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Who will replace the US in Afghanistan?

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There is an opinionthat the Taliban’s coming to power in Afghanistan is only a matter of time, since the Taliban are the only real power in the country that “the current Afghan government cannot withstand either politically or militarily”. And it cannot be said that for the last ten years the Americans did not realize that they are very far from victory over the Taliban.



4 May 2012 Chairman of the Special Committee on Intelligence of the US House of Representatives Mike Rogers said that intelligence and the armed forces of America differ greatly in their assessments of the Afghan situation. In early May, Rogers met with the command of the US military contingent stationed in Afghanistan, representatives of the US intelligence services and the leadership of the embassy in Kabul. is he сказал: “The most significant thing that I learned from this trip is that there is a huge difference between the words of our military and our intelligence community as to what they think is the state of affairs.” The US Armed Forces, he said, report that in open confrontation the Taliban have never won the coalition forces - and in their victories they see reason for optimism. However, American intelligence states, according to M. Rogers, that the Taliban change tactics, avoid losses and recruit supporters among the population. US intelligence agencies, Rogers stressed, believe that "today the Taliban is stronger than it was even a couple of years ago." Finally, according to the findings of the American intelligence, the Taliban, as before, set themselves a "clear political goal: they want to rule the country, they want to return" to power in the country.

Online multiply assumptionsthat the US concluded a strategic partnership agreement with Karzai not for the sake of military-economic assistance, but with the goal of maintaining control of the actions of the Taliban in Afghanistan and redirecting those same actions to Iran and Pakistan, and at the same time against Russia - by Islamizing the CSTO members: Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan. According to this “scenario”, Uzbekistan will also be involved: in exchange for recognition by the West of the “democracy” of the Karimov government, this country will be chosen as a base to support the American military presence in Afghanistan.

As for Uzbekistan, Karimov, who recently met with Vladimir Putin, stressed that the withdrawal of foreign troops from Afghanistan would increase the threat of the development of terrorism and drug trafficking. is he сказал: “Can the situation change if the number of troops decreases, the financing of those operations and everything related to the pacification of Afghanistan, the solution of issues of socio-economic order and so on will decrease? If this problem is not solved, do not put it in full nakedness, in such a way as it really is, it seems to me that much will be revealed a little later, we will simply miss the time. ”

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin answered: “There is something to think about, because all this is happening in close proximity to our borders.”

Therefore, we can assume that Russia on the Afghan frontier will cooperate with the United States and NATO, and the total Islamization of the region in order to ruin Russia is only the fruit of unlimited imagination.

There is an interesting point of view belonging to Andrei Kortunov, Director General of the Russian Council on International Affairs. According to his opinion, Russia with the aim of maintaining stability in the region can agree with the Taliban:

“The risks of instability are increasing, but in fairness it should be noted that not everything is so simple. If you look at what was under the Taliban before the American troops entered Afghanistan with regard to the export of drugs to Russia, to Europe, and what happened after Karzai came to power in Afghanistan on American bayonets, then for Our situation has worsened, and very significantly, literally an order of magnitude.

The Taliban fought against poppy crops, for them it was a problem that they were trying to solve. Statistics show that at least, but in general, under the Taliban, this situation was under control. And now critics can rightly say that the Americans and their NATO colleagues are engaged in connivance. In the name of maintaining stability in Kabul, they actually allow these combat commanders, the people who control individual regions of the country, to produce opiates in unmeasured quantities, and these opiates then go through Central Asia to Russia.

I think that this point of view has the right to exist, that if we agree with the Taliban that they would be able to seriously tackle the drug problem, then maybe the situation for us will not deteriorate so fundamentally. But this is a question that, of course, remains the subject of discussion. ”

Meanwhile, America represented by Pentagon chief Leon Panetta requiresfor Pakistan to take over the Taliban militants - for now, God forbid, Washington did not run out of patience. Well, yes: Washington needs to deal with formidable China, and then get distracted by Pakistan and Afghanistan. Nobody wants to help the great democratic America in the fight against terrorism!

India must, too according to Panetta, increase your role in Afghanistan. She has already given 2 billion dollars to this country, starting with the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, and India is also engaged in the preparation of the Afghan security forces. Now that America is leaving, India is likely to expand aid to Afghanistan. At least Washington will insist on it.

