Improving the air defense system of the People's Republic of China against the background of strategic rivalry with the United States (part 2)

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In the 90 of the last century, the leadership of the People's Republic of China set a course for a radical modernization of the armed forces. First of all, this affected the Air Defense Forces and the Air Force, which along with the strategic forces of nuclear deterrence play the greatest role in ensuring the defense capability of the state and most fully reflect the level of development of scientific, technical, and production and technological potential.

After the normalization of relations between our countries, China became the largest purchaser of Russian combat aircraft and long-range anti-aircraft systems. But in order to effectively control the actions of fighters and anti-aircraft missile systems, not only modern ground-based radars were required, coupled with automated command and control and information exchange points, but also flying radars combining the functions of air command centers - long-range radar detection and control aircraft.



In the Soviet Union DRLO airplanes based on the Tu-114 airliner appeared as far back as the 60s. But in China, an attempt to create a “flying radar” based on a Tu-4 long-range bomber ended in failure, and there were no PLA aircraft in this class before the beginning of the 21 century. At the end of the 80-x in the USSR, an export modification of the AWACS-A-50E aircraft was created specifically for foreign customers, with a simplified radio-technical complex and without ZAS equipment. However, Chinese specialists, having familiarized themselves with the radio engineering complex of this machine, built on not the newest element base, considered that it would be more rational to use the Il-76TD basic platform, combining it with more modern Israeli-made equipment. After quite a long consultation, in 1997, a tripartite contract was signed for the creation of an aviation early warning complex, which received the preliminary designation A-50I. The contractors were the Israeli firm Elta and the Russian TANTK them. Gm Beriev. The Russian side pledged to prepare a Serial A-50 for re-equipment, while the Israelis were to install EL / M-205 PHALCON radar, a data processing complex and communications equipment on it.

Unlike the Soviet Aircraft AH-50, the Israeli EL / M-205 radar antenna was to be placed in a fixed disk-shaped fairing with a diameter of 11,5 m (more than the A-50), with three AFAR forming an equilateral triangle. According to the manufacturer’s specifications, the Israeli radar of the decimeter range (1,2-1,4 GHz), in combination with high-performance computing facilities and special noise reduction devices, should have made it possible to detect “difficult” low-altitude air targets: cruise missiles and airplanes developed using small radar technology visibility. In addition, the Chinese DRLO aircraft were supposed to be equipped with modern electronic reconnaissance equipment, which made it possible to monitor land and shipborne radars and listen to radio communications. The cost of one IL-76TD aircraft with an Israeli RTC was $ 250 million. In total, the PLA Air Force intended to order four DRLO and U aircraft.

The practical implementation of the joint contract began in 1999, when A-50 from the Russian Air Force with the board number "44", after dismantling the Soviet radio-technical complex and overhaul, flew to Israel. According to the schedule, the first DRLO aircraft with an Israeli radar, an electronic reconnaissance station and communications equipment had to be transferred to the Chinese side at the end of 2000. But already during the implementation of the program, the Americans intervened, and already with the high technical readiness of the complex in the summer of 2000, the Israeli side announced a unilateral withdrawal from the project. That, in addition to sensitive financial losses, had a negative effect on Israel’s reputation as a reliable supplier of weapons, and the aircraft already ready for refit was returned to China.

After the refusal of Israel to jointly create on the basis of Il-76TD DRLO planes, the Chinese specialists continued the project independently. Apparently, some materials on the Israeli radar got into the PRC, as the Chinese radar complex of the aircraft, called KJ-2000 (“Kun Jing” - “Sky of Eyes”), largely repeated the version proposed by Israeli designers. As planned, the aircraft received a radar with AFAR in a non-rotating disc-shaped fairing.

Improving the air defense system of the People's Republic of China against the background of strategic rivalry with the United States (part 2)

The radome of the radar antenna of the Chinese DRLO KJ-2000 aircraft


Inside the fairing there are three antenna modules. Each module allows you to view the space in the sector 120 °. Thanks to electronic beam scanning, the radar is able to perform all-round visibility. Radar radiating elements are cooled by an oncoming flow of air through special channels.

According to the information sounded by the Chinese media, the radar created in Nanjing Research Institute No. 14 is capable of detecting targets at a distance of more than 400 km and simultaneously accompanying air and surface objects to 100. It is reported that the DRLO aircraft can also be used to record ballistic missile launches and calculate their flight paths. Thus, during the tests, it was possible to timely detect a ballistic missile launched at a distance of 1200 km.


