicate, where are you going "The answer is" Come on, they got them already "and then the enumeration of why does not want to communicate with fellow countrymen begins. The problem is in ourselves, whether you like it or not, but such is the harsh truth.
            1. Armata
              Armata 13 June 2012 11: 20
              +4
              Quote: pribolt
              And they are no longer afraid of us because we cannot unite. So the problem is primarily in the Russians themselves.

              Dmitry has such a thing. Even just to look outside. The crowd scores one, and healthy men Russian figs stand up for a fellow countryman, most simply pass by.
              1. broker
                broker 13 June 2012 12: 26
                -1
                As for me, the Russians have treated us well so here we are, and even those without the Tsar at the head!
                1. re321
                  re321 13 June 2012 12: 43
                  +1
                  Damn, well, here's another "advice" and another demagoguery for people ...
                  Tell me specifically: what to do with completely unbridled (for some reason during the reign of Tsar Putin) Caucasian criminal groups ?!
                  Crowds of armed Caucasian "students" drive around Moscow in expensive cars (where did the money come from?) And stupidly shoot and slaughter local Russians!
                  What is ALREADY DONE in this matter?
                  1. broker
                    broker 13 June 2012 12: 48
                    +1
                    Read the history of the Caucasus this whole life has been like that, you should not think that they are so unbelted now, even in tsarist times our people calmed them there, it’s just that migration processes have developed very strongly, not only in Russia but around the world. And some just have to be constantly in check!
                    1. Vitaly PV
                      Vitaly PV 13 June 2012 16: 47
                      0
                      that no, judging by the classical literature, the Caucasus was not as loose as it is today. Leo Tolstoy has an amazing story "Hadji Murad", it is worth reading
                  2. 755962
                    755962 13 June 2012 13: 20
                    +3
                    But nothing! But in the face of serious danger, our strength is only in collegiality, in unity, in unity, in harmony with each other.
                  3. Shuhrat turani
                    Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 15: 06
                    0
                    Quote: re321
                    Damn, well, here's another "advice" and another demagoguery for people ... Tell me specifically: what to do with completely unbridled (for some reason during the reign of Tsar Putin) Caucasian criminal gangs ?! Crowds of armed Caucasian "students" travel around Moscow in expensive auto (where did you get the money, did you earn it in the mine?) and they stupidly shoot and slaughter local Russians! What has ALREADY BEEN DONE in this matter?


                    Russian patriots should unite. And it makes sense to cooperate with separatist organizations of the national suburbs of the country ... After all, the goals are to separate, to separate peoples in their corners ...
                  4. Oleg0705
                    Oleg0705 13 June 2012 19: 53
                    -2
                    Quote: re321
                    what to do with completely unbelted


                    you and you like provocateurs, then the enemies of Russia

          3. Yuriy66
            Yuriy66 13 June 2012 21: 20
            0
            Try to move. 282 article provided. am
            1. Oleg0705
              Oleg0705 13 June 2012 21: 45
              -1
              Quote: Yuri66
              282 article


              Section 282. Arousal of National, Racial or Religious Enmity
              1. Actions aimed at inciting national, racial or religious hatred, humiliation of national dignity, as well as propaganda of exclusivity, superiority or inferiority of citizens on the basis of their attitude to religion, national or racial affiliation, if these acts were committed publicly or using the media , -
              shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of five hundred to eight hundred minimum wages or in the amount of the convict's wages or other income for a period of five to eight months, or by restriction of liberty for a term of up to three years, or imprisonment for a term of from two to four years.
              2. The same acts committed:
              a) with the use of violence or with the threat of oppression;
              b) a person using his / her official position;
              c) by an organized group, -
              the applicable sentence is deprivation of liberty for a term of from three to five years.



              1. In accordance with Article 13 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the incitement to social, racial, national and religious hatred is prohibited in Russia. The commented article criminalizes the most dangerous forms of violation of this constitutional ban.
              2. The objective side of the crime is characterized by the following actions aimed at:
              a) the excitement of the national. racial or religious hatred:
              b) humiliation of national dignity;
              c) propaganda of exclusivity, superiority or inferiority of citizens on the basis of their attitude to religion, national or racial affiliation. At the same time, criminal liability only arises if the specified actions are performed in a certain way - publicly or using the media.
              3. The incitement of national, racial or religious hatred is understood as an attempt to create conflicts between citizens of different nationalities, races or denominations (religious affiliation).
              4. Degrading national dignity - an expression of discriminatory attitude towards a certain nation in indecent form.
              5. Advocacy of exclusivity, superiority of citizens on the basis of their attitude to religion, national or racial affiliation - dissemination of assessments of citizens (personality, their abilities, behavior) depending on their attitude to religion (believer or atheist), as well as religious, national or racial accessories.
              6. Advocacy of citizens' inferiority - the dissemination of discriminatory assessments of citizens depending on their attitude to religion, as well as religious, national or racial affiliation.
              7. For the concept of publicity, see the commentary to Article 280.
              8. For the concept of the use of the media, see the commentary to Article 129.
              9. Violence as a way of committing the qualified corpus delicti of this crime (part 2 of the commented article) means intentional infliction of moderate severity of harm to health without aggravating circumstances (part 1 of article 112), intentional infliction of slight harm to health or beatings (articles 115 and 116 ) or forcible imprisonment (Art. 127). The use of more dangerous forms of violence in this case requires additional qualifications (for example, according to Article 111).
              10. The threat of violence as a way of committing a qualified corpus delicti is the threat of physical violence (see paragraph 9 of the commentary to this article).
              11. For the concept of using one’s official position, see the comments on Articles 136 and 201. If, when using a lipom, one’s official position violates the equal rights of citizens depending on their race, nationality or their attitude to religion, they should be qualified according to the totality of clause “ b ”part 2 of article 282 and part 2 of article 136.
              12. For the concept of an organized group, see commentary to Article 35.
              13. Criminal liability for the commission of this crime comes from 16 years.
              14. The subjective side of the crime is characterized by direct intent. The person is aware that he is committing the actions indicated in the disposition of the commented article, and wishes to do so. A sign of the subjective side is also the goal - to incite ethnic, racial or religious hostility or to demean national dignity or to promote the opinion of the exclusivity, superiority or inferiority of citizens on the basis of their attitude to religion, national or racial affiliation.
    4. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 14: 42
      -1
      I completely agree ... The Commonwealth of Nations in Russia, as in Europe, has reached an impasse. And you can’t put up with this at all ... Since the further coexistence of multilingual multicultural peoples would not be possible it would be logical to separate these nations ... All migrants should be expelled, the Caucasus and other Muslim, non-Slavic territories (within the framework of modern national republics) should be isolated from the main territory of the resettlement of the Russian-speaking, Orthodox population ... The Federation should be dissolved ... ENOUGH TO FEED THE CAUCASUS ...

      Given the mood of the titular majority of Russia, these measures will be a titanic step towards the civil world and the general prosperity of the citizens of Great Russia ...

      GLORY OF RUSSIA !!!
    5. A Smarter
      A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 13
      0
      A civilized and democratic France passed a law on immigrants from Arab and African countries, thereby sharply limiting the influx of migrants. The Benelux is choking on the newcomer Arabs, the United States has restricted the entry of everyone and everything into its territory. And only Russia, with the stupid stubbornness of the authorities, continues to follow the lead of the Tajiks, Uzbeks, Azerbaijanis and its "immigrants" from the Caucasus. They work, but do not pay taxes, because they work illegally, they bring drugs to us, which cost them a penny. They don't want to abide by our laws and customs. I can hardly imagine a situation in which I, in Dagestan or Chechnya, harass their girl or woman, without fear of either the police or the fact that her relatives will call me to account. But I can perfectly imagine such a situation somewhere in Moscow ...
      We need tough laws in this regard, otherwise if I kick him in the face, it’s on the basis of interethnic hatred, and he killed a Spartak fan — so it’s out of hooliganism.
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 14 June 2012 16: 56
        +1
        Quote: Wunder
        We need tough laws in this regard, otherwise if I kick him in the face, it’s on the basis of interethnic hatred, and he killed a Spartak fan — so it’s out of hooliganism.


        If Russian nationalists are being judged under the "hooligan" article, and the courts are trying to justify the Natsiks ... No need for demogogy !!!!
  2. vostok-47
    vostok-47 13 June 2012 07: 39
    +3
    You have such graters happening in the west, and here in China, peaceful Chinese in Vladivostok .....
    1. Odinplys
      Odinplys 13 June 2012 08: 13
      +1
      Quote: vostok-47
      You have such graters happening in the west, and here in China, peaceful Chinese in Vladivostok .....


      While peaceful ... The Chinese do everything "peacefully" ...
    2. erix-xnumx
      erix-xnumx 13 June 2012 08: 42
      +1
      In Vlad now there are not many Chinese, but Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Tajiks, and other "allies". And, unlike the Chinese, these apricots head to the city with their always-bellied wives and dirty cubs. This already looks exactly like an occupation. Read local news about maternity hospitals filled with Asian women. Yes, and there is no one to rub against, as all the crime fell under the Chechens. AND
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 14 June 2012 01: 08
        +2
        Quote: erix-06
        Read local news about the fact that the hospital is full


        So what???? Well, it improves demography ... What is required, otherwise there will be no one to sweep the streets in Moscow ...
  3. oper66
    oper66 13 June 2012 07: 40
    +13
    The desire to strengthen the country is understandable - but this cannot be done to the detriment of the Russians - if the main thrust in the search and suppression of Russian chauvinism remains the same, then this is the road to nowhere - it is necessary to change the country's structure - to destroy the federation precisely as a prerequisite for national discord - for now small peoples have their own national apartments and capitals - and the main people of the country - Russians will not be deprived of this world - because when they come to the center of the country they behave as guests and guests are bad and at home they can declare their exclusivity and hatred of Russia and the small-town official brethren in the pursuit of money and impunity encourages separatist sentiments - and with the other hand robs their fellow countrymen under any pretext - here is an example in the KBR - relatives of the head of the republic
    1. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 15: 13
      +2
      Quote: oper66
      The desire to strengthen the country is understandable - but this cannot be done to the detriment of the Russians - if the main thrust remains in the search and suppression of Russian chauvinism, then this is a way to nowhere - it is necessary to change the country's structure - to destroy the federation precisely as a prerequisite for ethnic hatred


      golden words ... I agree completely ... The Federation is not viable. But the way out is not in unitary organization of the country, but in the complete separation of the national republics ... We need to separate them, fence them off with walls, let them live as they want ... Russian house, for Russians ...
      1. sergey261180
        sergey261180 13 June 2012 15: 23
        -1
        Let only apartments (territory) be released.
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 16: 08
          +1
          Quote: sergey261180
          Let only apartments (territory) be released.


          with their original apartments ... you cannot cancel the inheritance rights ...
          1. sergey261180
            sergey261180 13 June 2012 20: 00
            +1
            Well then, like the Indians.
            1. Shuhrat turani
              Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 20: 45
              +2
              Quote: sergey261180
              Well then, like the Indians.


