Yoshihide Suga: Tokyo's position on the South Kuriles remains unchanged

The Japanese government will not change its position with regard to the peace treaty with Russia and the ownership of the "Northern Territories" (southern Kuril Islands). The position of Japan on this issue is unchanged, said Secretary General of the Cabinet of Ministers Yoshihide Suga, commenting on the talks held yesterday in Moscow between the foreign ministers of Japan and Russia, reports TASS.

At a press conference held in Tokyo after the talks, Suga, in response to a question from journalists about the ownership of the South Kuriles, said that the position of official Tokyo has not changed and remains unchanged. He explained that at the talks in Moscow, the parties had specified their views on the solution of the peace treaty issue and exchanged views, while agreeing not to disclose the content of the talks.

Meanwhile, the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Sergey Lavrov, on Monday, summing up the bilateral talks, said that the views on the resolution of the issue of a peace treaty between the countries are absolutely opposite. According to him, the main condition for the conclusion of a peace treaty between the countries of Russia is the recognition by Japan of the full sovereignty of Russia over the Kuril Islands and this is the "basic position" of Russia, which is "not negotiable."

At the same time, it is reported that the parties agreed to continue further negotiations based on the 1956 declaration of the year.

Comments

[Aleks2048]

They could talk about this on the phone ...

[Uncle lee]

Like that :

[AnpeL]

the only thing that can be conceded to the Japanese in concluding a peace treaty is the promise that in the next 5 years Russia will not discuss the location of the military base of a foreign state in Okinawa.

[ilimnoz]

it would be necessary to raise the issue of belonging to. Hokkaido they are with the northern territories and to them with the southern :))

[Evgeniy667b]

Madhouse! The country, which was defeated in World War 2, sets some other conditions !!! ??? When there was a holiday on their street, they did not think to talk to anyone, but did what they needed.

[Warrior with machine gun]

according to normal, there’s absolutely nothing to talk about with them, let the wasabis sit and eat spoons for courage, to ask the Amers from their territory, they were samurai, they became bitchy women with low social responsibility. Want islands, try to win back, only the dupa will break into such actions to go.

[keeper03]

Normal Japanese would have made themselves hara-kiri, and these are American puppets!

[Alexander Romanov]

, Russia designated Japan's recognition of Russia's full sovereignty over the Kuril Islands, and this is Russia's "basic position", which is "non-negotiable."
To the sect "Putin the traitor gave the Kuriles", as well as to his slaves Girkin, I express my most sincere and deepest condolences. Do not get out of grief guys. I understand that you are disappointed, but hold on. Maybe Putin will finally betray something and you will have a great holiday

[stalki]

Maybe Putin will finally betray something and you will have a great holiday

not in this life

[Yegorchik]

Quote: stalki

not in this life

Oh well, and 90 thousand square kilometers of the Barents Sea were not transferred to the Norwegians? But Putin didn’t convey the disputed territories to China, or has everyone already forgotten, the memory of a chicken? It’s just that the harsh reaction of society scared Putin’s pathological liar, and now he rolls around the islands.

[stalki]

Oh come on

Read the story in more detail, the humpbacked border on the Amur River was signed by the fir tree, and Putin couldn’t do anything, the agreement was concluded without him, it remains only to carry out the demorcation, which he did. And about the Barents, read here https://pikabu.ru/story/rossiya_otdala_daman_kitayu_i_shelf_barentseva_morya_norvegiiili_ne_otdala_1554093

[Gray brother]

Quote: stalki

Read the story in more detail,

Do you offer this to anyone? He is here to write, not read.

[Yegorchik]

Quote: stalki

and Putin couldn’t do anything already, the agreement was concluded without him, it remains only to carry out demorcation, which he did. And about the Barents, read here https://pikabu.ru/story/rossiya_otdala_daman_kitayu_i_shelf_barentseva_morya_norvegiiili_ne_otdala_1554093

How to steal the budget, to invent new taxes and to deprive people of pensions so Putin can, but how he could not defend the territory of Russia so cool excuse Well, of course, an article on a picabu with a tag politician is an argument, more than one normal person doesn’t enter a pickup tag in a politician tag , this is the estate of the Kremlin boats.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Egorchik

not one normal person doesn’t enter, this is the estate of the Kremlin bots.

