Fascist fans turned to Putin for protection

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Strange county hail Rossosh in any weather. Strange thoughts and deeds of its governors and residents. Also in any weather.





But once such funny movements began, we will be transferred back by my will again, to the very south of the Voronezh region, to the city, where the Italian fascists adore and idolize.

You know, even here a thought sometimes creeps in: maybe the topic should be dropped? Well, like Rossoshansky cringe before the descendants of the Italian fascists, well, let them crawl on! We have the same kind of democracy and freedom of choice.

But in Rossosh everything is quit, and everyone is happy.

That's just for some reason the provincials lie, so that you understand - something is unclean here. Unclean, apparently, the conscience of the gentlemen of district administrators, oh, how unclean. Because they lie without ceasing. And they turn the disc, well, it's just a pleasure to listen, but the tune is so hackneyed that it reduces teeth.

We shot the video here, but published it much earlier than the article. It is good, half of the Rossoshan administration was noted. Those, apparently, who before this letter dashed out to Putin. With a request to protect the monument to the unknown fascist.

Yes, yes, humor is not humor, satire is not satire, but there is such! A letter has been written to the name of Russian President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin himself! With a tearful request to protect the poor Rossosh citizens, who simply want to be friends with the Italians, from the evil Nikolai Savchenko and his powerful patrons in the face of some media.

Oh how.

A letter to the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin from the public of Rossoshansky district.

But even in a letter to the president, yes, the president of Russia himself, the people who signed him ... lie!

This is what you will be doing, apparently, such a breed. But in order not to be unsubstantiated - a quote, a link to the Rossosh administration page, all the rank-order.

“The target of provocateurs was the Memorial sign of friendship between Russians and Italians, installed in 2003 year in the park to them. Kirov. For ten years he stood quietly, without disturbing anyone. But in 2013, as if by someone else’s team, the antagonists began to aggressively spread the “duck” about the supposedly existing “monument to the invaders”, the “museum of alpine shooters”, the “grave of an unknown fascist” held in the militarist parades ”.


Do not be ashamed to lie to the president, the Russian public? Not?

The most important thing is that the cursed Savchenko can put a paper on each word. And I myself saw requests, letters, answers. In 2003, a monument to an unknown fascist was erected, with 2004, a struggle began.

"Allegedly existing museum of Alpine shooters." Well, yes, now he is feverishly working on its alteration, so that by the time of the inspections everything will be closed. However, the photo and video of the "museum", where all the walls are hung with photos of Italian "heroes", along with Mussolini and Hitler - the shaft.

"Our Memorial sign contains two elements - a star, which was attached to the headgear of the Red Armymen, and an eagle feather, which was attached to the headdress of Alpine shooters."


Fascist fans turned to Putin for protection


On a headdress of Red Army men, I will notice, not such a star was attached. And with a sickle and a hammer. But the exact same star among the Italians. Yes, without a sickle and hammer. Strange ... Someone lied again ...



“Although the presence of any militaristic symbols here has long and convincingly refuted.”


That is, the alpine shooter's hat is not a militaristic symbol? Hmm ... funny. But the corps is still in service today, if that.



Strange interpretation, strange.

“... recently the Voronezh Regional Court gave its definition on this matter (12.09 2018). The court’s decision states:“ there are no grounds for assigning elements of a memorial sign to Nazi paraphernalia and symbolism, as the headdress indicates belonging to a certain genus troops, military unit, rank, and so on, and not belonging to the Nazi movement, any Nazi organization. "


That's right, what is the question - the answer is the same. Completely nominees filed an application to the court, and the court clearly answered them. Yes, there is no Nazi symbolism. That's right, because the Nazis were in Germany. And in Italy were fascists. I applaud.

“Participants in the opening ceremony of the Memorial sign in 2003 refuted the fact that there were any remains laid there. There are no official and legal documents to this effect. ”


That's right, what are they, fools or what? But the prosecutor's office and the witnesses of the excavation of the remains in 2018 give a clear answer. Everything is captured on photos and videos, but a liar from the public doesn't care. Began to deceive the president - what triviality?





There were no bones in the monument! And prosecutors, people, cameras and camcorders are lying! Well, the public can not Rossosh lie to his president!

So they lie to the rest.

For the valiant prosecutor's office of Rossosh three times insulting. But we'll talk about the prosecutor's office separately.

“The opinion of the Rossoshan public is to leave alone a memorial sign, cowards and villains are fighting with bones and monuments.”


Oh, how ... Well, right, to please Italian friends? Or already the owners? Legalize the memorial, which is also an illegal burial and object of worship for the descendants of the Italian fascists.

In general, doubt creeps in. Why is the public of Rossosh standing up for this monument? True, his memorial, to the defenders and liberators of Rossosh, from last year was covered with snow, only 16 of January, on the day of the liberation of the city, removed the snow.



The eternal flame was optimized, transferred to the category of Memorable, which can be ignited for a couple of hours a couple of times a year, on Victory Day and Liberation Day. Budget money saved.

This is what patriots from the city of military glory don't care about. But on the other hand, for the monument to the Alpine shooters, they stood up for the whole of Kahal, there’s already smoke!

And, most importantly, they lie! His president is lying!

But not only the “public” of Rossosh is lying. Lie and responsible persons.

For some reason, the head of the district Yuri Mishankov in an interview with RIA Voronezh (the provincial colleagues decided not to check his words, but for good reason) began to tell tales how Savchenko’s sinister like in 2009 (actually in 2004) wanted for to build a budget account in the square with the monument to the fascist Victory Fountain.

"Witch-hunt". As a Voronezh memorable sign was in the center of the scandal.

And the evil and unpatriotic Savchenko has a document dated 2004-th year, signed by 14-ti Rossosh entrepreneurs, ready to finance the construction of the fountain. And the resolution of the then head of Kvasov that you can build a fountain, but anywhere, except the public garden on Kirov.



Bad document. For the administration.





Nikolay Karionov, Chairman of the Rossoshansk District Council of War, Labor, Law Enforcement and Veterans Veterans. Although he signed a false appeal to the president of Russia, he says reasonable things:

“As for the most memorable sign, in my opinion, there are several options: move it to the cemetery or slightly change the structure of the memorable sign, complementing it with a five-pointed star with a sickle and hammer, making it higher than the Tyrolean hat. Or leave everything as it is. "


As it is - this, of course, is the most for everyone. Do not touch anything, Savchenko shut his mouth, and then - walk, the public! With a sense of accomplishment. But the idea with a normal star is not bad. If all the Italian Kostomahi pull out of the monument ...

To whom gentlemen curry favor, I already wrote. And I will write again, because the authorities of Rossosh are interested in the Fascist monument today, and they say that they are not blushing to their president, but in writing, then tomorrow, following their example, they will want to establish “a memorable sign of friendship ".

Fortunately, those who wish from Hungary have drawn themselves in terms of honoring their dead.

“... We are asking you for help and protection from the military valor unleashed against the city and its inhabitants, a vile provocative campaign. We fear that lies pouring from the screens through central channels will lead to confrontation in society. The utterly distorted information from the lips of a member of the Federation Council has already turned into social networks, has damaged Rossosh's reputation and international relations. Thousands of people, based on the pretentious and irresponsible plot of the TVC, accuse us almost of complicity with the occupiers. We do not deserve it, we are patriots, responsible citizens and honest people. But we are in despair and powerlessness in front of the federal media, and we ask your protection from the attacks of a group of provocateurs and the editors who have fallen on their side.