              Then there is no need for tears ... In the Caucasus, genocide will not "roll" for the third time ... sorry, time wasted ... now a small attempt at genocide will lead to the dismantling of the country ...
              1. sergey261180
                sergey261180 13 June 2012 21: 06
                +1
                The current elite will lead to the dismantling of the country.
                1. Shuhrat turani
                  Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 21: 18
                  0
                  Quote: sergey261180
                  The current elite will lead to the dismantling of the country



                  alternative elite too ...
  4. Hleb
    Hleb 13 June 2012 07: 53
    0
    Hello everyone, I apologize for the flood BUT THE QUESTION IS ON
    Dear anyone can really describe the vacation in Abkhazia, in particular in Gagra. I need to decide on the place today (tomorrow, but I wanted it there) but after reading the reviews on the internet, I’m a little discouraged ... not for myself, I'm worried about my wife and children.
    Unsubscribe please if anyone has been
    1. oper66
      oper66 13 June 2012 07: 59
      +5
      Gleb, I don’t advise spending holidays there - a little cheaper than our coast - but the attitude of the Abkhazians is a lot of crime and the service is not at the level
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 13 June 2012 08: 07
        0
        Thank you! I am inclined to believe you and the people here. There are different opinions on the Internet, but here I often hear the attitude of the Abkhazians, sanitation and infrastructure, this caught me ... and I’m thinking how not to upset my people ...
        1. Guran96
          Guran96 13 June 2012 10: 26
          +1
          That year were with his wife and four-year-old child in Abkhazia, lived in Gagra. They were practically everywhere. I liked the rest in general, the nature is magnificent and the sea is cleaner. About the service and infrastructure, but not really, but what would you like if, after the war, practically nothing was restored there. About the attitude of the Abkhazians, they are good towards Russians. Insolently and impudently, the local youth can carry themselves mainly. There is no more crime than in our resorts.
          1. A Smarter
            A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 36
            0
            They know the devil’s war when it ended, but if I don’t come, they all ache — they need to restore, there is no money .... It would have been necessary to have been restored long ago.
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 13 June 2012 15: 27
          +2
          Gleb!
          If you have close friends there then it’s worth a trip!
          And so Ivan wrote correctly!
        3. oper66
          oper66 13 June 2012 18: 49
          +2
          I’m not upset right now, so I don’t get upset, I live close by, often in Sochi, the host adler, etc.
    2. A Smarter
      A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 35
      0
      The acquaintance was in Sukhumi last year, says the Abkhazians after out of recognition are insolent, vacation prices have risen. From 2005 to 2010, I went to Abkhazia to rest regularly, but at current prices Turkey is cheaper (and there is no service there, but it doesn’t exist in Abkhazia at all). I do not advise.
  5. Trofimov174
    Trofimov174 13 June 2012 08: 14
    +2
    It's simple: if you want to go to Russia for temporary or permanent residence, be a beaver to learn history, language and familiarize yourself with the local mentality. If your worldviews and traditions are at odds with the views of future neighbors, then it’s worth finding a simpler country for yourself. Why for so many years a single apparatus was not created to control interethnic relations and the influx of immigrants remains a mystery to me. Even in the USA, in a country without a titular nation, there is strict control over the influx of people from other countries.
    1. Committee
      Committee 13 June 2012 08: 24
      0
      This is not a mystery, but systematic actions! Besides, which means "you want to go to Russia." Maybe I want to live on the Champs Elysees forever! I'm even ready to improve my French! But it seems to me that the French authorities will not give me money for the arrangement, as our people from the CIS do ...
    2. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 15: 14
      +2
      Quote: Trofimov174
      Everything is simple: if you want to go to Russia for temporary or permanent residence, be a beaver first to learn history, language and familiarize yourself with the local mentality.


      Then all desire will disappear ...
  6. Odinplys
    Odinplys 13 June 2012 08: 18
    -1
    The fact that Putin led ... speaks for itself ... there is a problem ... we can say a problem ...
    You can’t come to the monastery with your charter ... Where you were born ... it came in handy ... folk wisdom is always right ...
    He arrived and stayed ... bread, salt, and go home ... And behave modestly at a party ...
    1. A Smarter
      A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 38
      0
      Yeah, do not linger for a long time ...
  7. aksakal
    aksakal 13 June 2012 08: 19
    +6
    Finally we tackled this problem. Earlier I wrote in connection with the problems in Libya that Putin is doing something. "Where's the landing?" This issue got under way, the leaders of the marshes were searched, a huge amount of money was found at the Sobchaks, on which all government agencies now have questions for her, including the tax one. A special body has finally appeared on the issue in this article. And on Libya, the issue has not been resolved - (((((. Moreover, a Russian diplomat was also arrested there yesterday !!!!! The so-called "Zintanovskaya" group is atrocities there.
    On the issue of nationalism - here a whole range of problems need to be addressed, and just as comprehensively. And here already posted one-sided glances:
    Quote: Steam Train
    Hello Sasha. You need to live where you were born, and not go to someone else’s monastery with your own way. I understand those people who are intolerant of visitors from fraternal republics. Of these, only a small fraction honestly work, and the rest of the traders here consider themselves the owners, are rude. In some places, they are already afraid of letting out children alone. It is necessary to introduce strict regulations for these emigrants and to clear their territory of their presence

    - There is such a problem, but this is not how to solve it. Well, firstly, it is no secret that they lived well in the Caucasus in the USSR, and they did not need to go to Moscow. It is necessary to repeat the same situation. The standard of living, the development of social institutions, including health care and education - all this should be no worse than in the developed cities of Russia. And so, as now, when there is a focal development of the country (focal - only in several cities) - everyone will break into these cities. And you can’t forbid Caucasians either — they are also Russian citizens. And you can’t drive the Tajiks very much - they will return to their homeland, there is no work, they will begin to swell from hunger. Half will be engaged in narcotics, half - being dissatisfied, will start a civil war. What do we get? Flaming Tajikistan with increased drug trafficking, which is also hostile to Russia. Here you have everything somehow one-sided - expel, and that's it. Everything is simple. And about thinking, what will it lead to?
    That is why in Russia, with the world's largest territory in the world, you can only live in a dozen cities? How did it happen? The rest of the territory is not needed? Are needed. But why is it impossible to live there? Again, an unanswered question.
    This is precisely what I hope that the competent development of all these issues will be dealt with by this new state body. And about:
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Multiculture is at an impasse in Europe, more drastic measures are needed.

    - where does it come from? The USSR did not have this notion of the West. And, I hope, we will not need it. Multiculturalism is some kind of garbage, based on the assumption that people with different goals and with different values ​​and cultural attitudes can coexist on the same territory. In the USSR, these different goals and with different values ​​and cultural attitudes were reduced to a secondary level, the primary goal was the building of communism. In short, everyone worked side by side to achieve a common goal. As you can see, this worked. And you can repeat it. Only instead of communism you can easily set a common goal .... Well, I don’t know, why not set the goal of achieving world domination too? Amer put it this way and are not particularly shy about it, why not put it on?
    1. Igor
      Igor 13 June 2012 08: 42
      +4
      Quote: aksakal
      That is precisely what I hope that this new state body will be competent in resolving all these issues.


      In a country of lawlessness and total corruption, not a single state body will work normally, most likely this Sharashkina office will protect national minorities from Russian nationalism and which these same nationalities will contain. minorities.
    2. Armata
      Armata 13 June 2012 10: 45
      +2
      Quote: aksakal
      Here you have everything somehow one-sided - expel, and that's it

      Counterquestion. And did we make the same Tajikistan separate? Did we scream free us from the Tajiks? So it is not necessary to solve the problems of their poverty at the expense of Russia, that’s why Kazakhs I saw very little with us, mainly Kyrgyzstan, Tajiks, Uzbeks, not to mention the Caucasians.
      Quote: aksakal
      That is why in Russia, with the world's largest territory in the world, you can only live in a dozen cities? How did it happen? The rest of the territory is not needed? Are needed. But why is it impossible to live there? Again, an unanswered question.

      Again a counter question. And why do they go to those cities that we adapted and developed for life? We would go to conquer the virgin lands or taiga. They go to civilization and crap there.
  8. volcano
    volcano 13 June 2012 08: 19
    0
    Thanks and Plus to the Author.
    Absolutely spotted.
    The national question is the Achilles heel of Russia.
    The issue is dangerous, but nonetheless should be resolved as soon as possible.
    I want to wish the Council wise and balanced decisions.
    It would be nice if the Council could create an indestructible foundation on which peace will continue to rest in the relations of all peoples living in our country.
  9. Ridder
    Ridder 13 June 2012 08: 26
    +3
    They want the best, let's see what happens.
    1. Ridder
      Ridder 13 June 2012 09: 14
      +8
      The policy pursued in modern Russia aimed at breaking with the traditional values ​​of the Orthodox Slavic civilization for our country and replacing them with other civilizational models (Western or Islamic) is destructive for the state-forming peoples of Russia, primarily the Russian people, leading to further weakening and is already in the foreseeable future - to the destruction of Russian statehood.
      Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich
    2. A Smarter
      A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 43
      0
      Is this his true face?
  10. Igor
    Igor 13 June 2012 08: 33
    +6
    Putin gave the installation to the friendship of nations

    ...................................................................