KJ-2000


As in the Russian A-50, the Chinese KJ-2000 has a satellite communications antenna in the upper, front part of the fuselage behind the cockpit. There is no reliable information about the interaction capabilities of the communications equipment of the Chinese DRLO aircraft based on Il-76MD with ground-based air defense systems and interceptors, but Chinese sources state that one KJ-2000 is able to control the actions of several dozen combat aircraft. Operators' workplaces are equipped with color liquid-crystal displays, and the construction of trails for air targets occurs in automatic mode and using high-performance computing tools. The patrol working height is 5000 - 10000 m. Maximum range 5000 km. At a distance of 2000 km from its airfield, the aircraft can remain on patrol for 1 hours 25 minutes. The maximum flight duration is no more than 8 hours. In contrast to the Soviet A-50, the KJ-2000 initially did not provide for an in-flight refueling system, which, with a sufficiently high specific fuel consumption, significantly limits the patrol time.

In total, for the PLA Air Force, 4 heavy DRLO and U aircraft were built on the IL-76TD platform. In the past, they often participated in large-scale exercises, and were permanently based in the eastern province of Zhejiang near the Taiwan Strait. At the moment, the available KJ-2000 has already been withdrawn from the PLA Air Force combat deployment.


Satellite image of Google Air: DRLO KJ-2000 aircraft in the memorial complex of the factory airfield Xian

Judging from satellite images of the factory airfield Xi'an, in the province of Shenxi, specializing among other things in testing, fine-tuning and repairing airplanes of AEW, one KJ-2000 is installed at the "perpetual station" along with other aircraft models, which were built at different times at the enterprises of Xi'an aviation industrial corporation. Radar equipment was dismantled from the remaining three DRLO airplanes, built on the basis of IL-76TD, and these vehicles can be used as transport and flying laboratories.

Back in 2013, the media leaked information that work on a new heavy DRLO aircraft based on a new heavy military transport aircraft Y-20 was under way in the PRC. This car is often compared to the American Boeing C-17 Globemaster III. Perspective aircraft AWACS and U on the platform Y-20 received the designation KJ-3000.

How far this program has progressed is unknown. To hide such a large aircraft with radome fairing from space reconnaissance means is unrealistic, and apparently its testing has not yet begun. At the same time, more than a dozen Y-20 transports have already accumulated at the factory airfield of Xi'an, and some of them may well be used to create new DRLO aircraft.


Satellite image of Google Earth: aviation Xi'an factory airfield parking


Simultaneously with the development of the “heavy” KJ-2000 radar patrol aircraft on the Il-76TD platform in the PRC, work was carried out on the “medium” DRLO aircraft based on the four-engine turboprop medium military transport aircraft (an upgraded Chinese version of the An-12). Unlike the USSR, where the An-12 serial construction was completed in 70-s, in China, the release of modernized versions of this very successful machine continues to this day. Chinese engineers have developed modern versions with an extended cargo compartment and economical engines that fully meet modern requirements, and in terms of fuel efficiency, they significantly surpass transport aircraft with turbojet engines.


Prototype aircraft DRLO KJ-200


The prototype of the AWED turboprop aircraft, designated KJ-200, first flew on November 8 2001. The radar antenna with AFAR has a "log-like" shape, resembling the enlarged antenna of the Swedish radar of the Ericsson PS-890 radar. In front of the radome radar is an air intake for cooling the radiating elements of the incident air flow.

The first built aircraft AWACS on the basis of the Y-8-200 was actually a "flying laboratory" designed to test the radar complex, and was not equipped with all the necessary set of communication and information display facilities. Serial KJ-200s were to be built on the basis of the more advanced military transport modification Y-8F-600. This model was equipped with more powerful and economical Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150B engines with 6-blade propellers, a "glass" cockpit and additional fuel tanks.

In 2005, tests of the second pre-production specimen began. The process of fine-tuning the radar and communications equipment of the aircraft went at a very high rate until 3 June 2006, the prototype crashed, crashing into a mountain near the village of Yao in Anhui province. In the crash killed high-ranking PLA Air Force officers and prominent designers. This disaster, which took the lives of 40 people, became the largest in the number of victims in the newest stories The PLA Air Force seriously braked the tests of the KJ-200 aircraft. According to the official version, published after the decoding of “black boxes”, the imperfection of the anti-icing system was the cause of the loss of controllability of the aircraft. On the following production aircraft KJ-200, in addition to the changes made to the anti-icing equipment, the tail area was increased.


DRLO KJ-200 production aircraft


The official adoption of the KJ-200 took place in 2009 year, after the construction of four DRLO aircraft. A KJ-200 aircraft with a maximum take-off weight of about 65 t when refueling 25 t of aviation fuel can be in the air for 10 hours and cover the distance 5000 km. The maximum airspeed is 620 km / h, the patrol speed is 500 km / h, the ceiling is 10200 m. The crew consists of 4 people of the crew, another 6 people are engaged in servicing the radio complex.

Compared to DRLO airplanes based on Saab 340 and Saab 2000, which also feature a log-like antenna radar, the Y-8F-600 glider provides large areas for installing radio-electronic equipment, operator consoles and personnel recreation areas. According to information published in Chinese sources, the radar installed on KJ-200 is capable of detecting air targets at a distance of more than 300 km. Data on the air situation, after processing over the air, is transmitted to consumers in the person of the air defense command post and fighter aviation control points. It is believed that one KJ-200 is capable of simultaneously directing targets up to 15 interceptors.