Panetta asks for Afghan help from the Russians. By the way, Russians, as is customary after the Russian-Chinese UN veto on Syria, are associated by the Americans with the Chinese. Therefore, the United States appeals at the same time to them. When America leaves Afghanistan, Moscow and Beijing will have to take part in financing security in this country - Secretary General of the Alliance Anders Fogh Rasmussen told a press conference in Brussels at the end of the Russia-NATO Council meeting on April 19. Sergey Lavrov did not give specific response to this statement.

However, the American contingent is not quite leaving Afghanistan. The US military announced this last year, “celebrating” the 10 anniversary of the antiterrorist operation in Afghanistan. Commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan, General John Allen said in early October that US troops will remain in Afghanistan after the 2014 year.

A. Shustov пишет: “Separate units of the US Army will begin withdrawing from Afghanistan later this year. However, the withdrawal will not be completed by 2014. According to the commander of the coalition forces in Afghanistan, General David Petraeus, the joint US-Afghan bases will remain, with the help of which the US will train, advise and support local armed forces. Thus, the United States will try to avoid the fall of the regime created by H. Karzai, as happened with the President of Afghanistan M. Najibulla soon after the departure of the Soviet army, and will try to keep their military presence in this country as long as possible. ”

Until 2024, the year in Afghanistan will be until 20.000 US MILITARY.

There is nothing surprising in that. The Americans will try to prevent Afghanistan from completely falling under the control of the Taliban - no matter what they write to the media - including the Taliban of Pakistani dislocation. Pakistan is clearly counting on the Americans ’early departure from Afghanistan and the Taliban coming to power in Kabul. That is why Panetta threatened Pakistan with the fact that the States, they say, will soon burst of patience ... But most likely the US will burst elsewhere: their guts are in control of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and between cases they still have to go to Syria in the ATR. So the Pentagon is asking for help.

Hiraet former world hegemon.

If Washington spends now on the Afghan "operation" 110-120 billion dollars a yearthen, after 2014, it is going to spend the entire 2,7 billion for these purposes.

2001 to 2011 Pentagon budget has been cut by 450 billion. Still almost on 500 billion it is planned to be reduced in ten years, starting with the 2012 year. And if the United States will strengthen its military power in the APR, then somewhere it will be necessary and weaken this very power. This is “somewhere” - just Afghanistan. But of course, the United States is not going to completely withdraw from there. And there are good reasons for this.

In October, 2011, the head of the Federal Drug Control Service, Viktor Ivanov summed up American activity in Afghanistan: “I would name three main results. The first is a phenomenal increase in drug production, more than 40 times, the second is the militarization of the region. Today in Afghanistan there are over 150 thousands of foreign troops and a significant number of military bases. And the third result is a humanitarian catastrophe, political instability and expanded reproduction of the militants. ”

Observed Oleg Chuvakin
- especially for topwar.ru
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  1. Nursultan
    Nursultan 13 June 2012 07: 56
    +7
    all the same, the amers recognized that they were no use and that they simply worsened everything to the extreme.
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 13 June 2012 08: 05
      +12
      Quote: Nursultan
      all the same, the amers recognized that they were no use and that they simply worsened everything to the extreme.

      Something I did not see from the article that the amers recognized it. It's just that they have a clear policy of landing in this village ... about the next "extreme" with the subsequent dumping of all expenses and losses on it, and they don't care who it is if India, Pakistan or Russia. The main thing for us is not to get involved in this adventure. It is easier to negotiate with the Taliban and, of course, in spite of any "agreements" to strengthen the borders.
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 13 June 2012 08: 13
        +7
        Quote: Aleksey67
        Something I did not see from the article that the amers recognized this

        Alex, welcome! Which disappeared? Not only as in a country residence was delayed. On the topic, I can only say that the Americans never recognize the fact of defeat from the Taliban, but it does exist. During the US stay in Afghanistan, the situation with drugs worsened many times, if not more. As for the agreements with the Taliban, it certainly makes sense, but they are unlikely to make any deals for no reason. Afghanistan lived its entire history through wars.
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 13 June 2012 08: 26
          +4
          Quote: Tersky
          On the topic, I can only say that the Americans never recognize the fact of defeat from the Taliban, but it does exist.