On behalf of the public of the Rossosh district:

Nikolay Karionov, Chairman of the Council of War and Labor Veterans, the Armed Forces and law enforcement agencies of the Rossoshansky District. 396650, Voronezh region, the city of Rossosh, pl. Lenin, 4. (47396) 2-55-44, 910-346-27-22.

Anatoly A. Sklobovsky, Chairman of the Local Council of the Wartime Children's Social-Patriotic Movement, 8-920-423-90-10.

Oleg Nikolayevich Zolotaryov, Chairman of the Council of the Rossoshansky District Organization of Veterans of the Border Troops of the FSB of Russia, 8-915-580-51-11.

Vladimir Kiselev, Chairman of the Council of Veterans of the Rossoshansky District Office of the All-Russian Public Organization “Russian Union of Veterans of Afghanistan (RSVA). Art. duty EDDS, pl. Lenin, 4.

Morozov Alim Yakovlevich, historian and local historian, author of books about the Great Patriotic War, Honorary Citizen of the city of Rossosh. 396650, Voronezh region, Rossosh, per. Silent, d. 2, apt. 2. 8-951-862-79-64.


By the way, such a small remark. The honorary citizen of Rossosh, Alim Morozov, the main ideologue of this strange "friendship" with the Alpine shooters and the former director of a strange museum with portraits of Hitler, Mussolini and Italian executioners, used his official position and deceived the public.

Here is a letter from the Prosecutor’s Office of Rossosh, from which it follows that the underground hotel complex, which was equipped in the basement of the kindergarten and passed on by the good mayor of the city, the Grinev Alpine Shooters, has been owned by the kindergarten since 2016.



However, the new director of the museum, appointed instead of Morozov, is completely unaware of these square meters.

It turns out that the old director of the museum, Alim Morozov, and the director of the kindergarten "Smile" Lyubov Laptieva, having joined the criminal community, simply staged an illegal hotel in the territory of the kindergarten / museum and, despite all the decrees and installation documents, continued to pass it on 2016, 2017 and 2018. Italian "friends".

It is difficult to figure out, with a mercenary purpose or not, but the fact of misleading the prosecutor's office is obvious. I would have thought about these strange cases on the spot.

In general, perhaps, I will join this chorus. Yes, a little bit like that from the amount of lies that I pulled out today, well, nothing can be done. Such is the city of Rossosh, such is the public, such rulers.


Dear Mr. President Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!

Help these people! Let them continue to turn their city into an incomprehensible thing, let them continue, taking up positions and positions, to lie, as Mr. Mishankov and all his associates do.

Yes, it will probably be even better. Simply, we will all be aware of the existence of such a reservation in the south of the Voronezh region, where we focus on a strange friendship with a strange association of alpine shooters, whose ancestors frolicked well on Voronezh land.



Let the gentlemen of the Alpine arrows continue to buy their "friends" and explore the fighting past of their ancestors. They put up monuments to them, stuff the remains of their warriors in them, go on excursions to the places of the military glory of the Italian fascists.



I am sure that the son of a veteran of that war will appreciate the cry of the soul of the Rossoshans' inhabitants and will help them.

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  1. +29
    18 January 2019 05: 56
    In the 1990s, a friend from CNITI got a job working on television. And at the same time I decided to further represent the interests of the Arab countries on Russian central TV. She was very upset that the embassy of every Arab country required her to work only for that country. And when she said that she wanted to receive a salary from all the monarchies of the Persian Gulf, her services were immediately refused. And after one such statement, it seems that all embassies were informed. I think that it is not a sin for some opposition parties and United Russia to take advantage of the ban on the profession for friends of the Italian occupiers to raise the rating of their party. True, such deputies for themselves will absolutely be denied visas to the West for the rest of their lives. .
    1. +4
      18 January 2019 06: 12
      Quote: Roman Skomorhov
      Some people find it unpleasant that cemeteries of Hungarians, Germans and Italians exist like this. Well maintained such.

      But: we, Russians, do not fight with the dead. The Hungarian government contains (albeit with our hands) the cemeteries of its soldiers. And there is nothing wrong with that. All within the framework of a bilateral intergovernmental agreement on the maintenance and care of war graves.

      So let the Hungarian warriors lie under marble slabs, in a rather beautiful corner of the Don's bend.

      https://topwar.ru/120039-o-vengrah-kotoryh-pod-voronezhem-ne-brali-v-plen.html

      Two articles on the same subject as two sides of the same coin. Which of them is true is difficult to judge on the basis of the apparent inconsistency of the views of the author.
      Confusion and reeling in thoughts ...
      1. +41
        18 January 2019 08: 16
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Confusion and reeling in thoughts ...

        In order to overcome confusion and vacillation in my thoughts and actions, I propose adopting a law on the inadmissibility of perpetuating the memory of the invaders and the decent maintenance of burial places of imported soldiers. Amerz horns stick out in these stories on the installation of monuments to the Nazis. There is a war going on until the complete destruction of Russia from within. The task of the first stage has already been completed - the USSR is destroyed. The process goes further - the outskirts are torn away, Belarus is staggering. Everything is much more serious than simply deceiving the President.
        1. +7
          18 January 2019 13: 22
          Well done, Roman Skomorokhov! No wonder he acquired a military specialty! It is fighting against the fascist reptiles and their Russian collaborators in the administration of Rossosh, Rossoshansky district, Voronezh region!

          Right! It is necessary to drive the fascists from our land - the living and the bone dead.
          If the prosecutor's office on this issue, in fact, is inactive, then it makes sense to apply for the demolition of this monument to the Italian fascists in the FSB. The FSB also deals with these issues - and more extensively. Do not be shy. The FSB will also find members of foreign agents in the Russian Federation, in the local administrations.
        2. +16
          18 January 2019 17: 46
          Well, the president seems to be also fighting the Soviet past! Was at the opening of the monument by the Memorial, which is funded from there. He praised the deceased Alekseeva, a citizen of that country. He opened the monument to the most honest writer and supported his compulsory study at school. Closes the mausoleum and hides the symbols of the USSR on May 9. He asks for investment from foreigners and allows his own money to be taken out. Maybe we have an offensive from above and below !? In fact, we are surrounded! We seem to prohibit Nazi symbols, but do not support Soviet. The modern form of power structures and some symbols have no resemblance to the Nazi !?
          1. +10
            18 January 2019 19: 52
            The fascists fought with the Soviets, the president is at war with the Soviet past, so it is logical that "fascist fans" ask their "brother-in-law" for help.
            1. +3
              19 January 2019 05: 04
              Quote: atos_kin
              resident

              This word must be remembered! good
          2. +5
            18 January 2019 21: 04

            "Our Memorial sign contains two elements - a star, which was attached to the headgear of the Red Armymen, and an eagle feather, which was attached to the headdress of Alpine shooters."


            The feather on the monument is more like a knife with a serrated blade ...



