Medvedev harshly responded to the authorities of Belarus

Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev commented on the statements that have recently come from Minsk. The Minsk statements about the “possible loss of Russia by an ally” looked harsh, and the head of the Russian Cabinet also allowed himself an equally harsh response. According to Medvedev, Belarus needs to appreciate the support that Russia provides to the country.

Medvedev:

In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, - note “IN”), taking money out of our economy. It should be appreciated, arguing about allied relations.

Medvedev recalled that the credit support of Belarus already exceeds 6,5 billion dollars, not counting the crediting of the construction of a strategically important Belarusian energy facility - a nuclear power plant. The head of the Russian government added that Russia does not demand the immediate return of credit funds, prolonging loans at the request of the Belarusian side.

We remind that earlier in Minsk they offered to “get rid of the Russian energy dependence”. At the same time, the President of Belarus did not specify on whose energy resources the Republic of Belarus intends to transfer, if he refuses to supply from Russia.

The Prime Minister of the Russian Federation noted that Russia is ready to continue negotiations with Belarusian partners, and added that Moscow never promised to compensate for “the revenues lost by other countries”.

It must be recalled that Alexander Lukashenko expects energy supplies from Russia at Russian domestic prices, and in the volumes that Minsk itself will request. The head of the Russian government actually made it clear that the conversation at the level of ultimatums Moscow does not accept.

Comments

[Vend]

Quote: Beater

Medvedev began singing for good reason liberalists ... Well, well! Let the gentlemen continue to persecute Belarus! They sing in unison.
Old Man of course is sharp, but he remained the last buffer in the West, there the enemy will not be allowed to pass unambiguously ..
This is not Ukraine ...

What does it mean bullying Belarus. Belarus in Russia as a region on subsidies. Belarus is well fed, which is not enough for them. I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

[Stepan8019]

Nobody wants anymore! At least do not select the last bone !!! When funding is cut, it’s less, not more !!!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Stepan8019

Don’t take away the last bone

Belarusian sailors will often have to throw a net in Svisloch and double the catch of shrimp, lobsters and lobsters, and Belarusian villagers will plant more winter bananas and spring mangoes

[Beater]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Quote: Stepan8019

Don’t take away the last bone

Belarusian sailors will often have to throw a net in Svisloch and double the catch of shrimp, lobsters and lobsters, and Belarusian villagers will plant more winter bananas and spring mangoes

Koshak, you wouldn’t even be malicious, here .. And so the beating began, (I already read this from you and not only)
After all, you perfectly understand what, all this bullying leads to?

[alexmach]

After all, you perfectly understand what, all this bullying leads to? hi

Well, it really does not lead to anything good, but IMHO the Belarusians, in the person of their supreme, themselves began and overdid in rhetoric more than once. It's time to put in place.

[Veter_73]

So he is the owner of shares in Gazprom, Rosneft, Lukoil, Norilsk Nickel. What are you surprised at, EGE works. Belarus remains the last ally, this is China. I think that if it were not for this factor, they would gobble up the Republic of Belarus like Crimea.

[demos1111]

China is an ally until Russia did not block the railways of Belarus and China.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Veter_73

Belarus remains the last ally, this is China. I think that if it were not for this factor, they would gobble up the Republic of Belarus like Crimea.

Is China an ally? How naive you are Yes, China, except for himself, to put on everyone. If you are there, no matter who, he, as always, will stand aside and will benefit! He will not harness for anyone!

[alexmach]

China ally this is a joke. I know one more joke about the alliance with China. The Wolf comes to visit Little Red Riding Hood and says - choose either a merger or a takeover. Such is your China ally. Nobody else in the world since Russia and Belarus will not make a fuss. No one, neither China, nor Europeans, nor the USA. They will send a directive from above and demand that they be followed. And after the very first statement in the style of today's Lukashenko, they will simply stop talking to you. Generally. Only through senior vassals will the directives be transmitted and sanctions imposed for their non-fulfillment. All.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: alexmach

And after the very first statement in the style of today's Lukashenko, they will simply stop talking to you.

Well, why will they stop - they will call us at the embassy, ​​put them on sight, and if they don’t understand the first time, then there will be another old man in Belarus ... It’s only we who are fussing ...

[Olezhek]

and if he doesn’t understand from the first time, then there will be another dad in Belorussia ... It’s only we who make a fuss.

Well, like that - Mubarak 30 years faithfully served America -
Merged not for snuff tobacco.
just leaked - was needed - used, became unnecessary - leaked

Gaddafi - financed the election campaign of Sarkozy - in gratitude received a pen from the mop



So someone in Minsk has become impudent ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Olezhek

So someone in Minsk has become impudent ...

Someone in Minsk contracted a Ukrainian disease? "Abroad will help us"))) Only not Europe, but China

[smart ass]

China is an ally of RB? What do you smoke?

[Roma 1977]

China is not an ally, but a creditor. And quite tough. But if there is no other, then we are glad for such.

[Vend]

Quote: Stepan8019

Nobody wants anymore! At least do not select the last bone !!! When funding is cut, it’s less, not more !!!

Belarus is a sovereign state, it is one thing to help, we must somehow develop ourselves, get on our feet so as not to crush. But to live on a subsidy is not the case.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Wend

we ourselves must somehow develop, get on our feet, so as not to crush. But to live on a subsidy is not the case.

At the end of the 80, in the 90 we tried to live on Western help. What happened - we all know. Ukraine now lives in debt - we stock up on popcorn, we are more comfortable at television sets. I agree, Western aid is not that Russian. She was initially poisoned. But living on Russian help and concessions is also a bad habit. But at the same time and crap quietly -

Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich

Belarusian sailors will often have to throw a net in Svisloch and double the catch of shrimp, lobsters and lobsters, and Belarusian villagers will plant more winter bananas and spring mangoes

[loki565]

Russia often forgives debts to many countries, and the West will also take interest with interest if the payments are delayed.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: loki565

Russia often forgives debts to many countries, and the West will also take interest with interest if the payments are delayed.

Yes, and will not be late - it will not seem a little. Sometimes it seems to me that it is cheaper and safer to borrow money in some "Quick Money - Microcredits" than in the IMF. "Microcredits" do not suit the orange revolutions and the country's economy is not ruined.

[alexmach]

we ourselves must somehow develop, get on our feet, so as not to crush. And to live on a subsidy is not a thing

A state the size of Belarus cannot do this in the modern world. Veke in 17 could and now can not do it. Just cling to someone. Russia itself will not be able to do this — too small.

[Amin_vivec]

Can Switzerland? Czech Republic?

[alexmach]

No, of course they cannot. And why did you even remember them here. What do you think they are doing? Switzerland is an important part of the global financial system. The Czech Republic is well integrated into the European economy - one of the most powerful in the world actually. The Czech Republic is almost Germany.

Sense of comparing Belarus with Switzerland and the Czech Republic? Switzerland, neither she nor Russia will ever, never ever be. The Czech Republic - they will not be in the foreseeable future, but with such a policy, most likely also never.

[sniperino]

Quote: alexmach

Czech Republic - well integrated into the European economy

It obeys economic laws and treaties within the EEC and does not threaten Europe with a checkjet in this regard.

[Roma 1977]

In the 17th century, it could not either. Slid to a provincial Polish province. And it’s not just that.

[passerby]

It’s necessary to drive this Lukashenko into the neck.

[Polochanin]

Do not you propose your candidacy not his place? Now think, who will be in his place? Personally, I do not know a single political and public figure, more or less known in the territory of the Republic of Belarus, who would be oriented towards Russia?

[bmv04636]

Old Man complains that we sell them gas at 137 cu wants like in the Course for 70 cu But at the same time he forgets that he is already pushing gas to his population at a price of more than 300 cu about how

[olegactor]

Nobody wants anymore! At least do not select the last bone !!! When funding is cut, it’s less, not more !!


just go nuts .... well, and the allies .... more like freeloaders ... blackmail .... you feed us for so ... but no, we will be for mattresses ..... but for starters where is the recognition South Ossetia ... Abkhazia ... where is help in Syria .....

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Stepan8019

At least do not select the last bone !!!

Fucking independence

[shark]

It's not about financing. Belarus, following the Sumerians, gathered to the west. But she got together more cunning. These narrow-minded Sumer people cut ends and say it is easier for Moscow. Belarusians are smart people. They want to keep Russia as a source of raw materials and as a huge sales market. But among the Belarusian elites, I think that Russia is doomed. Due to the pressure of sanctions, etc. And they are not going to get involved in a closer friendship with us. Hence the recognition of Crimea, Ossetia and Abkhazia. All verbal vyseurs about Mr. Lukashenko's friendship with Russia are no more than vyseurs. Deeds suggest otherwise. For example, they recently lifted the limit on the number of American diplomats. The State Department even praised them for this) In fact, they want to continue to milk Russia. I think you need to be ready for a divorce in the failed "union state". The funds that, by naivety or stupidity, we threw into the economy of a neighboring state, it is better to start up in any Russian region. The choice. Fortunately, there are many of them. We must understand that Belarus is not our ally. You can't be friends in one pocket.

[Roma 1977]

Pure truth. But there is but. The Belarusians themselves are very friendly towards Russia, and it is Lukashenko and his administration that is an obstacle to deepening integration. All in the hands of Russia. Will push away Belarusians - will lose Belarus, will push away personally Lukashenko - will gain. Wanghui first option.

[Olezhek]

Pure truth. But there is but. The Belarusians themselves are very friendly towards Russia, and it is Lukashenko and his administration that is an obstacle to deepening integration.

What a lovely fairy tale ...

[ancestors from Don]

Of course I am not Medvedev, but yesterday I was harshly minus for absolutely the same thing said, enough to contain "friends" at the expense of the impoverishment of Russians !!!! Friendship and love for money is called "reduced social responsibility."

[Halado Romane]

Medvedev may or may not like him, but under every word in this speech you can subscribe. Medvedev just called a spade a spade - we help you a lot, but you get out and also a lot! Hare behave this way!

[alexmach]

Medvedev may or may not like, but under each of his words in this speech you can subscribe

That's it. He said straightforwardly not himself. Very correct and restrained. And just expressed what is necessary in response to verbal diarrhea Lukashenko. This is one thing, but advise you to break off relations with ... how are you, partners? or no longer patrons but fellow travelers? In any case, a real break in relations is another.

[Icarus]

Medvedev may or may not like him, but under every word in this speech you can subscribe. Medvedev just called a spade a spade - we help you a lot, but you get out and also a lot! Hare behave this way!

Medvedev (like you) argues like an ordinary bourgeois, not taking into account the geopolitical position of Belarus. In no case should one lose the propaganda struggle for the minds of Belarusians. Just do not feed the political elite of Belarus with discounts on oil, which they mostly resell. And, for example, as an option, to pay directly to the population of the Republic of Belarus through Sberbank of the Russian Federation subsidies on the basis of income statements or other, thus bringing the cost of consumed petroleum products to an acceptable level for citizens. Thus, firstly, we will reduce our costs, and secondly, the brain of Belarusians will not be so easily washed with Russophobia.

[Amin_vivec]

And what are you geopolitically? Do you strengthen us? - no. Do you give us access to Kaliningrad? no. Do you give us direct access to Germany - our main gas market? - also no. Maybe you are even a buffer between us and NATO ... you are like Romania in the first world ...

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Do you give us access to Kaliningrad?

Thank you, Comrade Stalin, for Kaliningrad. He defined the boundaries in 1945-1946.
Well, to Comrade Brezhnev for one thing, when there was an option to change the borders within the USSR so that the BSSR would border Kaliningrad.
Well, in the 1990s, the AGL rushed to "A quick decisive assault. Do not spare cartridges!" that would cut through a corridor to Kaliningrad through Lithuania and Poland for one. And to exclude the possibility of their entry into NATO and the EU due to territorial disputes.
Fortunately, Boris Nikolaevich did not support that emotional impulse of the AHL.

[SASHA OLD]

about Romania in WWI just recently listened to K. Zhukov:
- Romania entered the war!
- Organize 6 divisions to fight against it!
- Um ... but they entered the war as our allies ...
- Heck! then organize 12 divisions to protect her ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Icarus

And, for example, as an option, to pay directly to the population of the Republic of Belarus through Sberbank of the Russian Federation subsidies

from your pocket and go! to pay subsidies to citizens of another country, a year later we read your report (it was necessary to come up with this .. drunk or something ..?)

[Amin_vivec]

And why not give the citizens of Belarus the right to a Far Eastern hectare, and automatically receive a passport of the Russian Federation at the same time?

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

And why not give the citizens of Belarus the right to the Far Eastern hectare

on the whole, why not, if they themselves want to become citizens of the Russian Federation, only first let us, the Russians, give out two hectares ...

[Amin_vivec]

Eat, get it))))

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Eat, get it))))

I personally do not need, I have, in addition to an apartment in Surgut, 2 hectares near Urai))
I mean, those who go with a Russian passport all their lives - first of all (who needs it), and those who immigrated - in the second

[Win1945]

You don’t understand that this money will not reach the Russians anyway .. even if Belarus does not receive it. Stoke for the enrichment of those in power? funny.

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: WIn1945

You don’t understand that this money will not reach the Russians anyway .. even if Belarus does not receive it.

What do you mean they will not reach, we raised our retirement age by 5 years, which would contain richly Belarusians

[Win1945]

aaaaaa so that's why they raised it. on TV they said different. or lied?

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Humpbacked Horse

Quote: WIn1945

You don’t understand that this money will not reach the Russians anyway .. even if Belarus does not receive it.

What do you mean they will not reach, we raised our retirement age by 5 years, which would contain richly Belarusians

The retirement age for Belarusians was raised earlier than in Russia. And without any "presidential softening" there. It is not the first time that unpopular decisions of the government are first "rolled" in Belarus, the reaction of the population is assessed, and then adopted by the Russian government.
Earlier it was with the "law on parasites". But it didn't work.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: WIn1945

You don’t understand that in any case this money will not reach the Russians ..

well, they’ll stay inside the country, which is already good

Quote: WIn1945

Stoke for the enrichment of those in power?

drown for not feeding foreigners

[Adimius38]

you have become impoverished because of Belarus ??? or maybe all the same from Medvedev’s policy

[The Little Humpbacked Horse]

Quote: Adimius38

you have become impoverished because of Belarus ???

Yes, they gave them over 100 billion dollars in ten years, here they are our pensions at 65

[New Year day]

Quote: Humpbacked Horse

they gave them more than 100 billion dollars in ten years, here they are our pensions at 65

and I thought one enemy - the United States, now it turns out, and Belarus!
Or maybe you need to steal less in Russia? Where is the country in corruption?

[Amin_vivec]

Belarus is not an enemy - but such friends - for the trunk and to the museum

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Silvestr

and I thought one enemy - the United States, now it turns out, and Belarus!

Greetings, Sylvester, Belarus is certainly not an enemy, but such relations cannot be called friendship ...

[Icarus]

Yes, they gave them over 100 billion dollars in ten years, here they are our pensions at 65

Do you really think that raising the retirement age will save our government something? Yes, our budget did not receive a part of the revenues from oil exports to the Republic of Belarus, reducing export duties for the republic, but this certainly did not have any significance for the Pension Fund. Belarusians should be supported, not “bought” the loyalty of Lukashenka, who, in my opinion, apart from his personal power, is not interested in either the fate of his people or union with Russia (only speculation on brotherhood).

[demos1111]

Belarusians and held. And the Ukrainians, too.
That we are in Minsk, that they in Kiev had fuel prices much lower than world prices. And the communal apartment too. Each of us.
And they got what they got.
Policy flawed fact. I think we should have supported the Russians, so that there would be someone to lean on. To hold back not only work (there is no need for free money. They have not yet benefited anyone), but also diplomatically and, if necessary, do not give to the military.
My son often asks me if here Bandera, together with our nationalists, will take power, how in Ukraine will the Russians help us?
What should he answer?

[Adimius38]

read less all sorts of RBC, the brain will be more sober. I can only add that the net outflow of capital from Russia only for 2018 (According to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the net outflow of capital from the Russian Federation in January-October increased three times compared to the same period last year and amounted to 42,2 billion dollars.) At the end year forecast of $ 54 billion. Speak to Lukashenko, he took 100 billion))), but the Russian elite withdrew 500-600 billion in ten years from under your nose. Russia's gain from high oil prices had practically no positive effect on the economy: income from the difference in oil prices went into capital outflows, accelerated due to fear of new sanctions, said VEB chief economist Andrei Klepach.
"Almost all the gain between the current prices of almost $ 70 per barrel and those that were guided earlier, at the beginning of the year - more than $ 50, it went entirely into capital outflow, and almost nothing settled inside the economy, it even diminished somewhat," - said Klepach at the S&P Global conference.

[Halado Romane]

Belarusians here directly compete in ezhdivchenstva! It's funny to watch! Stop guys spitting in the giver's hand! No need to count our money and finally deal with your leadership! We will deal with ours if necessary without your help! So far I have such a claim to him to feed the crafty allies! And you already learn to respect yourself! Reading is disgusting.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Ancestors from the Don

Of course I am not Medvedev, but yesterday I was harshly minus for absolutely the same thing said, enough to contain "friends" at the expense of the impoverishment of Russians !!!! Friendship and love for money is called "reduced social responsibility."

Well, Dmitry Anatolyevich is an experienced politician.
Special thanks to him for the missile program of the Belarusian military-industrial complex and, as a result, the creation of an analogue of the RPG-32 and MLRS / OTRK "Polonaise"!

[SSR]

Quote: Wend

I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

Looks like a ball rolled by a ball.

At the same time, the President of Belarus did not specify which energy sources the RB is going to switch to if he refuses supplies from Russia.

As I understand it, he will get rid of energy dependence by refusing supplies from Russia and switching to the purchase of affordable gases from Poland and Ukraine.

[My doctor]

Quote from S.S.R.

As I understand it, he will get rid of energy dependence by refusing supplies from Russia and switching to the purchase of affordable gases from Poland and Ukraine.

If so, then gas will not be needed for nothing. On gas, industrial enterprises and the energy sector, gas consumption by the population and utilities accounts for 7% of the total. There will be no sale of industrial goods and there will be no gas demand. And since import substitution in Russia, it means that the republic will also need less gas.

[alexmach]

What Belarusian products, in the cost of which a large share of energy resources in Russia really replace that?

[alexmach]

Well, and for what minus? Arguments where? Which of your products does Russia replace then list by points?
Can someone replace agricultural products?
Chemical industry - name what exactly.
Something else?

I only know about MAZ wheeled chassis for military equipment, but here, as it were, firstly, there was nothing to do with energy carriers, and secondly, they themselves were overbought.

[My doctor]

Quote: alexmach

Can someone replace agricultural products?

Milk

Quote: alexmach

Chemical industry - name what exactly.

oil refining industry

Quote: alexmach

I only know about MAZ wheeled chassis for military equipment

agricultural and mining equipment

[Amin_vivec]

will be in the built nuclear power plant specialists from Westing House to invite

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

will be in the built nuclear power plant specialists from Westing House to invite

What for?
Rosatom works great.
Only the reactor shells sometimes drops, but regularly changes under warranty.
What questions?

[hrych]

We noticed that Lukashenko began to press Russian TV, invite the American ambassador and met with the Ukrainian political figure. Those. they didn’t give money, I’m ready to go to the enemies. There was such a character Iskariot ... such figures are ready to make brotherly blood flow because of pennies and the experience of the neighboring state does not teach. Such leaders should always remember the death of Gaddafi.

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

We noticed that Lukashenko began to press Russian TV, invite the American ambassador and met with the Ukrainian political figure. Those. they didn’t give money, I’m ready to go to the enemies. There was such a character Iskariot ... such figures are ready to make brotherly blood flow because of pennies and the experience of the neighboring state does not teach. Such leaders should always remember the death of Gaddafi.

We noticed. And they also noticed that they began to publish the rating of the Medvedev government. And now we need to recoup someone, so to speak. Or switch attention. And here Lukashenka is very welcome. An ideal person for raising self-esteem. Don't you think? Ukraine is a squeezed topic. France. ? So the people in chorus, laughing through tears, answered Putin. That "Yes, we want it like in France" So this topic with Lukashenko will probably be relevant in the near future.

[hrych]

Lukashenko attracted attention, he started a circus.

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

Lukashenko attracted attention, he started a circus.

Well, you’re a smart person. Now put your comment on mine. And you will get the answer. The question is more accurate. Why is it all right on time? Well, the fact that this is a circus personally, I don’t argue at all

[Dr. Sorge]

Speak correctly, that's why the cons :)
Everyone here happily plays out the cookies.
Money, money .... And the fact that a single ethnic group is torn apart by Medvedev will be measured with silver coins :) But we will break through!

[hrych]

Ethnicity was torn by 3 bastards in Bialowieza, Luka did everything in order not to grow torn back, with his small-town consciousness, he earned more on this, on the brotherhood brand, but he did everything the other way around, and now, of course, he’ll lose everything ... proud The darkest broke through the knee ...

[Dr. Sorge]

Whom did he break? Is your darkest? After 2014, when Donbass was actually surrendered, the situation changed. He was broken off. Money. Capital and someone's kids abroad. And yes, Donbass is Ukraine, sorry, I forgot :)

[hrych]

He broke Saakashvili, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, Khodorkovsky, Moskhadov, Yandarbiev, Basayev. Few? Obama hit and Hillary brought to seizures When did he donate? In Izvarino? In Ilovaysk? In Debaltseve? Maybe in the Crimea broke off? In short, Michael Sorge is silent better Maybe humanitarian convoys and citizenship law, when now the issuance of Russian passports began? Maybe the Kemalists did not break the caste, ruling Turkey for 100 years, and now their leaders are tortured and raped in Turkish dungeons?