    "According to the pike's command, according to my desire" (c) laughing

    Just the other day it became known that President Vladimir Putin took the initiative to create a Council on Interethnic Relations.


    None of this will work, even in the USSR, where there was a whole ministry of international relations and it could not prevent this strife, and in today's Russia, even more so, in general, the bureaucracy is spreading over the body of Russia like syphilis from Lenin, and they will sit there those who were very stealing (well, do not sit on their bunks, because in our country there is no one to work with). These dolbyotyatl in the government for 20 years. they say about imperfection grew. legislation on corruption, raiding, and they are engaged in hz than just not this and everyone is doing on .. bang.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 June 2012 08: 50
      +8
      Quote: Igorek
      None of this will work


      Now it seems they are trying to throw federal (people's) money, But it's not enough

      Chechnya expects to receive almost 2025 billion rubles from the federal center by 498. Of these, only 156,2 billion rubles. - to compensate residents who lost their homes “as a result of the military crisis in the Chechen Republic”. The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, emphasized that "projects need not only to be sent to the federal government," but also protected. Compensation from the state for the lost property of residents of Chechnya is not the first time. Requests of the Chechen authorities cost the Russian budget a lot of money and this money is always there.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 13 June 2012 09: 16
        +7
        Quote: Vadivak
        Of these, only 156,2 billion rubles. - to compensate residents who lost their homes “as a result of the military crisis in the Chechen Republic”.

        The most striking thing is that the Russian-speaking who lost their housing in Chechnya for one reason or another, ridiculously summed up a maximum of 150 thousand rubles.
        1. Igor
          Igor 13 June 2012 09: 19
          +3
          And even then not everyone.
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 26
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          The most striking thing is that the Russian-speaking lost housing in Chechnya


          At the same time, everyone somehow forgets that Grozny is a former Cossack village,
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 09: 38
            +4
            Human memory is short when people do good.
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 13 June 2012 10: 29
            +2
            Quote: Vadivak
            At the same time, everyone somehow forgets that Grozny is a former Cossack village,

            Yes, many things were "forgotten", and the entire left bank of the Terek with all the Cossack villages, and the Cossacks, were forgotten.
        3. Vasily79
          Vasily79 13 June 2012 09: 46
          0
          But skyscrapers are growing faster than Moscow City, and the entire infrastructure is better than in Moscow, now we will also develop tourism in the mountains at our expense
          1. Gavrilon
            Gavrilon 13 June 2012 10: 56
            -1
            Nat the question as it was and will be. Now think about whether the Chechens will go to a new war or riots when they have something to lose. Developing the republic after a decade of the war, pouring a ton of money into the development of the construction of the tourism infrastructure of leisure production, etc. we are extinguishing the military problem and it is likely that in 10 years it will be fashionable to relax in the ski resorts of the North Caucasus. The influx of foreign tourism and investment psychologically creates the desire to live in abundance rather than in the basement of the 90s. Mercenaries, Arabs, etc. Chechens themselves will be driven to the neck.
        4. Alexey Prikazchikov
          Alexey Prikazchikov 13 June 2012 16: 19
          0
          Yeah, they didn’t compensate us for 150 thousand. They said once your father got an apartment in Krasnoyarsk, then you aren’t refugees, and then when he died, our valiant together with Pasha Grachev tried to take this apartment to us, they just spat on us and the most annoying thing was that the Russians betrayed us .
      2. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 15: 20
        +2
        In general, it is necessary to change the tax system ... 75% of the income should remain in the region (republic) ... And then Siberia itself is on the verge of survival, and Moscow is eating on Siberian petrodollars ... It sends a lot of money to the North Caucasus ... This all wrong...
  11. NKVD
    NKVD 13 June 2012 08: 43
    +2
    Friendship of peoples does not exist - this is complete nonsense, there is friendship between individuals, and the rest is only a pro-dogmatic relationship.
  12. Vasily79
    Vasily79 13 June 2012 08: 44
    +2
    It has been historically proven that with strong central power, small nations themselves come and join Russia, and with a weak run away (The collapse of the USSR), let them not create advice but show power (Syria, Iran)
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: Vasily79
      It has been historically proven that under strong central authority, small nations themselves come and join Russia,


      100% - such was Georgia
      1. Vasily79
        Vasily79 13 June 2012 09: 26
        +3
        The very creation of Russia is based on the accession of small nations and if the topic of nat. discord, we can still be pokramsat, and those who ran away already pay for their nationalism (color revolutions). After all, their budgets are being torn.
  13. patriot2
    patriot2 13 June 2012 09: 09
    +1
    That's right - small nations themselves must come and join the Russian nation not at the expense of humiliating the Russian majority and dictating their beliefs and ideology to the majority of Russian-speakers. But the Russian nation must respect the faith in which other peoples live. But power should be behind the central authority of the country and its indigenous population - otherwise we will no longer be Russia.
  14. understudy
    understudy 13 June 2012 09: 19
    0
    I believe that it is not too late to instill "friendship" by force. But for this, Article 282 of the Criminal Code should cease to be called "Russian". Cash infusions "nowhere" and the creation of another ephemeral committee will not solve anything. The members of the commission on the rights of "chelovekoff" are already scattering, why would it ...
    But in principle, everything rests on corruption, which everyone and everyone is talking about, but with which they somehow beware of "fighting".
  15. Tatanka Yotanka
    Tatanka Yotanka 13 June 2012 09: 24
    +4
    it seems to me that this council will be another bureaucratic organization, with such a migration policy there is no sense in it, but in relation to the "horsemen" the authorities have long shown on whose side they are - the example of the "case of the Mitinsky policemen" - when they were given real terms for that they detained a drunk, armed, relative of Aslakhanov.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0Y-r-2uHiM
  16. Svistoplyaskov
    Svistoplyaskov 13 June 2012 09: 24
    +6
    On the issue of interethnic relations, it is necessary to keep a healthy middle, And not to make patriots out of the Natsiks, but out of "non-Russian" second-rate savages! We already have more than enough external problems and threats. And civil strife will mean the end of the Russian Federation! All efforts should be devoted to nurturing and educating a new generation loyal to each other, a strong united people, a powerful gigantic Russia! With regard to crimes, illegal emigration, then the head should be the LAW - tough and unshakable!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 June 2012 09: 45
      +5
      Quote: Whistling
      to nurture and educate a new generation loyal to each other, a strong united people, a powerful giant Russia!


      I agree. But this requires at least a national idea. And then it is behind the universal stupid boarding of the dough and is not visible
      1. Vasily79
        Vasily79 13 June 2012 09: 53
        +1
        And in my opinion there is an idea (United Russia) who loot those and they vote 90% for the master
        1. Svistoplyaskov
          Svistoplyaskov 13 June 2012 09: 56
          +2
          Thank you for understanding! The goal is United Strong Russia! The rest is just obstacles!
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 13 June 2012 10: 14
            +2
            Quote: Whistling
            Goal - United Strong Russia


            It was already, not a ride - For a single, indivisible.

            Need an idea so that everyone is a patriot? Russia should be for something. A person will not fight without realizing the reasons for his struggle. Need a motive. Now the motive is welfare. We are thriving on the idea of ​​accumulating capital by any means available and then withdrawing it over a hill.
  17. understudy
    understudy 13 June 2012 09: 54
    +2
    On the topic ... the consequences of criminal "tolerance". I cannot name it otherwise.
    ____________________________________
    "The investigating authorities of the Main Investigation Department for the city of Moscow of the Investigative Committee of Russia continue to investigate the criminal case into the attack on the fan of Alexei Usachev. The investigation filed charges in absentia against Rizvanov's accomplice, 21-year-old Magomed Eldiev, under Part 3 of Art. 30, Part 2 of Art. 105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (attempted murder for hooligan motives.) Currently, he is put on the international wanted list.
    The investigation found that on June 5, 2012, at about 19 o’clock, being on the Kievsky station square, acting on hooligan motives, Eldiev, using an insignificant reason, grabbed the victim by the hands and held while Rizvanov stabbed Usachev with a knife, SKR reports.
    The massacre at the Evropeisky shopping center occurred on June 5 at around 20.00 p.m. The events at the Kiev railway station on Tuesday evening developed as follows: in the park behind the McDonald's fast-food restaurant, “former residents of Chechnya” in their usual manner - “well, I didn’t like you” provoked a fight. At first, they repeatedly made attempts to approach Usachev and his friend Yevgeny Pavlov with questions and insults in order to “draw them into a verbal skirmish”.
    “The guys did not want to get involved in a conflict situation, they ignored the attackers and headed to a more crowded place, towards the nearest shopping center. The attackers, nevertheless, followed them in the direction of the "European", where they attacked with knives and traumatic weapons, "the Fratriya association of Spartak fans said in a statement.
    During the conflict, the 22-year-old "Rizvanov brandished an FSB officer identity card and called himself" looking at the Kiev station, "and shouted" slaughter Russian pigs. "
    Witnesses and operational officers of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation unequivocally claim that it was the Caucasians who initiated the fight.
    Then it happened out of the ordinary ...
    On the morning of June 8, police came to the hostel of the State Classical Academy named after Maimonides on 7th Lazenka Street in Novoperedelkino to forcibly bring for interrogation to the investigator two possible participants in the fight near the Evropeisky shopping center, but the inhabitants there tried to repel them, resulting in a fight that injured several policemen.
    Nevertheless, law enforcement officers fulfilled the order and brought to the investigator possible accomplices of a citizen suspected of committing a serious crime.
    Several police officers were forced to go to medical facilities to provide the necessary assistance. An audit is carried out on this fact, based on the results of which a procedural decision will be made.
    And it has already been accepted. “On June 9, 2012, investigating authorities of the Main Investigation Department for the city of Moscow of the IC of Russia against students and persons living in one of the capital’s dormitories opened a criminal case on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 of Art. 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (use of violence against a representative of the authorities), ”the official website of the TFR says.
    18 students, all natives of the North Caucasus, were detained. The detainees are in the Novoperedelkino police station. Delivered to the OVD on the morning of June 8 by operatives of the Moscow Criminal Investigation Department and soldiers of the Special Purpose Center ... "(c)
    And yet ... 40 Caucasian students are expelled from Moscow before the start of the next academic year at the university. Obviously for exemplary behavior.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 13 June 2012 10: 05
      +3
      Quote: Understudy
      40 Caucasian students are expelled from Moscow