            And, bureaucrats and "public" Rossosh want to say
            1. 0
              19 January 2019 09: 03
              [quote = Pax tecum] [quote

              The feather on the monument is more like a knife with a serrated blade ...
              [/ Quote]
              Monument to the broken multitool. wink
      2. Underwater hunter
        +17
        18 January 2019 08: 20
        Do not be ashamed to lie to the president, the Russian public? Not?


        and the president is not ashamed to deceive the people? Somehow, this phrase excited me .. Do not be ashamed to lie to the president? Today I’m watching the news, the president, pasting the last mosaic, blesses .. just our president is no longer a man, but a demigod .. He can deceive his people, but people are not allowed to lie ..
        1. +17
          18 January 2019 12: 12
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          Do not be ashamed to lie to the president, the Russian public? Not?


          and the president is not ashamed to deceive the people? Somehow, this phrase excited me .. Do not be ashamed to lie to the president? Today I’m watching the news, the president, pasting the last mosaic, blesses .. just our president is no longer a man, but a demigod .. He can deceive his people, but people are not allowed to lie ..

          Everything is a bit more complicated here and the story is longer. What we have been observing recently (including the case of Kolya from Urengoy and the Mannerheim board and Mr Putin’s statement that the USSR did not produce anything but galoshes, but they couldn’t sell anything) is state-owned. politics and investigation STATE policies to reformat people's minds. It is with the participation of the state, including with the allocation of state. means filmed the most vile movies of crafts about the war. That only "picture", "4 days in May" is: In it, the author, referring to the story of Marshal of the Soviet Union KS Moskalenko, described the alleged incident the arrival of Nazi troops to help the Soviet intelligence group... And how many others were filmed and released on screens (for example, penal battalion, bastards)? First (including through such a "culture") they destroy faith in you in the foundations on which your personality and morality are built, and then the necessary values ​​are built into this place. What for? And the Russian (Soviet) mentality is very inconvenient for the authorities in the modern world. The authorities, incl. The Russian Federation, striving with all its might to the Western community, needs a consumer, with the principle: every man for himself and man is a wolf to man. Because there is no national project of its own and a monolithic society (since no confrontation with the West is planned) is no longer needed. And besides, such a monolithic society, which also puts general (and therefore state) interests above personal ones, is very dangerous for the current government of the Russian Federation. How to explain to such a society that a thief should not be in prison, but is a successful respected person, and that justice (including social justice) is an anachronism. And since the society, as before, shows disagreement with the growing injustice (see how the people were offended by the reform), and the path to reformat is not the easiest and shortest. Then the authorities decided to slightly change the methods of influence. And now the authorities are actively introducing the slogan - the Motherland is us. Let's rally around the "leader". But this is also the same substitution of concepts and reformatting of consciousness.
          Since firstly Putin and his co. nor eat = HOMELAND.
          And secondly, what real rallying, but even me personally, with Putin, Chubais, Matvienko can be discussed. If I am in my right mind and memory and understand perfectly well that I have nothing in common with the indicated gentlemen and their interests. Therefore, the reformatting process, which may be invisible to many, is underway, and efforts in this direction will increase.

          PS But the authorities made so many mistakes, owing to their irrepressible greed, somewhere stupid, that they themselves went too far and shook society. And now society, with great suspicion, begins to look closely at any event. And after looking closely, he often begins to amaze at what he hears and what he sees with his own eyes. Therefore, "thanks to the authorities," I am more calm about the fate of the country today than half a year ago. Yes, confusion looms more and more clearly ahead, but just as loudly people declare their views and principles. And reading these statements, you understand that the process of rejection of the values ​​and concepts imposed by the current government is only growing. We will survive the Troubles. The main thing is that we will remain the same as our grandfathers and fathers were, and will not become a part of the Western global project. hi
          1. 0
            19 January 2019 18: 57
            The state is an instrument for expressing the will of the ruling class. So all is well.
        2. +5
          18 January 2019 13: 48
          No demagoguery. You would speak out on a specific occasion, and your attitude towards the government and the president does not play a role here. Fascism is creeping or it is necessary to stop on the approaches or we plunge into bloody showdowns again. That is the question.
          1. 0
            18 January 2019 15: 03
            Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
            Fascism is creeping or it is necessary to stop on the approaches or we plunge into bloody showdowns again.

            Thank you for your many years of struggle with collaborators, dear Nikolai Alexandrovich! I fully support you.
          2. +7
            18 January 2019 18: 04
            Has fascism been stopped in Ukraine? Or recognized? How will Russia stop fascism in Europe if we ourselves are integrated waist-high in their economy? We ourselves are breaking into their house! To the house that Jack built! We break for the wheat that is stored in the closet, the house that Jack built! We ourselves do not want to build our own house. And do not build. And we want to get into Jack’s house, even a lackey, but in his house! We don’t want to build our own house. And then stop someone! Che we didn’t fight when the oil was more than a hundred bucks? And why did they start to fight when it fell to 20-30? Why didn’t fascism stop in Ukraine? We will stop! Thank! Already stopped and won. And fascism and poverty. Che so winners so rise prices? Is the economy taking off like that? If the economy is so tearing up, where is modern technology?
            1. +2
              19 January 2019 05: 12
              Quote: Mister Creed
              Che we didn’t fight when the oil was more than a hundred bucks? And why did they start to fight when it fell to 20-30?

              bingo!!
            2. 0
              20 January 2019 22: 32
              Thanks, just in the hole.
              Apparently Luke is to blame ...
      3. +26
        18 January 2019 09: 59
        But: we Russians do not fight the dead.

        At one time, Konstantin Simonov wrote a poem about the English military cemetery in Sevastopol, where there are such lines: "We never took revenge on the dead."

        We do not take revenge, but to erect all kinds of monuments and obelisks to the defeated enemy, who came to us to kill !!! - This is blasphemy and betrayal in relation not only to our own, but also to all those who died and fought for our country and for our future birth.
        1. +6
          18 January 2019 11: 22
          Alena, bravo!
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      4. +6
        18 January 2019 13: 55
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Two articles on the same subject as two sides of the same coin.

        The subjects of the articles are still different. It is one thing to ennoble the existing military burial place, and another to put a new memorial sign in the center of the city, and even with the remains of Italian soldiers.
        1. +1
          19 January 2019 12: 13
          If the remains are laid illegally, then it is possible to transfer without problems (this is if you can prove whose remains it is, which is doubtful). Otherwise, do not consider it at all as a burial place.
          The monument can be reconstructed into a monument to the victims of the invaders.
          To stop the processions is quite possible if you connect the veteran organizations of the Voronezh region. .
          Punishing the propaganda of fascism in the "museum" is difficult, but possible.
          Criminalizing illegal business is the responsibility of law enforcement agencies.
          1. +1
            21 January 2019 08: 42
            There can be no reconstruction of the grave of an unknown fascist. The revenge-seekers themselves wrote a book in which they made a kind of "confession." https://yadi.sk/i/hef3uMT9rmKZV at this link you can read the revelations of those black diggers who brought the remains of Mussolini's warriors from the field cemetery to the very center of the former occupied city and arranged a memorial of the "glory" of the fascist occupiers.
        2. +1
          21 January 2019 22: 11
          The fact is that the first monument to the Nazis near the cemetery was also erected back in the nineties, despite the ban of the regional authorities, when it was possible to buy local officials cheaply. (which actually was done). One Italian travel agency (Swallow) paid local cooperators and they made a monument out of concrete with marble chips and erected it on the outskirts of the cemetery so that tourists could have a place to pay tribute to their "heroes". But there was no mass grave during the war, and somewhere in that area, in a ravine, about ten Italians were buried, killed during the defeat and their flight to the Belgorod region. Later they were officially exhumed and all the remains were taken to Italy, but the monument of "glory" remained. And so, last year, it was replaced with a new one made of pure marble (so for centuries). Question: "And on what legal basis and for what merits should a monument to the soldiers of fascist Italy stand, albeit on the outskirts of the cemetery? What should it remind us, the locals? About the Italian concentration camp? About the brutal massacres of civilians, including women and children, about girls who were raped and about many cases when, from scattered Italian grenade-traps of bright red color, children became crippled for life without arms, legs or eyes. Maybe for these merits there will be a monument to the Alpine shooters who came to us to conquer our lands and destroy or enslave the people?
      5. 0
        22 January 2019 16: 05
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Two articles on the same subject as two sides of the same coin. Which of them is true is difficult to judge on the basis of the apparent inconsistency of the views of the author.
        Confusion and reeling in thoughts ...