Satellite image of Google Environment: DRLO KJ-200 and KJ-2000 airplanes parked at the air base near Beijing, the picture was taken in 2009

At the major exercises of the air defense forces, which took place in August 2009 in the north-east of China, the KJ-200 and KJ-2000 aircraft were tested for their ability to control the actions of combat aircraft and anti-aircraft missile systems. The exercises revealed both the strengths and weaknesses of the “airborne radar posts” at that time in the PLA Air Force. Quite predictably, the KJ-2000 with a more powerful radar and able to patrol at a higher altitude detected high-altitude aerial targets at a range of about 30% more than the radio-technical complex of the turboprop KJ-200. At the same time, the "tactical" aircraft AWACS KJ-200 was better suited for conducting routine patrol flights. Its more efficient engines allowed it to hang longer in the air, and it turned out to be much cheaper to operate and took less time to prepare for re-departure. One of the main drawbacks of KJ-200, according to experts, is the limited number of communication channels that exchange information with ground command posts and interceptors that are in the air. In addition, the design features of the "log-like" antenna with AFAR is the presence of "dead" zones. Since the radar viewing angle on each side is 150 °, there are not viewed areas in the nose and tail parts of the aircraft. This forces you to constantly fly "oval" or "eight". But with a sharp change in the course by an AEW aircraft, or active maneuvering of the target in the horizontal plane, there is a possibility that the tracking will be disrupted. Taking into account the antenna radiation patterns, it is optimal to use two KJ-200 airplanes at the same time, which duplicate each other when making turns.

Despite these shortcomings, the PLA Air Force Command ordered an additional batch of DRLO KJ-200 aircraft, currently 10 vehicles of this type are in service. According to the US military, KJ-200 is actively involved in patrol flights in the northeast of China and over the disputed islands. In February, the X-NUMX pilots of the American base patrol aircraft P-2017 Orion announced a dangerous approach to the KJ-3 over the South China Sea.

Over the years that have passed since the introduction of the KJ-200 DRLO aircraft, the Chinese military have managed to appreciate all the advantages and features of this car. The accumulated operating experience allowed us to form an understanding of what should be the modern aircraft of the radar patrol and control "tactical level", and proceed to the creation of more advanced machines of this class. According to the views of the PLA Air Force Command, the DRLO aircraft created on the platform of an average turboprop military transport aircraft, with moderate operating costs, should be able to operate for a long time at a considerable distance from its base. In this case, it is imperative to equip it with a circular radar, a system for refueling in the air and a wide range of electronic reconnaissance and jamming.

All these requirements were taken into account when creating the DRLO KJ-500 aircraft presented to the general public in 2014. Like the KJ-200, the “tactical” KJ-500 is built on the basis of the military transport Y-8F-600. The main external differences are the circular radar plate, the presence of an aerodynamic ridge in the tail section to compensate for the loss of ground stability and flat antennas of a radio intelligence station.


DRLO KJ-500 aircraft


In fact, when creating the KJ-500, the most successful solutions were used, which were previously tested on the KJ-2000 and KJ-200 aircraft, and also took into account the shortcomings of these machines. From the KJ-2000 borrowed the principle of the location of the radar antenna, and the operation of the KJ-200 allowed to work out the most optimal layout of the "average" DRLO aircraft and tactics of use.

The creation and launching into mass production of a radio-technical complex, the basis of which is a three-dimensional radar with an AFAR, providing electronic scanning in height and azimuth, is considered a great success in the PRC. At the same time, the viewing sector of each of the three flat antenna arrays, joined in the form of an isosceles triangle, is at least 140 °. Thus, they mutually overlap adjacent sectors and provide a circular view.

It must be said that the Chinese experts considered a variant with a classic rotating radar antenna located in a plate-shaped radome. The DRLO aircraft of such a layout was successfully tested and serially built for Pakistan under the designation ZDK-03 Karakorum.


DRLO ZDK-03 Karakorum aircraft


Currently, KJ-500 is being mass produced at a plant in Chendu, Shanxi Province. Judging by satellite imagery, the pace of construction of KJ-500 aircraft is very high. At the moment, more than 10 machines have been delivered to the customer.


Satellite image Google Air: parking the factory airfield in Chendu


The real characteristics of the KJ-500 are unknown, but it can be assumed that its flight data is at the level of KJ-200. According to information provided by Global Security, the detection range of the radar with AFAR can reach 500 km, and the number of simultaneously accompanied targets compared to KJ-200 increased three times. The miniaturization of the radio element base and the success of Chinese developers in the field of creating compact high-performance computing systems made it possible to equip the KJ-500 with highly sophisticated on-board equipment. A number of western experts write that in terms of range, noise immunity and number of communication channels, the KJ-500 may be close to, or even surpass, the latest E-2 Hawkeye American carrier-based aircraft. But at the same time, the Chinese aircraft is much larger and heavier than the “Improved Hockey,” which allows it to carry additional radio intelligence stations and be on duty longer.