      Well, what would they meet at home as heroes, if they were sent to Kolyma ....
    2. Vasily79
      Vasily79 13 June 2012 10: 12
      +1
      But in the Cossack villages they can’t be seen for a cannon shot. And while the scumbags will come, they must be pressed even harder. Although there are more effective ways to influence the diasporas (Clinton exiled youth gangs of megacities from the country in 1998, deprived relatives of benefits and rich compatriots lost all state contracts)
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 13 June 2012 10: 20
        +1
        Quote: Vasily79
        And in the Cossack villages they can’t see them for a cannon shot


        Read about Kushchevskaya,

        Unfortunately, the most seemingly fantastic assumptions about involvement in the bloody murder in the village of Kushchevskaya Caucasians (for example: Caucasians committed the murder in the Kuban) are beginning to come true.
        Many people familiar with the local specifics believed that only local crime restrained the expansion from the Caucasus to this region. Now competitors are eliminated by the hands of law enforcement agencies and the invasion of Caucasians has begun.
        1. Vasily79
          Vasily79 13 June 2012 10: 45
          +2
          Yes, Kushchevka is a lawlessness in the family, it’s not without a freak. And crime, as you know, is generally without nationality. Yes, and not all Russian surnames by the Cossacks, however, are of an order of magnitude greater, and if there are clashes (in Rostov) they themselves squeeze and prefer not to hide behind the riot police.
  18. foxhaund31
    foxhaund31 13 June 2012 10: 29
    +4
    With their charter, they don’t go to someone else’s monasteries, and if some kind of slop tub or a record of milk yield will dance a lezginka in the square, then he will get a shot in the ass.
  19. Ion coaelung
    Ion coaelung 13 June 2012 10: 44
    +5
    Today, every adequate person in Russia understands that the interethnic problem in the country remains more than acute.


    And inadequate only grind this edge .... And by the way, it doesn’t matter if it is white or black, red or purple, provocations come from different. And adequate different! Today, in the morning, for example, in a series of tokens standing, with a child (a small child, in his arms), a young Caucasian man came up and offered us tokens so as not to stand and wait. Our nobility will be counted towards him, and in the carriage, a bunch of Russian young, native Petersburgers (from the cultural capital), nobody cares, until his mother asked the young man to give her up, no one twitched. So the blame does not need to be thrown at each other, but to begin with oneself. And to punish those who are to blame, and not all in a row for skin color or other differences!
  20. baron.nn
    baron.nn 13 June 2012 10: 56
    +2
    It’s time to clean up the migration issue. Guests must live according to local laws, and not according to their own, often wild laws! This is the main thing! This is the basis of good neighborly life between different nationalities!
    1. Ion coaelung
      Ion coaelung 13 June 2012 11: 11
      +2
      You know, all the same, there is much that can be learned from them, for example, respect for elders! It may sound insulting to purebred Russians, but not everyone can be the standard of decency! As I wrote above, but in other words, this is a problem not of a separate nationality, but of a separate category of people.
  21. Rodver
    Rodver 13 June 2012 11: 10
    +1
    Do not forget Nerekhta!



    The killing by Caucasians of a 23-year-old resident overflowed the patience of citizens
    Last Tuesday, in the town of Nerekhta, located in the Kostroma region, they buried 23-year-old Alexei Tumashevich, who was stabbed to death on the night of June 3 near the local Palace of Culture. At least 500 people attended the funeral of the young man, which is a lot for a small provincial town with a population of 24. And after the burial at the place of Alexey’s death, about 1000 residents gathered, demanding to find the guilty and punish the police, who did not come to help in time. Reinforced police squads quickly pulled to the square, and the heads of law enforcement agencies and the city administration arrived.
    - They were scared of riots. The reason for this was: unarmed Alexei and his two friends were stabbed by Caucasian guys. And only because in the club, during the dances, he stepped on one of them on the foot. Immediately apologized. However, they demanded a "showdown". How dare he do it! - says one of the participants of the action Lidia Terenteva.
    - Why are young Caucasians allowed to walk around the city with knives? Other residents go unarmed. And these came to the club with weapons. They killed a young man for no reason. This means that they are not afraid of anyone: neither the police nor the authorities. They are the owners here! A month ago, in the same nightclub "Strawberry Night", which is located in the Yubileiny Palace of Culture, a mass brawl of youth of different nationalities took place right on the dance floor, in which the guys who subsequently killed Alexei also participated. And then they brandished knives. But this did not alert law enforcement officers, - Olga Semyonova, another participant in the protest, is indignant.
    “It seems that the authorities and the police were frightened of us: they promised that they would detain the criminals, and the public council, consisting of ordinary non-residents, will observe the progress of the investigation,” says a resident of the city, Andrei Pobedin. “They realized that people no longer intend to endure the outrages that are happening here.”


    Alexey Tumashevich

    Three young people, Alexei Tumashevich, Andrei Yegorov and Andrei Baikin entered the Nerekht Central District Hospital with multiple stab wounds. Alex was in a state of clinical death, his doctors could not save. Andrei Baikin is in critical condition with a penetrating knife wound in the stomach. The condition of Andrei Egorov among doctors is now not a concern.
    21-year-old Arthur, who was born in Armenia and 24-year-old Alikhan, a native of Kostroma region, is suspected of reprisal against them. His parents came here from the then Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. The latter was detained yesterday.
    At the forum "Kostroma Jedi" topic "Kuschevka in Nerekht" has already gained more than 53 views. From many participants in the discussion, calls for reprisals against the participants in the fight and their families are heard.
    Judging by the information of the non-Jewish firefighters, someone has already begun to implement the appeals. A day after the incident, late at night, near one of the five-story houses located on Victory Street, a Volkswagen minibus, belonging to the family of one of the alleged members of the stabbing, caught fire. The fire damaged the wheel and the door of the car.
    The mother of the deceased Tatyana Tumashevich reacted to this with a letter to the residents of the city: “My dear non-residents! I am writing to you with words of gratitude and appreciation for the help and participation in my grief. My family appreciates and loves you all. We urge you to be tolerant and considerate of all rumors concerning our tragic situation. Nationalism has never been cultivated in our family ... Among my students there are children of different nationalities. There are all kinds of people in all nations! The only terrible thing is that in our time, a young guy, because he accidentally stepped on his foot and apologized, got a knife in his heart. We are against the cult of power and impunity! Be kind and merciful to each other! I urge you to do this as a mother and teacher!
    Information has reached us that young people want to open a checking account to help our family. I beg you: do not do this, you all helped us a lot! I am a strong woman, my children and relatives are with me. Help those who are really in great need!
    Tatyana Tumashevich and my family. ”


    Palace of Culture, near which there was a fight

    - The police did not promptly respond to the fight because no one called her. Witnesses of what was happening were a large number of people - visitors to the club. But not one of them thought of calling the police. Only the doctors reported the incident after they brought the injured to the hospital, ”says Elena Tirshanova, senior assistant to the information and public relations department of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Kostroma region.
    “SP”: - But the club is located in the very center of the city. Is there not a single policeman nearby?
    - It turned out.
    "SP": - Residents complain of police officers who do not respond to young Caucasians, walking around the city with knives.
    “I didn’t hear them not react.”
    There were no officials in the Nerekhta city administration who wanted to talk about the tragedy.
    Armine Dzhuvalikyan, chairman of the Armenian National Cultural Autonomy and the Kostroma Regional Union of Armenians of Russia, said that Arthur, who was suspected of killing a young man, was originally from Armenia, but by ethnicity isis:
    - In addition, I heard that the Russian guys began to pester them: once they hit on the leg, the second time they hit. Arthur said: "You are uncivilized." They hit again. Then Arthur hit one of them. Russian guys demanded to go out. Come out. About 20 people were waiting for them there. They were probably very scared, and so they started to use knives.
    “SP”: - Do Caucasian people carry weapons on the streets due to national customs?
    - Such a custom exists among peoples living in the mountains. But they put on weapons only on holidays.
    "SP": - Why did your countrymen come with knives to the club?
    - I can not answer this question. I can say that such facts exacerbate the already difficult interethnic relations in Russian cities.


    Memorial stone at the site of the death of Alexei

    We are trying to make friends with the population of the Kostroma region. We arrived in November last year in Nerekhta to celebrate the day of national unity. We were pleased.
    The neighbor of the family of the deceased, Lyudmila Slepakova, refutes much that was said by Armine Dzhuvalikyan:
    - Twenty people did not confront the Caucasian guys. They were just witnesses. These are club visitors. We were promised to catch the killers, but they did not promise to take away the knives from the visitors. Yes, many of them were born here. They are like ours. But why go with knives?
    A few days ago, friends established a memory at the site of the death of Alexei
    1. Petrol
      Petrol 13 June 2012 15: 10
      +1
      there are no words ....
    2. Hairy Siberian
      Hairy Siberian 14 June 2012 02: 30
      0
      Now is such a time, people in clubs and not only to kill each other find not only inter-ethnic motive. For example, in our city during the winter, in the clubs, the guards simply committed two murders! It’s as if the people were already brutalized! It’s just that international incidents have a great resonance! If they killed a Caucasian or an Asian, they would say that he was to blame and no one would come to his funeral! I hope that in Russia the time will come when the Law will punish everyone equally harshly and inexorably regardless of nationality!
  22. Slavs69
    Slavs69 13 June 2012 11: 31
    +2
    Quote: Steam Train
    We would go to conquer the virgin lands or taiga. They go to civilization and crap there.