        If for each author received a small fraction of the reward, then tomorrow the Muscovite will tear from the third party all the same coin ...
    2. -6
      18 January 2019 07: 16
      In our life, will we be equal to obscurantist Muslim monarchies? And let's cut all the opponents' heads, like ISIS. But you yourself are sure that you will not be sawed off.
      1. +8
        18 January 2019 13: 42
        And here obscurantism? The laws of your country must be respected. Not allowed any rehabilitation and heroization of Nazism and fascism and the point. There are cemeteries by law, put a cross. There are no burials in the city center, and officials allowed the revanchists to drag the remains of their warriors, it is necessary to bring to justice both officials and revanchists. Law and punishment must be inevitable. Otherwise, there will be chaos bureaucrats. And you write something about ISIS there. You don’t need to cut your head, but it doesn’t interfere with the muzzle on the table, those who are trying to sing fascism.
        1. +7
          18 January 2019 15: 07
          Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
          There are cemeteries by law, put a cross.

          Right. Memorial cross. So that the descendants of those "conquerors" would be reminded: whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword. Only such monuments should stand in the cemeteries of the invaders!
          1. +14
            18 January 2019 21: 17
            These are the "monuments" to be erected ...
            1. +1
              22 January 2019 16: 11
              Quote: Pax tecum
              These are the "monuments" to be erected ...

              And write the words of one invader general from the reverse:
              “The defeat at Stalingrad terrified both the German people and their army. Never before in the history of Germany has there been a case of such a terrible death of so many troops. General 3. Westphal. " (with)
        2. +10
          18 January 2019 18: 17
          We don’t seem to have heroism of Nazism. But the descent and vulgarization of the Soviet system is and is successfully going on. What to do with this? There is no heroism of Nazism. But there is a heroization of Kolchak and Mannerheim. There is exaltation of the dissidents. What to do with this? A lot of work was done by the Memorial. For money from there. Why pay money from there? What to do with this? So the glorification of Nazism is a matter of time? How many Europe resisted the Nazis, how many the USSR. How much time did the USSR resist from the time of Gorbachev? How long did the USSR pass? So it turns out that not in exalting the Nazis, but in ridiculing everything Soviet, in this way we magnify that order and regime. And our leadership itself seeks to integrate into that regime and those orders.
          1. -2
            18 January 2019 19: 50
            And I remember very much a memorial in a small Polish town. White sella of four-sided shape and on each side in Polish, German, English and RUSSIAN one and the same inscription - "to victims of the Second World War" .... Probably this is how it is needed. And without glorifying anyone, and without belittling ...
            1. +3
              18 January 2019 21: 16
              In addition to the victims of the war, there was also a struggle of social systems. The system of the elect fought against social conquests. Social conquest defeated the nationally elected. But in the 91st social system, the opportunists and the class elected were defeated. Racial superiority could not break the idea of ​​the international, but class could do it very easily.
              1. +2
                18 January 2019 23: 34
                And it seems to me that the old woman with a scythe did not look at the class, social status or race when she sent a calibrated landmine from a long-range barrel or a half-toned disc from a diving bomb to a residential city. But worn with the ideas of class struggle and then fight with monuments and cemeteries. Dead shame does not have, about the dead or good or nothing .... We forget these wisdom ....
                1. -1
                  21 January 2019 08: 52
                  Listen, you leader of the redskins. But my grandfather fought so that the corrupt scum of the bureaucracy would allow feathered revanchists to erect monuments with bones in the center of my city. And over the wisdom and the fact that the dead do not have a shame. Let these dead invaders rot where they were buried during the rout. And there is nothing to drag their bones into the city center, and even give them honors. These are not heroes, but just cannon fodder of the fascist Mussolini regime. Or am I wrong? https://youtu.be/QMSNmLws0UY Can we allow in our country that the executioners and thugs of Mussolini, Hitler and other ghouls be given the same honor?
            2. +2
              19 January 2019 22: 08
              memorial in a small Polish town. White sella of four-sided shape and on each side in Polish, German, English and RUSSIAN the same inscription - "to the victims of the Second World War"


              Such monuments can stand in Poland, because it is not clear with whom and for whom the Poles fought, and in Russia, if they want to put an end to the cemeteries that they were here, let them put flowers on their bones on the day of remembrance. But the Russians should not under any circumstances be under this action and in no way support their commemorative events, because this is pure betrayal of the memory of their ancestors and relatives who gave their lives for our freedom and victory. And there can be no other monuments on our land to foreign soldiers !!! And in no case should marches with alien flags and banners be allowed. Let them wear it in Italy, no one pulled them here by the ears.
            3. 0
              20 January 2019 22: 36
              This is their WWII ... I don’t know, maybe for you ...
              We call the Great Patriotic War.
              Agree, well, sooo much difference.
        3. 0
          20 January 2019 02: 34
          and what kind of law on the rehabilitation of fascism?
          there is Nazism, but what is the law for fascism?
  2. +15
    18 January 2019 06: 05
    Novel! It is better to cover such events with a video report, where you can show, compare and tell. The material of the article is perceived very hard. And here it is:
    I am sure that the son of a veteran of that war will appreciate the cry of the soul of the Rossoshans' inhabitants and will help them.

    To be honest, this issue should be dealt with by local authorities and elected deputies. If they consider the fascist attributes worthy of perpetuation. then ... request
    The Russians also did not express a desire to erect a monument to Yegor Gaidar and establish an economic forum named after him ...
    1. +4
      18 January 2019 12: 17
      And to local authorities that the law is not written? Are they entitled to erect a monument to Mussolini for trips to Italy? Maybe before expressing my thoughts, it’s nice to think about what fright and who allowed local officials to perpetuate the memory of the Nazis, and even in the city center?
      1. +1
        18 January 2019 21: 22
        That's right! A law is needed and a clear mechanism for its implementation is that all the monuments are only based on public discussion and a local referendum *.

        A referendum (lat. Referendum) is a form of direct expression of will of citizens expressed in a vote on the most significant issues of a national, regional or local value.
    2. +1
      18 January 2019 15: 11
      Quote: ROSS 42
      local authorities and elected deputies should deal with this issue.