Although the PRC is developing a heavy “strategic” KJ-3000 aircraft, the Chinese military have relied on the “tactical” KJ-500, created on a relatively inexpensive Y-8F-600 platform with economical turboprop engines. Such an approach makes it possible to quickly feed troops with DRLO airplanes, push aside the lines of detection of air targets and increase the effectiveness of control of air defense forces. Already, in terms of the number of operational radar detection and control aircraft, China surpasses our country. According to open sources, in 2018, the structure of the VKS RF had 5 upgraded А-50У and 14 А-50, built during the Soviet era. It should be understood that most of the old А-50 is close to developing a resource, now it is a “real estate” and will not be modernized. In addition, critics of the A-50U program note that when creating an updated radio-technical complex, the share of foreign-made components was unacceptably high. That in the conditions of the introduction of the sanctions regime against our country can greatly slow down the process of modernization.

At the moment, in the PLA Air Force, the strength of the KJ-200 and KJ-500 is approaching two dozen, and the combat readiness of these aircraft is very high. Given the pace of construction of aircraft KJ-500, it can be assumed that in 5 years their number will double. At the same time, the number of “heavy” KJ-3000 on the Y-20 heavy transporter platform is unlikely to exceed 5 units. It is obvious that the Chinese military leadership, having sufficient financial resources, still showed pragmatism and did not rely on unique in its characteristics, but extremely expensive heavy DRLO and U aircraft (the Soviet A-50 cost about 2 times more expensive than a strategic bomber Tu-160), and for cheaper and more massive "medium" airborne systems of the radar patrol and control.

After Israel’s refusal to cooperate in the creation of a joint radio-technical complex for the A-50I aircraft, the PRC leadership set before the developers the task of localizing the production of all components of electronic equipment for DRLO aircraft in the PRC. In 2014, it was stated that this task was completed. On new Chinese DRLO planes computers and software developed and manufactured in China are used in computing systems. For unification and simplification of interaction on different types of aircraft, common communication and information systems are used. This approach allows you to get rid of foreign dependence, reduce the cost of production, facilitate maintenance and improve information security.

At the beginning of 2017, not very high-quality photos of the Chinese carrier-based aircraft DRLO KJ-600 appeared on the network, on the basis of which its appearance was reconstructed.


The estimated appearance of the deck aircraft AWAC KJ-600


Earlier in China, a flying laboratory JZY-01 was observed on the basis of the Y-7 transport (a copy of the An-26). This "flying stand" was intended for the development of the radio engineering complex and constructive solutions, which were planned to be used in the future to create the DRLO carrier-based aircraft. A total of two prototypes were built. If the first prototype except the radar antenna had no visible differences from the Y-7 aircraft, then on the second experimental machine, the tail plumage in its configuration resembles the American “Hokai”. At the moment, this aircraft is parked at the factory airfield Xian.


Satellite image GoGle Air: experimental aircraft ARLO JZY-01 at the factory airfield Xi'an

It is not known how far Chinese designers have advanced in creating the deck aircraft of the radar patrol, but on the "deck" of a concrete copy of an aircraft carrier in the vicinity of the city of Wuhan, a model of such a machine has already appeared.


Satellite image GoGle Air: a concrete copy of an aircraft carrier in the vicinity of the city of Wuhan

According to the data sounded in the People's Republic of China, the maximum take-off weight of the KJ-600 aircraft will not exceed 25 t. Its maximum speed can reach 700 km / h, and the speed during patrolling is 350-400 km / h. The practical flight range of the KJ-600 is about 2500 km, which will make it possible to conduct combat duty at a distance of 500 km from the take-off point for approximately 2-2,5 hours. It is not known when the KJ-600 DRLO aircraft actually enters the combat squadron, but in the West it is believed that this machine will be able to be based not only on Chinese aircraft carriers, but can also be adopted by the PLA Air Force. The aircraft of the radar patrol with a shortened take-off and landing is capable of operating from field airfields in the interests of tactical aviation and front-line air defense.

At the moment, the duties of the "airborne radar picket" on the Chinese aircraft carrier "Liaoning" are assigned to the AEW helicopters Z-18J. The Z-18 helicopter is an option for further development of the Z-8, which in turn is a licensed copy of the SA 321 Super Frelon heavy transport helicopter. The antenna of the radar is located in the zone of the folding tail frame and is lowered to the working position when the vehicle is in the air. The detection range of air targets is 250-270 km.