[Dr. Sorge]

Your answer is encouraging. Then why is the baiting of Belarusian products organized by Dankvert? I can blame it on our internal enemies. To you +

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Dr. Sorge

. And the fact that the ethnic group is torn apart

It depends on when it should be uniform for the Republic of Belarus, when it is united, when allied support is needed in the political (even) plan, then the Republic of Belarus apologizes for the sovereign state and the roots of its ethnos leave the West ...

[Dr. Sorge]

You only have money in the brains of your oligarchs driven ... Eat cookies :)

[sniperino]

Quote: Dr. Sorge

You only got money in the brains of your oligarchs

Are you like selfless friendship?

[Dr. Sorge]

Orthodoxy has a monetary unit? Well, only silver for traitors.

[sniperino]

Quote: Dr. Sorge

Well, only silver for traitors.

It was in the Roman Empire. For today it can be cubic meters of gas, but the essence is the same. Only if they give you cheap gas from the West, you know, it will come out more expensive: to destroy the monuments to the partisans of the Great Patriotic War, to erect monuments to the forest brothers, to buy Tomos, and then to buy beautiful thongs so that it would not be embarrassing to demonstrate European values ​​at the parade.

[Naive]

And you will remember the history of the relationship, you yourself have taught him easy money, here he was reformed (or rather could not develop skills for an independent life) and now do you think a miracle will happen? Yes ... ren there !!! There will be no dose will be breaking with all that it implies. And then it will be only on the increase ... It's a shame for people, nothing depends on them, and almost never depended ...

[Observer2014]

Naive (Victor)

And then it will be only on the increase ... It's a shame for people, nothing depends on them, and almost never depended ...

It's a shame. It's also a shame for the citizens of Belarus from the VO website. Many of them have a "roof" going. Nothing, they will survive. I survived. And they even accused me of betrayal. And they printed abomination, various lies. It's okay. Learn to think with your head. And not collect likes.

[Dr. Sorge]

You do not understand what I wrote about :) I wrote that we have internal enemies. And they are in your government.

[hrych]

Belarus covered the transit to the Great Gas War, so the costs were justified, but time goes on, the war is coming to an end, that there is SP-2 and TP, for which everything was started. On average, the EU depended on a third about our gas, which is almost critical dependence, but Putin is doing better. But actually more than half, because there is a sharp decline in production of the EU itself, with wells in the north of the EU (Norway 33%), and this is also a third of the gas market ... already less than a third. Every year there is a decline in production by 2%. In the second quarter of 2017, Russia accounted for 43% of EU gas imports. Therefore, Trump is promoting his LNG in this way. Those. soon and inevitably the Russian Federation will have a controlling stake, and the reason for the failure of the Saudi-Qatari project (as well as the Iranian one), UP simply mimicked the TP, strengthening Turkey’s dependence, the outcome of the war was also an unsuccessful coup and Turkey is no longer the West’s, and not even NATO cannon fodder, at least formally. The ruling 100-year-old Kemalist caste is destroyed. This is the main achievement, if not a miracle in the war, which is much larger than even the annexation of Crimea, although of course it is closer ...

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

Belarus covered the transit to the Great Gas War, so the costs were justified, but time goes on, the war is coming to an end, that there is SP-2 and TP, for which everything was started. On average, the EU depended on a third about our gas, which is almost critical dependence, but Putin is doing better. But actually more than half, because EU’s production drops sharply

Yes, we are just all literally delighted with these achievements !!! We are just wildly happy. When will we live better? Well, there the tickets will get cheaper, the rent will get cheaper. Will the salaries rise? This is called LIVING BETTER. Well, when is "bastard" When?

[hrych]

During the Second World War, millions of men lost their lives on the battlefield, women and children were hungry at the machine and at the plow, falling from exhaustion. It was the price of victory. Now the Russian people are waging a war no less important in the history of mankind, but some have not noticed this, and the price of the Victory is only a slight decrease in the standard of living ... relative to Putin’s years. Perhaps the fruits of the Victory are still known to our generation, when the EU and the PRC are destroyed, and the United States becomes a self-sufficient state, but ceases to be a hegemon ... which will inevitably and territorially be the Russian Federation.

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

During the Second World War, millions of men lost their lives on the battlefield, women and children were hungry at the bench and at the plow fell from exhaustion. It was the price of victory. Now the Russian people are waging a war no less important in the history of mankind, but some have not noticed this, and the price of the Victory is only a slight decrease in the standard of living ... relative to Putin’s years. Perhaps the fruits of the Victory are still known to our generation, when the EU and the PRC are destroyed, and the United States becomes a self-sufficient state, but ceases to be a hegemon ... which will inevitably and territorially be the Russian Federation.

I’m just in shock And I’m trying to find the right words. A multi-billion dollar fortune, luxurious life, mountains of real estate. The President’s friends are lawless. And so on and so forth. Their citizenship is in countries where we are called enemies openly. Including real estate, accounts in the same USA .How are they interconnected Here's everything you printed? I’m just trying to understand. I’m really trying to understand how to put all this in the trench against the evil imperialists of the USA.

[hrych]

But Trump was hounded by the media, and he wants the United States only self-sufficiency, Detroit from an industrial three-million megalopolis became a crushed half-million citizen, 50 million Americans do not have health insurance, American soldiers are delivered in coffins with constancy, the Chinese robbed Americans of tens of millions of jobs, etc. Japan and the EU have fed the muzzle red since the time of the Marshall Plan, do not want military spending to increase even up to 2% of GDP. The Germans spend 1,2%, we are almost 5% of the budget, but actually more. USA - a colony and hegemony brings only expenses and sacrifices, while the Chinese and Europeans are gaining weight. Now, oddly enough, the US is our ally against the PRC and the EU. And if the US dismembers China, then our task and success are to destroy the EU. We are destroying NATO, for example, we have pulled out the Turks - the largest army, we are making them and the Germans as a gas hub, and so on. Britain could not stand it and is bracketing, after that the EU is doomed and will be torn by contradictions. And that against the Russian Federation, any European country individually is rickets, even Germany, even France. The EU, as an empire was built on the ruins of the USSR and the SFRY, the latter was subjected to military aggression. But now the EU itself will die soon. Brexit is the beginning, moreover concrete, and here Luca

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

But Trump ... But now the EU itself will soon die. Brexit is the beginning, moreover concrete, and here Luca

: I always said that you are something : And so (I repeat)

Observer2014 (Sergey (Russia)): multi-billion dollar fortunes, luxurious life, mountains of real estate. Unconsciousness of the president’s friends before the law. And so on and their citizenship in countries where we are called enemies openly. Including real estate, accounts in the same USA. How interconnected Here with everything you printed? I’m just trying to understand. I’m really trying to understand how to put all this in the trench against the evil US imperialists.?

I perfectly understand the immense support for you. And I myself have provided you and will continue to provide them. But! You and I probably have the best conversation at the VO, the New Year is happening now. So, do not care about those disadvantages. We continue the conversation I ask for a specific answer to my question. Do not go away from the answer. Maybe it depends on your answer that many will change their worldview. And you are not Gorbachev in the end. Who spoke around and around and nothing more specifically.

[hrych]

The exported capital in dashing years is not worth a penny, without wells, factories, media channels. Moreover, it damages the economy where it was exported, because zero was exported. But our renegades tried to buy something in these countries in the West, though it turned out that there really was nothing to buy, strategic values ​​were not for sale, the same factories and wells, the powerful in the world control them and did not intend to sell their power (only an illusion in the form of papers, etc.). shares). Therefore, only clubs, yachts, castles ... for which you also have to constantly pay The same Berezovsky was the richest in the Russian Federation, he became bankrupt in the EU, because he could not take out the wells and factories, and he only exported ... zeros on the accounts. Moreover, in the West, the liquidation system of account holders, from Kathdafi, to Berezovsky, Patarkatsishvili and others. When he re-privatized, although many did not notice it again, they first got rid of Western corporations in the hydrocarbon market, they merged BP with TNCs, display Sakhalin 1 / 2 from the Americans and so forth. We also bought shares of our super-corporations and made import substitution with a game of lowering. This is the greatest conquest of our cabinet, and under the guise of an economic war. Laws have been adopted to ban accounts abroad, etc. But the establishment has thrust the dashing children there, or rather for the West, they are hostages, although they themselves do not suspect. These things are considered by the Supreme in this Game of Thrones and he is ready to sacrifice these hostages, because their parents are used in the dark. And when people understand this, it’s impossible to do anything late, or they’ll cut the throat here or there (of course, they are now liquidating supposedly a heart attack, cancer, an accident, but the essence is a cut throat is one hell). Therefore, like that. And through them, at least desa. So we built Poseidons and Vanguards with Daggers. Those. changed the balance of power. But the West opened its mouth and only now drove in. The same Su-57 is only a desa, they say let's go on stealth further, we are very scared All this became clear in fact, but the game is already 20 years old.

[Tank hard]

Quote: hrych

The exported capital in dashing years is not worth a penny, without wells, factories, media channels. Moreover, it damages the economy where it was exported, because zero was exported. But our renegades tried to buy something in these countries in the West, though it turned out that there really was nothing to buy, strategic values ​​were not for sale, the same factories and wells, the powerful in the world control them and did not intend to sell their power (only an illusion in the form of papers, etc.). shares). Therefore, only clubs, yachts, castles ... for which you also have to constantly pay The same Berezovsky was the richest in the Russian Federation, he became bankrupt in the EU, because he could not take out wells and factories, and he only exported ... zeros on the accounts. Moreover, in the West, the liquidation system of account holders, from Kathdafi, to Berezovsky, Patarkatsishvili and others. When he re-privatized, although many did not notice it again, they first got rid of Western corporations in the hydrocarbon market, they merged BP with TNCs, display Sakhalin 1 / 2 from the Americans and so forth. We also bought shares of our super-corporations and made import substitution with a game of lowering. This is the greatest conquest of our cabinet, and under the guise of an economic war. Laws have been adopted to ban accounts abroad, etc. But the establishment has thrust the dashing children there, or rather for the West, they are hostages, although they themselves do not suspect. These things are considered by the Supreme in this Game of Thrones and he is ready to sacrifice these hostages, because their parents are used in the dark. And when people understand this, it’s impossible to do anything late, or they’ll cut the throat here or there (of course, they are now liquidating supposedly a heart attack, cancer, an accident, but the essence is a cut throat is one hell). Therefore, like that. And through them, at least desa. So we built Poseidons and Vanguards with Daggers. Those. changed the balance of power. But the West opened its mouth and only now drove in. The same Su-57 is just a death squad, they say let's go on stealth further, we are very scared. All this became clear in fact, but the game is already 20 years old

Plusan for this post.

[SASHA OLD]

super, cool koment!

[hrych]

Quote: Observer2014

So do not care about those cons.

I’ve got it, don’t worry.

[Observer2014]

hrych (Hrych)

I’ve got it, don’t worry.

And I have no doubt. Similarly. You immediately noticed this. A direct example turned out for opponents how to conduct conversations. I understand. Not a gift. Well, there’s a VO site. : Then we will discuss the weekend mainly. Work.

[hrych]

Quote: Observer2014

Then we will discuss mainly at the weekend. Work.

[IL-18]

I remembered one episode. In our ECB, the BBC and "Svoboda" were broadcast on FM radio in 1999. Somehow I could not sleep, took out the headphones, began to listen and wow! One of the stations broadcasts that the Russian people will overthrow power and divide the country into regions with financial independence, until all wealth, finances and resources are taken over the hill, and the population is bent over from poverty. I switch to the second. And, not just a holiday, we are talking about the danger of the revival of communism in Russia, through the absorption of Europe by exported capital: there all officials will be bought up along with real estate and the rest of the economy. And then they will introduce a new CMEA and ATS with a terrible planned economy, and they will transplant all of Europe and Russia to the Muscovites and Zaporozhians, but they will take the lion's share of the dough for themselves. And the world will be saved only by the maximum possible independence of the Russian regions, then everyone will live richly, especially the regions, they will not have to maintain huge armies as unnecessary.
The guys we all were with Yeltsin were like a bone in the throat. And without breaking up, but with a strong leader, they are simply unbearable. Imagine if Lukashenko RB leads in the Russian Federation, there they will go to any dirty trick. Yanukovych survived, and Gaddafi brutally destroyed by orders of magnitude. Our oligarchy also does not want this: the legislation will have to be averaged: for Belarus-oligarchs this will be a relaxation, and our toughening. So Russia only hopes for itself.

[Icarus]

[quote] Khrych. During the Second World War, millions of men lost their lives on the battlefield, women and children were hungry at the machine-tool and at the plow, falling from exhaustion [quote].
Eco had enough. Then the whole (almost all, with the exception of individual nationalities) people united against a common enemy, being in conditions of approximately socially equal among all citizens in the face of extermination. And now some have to tighten their belts, while others are getting richer both in absolute numbers and in the number of oligarchs (they are friends of the "lordly")? Are you offering to die for the wealth of Rotenberg, Timchenko, Potanin, etc.? Or maybe it is better to nationalize the people's property - the subsoil? Restore social justice, at least partially. If we really endure "For Victory", as you put it, then the whole world. But I don't see patrons among the oligarchs who donated at least 50% of their assets to the altar of Victory.

[hrych]

Quote: Icarus

Or maybe it is better to nationalize national property - the subsoil?

The bowels belong to you, even if you do not understand it. Boreas built for your protection and your children, no more than the Rottenbergs. The fact that they are not in poverty right now has happened in 1991, and for Putin the Rotterberg’s wealth is not the main wealth or what they will share with you. For Putin, the main thing is that you do not swell from hunger and at the same time win the arms race. If you do not win the race, then the rest does not mean anything. Weapons gave us independence, weapons gave us that the enemy did not invade. It remains to suffer a little because the Victory is close, thanks to the Strategist, well, it is not for you to judge whether he is doing right or not. Pyaterochka has a mountain of tropical fruits, etc., which the USSR could not provide to its citizens. And now the average rosiyan is simply rich in comparison with the Soviet citizen, and almost every adult has a cell phone and a car. And the Soviet man was a beggar, cars were in units, a phone with a turntable was in line for 15 years, in a shop was a shish. Two tangerines as a gift to children in the New Year and all. That was such happiness. So go with your Bolshevik revolution to ... Paris. Soviet poverty is not for us. And the fact that social equality, so Bolshevism lived under communism ... is true only Obkomovites, but not ordinary citizens.

[goose]

I minus you, because everything you say is not true. An increase in the quality of life in the Russian Federation and Eastern Europe was achieved only due to the technical achievements of the world made over the past 30 years. Economically, it only got worse, many benefits disappeared. Compulsory payments appeared, which were not there before. Destroyed pension systems. High unemployment and lack of access to good education and medicine.

[hrych]

These technical achievements were already available to the citizens of the West, but to ours. There weren't really any benefits. Now graduates can enter any university, and under the USSR, figs will let a person from the hinterland into a central university. Nepotism and thugs all around. These were perceived advantages. Economically, it became better, consumption rates increased several times, the service was zero, the medicine was useless, there were no medicines, all kinds of rubbish, but it was cheap, but also stupid, dentist drills with a belt drive, the head was shaking, the seals were made of Portland cement. Uzi in the west worked with might and main, MRI has been introduced since the eighties, although our scientists have developed a method, but nothing, why our Soviet citizens, they will strip it and look. They did not give way to geniuses, the inventor of perftoran was either driven to suicide or killed. And so everywhere, and so in everything. The army was so trashy that one wonders how my neighbors' son across the street was found hanged in the barracks all beaten up, through the house of a neighbor's guy they found hanged and all beaten up in the barracks. In peacetime, coffins came in packs with mutilated children. Well, the guarantor of the state that the army is the first and fled, so I don’t need to rub a blizzard about Soviet power ... this power fled. Until the end of the 20th century, kirzachi and greatcoats, what's this? 19th century? So there the boots were good, and not this rubbish. Under the USSR, gas pipes were allowed to the West, and clumsy and raw firewood for your peasant, and then write them out, go and humiliate yourself. In the land of forests, you cannot buy a crooked board. There are many hours of queues around, there is a queue for sausages, there is a queue for milk, you go to the authorities for a lousy certificate, they kick you 10 places, you drive around the megalopolis, you stand in queues everywhere to get kicked off. Public transport deserves a description of poetry, the crush, the stench ... you wait for hours. There is no entertainment, 2 TV channels that do not show a damn thing, with a turntable switching, jeans for 100 rubles, no normal clothes and shoes. General telephony was pumped out, video tape recorders only to party members, computerization was pumped. Crime was hiding, maniacs rage, children disappear, but silence, only rumors. For decades, these monsters wielded, and the cops only ate vodka, and mocked the working people. And under Gorbat, what began? Or was it not Soviet power? Coupons, battle for vodka and soap. International massacre. And what kind of Bolshevik cadres were raised and elevated by the system to the top - Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Chubais, Gaidar, Khakamada, Borovoy ... I'm tired of listing all the communists and Komsomol members. Thank you, no more. For every word that I wrote, I am ready to answer because I personally witnessed everything in this socialist "paradise". Now there are three cars in the family, each with a smartphone, tens of millions are driven abroad, take whatever you want in the store, all sorts of rare kiwi fruits, mangoes, a bunch of types of cheeses, butter, sausages, and then ... you don't have to say about natural and high-quality, then they were already bodied from powdered milk, the paper was turned into sausage, etc.

[Bomb]

Ahah ...... well, well ..... the Soviet man did not have a phone or a car. So he did not have bondage until the end of his days. And for what now is a citizen of the Russian Federation buying himself two cars in a family and an apartment? For your hard earned salary? Or maybe for the fact that every citizen of the Russian Federation receives a penny every month from oil and gas funds? My parents are military personnel and in the 70-80s, cars and everything they needed were able to buy in installments without%. Now every second mortgage for which he overpays the cost of his property in two times. Anyone who admits such a need to hammer a nail into his head. A car on credit, any expensive acquisition again on credit. I am glad that the army began to represent something of itself, but I will never understand why a kennel in the 50m square. reinforced concrete housing costs two million and the average salary in the Russian Federation for which it is necessary to feed a family 25 - 000 rubles. I believe in my eyes and ears. As the homeless people sat on the bench 30 years ago, so they still sit.

[hrych]

Quote: Bomb

Anyone who admits such a need to hammer a nail into his head.

So forget it to those who take loans. There is a choice to take or not to take. If you didn’t take 20%, 2% would do that. The same savings bank in the Czech Republic gives at 2,5%. Why? Conspiracy theory? Yes, just the local people do not take boobies at a large percentage. That's all. And of course the competition. And what kind of shisha army, what kind of shisha Borei m Ash. What are the bridges of the Crimea and Vladivostok. For oil and gas including. And you have security that Saddam and Muamor didn’t have, even though they were crap in a golden toilet, unlike you. And you understand the cost of this security when European civilizers, and even better Asian ones, knock on your house. It has been more than once. Therefore, like, dislike, go vote, vote, did not vote, the people chose a leader and course, everything, obey or turn your head. And loans, a purely personal affair of everyone, are not forcibly forced by anyone. Everything is not subject to appeal.

[Bomb]

Well, it’s worth so much security. How I did not immediately guess. We can say that tomorrow the salt will cost 500 rubles. per kg Well, it's just that such a cost and that’s not subject to appeal. Got a choice? Who? People were left with no other choice, feed the bank or put a bullet in the forehead. Officially, you can still not reach the pension. So forget it to those who take loans. If you didn’t take 20%, would 2% do that? And why didn’t you offer to take and shoot everyone so that they don’t interfere and didn’t ask why all around you wherever you look in shit? By logic, then the whole country can try not to refuel fuel, let everything stand up and see what is more profitable to reduce taxes on production and processing, or to stand for a month without movement. The way will be draconian% in the bank and gasoline at the gas station, but the real incomes of the population should not be rogue. Let there be a horse tax on property, but make roads at least so that the asphalt in the spring does not wash away with snow. The people voted for this as well. So far the opposite is true. Now about the shisha on which bridges, factories, steamboats are being built. I pay taxes and people like me are enough to put a golden toilet for each New Year under the tree. About the objectivity of the elections, languages ​​have already been broken in the past. This is generally a vomit topic. There is no money, but you hold on ... and cotton wool does not need to be rolled into ears.

[hrych]

Is there a little salt? Which 500? What are we carrying?

Quote: Bomb

Why is everything around you not looking in shit?

So get out of what you say, maybe your horizons will expand.

Quote: Bomb

Officially, you can still not reach the pension.

An old song about the main thing? 5 years raised, then it’s impossible to survive.
People grabbing expensive cars in the cabin. So what? This is bad? Well, yes, overpaying. Once again I say - this is voluntary.

Quote: Bomb

cotton wool in the ears do not have to roll

Well right, how can cotton wool not be remembered. The Russian people bent the united European army and took Berlin in a quilted jacket, here’s your brother from cotton wool and is contorted. And cotton wool is already dressed no worse than the Bundeswehr. And with what she is armed, thanks to the current regime, no one has ever possessed such power. So go buy salt for 10 rubles a couple of tons, or even tens, then sell for 500

[Bomb]

Quote: hrych

So get out of what you say, maybe your horizons will expand.

Dear in the case, you couldn’t answer anything constructively, you are probably quite old, but judging by the comments, the level of development stopped somewhere in the region of a 15-year-old boy. Your side is a strong army, everything else will follow. Putin said we’ve been engaged in defense for 18 years, now we will be engaged in social policy, well, wait and see.

[hrych]

Quote: Bomb

the development level has stopped somewhere in the region of a 15 year old boy

What else could you say? You probably position yourself as a giant of thought But it seems to me the opposite. And blabbed on cotton, which is just from Svidomo. Therefore, do not bother me with your non-advanced comments.