    They are already going, they are also shitting, they are tearing everything clean. When the cedar and berry trade begins, Uzbek Tajiks compete with the Chinese. It is painful to look at the taiga, and the most painful thing is that the tenant of this section (where the Gentiles are hired) is the same local huckster.
  23. makuho
    makuho 13 June 2012 11: 55
    0
    There is no Stalin on them. To gather everyone at night on the wagon, to shove and to houses without the right to return, everyone to their homeland, let them live there according to their own laws. And to sell the remaining property ...
  24. Manager
    Manager 13 June 2012 12: 01
    +2
    I will say one thing. If there will be a civil war, then the Caucasians will unleash this war. And believe me ..... in cities, losses among the Orthodox will be tens of times greater than among Caucasians. .... OH finish our government! Things to do, not committees to create!
    1. ivagulin
      ivagulin 13 June 2012 12: 29
      +4
      unfortunately you are right, Caucasians are almost completely armed + feel their impunity and, on occasion, put into action all their means from weapons to their damn diasporas. A paradoxical situation has developed: Russians in their state feel themselves insecure by a national minority. If I use weapons to protect me from these animals, then the state machine will roll me into a pancake or the diaspora will crash, then ALL of them are allowed
      1. Armata
        Armata 13 June 2012 13: 12
        +4
        Well, damn it or not is not yet known. Only in winter, one Dagestani crushed his face for the fact that he drove my son off the hill, so he swore to me with all mortal punishments and that he would cut him up, but as a result he ran to the cops and they ran to me, like they went to the department. I then Izh 81 loaded with a wild boar, put it at the door and told my wife they would be hollowed shoot right through the doors, Vali of these creatures. The cops looked at each other and didn’t say anything, but they slapped me to incite ethnic hatred, the lawyer was good at the trial, so they changed for bodily harm, and he didn’t appear, he sent a lawyer. Now, like for the fact that he suffered, I owe him 21000 rubles to give. Yes, and the penalty had to pay 14000 in court. Only he even already 4 month does not go for the dough, apparently the cops warned, but I really would like to see him.
  25. raptorr
    raptorr 13 June 2012 12: 53
    0
    The friendship of peoples ... This is when the Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Georgians, Kazakhs, Germans, Chinese, join hands and go ...
    Something from the Soviet era. I do not remember exactly.
  26. Alex63
    Alex63 13 June 2012 13: 11
    +6
    I like how Putin starts another campaign. First, a problem is created. And then we start looking for ways to solve it. And Putin, as always, is ahead in the yellow Lada Kalina. Millions of visitors are pouring into the country in a frenzied stream (I say tolerantly, otherwise OMON will come home). These newcomers begin to establish their own rules, to put pressure on the local population (mostly Russians - why they do not like us so much, probably because we are hospitable and ready to help?) Then local businessmen set penny salaries in their firms, for which our men naturally do not go
    (social package, vacation, sick leave, no). In the city, rents are lifted up because newcomers live in one-room apartments for ten to fifteen people (the arithmetic is simple: one-room apartment costs about 15-20 thousand a month. Everyone living in the hut pays 7 - 10 thousand. Multiply by 10. With visitors it rolls. They are willing to pay.) Next. Last year I changed my passport by age. Defended, as the line should be. Madame stood before me. She behaved modestly; she didn’t get into row skirmishes. But when after a couple of people she needed to go into the office for an appointment, she made a call on her cell phone and ten minutes later about twenty Kyrgyz people came running (to hell tolerance!). The queue began to be indignant. The Kyrgyz began to raise a voice at us and send Russian peasants with those words for which it was necessary to kill for concepts. Plus, this lady began to call someone (as I understood from her fragmentary phrases, somewhere in migration), that he could not agree that the documents of the Kyrgyz that she brought would be considered out of turn. There were about five local peasants. We tried to explain to the Kirghiz the order and rules of life on Russian soil, but for some reason the duty officer decided to call us to order and promised to call the outfit especially for us. Although we didn’t even speak loudly. Then this cop approached this madam and told her to I entered the 20th cabinet. After that, a crowd of Kirghiz went hungry in their Basurmani language. To hell with Putin's tolerance and friendship of peoples! I do not care about the nationality of a person who accepts and respects the lifestyle of the region where he came. I also have friends among Koreans, Japanese, Chechens, Azerbaijanis, Armenians. I have a brother-in-law - Korean. My father is a Pole. My maternal grandfather is Hungarian. My grandmother is Russian. God himself told me not to be a nationalist. But I am a nationalist in my Homeland, in the country in which I was born. And I want to tell all those who come to us. And white, and yellow, and black, and brown. You go to the Russians. And if so, then learn to respect us, our life and our ways. Putin's tolerance is not for us. I don’t want a drunken Kyrgyz in my porch ... l (this was a week ago. All I gave birth to him about his d ... smeared). I do not want the same Kirghiz in my yard to make a showdown between themselves (they called the cops, but did not wait). I want it to be like this: if you came to us, live in peace on equal terms with us. And if you don’t follow our rules, with your fist in the nose and over the hill.
    1. ivagulin
      ivagulin 13 June 2012 16: 29
      +1
      "To hell with the tolerance and friendship of peoples in Putin's style! I do not care about the nationality of a person who accepts and respects the way of life of the region where he came. I have friends among Koreans, Japanese, Chechens, Azerbaijanis, Armenians." In the top ten !!!!!!!!
  27. Samsebenaum
    Samsebenaum 13 June 2012 13: 11
    +12
    I don’t know what our Only One is going to do in the new Council, but if we take Chechnya as an example and that tribute for the peace that we pay to Ramzan, then we will not be enough for everyone. Without pants, we’ll stay with this approach ...
    I believe that there are several important factors for resolving national issues.
    First, to formulate a clear definition of the concept of "Russian nation" (by analogy - Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Tatars, etc.) and, finally, to start strengthening self-esteem and respect for the Russian people.
    Secondly, - primordial peoples a priori should have more privileges and protection from the state in their historical territory compared with newcomers.
    Third, labor activity, the rules of residence, and observance of the norms of social behavior of visitors should be under the strict control of not only law enforcement forces, but also interested public organizations.
    Fourth, the number and expansion of national communities outside the territories of national subjects of the federation should be strictly limited, and the construction of religious and other national facilities should be decided only with the approval of local residents.
    Fifth, all serious conflicts and crimes on a national basis should for deportees end with deportation (except for special cases).
    And sixth, the state should establish clear and understandable rules for the stay and residence of migrants in the native Russian, Slavic lands, taking into account the mentality, religion and values ​​of Russian people.
    I think that this approach has its advantages in this situation.
    1. PARROT
      PARROT 13 June 2012 13: 24
      +2
      You think such arguments as you have in the government do not? Everyone perfectly understands how to do it right, but they don’t do it because they don’t benefit from it.
    2. Weekend
      Weekend 13 June 2012 14: 17
      +1
      I support your point of view, subscribe to every word!
    3. Alex63
      Alex63 13 June 2012 15: 55
      +3
      Samsebenauma, plus and agree. But beware! Putinoids are not asleep. They will enlist you as nationalists and oranges. Your point of view does not fit with the official policies of the Putin cabinet.
      1. Samsebenaum
        Samsebenaum 13 June 2012 16: 37
        +3
        Alex63
        Yes, let them enroll anywhere ... I express my view of what is happening.
        By the way, often the official point of view does not fit with mine. And why should she knit something? I live in a depressed region and if I go anywhere, no one repairs the roads before my arrival and does not direct the marafet. So that I see everything without embellishment. I do not live outside the Kremlin walls, but among ordinary people and hear their frank conversations "for life".
        And in conclusion, I’ll say that my thoughts are aimed at improving the situation in Russia, since I don’t and never will have another homeland.
        I have nothing in common with orange, and healthy nationalism in my case can be safely replaced with the word patriotism.
        1. Alex63
          Alex63 13 June 2012 23: 40
          +1
          SAMSEBENAUM, the fact of the matter is that those who show healthy nationalism, who care about preserving the greatness of their nation, who oppose the huge influx of migrants to their country, who oppose the destruction of the Russian defense, economy, industry, agriculture, education and For some reason, science, health care are called extremists, separatists, Nazis, orange and other labels are glued. I don't know what Udaltsov and Sobchak are fighting for, their PR and ideas are far from me. But if I believe that the country made a tragic mistake, again believing in fairy tales and behaving in alms, electing Putin as president, if I believe that the Federation Council and the Duma are puppets in the hands of United Russia and Putin (even the hand does not rise to attribute to his name "president "), if I believe that the normally thinking population of the country should demand from the thought to begin the procedure for removing Putin from power and investigating all his cases and the affairs of his associates in the Kremlin and the government, then this is my opinion and I will not change it.
          1. Samsebenaum
            Samsebenaum 14 June 2012 00: 54
            0
            Alex63
            I’m even at a loss to give an answer. There is a double-edged sword ... In any case, the choice was made by the majority of our compatriots and it is impossible to ignore this, Alexander. Good or bad, time and society will judge. But radicalism for Russia has always come sideways ... But for the most part I understand and share your righteous anger.
            1. Alex63
              Alex63 14 June 2012 06: 30
              +2
              The fact is that the majority of the population of Russia lives with philistine-plebeian concepts and the rule: "If only there is no war." The authorities intimidate them with all kinds of revolutions and other horror stories. Everyone who does not think like Putin is painted orange. The people are afraid of radical changes in power. Reasoning: let Putin rule, except there is no one else. Why not?!! If you change the electoral system in the country, if you shut off the administrative valve of the United Russia Party, put this party on the same level with the others (not in words, but in deeds), a lot can change. See what the EP starts to do before each election. They start to change their leaders. It resembles a brothel where prostitutes choose a new mom-san every time. The people do not need to be afraid of change. Nobody needs revolutions and civil wars. You just need to tell the truth to our government. Although who will tell her this truth? Workers from Uralvagonzavod? These are truly strikebreakers. They put on new overalls and a crowd of people at a meeting with Putin to express "approval" and "support". It was not disgusting to ourselves later? Probably at home in the kitchen they spat and annoyed with a bottle. So it is necessary not at home in the kitchen, but in person and the truth.
              It’s somehow gloomy. The feeling that the country has entered a vicious circle. It's a pity the passing time of my life. And if this continues to continue, then you begin to regret the life time of your children. I do not want them to live according to the plebeian laws.
    4. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 16: 27
      -1
      Quote: Samsebenum
      I believe that there are several important factors for resolving national issues. Firstly, to formulate a clear definition of the concept of "Russian nation" (by analogy - Ukrainians, Kazakhs, Tatars, etc.) and finally to start strengthening the self-esteem of respect for the Russian people Secondly, the indigenous peoples a priori should have more privileges and protection from the state on their historical territory compared to newcomers. Thirdly, labor activity, rules of residence, compliance with the norms of social behavior of newcomers should be under the strict control of not only law enforcement forces, but also interested public organizations. Fourth, the number and expansion of national communities outside the territories of the national subjects of the federation should be strictly limited, and the construction of religious and other national facilities should be resolved only with the approval of local residents. Fifth, all serious conflicts and crimes on ethnic grounds should end with deportation for newcomers ( except for special cases) And sixth, the state should establish clear and understandable rules for the stay and residence of migrants in the primordially Russian, Slavic lands, taking into account the mentality, religion and values ​​of the Russian people.