"Normal person" - hahaha!

[72jora72]

and also to his servants Girkin, I express my most sincere and deepest condolences.

Well, why are you on the "icon" then so, on a grand scale how they heal such an injury

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: 72jora72

Well, why are you on the "icon" so, on a grand scale, how they will heal such a trauma

It's okay, they’re not at first. Sit in impotent rage

[Gray brother]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The sect "Putin the traitor gave the Kuriles", as well as his slaves Girkin,

You do not understand - it was Girkin who defended the Kuril Islands.

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do not swell with grief boys.

Yes, let thump faq too!

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

, Russia designated Japan's recognition of Russia's full sovereignty over the Kuril Islands, and this is Russia's "basic position", which is "non-negotiable."
To the sect "Putin the traitor gave the Kuriles", as well as to his slaves Girkin, I express my most sincere and deepest condolences. Do not get out of grief guys. I understand that you are disappointed, but hold on. Maybe Putin will finally betray something and you will have a great holiday

Did you yourself listen to what Girkin was talking about? A normal critic of the "Sect" would disassemble Girkin's speech by "bones" and would show the falsity and lack of logic in his words. But you had nothing to oppose to Girkin's logic. And therefore immediately hang the label - "Sect".
Girkin did not mention one more point, which also suggested to me that the transfer of the islands is planned. This is Lavrov's statement, in which he talks about the possible transfer of the islands "under certain conditions."
We will analyze on the shelves.
1. Putin's words that negotiations will continue on the basis of the 1956 Declaration
(The "declaration" refers to the transfer of Shikotan Island and the Habomai Ridge as a "goodwill gesture") By the way, it was Putin who introduced the "declaration" into the negotiation process, not the Japanese.
2. The words of Peskov, in which he cites as an example the solution of territorial disputes with China. (As you know, the islands on the Amur River were transferred to China)
3. Lavrov's words about the possible transfer of the islands "under certain conditions."
What conclusions can an unbiased person draw based on these three points? The answer is obvious to anyone other than you.
Quite a long time passed and the last statement of the Foreign Ministry followed. Everyone knows it, so I will not cite its text. It dotted the i's and calmed the public.
The question arises - why were all these three points mentioned by me necessary?
Why were all these words of Putin, Peskov, Lavrov needed?
The answer can be only one - to reveal public opinion. Rather, the degree of glow. And when they saw the actions in the Far East, in Moscow (well-done Girkin), by the way, we actively discussed this issue at VO, plus the impudent behavior of the Japanese, a step back was made. The latest statement by the Foreign Ministry was this step back.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

But you had nothing to oppose to Girkin's logic.

Sorry, but as the admin once told me, putting me before, after I took apart one bone-by-one, you are not a doctor to make diagnoses, even if frank and dear there.
So, I’m not a doctor in order to take apart the logic of a sick person. Let the experts do it

[Mcar]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

To the sect "Putin the traitor gave the Kuriles", as well as to his slaves Girkin, I express my most sincere and deepest condolences. Do not get out of grief guys. I understand that you are disappointed, but hold on. Maybe Putin will finally betray something and you will have a great holiday

Well, what are you dancing here, citizen bourgeois?

What kind of "compromises" is the "mouthpiece" of citizen Putin Peskov talking about, if four years after Khrushchev's well-known proposal was canceled? Why is this media "ping-pong" about the islands? To accustom the public consciousness to this idea - that's why.

This is a famous trick:
- We will increase the prices from January 1!
People rebel, rampage in networks. He even goes to rallies.
January 1 came - the prices were the same, they did not increase.
- We will increase the prices from March 1!
People rebel (but less), riots on the networks (but less). He even goes to rallies (also significantly less).
March 1 came - the prices were the same, they did not increase.
- We will increase the prices from May 1!
The people do not rebel (and why, they didn’t raise it), they didn’t rage on the networks (and why, they didn’t raise it). No one goes to rallies (why freeze snot - they didn’t raise it).
Since May XNUMX, prices have increased.

[Consultant]

Quote: McAr

What kind of "compromises" does the "mouthpiece" of citizen Putin Peskov broadcast about?

And what, in fact, is "broadcasting a megaphone"? Literally, plz ...