      This question is not local, but national. State security is called. And therefore, if in some places we sometimes confuse some coasts, then the federal government must tightly correct it.
    3. 0
      19 January 2019 01: 48
      The Russians want to demolish all the monuments to these guides.
  3. +16
    18 January 2019 06: 29
    Remember: "if the Germans won, now they drank Bavarian beer and ate sausages" ... Here you go ... only Italians ... Jack ... What can you do for money? For money? I can do anything. ... Our museum director does not know who Caesar Kunnikov is ... so ... what to say ... In the USSR, officials have brought memory to formalism, now I don't even know how to describe ...
    1. +13
      18 January 2019 06: 41
      Yes, people began to turn into "Ivanov who do not remember kinship" .... Conscience is on one side of the scales, and money and business trips abroad are on the other ...
      1. -2
        18 January 2019 08: 37
        Conscience on one side of the scales, and on the other money and business trips abroad


        Are you talking about "night wolves" on American motorcycles in Europe? Then I see Herurg with ribbons in the Crimea and a strange expression is spinning in my head: "pumped"
        1. 0
          18 January 2019 21: 27
          No, not about him. And those officials in Rossosh.
    2. +6
      18 January 2019 10: 53
      Quote: parusnik
      ... In the USSR, officials brought the memory to formalism, now I don’t even know how to describe ...
      And the word collaborationism, well, and the corresponding article ---- are suitable?
      They probably got something while discussing the details ....
      1. +4
        18 January 2019 11: 02
        And the word collaborationism [/ quote]... quite ...
        1. +7
          18 January 2019 12: 07
          You see, Alexei, I’m talking about this when I read a stupor from me. It’s kind of like it’s easy and easy to brainwash the whole city that no one is against? then to another city, the third, fourth .... Like Narusov, what law did they propose (forgot exactly) .... And then what, like this, to praise invader-enemies 70 years after the Victory?
          Ah, the order was carried out. There was also an article about the Hungarians ... Who is there from ours now, I'm afraid to make a mistake ..
          It’s like some kind of devilry. Although I do not like this anti-scientific word. And there’s no other way ...
          1. +6
            18 January 2019 12: 34
            Devilry consists in the fact that people who have their grandfathers, great-grandfathers died defending their homeland or fought ...
            1. +5
              18 January 2019 13: 15
              And how did this creep spread around the city, blindfolded eyes, convolutions, that the whole city did not mind? And this veil did not sleep?
              1. +4
                18 January 2019 15: 18
                Quote: Reptiloid
                that the whole city does not mind?

                Well, the whole city does not have to slander. Here is Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko who has been fighting for a year, entrepreneurs were ready to chip in to build the Victory Fountain instead of this abomination ...
                Something is wrong in the state apparatus, this is a fact ...
                1. +5
                  18 January 2019 16: 51
                  You see, I have doubts and perplexity from the situation, I do not slander, but I mean teachers, how to teach them, and parents. I understand that there are many levers of pressure from above, including on entrepreneurs. And it’s clear that in a small settlement there are difficulties. And it was not by chance that I recalled to Narusov that she suggested there in the Federation Council, there was an article.
                  After all, back in 2009, the OSCE equated Stalinism with fascism. And that would have Russia repented forever.
      2. 0
        18 January 2019 15: 14
        Quote: Reptiloid
        and the corresponding article ---- fit?

        Where is she, the article is?
        1. +1
          18 January 2019 17: 09
          Yes, there is no way to do without lawyers. It is difficult to eliminate (I remembered the illegal fences and gates) Folk remedies say they acted somewhere, such as paint ...
          1. +2
            18 January 2019 18: 02
            Dmitry crap sprawled across the country .... And it doesn’t doze off .., but somewhere erupts like for example in Rossosh ..
            1. +4
              18 January 2019 19: 15
              Quote: parusnik
              Dmitry crap sprawled across the country .... And it doesn’t doze off .., but somewhere erupts like for example in Rossosh ..

              In different places there are monuments to white whales, at least in Penza, then to someone else. And these monuments have no contradiction with the bourgeois regime. Because, as some wrote about the white-shoulders, they are good businessmen. Of course, the largest bourgeois monument in Moscow is the Wailing Wall. The name is ----- as in Biblical history, when the troops of the emperor Titus destroyed the Second Temple. At this point ---- The Wailing Wall in Israel in Jerusalem. And what for the analogy with Moscow?
              // In different countries of Europe, also in the USA there are monuments to Russian collaborators, various organizations, including
              Germany, Platting --- plate memory of ROA
              Czech Republic, Prague ---- cross-monument at the cemetery, ROA
              Northern Italy, Timau, Catholic Temple of the Most Holy Theotokos, dedicated to the memory of the Cossacks of the 15th SS Cavalry Corps, similarly there was a plate --- Moscow, Russia, All Saints Temple. On May 8, 2007, anti-fascists destroyed the memorial. The rector of the Temple, Archpriest Vasily Baburin, said that the slab has nothing to do with the Temple, a splinter remained, in 2014 it was replaced by the slab "To the Cossacks who fell for Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" // --- under the article Russian collaborationism in WW2
              Wikipedia
              1. +2
                18 January 2019 19: 22
                You see, creeps, creeps ... creeps ...
  4. +11
    18 January 2019 06: 46
    A very necessary and complicated topic of preserving the historical truth has been raised. This must be done for the entire Russian state in the name of peace and tranquility in it.
    1. +1
      18 January 2019 08: 14
      Especially remembering with gratitude the graves of Russian soldiers scattered across all continents. There they can also be called occupiers (I’m not only about Europe, but also about Asia and Africa). And if we will remember them and care as Italians, then honor and praise be to us.
      1. +10
        18 January 2019 09: 59
        Quote: Deck
        There they can also be called occupiers

        Yes, yes, we remember "billions of raped and murdered German women" not only about Europe, but also Asia and Africa and Kolenka in the Bundestag.
    2. +2
      18 January 2019 13: 21
      Quote: Yustet1950
      A very necessary and complicated topic of preserving the historical truth has been raised. This must be done for the entire Russian state in the name of peace and tranquility in it.

      How to solve this topic if historical truth is in the plane of socialist ideology? The current managers are representatives of the bourgeoisie who destroyed the USSR. No matter how you look, there will be contradictions.
  5. +13
    18 January 2019 07: 05
    All these monuments being installed, ostensibly to strengthen "friendship" are in fact an attempt by representatives of administrations of districts, townships ... to fuck something from the side in whose honor this is being done. What if the Italians, Hungarians, Germans (insert as needed) as a sign of gratitude will become generous and allocate money for the development and support of the administration’s pants. Otherwise, this is not how to explain.
    1. +9
      18 January 2019 07: 17
      Quote: rotmistr60
      All these monuments are erected, ostensibly with the aim of strengthening "friendship" in fact are an attempt by representatives of the administrations of districts, villages ... fuck something from the side in whose honor this is being done.

      Take it higher ...
    2. +5
      18 January 2019 10: 09
      will allocate money for the development and support of the pants of the administration

      I’m sure that not the administration itself, but some of its representatives. And I think support only pants there will not do
    3. 0
      18 January 2019 18: 29
      Yeah! We have this hope for the support of the pants goes back to the time of Gorbachev. He kept waiting for support, then Boris was waiting for support from Bill, now Putin is waiting for support. So the desire to support we have permeated the entire leadership, from top to bottom. The government is waiting for the support of foreign states, state aid oligarchs, and medium-sized business assistance to the authorities. That's how we live.
  6. +3
    18 January 2019 07: 06
    It was they who hung the banners of the medals of their ancestors, who fought here?
    1. 0
      18 January 2019 16: 40
      Quote: Voldemar
      It was they who hung the banners of the medals of their ancestors, who fought here?