[Bomb]

Svidomo I am a spy, I poison water with moonshine =)

[SASHA OLD]

Reading your dispute with the Observer at one point was on your side, at others on his side, but there wasn’t that nonsense that you wrote here in this comment: Do you speak Soviet poverty ??

Who made the country's population literate in less than 10 years, given that under the tsar (at the end of the monarchy) only 52% of the population was literate (those who could read and could write their last name, first name, middle name, those who could read the sign on store were considered semi-literate)? - Soviet Union.

Who was the first in the world to equalize the rights of men and women? - THE USSR

Who provided the FREE education to the public? - THE USSR

Who is the FIRST in the world to introduce an 8-hour work day? - THE USSR

Where were they giving out apartments for FREE: during the USSR or after its collapse?

How many homeless people have you seen in the Soviet Union? and after its collapse?

There were no cell phones under the USSR? what a pity, here we were backward ... and who they had at that time?

the questions are more rhetorical, it makes no sense to dispute them because I didn’t invent all this, but it was so ...

oh yes: I forgot about FREE medicine during the USSR - it happened during the Soviet Union ...

in the USA, for example, there is still no free medicine - and there won’t be

There were no poor as a class under the USSR, unless, of course, a person specifically drove himself into such conditions: he studied for free, received a specialty for free - there will be work - no unemployment. And now denekh started coughing up - got a diploma and where? In the regions, there are guards with higher education on posts - not uncommon - there are no plans because: everyone wanted to become lawyers! - gave denekh - unlearned, began ... and where to take everyone now ?? Previously, they will not accept and that's all - the country does not need lawyers in the next five years, go to ASG! Yes, infringement of freedom of choice, but thanks to the planned economy, everyone will be in demand and there will be no security lawyers and sales engineers in Pyaterochki

[hrych]

You understand one thing: in the USSR there was no consumer society, in the USSR there was no entertainment, in the USSR there was no civil society and freedom of speech. You object of course. But ... nature, the creator, as you want to call, made people unequal, for its development, incentives are required, which moves the personality. So the bulk of this stimulus was deprived. It was a stall. And in this sense, Soviet people were poor from the position of a consumer society (which is now). I’m not saying that the consumer society is perfect, it’s normal, but they just went too far. There is a formula for society - bread and circuses. There was bread (though they bought grain for oil and gold in the USA), but this is not about a loaf, but figuratively about consumption, about needs. And there is zero, there is no way to purchase equipment, there is no advanced electronics, there is no jacuzzi, etc. It also includes medicine and delicacies. Those. against the backdrop of a Westerner or our present, all of this did not have homosoveticus. And the Western hard worker was given 8 hours, and 2 days off, and a pension, three times, medicine an order of magnitude, etc. Those. their society developed, ahead of ours in the social sphere, but in matters of bread and circuses, as in the social sphere, we degraded. But at the end of perestroika, the world information system, as an achievement of civilization, opened the eyes of our citizen, although the political bureaucrats tried to slow it down. VCRs appeared, late of course. So it was not for everyone, they opened salons and people saw how people live. The party members saw this with their own eyes, they could ride behind the cordon. And the people decided to get out of the stall and the party members also wanted more. This is human nature. And since it was squeezed in the Union, the society is vile for the main value is freedom. And if she is not there and even a person is full, but he is a slave. Well, this ideology: party, party, Lenin, Lenin. But people need a divine image of an idol, a divine landmark. Antique Apollo or Hercules, with abs cubes and beauty of the face. And they gave what? Plucky, bald, physically weak, goatbeard and burry creature. Well, the average man’s brain, where the ideal of perfection is laid, certainly could not stand it. Have fun, demonstrations and vodka, queues for the slop Khazanov and Leshchenko, and in the West mass culture. Those. the West gave both bread (the achievements of civilization) and circuses (mass culture with the achievements of civilization). And we have? Lenin, Lenin, vodka, that's all. Sport, everything is there, please, the transition from bread to circuses, we again through the ass. That's the only difference. And if this vile entity had not died in 1991 where the Russians were already in the minority, then now the Russians would have already passed the point of no return of the ethnic group. The USSR SA and Transcaucasia bred up to 100 million, the Soviet Union brought Ukrainians from Russians to anti-Russians. Etc. where, from beginning to end, the national policy of Bolshevism is anti-Russian, Russophobic, we still rake this vomit. That's it. There was a good slogan - to each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. But the abilities are not realized and there are no needs. There was no sex culture, but for some reason millions of abortions annually and syphilis from somewhere. Fu, disgusting this is your Soviet reality.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: hrych

You understand one thing, in the USSR there was no consumer society

and this is good

Quote: hrych

there was no entertainment in the USSR

how was it not? according to his time was everything, or do you mean strip bars and brothels ..? yes, this (at least officially) was not.

Quote: hrych

there was no civil society in the USSR

civil society, self-awareness as part of it, was, it’s not now

Quote: hrych

and freedom of speech

freedom of speech in the USSR, when compared with the previous period, tsarist Russia, was complete, please delve into the material before writing this, read how the media was censored under the tsar - you will be stunned, I assure you, there was censorship in society!

Quote: hrych

But ... nature, the creator, as you want to call, made people unequal, for its development, incentives are required, which moves the personality.

yes absolutely right

Quote: hrych

for its development, incentives are required, which drives the personality. So the bulk of this stimulus was deprived. It was a stall.

come on! vice versa: people left the stall under the USSR! If before that there were only about 5% of people with EVERYTHING: all social elevators, 5% - partially (educated citizens) all the benefits of civilization of that time, then the remaining 90% did not have this, moreover, half were illiterate (for which power keeps people illiterate?), this 90% did not even provide medical care, no social elevators: your grandfather was a peasant, your father is a peasant and you will grow up and be a peasant ... with rare exceptions, and this was facilitated by such a phenomenon as "going to the people", read about the parties "Land and Freedom", "People's Will" - these were drops in the sea, but it was the young intelligentsia, realizing the huge gap in the standard of living between 5 % of the nobles and everyone else, began to "rock" the situation, the people were illiterate, that's where the stall was and not where you indicated, it started at the end of the 19th century, lasted almost the entire 19th century, the authorities, having learned about this, persecuted young people for teaching the peasants to read and write (the bulk of the population of tsarist Russia) - the authorities did not need an intelligent and thinking people, because they would start asking questions, a competent peasant would want to go to the city, etc. In general, I look at this very place where you "float" in the subject, do not understand what happened before the appearance of the USSR. That's when the people came out of the stall during the USSR: the educational program was carried out first and foremost, the program to eradicate illiteracy of the population included printing cheap and accessible books, building schools (even in the colonies !!) and libraries, and free minimal education (gradually the duration of training increased), people from 8 to 50 years old were taught literacy for free (what vicious bloody communists, right?). And only when society for the most part became literate did it gain an understanding of what it needed: someone became an engineer, someone - a mechanic, someone a chemist. The country embarked on an industrial path of development and only a competent society could move this country along this path, just after the society gained literacy, social elevators appeared for everyone. Even the outflow of the population from the village to the city did not reduce the production of bread, on the contrary, it increased, thanks to the introduction of new methods of cultivating the land ...
It must be understood that events are very dependent on each other, history is not a set of isolated situations, it is a continuous process, and the slowdown in the development of agriculture in the 16th century directly influenced the emergence of populist parties, such as "Land and Freedom" and later " Narodnaya Volya ", the successors of which were later considered to be the Social Revolutionaries, on the basis of Marx's Capital, which in turn relied on Hegel's Science of Logic, and an understanding arose that fundamental changes in society were needed ... Understanding the basic ideas building a modern country, an understanding came that changes in the structure of Russia should be fundamental, and an understanding of the need for revolution came, but a revolution is impossible without a revolutionary situation, a revolutionary situation is when all the necessary "ingredients" are available, the main of these "ingredients" is social stratification of society (and here it was the most visible and understood even by illiterate and semi-literate people) and only that lchok, trigger, which ultimately happened.
What happened next is known, I just want to clarify that it’s very difficult to answer on every line, it’s just the time and I’ll write a series of articles on understanding history as a constant and continuous process, I can’t reflect all this in the answer but believe me: I have a very there are many arguments that can make it clear that everything is known in comparison, I gave one of the comparisons. What is better: the monarchy of the late 19th and early 20th centuries, when the peasant could not read the sign when he got into the city or a worker working 15 hours in production, not protected by any labor laws or the young Soviet Union with its progressive programs and weakening (yes yes! weakening!) censorship ...

[hrych]

So strip bars are also needed, how can you not understand this? There is no way to get rid of the oldest profession, it has survived and will survive all formations. People have a need, if it is forbidden, then it will go to crime or to the Komsomol The king was overthrown, he answered for his own, as did the elite. But society, people, society rejected the Bolsheviks, that's all. Like it or I like you, or do not like it, absolutely nothing means. The people rejected this ideology and monster. The 19th century or the beginning of the 20th was one thing, but this ideology could not stand the information field, it could not stand the technical progress. The VCR destroyed the Soviet system, although it was deliberately slowed down. The people saw a normal life, saw that it was possible to have both bread and circuses. You can buy venal love and other joys of life. All. Now the Internet is certainly an order of magnitude stronger than VCRs, nowadays young people don’t even know that such an aggregate was. And so we came to the most important question - what kind of system is this that the video recorder could not stand? None. Well, accordingly, the system issued to the State Olympus such personalities as Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Dudadayev, Shevarnadze, Chubais, Gaidar and other Khakamada. What is the system, such and such leaders, such a system of training in this society, when vile and mediocre personalities are progressing. And this can not be changed. All. Gone forever.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: hrych

The people saw a normal life, saw that it was possible to have both bread and circuses. You can buy venal love and other joys of life.

people sold for American chewing gum - here I agree completely, plusanul straight from the heart

[hrych]

Quote: SASHA OLD

people sold for American chewing gum - here I agree completely, plusanul straight from the heart

No, not for sale. It is not true. Simply, the people did not want Leninism and Marxism. Because it is an alien, flawed and harmful ideology. And in fact, the Bolshevichka’s chewing gums made a release with sin, it was strawberry, etc. See how the wrong people came to the Communists, the wrong people got the liberoids.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: hrych

people sold for american chewing gum

As you understand this figurative expression, it has nothing to do with coffee and strawberry chewing plates: "Leninism" is essentially Marxism, only in a separate country and taking into account the situation. Marx did not write that "we must raise the people and overthrow the tsar!" He wrote about political economy, economics and the circulation of capital. Lenin simply drew a conclusion from this and applied it in practice. Marxism-Leninism is not static, as many mistakenly believe, it is not only subject to change, it itself assumes them. Marxism-Leninism is actually a scientific system that has proved to the whole world its viability in practice: pay attention to China, and you don't need to say that there is CAPITALISM, no, there is communism according to Marxism-Leninism, a system that does not deny changes within itself but on the contrary, it assumes them. In general, there is no pure communism, pure capitalism or pure anything else on the planet, in any socio-political system there are all or most of the elements of other variants of the system: American developed capitalism, that is, imperialism, was originally based on democracy ... But what is it democracy?
Let's look a little: demos kratos - the power of the people (democracy). It involves collective decision-making with the equal impact of each voter on the outcome of the process ... for example, the Scandinavians in the Middle Ages had a label and a king, the king is about the Grand Duke, the King, that is, the sovereign ruler ... but Konung was an elected office, as and the jarl, that is, the people choose the jarls and they choose the king, what is it: democracy or still a monarchy?
in America, for example, first the citizens vote and then the so-called. "electors" from the states, and then all this together leads to election results - this is one of the options for democracy. Under socialism (we never came to communism, but we already had socialism as a transitional stage), there were also elections, only they were built not on a territorial principle, as now, but on a production basis: a deputy from a metallurgical plant is elected, who then represents the metallurgical industry , another deputy - from environmental protection, for example - everyone is competent in their field, but now the elections are on the territorial principle ... how can a deputy of the Khanty-Mansiysk Autonomous Okrug (I live here, it is easier for me to give as an example, and my father was at one time deputy, so I saw all this "from the inside", I can judge) it is equally good to be competent in oil production, problems of the indigenous population of Western Siberia (small peoples of the north), small, medium and large businesses, road construction and a lot of other questions ..? - of course not. So this is the wrong election system, which by the way we observe every day ...
The problem of the USSR was that in the 53rd year after the death of Stalin, revisionists came to power, they immediately began to break the system through the knee, when the boiling point came, this caused a reaction: first, the events in Tbilisi, where Khrushchev decided to start an appeal with "debunking the cult personality of Stalin "(there has never been a cult as such), then Murom, Krasnodar in 61, Novocherkassk in 63 ...
This was no longer socialism, moving towards communism according to the system of Marxism-Leninism, it was terry revisionism under a communist sauce, which the people began to reject, realizing that "we are going in the wrong direction," and eventually rejected in 91.
Under communist slogans, revisionism should not be confused with socialism (socialism as a transitional stage from capitalism to communism)

[purple]

There were no poor people as a class under the USSR, unless of course a person specifically drove himself into such conditions: he was unlearned for free, received a specialty for free — there would be work — no unemployment. And now he was coughing up money - got a diploma and where?

This is the main problem. Unlearned, no matter how important, got a diploma, no matter how important, got a job, who - it doesn't matter. There should be competition for a person to strive for something, And according to the distribution, it was just necessary to stupidly attach everyone, and it does not matter that from the department where they were assigned only two out of 10 people "pulled" ... But the rest also received "education", they you also need to work.
Therefore, the current situation in terms of higher education is just a consequence of that Soviet policy ... There, as it was if you got a higher education, then everything you’ve already considered will always be in chocolate.
As my supervisor told me ... "Candidate's ... but that it's a candidate's, well, let's write something ... 10 minutes of shame on the defense, but then a piece of bread for life" ...
That’s how they lived, that’s why they gave birth to all kinds of Khakamad, Chubais, Medvedev and Borovoys with the Gaidars ... who, instead of doing science, stupidly wiped their pants and dreamed, etc. . And then, having come to power, they began to test their stupid ideas, having no practice, but simply purely for experiment, in our country

[Icarus]

Grunt. The bowels belong to you, even if you do not understand it.

I am amused. Ears do not blush? Even under the Constitution, they do not belong to us (Article 9).
The question is different. Who is the main beneficiary (beneficiary) from the use of mineral resources? Nard? Of course, something comes into the treasury. BUT!!!
"Net capital outflow from Russia in 2018 alone (According to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, net capital outflow from the Russian Federation in January-October increased three times compared to the same period last year and amounted to $ 42,2 billion.) By the end of the year, the forecast is 54 The Russian elite has withdrawn 500-600 billion over ten years.Russia's gain from high oil prices practically did not have a positive effect on the economy: the income from the difference in oil prices went into capital outflow, which accelerated due to fear of new sanctions, the chief economist of VEB believes Andrey Klepach ".

Boreas built for your protection and your children, no more than the Rottenbergs.

Boreas were built at state enterprises not thanks to the oligarchs, but in spite of. Usmanov, for example, presented an apartment in the center of Moscow to Alina Kabaeva’s grandmother. Something I didn’t hear that he gave something to the defense workers.

The fact that they are not in poverty right now has happened so in 1991

Yes, yes - it just so happened by itself. And no, not in 1991. A little later. Over the past 18 years, the number of oligarchs (dollar billionaires) has increased 15 times.

But the Soviet man was a beggar, cars in units, a phone with a turntable in line for 15 years, in a shop shish

... I do not argue. They lived poorly, but the country was also poor, more and more "brothers" were fed. I am not a supporter of that system, especially after 79. When "postscripts" in achievements flourished. And today news has passed that Medvedev has proposed to abandon the calculation of gross domestic product in statistics. He needed muddy water to make it impossible to compare "achievements" with the previous level.

So go with your Bolshevik revolution to ... Paris

Communist ideology, let alone a call for revolution, should not be attributed to me, just because I believe that natural resources should belong to the people. Social justice is very important for a Russian person, with his inclination towards community, which does not deny the existence of rich people who have earned their wealth with their wits and labor, and did not receive it through connections with the "most luminous". Where I step is none of your business. He himself attributed to me views that do not exist. Himself and the verdict made. There are no arguments, so shut up.

[hrych]

Quote: Icarus

Who is the main beneficiary (beneficiary) from the use of mineral resources?

A citizen of the Russian Federation is the main beneficiary, of which the majority, and what do you mean by primitivism of thinking, that some top manager has more than others, absolutely does not matter. It offends you that someone has more; it is envious of you. I do not care absolutely.

Quote: Icarus

Boreas were built at state enterprises not thanks to the oligarchs, but in spite of.

Again, yes because the oligarchy in the Russian Federation is destroyed. The disobeyed oligarchs were repressed and fled, the obeyed became top managers. Borea is such an expensive and complex machine, including weapons, that you appreciate this lack of imagination. And the share of participation of former oligarchs - top managers in this project is significant, unlike you, you didn’t put nickel there, you are not titanium and steel, energy, etc., with which are connected top managers who perform responsible tasks of the state. In general, I do not care about your everyday problems and the luxury of others, most importantly the people are fed up, receive the achievements of civilization, in the form of overseas fruits, mobile communications, computers, the Internet, Satellite and digital television. And people are not forced to quote Lenin and pray for the pogo-burry bald patches. Everyone now chooses who to believe and what to follow. And the people chose Putin, so obey or wish if you do not sit there in any Sumy or Vinnitsa And most importantly, the country's military power, which has no analogues, the best BR, the best submarines, combat satellites, the best strategic planes and fighters, air defense systems and the best and well-provided fighters and social welfare. The attached Crimea, the Greater Caucasus Range and the Syrian shelf. And your household whine about inequality, go preach on other sites

Quote: Icarus

Itself and issued a verdict. No argument, so be silent.

Himself ... shut up.

[Icarus]

Quote: hrych

And the share of participation of former oligarchs - top managers in this project is significant, unlike you, you didn’t put nickel there, you are not titanium and steel, energy, etc., with which are connected top managers who perform responsible tasks of the state

I seem to have guessed who you are, behind the mask of a bastard: Glavnyuk for the protection of top-menageries - Misha Leontyev, however. Well, or his closest henchman performing "responsible tasks of the state." Pierced, however.

Quote: hrych

Himself ... shut up.

Hamish. D.B. (quote from Lavrov).

[hrych]

You started to be rude about reddening ears and so on. Therefore, I received a corresponding "respect" in response. Once again I tell you, since it is difficult to understand that at the present moment, such a system has developed, the Yeltsin system has inherited, there was no other. Again, not Soviet, but Yeltsin's. And it was necessary to adjust it to win in the arms race, economic war and war for key territories. Let me remind you that the Chechen war was going on, we were wiped away from the Caucasian ridge, in the country there was devastation, separatism of the autonomous republics. Carrying out a revolution, in any way, it is like death, intervention, as in a civil one, is already fatal, take control of nuclear arsenals and that's all, forget about the thousand-year-old Russian statehood, like the fallen empires of antiquity. Therefore, Putin isolated the most odious, and among the Yeltsinists, an inexplicable death of cattle began, and the oligarchy was replaced by the institution of top managers, half of the oligarchs made a deal, and this institution at least allowed defense projects to be completed, to strengthen the state, to cope with separatism, including by force and already annex the Crimea and the Caucasian ridge, wage a protracted gas war. And if you think that it was possible otherwise from your couch, then stay there. The war, both economic and turning into battles, continues, the state system is now as it is. And it works, we are winning on all fronts with losses and losses - not millions of lives, but a slight decrease in the living standards of citizens ... in relation to Putin's times. Or when EBN helluva lot of people lived well? So it’s not a time or place to start a confusion and share property, but if people like you crawl out not to the vastness of the Internet, but to stagger the regime more seriously, then we’ll break your neck. Do not even doubt, there is will, and strength, and means. Because statehood is above all and the experience of black funnels was not applied, but it is in reserve. And with Ukraine, literally in March, everything will begin, or rather, it will begin to end. Whether my words reached you or not, it does not matter much, soon you can check on your own skin. Don't write to me anymore, I won't even bother reading the commentary. For now, live happily ever after.

[Icarus]

we win on all fronts with losses

I’m not even going to give cheap urrapatriotism counterarguments, just like peas against a wall.

So, venturing confusion and sharing property is not the time or the place, but if people like you crawl out not to the Internet, but wobble the regime more seriously, then we’ll turn your neck.

And here already it does not even smell of patriotism. "MODE". But what about the Motherland, country, person, people, brotherhood, justice (I don't mention freedom, since this term can be understood in different ways)? For you, empty words, probably. Power that is not based on a social contract and on public confidence in power leads to its instability and, possibly, under certain conditions, to a violent change of power, which for Russia, as a single state, will be a disaster in modern conditions. To keep the regime at any cost without relying on the masses or on a significant part of them, but only on the oligarchy and officials, will not lead to the strengthening of statehood, but vice versa.
P.S. Better save your neck while licking the "regime". Until then, don't cough. Don't even read it.

[hrych]

I kind of said goodbye to you. No, you climb again. A regime is a term of state order; there is nothing wrong with a word. What do you think? Where is the power not based there? Putin received almost 80%. And your dogs and Sraykins are closer to the error. Communist bourgeois with Swiss accounts okay out of 10% left , well, though Bolshevnya leaves with the old people who have survived from the mind, for they vote for the bourgeois , not the point. But Putin took most of everything, society decided, people determined, so shut up and obey, I do not like the bunks. Now Internet igiloids are being calculated and grabbed, your brother is next in line. And they will get for the cordon, but later, always need to remember an ice ax ...

[Icarus]

Compared with the previous survey (December 29, 2018), the confidence rating of the Russian president dropped by 3,1 percentage points and amounted to 33,4%. This is the lowest figure for all recent years of conducting such surveys by VTsIOM.