      On paper, of course, this is good ... But everything will be different, the corruption is ineradicable ... In fact, the main principles of national regulation should be performed by the representatives of the titular nation themselves. Those.:
      1. The ban on commercial activities of non-Russians. Do not buy or sell anything from them. Housing not to build.
      2. a ban on marrying non-Russians, non-Russian children should be outlawed (even if one of the parents is Russian)
      3. No relationship with non-Russians. No legal support. If a non-Russian is discovered on Russian soil, deportation.
      This recipe is the guarantor of the preservation of Russia from foreigners.
      1. synchrophasatron
        synchrophasatron 13 June 2012 19: 39
        0
        Shuhrat, add the fourth paragraph - measure the shape of the head, if it does not meet the standards - in a concentration camp.
        Negative on health, 2 points outright fascism.
        1. Shuhrat turani
          Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 20: 03
          +1
          Quote: synchrophasatron
          2 point outright fascism.



          absolutely right ... But such are the moods not only in Muscovy, but in all of Russia ... Alas ...
    5. volcano
      volcano 13 June 2012 16: 52
      +1
      Greetings to Samsenebaum.
      You stunned me like a shaft. "Tribute" could not be more precise.
      I now thought a little and agreed with you one hundred percent. Very well said. Plus definitely.
      We should now think about how to stop paying it. Send them all to hell.
      Do we really have to be afraid of Russians? Maybe you just need to choose the power that thinks about us, and not about them.
    6. 16
      16 14 June 2012 00: 56
      0
      totally agree !!!!!!!
  28. vadimN
    vadimN 13 June 2012 13: 53
    +2
    For a sample of balanced national policy, I am addressing all those interested in this very national policy of the Russian Empire until 1917. For centuries, Russia has gathered nations and not one of them has disappeared, has not died out, has not lost its cultural roots. No matter what the post-revolutionary Bolshevik propagandists say, this is so. And the peoples of the Russian Empire retained their national identity within the framework of this empire and did not suffer from it at all. They even successfully use this self-consciousness now, spitting on the Russian people and ruining the remnants of the empire. There is no historical memory ... not to mention gratitude ...
    1. Alex63
      Alex63 14 June 2012 08: 43
      0
      What gratitude are you talking about? Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis forgot how the Turks slaughtered them whole villages. If it weren’t for Russians, then mass genocide would turn these peoples into something like North American Indians who do not have their own statehood. There is no need to talk about Ukrainians at all. Our native, Slavic blood, but the Russian people are treated worse than the Nazis. Belarusians are the only ones who do not spit in our backs. But in relation to them, our Kremlin authorities take a double position with an eye on the West. According to the principle: both want and prick, but the West does not order. Balts are generally puppets in the hands of the West. Parasitic countries. Industry zero. They sow something and collect it. But they thirst to open their throats. They forgot how in Soviet times they were dependents on the neck of Russians. Maybe it was necessary to keep the peoples of these republics in a black body, now they would be grateful.
  29. sergey261180
    sergey261180 13 June 2012 14: 06
    +3
    The government is not Russian - this is the main ethnic problem.
    1. Alex63
      Alex63 14 June 2012 08: 46
      +1
      Our government is Russian. But there everyone sleeps on the same bed and eat from the same bowl. Both superiors and subordinates. How can someone order something and call to account?
      1. sergey261180
        sergey261180 14 June 2012 11: 54
        -1
        But there everyone sleeps on the same bed and eat from the same bowl. Both superiors and subordinates

        Is there homosexual communists or what? You can have a Russian face and not be Russian at the same time.
  30. Weekend
    Weekend 13 June 2012 14: 13
    +4
    Where he was born, THERE and fit! Although the country is multinational, one should not go into a strange monastery with its own charter, Russians do not go either to Dagestan or to Chechnya for the purpose of profit and do not arrange their own rules there. In general, in Russia, at least once a week, a crime occurs with the participation of people from the Caucasus. Of course, all people cannot be judged by a hundred black sheep, but there must be a political will to punish this "hundred" so that others would not have it.
    1. vadimN
      vadimN 13 June 2012 14: 25
      0
      Yeah .... and then all sorts of "human rights activists" come out screaming "They are offending the non-Russian population!" You are right - there are no criminal nations, but statistics make one think ... Either it happens, or only scum go to Russia from their places. If, for example, 1 million people live in a city, and 100 thousand of them are nationals, then in the statistics of crimes the share of nationalities is 10%. And the screeching of "human rights activists" begins ... But if out of 100 thousand people. In one way or another, 90 thousand nationals are involved in crime, then they will not take up much space in the gross crime statistics. But look at it all from a different angle! If 90% of nationalities are covered up in crimes, then who are they within this city? criminal nation or "white and fluffy" ??? Statistics are a crafty thing ...
      It is not necessary to look at the share of the people in the total mass of crimes, but the share of criminals in a specific diaspora living in a particular city. Then the picture is completely different ...
      1. Weekend
        Weekend 13 June 2012 15: 09
        +1
        vadimN, Yes, everything is simple;) We make a detention, ask the following questions:
        - Citizenship?
        - Residence?
        - Residence by registration?
        - Place of work?
        Based on these data, work is carried out and this individual (if he was not a participant / accomplice in the crime) is sent to the place of registration.
    2. Manager
      Manager 13 June 2012 15: 01
      +2
      Quote: Helg
      Russians do not go to Dagestan or Chechnya for the purpose of profit and do not arrange their orders there


      Yeah, have you been in Dagestan for a long time? Or in Grozny? It’s just scary to be Russian down the street .... Try to impose at least something on it .....
      1. Weekend
        Weekend 13 June 2012 15: 12
        +1
        Therefore, I wrote that they do not go bully and will not go of their own accord.
      2. Lakkuchu
        Lakkuchu 13 June 2012 16: 35
        +1
        You’re telling some horrors directly. That's what I look at, all my acquaintances Russians moved to cars, apparently they are afraid to walk around Makhachkala on foot laughing You yourself were in Dagestan? Apparently - no, otherwise they would not have written such nonsense! fool
        1. Manager
          Manager 13 June 2012 17: 18
          0
          Quote: Lakkuchu
          Apparently - no


          I traveled half the Caucasus to work. And the entire Krasnodar Territory (for work (not for service)). And he made conclusions for himself. Therefore, you can say anything. But I personally will not let my friends or relatives go (to the Caucasus)!
          1. Lakkuchu
            Lakkuchu 13 June 2012 18: 40
            0
            Nothing, there are those who come. We are always happy to welcome guests, and you will not meet such hospitable people as in the Caucasus, Russia.
  31. Petrol
    Petrol 13 June 2012 14: 57
    +2
    sergey261180 RU Today, 14:06 I completely agree with you, starting with Vladimir the Baptist, some foreigners and * vyrodki (* vy- void) on the throne of Russia
  32. Yarbay
    Yarbay 13 June 2012 15: 34
    +1
    Alexey!
    With all due respect to you, I consider your article inciting ethnic hatred, or rather half the article!
    You gave examples of crimes of foreigners, but did not write anything about those who cut their heads to Tajiks, who burned foreigners in eternal flame !!
    So wrong Gospodin Volodin!
    ** It is interethnic conflicts that can undermine the situation in the country in the way that not a single economic cataclysm can undermine it. ** - this is true !!
    1. Armata
      Armata 13 June 2012 15: 42
      +1
      Dear Alibek. Each action gives rise to opposition. In this case, at first the diasporas appeared and started outrage, at the hands of their brothers, and then the National Bolsheviks counteracted it, I experienced it in my own skin.
      Quote: Yarbay
      You gave examples of crimes of foreigners, but did not write anything about those who cut their heads to Tajiks, who burned foreigners in eternal flame !!
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 13 June 2012 15: 50
        0
        Dear Eugene!
        I am well aware of how and how it started!
        Understand the question is not in opposition !! Kill of innocent people you call opposition?
        All such issues should be dealt with by the relevant services !!
        but what you write who first started is not serious!
        The authorities should nip such creeps in the bud, and it stimulated them !!
        I am sure that everything was organized from one center!
        1. Armata
          Armata 13 June 2012 15: 55
          +1
          That is, in Russia, nationalist groups first appeared and then the outrage of immigrants began?
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 13 June 2012 16: 20
            +1
            That is, in Russia, people close to the authorities organized certain groups
            to undermine national security in the country !!
            and I repeat, nationalist groupings were from the very beginning of these events!
            1. Armata
              Armata 14 June 2012 07: 06
              +1
              Alibek I don’t understand why they are minus, your comments are very useful to find the truth. I can say that with 86-90 we had a lot of defense industries, including the famous Uralmashevskaya, Central and one of the most influential was the Caucasus, but that was not the point. Caucasians oversaw markets and neighborhoods around, collected tribute for the protection of fruit caravans; as a result, those who arrived began to greyhound on Russians who lived in those neighborhoods and clashes began (I myself lived near the Central Market) and we began to gather in groups, armed with something maybe they asked for help from the Central bandits and went to wet everyone who looks askance in our direction. Then I went into the army, and comrades still lead and participate in the movement of the National Bolsheviks, only the methods have now become different since you correctly noticed that funding has appeared, and now they are fighting mainly through the media, and there are only scumbags in the streets who can use energy nowhere to go. By the way, it is the Caucasian diasporas to calls to live according to our rules, from these media they shout that here their rights are infringed and they will live according to their own laws. So why should we love them here?
  33. Magadan
    Magadan 13 June 2012 15: 55
    +2
    Quote: Shuhrat Turani
    They need to be separated, fenced off by walls, let them live as they want ... Russian house, for Russians ...