The radar patrol helicopter Z-18J


Another area being developed in the PRC is the creation of heavy drones AWACS. In 2012, a Xianglong (Soaring Dragon) UAV took off in Chengdu. Although in China this drone is compared with the American RQ-4 Global Hawk, the Soaring Dragon is inferior to the American heavy UAV in terms of range and flight duration.


Xianglong UAV Prototype


The Xianglong UAV is equipped with a wing of the original shape that combines the closed wing of a regular and reverse sweep. The wing consists of two planes located one above the other and interconnected by curved rings. This form of the wing has a large lifting force and can significantly reduce fuel consumption and increase the duration of the flight. With a take-off weight of about 7500 kg, the Chinese unit is able to rise to a height of 18300 meters and cover a distance of more than 7000 km. Maximum speed 750 km / h. It is reported that the main element of the payload will be radar with active phased arrays of the conformal type. In addition, an unmanned aerial vehicle can be used to relay information from land, ship and airborne radars.

In 2015, information appeared on the network that Divine Eagle ("Divine Eagle") tests began in Shenyang. Compared to the Soaring Dragon, this is a much larger and heavier machine. The prototype had a twin hull with one turbojet engine in the middle and two keels.


Prototype UAV Divine Eagle


This scheme was chosen to increase the load capacity. In the Chinese media they write that on the external surfaces of the “Divine Eagle” there are 7 antennas AFAR. Transmission of radar information should occur in real time through radio relay and satellite communication channels.


Satellite image GoGle Air: a prototype of the Divine Eagle UAV at the Shenyang factory airfield. The actual size of the drone can be judged by the fighter J-7 and J-8 standing nearby

Based on the available pictures, the length of the UAV can be from 14 to 17 m, and the wingspan is 40-45 m. The maximum airspeed is about 800 km / h, the ceiling is 25 km. Take-off weight - 15-18 t. Currently, it is the largest Chinese UAV, its size can be judged by satellite imagery.


Satellite image of Google Air: heavy UAVs at Anshun airbase


It is not known what combat missions heavy Chinese UAVs are capable of performing at the moment. But apparently, the drones mentioned in this publication are already being mass-produced and in operation. The PLA Air Force unmanned squadron deployed at Anshun air base in Guizhou province. Here is the control center of the UAV with satellite communications transponders.

At the moment, China is very well advanced in the field of creating heavy unmanned aerial vehicles, and in this respect it occupies one of the leading positions in the world. Apparently, long-range radar patrol UAVs in the People's Republic of China plan to use it during long patrol flights over the ocean and where there is a big risk of losing a piloted DRLO aircraft. At the same time, in the event of a collision with a technologically advanced adversary, the uninterrupted transmission of broadband digital streams through highly sensitive high-frequency channels will be problematic, and the drone itself can be easily shot down by enemy fighters.

To be continued ...

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  1. +5
    25 January 2019 05: 39
    China demonstrates a pragmatic approach in the area of ​​DRLO airplanes, with an emphasis on relatively inexpensive aircraft with turboprop engines. They are certainly in some respects inferior to ours based on IL-76, but they are much cheaper.
    1. 0
      25 January 2019 07: 05
      Quote: zyablik.olga
      They are probably inferior in some respects to ours on the basis of IL-76

      And on what, besides patriotism, is conviction important?
      In your opinion, is one slot antenna with an area of ​​17m2 better than two AFAR of the same area?
      1. +8
        25 January 2019 07: 11
        Quote: Puncher
        And on what, besides patriotism, is conviction important?
        In your opinion, is one slot antenna with an area of ​​17m2 better than two AFAR of the same area?

        Olya is probably still right, and it's not about patriotism. Domestic A-50M and promising A-100 are superior to Chinese ARLO aircraft based on the Y-9 turboprop in terms of target detection, number of accompanied targets and communication channels. But the cost of our radar systems is much higher and they are more expensive to operate.
        1. +2
          25 January 2019 10: 49
          and make them a teaspoon a year ... hi
          1. +2
            26 January 2019 21: 15
            And there is no other plane.
        2. +3
          25 January 2019 15: 00
          Certainly a very competent approach. Use basically cheaper machines in operation, provided that the more advanced and expensive KJ-3000s can be concentrated in difficult directions during a difficult period.
          P.S. I had a question on the first part of this article, but I read it late. Therefore, I will write here, if possible)
          I was very surprised by the Chinese radar location map. The almost complete absence of radar stations on the border with India looks strange, all the more knowing their "friendship". Why is this so? Is it really impossible to use radars in the mountains at all, or their effectiveness is so low that they simply do not install?
          1. +4
            26 January 2019 04: 00
            Quote: DarkMatter
            I was very surprised by the Chinese radar location map. The almost complete absence of radar stations on the border with India looks strange, all the more knowing their "friendship". Why is this so? Is it really impossible to use radars in the mountains at all, or their effectiveness is so low that they simply do not install?