          Hello, hello. I rested in nature. And on the topic, Americans will never admit defeat from anyone, no matter how obvious and undeniable it was. Everything is used, distortion of data on losses, bribery, information war. At the same time, one should not forget how actively falsification of history is going on.
          1. Che
            Che 13 June 2012 08: 34
            +3
            Aleksey67,
            In the brain they got in Korea and Vietnam, they will still get it if it seemed little. wassat
    2. Dmitriy69
      Dmitriy69 13 June 2012 08: 11
      +5
      Another thing is ridiculous, they got in, they did things, and now they offer us to disentangle.
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 13 June 2012 08: 19
        0
        Quote: Dmitriy69

        Another thing is ridiculous, they got in, they did things, and now they offer us to disentangle.

        There’s not much laugh here! Having created controlled chaos, they manipulate the country to their advantage. I won’t be surprised if America gets its share from the sale of drugs! But drugs are not the main thing. The main thing is the necessary control over a strategically important country.
        1. RUSmen
          RUSmen 13 June 2012 11: 57
          +2
          Do not be surprised !? From the sale of drugs, many generals became millionaires and not only generals, this fact has long ago crawled out. In general, amers surround Russia and China and see terrorism where our interests appear (oil, gas, etc.). Note there is no terror in Kuwait, the UAE, etc. It will be fun if amers find nuclear-armed terrorists on the northern shelf. wink wassat lol
      2. esaul
        esaul 13 June 2012 08: 27
        +5
        Greetings to all of you guys! "By nature" the mattress-mates believed so much in their exclusivity and in the mental inferiority of other peoples that "with a blue eye" they begin to teach Russia and China how to behave with Afgan! To this is also mixed with a fair amount of shamelessness and arrogance, and that's it - the recipes for building peace on the planet have been cooked up in the American way!
        I agree with the opinion that we should in no case climb there on the same principles as minke whales.
    3. andrey586
      andrey586 13 June 2012 09: 18
      0
      Al Qaeda - US Deputy Chief
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 13 June 2012 12: 04
        +1
        You are mistaken, America has long gone nowhere, it remains, even with external signs of leaving !!!! Remember the song of the cat Basilio and the fox Alice - as long as there are fools in the world, we must live by hand as a deceit, and also as long as the greedy people are around, we will not lose our luck. Leave the base and buy the national elite, that's all! By the way, this also refers to us, we must start thinking!
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus 13 June 2012 12: 25
        +1
        Quote: andrey586
        Al Qaeda - US Deputy Chief

        This is not a deputy, this is a carefully cherished uproot of the CIA, on which you can hang all your provocations from attacks on embassies to the destruction of the WTC towers. It’s very convenient to blame any regime in connection with Al Qaeda in order to eliminate unwanted leaders under the guise of fighting international terrorism. Although everyone knows that the most important international terrorist is the United States.
        1. andrey586
          andrey586 13 June 2012 16: 11
          0
          lewerlin53rus
          I know that al-Qaeda is raising the CIA, I meant that the amers will leave Afghanistan al-Qaida, and through this organization they will manage the processes in the country
    4. Ataturk
      Ataturk 13 June 2012 09: 59
      +7
      Dear, Americans are made of such a variety to clearly express who they are, I will try to give you examples.

      1.Americans sound about one thing and do another.
      2. Americans knowing that 2 + 2 will be 4, they will start to say 5 and if you do not agree, then they will force you to agree.
      3. They are not to leave the plantation of heroin, or rather. a drug farm called Afghanistan, quit and quit like that.

      So I do not believe them. This Afghanistan brings them billions .... In this war, if they had not earned, they would have long since gone.

      Heads of factories that produce military equipment and everything for the army. they earned in this war and earn.

      Bankers who borrowed to conduct this war, earned? Earn !!!

      Those who are involved with drugs earn in this war? Earn money.