In the meantime, we have this: you (and others like you) were taxed with predictions, now you need to puff your cheeks, make a talented face and say more to Zaumi.

Quote: McAr

This is a famous trick.

Yes, much more famous

[Spartanez300]

Why did the Japs drive into their heads that Russia needs this peace treaty more, for so many years we have lived without it and will still live. It was said that the Kuril Islands are an integral part of Russia, which is not yet clear.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Spartanez300

Why did the Japs drive into their heads that Russia needs this peace treaty more, we’ve lived without it for so many years and will live

They probably read the comments on our website from all-companions and concluded that Putin would give them the Kuril Islands.
But in the end, Putin, Kurilami, lips and yap and our all-companions

[Alexander Romanov]

Ahphaha, minusits ​​sit, but the losers are silent. What lovers putinslil fuck you yeah
I understand that when Putin led you to the lips of the Kuril Islands, this is not pleasant, but on the other hand, you are not used to it.
Oh dear, sat in ecstasy and waited, now Putin will give the Kuril Islands. Well, did the losers wait ?????
Gardamira separate greetings

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Ahphaha, minusits ​​sit, but the losers are silent. What lovers putinslil fuck you yeah
I understand that when Putin led you to the lips of the Kuril Islands, this is not pleasant, but on the other hand, you are not used to it.
Oh dear, sat in ecstasy and waited, now Putin will give the Kuril Islands. Well, did the losers wait ?????
Gardamira separate greetings

As usual ... quietly ...

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Ahphaha, minusits ​​sit, but the losers are silent. What lovers putinslil fuck you yeah
I understand that when Putin led you to the lips of the Kuril Islands, this is not pleasant, but on the other hand, you are not used to it.
Oh dear, sat in ecstasy and waited, now Putin will give the Kuril Islands. Well, did the losers wait ?????
Gardamira separate greetings

Well, yes, first make hints, then hand back. And right away, look how good it is. Trump just as reconciled with the DPRK, brought the fleet, threatened, withdrew the fleet, the result: a dove of peace. So now ratings and political bonuses are created.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh

Well, yes, first make hints, then hand back.

Hints were only in the dreams of those who dream that Putin will give the Kuril Islands. And they are waiting for this, just to write, You see, Putin is a traitor

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Count how many articles there were about these islands only on this resource. Sit and think: what would it be.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh

Count how many articles there were about these islands only on this resource.

Only not in one article there were no words of officials that Russia gives the islands. All this was invented by the commentators themselves. They wanted the islands to be given

[Consultant]

Quote: Fkjydjckfrgh

Sit and think: why would it

Clicks. Hype. Advertising. Profit

What is there to think?

[dirk182]

or maybe all these baits for the next raising of the gdp rating)) Type, man, I didn’t merge. Our president.

[Flatter]

Diplomat NN Platoshkin-USSR did not sign the 1951 peace treaty in San Francisco with Japan, but was present at the signing. The reason is the US war in Korea and the absence of China, which lost 30 million lives. But Russia can sign this treaty today, without Japan, entering a number of signatory countries according to which Japan unconditionally recognizes the results of the war. And stop all talk on this issue. What prevents it from doing this?
More- "Putin does not rule Russia" Platoshkin, YouTube.

[dirk182]

Do you already know the results of the negotiations in advance? People are just expressing their opinion. You spit more poison here..aki kremlebot. Be careful with phrases like "horse". After all, the Earth is round. And it is not beautiful. I don't want to label you ""

[SASHA OLD]

and I wrote under one of the previous articles on this topic that the question will be resolved one way or another, but we will see local omnipotent people and see what they will then sing)

[Aerodrome]

Yoshihide Suga: Tokyo's position on the southern Kuril Islands remains unchanged

and what ?

[SSR]

Quote: Aerodrome

Yoshihide Suga: Tokyo's position on the southern Kuril Islands remains unchanged

and what ?

And the fact that our position remains unchanged is from the donkey's ears and not the island.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Spartanez300

Why did the Japs drive into their heads that Russia needs this peace treaty more

There are such animals, certain qualities of which, it is customary to endow people. So the Japanese were likened to rams (stupidity), and donkeys (stubbornness), and jackals (they pick up political scum from the table of a large US predator). Well, the Russian bear sits on its own mound, and frankly wonders what he wants all this pack.