            Eugene, an excellent and very competent question! good
            Over the entire territory of China there is a permanent radar field. But the border with India is rather complicated and is controlled by mobile stations. In addition, you probably noticed that most stationary radar posts are located along the coast. The same applies to the stationary positions of the air defense system. This is not surprising, since it is along the coast, in areas with a comfortable climate for living, about 70% of industrial enterprises and a large part of the PRC population are concentrated.
  2. +8
    25 January 2019 06: 04
    Good morning, Sergey and Olga. Thank you for the work, and there’s nothing to read, this forum has recently become very impoverished in good articles, I’m glad that you are with us. Thank you.
  3. +2
    25 January 2019 06: 26
    But already during the implementation of the program, Americans intervened in the matter

    Because in relation to China, an arms embargo has been introduced
    adversely affected Israel's reputation as a reliable arms supplier

    No effect at all.
    1. +7
      25 January 2019 06: 54
      Quote: Puncher
      No effect at all.

      It seems to me, yet it affected.
      What major Chinese-Israeli projects have been implemented after Israel’s refusal to develop the joint A-50I program?
      1. +1
        25 January 2019 07: 09
        Quote: Bongo
        What major Chinese-Israeli projects have been implemented after Israel’s refusal to develop the joint A-50I program?

        Israel uses American elements in its products, therefore it cannot sell anything to China (officially). Yes, and the US opinion for Israel is very important, so the Chinese market for Israeli military products is closed.
        1. +7
          25 January 2019 07: 18
          Quote: Puncher
          Israel uses American elements in its products, therefore it cannot sell anything to China (officially). Yes, and the US opinion for Israel is very important, so the Chinese market for Israeli military products is closed.

          This is understandable, but you did not answer the question. request
          After all, Israel in the past has shared a lot with China. It is not only a matter of American prohibitions, but the Chinese leadership has become much more cautious when it comes to programs on which the security of the country depends. And the disruption of large arms contracts always harms reputation.
          1. +1
            25 January 2019 09: 43
            Moreover, some especially knowledgeable commentators claimed that when the sealed blocks were opened, the signal would reach “where necessary”, and all the equipment would be destroyed by the response command broadcast from a secret Russian satellite. However, it is not clear how the radio-frequency signals will be transmitted if the equipment is placed in a fully shielded building, or in the underground tunnel Sergey, is completely elementary. In the memoirs of V. Akkuratov, the navigator of long-range aviation, there is an episode when they were instructed to overtake the B-17 bomber that had crashed accidentally, the EMNIP near Poltava, where there was a base for American planes participating in shuttle raids on Germany. But closer to the body: when trying to turn on or open the secret block, a small explosion followed, which simply destroyed the equipment. Akkuratov himself, in this way, unknowingly, destroyed the radio compass and the radar sight.
            Quote: Bongo
            After all, Israel in the past has shared a lot with China. It is not only a matter of American prohibitions, but the Chinese leadership has become much more cautious when it comes to programs on which the security of the country depends. And the disruption of large arms contracts always harms reputation.
            Sergey, I'm sorry, missed the first part, so I am writing a comment in two parts at once. Until 2009, EMNIP published the magazines "Iron" and "Hacker". Now I don’t see something on sale either, but in one of the magazines, I remember this well, there was an article about Chinese economic zones and the production of components in these zones. The Americans imposed such restrictions on the production of CHIPs that, without the permission of the United States, no one had the right to use these elements in products for third countries. And one more thing, first with us, then the Americans themselves discovered bookmarks in Chinese products.
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            2. +3
              25 January 2019 12: 26
              Quote: Amurets
              Until 2009, EMNIP published the magazines "Iron" and "Hacker".

              So that was 10 years ago. The situation is changing.
              And at the end of 2018, the British magazine The Economist wrote:

              In the microchip sector, US industrial leadership faces China’s superpower ambitions.
              China is still dependent on the supply of high-tech chips from abroad and currently spends more on the import of semiconductors than on oil.
              In 2015, Barack Obama blocked a deal to sell Intel's innovative IC chips to China, and in 2016, he prevented the Chinese firm from absorbing a German semiconductor manufacturer.
              However, blocking the sale of Intel chips has only pushed China to develop its own industry of super power computers.
              There was also a ban on the sale of American chips and software of the Chinese telecommunications company ZTE and the scandal with their sale, bypassing the sanctions.
              Trump also blocked the merger of the company "Qualcomm" with the Singapore Corporation for fear of competition from China.
              Therefore, the Chinese technology giants Alibaba, Baidu and Huawei are investing huge amounts of money in chip design.

              The Economist experts are convinced: you need to prepare for the fact that more powerful Chinese chips will be used everywhere.

              Quote: Amurets
              first with us, then the Americans themselves found bookmarks in Chinese products.

              Here I agree, The Economist writes:
              This means, among other things, the need to develop proper procedures for testing Chinese products from the point of view of national security and stricter data processing standards in order to avoid careless dissemination of information.