      So where do they go? Nowhere !!! They are for a long time in Afghanistan !!!
      1. re321
        re321 13 June 2012 12: 38
        +3
        Ahah, in Russia, in addition to Lavrov, there are two more main "diplomats" - the medical doctor Onishchenko and the main "supervisor" for drugs Ivanov laughing Nowhere in the civilized world is there anything like it, but in Russia there is ... Yes, and until recently there was another "geopolitician" Luzhkov, who now lives in this most notorious West on a permanent basis and moved all his money there, away from his homeland laughing
        According to the article: unfortunately, it is a very superficial attempt to analyze in isolation from the reality of what is happening in Afghanistan. No deep and hidden processes are shown. Some official reports of American figures and their own "reflections" on a free topic.
        I would like more serious articles on the site and, accordingly, more interesting and informative authors good
    5. rofolak
      rofolak 14 June 2012 20: 19
      0
      Their task is to drive drugs to Europe, they cope. So what is their problem, everything is fine with them, poppy plantations are growing. This USSR built schools, el. station. And they don’t need to develop the country, they need heroin. That is the difference! UNDERSTAND! The USSR and the USA initially have different goals.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 03
    +6
    20 thousand soldiers, enough to protect poppy fields. There is nothing to think here, to close the border on 100 constipation and let them live as they want. Well, or at least as they give.
    1. Tersky
      Tersky 13 June 2012 08: 17
      +10
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      20 thousand soldiers, enough to protect poppy fields.

      Sasha, greetings! The border will have to be closed anyway, the only question is what and by whom. Now amers will begin intensive processing of the leaders of Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, in one word, those who easily accept financial "help", and Russia will have to lock its borders directly and not its neighbors.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 June 2012 08: 33
        +4
        Hi Victor, ours has to close, to whom else. Everything, as always, does not have to rely on bays.
        1. Goga
          Goga 13 June 2012 09: 12
          +5
          Victor, Alexander, Greetings! What is considered a "loss" or "defeat" of mattress toppers? They achieved just their true goals - Afghan reliably entered the zone of "controlled chaos" from Morocco to Tibet, - Russia was flooded with drugs, they have air bases in the center of Asia (20 fighters are enough to protect them) - well, what a failure of the US talk here?
          And we will have to close the border with our breasts, but where? On Pyanj or near Chelyabinsk and Orenburg? This is a difficult question, we only lack the "second Afghan" now ... No.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 13 June 2012 09: 30
            +3
            Quote: Gogh
            we have to close the border with our breasts, but only where?

            Hello, Igor! In Kazakhstan ... and in front of Kazakhstan. Putting money into Uzbekistan and Tajikistan is useless ...
            1. Goga
              Goga 13 June 2012 12: 59
              +2
              Tersky - Hello, Victor, - quote - "... before Kazakhstan" - of course, together with them - our people, closest allies - from the common misfortune and fight back only together.
          2. yards
            yards 13 June 2012 13: 18
            +1
            Goga
            absolutely true, Americans carry out all their tasks in Afghanistan with some success, however, local patriots want to see a completely different laughing
            To the above you should add:
            - the narco-threat from Afghan heroin for Pakistan, Iran and China itself - which the United States, as well as the Soviet Union, should simply thank for the supply of weapons to the Afghan mujahideen and, accordingly, the deaths of its citizens
            - pitting among themselves various influence groups in Afghanistan itself and, accordingly, endless fratricide and blood feud
            - gaining experience in fighting and positions in the ranks of the mujahideen of American intelligence and special forces
            - participation in the distribution of it is not clear where "heroin" dollars in billions of dollars
            - Separately, it is worth mentioning the large and important work of American PMCs in Afghanistan.
            And the question naturally arises - where will Russia literally defend its border: on the Panj or near Chelyabinsk? ...
        2. esaul
          esaul 13 June 2012 09: 59
          0
          Sasha, welcome. You're right. In the course of Russia, it is forced, contrary to its desire, but in order to prevent the Taliban from expanding into the territory of the Asian republics (from where it is within easy reach of Russia), to harness this yoke in some form. You did not have to rely on the bays and do not have to - they are too tied up with drugs (like Tajiks) or promises of goodies (like Uzbeks and the wise Nazarbayev).
      2. baron.nn
        baron.nn 13 June 2012 10: 40
        0
        Whatever one may do, but it is necessary to equip the Russian border. It's time to end illegal migration! Zadolbalo! In Nizhny Novgorod, on the playground, I walk with my son, surrounded by a whole "kindergarten" of Uzbeks, and they are accompanied by two women in their headscarves ... Not nice ...
    2. baron.nn
      baron.nn 13 June 2012 10: 37
      +2
      and it would not be bad to spray their poppy fields with chemicals from the air. Also without asking how they fly to Pakistan ...
      1. 755962
        755962 13 June 2012 16: 39
        0
        Quote: baron.nn
        spray their poppy fields with chemicals from the air. Also without asking