    Then there will be no Russian or Caucasian houses. Everything will become Liberation with gay pride parades and other delights. All these slogans "Russia for the Russians" are beneficial to NATO supporters.
    The skirmishes were and will be. This is bad, but not fatal for the country. There are actually not so many scumbags and we must confront them at the usual grassroots level, such as a crowd came out into a crowd and smashed each other's faces.
    With scumbags, the conversation should be short, simply because they are scumbags, and the Caucasus has nothing to do with it. A friend from Stavropol told me how a crowd of roofing felts of Caucasians toli who else arranged dances near some kind of cinema. As a result, the car stopped and some unknown one of them shot from the traumatic. Without calling for such measures, I’ll say that there will most likely be a showdown at this level, and then everything will calm down.
    And the fact that Caucasians are bad and we don’t need ... and Alan Dzagoev, who has already scored 3 of the year for the national team, maybe we don’t need either?
    1. Shuhrat turani
      Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 16: 14
      +1
      Quote: Magadan
      And the fact that Caucasians are bad and we don’t need ... and Alan Dzagoev, who has already scored 3 of the year for the national team, maybe we don’t need either?


      This is only a special case ... In general, the above comments and conversations on the streets of the cities indicate the opposite ... The Federation is a chimera, an attempt to combine the incongruous ...

      Quote: Magadan
      Then there will be neither a Russian house nor a Caucasian. Everything will become Liberasty with gay parades and other delights


      This payment for hormones in the Russian soul ... You have to pay for everything ...
    2. Marat
      Marat 13 June 2012 19: 35
      +1
      I fully support Comrade Magadan!
      Thinking otherwise weaken the country - pouring water on the mill of the world aggressor.
      But of course there are problems - and they need to be addressed. There are many ways - but to break up the federation is stupid. On the contrary, integration and further enlargement are now underway. It is useful to recall the experience of the USSR - it is impossible to restore it completely - but we have lost a lot of useful things. In any case, the Union did not have national problems in the form as they are now.
      We also have a lot of guest workers from Central Asia - and there are enough Caucasians too - perhaps even more (specifically) than in Russia - but for some reason there is no such "intensity of passions" - everything is much quieter than in Russia - maybe we need to study this experience too?
      1. Shuhrat turani
        Shuhrat turani 13 June 2012 20: 09
        +1
        Quote: Marat
        We also have a lot of guest workers from Central Asia - and there are enough Caucasians too - perhaps even more (specifically) than in Russia - but for some reason there is no such "intensity of passions" - everything is much quieter than in Russia - maybe we need to study this experience too?


        This is also an interesting oddity ... The level of nationalism among Qazaqs is no less than that among Russians ... but for some reason there are no such performances ... strange ...
        1. synchrophasatron
          synchrophasatron 13 June 2012 20: 17
          0
          you can’t dance with the Kazakhs on the street ... But the nationalists are still those ... Maybe it’s necessary, their state, they live as they want
  34. andrew.z
    andrew.z 13 June 2012 16: 04
    0
    "The resettlement of migrants for permanent residence in the Russian Federation is becoming one of the sources of increasing the population of the country as a whole and its regions, and the attraction of foreign workers in priority vocational qualification groups in accordance with the needs of the Russian economy is a necessity for its further progressive development," the concept says. June 13 - RIA Novosti. The population of Russia by 2025 may reach 142,8-145,6 million people, according to the Russian Migration Policy Concept for the corresponding period, signed by President Vladimir Putin.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 14 June 2012 12: 08
      0
      The population size is certainly good. But what can the Russians do? Wrap yourself in a white sheet and crawl to the cemetery? Why raise the standard of living, culture and birth rate of Russians, if you can let immigrants? The current "elite" is pursuing a policy that does not take into account the interests of the Russian people, and therefore is the main enemy of the Russian people. Obviously, without changing this elite, the Russians have no chance of survival.
  35. serge
    serge 13 June 2012 16: 24
    +2
    In the USSR, this problem was solved at a time. Residence permit. It is worth introducing it, and the friendship of peoples will be openwork, for each proud mountainous people will be registered on their own name of grief and will be dismantled from it only in cases stipulated by law, and not bandits, but those who want to get an education will come off. And those who violate the registration are harshly criminally liable. And there will be quiet and smooth. But the current government will not solve this problem. Since it itself consists of migrants (no one will deny that Jews are migrants on the territory of Russia, I hope?). And do not mind pushing other nationalities, while she rules.
  36. IRBIS
    IRBIS 13 June 2012 17: 22
    +1
    The current migration policy - you can’t imagine worse. And no logic. Well - Caucasians, they are citizens of the Russian Federation and have the right to travel around Russia. But the Uzbeks, Tajiks and other Asians who have flooded our cities - is it WHO? Skilled labor? Hedgehogs understand that this is how they make money. More precisely - a lot of money. And do not, for starters, do something coordinating. It is simply necessary to ensure equality before the law and the inevitability of punishment for its violation. For all, without adjustments for the nation, weight, height, eye and hair color! And do not follow the lead of the diasporas and other gangster organizations similar to them. They themselves will be dumped into the mountains and deserts. It will be easier for them.
  37. malera
    malera 13 June 2012 17: 43
    +1
    traditional values ​​of Orthodox Slavic civilization for our country and replacing them with other civilization models (Western or Islamic) is fatal for the state-forming peoples of Russia, primarily the Russian people, leading to further weakening and, in the foreseeable future, to the destruction of Russian statehood.
    Ivashov Leonid Grigorievich
    [/ Quote]
    Not certainly in that way. The Kremlin regime does not pursue any national policy at all. The Kremlin’s position is that of an ostrich with its head buried in the sand. Why in Russia it is impossible for a Russian to defend his national interests. Why they don’t listen to people who say that they are tired of the influx of Kyrgyz, Tajiks, etc. Why do Italian engineers fix problems with visas for coming to Russia, and an Azerbaijani can wipe his persimmon on the market without any visas. Regarding the replacement of traditional values ​​for our country by the values ​​of the Orthodox-Slavic civilization by Western civilization models. Ivashov lacks historical knowledge. Constantinople, where Orthodoxy came from, was a representative of Western civilization (eastern branch for simplification).
    Eastern civilization for Russia was in the form of the influence of the Golden Horde. So do not say that the Russians are not representatives of Western civilization. Therefore, Russians easily find a common language with the Swedes and French, and hardly with the Arabs and Caucasians.

    quote = Magadan] Hassles were and will be. This is bad, but not fatal for the country. There are actually not so many scumbags and we must confront them at the usual grassroots level, such as a crowd came out into a crowd and smashed each other's faces.
    With scumbags, the conversation should be short, simply because they are scumbags, and the Caucasus has nothing to do with it. [/ Quote]

    You are wrong, dear. Skirmishes are just the tip of the iceberg. And the Caucasus has nothing to do with it. The Caucasian people are not capable of assimilation. And so they will always be a splinter in the body of Russia. A splinter is always pulled out of the body.
    At the same time, the Finno-Ugric and Uralic peoples quite normally assimilate of their own accord into the Russian people. None of the Russians, I hope, object to this.
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 13 June 2012 19: 59
      0
      malera (1) Today, 17: 43

      where do you come from? they’re just like being found in cabbage ..
  38. Oleg0705
    Oleg0705 13 June 2012 19: 23
    -2
    Putin gave the installation to the friendship of nations


    the necessary setting, a little late, but better late than never .. and this is for foreigners so far temporary, I believe in the USSR-2 - "Whose cart you are riding, sing that song" Caucasian proverb smile
  39. synchrophasatron
    synchrophasatron 13 June 2012 19: 23
    +1
    The national question is on a par with Afghan drug trafficking, low oil prices, etc. is a threat to national security. No one thought - why would guests prancing on Russian streets in other countries not allow themselves this? It will not work out
  40. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 13 June 2012 20: 01
    +4
    The even became bad for me, from the opinion of the Russian population on this topic ... And I wanted to see the Moscow Kremlin and the Amber Room (just a dream from school) ... I think I should not appear there ...
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 13 June 2012 20: 10
      0
      Magician, never mind here from provocateurs not squeeze smile



      http://nstarikov.ru/blog/13477
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 13 June 2012 20: 48
        +5
        Provocateurs? All at the same time? It doesn’t seem like ... There’s some kind of large-scale bad luck - a bunch of bad guys from the Caucasus have managed to spoil the opinion of the whole Caucasus. And the most unpleasant thing is that senior management at all levels ignores this problem.

        Once a friend who first went to Stavropol to earn money says: "I put, they say, paving slabs (the second day of work), and a Russian granny walks by and pronounces offensive words clearly directed at me (there is no one around), and for the living will touch and the granny cannot be answered.