              1. +2
                25 January 2019 13: 23
                Quote: Mister X
                The Economist experts are convinced: you need to prepare for the fact that more powerful Chinese chips will be used everywhere.

                Politics is politics, and business as business, and no matter how the Americans try, but cooperation with companies in Taiwan and the Republic of Korea, the United States can not do, and there are strong pro-Chinese positions, and therefore it is easier for China to circumvent US bans and withstand competition in the civilian market. And with the semiconductor industry, it's easier to move to higher technology levels
                1. +2
                  25 January 2019 13: 53
                  Quote: Amurets
                  And with the semiconductor industry, it’s easier to move to higher technological levels.

                  So by and large for the leading position in the US semiconductor market and unleashed a trade war against China.
                  After all, without electronics, there is no way: both the military and civilians.
                  Banking, Forex, healthcare, water supply, transport, fishing, etc.
                  Even toilets and scooters are already beginning to stuff electronics.
                  Well, do not want the Yankees to sit in a pot with built-in Chinese chips wink
                  1. +2
                    25 January 2019 14: 09
                    Quote: Mister X
                    So by and large for the leading position in the US semiconductor market and unleashed a trade war against China.

                    Yes, but at the beginning of the 2000s, Americans, and Europeans, stubbornly endured the production of components and the production of other products was transferred to Southeast Asia, because taxes and requirements for the emission of toxic substances were lower, labor is cheaper.
                    1. +3
                      25 January 2019 15: 42
                      Quote: Amurets
                      Americans and Europeans stubbornly endured the production of components and the production of other products were transferred to Southeast Asia

                      All right
                      Since then, China has become stronger in Western technologies and has become a threat.
                      And if you transfer production back - it means that products will significantly increase in price.
                      White will not work at the same rate as yellow.
                      Example: in Vietnam, a worker’s patch at the Nike plant is about $ 60 per month.
                      This salary above average. And so about around Asia.
                      Will a German or an American work for such money?
                      1. +1
                        13 February 2019 23: 58
                        In recent years, the standard of living in China has grown significantly, and salaries there are already at the level of Eastern Europe, or even higher! And high-class specialists everywhere get the same, except for the Russian Federation, probably, alas ...
            3. +3
              25 January 2019 13: 47
              Quote: Amurets
              Sergey, absolutely elementary. In the memoirs of V. Akkuratov, the navigator of long-range aviation, there is an episode when they were instructed to overtake the emergency landing bomber B-17, EMNIP under Poltava, where there was a base for American planes involved in shuttle raids on Germany. But closer to the body: when trying to turn on or open a secret unit, a small explosion followed, which simply destroyed the equipment.

              Nikolai, good evening!
              This method of "protection" is applicable in compact devices. Can you imagine the amount of explosives placed in the main units of the S-400 air defense system?
              And our "strategic partners" would hardly agree with this. There are no remotely controlled devices and self-destructive agents there.
              1. +1
                25 January 2019 13: 54
                Quote: Bongo
                And our "strategic partners" would hardly agree with this. There are no remotely controlled devices and self-destructive agents there.

                Sergey, so there the circuitry and components are completely different. Half of the equipment was missing.
            4. +3
              26 January 2019 01: 31
              And one more thing, first with us, then the Americans themselves discovered bookmarks in Chinese products.

              Yes, there are no bookmarks there, noise was needed to squeeze China out of the US market.
  4. +3
    25 January 2019 06: 57
    Sergey thanks for the article, very interesting + good
    1. +5
      25 January 2019 06: 59
      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      Sergey thanks for the article, very interesting +

      You are welcome! Glad you liked it! hi
      1. +4
        25 January 2019 07: 03
        Sergey, you have good articles on air defense, I read everything good
  5. +2
    25 January 2019 07: 01
    Sergey, will you make an article about Russian air defense? how do you see it, how many and what complexes are needed for which sections, how much do we need AWACS and reconnaissance aircraft
    1. +9
      25 January 2019 07: 06
      Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
      Sergey, will you make an article about the Russian air defense?

      Alexander, I have repeatedly written on this subject. In addition, after the publication of two parts devoted to the CSTO air defense, for reasons beyond my control, I was forced to abandon writing the third final part devoted directly to the air defense of the Russian Federation. There were also some difficulties after the publication of a dedicated history and the current state of the Far Eastern 11-th OA air defense system. I still have children to grow and do not need extra problems. As in our country, the situation with freedom of speech you probably know.
      1. +3
        25 January 2019 07: 09
        Well, I wrote, how would I like to see the Russian air defense, or can they be punished for it? what
        1. +7
          25 January 2019 07: 13
          Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
          Well, I wrote, how would I like to see the Russian air defense, or can they be punished for it?