[hrych]

A poll is a poll, and elections are a reality. The election was recently. Moreover, the survey of affiliated polling organizations with the State Department does not have legal force. Hang (conditionally) will not be VTsiomovs and Levadians, but Putin’s security officials, so take care of your neck (conditionally)

[Whisper]

Let him then come out and say it directly. What goals, how much will continue, what are we achieving? Only specifically ...

[hrych]

He didn’t have to hide his plans from you, but outwit the enemy. Therefore, unfortunately, no one explains to the layman.

[Whisper]

Well i.e. they play us in the dark. There are cards in hand, and which ones and by what rules is unclear. And everything would be fine ... if it were not for theft around. Now, if all the white and fluffy in power were, I would believe. Well, I can’t. The technical mindset does not allow. Although writing is easy, it’s nice to read.

[Amin_vivec]

work more - and not whistle in the comments - you will live better. Learn to go. Invest. The state will not come with a bag of money to your sofa)))))

[Bomb]

Dear Ivan. What position and income do you work for? Are you a builder or an engineer?

[Amin_vivec]

He started from the bottom, went through more than one step - income is above average

[goose]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

work more - and not whistle in the comments - you will live better. Learn to go. Invest. The state will not come with a bag of money to your sofa)))))

I traveled a lot abroad, the trouble is that those who work in Russia work much more than in Europe, but we have a lot of unemployed who live on something. Moreover, they live much better than workers. In Germany, a law was in force for a long time, limiting the unlimited growth of top salaries and too low minimum salaries within one enterprise (no more than 15 times) + there was a real minimum wage for a 40-hour work week. About the same thing happened in the USSR and other European countries, but not so clearly. Where is it in modern Russia now?

[purple]

Quote: Observer2014

This is called LIVE BETTER.

Did you try to work?

[Dart]

well laid out, five with a plus ...

[loki565]

But recently he was called "the last dictator of Europe" without Russia, the fate of Milosevic or Gaddafi could well await him

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: loki565

without Russia, the fate of Milosevic or Gaddafi could very well have awaited him

Without Russia, the fate of Zhirinosky or Zyuganov under President Kebich would have awaited him.

[New Year day]

Quote: hrych

They noted that Lukashenko began to press Russian TV, invite the American ambassador and met with the Ukrainian political figure. Those. they didn’t give money, I’m ready to go to the enemies.

by the end of the term the tomos will go to receive, do not be surprised

[Beater]

Quote: Wend

Belarus in Russia as a region on subsidies. Belarus is well fed, which is not enough for them. I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

Echidnichat everything is great, but why does our cool Medvedev about Ukraine keep silent about everything, because there are huge debts and blood is pouring in the Donbas and in general Natsik marching around Kiev? Have not thought about this ..?
Think who benefits from all this ..

[private person]

and in general Natsik marching in Kiev? Have not thought about this ..?

Your suggestions? Going war on Kuev?

blood is pouring in the Donbass
Don’t worry about LDNR but the territory of Ukraine had to be waved with a saber when the Union was divided and now this is an internal conflict. Russia already does a lot in terms of helping LDNR.

[Gardamir]

Your suggestions? Going war on Kuev?

However, they went to war in Minsk. Bye words. you still say glory to Medvedev! What a fighter with Lukashenko.

[private person]

In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, - note “IN”), taking money out of our economy. It should be appreciated, arguing about allied relations.

I am not a fan of DAM, but even if he spoke in such a plan about his closest partner and ally, this is after his words: There is no money, but you hold on. So something went wrong in relations between Belarus and the Russian Federation.

[Vend]

Quote: Beater

Quote: Wend

Belarus in Russia as a region on subsidies. Belarus is well fed, which is not enough for them. I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

Echidnichat everything is great, but why does our cool Medvedev about Ukraine keep silent about everything, because there are huge debts and blood is pouring in the Donbas and in general Natsik marching around Kiev? Have not thought about this ..?
Think who benefits from all this ..

No need to turn aside. The time will come and say about Ukraine, and he said.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Wend

The time will come and say about Ukraine, and he said

2013 interview with Russian media
“The decision about where to be Ukraine and what to do should be made by Ukraine itself, the Ukrainian people and, naturally, the Ukrainian leadership, the power that the Ukrainian people created ”.

[Brturin]

Quote: Beater

but that's why our cool about Ukraine keeps silent about Ukraine

Stanislav above and as an addition, it’s obvious you missed
Russia has officially imposed sanctions on Ukraine. The corresponding decree was signed on November 1 by Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev - https://topwar.ru/149157-ves-cvet-ukrainy-rossija-vvela-sankcii-postanovlenie-podpisano.html
December 25, 2018 Russia has expanded economic sanctions against Ukraine. The corresponding resolution was signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev - https://topwar.ru/151783-medvedev-rasshiril-antiukrainskie-sankcii.html and as a continuation when the resolution itself was issued - https://topwar.ru/151976-rossija-vvodit -zapret-na-import-rjada-ukrainskih-tovarov.html

[New Year day]

Quote: BrTurin

Russia has officially imposed sanctions on Ukraine.

first uploaded an extra 200 billion S, and then imposed sanctions?
Russian investments in the Ukrainian economy grew 2,5 times, reaching almost 1,7 billion dollars. Businessmen from the Russian Federation have invested almost as much as all the EU countries combined.https://lenta.ru/articles/2017/03/03/ukrinvest/

[Brturin]

Only here is the structure of these investments - the lion's share of the capitalization of subsidiaries of Russian banks
$ 1700 million of investments - $ 865 million (Prominvestbank) - $ 490 million (Sberbank) - $ 67 million (BM Bank) = $ 278 million. the next question that is often asked including and Belarusian comrades, and these banks work in Crimea (how many volumes of comments on this topic ...) ... if you discard all these finances, so how much Russia invested ....
"According to Ukrstat, the financial sector enjoys the greatest attention of Russian investors. As of October 1, 2016, almost $ 4,1 billion was invested in shares of Ukrainian banks and insurance companies, which amounted to approximately 88,6% all Russian investments. The reason for the sharp increase in the volume of direct investments of Russian business in the Ukrainian economy in 2016 was also infusion into the financial sector. In February 2016, the Russian Vnesheconombank decided to increase the authorized capital of its Ukrainian subsidiary Prominvestbank by $ 800 million - 19 billion hryvnias to 39 billion hryvnias. The capital increase was carried out by converting loans previously provided by Vnesheconombank into it. Later, Prominvestbank’s capital was increased by another 1,6 billion hryvnias ($ 65 million) by private placement of additional shares. In the fall of 2016, VTB Bank also recapitalized its Ukrainian subsidiary BM Bank, increasing its capital by 1,65 billion maneн
https://www.rbc.ru/economics/01/03/2017/58b6bdba9a79470972f25e4a
The Supervisory Board of Sberbank of Russia decided to increase the authorized capital of a subsidiary bank in Ukraine by 4,3 billion hryvnias, or by 52%, to 12,5 billion hryvnias (490 million), the Ukrainian bank said in a statement. https://ria.ru/20160419/1415369342.html

[New Year day]

Quote: BrTurin

the lion's share recapitalization of subsidiaries of Russian banks

and what do our banks do in a hostile country?
Sberbank, for example, under an agreement with the Ministry of Finance of Ukraine buys ... Ukrainian military bonds. That is, in fact, Sberbank of Russia sponsors the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, with its "anti-terrorist operation" in the Donbass, the bombing of civilians with the use of artillery and aircraft.

[alexmach]

and what do our banks do in a hostile country?

Business is being done and the market is being staked.
That’s how appropriate this business is to do - a separate issue. They used to say that they would be happy to just sell it, but potential buyers are not stupid and want to buy something for a penny.

[Brturin]

The question should be rather, what did our banks do? What did you do until recently (ask Gref or Kostin) - I don't know and do not approve, but you write what they are doing and give statistics for 2016, as if nothing happened in the past (and during this time, at least, volumes of comments, including here, including on your questions, and I don’t remember, to put it mildly, a great deal of enthusiasm for their activities), and the beginning of 2019 is already in the yard and there are already investment statistics, at least for the first half of 2018 (and can be compared with 2016) - so why look so far and pretend that nothing has changed? Although in the same March 2017 the quote for which you quote Poroshenko imposed sanctions against five Ukrainian banks with Russian capital. What is happening now, I think you know the same. Shareholders of BM Bank JSC, a Ukrainian subsidiary of VTB, made a decision to terminate banking activities, and VTB-Ukraine was declared bankrupt (the license was revoked on 18.12.18/XNUMX/XNUMX) and is being liquidated. Prominvestbank - VEB was unable to sell its daughter and decided to follow the path of winding up business in Ukraine. Sberbank tried several times to sell his daughter, but the National Bank did not give it (the National Bank refused to approve the acquisition of a credit organization by the Belarusian Paritetbank), its shares were seized, its branches were destroyed, ATMs were damaged, in response, restrictions on cash withdrawal were introduced, and the National Bank was again allowed to sell and again does not give ... Finish with the liquidation of VTB Ukraine may take on it, but maybe not ... "the main thing ... to get out in time" has become a classic, but ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Beater

Have not thought about this ..?

From what ... Repetition in Minsk is quite real.

[alexmach]

Echidnichat all much, but why Medvedev our cool about Ukraine keeps quiet

Because as Kiev, we began to fasten the taps slowly 10 years ago. And to Belarus, the attitude has so far been and is as to the closest ally. But Lukashenko became insolent to the extreme. Petty blackmailer and hysterical. And most importantly, what words began to throw, and what to threaten?

[Amin_vivec]

By the way, Belarus didn't stain the pens with blood for an hour in this war ??? It is beneficial for you - weapons, accessories for armored vehicles, fuels and lubricants, "pagonya" ...

[stalki]

Belarus is well fed, which is not enough for them. I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

And where does greed, Belarus, the last outpost in front of our border. You can pour dirt on Lukashenko and Belarusians as much as you like, but it won’t be any easier for us, but we’ll lose our neighbor, get ready for the worst case scenario. 2 options: either negotiate, or take the Belarusians back. There will be no third, or rather, a check. And no one wants to understand that fshi play on this figure. By all means, blood from the nose must cut the connecting threads between us. They already had a training in Ukraine. We must hold on to each other, then it will be possible to judge everyone who is guilty of these squabbles and arrange a debriefing. And now you need to include your head and choose the words.

[Vend]

Quote: stalki

Belarus is well fed, which is not enough for them. I would like more, as in a joke about a cure for greed.

And where does greed, Belarus, the last outpost in front of our border. You can pour dirt on Lukashenko and Belarusians as much as you like, but it won’t be any easier for us, but we’ll lose our neighbor, get ready for the worst case scenario. 2 options: either negotiate, or take the Belarusians back. There will be no third, or rather, a check. And no one wants to understand that fshi play on this figure. By all means, blood from the nose must cut the connecting threads between us. They already had a training in Ukraine. We must hold on to each other, then it will be possible to judge everyone who is guilty of these squabbles and arrange a debriefing. And now you need to include your head and choose the words.

This has already taken place in the USSR. They fed everyone, creating outposts. Did not help. As soon as it started to shake, friends ran up through the bushes, and overstepped into another camp.

[stalki]

That's why they fled, I think many already regret that they have become "independent". I just didn't have enough brains, the top rotted away. And now is the last chance to rethink everything.

[Vend]

Quote: stalki

That's why they fled, I think many already regret that they have become "independent". I just didn't have enough brains, the top rotted away. And now is the last chance to rethink everything.

They regret this fact, but fled because the brains had the power to rake up for themselves. But competently leading the country of mind was enough. No one personally and voluntarily dares of power. As the saying goes, let it be thin and mine.

[stalki]

They regret this fact, but fled because the brains had the power to rake up for themselves. But competently leading the country of mind was enough. No one personally and voluntarily dares of power. As the saying goes, let it be thin and mine.

So I’m talking about this to the gutter

[naidas]

Belarus is a neighbor, and fraternal peoples are those who want to live in the same Crimea as Russia, the DPR, the LPR, and it’s necessary to help them and it’s not shameful.
A neighbor can live with whoever he wants, as he wants and there is nothing to be done, he is a neighbor, and it is not necessary to share your wallet with him.

[stalki]

That's just the point that not just the neighbor. And you understand that very well. Well, if you don’t understand, I’m not able to explain it to you. It is necessary at the subconscious level to penetrate. Can you separate the Anglo-Saxons from each other? America from the UK? It is they who only seemingly wearing different shirts, and so one thing about.

[loki565]

Just this game with one goal, we owe and we don’t have anything. In the USA, the allies harness and help all conflicts. If they are our ally, they could help us in Syria, at least somehow. You look, and they would get a piece from the Syrian oil pie, which prevents their company from organizing and selling oil there, but it’s easier to ask us. And how is our ally recognized Crimea as Russian ???

[stalki]

What do you think the allies are harnessing for free?

[loki565]

So I about the same, harness help, get money. Belarus does not harness does not help, only begs new concessions.

[stalki]

This is not concessions, this is minuscule in comparison with the fact that the FSHs unfasten their own.

[sdc_alex]

Belarus is the last outpost in front of our border

In this regard, I propose to chip in the whole country for 2, no for 5 rubles. "to help" the Belarusian brothers. So that they continue to protect us from the nasty western horde ...
Well, what kind of protection you have to pay .... here Belarus protects us, and for this we will pay.
SO FOR YOUR ????????

[stalki]

You yourself understand what is wrong. No need to simplify.

[sdc_alex]

proceeding from your speeches it turns out exactly SO ...
Lukashenka directly says that either Russia pays, or he "stops loving us all" and finds a new owner. It turns out that Russia must pay to have an ally. And without money "there will be no love."

[stalki]

Well, Lukashenko says, it’s necessary to come to an agreement with ours if our last brains haven’t drunk and find a solution, but if ...... then the mistake made by our center with Ukraine is better not to be made. She will be fatal. Let's just say that we sometimes need to borrow the tools of the enemy. The softness of our strategists is already hitting.

[sdc_alex]

I didn’t have to play with brothers in Ukraine ....
They are trying to play the same game with Luka right now, but he is trying to sell his "brotherhood" for a high price (because he cannot offer anything more serious).
An interesting such product is the "tariff fraternity".

[stalki]

You are rightly saying that you didn’t have to play fraternity, there were Russians only with a distorted consciousness, you had to lick less with the panes, clean the pores of the Nazis and Bendera with a broom. Even with an alliance outside the country or for fertilizer. But time has been lost with Lukashenko, it is necessary to negotiate or take eggs, but not turn away and not back down.

[Amin_vivec]

but maybe vice versa - you need to provoke Maidan there? maybe then recovery will come faster ???

[loki565]

And how is our "outpost" officially recognized the Russian Crimea ??? I somehow missed this resolution.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: sdc_alex

So that they continue to shield us from the filthy Western horde ...
Well, what kind of protection you have to pay ....

Well yes. Only our common neighbors, who cover the entire Free World from the eastern horde, are paid exclusively with promises and bonded loans. Can it adopt "advanced Western experience"?

[sdc_alex]

Personally, I believe that it is NECESSARY and for a long time.
In general, there would be much to learn from amers.

[Vasyan1971]

It would be worth what there ...
At the same time, I would like the desires to coincide with the possibilities © and then, as if the wings would not singe ...

[Fantazer911]

I set + and why is it a minus, strange, does the system itself determine the answer and rating?

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: stalki

Belarus is the last outpost in front of our border.

This does not mean anything. Georgia, Ukraine, Baltic states. And what an outpost with such ambitions.

[stalki]

It may not mean anything to you. I knew that they would meam here, well, yes, I’m violet in cons. The main thing is that someone understands me. The habit of forehead saying what I think.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: stalki

It may not mean anything to you.

What do I have to do with it? Just look at the map.

Quote: stalki

The habit of forehead saying what I think.

The habit is good, but not always appropriate. Well, yes, you can see better.

[stalki]

So look at the map

[Vasyan1971]

Looked. What I wish you.
Georgia - the border of 723 km.
Ukraine - the border of 1576 km. (excluding LDNR)
Estonia has a border of 290 km.
Latvia - border of 292 km.
I do not consider Poland and Lithuania near Kaliningrad, Finland, Norway and other Moldova.
Belarus with its 959 km. does not channel.
And, by the way, I recommend refreshing your memory for the meaning of the word "outpost" and correlating it with the actions of the dad.

[loki565]

Did our "outpost" recognize Crimea as Russian?

[Vasyan1971]

I need to ask stalki. He is probably in the know.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: loki565

Did our "outpost" recognize Crimea as Russian?

Gref admitted!

[loki565]

What about Gref? In Crimea, there are no problems with Sber’s cards, just like mobile operators themselves, and the fact that the same banks have a different sign, capitalism in the yard, or they would have begged for help for the sanction costs)))

[stalki]

Belarus with its 959 km. does not channel.
And, by the way, I recommend refreshing your memory for the meaning of the word "outpost" and correlating it with the actions of the dad.

But nothing that is the middle of our western border? The point is not in extent. To Moscow at hand. For you, it may not channel, but for the FSE it will do. That's Poland, it’s filling its price. Across Europe, roads are being prepared. Logistics is being improved. The Russian world will never be left alone. We can be brave, we can pound in the chest with our fists, and the FSI will systematically rake our former lands. To pull together crumbs troops in NATO. We can love or hate the old man, but Belarus is a Russian land, he may not recognize the Crimea or send us. And the teeth will have to be clamped and negotiated or taken for eggs. We’ll miss it, the scales will finally outweigh not in our direction. And believe me, I’m not one of all props.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: stalki

To Moscow at hand.

There will be no war of the "Ain Column of Marshiren" und "Zwein Column of Marshiren" type. Distance to Moscow is not a determining factor. From the Baltics to St. Petersburg, it is even smaller. And don't forget about Ukraine. Someone who will be happy to help. But not for us. And do you seriously believe that the dad will fit in and cover the tank-hazardous directions with his chest?
Recent NATO exercises have shown how European roads are being prepared ...

Quote: stalki

We can love or hate dad, but Belarus is Russian land ...

For some reason, Belarusians have a different opinion. And not only opinion, but also action.

Quote: stalki

And the teeth will have to be clamped and negotiated or taken for eggs.

Nude ...
And while our nuclear triad is still alive, the scales will not outweigh in any direction.
About "negotiating" and so on, the alexmach who noted below said well. Neither add nor subtract.

[stalki]

I am glad that we have a triad, but this is not a panacea, the Union has proved it, muscles are not necessary for the collapse of the state

[Vasyan1971]

The conversation becomes pointless.
Incidentally, I have not seen your fiery speeches on the next branch about "enemies around" from Lukashenka. What happened?

[stalki]

I'm not a couch general there’s so much time to fight here. I write mostly on the go. And the conversation that there that will be about the same. The wife is ready to take the rolling pin in her hands. Grumbles that the family traded in so if possible.

[Vasyan1971]

Well, what is not a general - I see. And with a rolling pin, be careful. The strategic type of weapons, after all. The consequences of the application may be irreversible ...

[alexmach]

Quote: stalki

2 options: either negotiate

To pay to the blackmailer? Well, such an option.

Quote: stalki

either take Belarusians back

Do they themselves want them to be taken away? In all opinion polls they sing in chorus about the value of independence in general.

[stalki]

Do they themselves want them to be taken away? In all opinion polls they sing in chorus about the value of independence in general.

Ukraine also sang about value. And now it is "dancing".

[alexmach]

Ukraine also sang about value. And now it is "dancing".

Well, so they decided to go in the same direction as Ukraine. Officially, they are already talking about this.

[stalki]

Who speaks, where speaks? Direct speech please to the studio. Where it will be said that:
- we Belarusians go to you America.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: stalki

Who speaks, where speaks? Direct speech please to the studio.

And who and where says that Belarusians are torn into Russia? Or do you propose to please them with an explicit procedure?

[stalki]

I do not propose anything, our center will propose and implement. And Belarusians are Europeans like us and are not as naive as Ukrainians. We can only look. And I have respect for Belarusians, which will not be erased by the west wind.

[Vasyan1971]

Well, what about
"Quote: stalki
or take Belarusians back "?
Anyway...

[stalki]

I speak from the position of Russia, selfishness is certainly present Of course, if you have to ask.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: stalki

Of course, if you have to ask.

That right immediately from the heart eased! Amen.

[stalki]

Well, at least not hallelujah.

[Vasyan1971]

Naturally. And here is Yahweh?

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: stalki

Yes, where does greed

listen to Lukashenko

Quote: stalki

Belarus is the last outpost in front of our border

how in the modern confrontation Belarus manifests itself as a "FORPOST", what as "FORPOST" can it do in the event of an open war, taking into account modern means of destruction?

Quote: stalki

either take Belarusians back

why did they leave?
now they consider themselves "Belarusians" but not Russians, they do not want to be a part of the Russian Federation, they would like - everything would have happened long ago.

Quote: stalki

And no one wants to understand that fshi play on this figure. They have to cut the connecting threads between us at all costs from the nose nose.

We understand this, the SGA understands that we understand, the SGA understands that we understand only WE, but Belarusians and Ukrainians do not understand

Quote: stalki

They have already trained in Ukraine

And made sure of what I wrote above

Quote: stalki

Gotta hold on to each other

First of all, BELARUSIANS need to hold on to us, otherwise it turns out that while we unfasten the "nishtyaki" for them - they pretend (MAKE it look) that they are for us, almost something wrong, not in their way - they are like a capricious child: since mom does not allow - I'll go ask my uncle (Sam) - he's kind ... This is not friendship, this is a game with only one goal, such an ally is unreliable, will betray at the most crucial moment.

Quote: stalki

And now you need to include your head and choose the words.

EXACTLY! only this IM need to turn on the head and follow the words ...