[hydrox]

Quote: Alex2048

They could talk about this on the phone ...

For the two Foreign Ministries, this is only a reason for a meeting: because the position of the Russian people regarding the Kuril Islands also remained unchanged - never will the yupps!

[Phil77]

Well, so did our people (I won’t say for rulers!) It has not changed. The islands are just ours!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Phil77

Well, so did our people (I won’t say for rulers!) It has not changed. The islands are just ours!

Samurai horn rested? So we know how to beat off the horns ...

One hope - the problem has received a great resonance and our government simply WILL NOT DARE now to cut in the "return". We would like to merge the islands - we would merge quietly ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Phil77

Well, so do our people (I won’t say for rulers!)

Well, it's useless, even if the count on the head of the chesha

[steelmaker]

This only confirms my opinion: "If there is a war, then enemies must be finished off. Humanism is not acceptable here!" With its humanism, how many problems RUSSIA has made for itself.

[tracer]

Germany is an excellent indicator of this. We smashed VERMAHT to smithereens. Problem solved. We would start to agree, everything would be different.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: tracer

Germany is an excellent indicator of this. We smashed VERMAHT to smithereens. Problem solved. We would start to agree, everything would be different.

Yes, only something today goes to zero this figure.

I will not say that the Germans loved us in the German Democratic Republic. They didn’t love, but they were afraid. And now, thanks to the efforts of the Brokeback Dog and Sverdlovsk Alkash, they are not afraid.

But the French have a colloquial word "Berezina". What is "Berezina", where such a river flows, what was there and how it is connected with Napoleon Bonaparte deified by them today - most do not remember any more. But the meaning of this word they have is an analogue of our "ALL PROPALO !!!!!"

[rotmistr60]

Tokyo's position regarding the southern Kuril Islands remains unchanged

So sit with your position and do not twitch, and do not forget to keep an eye on the "bazaar" of your politicians. Otherwise, during the negotiations, all the belligerence and confidence had disappeared somewhere, so they sat like knocked down.

[vladimirZ]

According to him (Sergei Lavrov), the main condition for the conclusion of a peace treaty between the countries, Russia has designated Japan's recognition of Russia's full sovereignty over the Kuril Islands, and this is Russia's "basic position", which is "not subject to discussion."
At the same time, it is reported that the parties agreed to continue further negotiations on the basis of the 1956 declaration. - from article

Do you find here a contradiction in the position of S. Lavrov, and accordingly the entire leadership of Russia?
On the one hand, "it is not subject to discussion," and on the other, "the parties agreed to continue further negotiations on the basis of the 1956 declaration," which provided for the transfer of the islands under certain conditions.
"Not subject to discussion" should unequivocally define the inviolability of Russia's territorial integrity, and not some vague wording about the "1956 declaration" that gives hope to the Japanese.
And all these fears of the people about the possible joint use / transfer of the islands of Japan are based on the very recent facts of the transfer of the sovereign territory of Russia by its current rulers Putin and Medvedev, in violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, China and Norway for unknown carriages.

[igorbrsv]

. They rely on the very recent facts of the transfer of the sovereign territory of Russia by its current rulers Putin and Medvedev, in violation of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, China and Norway for unknown carriages.

There were no mats. I read, now I do not remember. But there are pros and cons. The benefits were mutual. In general, these were neither gifts nor sales.
Well, according to the declaration, the Japanese must first sign a peace treaty, and then on the basis of goodwill ... Maybe ...
But that is, that is. There are islands in the declaration

[vladimirZ]

But there are pros and cons (regarding the transfer of Russian territory to China and Norway) The benefits were mutual. In general, these were neither gifts nor sales. - igorbrsv

I know the disadvantages that violate the territorial integrity of Russia - the main of which is a precedent for other states requiring territorial concessions from us.
Sound the points on the pros for Russia, separately for China and Norway.

[vladimirZ]

But there are pros and cons (regarding the transfer of Russian territory to China and Norway). The benefits were mutual. In general, these were neither gifts nor sales. - igorbrsv

I am waiting for an answer to the question posed about pluses for Russia, when its territory is given to other states.
So far I see only a minus to my comment. Is that your answer?