          And what is the use of writing unfounded, without facts and figures? Analytics published even on the basis of "open sources" are not always perceived adequately.
          1. +4
            25 January 2019 07: 21
            Sergey, according to your previous articles on anti-aircraft defense with facts and figures, you can write and without so to speak about facts and figures, if you write in a personal
            1. +6
              25 January 2019 07: 40
              Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
              you can write and without so to speak about facts and figures, if you write in a personal

              And without facts, here the patriots will blow in three pipes, and they will call bad names.
              1. +2
                25 January 2019 08: 17
                I am also a Patriot and Sergey writes very good articles
                1. +5
                  25 January 2019 08: 22
                  Quote: Alexander Galaktionov
                  I am also a Patriot and Sergey writes very good articles

                  I mean hurray-patriots, who for some reason believe that just a little, we will throw all our hats and throw vigorous rockets at the adversary. And about the articles I agree, there’s nothing to complain about.
                  1. +4
                    25 January 2019 08: 23
                    We will throw our hats)) we must be objective
  6. +3
    25 January 2019 09: 50
    Sorry for the unrealized items. Waiting for them, but it is not fate that is visible. Many thanks for the previous, very informatively interesting and high-quality written.
  7. +3
    25 January 2019 10: 47
    The author, as always, pleased good
  8. +4
    25 January 2019 11: 38
    Thanks for the article and special thanks for working with Google Airf! There are few new interesting articles, from boredom I began to read the archive of articles ...
    hi
  9. +2
    25 January 2019 15: 29
    Sergei hi as always on top. I am not an expert in air defense feel, I'm just interested in this for general development, so thank you so much for your work. This aspect is interesting, but do the Chinese brothers conduct any developments regarding the linking of all their radar systems into one information field? I would be grateful if you share the information drinks
    1. +3
      26 January 2019 04: 03
      Quote: Korax71
      This aspect is interesting, but do the Chinese brothers lead any development in linking all their radar systems into one information field? I would appreciate if you share information

      Alexander, such a linkage was carried out back in the 20th century, since without it effective control of the air defense system is impossible. But there are no details on this topic in "open sources". request
  10. exo
    +2
    25 January 2019 16: 35
    Icing of the stabilizer is a sore spot of the An-12, and indeed, these are schemes on Antonov’s planes. Plus, from the placement of the complex on this platform, the range. But, here is the increased vibration in the area of ​​the screws, and as a result, fatigue of operators, this is a minus. Not very good, dependence on foreign engines and propellers.
    1. +3
      25 January 2019 19: 28
      Quote: exo
      Not very good dependence on foreign engines and propellers.

      The Chinese people are cunning.
      They could easily buy several repair kits, and maybe even additional engines and screws.
      Or in a roundabout way to buy the necessary as needed.
      Or maybe they will start their own production: after all, they are fake masters.
      One way or another - the issue will be resolved.
      1. +1
        26 January 2019 02: 35
        Quote: Mister X
        Or maybe they will start their own production: after all, they are fake masters.
        One way or another - the issue will be resolved.
        Industrial espionage has not been canceled, and the level of copying determines not only the level of technological equipment of enterprises, but also the level of education in the country. At the beginning of the twentieth century, Japan and China started on approximately equal terms, with the copying of small arms, then Japan was "lucky" because of Port Arthur. Russia, through the Russian-Chinese Bank, having occupied Port Arthur, began to pay compensation for it, for which Japan immediately ordered ships in England. But also, the fact is that for a number of reasons, RI began to repair ships in the ports of Japan, which allowed the Japanese to study the strengths and weaknesses of foreign shipbuilding. And then, after the Russian-Japanese one, organize shipbuilding at home, copying the best solutions not only from English but also from world shipbuilding. It was with this that industrial espionage began in Japan, which by the 30s had become a real scourge for European industry. Therefore, China also took the path, only 50 years later. Well, the rest can be understood from the experience of the USSR by analyzing the development of industry in the USSR at the IVS
        RUSSIAN-CHINESE BANK
        was created in con. 1895 to promote the development of economical Russian ties with China (especially in connection with the construction of the Siberian Railway) and the strengthening of Rus. political influences as opposed to English. Established in the form of acc. enterprises on the initiative of imperial pr-va group of French. banks and rus. Int. commercial the bank. Opened action in Jan. 1896. https://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/sie/15137/
  11. +2
    26 January 2019 12: 06
    Many thanks to the author!
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    3 February 2019 19: 50
    The Indians will drive the sons of Israel to the campaign for the sons of Israel
    India intends to increase its fleet of IL-76 long-range radar detection aircraft equipped with Israeli electronics from three to five aircraft. On Friday, February 1, a military diplomatic source told Interfax.

    "It is expected that in the near future from Israel to" Rosoboronexport "may receive a request for the supply of two Il-76 aircraft for the Indian Air Force, on the basis of which AWACS aircraft will be created in Israel after the installation of appropriate special equipment," the source said.

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