My personal conclusion: you deliberately turned everything upside down as if we MUST do it, it is primarily in OUR interests ... No, it is primarily in their interests, and they should start thinking about it. We are with them as with a younger brother: we forgive all the shoals, we give money for toys, and this "brother" is like a wolf cub: no matter how much you feed, everything looks into the forest (towards the West). When he goes to his good uncle (Sam), he won't tackle with him like that - he'll give him on the forehead and kick the joint to correct it - for a while! Time has gone! I do not like? Come here! he will take the last pocket money and say "If you grow up, you will give the rest!"

So let them think

[stalki]

My personal conclusion: you intentionally turned everything around as if it was we MUST, it was primarily in our interests ... No, it was primarily in their interests, and they should start to think.

We must protect ourselves. And these are our interests. We have already missed a bunch of territories. Belarus is the last link with the loss of which we finally lose influence and authority on the part of eastern Europe and in the Slovenian world. The one who occupies strategically important dominant positions wins, and so far we are only losing. You did not convince me, I did not shake your position. Yours faithfully

[Gerassim]

Old Man of course is sharp, but he remained the last buffer in the West, there the enemy will not be allowed to pass unambiguously ..

No, the old dad has become touchy. In a purely old-fashioned way, he pulls a pretty penny into his pocket as best he can. Well, and shout in the back: "... a prostitute ..." On the bench near the entrance, no one canceled ... And there is no buffer, already.

[Dubox]

Lukashenka behaves like a "woman of easy virtue". The UN abstains on our resolutions, does not recognize Crimea and Abkhazia with Ossetia, but how can you give discounts ON BROTHERLY or else I’ll leave.

[Antares]

Quote: Dubox

The UN abstains from our resolutions,

Mostly, Belarus has a pronounced pro-Russian position at the UN. And almost always they vote for the proposals of the Russian Federation

Quote: Dubox

Crimea and Abkhazia with Ossetia does not recognize

The Republic of Belarus did not notify such events. There were no agreements. Compensation for such actions was not provided. Therefore, Lukashenko is not connected with the recognition of Kremlin stupidities with actions with neighbors, creating dangerous precedents primarily for the Republic of Kazakhstan and Belarus.
Yes, and the Russian Federation itself half recognized its satellites.
For stupid actions, even the American allies do not fit in. Rhetoric can but not military actions.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Beater

Medvedev began singing for good reason liberalists ... Well, well! Let the gentlemen continue to persecute Belarus! They sing in unison.
Old Man of course is sharp, but he remained the last buffer in the West, there the enemy will not be allowed to pass unambiguously ..
This is not Ukraine ...

Well, let's send fuel to him, and he Poroshenko to drain it.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Something a lot of news about Belarus recently.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Something a lot of news about Belarus recently.

Yes, no .... Old Man peddled. He says something about teeth, someone is going to try. I suddenly remembered about Donbass. Tossed shorter.

[Russia]

And in the spreader, and under his nose, he went all the way, but his eyes mow in the right direction and the ears on the top of his head.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich

Something a lot of news about Belarus recently.

dad suffered

[New Year day]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Well, let's send fuel to him, and he Poroshenko to drain it.

I don’t want to defend Lukashenko, but for the sake of truth ...
During January-March 2018, diesel fuel imports to Ukraine grew to 1,08 million tons, which is 14,7% more than in the same period in 2017.
The largest volumes of deliveries were made from Russia: in the first quarter of 2018, diesel fuel produced by Russian refineries amounted to 526,3 thousand tons, which is more than double the volumes for the same period in 2017. The largest suppliers of diesel fuel are Rosneft refineries. So, since the beginning of the year, Prikarpatzapadtransa oil pipeline delivered 421 thousand tons of diesel fuel to the discharge points of Novograd-Volynsky (Zhytomyr region), LPSS, Smyga (Rivne region), and Dubrinichi LPS (Transcarpathian region). Another 48,2 thousand tons of Rosneft’s pipe diesel fuel was delivered to Ukraine via the Belarusian railway through the Belarusian Railways.
In turn, another 39 thousand tons of Russian diesel fuel was delivered from the eastern border. Similarly to transit through Belarus, the resources of the Antipinsky Oil Refinery and Salavat Oil Refinery come to Ukraine from transshipments of the oil product pipeline of Transnefteproduct AK in Russia.
Up to 17 thousand tons of diesel fuel were delivered by sea from the Russian Federation: 8,2 thousand tons of diesel fuel produced by the Lukoil refinery to the port of Nikolaev, and 8,7 thousand tons of the Orsk refinery resource in the towns of Yuzhny and Zaporozhye.
In the first quarter, deliveries of Belarusian diesel fuel decreased by 23,6% - from 553,1 thousand tons to 422,4 thousand tons. As a result, the share of Belarusian diesel fuel in import amounted to 39,1%.

[HAM]

You are mistaken - they are not "hounding" Belarus, but figures accustomed to rule at someone else's expense ...

[GKS 2111]

"In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, - approx." VO "), taking money out of our economy. It must be appreciatedtalking about allies. "
For once, I agree with DAM .. Grygorich needs to be somehow more modest, considering-
"that credit support for Belarus already exceeds $ 6,5 billion, not counting loans for the construction of a strategically important Belarusian energy facility - a nuclear power plant."

[Stepan8019]

Read to the end LOANS! we do not require a return immediately !!!! LOAN UNDER 2.5% !!!! when you take a loan from a bank, is it help or all the same commercial relations! ???
But the Russian person does not understand loans (repayable) and subsidies (without repayable). ...

[nathanael]

Actually, I don’t know if this is true, German banks give Gazprom loans from 4 to 6 percent. Depending on the priority of the projects

[ancestors from Don]

In the Czech Republic, Sberbank gives out to local enterprises at 5%, there is such arithmetic about loans in the West, Russian banks do not have their own funds, they take at 5-7% in the West (China is more expensive and require real estate as collateral), and then to the Russian citizen under 11- 15% are already giving out, that's why they are "poor". Usurers in their pure form, do not even think about investing in the economy.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Stepan8019

Read to the end LOANS! we do not require a return immediately !!!! LOAN UNDER 2.5% !!!! when you take a loan from a bank, is it help or all the same commercial relations! ??? But the Russian person does not understand loans (repayable) and subsidies (without repayable). ...

The first competent comment.
Most, like the government, feel better
invest in state papers for less than %%.

[naidas]

And why is it literate, according to Lukashenko, there are places to be cheap loans that will give back sometime and subsidizing raw materials for Belarus is free of charge.

[hrych]

Those. Do you need to build a nuclear power station for nothing? A nuclear power plant will generate electricity and generate income.

[Naive]

Tell me where Rosatom builds for real money? In my opinion, Rosatom needs this no less than ours, and if everything is calculated, then even more ...

[hrych]

For this, lending is a profitable project in the future, both in the Russian Federation and in the country where the building is. Also, if something goes wrong, the station will be blown up.

[vasek5533]

If Russia would not give credit, then there would be no station either, because there’s nothing to build it for, and the Rossatom would not have earned 10 yards and the Russian Federation would not have earned interest on the loan, all the stations of the Rosatom are built like this, and therefore he wins tenders. But here it is presented as a debt, like thank you say that we harnessed you for 10 years in bondage.
The DAM campaign is generally weak in the subject of everything that it speaks of, a talking head of some kind. It’s also cool that most of the pluses are collected by comments where they praise Medvedev, as if hinting that the electorate is zombified as it should.

[hrych]

Salvage, i.e. loan money is paid not to the Turks, but to ours, of course there are partially local contractors. But equipment, etc. will be done by our hard workers. And the Turks will pay interest. Then our operator will own half of the nuclear power plants, i.e. half of his income, i.e. RF But the loan, after all, will be paid by the Turkish side and with interest. And who said that this is not profitable. And also the eternal seating on our TVELs. Ukrainians tried to switch to import, but nothing came of it, they trumpeted that they were switching to Westigaus, and quietly signed an agreement with us

[private person]

Look on the Internet how much and how much Russia has forgiven debts lately. For example, I, too, would not mind taking a loan at 2,5% with the possibility of repayment as far as possible.

[naidas]

And I would not refuse to receive, in addition to a loan at 2,5%, a subsidy for food and a communal apartment.

[hrych]

Nobody forgave anyone anything if Iraq had their debt canceled, but they got a weapons contract, got preferences in Kurn and a terminal was built in Persian Gulf. Cuba also canceled debts, but received concessions for the development of mineral resources and, above all, oil. And so almost everywhere. In the future, these debts that were distributed by the Bolsheviks will pay off and bring profit.

[private person]

Who will bring profit and will it bring?

Debt was canceled for Iraq, but received a contract for weapons, received preferences in Qurna and a terminal is being built in the Gulf

Why the joke forgave the debt but got a contract for a weapon, maybe you are aware in the sense of the amount of debt and contract. But a contract can come out the same way as a debt.

[hrych]

Quote: private person

Who will bring profit and will it bring?

A nuclear power plant is extremely beneficial for the state’s energy sector, but dependence on the builder and fuel supplier is critical. Also in the same Turkey, Rosatom will receive 50% of the income from nuclear power plants, plus the loan and interest on it. When the pipe and the terminal from Kurna are completed, the dirty bast shoe will be delivered at the world gas station

[private person]

Your words to God in the ears. Yes, the prospects outlined by you are impressive. Only there is still China and the USA which I think do not like everything described by you because they themselves are not averse to warming their hands.

[hrych]

Quote: private person

they themselves do not mind warming their hands

The problem of the PRC and the USA is critical dependence on the external hydrocarbon market, and the Russian Federation is not only self-sufficient, but does everything to become the hegemon of this market, everything is clear with gas, the Russian Federation has thrust pipes into Turkey and Germany ..., Rosatom has almost captured 17% of the market nuclear fuel fabrication and 52% of the world's enrichment capacity. And in terms of oil, we are part of the triumvirate of production leaders and 13% of the world, but the Syrian shelf, Arctic reserves and control of wells in Iraq, Cuba (and other small fry who were "forgiven" debts) in the future of Venezuela will allow us to hegemonize in this energy market ... And in the energy sector there is a third of the share - coal, and this is a third of all energy. The Russian Federation is the third, of course, in exports it is inferior to the two undisputed leaders of Indonesia and Australia, but the USA is twice ahead of the 4th. And it reduces the consumption of coal by its gas.
The energy market looks like this

[private person]

Russia plunged pipes into Turkey and Germany ..., Rosatom almost captured 17% of the market

So these pipes need to be filled, and the reserves of gas and oil are not unlimited. 17% is also a controversial indicator. To one hundred I have a question, do you write all this yourself? Where do you get the information from?

[hrych]

Quote: private person

I have a question do you write all this yourself?

No, a small squad of Asians works for me, all the daughters of the officers ... in helmets, to protect me from being hit by comments

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: hrych

in helmets, for protection against blow by comments

helmets lined with foil inside?))

[Antares]

Quote: hrych

USA - critical dependence on foreign hydrocarbon market

why is the largest oil producer critical addiction? In any case, they win. They have both their own consumption and maximum production. Both the consumer and the manufacturer in one person! And the prices can form and are not connected with OPEC. And their technologies are cheaper.

[hrych]

Quote: Antares

why is the largest oil producer critical addiction?

Since he is one of the three leaders in production from the Russian Federation and the SA, but the trouble is that the United States needs as much for consumption. Those. The United States actually devours its production and conditionally CA completely. And the fact that their ally Indonesia left the market (consumption caught up with production), Iran, Venezuela, the Russian Federation, etc. are not controlled by them. And the Syrian shelf, with reserves like half of the US reserves, went not to them, but to us. The defeat of Iraq did not live up to expectations, etc. It is said that the United States will soon lose a controlling stake in oil production, and this is the end of price formation on the London and New York exchanges and control of the oil equivalent - the dollar. Indeed, now Trump is squeezing everything out of American oil production in order to somehow influence the inevitable, but it does not lead to anything, the price drops slightly and will soon win back. So it was with the sheikhs, it all ended in failure, only Qatar and the Saudis disintegrated Now its own oil production is being sacrificed, but the market has already survived and whether America will stand ... everything is on the verge there. Russia does not care at all because of complete self-sufficiency, so the standard of living of citizens has slightly decreased, because there is no second such country on earth.

[Amin_vivec]

do not forget that the oil produced in the United States - is mostly exported))) and for yourself s buy oil more acceptable in quality)))

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Antares

And their technology is cheaper.

our technology is better, believe me. I worked in UKRSiPNP (Office for Overhaul of Wells and Enhanced Oil Recovery) in Surgutneftegaz for several years, communicated with the guys from Houston and Austin, we went to them and they came to us, we bought from them drilling rigs with drills for of diagonal and horizontal drilling, made according to our projects, the purchase of drilling equipment was the only thing that was beneficial to us: the quality of workmanship was better there, although it was more expensive than if ordered from ourselves, when we mastered the production of drills - that's it - we said goodbye. But they were crazy about our telemetry, the technology of electroplating, with all the methods of side drilling: they are much more technologically advanced than theirs. And about enhanced oil recovery (EOR), in general, about the fact that this is how they can learn from us, and then only about the fact itself: to this day our specialists travel to the United States and are engaged in EOR there.

How much have you worked in the field of exploration, drilling, production as an engineer, or at least a technologist? Or maybe you have experience in an adjacent area?

[vasek5533]

Forgiven Belarus? look, you will be surprised that 0.

[sdc_alex]

Why Russia should love Belarus for free, and Belarus Russia only "for denyushka". And if Russia does not give this deny, then love will end.

[Win1945]

this is a brotherly help in understanding the inhabitants of VO for which Russia needs to bow at its feet) !!!!! LOAN !!!!! at 2.5%, it’s fraternally donating money. Well, you guys are giving here ....

[sdc_alex]

Well, robbery ... it was necessary to give so ...
and here ishsh chago thought up, under 2,5% !!!!!

[vasek5533]

Do not distort, no one asks for nothing. And generally speaking ... At the end of 2013, Belarus received $ 450 million, and in mid-2014, another $ 1,55 billion in a loan with a rate pegged to the value of Russia's federal loan bonds on the Moscow Exchange. After the "Krymnash" and economic problems began in Russia, for some time the rate on this loan exceeded 10% per annum. Well, whoever says this, the locals need to throw in that everything is free for Belarus, from the budget, from pensioners, therefore the pension age has been increased.

[sdc_alex]

Quote: vasek5533

Do not distort

We didn’t drink at the Brudershaft !!!

And in general, that you wrote the key phrase "Belarus got"! Remind me when and where Russia received something of equal value from the gentlemen "brothers".
But for some reason the Russian Federation should be "fraternally" for everyone!

[vasek5533]

If Belarus didn’t receive anything from the Russian Federation for free, then why should you give something for free? And although 2 military units of the Russian Federation rent military bases at a price of 0 rubles. So there you go. There is something free for you ... I think, in the light of the latest twists and turns, now pay. What they fought for, as they say.

[loki565]

When I took a loan from the bank, they approved me from 12-18%, and here 2.5% is a bit more than inflation. Probably the dad has a better credit history than a citizen of the Russian Federation)))

[SASHA OLD]

about raw materials with discounts do you prefer to keep silent? about Belarusian shrimp (the semi-illegal smuggling business in general, to which Russia has turned a blind eye for a long time)?

[Gardamir]

It must be appreciated

As everyone just found the enemy, Medvedev is already a hero. So, have you raised your retirement age to help Lukashenko?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

Have you raised the retirement age to help Lukashenko?

Eh, I see, the former ease is lost ... There, it seems, to replace, a comrade with a red cross pulled himself up. So you can immediately see a fresh look, pressure and fighting enthusiasm.

[Mountain shooter]

"The water has gone into the hut" ... Does Minsk think that it has "sucked" forever? So smear with mustard ...

[Stepan8019]

Moscow thinks it is the only one; there will not be Moscow; it will be someone else! The law of nature, it’s like a husband abandons his wife in marriage, wives often get married and live well, and men get drunk and degrade. ...
The young lady can’t afford to dance, do not puff. .... sit ojin at home. .. PS. I am personally against the lackeys, as well as against arrogance. The Russians have already sold the USSR in 91 for Bush’s legs, now they will betray Belarus for the ladies’s liver. .. only ordinary Russian people will not live better! But Dimka will drive a couple of lards into a roundabout

[2329 Carpenter]

Well will be different, and let yourself be. If only Belarus was good! Look, Ukraine now has a different sponsor - that’s how they became with him. Strong damn, beautiful ... Independent!
But Lukashenka will not be added this popularity to the Belarusian people. And how will he end his career - well, he knows!

[purple]

Russians have already sold the USSR at 91 for Bush’s legs

Are you adequately respected?
USSR just sold Ukrainians with Belarusians .... recall where the gathering took place?
As well as the results of the referendum .... You wanted to stop "feeding Moscow" ... as a result, later it turned out that they were fed completely the wrong ones, and the wrong ones

[revnagan]

Quote: purple

USSR just sold Ukrainians with Belarusians ....

And what, Gorbachev and Yeltsin-h.o.kh.ly? Here's the method ..... As for the referendum, 80% of Ukrainians said "yes" to Ukraine as part of the renewed Union.

[Antares]

Quote: purple

USSR just sold Ukrainians with Belarusians .... recall where the gathering took place?

always said that we are always to blame for you .. And RI destroyed and the USSR .... magic ...
Sold ... the Russians woke up and we all have already sold ..

Quote: purple

Like the results of the referendum

The Presidium of the Supreme Council of the Ukrainian SSR supported the holding of an all-Union referendum. Additionally, the second question was included in the bulletin: “Do you agree that Ukraine should be a part of the Union of Soviet sovereign states on the basis of the Declaration on State Sovereignty of Ukraine? "Yes or no"". The first question was answered in the affirmative by 70,2% of the voters who voted, 28% spoke out against, the second question about the inclusion of Ukraine into the Union of Soviet sovereign states, 80,2% of the voters answered in the affirmative.
But we still sold everything with the Belarusians.

[naidas]

Belarusians sold the USSR in 1991. By signing the Bialowieza Agreement, 10.12.1991/263/1 Belarusian deputies put the agreement to a vote. 2 deputies voted for ratification, XNUMX voted against and XNUMX abstained

[Second major]

Yeah, the Russians sold in the 91st. are silent about Shushkevich ?!

[Tank hard]

Quote: Stepan8019

Moscow thinks it is the only one; there will be no Moscow; someone else will definitely be

Well, Poland, for example. Poland needs Belarusian products?

Quote: Stepan8019

The young lady can’t afford to dance, do not puff. .... sit ojin at home

The principle of a girl with reduced social responsibility ...

Quote: Stepan8019

Russian already sold the USSR at 91 for Bush's legs

Slander implicated in chauvinism.

Quote: Stepan8019

only ordinary Russian people will not live better!

We will understand without a runny nose.
Fair wind ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Stepan8019

Moscow thinks it is the only one; there will not be Moscow; it will be someone else!

so in your opinion normally means ... well, what kind of friendship are you talking about then?

Quote: Stepan8019

The young lady can’t afford to dance, do not puff.

Well, you yourself have identified ...

- Girl, you sleep with me for 10 thousand bucks?
- ... Dddaa ...
- And for five hundred rubles?
“Who do you take me for?”
- For whom I accept you already clearly, it remains to clarify the price!

[Stepan8019]

So the Caucasus sucked and the republics of the USSR and Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands, etc. ... by the way, Moscow too! ! )))
What are you going to do ??? Will you get a garden ring? ))))
Sometimes it’s not clear what people think. ...

[AnpeL]

AK and the Caucasus sucked and the republics of the USSR and Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands, etc.

Well, something completely skidded you somehow. It seems that Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands and the Caucasus (even the North only) are still the territories of Russia, and if we are talking about gas, then these territories should receive it at domestic Russian prices.

[naidas]

It is one thing to feed a family (one country) and another thing a neighbor.
So you help your neighbor, no matter how good he is?

[irazum]

It would be better to voice the "credit history" of banana-lemon cannibals, Syria, Venezuela, Central African Republic and other feces ...

[Amin_vivec]

Syria Crimea recognized))))) Syria is an ally))))

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Medvedev recalled that credit support to Belarus already exceeds $ 6,5 billion, not including lending to the construction of a strategically important facility in Belarus’s energy sector - the nuclear power plant.
The old man simply "does not know" about the loan. He believes that this is how it "should" be ....

[rayruav]

Well, finally Medvedev issued at least something intelligible

[Russia]

Pat the head, but no more.

[irazum]

Medvedev cannot give out "intelligible" a priori ...

[1536]

It is not clear who in this situation is a grumpy wife, a cheated husband, or a strict father and a negligent daughter. This is the situation when silence is gold. Otherwise, the mother-in-law will win.

[naidas]

The conversation is not about the family, but about the ransomware neighbor, otherwise the other neighbor will be crap under the door.

[Sayan]

But father disassociated, like a scoundrel dog, yapping, and here they show him his place ... so far, affectionately

[major071]

Minsk buys 24 million tons of Russian oil per year. 18 million of them go to Belarusian factories for processing, another 6 million are re-exported to Europe. Oil is supplied without levying an export duty at the border, which means that the final price is lower than the current world price by precisely this amount. When re-exporting part of the fuel, the duty is sent to the Belarusian budget. The abolition of export duties in Russia means that oil will be delivered to Belarus at higher world prices and Minsk will also have to abolish duties at its border in order to maintain the profitability of its oil companies. Lukashenko estimates the loss of the Belarusian budget at 10 billion dollars.

[Mih1974]

I have been asking Ukrainians for a long time and now let's ask this question to Belarusians - here you, under all sorts of pretexts, want to buy gas and oil in Russia NOT at world prices (those that Russia sells to Germany, for example) prices, but for some reason at a "discount" Well, what about YOU - US selling at a discount? Well, well, to voice the list please, we ourselves will decide for us this is enough for you to sell something at a loss. Moreover, it is high time to publicly and openly declare that ONLY citizens and firms of Russia can expect to buy at domestic prices.
If you want what is at domestic Russian prices, apply for the inclusion of your territory in Russia, and we will consider "we need you or we will leave you as it is."
Painfully this is a one-to-one anecdote "first we eat yours, and then each our own."