[igorbrsv]

I did not put a minus.
The dispute with China on this site has been going on since 1964. The plus, first of all, is that the demarcation of borders with China is completed and there are no more reasons for military clashes due to territorial claims. This section of the border was the last controversial section. Unfortunately, I could not find an article describing the problems of the islands themselves. The reason for just such a division of the islands was the agreement of 1991 on the border in the middle of the shipping channel.
The demarcation of the border with Norway is due to the discovered hydrocarbon deposits. However, their development was prohibited, since Norway in 1976 challenged the line of demarcation of maritime borders. Norway insisted on a line equidistant from the islands, the USSR on the line connecting the north pole and the extreme point of the land border, as a result of which the line ran close to the Norwegian island of Spitsbergen. As a result, the disputed territory was simply divided in half, drawing the middle line. Of the minuses, the rights of fishermen to fish in the area of ​​the coast of Svalbard are not specified in detail.
The same reasons - hydrocarbons and fishing, prompted to divide the Caspian. They tried to solve this problem for a long time.
As a result, we have the two remaining unsolvable problems. Peace agreement with Japan and recognition by the territory of the Russian Federation of Crimea. And it seems like a long time. Although still the Arctic share ...

[vladimirZ]

As a result, we have the two remaining unsolvable problems. - igorbrsv

Where are the pros for Russia you are writing about?
Solving the problem at the expense of Russia is not a positive solution to the problem for us.
The leaders of the USSR never solved "problems" at the expense of their territory. And Putin and Medvedev are doing it independently, contrary to the Constitution. Let's say they did. And now there are some misunderstandings about the Kuriles.
In the case of China, after the surrender of the strategic islands to it, the border actually approached Khabarovsk. In a few kilometers, not even tens of kilometers, from the present border is now the headquarters of the entire Eastern Military District, which can be neutralized at a time.
The maritime territories transferred to Norway are now oil and gas.
Where do you see the pros? Only losses, and strategic for no reason! Or maybe, like Gorbachev M. at one time for checks in foreign banks? And this cannot be ruled out, since already such a case with the head of state (Gorbachev) was in our immediate history.
"Problems" are solved at the expense of the territory of Russia, think about it! Positive here, there are no pluses. Think first of all with your own head, and do not refer to the power propagandists who justify their mediocre comprador policy.

[igorbrsv]

The marine territories transferred to Norway were explored by the USSR in the 1970s. I doubt that they gave the cream.
About China. The issue with the border needs to be addressed. Suppose she walked along the median line of the islands. What will change in terms of defense? I do not advocate distributing territories left and right. But do the islands somehow help defense? Major fortifications are still ashore.
"The leaders of the USSR never solved" problems "at the expense of their territory"
1940th Petsamo. Finland.
Any state is trying to clearly outline its borders in order to give the offender a head with a sense of accomplishment.
Yes. You could leave everything as it is. Do not conduct development either in the Barents Sea or in the Caspian. Exchange detained fishing boat sailors. Only the problem will not go away. The neighbors also want to fuck there and will do a dirty trick. We do not want to decide, they will do so without us to decide.
You can show and shoot mother Kuzkin in all directions, or you can close this question and not be afraid of a knife in the back. This does not apply to Japan. These are definitely stuck among the first. But a peace treaty is needed. With the recognition by Japan of our sovereignty over the Kuril Islands, the same problems seem to be removed - deposits and biological resources, fishing problems. Now I think there is a joint catch going. I could be wrong.
Yes, and these problems are not solved by me. I see the action and try to understand for what purpose it was performed. Nothing is done just like that. I don't believe in banal "squandering". Too shallow in this case wasting. But the connection is visible - all these are sections with an unmarked border.

[vladimirZ]

The marine territories transferred to Norway were explored by the USSR in the 1970s. I doubt that they gave the cream.
About China. The issue with the border needs to be addressed. - igorbrsv

We will solve such a policy ad infinitum. Maps are already being printed in China, and schools teach that the entire territory of the Far East, Transbaikalia, including Chinese Baikal.
Putin's Torahs make it possible to establish Chinese enclaves with their own laws that are not controlled by Russian law in Russia, and renting large territories equal to some European states for 50-70 years in Transbaikalia / D. Vostok practically alienates our land, most likely, forever. The Chinese are already settling in our Lake Baikal, buying up land, building houses and hotels, violating all legislative standards.
There is no real military force capable of at least potentially restraining the expansion of China in D. Vostok and Transbaikalia, the vast majority of military towns and garrisons were destroyed and eliminated in the 2000s already under Putin.
So, comfort yourself with the liberal news and the "successes" of Putin's policy from TV screens, which have nothing to do with real objectivity.