        The easiest way to bury your head in the sand, and there will be no problem.
        1. Oleg0705
          Oleg0705 13 June 2012 21: 00
          0
          Quote: DAGESTANETS333
          The easiest way to bury your head in the sand, and there will be no problem.


          everything will work out this is all mediocre hostile "rule" of Gorbachev-Yeltsin when in all the media every day a new nationality was artificially brought out, i.e. a person of Caucasian nationality is a strong virus, but he will be treated everything will be fine as in the USSR friendship of peoples
        2. 16
          16 14 June 2012 01: 08
          0
          but somehow a friend told ---------- they invite his wife to walk-dagi ------------- in the Ryazan region --------- !!!! !!!!!!!! and yet we are on our collective farm ------------ go to your village, to the mountains -----------
        3. A Smarter
          A Smarter 14 June 2012 13: 59
          0
          So they would educate their bunch of bad guys - how to behave as a guest should be.
    2. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 13 June 2012 20: 51
      0
      Leave the knife at home and come as a tourist.
      1. DAGESTAN333
        DAGESTAN333 13 June 2012 21: 45
        +3
        Leave a knife at home
        - I probably should laugh?
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 13 June 2012 23: 00
          0
          Definitely!
  41. black cat
    black cat 13 June 2012 20: 13
    -1
    Quote: Oleg0705
    where do you come from? like they find you in cabbage

    And where do you come from, Oleg0705?
    You, even if they are found in cabbage, are unlikely to be picked up, they will leave a hedgehog for dinner.

    DAGESTAN333
    The even became bad for me, from the opinion of the Russian population on this topic ... And I wanted to see the Moscow Kremlin and the Amber Room (just a dream from school) ... I think I should not appear there ...

    For God's sake, watch anything. I think no one is against it.
    Just live happily in Dagestan with your family after you see Moscow. However, if you marry a Russian and bring up children in the Russian tradition, welcome to the Russian regions forever. fellow
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 13 June 2012 20: 28
      0
      Quote: gatto nero
      You, even if they are found in cabbage, are unlikely to be picked up, they will leave a hedgehog for dinner.


      see caught another foundling, yeah a lot of them here request
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 13 June 2012 23: 25
      +2
      What are Russian traditions ??
    3. 16
      16 14 June 2012 01: 10
      +1
      I agree------------------------------
  42. igor67
    igor67 13 June 2012 22: 05
    +2
    Named the main reason for Putin's visit to Israel

    The Netanya City Hall and the Israeli Foreign Ministry have begun emergency preparations for a visit to the country of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    It is reported that during his visit Putin will visit Netanya and will attend the grand opening of the Red Army Victory Memorial over Nazi Germany in the city.


    It is noted that this is the first monument of its kind beyond the borders of the former Soviet Union. Putin personally asked to install it three years ago, and Netanyahu and Liberman responded to the request of the Russian president.
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 13 June 2012 22: 17
      0
      Quote: igor67
      Putin personally asked to install


      you could have established earlier without asking, thanks to the Red Army, you are.
      1. igor67
        igor67 13 June 2012 22: 21
        +5
        Oleg0705,
        actually in almost every city there is, and this is a big memorial, and without show-offs everywhere only ruin monuments
        1. Oleg0705
          Oleg0705 13 June 2012 22: 28
          +3
          Quote: igor67
          in fact, almost every city has


          didn't know sorry rowing back feel
          1. igor67
            igor67 13 June 2012 22: 54
            +4
            Oleg0705,
            problem bases
  43. 16
    16 14 June 2012 01: 05
    0
    we need a clear policy ------- Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians ----- for RUSSIA ----- state-forming nations !!!!!!!!!! primarily for them ------- ------ The simplified procedure for the adoption of citizenship !!!!!!!! The Caucasus loves and respects power !!!!!!!! Otherwise, Russians in Russia will die out in 20-30 years !!!!!!!!! ! And about the condopoga and others of this kind ------------ there are thousands of such cases ------- they simply do not advertise !!!!!!!!!!!
    1. A Smarter
      A Smarter 14 June 2012 14: 03
      0
      There is a rational grain in this comment. If you want citizenship - serve in the army or in the civil service, show your usefulness and you are already a citizen. No citizenship - do not participate in elections, do not do business - you are a useless person.
  44. Magadan
    Magadan 14 June 2012 14: 20
    +3
    Quote: malera
    Why in Russia it is impossible for a Russian to defend his national interests.

    And someone does not defend them? Thugs appear, then we are right and defend. And what are my rights that the same Tajik who repairs the house next to me violates?
    Quote: malera
    Why don’t they listen to people who say that they are tired of the influx of Kyrgyz, Tajiks, etc.

    And what about them, near-minded people to listen to? How does this inflow not suit them? You have facts that there are more crimes from Tajiks / Uzbeks than from Russians. Or maybe all Central Asian criminals?
    Quote: malera
    Why does an Italian engineer fix problems with visas for coming to Russia, and an Azerbaijani can wipe his persimmon on the market without any visas.

    And why the Italian, whose ancestors did not defend our homeland from Hitler, should have equal rights with Azerbaijanis. whose ancestors beat the Nazis near Moscow and Stalingrad?
    Why should the same Armenians who, including the Far East, mastered with us, should not have privileges over other, non-Soviet peoples? We here take offense at whole nations that they “don't remember good”, but do we ourselves remember?
    Quote: malera
    The Caucasian people are not capable of assimilation. And so they will always be a splinter in the body of Russia.

    Yes, a pittance for those peoples who "assimilate", forgetting their traditions, culture and ancestors. I do not want peoples to assimilate. The Lord created us different and unique, and the majority of normal people understand this and respect the RIGHT OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE TO "ALTERNATE". Only NATO members do not understand this, they generally carry their assimilation with the help of bombs.
    Caucasians are a "splinter" ?! For me personally, my Caucasian friends, and there were many of them, have always been more an example of respect for elders, responsibility "for the market", friendship and reliability. It's time for us to adopt their family values, since we have already lost ours, so it's good that there are such examples before our eyes.
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 14 June 2012 17: 23
      -1
      Magadan Today, 14: 20

      Well said!!! At VM 2012, who won the goals of Russia?

      With respect!! Oleg
  45. malera
    malera 14 June 2012 18: 07
    0
    Quote: Magadan
    And someone does not defend them? Thugs appear, then we are right and defend. And what are my rights that the same Tajik who repairs the house next to me violates?

    Well, the position is clear. Until the scumbag rape your relative, you will not scratch yourself before that. Takzhik, if he works legally, he takes away the opportunity to work from a Russian who could work in his place.
    Quote: Magadan
    And what about them, near-minded people to listen to? How does this inflow not suit them? You have facts that there are more crimes from Tajiks / Uzbeks than from Russians. Or maybe all Central Asian criminals?

    August 5 this year The collegium of the Investigative Department of the Investigative Committee of the Prosecutor's Office in the Moscow Region noted that in the first half of 2010 the number of crimes committed by foreign citizens increased by 4,7%, and their share of the number of recorded crimes from 9,9% to 10,6%. Thus, every 10th crime in the region was committed by foreigners, including illegal migrants.

    Moreover, of the 387 murders registered in the Moscow Region in the 1st half of the year, 59 were killed by foreign citizens, 80 out of 26 domestic killings, and 88 out of 32 rapes.

    In the 1st half of 2010, the Investigative Department completed 140 criminal cases against foreign citizens who committed crimes, which is 1,4% more than in the same period last year. In these cases, 148 foreign citizens were involved as defendants, which is 4,2% more than in the first half of 2009. Is it worth noting that the majority (78) of them were located on the territory of the Russian Federation illegally.

    In all completed cases against foreign citizens in the 1st half of 2010, submissions were made to the internal affairs bodies and territorial departments of the FMS of Russia, according to the results of their consideration, 90 employees of the internal affairs bodies were held accountable, UPC in the Moscow Region reports. It is only doubtful that this will take even the slightest result.

    The Ministry of the Interior (which, incidentally, the FMS must obey) is aware of what is happening. As the Department of Criminal Investigation of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation informs in detail, “the fight against crime related to foreign citizens does not lose its relevance. In the past period, foreigners committed more than 28 thousand crimes. The greatest criminal activity is shown by citizens of the CIS member states, which committed 91% of crimes out of the total number of crimes committed by foreigners. ”

    Quote: Oleg0705
    And why the Italian, whose ancestors did not defend our homeland from Hitler, should have equal rights with Azerbaijanis. whose ancestors beat the Nazis near Moscow and Stalingrad?
    Why should the same Armenians who, including the Far East, mastered with us, should not have privileges over other, non-Soviet peoples? We here take offense at whole nations that they “don't remember good”, but do we ourselves remember?

    Well, why not give a visa-free regime to the Swedes, who, led by Rurik, made a significant contribution to the formation of the Russian state.
    Quote: Oleg0705
    Yes, a pittance for those peoples who "assimilate", forgetting their traditions, culture and ancestors. I do not want peoples to assimilate. The Lord created us different and unique, and the majority of normal people understand this and respect the RIGHT OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE TO "ALTERNATE". Only NATO members do not understand this, they generally carry their assimilation with the help of bombs.
    Caucasians are a "splinter" ?! For me personally, my Caucasian friends, and there were many of them, have always been more an example of respect for elders, responsibility "for the market", friendship and reliability. It's time for us to adopt their family values, since we have already lost ours, so it's good that there are such examples before our eyes.

    Well, I rarely met a more boorish attitude towards the peoples of the Volga region, the Urals, and the Northwest region of Russia. The Russian nation was formed from the peoples of Miracles, Meria, and many other assimilated in Vyatichi and Krivechev, Polyan and Sloven.
    About the Caucasus. Georgia and Azerbaijan separated, thank God, the mare is easier. None of the Russians shed tears about this, have not seen.
  46. svetlana4821
    svetlana4821 15 June 2012 03: 14
    0
    I'm just shocked! I just entered my data (name, surname and date of birth) here [http://tinyurl.com/sngsearch] and my occupation, hobbies, place of residence, contacts knocked me out. I thought it was just a coincidence, but then I checked on my friends, the same garbage !!! How is this possible?
  47. urchik
    urchik 27 August 2012 20: 26
    0
    http://samlib.ru/p/podymalow_a_w/sbornik20.shtml