[Morphius]

that’s not the point, I think we are buying gas at what prices ??? judging because we have to buy our resources at bargain prices, but those oligarchs who stayed here milk the country and Old Man knows that, in my opinion everything is more complicated, they have almost socialism there, and then terry capitalism, so they don’t fit together ..

[Mih1974]

Explain to me a fool - okay, cheating from oil refining and all kinds of excise taxes, our gasoline is "not a joy" for us, but HOW does the desire of Belarus fit in here and earlier Ukraine or Poland won for some reason to buy oil or gas not "like the rest in the World" but be sure with additional discounts? Nothing but impudence can explain this. Actually, the "dad" finally got stoned - not only did he not recognize Crimea or Ossetia, but he also breaks all world records in the supply of "Belarusian shrimps" Instead of full alignment of legislation and everything else and joining Russia (to be stronger together), he "my_khata_s_krayu" but wants to carry smuggling through his "garrison meter" in trains. Excuse me, but why is Russia? For pisyun, a penny chlorinated American chicken, if through reciprocal barriers we revived poultry production in Russia, why are filthy chemical podlatsky apples - if, under the ban in Russia, they began to restore orchards and from the messages "a new apple orchard" is replete with in SuN? When I hear - "The Belarusians were denied a loan for gas and oil," I personally have no sympathy for either Belarus or Belarusians. I repeat - if you want to buy at Russian prices, JOIN Russia!
And there is no need to mmmmm "balaboling" that "self-identity is important to us" - there are no Chechens, no Chukchi, well, they do not suffer at all from the lack of "self-identity."
"oh, you will make us learn Russian" if you do not want - do not teach, live in your "village" and do not tweet. And whoever thinks that his "Ukrainian melodious language will be rattled" somewhere in Munich or Paris, then - BREAK. They will look at you like idiots, "obizyan who fell from a tree yesterday."

[Gardamir]

he did not recognize either Crimea

And what? Vaughn Gref did not recognize and no one writes an article about him. And then an explicit order to drown Lukashenko. What do you know about the economic relations between Russia and Belarus? Do you have all the bookkeeping in your hands?
And why should Belarus go under the Alekperovs, Rottenbergs, Timchenko?

[naidas]

Quote: Gardamir

Won Gref did not recognize

If it’s about Sberbank, it’s a financial office, and Belarus, if I’m not mistaken, is also political. Or is it only economic, as a Sberbank?

[www3]

Quote: naidas

Quote: Gardamir

Won Gref did not recognize

If it’s about Sberbank, it’s a financial office, and Belarus, if I’m not mistaken, is also political. Or is it only economic, as a Sberbank?

but only Sberbank owns 50% of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation))

[naidas]

Quote: www3

but only Sberbank owns 50% of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation

And what do you want to say, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is in the Crimea:
295011, Republic of Crimea, Simferopol, st. Sergeev-Tsensky, 12/4

[Amin_vivec]

if you don’t want to sell - don’t sell))) or leave the restriction - they say only to Belarusians, but I think Lukashenko will also appear among these names

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Gardamir

And what? Won Gref did not recognize

warm and soft ...
so it looks like one another, which is probably why you confuse them ...

[Antidote]

All right, of course, but there is one caveat ™. Electricity is sold to China at 80 kop / kW, and 4p50 kop / kw are sold to its population in the Transbaikal Territory, through which there is a transfer of this electricity. That's why?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Antidote

Electricity is sold to China at 80cop \ kW, and to its population in the Trans-Baikal Territory, through which there is a transfer of this electricity, 4p50cop / kW is sold. That's why?

There are probably a lot of intermediaries hanging on wires.

[Consultant]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Probably a lot of intermediaries hang on wires

Plug-in electricity is by definition more expensive than electricity in a power plant. Somehow I already brought the layout for a long time, too lazy to look.

Well, and intermediaries, of course - where are the kids from them?

[Mih1974]

Forgive me, you have never bought a "bag of flour" (well, for example, if you have a homemade bread maker, like mine), was it never surprising that 5-10 kg are "per 1 kg" cheaper than the standard 2 kg packages? That is, if a buyer IMMEDIATELY takes away an ochriniard of something from you, then it will obviously be sold by you cheaper than "by a teaspoon".
Although here you still need to look at another point, namely "social security of its citizens." That is, it is necessary to create deliberately more attractive conditions for its citizens, but you still need to see the "calculation" of the price for both China and the residents of the Far East, suddenly this 4p is already at a discount from the cost price. And in general - in Russia I will kill the "anti-popular government" in fact - thieves and co-corruptioners to Power and to expect something from them "for the people", it must be a complete idiot. Only by POWER The people will be able to kill these ... mmm "bad people in the leadership of the country" to knock out something for themselves, there are demonstrations, strikes, strikes !! "All to the barricades" is more relevant than ever for Russia (and prepare a pitchfork for the Chubais so that they do not have time to escape ).

[Mih1974]

No "we daragiya rasiyane not sharpened" because both virgin lands in Kazakhstan and cities and factories in Ukriya destroyed by the Nazis and Belarus from the ashes of the WHOLE country were restored !! and there were Uzbek and Russian and Georgian and Tatar and Buryat, EVERYONE was equal and built everything for everyone. And then: the Kazakhs "for the common" Baikonur - demand millions of dollyars a year, while ALL the content and development remained in Russia, they demand this loot "just for letting you do something here". And the Ukrainians - not just at all the devils that arranged the devils, sold to our (and them too) ENEMIES ALL the secrets (developments, drawings, finished samples), they also stopped selling to us what we need for defense Nuka nuka byalorussy nuka tell us how on your idea "that Belarusians and Ukrainians mastered the oil fields of western Siberia " does this apply to Belaz or the "Druzhba gas pipeline", eh? I don’t even remember that in the USSR only Ukrainians or Belarusians would build gas and oil pipelines, but now no one has any problems demanding money from Russia for "pipes built by all."
And yes, I don’t understand at all why WHY Russia should give preferences to Belarusian milkmen before our Russian ... You would have decided there you are "brothers" to us or how, otherwise when YOU need "well, my brothers", and when Russia or the Russians - "we are a free country that we want, we will turn back."

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Mih1974

"that Belarusians and Ukrainians mastered the oil fields in western Siberia"

I'm from Surgut, by the way, and here there are local Ukrainians in the second (children of the settlers) and the second-third-fourth (children-grandchildren-great-grandchildren of the exiled) generation, so the descendants of the settlers in the train of thought are like "It's bad here, it's cold .. right there , It is warm and sunny in Ukraine now, my aunt writes that she went to work in one sweater yesterday ... "-" Well, if you feel so bad here, what are you doing here? Go to your aunt ... "-" Here she is! THANKS! we raised Western Siberia for you, made it a rich region, and now that’s it, leave? ” - "Well, what did you personally do? Nothing, your dad, yes, I mastered the region in the 70s, for a lot of money, by the way,"
In fairness, I must say that yes, Ukrainians and Belarusians TAKE part in the development of oil fields (my mother and father have been living here since 72, mother from the Urals, from Chusovoy, father from Liepaja, Latvia, Russian, during the collapse of the USSR his mother , my grandmother, his brothers-sisters were "asked to leave" - ​​the Russians, and even the grandmother was a party member - they moved to Baltiysk in 92), but you have to understand that they were not the majority: everyone worked, of any nationality living in the territory The USSR, the discoverer is, in general, an Azerbaijani-Talysh Farman Salmanov, there is even a street named after him in the city ...
But the Ukrainians and "White Rus" believe that it was THEY FOR US who mastered Siberia (well, at least they don’t shout that they did it with all their wide soul for free) ...
I repeat: here from the settled ukrov and Belarusians such opinions are heard - though such personalities are often sent by the forest

[Mih1974]

Yes, it's time for "such conversations" already and really beat the face. I'm not kidding, what does it mean "it's warm in Sumeria now", that is, he lives and gets a lot of money from you (well, we otstoril Siberia for you as a lazy Russian) but wants warmth like in Ukria? Well, so - in the face of his face and kicks to the station in Sumeria, for to hell with him "we built everything for you", but you are not able to make warmth like in the Canaries.
Okay, you don’t want to kick them out, just ask the question - "what mmmm do you miss in our UNCHANGEABLE climate for centuries, what kind of climate are you HERE if everyone knows that HERE is warm like Odessa won't be for hundreds of thousands of years? Maybe you're a masochist (that's a reason to stuff your face) why are you sitting here in the cold? "

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Mih1974

Okay, you don’t want to kick them out, just ask the question - "what mmmm do you miss in our UNCHANGEABLE climate for centuries, what kind of climate are you HERE if everyone knows that HERE is warm like Odessa won't be for hundreds of thousands of years? Maybe you a reason to stuff your face) why are you sitting here in the cold?

Yes, people constantly bite on such phrases, just recently I went to visit my parents, my mother talked about a similar case, one shot blurted something like that at the dacha during NG holidays, was sharply besieged

[Mih1974]

They should not be upset with a "hump on the hump", or without quotation marks. For these scum at any moment will become the same Bendera people as then at the end of the war At a minimum, you need to get rid of them if you kill and hang them so far is not legal.

[Antares]

Quote: Mih1974

I have been asking Ukrainians for a long time

Quote: Mih1974

if you want to buy gas and oil in Russia NOT at world prices (for what Russia sells to Germany, for example),

price is tied to political affairs. Loyalty in exchange for banknotes.
The more requests the Kremlin has, the greater the pressure on the price. The more opposition from partners.
By the way, Ukraine paid more than Germany (the price was higher than Germany) with a smaller shoulder.
And it still gave rise to all sorts of trade wars and Onishchenkov ..
Ukraine jumped off a political needle, but financially it is very expensive. RB is harder to jump off.

[Mih1974]

What the fuck are you talking about? Well, please tell us under what kind of "discounts" the americas have put half of the countries of the world with cancer so that they "jump to their tune"? You don’t like the answer, so I’ll voice it for you - and the Americans don’t make any discounts to ANYONE, on the contrary, they survive all the juices and if they want “color revolutions! Arrange it. Therefore, it is high time for Russia to stop“ feeding ”the naughty, and it is high time “hit on the head with a stick.” Here is Lukashenka's kick about recognizing the Crimea, or is there some Pashinyan there - at once to steal preferences, cut loans, check “what kind of Belarusian kryvetkas are these” or “why are we supplying weapons to Armenia for free? ". And in general ALL preferences are only for territories in the STRUCTURE of Russia, and all the rest are" similar to varying degrees. "

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Mih1974

What the fuck are you talking about?

he also changes phrases in the comments, distorting the meaning or even rubs sentences

Quote: Mih1974

Well, please tell us under what kind of "discounts" the americas have put half of the countries of the world with cancer so that they "jump to their tune"?

in his comment there is no longer a phrase about the American discount ...

[vasek5533]

You came up with a discount. For some reason, you think that since they sold 24 million tons at a price lower than the world level, this is a loss of the budget. But do not come to mind that Belarus will not buy 24 million at the world price, since this makes no sense? So it turns out that budget losses will happen after the price increase, and now there are no losses, and there is no such item in the budget, contain RB. Here is to allocate a loan and earn money on it - there is such an item in the budget.

[slm976]

vasek5533

For some reason, you think that since they sold 24 million tons at a price lower than the world level, this is a loss of the budget. But do not come to mind that Belarus will not buy 24 million at the world price, since this makes no sense?

Your words would make sense if Belarus bought this oil only for its own needs, then yes - it buys as much as the dough is enough, but it resells the oil, buys at the "brotherly price", sells it at the market ... the difference is pocketed and lives on it.
In addition, it also refines at its refineries and sells refined products, that is, in fact, at our expense, it takes away from us a part of the oil and oil products market .... therefore your logic is flawed - Belarus will not buy, those to whom it pushes its oil will buy directly petroleum products ....
Everything is simple here, Lukashenko offered to moderate his appetites a bit and get a little less rich on resale, but he’s not so used to it anymore, it’s not fraternal, that’s why all this hysteria

[Olezhek]

In addition, it also refines at its refineries and sells refined products, that is, in fact, at our expense, it takes away from us a part of the oil and oil products market .... therefore your logic is flawed - Belarus will not buy, those to whom it pushes its oil will buy directly petroleum products ....

They all know this perfectly and better than the Russians.
Just a fool include. Professionally.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Olezhek

They all know this perfectly and better than the Russians.
Just a fool include. Professionally.

absolutely so!

[vasek5533]

You are not at all in the subject.
1. Belarus does not resell Russian oil.
2. Themselves contradict: ...but she resells oil, buys at the "brotherly price", sells at the market price ... she puts the difference in her pocket and lives on it ... Lukashenka was offered to receive a little less fat on the resale ... If oil is not at the "brotherly price", then there will be no broth, which means that no one will buy 24 million tons and the budget of the Russian Federation will suffer losses. But, again, Belarus does not resell crude oil.
3. Belarus refines oil at oil refineries. Yes, money also flows from this Russia, not, well, not to the budget by itself.
4. And all the hysteria is not because of this, but because Russia wants a single market, and somehow does not want equal conditions in this market. But you can’t talk about it, it's easier to yell about freeloaders.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: vasek5533

If oil is not at the "brotherly price", then there will be no broth, which means that no one will buy 24 million tons and the budget of the Russian Federation will suffer losses.

doesn’t carry it - just sell it to someone you would sell if you bought

[vasek5533]

Nope, it’s not so simple with oil, it’s not so easy to limit production, it’s not a market where everyone will buy something. And the same gas still needs to be delivered through the pipeline, and the costs should be subtracted from the price, and it turns out that they kind of sold, conditionally, for three hundred, but got 200, or even 150.

[Mih1974]

Well ka nuka tell us about the "common market" in which Russia imposes restrictions on "bad" importers, and Belarus through its "border meter" has become almost a world leader in the "production" of seafood and dates.
As a minimum, this is not decent and "not brotherly" !!
And just try to vyaknut "well, if the shrimp packaged in Belarus - this is BELARUSIAN shrimp" ... Nobody forbids them themselves to cover the whole of Belarus with these shrimps and "dates" at least a meter layer, but it is mean to drag them to us to us this - not according to the law and not by concepts.

[vasek5533]

The common market is the EAEU. Have you heard about this?
You buy sanctioned goods in a Russian city, in a Russian store where the goods were delivered by a Russian supplier who transported the sanctioned goods across the Russian border, where Russian border guards and customs have long stood. Somewhere at the beginning of the path of this sanctioned goods, it was possible that Belarusians were not clean on their hands, working very closely with their Russian comrades. And it’s very easy for the Russian authorities and incorruptible police and officials at any stage of this chain to stop selling these products and punish their citizens, but no, nothing happens. It’s easier to shout about Belarus.
And yes, shrimp is a processed product.

[Mih1974]

And I will answer you, even more than answer. Yes - thieves, smugglers and creatures at our customs, in the police station and many other places, but we only catch them (albeit not a part of them), we plant them (it's a pity that not a stake). But what in Belarus, and here is the PRESIDENT, personally protested for justifying such a counter-band under the idea "well, we here poured shrimp into a bag from a barrel - that means this is already a Belarusian curvetka" . Forgive him that PERSONALLY loot on this steals? It's like he sank to this, instead of false promises to "find and punish" these "excuses".
After this, forgive me to such a "too smart" - any "smart" response is applicable.

[Mih1974]

I will answer you very mercilessly - 1) if the Belarusians don’t buy oil, then someone else will buy it, but no matter how cruel it sounds 2) if the Belarusians don’t buy oil from us at world prices, then they will pay MORE (it does not matter to us or others) for oil products, because such is the economy "the product of redistribution is more expensive", which means they BUY our oil 3) if they do not buy oil or gasoline from us, then they will ride and carry on horse-drawn carts .
I repeat for those stubborn like you - WHY Russia (Russian companies) should sell oil to Belarus cheaper than to the World if they DO NOT sell us any goods or resources that are important to us?

[vasek5533]

The beginning is formidable, and then complete ignorance of the facts. 1) well, your oil will not be lost, it is clear how much the question will go to the budget, Belarus transferred the duty to the budget. 2) Belarus does not buy oil products for itself. It sells just petroleum products. If he buys oil at the world price, it will still be in the black, because "a redistribution product is more expensive." Of course, this will not be the same income.
3) this will not happen.
Read about the EAEU, you will understand why, otherwise you will argue as if there is nothing other than oil. If Russia initiated the EAEU, so what Belarusians didn’t think of spelling out there, there is also about oil.

[Mih1974]

I'll start from the end - there are no eternal borders (countries) or eternal treaties ... Everything is always changing, borders are moving almost always Wars, treaties change due to changes in the conditions that led to their signing, look what the merikases are doing, almost all the treaties have already broken, they are completely in legal chaos, really in the World there is a "wild west" nuclear Colt - that sucker and before the "cowboy".
But with regard to oil, you are wrong. Now, especially when, by agreement within OPEC, Russia reduces oil sales, we would even benefit from the situation of reducing sales to Belarus, as a minimum and we will comply with the agreements (more loot to the budget due to the higher oil price) and force the fascist regime of Ukraine to pay more for gasoline (it will collapse faster) and even squeeze the cunning "dad".
Yes, yes, I am perfectly aware of all the problems and horrors in the Russian economy and ubly.yudkakh to the government (and there, read everything ublyu.dki), but forgive me to watch how the "cunning brothers" sit on the sidelines and wait until we put things in order here instead to share with us and now adversity and then joy - I am disgusted and "not brotherly" it is on their part.

Okay with oil, but the counter-banding through the "meter of the border" by dad - really pisses me off ... Well, he doesn't want to join our counter-sanctions, damn you "not brothers", eat jamon (although it is not prohibited as many mistakenly think) and give yourself shrimps and mussels. But for the fact that you are trying to weld on this - forgive rudeness.

[SASHA OLD]

excellent competent koment!

[Mordvin 3]

In other words:

Quote: major071

The abolition of export duties in Russia means

that Russia is aligning domestic energy prices with world prices, and with zero duties by 2024, gas and gas prices will be equal to European prices. This was the WTO condition, with which the Old Man does not agree, putting the EAEU in the first place.
And I want to ask Medvedev and Putin, the European climate, they will drive us, or what?

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Mordvin 3

European climate, they will drive us, or how?

yeah, the Gulf Stream is turned to the Urals and Khakassia)

[morpogr]

Woke up and shouted, and even diplomatically and on the topic. We need to wake him more often, maybe there will be more sense.

[saveall]

In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, - note “IN”), taking money out of our economy. It should be appreciated, arguing about allied relations.

Well, apparently in Belarus they are hinting that they want to raise the price of loyalty ... They want to sell their loyalty at a higher price. Well, why? Prices are growing everywhere to make ends meet ...))) Apparently they (not ordinary people of course, but those in power) are haunted by the Ukrainian example when the West sends tranche after trench into this black hole and everything goes into their pockets. God forbid the Belarusians (in the sense of the people) from such Western "happiness".

[Andrey Chistyakov]

You forgot to mention one more. Tranches-tranches, and already minus the Crimea and the Donbass, At least for now.

[Antares]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Tranches-tranches, and already minus the Crimea and the Donbass, At least for now.

not already, but after.
Tranches came after the stabilization of the front. Before that, it was not clear what would happen to the state.
After all, Ukraine almost collapsed after the Crimea and Donbassunkitonichone did not promise. There was nothing — neither the army nor the money, only a small part of the passionaries.
and 13.22% are lost temporarily. But much more was lost, if the bet on patriotism had not worked, then 2/3 of the regions could not have been freed, and there would have been not 13.22%, but much more.
The minimum will remain - there is no longer the same attitude towards any inclinations of the "People's Republics" in connection with the Kremlin's policies and the showcase of the disaster in ORDILO (if they were taken to the Russian Federation and the standard of living was corrected, then yes, but the gray zone = sad)

[edvardmiloslavsky]

“In fact, we are helping (the Republic of Belarus, - approx." VO "), taking money out of our economy" - it is foolish to deny this.

[My doctor]

Quote: edvardmiloslavsky

“In fact, we are helping (the Republic of Belarus, - approx." VO "), taking money out of our economy" - it is foolish to deny this.

And not from the US economy. Why don’t you say that you credit the United States many times more in exchange for receiving ... I don’t know what. But what do you get in return
No offense. It was trolling. In fact, the people of the Republic of Belarus are looking at what is happening with the curiosity of an outsider. People have the opinion that this applies only to the Lukashenko regime.
Nothing more to add.

[vasek5533]

It's stupid to believe it.

[NordUral]

And why rejoice? Liberators will all find a "worthy" use for the people's money, which they, out of their insolence, do not consider the people's money.

[taiga2018]

some kind of strange understanding of alliance by Lukashenko, we need an allied Belarus, pay money ...

[Bypassed]

After the formation of the EAEU, what is the meaning of the union state? If it has not grown together in more than 20 years, can this project be closed there? And this is very beneficial for Russia - it will save money on officials and buildings.

[Alexander Galaktionov]

Medvedev would have looked at himself as he introduced zero duties for Boeing and then would have blown, and pension reform with an increase in VAT

[Scud]

Long before the oil-financial dispute, Lukashenko kissed passionately with the ukropovsky murderer of gutting, I am already silent about recognition of the Crimea. There will be more further.

[Stepan8019]

Well, you get rid of the last ally. ...what's next ? Will life become better? So there will be liberals and the latter, the army and navy will want to get rid! ))) when a woman, then: and in childbirth and grief until death do us part ....... but no, no! Rastovanny budze without sadness .....

[Andrey Chistyakov]

What does Crimea not recognize as an "ally" ?!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

What does Crimea not recognize as an "ally" ?!