[Ham]

while Japan is an occupied country it is pointless to negotiate with them

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ham

while Japan is an occupied country it is pointless to negotiate with them

Do tripartite negotiations need to be arranged?

[ANCIENT]

In this case, they need to say in the words of one character from one movie "... and let them drive radishes out of here ..."

[ANCIENT]

In this case, you just need to cancel the negotiations on a peace treaty - we lived without this piece of paper, and, nothing, and then we will continue to live without a piece of paper, but with YOUR ISLANDS! !!

[Dmitry Potapov]

The position had to be chosen when they became Hitler's ally.

[georggy]

the parties agreed to continue further negotiations on the basis of the 1956 declaration.

It is high time to cancel such documents.

[g1washntwn]

The 1956 declaration must be forgotten, and those who remember it should be burned immediately at the stake. There was a time it was necessary to agree, now the realities are completely different and the engine has left. Only a tough stance: The results of the Second World War are not reviewed and period. Enough already amuse yourself in front of the wind chimes in Japan or where else. Under every overseas fool who are stupidly writing up here and there, you sweat up foreign policy.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: g1washntwn

The results of World War II are not being reviewed and period. Enough already amuse yourself in front of the wind chimes in Japan or where else.

More often they need to be reminded. Both in Japan and in Europe. And America does not hurt to know who actually won in World War II.

[Sergej1972]

Just do not blame everything on Khrushchev. then all the leadership of the USSR approved this declaration. In 1956, Malenkov, Molotov, and Kaganovich were in the country's leadership.

[pros000007]

as I understand it, the Kremlin is now ready to give only two islands from the northern Kuril Islands, but the Japs insist on four, well, let's see what happens next, the point is not set. Strelkov correctly does that he raises a wave of protest, he shows the Kremlin that part of society is against transferring Japan pieces of the motherland that not everything is approving

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: pro000007

as I understand it - the Kremlin is now ready to give only two islands from the northern Kuril Islands

With an understanding of the problem, but this is not surprising, because-

Quote: pro000007

Shooters do the right thing

You at least follow Twitter on Girkin. Write thanks for Slavyansk

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Do you know what the catch of all this running around with rallies and standing with posters? Then after all, they will also write here - Girkin and the Communist Party saved the islands! No need to go to Kiev and stand on Bankovskaya with banners - hands off Kiev-Pechersk Lavra! Here it would be I tell you a sensation !!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

Then after all, they will also write here - Girkin and the Communist Party saved the islands!

One already wrote it today, here in comments

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

No need to go to Kiev and stand on Bankovskaya with banners - hands off Kiev-Pechersk Lavra!

Heroes are scared

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Actually, it’s even getting funny. They are already being told from all sides - yes, calm down, you guys (well, it is understood that the guys should be generally normal, just nervous) and Lavrov has already said that it remains only to repeat his famous expression in two words ... And they will give up theirs - no ! Like little ill-mannered children throwing tantrums to parents in a store - and you buy, buy, buy !!! They'll give it back, give it back, give it back ... I was talking here the other day with an elderly communist. Convinced of course (Stalinist), but a decent man in himself. The topic was a little different. So he has such a solution to the question - but let Putin speak on TV and say! Such a simple solution to the question. As if "ill-mannered children" after this performance will immediately become well-mannered. In that conversation, I was also struck by his conviction (I don’t want to call it obstinacy out of respect) - the person understands absolutely exactly who the Bolsheviks are, understands that they had a very indirect relationship to Russia and the Russians, he understands that the church did not need to be touched, he understands that the peasants were zadolbali, no doubt that private property should be ... But - a communist to the marrow of his bones and Stalin is a genius! I ask him - what kind of Marxism is this with the church, private property and private peasant farms ?! He's talking about you ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

Well, he’s talking to you ..