        Yes, to launch the UAV with some kind of nasty. So instead of hoes they will take up the "Kalash" and again jolly. They don't know anything except poppy.
  3. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet 13 June 2012 08: 03
    0
    They just want you to think so. If they want to withdraw contingent by 2014, then the issues of Iran and Syria should be resolved by this time, and even earlier, much earlier. And look how much drug trafficking has increased ...
  4. Trofimov174
    Trofimov174 13 June 2012 08: 22
    +3
    In one way or another, the SCO should take up the matter, so that from countless meetings, meetings and meetings, it will take on a real cause that would demonstrate the capabilities of this organization and, if successful, would help expand its influence.
  5. Odinplys
    Odinplys 13 June 2012 08: 24
    +6
    =Who will replace the USA in Afghanistan?=

    The Talibs will not be replaced by anyone ... they were and will be ... Russia certainly has nothing to do there ... Afghanistan can be controlled through Iran ...
    God forbid to stick into this sewer ourselves ... let the Zionists disentangle themselves ...
  6. Che
    Che 13 June 2012 08: 27
    +2
    Initially, what the fuck freaks climbed there. Almighty Goodwin. The eggs were unscrewed. Satisfied.
  7. Ridder
    Ridder 13 June 2012 08: 33
    +2
    Yes, they will not withdraw their aircraft from Afghanistan, dust in the eyes. Afghanistan is of strategic importance to the United States. Look at the map with whom it borders and you will understand everything.
    1. Averias
      Averias 13 June 2012 09: 51
      0
      Many countries have long been talking about the withdrawal of their forces from Afghanistan, and this is money in the first place. So the United States began to hysteria about this, because out of pocket it is not a pleasure to pay.
      1. baron.nn
        baron.nn 13 June 2012 10: 46
        0
        They will earn more in Afghanistan ... The drug business is a huge market ...
  8. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 13 June 2012 09: 07
    +3
    They were not cut out there just because the Yankees were collaborating with drug producers. Start fighting the poppy farmers, tryndets to their contingent.
    1. kotdavin4i
      kotdavin4i 13 June 2012 09: 10
      +4
      They not only cooperate with them - they clearly patronize them. guard against the Taliban. and export. they get good interest for this.
    2. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 13 June 2012 10: 52
      +1
      If the amers wanted to wage a merciless war there, there would not be a single Afghan, nor women, nor children. The same applies to the USSR. an Afghan veteran is working at our company, so he said that if they had given the order to destroy everyone and everything there, then in 1-2 years the war would have ended.
  9. alps
    alps 13 June 2012 09: 29
    +3
    I don’t understand why the Russian leadership does not support the Taliban, because our vital interest in Afghanistan is drugs, or rather, its absence, and as you know, with the Taliban, the number of poppies and others like them has fallen sharply, so why not help them?
    1. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 13 June 2012 09: 32
      +1
      Quote: alps
      I do not understand why the Russian leadership does not support the Taliban