      If so, then ... a rare muck! But even if not the very medals - how to perceive them differently?
  7. +17
    18 January 2019 07: 43
    I do not believe that the Italians care so much about the memory of their killed ancestors - the invaders. Politics is everything, and directed not at all from friendly considerations. Confidence is added by small personal observations. In the former Russian city of Przhevalsk, we have the grave of an Italian anti-fascist. He was a scientist - physicist and fled to the USSR. No one cared about his grave, and no one knew. A few years ago, relatives asked to find, the guys were like, found. That’s all. A person from the Swedish royal family, buried in the same grave, is of no interest to anyone even now. One grandfather, my good friend, about 200 kilometers from Przhevalsk went mushrooming and found a grave, 99% that it was the grave of Lorenz Saladin, a Swiss communist, the inscription written in pencil did not survive.
    1. +1
      19 January 2019 12: 14
      Revanchists, of course, do not care about the memory of their dead veterans. For them, the main vanity and therefore they had the quirk to "take" the city center and establish a dominant monument to their "heroes". And they did not even deign to make a box of metal or wood for the remains, but stuffed these bones, brought from the field cemetery, into a plastic bag and walled them up on a pedestal.
  8. -1
    18 January 2019 07: 50
    the most interesting thing is that Italians could become our allies, Duce at one time leaned towards communist ideas, but since he was very influenced and Hitler was nearby, he chose the other side
  9. +11
    18 January 2019 08: 54
    Roman, file a petition on change.org, I think we’ll collect enough signatures. I will definitely subscribe and my friends are campaigning.
    1. +7
      18 January 2019 10: 29
      Quote: Hammer 75
      Roman, file a petition at change.org

      With tongue removed. I wanted to write the same thing, but decided to read all the comments first. I support with two hands. I’ll sign it and ask friends.
    2. 0
      18 January 2019 14: 57
      Cheng org - heresy created by amers. And in Russia, it has neither meaning nor legal rights. And those who bought this lure are burdocks who believed Amers. You look - who created this site and who contains it? So - this site was created by unidentified persons on a private commercial server located in Delaware, USA. And now I will ask you a question:
      And why are you, Hammer 75, campaigning for a petition on an Amer server against whom? Well, not for the overthrow of power (namely, for this, this lure was created). And anyway ... something you look like a provocator. Why don't you campaign for a petition on the server of the Russian Public Initiative?
      1. +1
        18 January 2019 22: 13
        And why are you, Hammer 75, campaigning for a petition on an Amer server against whom? Not for the overthrow of power

        Perfectly! Petition against the monument to the Nazis - a call for the overthrow of power ?!
        Original ... Yes, on any site you need! And on that, and on the other, and on the third! And the more people who can attract attention, the better!
        And whose site is there, for example, excuse me, to the foot.
        1. +1
          19 January 2019 19: 24
          Sergei, who is Dude, you don’t understand one thing: what we have inside the country (among ourselves) is one thing. And the fact that negative statements, protests, indignations are gathered by such a community, which was originally planned as an instrument for the destruction of Russia, is completely different! Here, at first, they collect everything that is bad in Russia, then - that a bloke from the power structures does such things bad (AND WHAT IS INTERESTING, THIS MIRACLE CAN SIT ON THE SUBSY OF THE SAME OWNERS, THAT THIS RESOURCE !!!), then - it It covers an official in the region, then the chain is built in the government ... and ... TA-DAAA !!! - system in the Russian Federation - CRIMINAL AND NOT LEGITIMATE !!!
          ... Aren't you already so stupid that you don't understand what the Overton Window is? Hmm ... maybe you are doing this on purpose?
      2. 0
        19 January 2019 12: 02
        Or maybe at once on two platforms to create petitions and try to convince caring people and sincere sensible patriots to vote for the square to be cleansed and changed into Victory Square. Insolent revanchists sought to replicate Kirov Square in the square named after St. Nyokko, the former fascist chaplain of the times of the occupation of our region. https://yadi.sk/i/hef3uMT9rmKZV
        1. 0
          19 January 2019 19: 33
          Nikolai Alexandrovich, well, you can’t be so unintelligible in your connections! Especially connections with enemies! There is a Russian resource - and act on it! And everything else is from the evil one.
  10. +13
    18 January 2019 09: 29
    After the pension reform, the authorities handed over to Bandera Ukraine its opponents and participants in the Russian Spring, I am no longer surprised. Maybe the friends of the fascists are turning to the right address?
  11. +13
    18 January 2019 09: 40
    The theme doesn't "smell" very good! Memorable signs on the Russian land to the invaders is already too much, and who called them here, after all, they came close to us to rob and kill our fellow citizens! Yes, for this all this "Rossosh public" it is time to call to the most severe responsibility! Somehow, these hustlers will begin to erect monuments to the "innocently murdered" Nazis (according to the boy Kolya) on the Stalingrad land poured with the blood of our fathers and grandfathers. And in my opinion, everything is simpler than simple: the usual business of local liberals on the blood of our ancestors! Scum and they have no other name.
  12. BAI
    +2
    18 January 2019 10: 12
    The author again slams me a warning for insulting the author or is banned, but I have to say the following:
    The author is weak in legal matters, but nevertheless got involved in a game with officials on their field according to their rules, where he will lose. Legal advice from a local lawyer who works with a local court (you just need to look for a successful one) is not very expensive. It’s better to hire him - but that’s already essential. Officials are also not experts in jurisprudence (they are masters in composing letters) and a specialist in their field can replay them. At least the trial may go to higher courts and leave the territory of local officials, there may be other decisions. But these are all questions for professional lawyers.
  13. +9
    18 January 2019 11: 00
    We are not fighting with the dead. So let there be MEMORIAL structures in the territory of military burials. No one is against it. But why are they fighting with our dead soldiers, with dead and still alive veterans, with the History of our country? If this is war, then we must defend ourselves. There is a famous photo. A German soldier fires a rifle at the back of a Soviet woman who hugged a child. Here is a sculpture you can install. As a warning to us and our children. It will be a MONUMENT.
    1. BAI
      +2
      18 January 2019 11: 12
      There is a famous photo. A German soldier fires a rifle at the back of a Soviet woman who hugged a child.

      Well, would you imagine him, what's wrong with that?
      1. +2
        18 January 2019 11: 59
        I was just here thinking, but my thoughts are vague)) Not so long ago, there was a material that somewhere in the army unit a cell of Russian nationalists was opened and appropriate measures were taken against the military personnel. And in parallel - the theme of the emergence of the "White Aryan Brotherhood" in prisons. And with some delay on the VO - something like an insistent "Fascism will not work!" One with the other - fit? After all, if you say bluntly: "Russians, don't you dare raise your head!" - I suppose the roar will rise.
        1. 0
          18 January 2019 22: 19
          After all, if you say bluntly: "Russians, don't you dare raise your head!" - I suppose the roar will rise.