Here the characters are worse, they lie right in front of each other and everyone around, they put pluses for lying and you can’t break them with any arguments. Everyone dreams of a revolution, calibers for the Kremlin. They promised to throw off power on the 100 anniversary of the revolution, millions will leave and take off. Millions did not come out, they moved the date

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Of course they won’t. What for? It just needs time to pass. Time cures. But this does not mean at all that such calls should be ignored now. If necessary, then very close attention. Well, in the media, including on Internet resources, normal people should contrast their truths with harmless tales!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

. Well, in the media, including on Internet resources, normal people should contrast their truths with harmless tales!

Now, if you ask a schoolboy who such Lenin is, they will scratch their turnips. Utopian youths are not interesting.
Here they howled that the police would be renamed the police, they said there would be no respect, they would call them cops.
But it turned out the opposite, garbage left in the past with the police.
I went to school recently, there is a whole class, was at a break, in camouflage and chevrons POLICE. It turns out that this class is not so easy to get into, many are envious. In the days of the USSR, if a Taoki class appeared in the school, it would be blotted out by the whole school at once.
But even now knowing this, the Bolsheviks will yell, no, this is not so, the police were respected. Lying to yourself is the norm for them

[Cheslav Tsursky]

Now the Bolshevik from the liberal can not be distinguished. I think you mean both of them.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

Now the Bolshevik from the liberal can not be distinguished

Yes, they are in the same ranks. They are happy to stand shoulder to shoulder with Bandera in topics about Orthodoxy.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Cheslav Czursky

I was struck by his conviction in that conversation (I don't want to call it obstinacy out of respect) -

You see, there are a great many people to whom wisdom is not over the years, but only age. By the way, here there are - A distinctive feature of such comrades: they love to trump their very own age. But as they say, the lobby is useless?

[Vlad 63]

while agreeing not to disclose the content of the negotiations.

What are these secrets?

the parties agreed to continue further negotiations on the basis of the 1956 declaration.

That declaration was canceled by the Soviet side back in 60, which means it has no force. Personally, I got the impression that "ours" want to sell these two islands to the Yapas, but the samurai want to get all 4 islands. By the way, according to polls in Japan, more than 80% do not want to sign a peace treaty with Russia until all four islands are returned.

[Kent0001]

Send yapes to the forest (this is about Our Islands), but it’s possible to work economically, and our visa-free offer was to support yapy, then their citizens will be able to visit the graves of their ancestors without question ... but the samurai are under occupation, so there will be no visa-free travel, peace treaty, too ...., but I think we do not care about this topic ....

[Andrey Chistyakov]

[B] [/ b]
The position of Moscow in the Kuril Islands remains unchanged.

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

To forbid the courts of a country with which there is no peace treaty to enter the Okhotskoe into the inland sea of ​​the Russian Federation (otherwise someone who is slanting knows what you have in mind) and observe. But these are just wet dreams, the Kremlin has partners wherever it spits.

[Avior]

The Sea of ​​Okhotsk cannot be the inland waters of Russia - look at the map, there is a part of the Japanese coast

[3vs]

Then there’s nothing more to talk about!
Close your American bases, then come and you can talk.

[Wizard_57]

On December 17, 2018 13:30 I wrote in the comments to the article "The Japanese continue to hope for the return of the islands":
“Sometimes it seems to me that the Japanese have been subtly bullied lately, keeping them on a short leash.
If you want islands - but no question, - Shikotan and the Habomai ridge according to the 1956 declaration, - well, - let's make plans, discuss and speak. Long. Often. To no avail. "
I would like to repeat with pleasure once again - "the Japanese are being deliberately mocked"!

[Caretaker]

Probably, it makes sense to call not Shikotan and Habomai, but the "Small Kuril Ridge", as it is indicated on the maps.
Even on Wiki and Yandex maps Russian names of islands.

[Chichikov]

Yoshihide Suga: Tokyo's position on the South Kuriles remains unchanged

Then, Mr. Yoshihide Suga, there is only one way out - seppuku!