      The Taliban are too actively "climbing" into Central Asia, and Russia is not profitable for such a spread of radicalism to its borders.
    2. Averias
      Averias 13 June 2012 09: 49
      0
      The Taliban have long been fed with drug trafficking, the times when they were the opponents of drugs were over.
      1. alps
        alps 13 June 2012 10: 39
        0
        What has changed ?
  10. Deniska999
    Deniska999 13 June 2012 09: 32
    0
    Moreover, Russia is not far, why should they withdraw the army? Control over the east of the CIS.
  11. Averias
    Averias 13 June 2012 09: 48
    0
    A good mine with a bad game. Honestly, they screwed up - they can’t. So they make a knight's move, they say we did our best (stabilized and increased drug trafficking, ruined a bunch of civilians, but we couldn’t take the Taliban under control), so we have nothing to do here. But to leave just so unkind, that is what India is saying, render such financial assistance. And not only India. And where will this money go? guess three times :)) And they always have it. Shit shame and disentangle others. This is similar to how the Europe Stabilization Fund collected - all countries gave money and the United States only expressed concern and regret. Here it is the real help of the star-strikers. And so it is everywhere. Therefore, they tried to drag as many countries as possible into Afghanistan so that they would not spend money. Rednecks in one word.
  12. Gavrilon
    Gavrilon 13 June 2012 10: 02
    +2
    Thin game is scheduled gentlemen !!! Helping the Taliban lose world positions as accomplices of terror. Helping the US get not frail drug trafficking. It is necessary to dodge beautifully and, against the backdrop of supporting the rule of law, bring the right people to power. SVR is capable of this and is probably already nimble on both sides. We can only wait.
  13. welder
    welder 13 June 2012 10: 23
    0
    amers, as usual, we .... ut somewhere, and tidy up others .... not peasant tactics ... but they do it on purpose ... rotten
  14. wolverine7778
    wolverine7778 13 June 2012 10: 25
    +1
    set themselves a “clear political goal: they want to rule the country, they want to return” to power in the country.
    IMHO, the Taliban have the right to rule Afghanistan, if they really want it. The world community needs to give them a chance. Only the big question is whether they can build a self-sufficient and developed state without turning it into a terrorist nest. yes
  15. baron.nn
    baron.nn 13 June 2012 10: 35
    0
    Controlling Afghanistan by American forces is a strategic move to weaken Russia, and for one thing, Europe. In response, it would not be bad to "put things in order" in some Colombia in order to fill up all the states with cocaine!
  16. nnnnnnnnn
    nnnnnnnnn 13 June 2012 10: 36
    0
    There are many questions, but the answer lies in one thing before the occupation of Afghanistan, the Americans removed Ahmad Shah Masoud, who led the Northern Alliance and who was a respected leader among the people and who, in my opinion, could stop the current mess in Afghanistan. Also, do not forget that the support of the Northern Alliance was provided by Russia and its allies, and even in those difficult 90s for these countries. The events of September 11 in the United States carried out by Mossad and the CIA and a few days later al-Qaeda suicide bombers kill Ahmad Shah Masouda.
  17. Tirpitz
    Tirpitz 13 June 2012 10: 46
    +1
    Quote: Dmitriy69
    Another thing is ridiculous, they got in, they did things, and now they offer us to disentangle.