Yes, for the same reasons as Sberbank.

[Antares]

Quote: Mordvin 3

Yes, for the same reasons as Sberbank.

funny but commentators from Gref so do not require loyalty in recognition as from RB!
Apparently Gref is another state on another planet.
RB is obliged. But Russian companies are not.
The official response of Minsk was (like Gref)

Russia does not make claims against Belarus due to the fact that official Minsk still has not recognized the Russian status of Crimea. This was stated in an interview with Tut.by by Belarusian Minister of Foreign Affairs Vladimir Makei.

[vasek5533]

As Putin said, so that the Sberbank does not substitute.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Stepan8019

Well, you get rid of the last ally.

from what?

Quote: Stepan8019

Will life become better?

Yes

[Snickers]

Of course, I understand that the Old Man is not an angel, and he makes boorish conditions, almost with blackmail, but, damn it, and 3 lard to Yanukovych, and everyone canceled debts by the Papuans, and how much Ukraine scolded for 25 years - that's a shame for him --- like an ally, and they tear three skins from him. But he is to blame - Abkhazia, Ossetia, Donbass ...

[Tzar]

Not such a tough answer ... But it is high time to enlighten this merchant by fraternity!

[Beater]

Who is Medvedev to roll a barrel on Lukashenko ..? He survived in the 90s, when everyone and everyone was torn to pieces, enterprises went bankrupt and just handed over scrap shops and so on ..?
Lukashenko is the only one who has managed to save at least something and the people are still living stably (without gas and oil reserves).
And the liberals are raiding, the oligarchy is eager for Belarus, because there are so many largest enterprises lagging behind the USSR that still exist and work for the benefit of the people .. And they do not work badly!
Tractors "Belarus" throughout Russia, albeit without bells and whistles, but right on the road can be repaired and cheap.
And yet, most importantly, Belarus in the western direction lagged behind alone, and in which case it will fight to the last partisan for all of us .. Have already forgotten the history of many.?

[tatra]

And here they minus those who are FOR FRIENDSHIP between Russia and Belarus, either paid Kremlin bots, or enemies of Russia who want Russia to have no allies.

[Beater]

Quote: tatra

And here they minus those who are FOR FRIENDSHIP between Russia and Belarus, either paid Kremlin bots, or enemies of Russia who want Russia to have no allies.

They want Medvedev as president, this can be manipulated by Irina ...
And just something wrong is going on .. Few Nazi Ukraine to us?
The brothers gathered here looking serious .. Well, well ..

[Russia]

Quote: Beater

Quote: tatra

And here they minus those who are FOR FRIENDSHIP between Russia and Belarus, either paid Kremlin bots, or enemies of Russia who want Russia to have no allies.

They want Medvedev as president, this can be manipulated by Irina ...
And just something wrong is going on .. Few Nazi Ukraine to us?
The brothers gathered here looking serious .. Well, well ..

I look here met two loneliness, safe apartment or something you have here, completely beguiled the coast.

[Beater]

Quote: Rusland

I look here met two loneliness, safe apartment or something you have here, completely beguiled the coast.

But your gang was organized here and the race starts right .. Well, well ..

[Russia]

Quote: Beater

Quote: Rusland

I look here met two loneliness, safe apartment or something you have here, completely beguiled the coast.

But your gang was organized here and the race starts right .. Well, well ..

What kind of gang? I ask for nicknames, appearances, preferably in more detail, a set of measures to ensure the safety of witnesses are guaranteed to you.

[Beater]

Quote: Rusland

What kind of gang?

Liberasty site ..)))

Quote: Rusland

I ask for nicknames, appearances, preferably in more detail, a set of measures to ensure the safety of witnesses are guaranteed to you.

This will all be expressed, then ..
In the meantime, I have no time ..Baiting is coming, here you came running ..

[Russia]

"In the meantime, I have no time .. The bullying is coming, here you have run over .."

Still, they overlaid you I understood your condition: where to pull off, where to flush.

[purple]

Minus here those who carry nonsense.

[naidas]

Rather, they plus (the number of pluses is greater than minuses) those who are against friendship for 30 pieces of silver, like a paid Kremlin boat and an enemy of Russia, I want Russia to not have such corrupt allies and for all-round and any help such as Crimea, the DNI, the LNR and others who are ready to share with me life in Russia.

[Beater]

Quote: naidas

As a paid Kremlin boat and an enemy of Russia, I want Russia to not have such corrupt allies for all-round and any help such as the Crimea, the DPR, the LPR and others who are ready to share life with me in Russia.

Do you want to escape to Russia ..))) Stupid comment ..and many of you got divorced here, to the noise?

[SASHA OLD]

which allies? those who are constantly engaged in blackmail? if you don’t compensate, we’ll leave to the West, do not let shrimp trade? and we will go to the West! Do not invest in our economy? - we turn to the West ...
this chtol "ally"? this "ally" will be the first to betray

[Russia]

Do not write nonsense please, go down to the sinful earth.

[Sayan]

Quote: Beater

Lukashenko is the only one who has managed to save at least something and the people are still stable (without gas and oil reserves.)

At the expense of Russia, therefore, should sit quietly and sniff in two holes.

[Gardamir]

[quote] [At the expense of Russia / quote] Kid, how old are you? They also bred in the late 80s enough to feed the republic.
Does everything go to Belarus that our pensioners lack? Or are Russian oligarchs malnourished?

[Sayan]

Starikashka))), I am absolutely not opposed to investing in the Belarusian economy, energy supplies at domestic prices of the Russian Federation and cooperation in other areas, but it infuriates me that for Russian buns Lukashenko is yapping toward Russia and fucking with his gums. PS what does our senior citizens?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Gardamir

everything goes to Belarus, what do our pensioners lack?

Well, as required. In the second round I went ... So far in the second ...

[Beater]

Quote: Sayan

Quote: Beater

Lukashenko is the only one who has managed to save at least something and the people are still stable (without gas and oil reserves.)

At the expense of Russia, therefore, should sit quietly and sniff in two holes.

So you can agree that ALL of Russia lives at the expense of Moscow!
Belarus is a self-sufficient republic, but it covers Russia in the western direction (the only one ..) And stop yelling here, about the crust and other nonsense .. Here is geopolitics.
I can’t do much more, along the way we are being prepared for rebellion by liberalism ..

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Beater

Belarus is a self-sufficient republic

then why does she always ask for discounts and wants investments and also loans at such a percentage, which is not even for citizens of the Russian Federation?

Quote: Beater

but it covers Russia in a westerly direction (the only ..)

what covers? What military benefit do you have in a global war? What political benefit did you have at the moments when we needed it? (I'm talking about Crimea)
from what Belarus "covers" us? This is not the first time you write this, please enlighten us

[Beater]

Quote: SASHA OLD

what covers? What military benefit do you have in a global war? What political benefit did you have at the moments when we needed it? (I'm talking about Crimea)

Actually, I’m from Russia .. The concept of benefits is extensible, so to speak, then Moscow can remain from Russia ..)))) She feeds everyone, because she gives out subsidies

Quote: SASHA OLD

from what Belarus "covers" us? This is not the first time you write this, please enlighten us

From NATO, or do you think this structure is friendly to Russia ..? Then there’s nothing to talk about with you ..

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Beater

From NATO, or do you think this structure is friendly to Russia ..? Then there’s nothing to talk about with you ..

They invented themselves, asked the question themselves, answered themselves and made the conclusion themselves - "Then there is nothing to talk about with you?"
rotten idle reception, train better on cats.

Quote: Beater

Moscow alone may remain from Russia ..)))) She feeds everyone and distributes subsidies

no, Moscow does not feed anyone, but it is the capital, the center, the regions feed

[Astoria]

Who is Medvedev to roll a barrel on Lukashenko ..? He survived in the 90s, when everyone and everyone was torn to pieces, enterprises went bankrupt and just handed over scrap shops and so on ..?

- For the most part, almost everything that Luka saved from greed, either turned into scrap metal, or it produces this metal.

Lukashenko is the only one who has managed to save at least something and the people are still living stably (without gas and oil reserves).

- Of course, get 5 yards of greens a year from the Russian Federation, and this, by the way, is + - 25-30% of the budget, and build a semblance of a social state at the expense of the Russians

the oligarchy is eager for Belarus, because there are so many major enterprises lagging behind the USSR that still exist and work for the good of the people .. And they do not work badly!

Oh well - and what is there other than Belkali unprofitable?

oligarchy is eager for Belarus

- sleep peacefully - your local metal is subsidized at your expense and no one else dug.

Tractors "Belarus" throughout Russia, albeit without bells and whistles, but right on the road can be repaired and cheap.

- it's all in the past, but what is now, on German diesels and German hydraulics

And yet, most importantly, Belarus in the western direction lagged behind alone, and in which case it will fight to the last partisan for all of us .. Have already forgotten the history of many.?

- All young guerrillas are already laborers, either in the Russian Federation, or in Poland and the Baltic states.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Astoria

For the most part, almost everything that Luka has kept from greed has either turned into scrap metal, or it produces this metal.

Recently I saw a brand new "Belarus", but our tractors are not visible.

[Beater]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: Astoria

For the most part, almost everything that Luka has kept from greed has either turned into scrap metal, or it produces this metal.

Recently I saw a brand new "Belarus", but our tractors are not visible.

It has always been like this in the USSR tractors "Belarus" station wagons, time-tested .. .. Also a lot of newcomers I look clearing digging unloading .. Real hard workers tested! There are imported ones, but they are cherished (spare parts are expensive, etc.))))
And "Belaz" in the quarries, too, plow without stopping .. Repairs on the spot, etc. !
These are things going on in the Russian-Belorussian open spaces ..

[Amin_vivec]

caterpillars also plow, kamatsu, Mitsubishi, on the roads of Mana appear Freetliners, Volvo, the Chinese are all kinds of unpronounceable, MAZov has long been invisible ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: Beater

Lukashenko is the only one who managed to save at least something and the people are still stable

Persistent poverty, the dream of many to "roll" to Poland, in Vitebsk, by Russian standards there is not a single normal cafe. Well, maybe people like it?

[Beater]

Quote: Tank Hard

by Russian standards, there is not a single normal cafe. Well, maybe people like this?

And in Russia, cafes are everywhere everywhere and crowds go there, etc. Are You from Moscow ? then it is clear

Quote: Tank Hard

Stable poverty, the dream of many to "slide" to Poland,

And we only have fishing in Kazakhstan and EVERYTHING! How far are you from the common people of Russia (screamers screaming enough to feed Belarus)
There will be confusion, do not be offended by the pitchfork ..

[Tank hard]

Quote: Beater

Are You from Moscow ?

A city in Siberia, a province ...

Quote: Beater

There will be confusion, do not be offended by the pitchfork ..

They saw the fly ..

[Consultant]

Quote: Tank Hard

They saw the fly ..

Tank, this is Meehan, camping trip

[Tank hard]

Quote: Consultant

Tank, this is Meehan, camping trip

Greetings! Scary individuals surround us!

[Consultant]

Quote: Tank Hard

Scary individuals ...

Indie Species ...

Baius-Baius-Baius !!!

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Beater

And yet, most importantly, Belarus in the western direction lagged behind alone, and in which case it will fight to the last partisan for all of us .. Have already forgotten the history of many.?

no no! no need to line up the text! then we were one country and they fought not "for you and me" but "we fought all together"
we know the history well, but we don't need to distort it, otherwise you can get the answer to “they fought for us” with the answer “and then we freed them” - do not substitute

[ANCIENT]

In my opinion, Lukashenko should leave, and not run for president of Belarus anymore. He simply squandered a credit of trust from the people of Russia, especially since ukroina became closer and sweeter to the authorities of Belarus, and Russia remained just a cash cow.

[igorbrsv]

He is fighting for his country. And in my opinion he does not care who to be friends with. The United States would have long thrown him a handout. I would like to take it. He is a man of principle. And a little touchy, but easygoing. I respect him for that.

[Amin_vivec]

he is like a woman with reduced social responsibility - he gave it to another, he gave it to another - his wallet whistled - proud independent))))

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: igorbrsv

He is fighting for his country.

long gone

Quote: igorbrsv

And I think he doesn’t give a damn about who to be friends with

then with some then with others

Quote: igorbrsv

The United States would have long thrown him a handout

it’s just that the USA will not leave anything to anyone

Quote: igorbrsv

I would like to take

yes they don’t give ... although not everything: we give (yes he doesn’t value, considers that it is necessary)

Quote: igorbrsv

He is a man of principle

unprincipled: he is only ready to be friends for the benefit, the "merchant brotherhood", which he measures in discounts and investments, in difficult moments on the political front gives up the "back" (did not recognize the Crimea, South Ossetia) all this is very difficult to fit into the concept of "adherence to principles"

Quote: igorbrsv

And a little touchy

that does not paint him as a politician

Quote: igorbrsv

but hardworking

praise be to Allah! at least something good was found in him

Quote: igorbrsv

I respect him for that.

this is a purely personal matter

[GibSoN]

Lukashenko should leave, and not run for president anymore Belarus. He just squandered a credit of trust from the people of Russia

This is just a masterpiece! It does not even depend on the people of Russia who will be "the head of the village, in the Vetroduevsky district, the muddy region of the Moscow region ..." And someone here has been carried to the presidential level of a foreign country))

[SASHA OLD]

Well, Trump was elevated to the throne!)

[revnagan]

Can you hear yourself? Lukashenko MUST resign from the presidency of Belarus because he simply squandered the credit of trust of citizens of RUSSIA. So you agree that Lukashenko owes you personally, and therefore must leave .

[Beater]

Quote: ANCIENT

In my opinion, Lukashenko should leave, and not run for president of Belarus anymore. He simply squandered a credit of trust from the people of Russia, especially since ukroina became closer and sweeter to the authorities of Belarus, and Russia remained just a cash cow.

I didn’t expect this from you Sergey .. You went for our liberal and western!
Do you have any idea what kind of coven in Belarus will begin? This is not the Outskirts with Bandera ..
There are partisan people and if they start to squeeze out the largest state-owned enterprises and bankrupt both in Russia and Ukraine .. The partisan war will begin a bloody ..
Maybe baiting is enough already, all of you with Ukraine Waltzman and K are not enough for you?

[Hypersound]

That said softly. I would in his place have long ordered the intelligence services to eliminate the mustachioed

[VeteranVSSSR]

Yesterday, for one incorrectly written letter in the nickname of hypersound, a second warning came to me.
Here I read a call for the physical elimination of my President and all in a bundle.
AU !!! Site administrators, AU !!!
A comment read interesting-FOURTH, a continuation of the Marlieson ballet ...
To be continued ???
AU !!! Admins is not inciting ethnic hatred ???

[Tank hard]

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

Yesterday, for one incorrectly spelled letter in the nickname of hypersound, a second warning flew to me

And do not be rude.

Quote: VeteranVSSSR

AU !!! Site administrators, AU !!!

The drums are rattling!

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Hypersound

That said softly. I would in his place have long ordered the intelligence services to eliminate the mustachioed

And leave the Jewish alcoholic? He is certainly much more yelling about "Russian aggression".

[Alexander Galaktionov]

The whole essence of Medvedev

[vitvit123]

Here, recently, fighters for the independence of Belarus proved that they give all loans, and even with interest, and they are economically independent and do not sit on the neck of Russia. But still I can’t believe it, and Medvedev is probably not in the know.

[Brturin]

They give it, they give it, but they are gaining new ones. The external debt of Belarus as of December 1, 2018 - 16,8 billion dollars, increased from the beginning of the year by 70,3 million. At the same time, the government of Belarus in January-November 2018 attracted external government loans in the amount of 2, 112 billion dollars. Of these, $ 797,5 million was received from the government and banks of the Russian Federation, $ 600 million - as a result of the placement of Eurobonds, $ 361,3 million from Chinese banks ... It turns out almost 2 billion were given and the same amount was taken.
The international reserve assets of Belarus as of December 1 - $ 7,439 billion (as of January 1, 2018 - $ 7,315 billion) - an increase in gold reserves of 1,7%.

Medvedev recalled that credit support for Belarus already exceeds $ 6,5 billion

[Astoria]

The national debt of Belarus is growing at a rate of 5 million dollars a day
https://grodno24.com/belarus/gosdolg-belarusi-rastet-so-skorostyu-5-millionov-dollarov-v-sutki.html

[Brturin]

"Three from Prostokvashino" - I ought to buy a cow. // We should. Where can I get the money? // Maybe take it? At the neighbors. // And what will we give? You have to give. // We will give milk. // If you give milk, why then a cow? The question is that it is possible to collect debts, and to give back more than 90% of Belarus's foreign debt in foreign currency. We look at the gold reserves - National Bank. reports "International reserve assets of the Republic of Belarus as of January 1, 2019, according to preliminary data, amounted to 7 million US dollars (in equivalent). In December 157,6, gold and foreign exchange reserves decreased by 2018 million." credit support to Belarus already exceeds $ 282,3 billion (excluding nuclear power plants). Let's compare 6,5 and 7,15 ... Over the year, the gold and foreign exchange reserves fell, and here is an efficient economy ... and here Russia with its oil maneuver ...

[vasek5533]

He, like you do not know))

[Rodo]

And you are redder and more Stalinist)))

[sleeve]

What are allies ???

[Kremlins gremlin]

Belarus can and will find new friends in the West! Only then will the last dictator of Europe end as Saddam.

And for those who believe that Belarus has an industrial paradise and everything is fine, I advise you to go there and talk to people in person.

[Rodo]

That's good that like Saddam. The air will be cleaner in Belarus.

[revnagan]

Even if the "last dictator of Europe" ends up like Saddam as a result of "friendship" with the West, this will not make it easier for Russia. The dense "security belt" from the Baltic to the Black Sea isolates Russia from Europe. Plus, you know whose bases you know who are on the territory of Belarus. .So everyone sees the situation in his own way. Russia is trying to naparit Belarusians, they say, dependents, you live at our expense, eat our pensioners. Belarus pretends not to hear this at all and voices the price of loyalty in the amount of domestic rates for energy carriers.

[Astoria]

Nobody soars anyone. The fact that Belarus is not an ally is not even a question. In the best case, the buffer zone, the presence of the population is not important. This zone has price - and nothing more.

[Amin_vivec]

cynical - but true.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Astoria

Nobody soars anyone. The fact that Belarus is not an ally is not even a question. In the best case, the buffer zone, the presence of the population is not important. This zone has a price - and nothing more.

Well, something like that it comes out .., unfortunately

[Alexga]

I think everything is simpler here. Pay attention, there is no place for Putin. But Lukoshenko meets with Medvedchuk. You might think that they have a topic of conversation. More like a Putin negotiator. Question with the embassies. There are no deep ties with the states, not even consular work is being done. And it didn’t bother anyone, the Belarusians went to Kiev and Moscow, there they solved all the issues with visas. Most likely, we can expect that between Russia and the United States a dip can occur. problems, and here again, there is consular protection of interests on the part of the Republic of Belarus in relation to Russia. Common international practice. Moreover, in the year 20 there will be elections of the President of the Republic of Belarus, the Swedes were pressed in the year 15, and the process will not be left without control. Moreover, in May 06 and 10, they did not succeed. Lukoshenko in matters of intrigue master. For all the reign there was not a single loss. And now, most likely it will be like this: Medvedev with all his eagles will rush to peck at Luke, it seems that there are some kind of economic victories, but political problems arise. And they are more dangerous. Enemies to their people in the person of robbers of the Russian budget from the Republic of Belarus showed the people to calm down a bit. And then the Guarantor of freedom appears in the person of the President of the Russian Federation. He sees a mess, menacingly asks his Medvedev-Who is to blame. And either leave himself or appoint a guilty party. Last time, Kudrin was appointed, and now, I think, will be Siluanov. But this is just my opinion.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: revnagan

Russia is trying to get Belarusians to work, they say, dependents, you live at our expense, you’re eating around our pensioners. Belarus pretends not to hear it at all and voices the price of loyalty in the amount of domestic Russian energy prices.

everything is exactly the opposite: we give, we give, we are silent ... when they started talking about refunds and reducing nishtyaks, it was immediately heard "and we will go to the West!"
alliance for the loot ... this is not an alliance, it is, Sorry, ..

[Sayan]

Quote: KremlinsGremlin

Belarus can and will find new friends in the West!

owners and not friends - as in Kiev

Quote: KremlinsGremlin

for those who believe that Belarus is an industrial paradise and all is well, I advise you to go there and talk personally with people.

but I agree with that - there are friends there

[igorbrsv]

And why can’t Belarus be driven at domestic prices? What is in the way? Someone will receive less profit? They will tell Rosneft and Gazprom and drive. What is the problem? Clean for their needs. Not for export. In exchange for weapons, let them buy grain from us for the difference.

[shans2]

in Russia, taxes are then paid to the Russian budget by those who receive these energy sources - factories, etc., and Belarus and its enterprises do not pay taxes to the Russian budget, that is, it will not be Russian prices, but lower than Russian prices, much like the Ukrainians received gas at 50 and resold it, but it was almost three times cheaper for them than for Russian consumers ... They have already told everyone who is near-minded - either you are part of the region as part of Russia, or you will live in your second Ukraine ...

[igorbrsv]

Like, how did I fry an omelet at home, gobble it up, produce nothing good? About enter. Lukashenko has not said yet, but has not denied.

[vasek5533]

These are incomparable things: the independence of the state and the price of any product. However, they persistently repeat about being part of the composition.

[Amin_vivec]

why area? district

[Amin_vivec]

why do we need grain, weapons? we have enough of our own)))) what can you offer us?))) In general, why do we have to sell something at Russian prices?)))) We only have losses from you. Drive at domestic prices-voluntarily refuse to replenish pension funds and the budget, you can pay taxes to the Russian treasury ????