          Sometimes you come to the conclusion that "Russians" in Russia are already a forbidden word (((
      2. 0
        18 January 2019 12: 11
        BAI thanks for the photo. Could not find.
      3. -2
        18 January 2019 19: 26
        The photo is not complete, clipping, in full there should be a man and a woman with a child sitting down even further. There was a lot of controversy over this photo (the Germans themselves had big discussions), - the jacket was not at the right time, which was almost impossible for the Germans (small), the cap was not worn in "German", more in a foreign way (possibly in the manner of the Balkan military) , breeches and boots of a non-German model, etc. ... Possibly some kind of collaborator from national connections. I do not defend the Germans, I just remind the facts related to this photo ... According to the article - what is the author with such persistence and labor expenditures trying to achieve - the revival of the "cold" war with the Europeans? To promote the old theme of wartime crimes on the territory of the USSR. But then there will immediately be questions about the crimes of the NKVD, and the Red Army immediately after the war in the territories of Eastern Europe, and they are also considerable, we just do not know about them. but the injured party has not forgotten and will also remember everything ... It seems that the author not only does not understand the consequences of his actions, but is moving to the level of directed provocations. God forbid that he did not understand his actions, otherwise an obvious hidden enemy ... The true saying, "Our own, worse than the enemy" .. WWII is already the history of the last century, and treats like history, these are the patterns, because we do not treat the French for 1812, although Moscow was burned ...
        1. -1
          18 January 2019 22: 27
          ... It seems that the author not only does not understand the consequences of his actions, but moves to the level of directed provocations. God forbid that he did not understand his actions, otherwise an obvious hidden enemy ... The true saying, "Our own, worse than the enemy" .. WWII is already the history of the last century, and it treats like history, such are the patterns, after all we do not treat the French for 1812, although Moscow was burned ...

          Maybe ask for forgiveness and repent?
          If the author, who fights against fascism, is a "hidden enemy" for you, then you are dissembling. I think You he is not a hidden, but an absolutely obvious enemy. And he is not "your" to you, do not juggle with sayings.
          He You, as I see it, a stranger.
          And I, for one, too.
          And you do not urge us to repent. It is better to whine quietly, in sadness that did not work out You drink bavarian! ..
          1. +1
            18 January 2019 23: 07
            Here fascism is confused with German National Socialism, showing complete ignorance, and therefore their level of knowledge and understanding of the facts .. The Bolsheviks were not able to advocate propaganda against the socialist German state, and they called the German National Socialists an alien name to them, deceivingly ranked the Nazis . Hitler never called his party, movement and state fascist, only the National Socialist, the National Socialist Workers' Party of Germany ... You also need to know the fascist movement, and the actions they performed, the consequences, which are completely different from the German National Socialists. To attribute the crimes of German National Socialists to the Nazis is also complete illiteracy. We have a sad picture of a silly illiterate society that does not even distinguish between simple things, but according to the utterly loaded propaganda from the PPR, as a politically illiterate society, this is the only way to state the state of affairs ... Crimes of the National Socialists are enormous, but the fascists added very much to this few, and then for historical reasons. I do not whitewash anyone, only I need to know and understand the truthful and factual essence, which is what ...
            1. +1
              18 January 2019 23: 35
              Fascism is confused with German National Socialism, showing complete ignorance

              Laundering a black male?
              I was not mistaken in you. Sorry, but I have no desire to communicate with the fascist.
              I would love to describe you as you deserve it, but, unfortunately, the rules of the site do not allow this.

              And yes, my ancestors drove into the earth those human dregs (which you, as I look, love and protect so reverently), who came to us in the 41st with a monstrous, cruel, war. AND driven in. I don’t understand who is a Nazi and who is a fascist.
              1. 0
                19 January 2019 12: 19
                I also do not like fascists and do not sympathize in any way. The problem is the illiteracy of our society, and you are for complete illiteracy, (you did not understand the early comment). As one well-known classic said: studies, studies, studies, so that stupidities with such confidence not to repeat ....
  14. +1
    18 January 2019 12: 27
    But even in a letter to the president, yes, the president of Russia himself, the people who signed him ... lie!

    They lie because they feel sho nakosyachili, stingy, I followed the link to read the letter to the President and for good reason !:
    Unscrupulous publications and channels were released between 2017 and 2018. a whole series of biased and biased materials discrediting the honor and dignity of the citizens of the city of military prowess, not reporting to themselves that they contribute to the organization of a split in society, the formation of "maidan" moods among citizens and provoking an international scandal.

    Appreciate what the syllable is, in the wickedness of the day, here are the bugs! Although about Maidan it was necessary to stamp in the end, Schaub was sharpened in the memory of those reading from the Presidential Administration, inexperienced or what? bully
    1. +1
      19 January 2019 11: 50
      The letter was composed not by pocket activists whose names are under the letter. This was written by slammers who consider themselves journalists. Reptiles are reptiles.
  15. +8
    18 January 2019 13: 09
    Rossosh is not the only place where monuments are erected to the invaders. Monuments to Czech legionnaires are erected on the Transsib, who have flooded Siberia with the blood of Siberians. After meeting with Putin, Czech President Zeman went to the opening of such a monument. So this INFECTION is spreading across Russia slowly but steadily. Putin probably knows what the legionnaires were, but he didn’t show this to Zeman either. So the guarantor does not at all guarantee the rewriting of history for the sake of the "partners", although at every corner it talks about the fight against rewriting history. am
  16. +10
    18 January 2019 13: 32
    On behalf of the front-line nurse Adonkina Evdokia Vasilievna, who fought on the Don near her native village, now living in our city of Rossosh and on behalf of the former juvenile prisoners of the Italian fascist concentration camp, as well as from a group of caring citizens of the city, I want to express my gratitude to the Military Review Portal and personally to Roman Skomorokhov and Roman Krivov for honest reporting on the shame of our former and current officials. Of the twenty-two nurses, 18 years old, in six months of battles, only eight survived and all were fired due to serious wounds. This short video is about them https://yadi.sk/i/fUqddSbbyB3tV The officials allowed their killers to erect a monument and continue to protect it. Truth and Law must defeat obscurantism under the guise of "friendship" and false "repentance". Good luck to the Portal and good luck to the journalists. Together we are strong.
  17. +6
    18 January 2019 14: 51
    The Great Patriotic War leaves us farther and farther away. But the psychology of traitors does not disappear. This is human psychology because of fear of submission to brute force or for the material benefits of betraying their homeland. Who can consciously explain to these people what genocide is if they simply simply quietly sterilize his wife in a clinic, while speaking about caring for her health, and he himself dies from American American alcohol or Italian liquor? The task is completed, the man whose ancestors lived on this earth for centuries, turned out to be the final link in this chain, his descendants will not live here. How to explain this to people? How to learn to be afraid of Danians who bring gifts, and then destroy everyone indiscriminately? It is a difficult task until, as in 1812 and 1941-1942, people will understand that they will either deal with the invaders, destroy them, or the invaders will destroy them. However, the tactics of the invaders has changed, the strategy is not. They use the kindness and forgiveness of our people, but there is only one thing behind it - its exclusion from history, past and future.
    The conclusion is this: the Great Patriotic War, unfortunately, is not over, the tactics of the European countries have changed to seize the territory of Russia and the destruction or assimilation of the people inhabiting it. Many do not want to see this, do not understand or have a mercantile interest. The future is sad if you do not understand the essence of what is happening. Then a repeat of 1991 is inevitable. Isn't it time to throw off your rose-colored glasses and look at foreign "partners" without these glasses.
  18. -1
    18 January 2019 15: 14
    But what about our monuments abroad?
    1. 0
      18 January 2019 22: 58
      For example, in Poland?
      And let me remind you - we winning country.
      Or does it already mean nothing?
      Quote: Summer Resident452
      But what about our monuments abroad?
      1. 0
        2 June 2019 10: 08
        Of course, calling Russia a winner country is essentially wrong. And in a moral sense, it is a cynical, savory spit on the graves of those tens of millions who gave their lives for the shameless "greatness" of this country.