    It will be funny if ours agree.
  18. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 13 June 2012 10: 50
    +2
    Interesting analysis. I read the comments and came to the conclusion that the amers really achieved the necessary goals. The dollar is printed on drugs as before for oil. The presence of even a small contingent is a headache for everyone from Russia and China to Pakistan and India. And since Vashobkom gets the main profits, his "loyal vassals" are a little tired and are trying to gain a large share. You still have to negotiate. And you still have to print money to "bribe" the buys from the former Soviet republics, because you can get real assistance for the paper.
  19. Slavs69
    Slavs69 13 June 2012 12: 01
    +1
    Interesting article, but even more interesting komenty. The East is a delicate matter and not stepping on the same rake twice — this has to be managed.
  20. RUSmen
    RUSmen 13 June 2012 12: 23
    0
    If we deport all the guest workers back (to Central Asia), then the rulers of these countries will get pi ... special! So they are better off living peacefully with us than richly with amers. These are my conclusions from communicating with guest workers, and they do not like their rulers.
  21. Fost325
    Fost325 13 June 2012 12: 30
    +1
    Now the presence of NATO in Afghanistan will replace the Chechen special forces and the drug flow will go towards Europe, America, etc., and ... then ... it will be seen.
  22. Van
    Van 13 June 2012 12: 36
    +2
    If I’m not mistaken, the Taliban at one time already offered Russia cooperation against the West, and our middle fingers showed them how now they would not have to regret it what
  23. IRBIS
    IRBIS 13 June 2012 15: 24
    +1
    At present, the situation in the region for the United States is simply unique. The group that threw off Sadam smoothly moved to Afghanistan. It is economically and strategically inexpedient to withdraw it. This is when, and at what cost, it will be possible to substantiate like this under the side of Iran !! Everything was calculated earlier - the "Arab spring", the destabilization of the situation in the Middle East. Only while in Syria something is going tight. Russia and China clearly did not do what they had intended. They will not withdraw their troops anywhere! As long as there is a possibility of hitting Iran, the Americans will cling to Afghanistan with their teeth as if it were a bridgehead. They will come up with a thousand stories, provoke a bunch of situations in their favor. But Russia really needs to take measures now in accordance with the existing realities, and not with the promises and admonitions of the United States.
  24. 8 company
    8 company 13 June 2012 17: 00
    +4
    It is beneficial for Russia that the United States get bogged down in Afghanistan as deep as possible. So what Russia is doing right is that it sells US helicopters, provides a transportation base and traffic on its territory. Russia must adhere to the strategy that the United States adhered to in the first half of the 20th century: do not intervene in wars by ourselves, but engage in supply and trade with warring parties.
  25. Magadan
    Magadan 13 June 2012 17: 19
    +3
    In fact, thinking about normal relations with the Taliban is not so stupid.
    There is clearly something in this. I do not really understand in Islam and how bad Taliban Islam is, but is it not our business to impose religion on other nations? We are not Catholics to act with fire, sword and indulgences!
    Our huge plus in all this mess is that the Afghans remember the Shuravi not only as "invaders", they remember with gratitude who built them hydroelectric power stations, airports, schools and hospitals. Note that the Americans have been there for 11 years now and nothing has come from them except poppy fields. So we can improve relations if we approach this issue with wisdom.
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 13 June 2012 20: 47
      0
      Magadan,
      Nevertheless, the councils had a coherent policy of our country. Therefore, we became Shuravi in ​​Afghanistan, and the amers are P AND N D O S.
  26. vampik88
    vampik88 13 June 2012 18: 33
    +2
    so that there is no gerych need support for the Taliban !!!!!
    1. Oleg0705
      Oleg0705 13 June 2012 19: 26
      0
      Quote: vampik88
      Taliban support


      sorry just read your post our thoughts converged what
  27. Oleg0705
    Oleg0705 13 June 2012 18: 42
    +2
    Who will replace the USA in Afghanistan? Yes, those who were before them were the Taliban ..
  28. V world
    V world 13 June 2012 19: 43
    +1
    Where does the information come from that America is leaving Afghanistan because it cannot establish control and (or) the type is losing influence.
    Comp ... they wanted to the people of Afghanistan, Korzai, etc.!
    They partially leave because all their issues have been resolved:
    1. the production and marketing of drugs organized in volumes more than global consumption,
    2. replenishment and training of militants for the fight against "international terrorism" organized,
    3. The main fighting forces of the people strangled
    4. the sky of Russia for their flights opened
    5. according to some reports, under the pretext of withdrawing troops (through the territory of Russia) they will create a military base in the Baltic states.
    ... and there will be commercial military organizations and friends militants
  29. warrior
    warrior 13 June 2012 20: 12
    +2
    Rumors of NATO withdrawing from Afghanistan are greatly exaggerated.
    Today the Bulgarian government voted to withdraw the Bulgarian infantry battalion from Afghanistan (320 chicks). The battalion will be replaced by four crews of "consultants" from the special operations forces and the Planin battalion. The total number of "consultants" ... 320 people. The duration of the consultants' stay is not limited by anything.
    Another half-battalion was alerted for intervention in Herzegovina, Kosovo and generally against the Serbs. This is a response to the tricks of the Serbian president.
    Our things alone do not give. Apparently this is happening in all NATO countries.
  30. PSih2097
    PSih2097 13 June 2012 20: 34
    +3
    Who will replace the US in Afghanistan?

    Like who? The Taliban and Al Qaeda, as well as all sorts of Muslim brothers and others like them ...
  31. rainer
    rainer 14 June 2012 12: 11
    -1
    I somehow doubt that the amers in Afghanistan control something and control someone ... Rather, the locals will take advantage of the amers ...
  32. svetlana4821
    svetlana4821 15 June 2012 03: 15
    -1
    I'm just shocked! I just entered my data (name, surname and date of birth) here [http://tinyurl.com/sngsearch] and my occupation, hobbies, place of residence, contacts knocked me out. I thought it was just a coincidence, but then I checked on my friends, the same garbage !!! How is this possible?