[SS-18 Satan]

Comrade Yoshihide Suga ... I want to upset you, but Russia's position also remains unchanged. so eat sushi next.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

The Japanese government will not change its position on the peace treaty with Russia and the ownership of the "Northern Territories"

"well, sit like a fool without a gift" (peace treaty)

[farelouz]

Why forget about the gold stolen by the Japanese at the beginning of the 20th century - they exported all the gold reserves !!! and people saved up, became impoverished at one moment ... and Japan just rose on this, on the sweat of our ancestors
https://rg.ru/2015/06/08/rodina-kolchak.html

[Dzafdet]

It is necessary to demand from them to return Hokkaido, imperial gold and reparations for bacteriological attacks of our territory. Encephalitis tick is a present from them ..

[Signal]

This does not bother anyone:

... while agreeing not to disclose the content of the negotiations.

and here it is:

At the same time, it is reported that the parties agreed to continue further negotiations based on the 1956 declaration of the year.

? Why continue meaningless negotiations?

[BAI]

this is the "basic position" of Russia, which is "non-negotiable."

Unfortunately, we have already seen how the basic position of Russia on other issues has changed.

[Signal]

Have Maria Zakharova been carefully listened to by Solovyov?

From 10 minutes on that it was the leadership of our country that "... goodwill was shown ..." to resume negotiations on a peace treaty. This is for those who say that the Japanese are harassing us, not we are the Japanese. Otherwise, it interferes with cooperation with the Japanese. So we need this cooperation?

From 16:30 "The issue of territorial affiliation of the islands at this moment ..." is not being considered. Just for the moment? Who was laughing about the "present moment" of the American soldier for the deployment of bases in the Kuril Islands? We also have "these moments" ...

[Loess]

Quote: Signal

From 16:30 "The issue of territorial affiliation of the islands at this moment ..." is not being considered.

You closed the quotes early. The ending sounds like this: "not subject to any doubt." There was no talk about "not being considered". Zakharova's further reasoning fits well with the version about throwing the Amers out of Japan, and then, maybe someday, it’s quite possible, if suddenly ... If only the Japanese were not scared away ahead of time

Quote: Signal

Who was laughing about the "present moment" of the American soldier for the deployment of bases in the Kuril Islands?

I laughed. Did you cry?

[Ros 56]

And our position, which is unchanged, will not even be dreamed of by the Japanese in a dream. Stop pouring from empty to empty.

[Cry]

In this case, Abe will have to make hara-kiri on the grave of his father.

[Azazelo]

soaring in the clouds?

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Russia's position must be formulated in two words: "... Woe to the vanquished ...".

[Avior]

well yes. They blew the Cold War ....

[igorbrsv]

The Japanese do not recognize Russia's sovereignty over the Kuril Islands according to the 1956 declaration, because they are limited by another treaty from the United States on the island of Okinawa. Therefore, there can be no peace treaty, since the Kuril Islands will not be given to them for an exchange. And even Shikotan, and Habomai they do not shine. They cannot take them, and they cannot sign them. In my opinion, there’s nothing more to discuss over this topic, since there is a complete political pi .., well, or a dead end in a different way

[NF68]

So stay in this "position" until the crayfish on the mountain whistle.

[LeonidL]

There is also another option for them - to become a cancer on the mountain themselves under the delicately blooming sakura and to whistle. Very romantic pose for a samurai.

[taseka]

They killed and robbed Sakhalin from the 1903 of the year - where is the indemnity?

[kamikaze]

let them dream of the Kuril Islands dreaming is not harmful.

[sergio_5252]

Yoshihide Suga: Tokyo's position on the South Kuriles remains unchanged

That's funny - with us too!

[tatra]

All this was understandable without any negotiations, if Russia and Japan did not want to concede anything, and the Japanese do not need any peace treaty, but only islands are needed.

[Alex20042004]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Madhouse! The country, which was defeated in World War 2, sets some other conditions !!! ??? When there was a holiday on their street, they did not think to talk to anyone, but did what they needed.

I agree. I also add that Japan is a colony of the United States.

[LeonidL]

"The position of Japan on this issue is unchanged, said the Secretary General of the Cabinet of Ministers Yoshihide Suga" - Moscow's position on this issue is unchanged .... And this is likely to remain because both Lavrov and Putin are not going to commit political hara-kiri out of a desire to please the Japanese.

[bone1]

Well, shove your "unchanged position" in the appropriate place.