        Russia has always, hundreds of years of its history, had its so-called "greatness" - it seized new territories, won victories - precisely due to the fact that, among other wealth of the country, such as forests, seas, gold, oil, gas ... had such a resource as a human. Extremely cheap, whose lives were worthless, in the amount of tens of millions of people.

        Serfs, lackeys, cannon fodder ... It was due to this resource that the country, that is, the absolute minority of its population - the masters, boyars, power ... - practiced their international adventures. And while they were lucky, Russia really grew, "magnified".

        The last major such adventure was the Second World War unleashed by the Soviet regime. From which the country barely emerged victorious, while losing tens of millions of its population. She won by throwing corpses at the enemy. With losses of 7: 1 in relation to the losses of the enemy. It ended as shamefully as it began in 1939 - again not by any "liberation" of Europe, as false Soviet propaganda had claimed for many years, but by the occupation of Europe until the 90s. When - at the first opportunity - the inhabitants of the respective countries finally kicked the Soviets out of their territories.

        Pyrrhic victory. IN many respects. The main thing is that as a result of it (the unleashed war, the unashamedly high price of victory in it and other Soviet crimes), by the end of the 80s, by our time, the quality of the population has fallen to an extremely low level. People finally entrenched at its core - serfs, lackeys, resources for master's amusements and adventures. People - completely agree with such a function. People - in their minds finally resigned and agreed with this quality.

        Many are surprised at the bestial attitude of Russians towards themselves. And there is nothing to be surprised at. This has always been the case. Always, absolutely all the "achievements" of the country were carried out at the expense of merciless exploitation, humiliation of millions of Russian people, the destruction of millions of Russian people. Russian people - willing to their own poverty, humiliation for the sake of "the greatness of the country" (to satisfy the vanity of their masters). Greatness - almost always consisted in the realization of the desire to spoil the world, to snatch at the expense of a neighbor. The continuity of servile convictions is ensured by the appropriate education of successive generations. Therefore, the mentality I described, the Russian national character, servility, the desire to please the owner, the authorities, as the basis of Russian "greatness" - continue to exist today. There is nothing to be surprised at.
  19. +1
    18 January 2019 16: 39
    It's time to end up with this occupation administration. Or, as Christ said, one must judge by deeds, not by words. And then in words a patriot, but on business a policeman.
  20. +2
    18 January 2019 16: 41
    It is quite possible that what is stated in the letter will find understanding, for the authorities hang up memorial plaques to Mannerheim. Why is it impossible to erect a monument to the Italians in Rossosh? After all, we have a small power looks at a big one from time immemorial. And the Italians are now "partners". Fortunately, they did not commit atrocities during the war like the Hungarians, whom the author also mentioned.
    1. +1
      19 January 2019 11: 47
      The myth that they did not commit atrocities has been introduced in Rossosh for about 30 years. We didn’t want to arrange a showdown, but they began to raise their feathered warriors to the rank of "heroes" and erect monuments to them. But we had at our disposal the original 1943 folder of evidence of executions, atrocities and robberies in the neighboring Olkhovatsky district, how ears, noses were cut, burned and buried alive. Pure humanoids. And even if the Italians were slightly smaller animals than the Hungarians, this does not mean that they deserved honors on our land. Or am I wrong?
  21. +4
    18 January 2019 16: 52
    Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
    No demagoguery. You would speak out on a specific occasion, and your attitude towards the government and the president does not play a role here. Fascism is creeping or it is necessary to stop on the approaches or we plunge into bloody showdowns again. That is the question.

    In fact, why demagoguery? The comrade simply made it clear that the problem is much wider. Of course, this issue can be resolved in a single city when it gains public resonance, but such problems will constantly arise in the regions until state policies based on anti-Sovietism and anti-communism change! sad
  22. +4
    18 January 2019 19: 11
    And the prosecutor Rossosh, for an hour, did not go to Italy to rest on favorable terms?
  23. +5
    18 January 2019 21: 27
    Respect to the author. Thoroughly and consistently muzzle on the table of the glamorous headquarters. With help documents and checks. 5+
  24. +1
    19 January 2019 17: 23
    “The opinion of the Rossoshan public is to leave alone a memorial sign, cowards and villains are fighting with bones and monuments.”

    The opinion of the Rossoshan "public" is very clear! This is a local bureaucratic .... my, obviously, has settled down very well, Italian sponsors, he runs back and forth to Italy with all his relatives, arranges receptions here and, probably, not without using the already meager local funds and does not want to lose this feeder!
  25. +1
    19 January 2019 18: 50
    You know, even now a thought sometimes creeps in: maybe it is worth giving up the topic?

    Novel, by no means !!!!!!
  26. +2
    19 January 2019 19: 03
    "An open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, most imperialist elements of finance capital"

    We must remember very well what fascism is. Then no one will even have a thought about something: "forgotten, the matter is past," or about the so-called. "reconciliation"
  27. 0
    19 January 2019 19: 54
    A typical Overton Window — first, monuments to the Russian murderers, then Kolya from Urengoy, to neighbors and tribalt torchlight processions — in the United States and Ukraine vote against the resolution banning the glorification of Nazism fascism — will they go on to parade on May 9, like we are victims too? No words, one mate. The memorial is optically reminiscent of the Masonic eye - that’s what it is, there are hidden admirers of Nazism and fascism.
    1. 0
      2 June 2019 10: 15
      You turned everything upside down. (Are you lying?) Nobody erects monuments to any "killers". Schoolboy Nikolai - at his age, he understands this. Unlike you. And, of course, neither the United States nor Ukraine voted for any "glorification of fascism".
  28. 0
    20 January 2019 12: 15
    Quote: Separ DNR
    Quote: Roman Skomorhov
    Some people find it unpleasant that cemeteries of Hungarians, Germans and Italians exist like this. Well maintained such.

    But: we, Russians, do not fight with the dead. The Hungarian government contains (albeit with our hands) the cemeteries of its soldiers. And there is nothing wrong with that. All within the framework of a bilateral intergovernmental agreement on the maintenance and care of war graves.

    So let the Hungarian warriors lie under marble slabs, in a rather beautiful corner of the Don's bend.

    https://topwar.ru/120039-o-vengrah-kotoryh-pod-voronezhem-ne-brali-v-plen.html

    Two articles on the same subject as two sides of the same coin. Which of them is true is difficult to judge on the basis of the apparent inconsistency of the views of the author.
    Confusion and reeling in thoughts ...

    And this is not the first time. Stability, you don’t panim .... winked
  29. 0
    20 January 2019 12: 18
    Fascist fans turned to Putin for protection
    Sacramental question - And why did they decide to turn to him for protection precisely with this problem? winked
    1. 0
      14 May 2020 18: 59
      There is a well-known proverb about birds ...
  30. 0
    23 January 2019 04: 22
    RF, as a state, control mechanism, against Russians
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  32. 0
    14 May 2020 21: 55
    Quote: lelik613
    There is a well-known proverb about birds ...

    Or about fishermen? winked