[Incvizitor]

He recently called the genocide of Russians in the DPR and LPR a "misunderstanding" is it interesting for him Khatyn is also a "misunderstanding" or is it a tragedy after all?

“This is a misunderstanding, you can’t name it otherwise, we must finish ... The fraternal republics, peoples ... We make our enemies and rivals a gift with their own hands,” RIA Novosti quotes Lukashenko.

Or for him the genocide of Belarusians by Bendery fascists, a tragedy and the genocide of Russian Bandera fascists, a misunderstanding? Ally

[Rodo]

Yes, there are Russian Russians in Donbas so over these four years otgenocidili while there was an orgy and shared power that cannot be compared with the Ukrainians. What are these "Cossacks and other dregs that have crawled into the Donbas?"

[igorbrsv]

Quote: tatra

And here they minus those who are FOR FRIENDSHIP between Russia and Belarus, either paid Kremlin bots, or enemies of Russia who want Russia to have no allies.

I agree with everything. Except kremlebotov. This is again like someone for Putin. Why, since I support Putin, I must be against Belarus, Kazakhstan, against socialism and for self-flagellation. Biased attitude.

[Hypatius]

Please announce the whole list! Credit support for the Republic of Belarus is wonderful, but how much does the non-repayable aid of Abkhazia and South Ossetia amount to? And the rest of the Mongolia? But parasites exclusively Belarusians

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Hypatius

But parasites exclusively Belarusians

no one says that "freeloaders are exclusively Belarusians" ...
but BELARUSIANS ALSO, do not consider yourself exceptional

[Hypatius]

no one says that "freeloaders are exclusively Belarusians" ...

Well no! Namely, ONLY about Belarusians and they say in all the media. And do not confuse loans and gifts that make up 50-75% of the unrecognized budget.

[Rodo]

It's time to stop. Let the country live within its means. Luke will not be. Will become a normal country.

[Sergei 777]

In relations between Russia and the Belarusian 6 regions, the "superstructure" in the form of the Republic of Belarus constantly interferes. This seems silly to me. And apparently the Kremlin too. So dad starts talking about "trying hard" and "joining different states." Only it is necessary to clarify that the cardboard fool in the form of Lukashenka’s independence will be “try it”.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Sergey 777

In relations between Russia and the Belarusian 6 regions, the "superstructure" in the form of the Republic of Belarus constantly interferes.

the fact is that the "Republic of Belarus" was a superstructure relative to the basis of the "USSR", and from 91 the superstructure itself became the basis, because it ceased to be a superstructure relative to the USSR, the basis disintegrated and its superstructures themselves became bases (I tried "dialectics" )))

[The Siberian barber]

[/ quote] In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, approx. “VO”) by taking money out of our economy. This should be appreciated when talking about allied relations. [Quote]

Pearl! Another ..
They themselves are pushing money, really, somewhere: in currency games, then in treasury, then in muddy projects in banana countries.
LADIES "formidable" when GDP, behind the back))
Funny, no more

[Amin_vivec]

In response, Old Man needed not DAM, but a senior assistant, a junior spokesperson. Great honor hurts for Old Man that his whole DAM rebukes him.

[The Siberian barber]

Do not say nonsense, becoming like the same ladies

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

LADIES "formidable" when GDP, behind the back))
Funny, no more

I agree, but this does not negate the fact that Lukashenko confuses the shores and is engaged in frank political blackmail

[The Siberian barber]

Probably! But, there are suspicions that information on this topic is being given to us, either a little distorted, or not complete, or taken out of context.
Someone pushes their foreheads hard, us

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Someone pushes their foreheads hard, us

100% agree with your thought

[vitvit123]

Quote: The Siberian Barber

Probably! But, there are suspicions that information on this topic is being given to us, either a little distorted, or not complete, or taken out of context.
Someone pushes their foreheads hard, us

One of the beneficiaries is Luke himself.

[Bare]

Watch the performance of A. Lukashenko at the last meeting of the EEC, something will become clear, you just need to look objectively.
Pouring dirt from all the cracks.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Bere

Watch the performance of A. Lukashenko

It is customary to use links here if you did not know. This is a big plus of this resource.
It is appropriate to quote and give a link.

[Bare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQsUbCtvcPM

on equal rights in the EEC.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Quote: Bere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQsUbCtvcPM
on equal rights in the EEC.

Link to TV is not the best link. I already somehow lost the habit of wasting time on TV. But I had to spend, if so. The dialogue between Lukashenko and Putin looked.
So what? Where

dirt from all cracks

?
They both did not even mention the tax maneuver. Bad link.

[Dr. Sorge]

It pours :) thank you for the reasonable words and support of our fraternal relations. Politicians have spring already ... Ameria deneh see swelling in trolling and away we go. Opps are afraid of losing the essence of their work in Belarus. Here and rage. They are trying to draw us in.

[Vladimir Postnikov]

Well, it was difficult to come up with the worst scenario for the destruction of good neighborly relations.
Touches only one fact: the tough answer was voiced by D. Medvedev, not V. Putin. The next move (reasonable) is not difficult to predict. The next will be V. Putin, and "peace will reign", albeit temporary, until the next change in the rules of the game by Russia.
But, the next move may be unreasonable.
And the results of the statement "whipping boy" will also not go unnoticed.
Who remains to rely on? The army and navy? But they are constantly weakening. The main competitors, along with GDP, are also growing defense spending (including R&D). And if Russia's GDP does not grow, then the spending on these "allies" will not grow. Redistribution of expenses is possible, but it is like on-lending at higher interest rates: today they are saved, but tomorrow - even more ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Vladimir Postnikov

and "peace will reign", albeit temporary, until the next change in the rules of the game by Russia.

until the next outbreak Lukashenko soon

[Old Horseradish]

Lukashenko is a real master and did not allow to plunder and plunder Belarus. As for Medvedev, there is nothing to write here: everything is clear. Sing on to the osan oligarchy! Is everything not enough for you?

[Dr. Sorge]

Comrade Fuck, say it right. But suddenly, Medvedev became so loved, what happened? :) It is good that the main opponents of Belarus on this site and from Russia, in general :) We are here cursing with the State Department trolls mainly :)

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Dr. Sorge

But suddenly, Medvedev became so loved, what happened?

he didn’t become beloved to us, he just did the right thing for once: in this case he yanked the presumptuous Lukashenko, but (BUT!) this does not mean that treating Belarusians as a people, ordinary people, it’s worse, all claims to management

[Dr. Sorge]

In how interesting. Did Medvedev join the BPF? Pours oil on the mill of discord of the oppov :)

[Adimius38]

You VAT vouched for a 20% pension raised, gasoline, utilities raised and raised, I do not understand whether you at all in the end numb. Kissel instead of brains. All Lukashenko is not like that. Let’s stop discussing this with Lukashenko, better say what Dimon did for the simple working people of the country.

[loki565]

[quote = Old Man is certainly harsh, but he was the last buffer we had in the west, there the enemy will not be missed unambiguously ..
This is not Ukraine ... [/ quote]
Nobody argues with this, only we are protecting Belarus too. Not so long ago he was called "the last dictator of Europe" and without Russia the fate of Milosevic could well await.

[lopvlad]

Minsk statements about “possible loss of an ally by Russia”

it was logical that such statements would be made openly by the authorities of Belarus. The whole history of relations between "independent" Belarus and Russia was built on unilateral concessions and constant financial assistance (in fact, subsidizing the Belarusian economic miracle) from the Russian side.
The Belarusian authorities didn’t take any practical steps towards Russia, except perhaps in words they said. But after the return of Crimea to Russia, the Belarusian authorities did so that they began to make anti-Russian statements in words and in practice began to fight the Russian world.
Why was Lukashenko and his entourage so afraid in 2014 if he constantly declared that he would strive for a closer relationship with Russia?
The fact is that in Belarus, close cooperation is understood as the fact that Russia sells them energy resources at domestic Russian prices, opens up its market for all the goods that goes through the territory of Belarus under the guise of the Belarusian and the most fun (when the Belarusian officials voiced it, I almost fell off my chair ) that in Russia, the government should stop giving preferences in the Russian market to those Russian goods that Belarus supplies to us. Also, Russia, in their opinion, should give money just like that and not be indignant when they see Belarus drifting towards the West, struggling with Russian world, etc.
Any Belarusian, like any Ukrainian government, from the moment of receiving "independence" only in a nightmare sees a real unification (union) of their countries with Russia and NEVER they will not take real practical steps in this direction.
What, in turn, do they want from Belarus in Russia?
Nothing special except practical steps on points
Agreement between the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus dated 08.12.1999 "On the creation of the Union State" .

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: lopvlad

in Russia, the government should stop giving preferences in the Russian market to those Russian goods whose analogues Belarus supplies us

also then stunned by this statement!

[Maalkavianin]

Medvedev is stuffing his own price. Clearly preparing for the next presidential election.

[vovashturman]

The most important thing in a war is to be ready to head for war, if you and your environment are ready, you are already invincible!
We are ready, and you ??

[Dubox]

Lukashenka behaves like a "woman of easy virtue". The UN abstains on our resolutions, does not recognize Crimea and Abkhazia with Ossetia, but how can you give discounts ON BROTHERLY or else I’ll leave.

[Well done]

All this sucks, colleagues! Someone in Belarus is buzzing. Who! For whose money? The answers are obvious ... I do not argue - Batko became insolent, but it seems to me that this is not the only reason. The Anglo-Saxons sleep and see the "Maidan" in Minsk with subsequent events. There is no need to go far for an example. And they "will not stand up" for money and terms. Consensus is needed (ugh, damn it remembered "marked"))), high Lavrov is straining. In general, we shouldn't be bullshitting with them.

[Amin_vivec]

Saxons see the Maidan, and in the Old Man - the second pig)))

[lopvlad]

Quote: Welldone

It’s shitty, colleagues! Someone in Belarus is buzzing. Who! Whose money is it for?

naivety is a virtue in childhood, adolescence, and in adulthood and old age it is a disadvantage. Here, like Medvedev, we judge the event and give an answer to the statements of Belarusian officials, namely President Lukashenko and officials of his government and not the babble of some Belarusian opposition working for the money of the State Department.
So, in such a situation, it is useless to strain Lavrov if Lukashenka has a politician like in the Soviet aphorism "I am a breadwinner or who? And don't give me a chisel to drink."

[lot]

Who does not feed his allies, he fights with strangers.
(figured it out myself)
Refute.
Not greasy Belarusians live. Lazy? No more Russians.
I think the Palace of the Republic in Minsk is no more expensive than Quater Sechin.

[Amin_vivec]

The USA does not feed its allies; crumbs from the table are sometimes thrown off. But at the same time they milk them hard)))
They work according to the principle: how to make the cow give more milk, and at the same time spend less feed: the answer is simple - feed less and milk more))))) and the fact that the cow dies ...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: lot

Who does not feed his allies, he fights with strangers.

if an ally cannot feed himself, then this is a parasite and not an ally

[lopvlad]

Quote: lot

Who does not feed his allies, he fights with strangers.

it’s easy. It’s enough to see the relations between the USA and the EU. They not only do not feed Europeans, but also constantly try to tear out a piece of their bread from their hands. This is the law on transnational trade, an attempt to force energy to buy energy at least twice as expensive from the USA, trade sanctions with disagreeable US countries (both total and by sector), forced to pay 2% of GDP for NATO maintenance (where the United States leads everything and soldiers from NATO countries die for American interests in different countries of the world Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.) .
The USA keeps its allies on a short leash and punishes mercilessly for any disobedience.
I cannot imagine the statement of one of the NATO countries, the president would openly say that "he will fight the American world" while sitting on subsidies and loans from the US State Department.

[lot]

I do not think that Germany is not self-sufficient. Here France is quite possible under some sort of blackmail, given their leaders: either Camingout, or some crap through one; not casual Lepin there is popular. We are waiting for the Germans to sober up from Merkel, migrants and their vanquished complex. Then Belarus will be remembered. England does not count - there the whole Russian elite is in quotation marks - palaces, loot, children.

[the same doctor]

Whatever he does ... Medvedev, he does everything wrong. Not because he’s stupid, but because he has a distorted picture of the world in his head and uses brokerage recipes instead of economic knowledge. And those outside the narrow territory of exchanges will fail, but at the interstate level they are not applicable at all. Medvedev is trying to dust Lukashenko with Russian laws, but not politics obeys the laws, but laws serve politics.
.
Legal tricks and attempts to deceive partners during the tax maneuver are solved at once. Everything became clear to me back in 2012. However, if we cannot object to the rise in the price of gasoline, then the president of a neighboring country does not care about our thieves' laws. He demands "his". And the blame for this is the one who for years allowed Lukashenka to steal, who destroyed the Russian economy, who deprived Belarus of the opportunity to honestly earn money on cooperation with the Russian Federation. And now honestly presenting: you steal and share with me!
.
Way out of the crisis. An honest industrial and financial policy in Russia and an honest division of labor with Belarus. Lukashenko will not feel the need for theft of Russian oil only if the Kremlin is the first to stop stealing.

[Astoria]

honest division of labor with Belarus

Well, let them grow a bulb, because everything else that they do with their hands can be sold at best only in the Russian Federation and then only out of compassion

[Alexander not great]

for sure, and rather they will invite a couple of NATO bases and missile defense systems)))) and you will be happy)))

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: also a doctor

And the one who let Lukashenko steal for years is to blame

ha ha ha! the one who steals is to blame
it’s possible to agree so far that Hitler is not to blame for attacking us: after all, it’s us who come out and let him attack us — are we to blame ..?
be careful with expressions!
it’s as if we give the Kuril Islands - everyone will come running: Finns beyond Karelia, Turks beyond Crimea ...
Well, you understand in general

[seregatara1969]

Old Man turns like a louse on a scallop - it’s not easy to fight off all at once

[Alexga]

It’s very interesting that the site hosting gives information about the IP of the site: 104.24.31.51 Country: USA, Phoenix. Well then it’s clear why there are such topics, such comments and strict control of critical remarks towards this country.

[faterdom]

Sooner or later, relations with everyone must be transferred from so-called “brotherly” (for some reason one-sidedly brotherly) to normal. And so they delayed this, then Georgia received the cheapest gas under Saakashvili for some reason, then we give the multi-vector Yanukovych three lard just like that...
An experiment with a suspiciously similar result repeated many times over. It’s time for the experimenter to draw scientific conclusions: there is no need to give anything to anyone! Only to beloved women and only from your salary.

[slavaseven]

Faberge grew it?

[Antares]

Confident with the old rake. The Russian media are poisoning the Republic of Belarus like they did Ukraine in their time.
And we feed, and the ungrateful. And it will feel bad for you if anything...
Medvedev on horseback. 6 billion...(no, Rosneft can pump Venezuela into 6 billion, brothers are Venezuelans after all)
Loyalty doesn't come free.
How much money is poured into political and economic loyalty - but if it is presented as feeding an ungrateful neighbor. Here any person begins to hate the “freeloader” who steals “money” from him. The old scheme of breaking relations and forming a ring around the Russian Federation from a cordon sanitaire.
Of course, I understand that the food supply has narrowed. They began to count every dollar (not ruble). The fat years are over. They save on their own. And God himself ordered to cut back on strangers.
The Russian Federation will even lose its regional status. There will be no impact on anyone. According to the Kremlin’s logic, it’s expensive and doesn’t solve anything. It’s easier for Western partners to ship pipes directly. How to build influence even in your home. with neighbors. EXPENSIVE! I'm afraid to assume that next time it will be expensive to support VORONEZH...

[Amin_vivec]

Can you remember, my dear, why the United States supported the creation of the CIS?))))
You need to throw off these chains. Do you remember if the USA has friends? sincere such, brothers who love the last shirt? Who in the world loves the USA? - They don’t need anyone’s love and respect. Only force, yoke, sanctions and terror.

[Alexander not great]

I completely agree, the Caucasus is also expensive to maintain, but the local downvoters are silent)

[Olezhek]

The North Caucasus is part of Russia (as opposed to Belarus) something like this
I'm already tired of explaining.
It’s one thing to maintain your own territory and quite another to maintain someone else’s.
Honduras is also “expensive to maintain”
That's why no one supports it.

[Olezhek]

Confident with the old rake. The Russian media are poisoning the Republic of Belarus like they did Ukraine in their time.
And we feed, and the ungrateful. And it will feel bad for you if anything...

And they really feel bad now, really feel bad.
It’s just that Belarusian propaganda is silent about this.
Why?
But it's not profitable.
It is unprofitable to admit that Ukraine’s break with Russia led it to complete disaster.

Of course, feeding Ukraine is “very profitable” (just like Belarus - according to Belpropaganda)
However, for some reason no one did this.
Neither Europe nor America.

(no, Rosneft can pump 6 billion into Venezuela, brothers are Venezuelans after all)

I'll give you some good advice (free) - stop looking into Russia's pocket
And you will be respected much more.
We will somehow spend our money ourselves, without the “valuable” advice of foreigners.

[Olezhek]

1 Confident with the old rake.

Well, something like that - they fed the Ukrainian nationalists, they fed the Baltic ones.
And they fed it on their own.

The first rule of the President of Russia: do not feed the Nazis!

Loyalty doesn't come free.

And it depends on what parrots you measure it in: the USA does not pay Japan for loyalty
On the contrary: Japan is completely loyal to the United States and also pays for American military bases.
They pay for being occupied (protected) somehow.

Protection is never free

The fat years are over. They save on their own. And God himself ordered to cut back on strangers.

And this is very correct!
Why feed someone you don’t know?

The Russian Federation will even lose its regional status. There will be no impact on anyone.

Well, yes, and now we have the most powerful influence.
The Republic of Belarus recognized both Crimea and Abkhazia... and sent troops to Syria... Russia's influence is in fact limitless.

According to the Kremlin’s logic, it’s expensive, and it doesn’t solve anything.

It's expensive to feed parasites
Russia does not have any serious influence on the Republic of Belarus.
NETU
And the Kremlin finally recognized this.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Antares

Loyalty doesn't come free.

How much and what does Belarus give us so that we are loyal to it?
You don’t think that we need Belarus more than it needs us?

[purple]

Well, what if you count and think? or just speculation? Or are you used to living at the expense of others, but now things start to break down? Understand that no one will feed you forever for beautiful eyes.
And the fact that Russia poured a lot of money into Belarus without actually receiving anything for it... this is a fact.
Now they also scold us... We are bad, we don’t give free money anymore.

[Brigadier]

Medvedev responded harshly to the authorities of Belarus... and... that's all?
ALL. We are not the kind of Americans who need to back up our words with deeds.

[Amin_vivec]

Did the Belarusians of Russia build the oil industry? Have you forgotten what Russia built for you? What did the USSR give you? which you betrayed and abandoned at a difficult moment. Have you forgotten what was left of the Germans in Belarus after the war and who restored it all?

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Did the Belarusians of Russia build the oil industry? Have you forgotten what Russia built for you? What did the USSR give you? which you betrayed and abandoned at a difficult moment. Have you forgotten what was left of the Germans in Belarus after the war and who restored it all?

Do not worry.
Let’s not forget how the party nomenklatura fled from Minsk and other cities of the BSSR on June 23, 1941.
Typically, they threw away a bunch of archives, including lists of those who, according to pre-war plans, would have to organize the underground and armed resistance in the event of an enemy invasion.
But they didn’t forget to take out the Cross of Euphrasinya of Polotsk, and then “lose” it in the vast expanses.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Did the Belarusians of Russia build the oil industry?

they did not build an oil industry: during the oil development of Siberia (and I live here, Surgut, I work in the oil industry - I know in general) people of MANY nationalities worked, yes, including Belarusians, but there is a BUT: we were then one country and It’s dangerous to say that “we Belarusians have mastered Siberia for you”, because in response you can hear that “we liberated you from the Nazis and rebuilt the cities”
this is where the enmity begins: one can only remember “Stop feeding Moscow” - that was the “start”: no one at that moment thought that Moscow is also part of our common big country...
well, then everyone knows what happened

[Kremlins gremlin]

You forget that Belarus was also raised by the entire union after the war. And among other things, it was not Russia that demanded independence from the USSR, but paid off all the debts of the USSR.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: KremlinsGremlin

You forget that Belarus was also raised by the entire union after the war. And among other things, it was not Russia that demanded independence from the USSR, but paid off all the debts of the USSR.

It’s become fashionable lately in Russia not to know your history.
Obviously, this could not have happened without the Unified State Exam.
Declaration of State Sovereignty of the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic from 12th of June 1990
http://constitution.garant.ru/act/base/10200087/

[Kremlins gremlin]

Please read this document carefully first. And also remember the events that preceded this. And then talk about the Unified State Exam.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: KremlinsGremlin

Please read this document carefully first. And also remember the events that preceded this. And then talk about the Unified State Exam.

That is why:
Russia Day (until 2002 - the Day of Adoption of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the RSFSR) - June 12 - a state holiday of the Russian Federation. Celebrated annually since 1992[1] (a non-working day since 1991[2]) on the day of adoption of the Declaration of State Sovereignty of the RSFSR (adopted on June 12, 1990).
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/День_России

[XXXIII]

Quote: Alexander not great

the heat has started))) now, after the Ukrainians, the Belarusians are also bad)) minus patriots are throwing sleepers at the bulbashes)) They lost Ukraine, Belarus is in the process, who is next, Chechnya, Tatarstan?

Oh, yes, the USSR generally lost everything, but Russia is still alive, whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword, that’s how Russia lives.....Bandera was beaten, hanged and so it will be, it’s blood, and friends are scoundrels Russia has never complained.....

[Alexander not great]

America has just delivered aid to Tsarist Russia and the USSR and humanitarian aid to the Russian Federation three times already))

[SASHA OLD]

Everything was given to America in full, to the last penny

[Amin_vivec]

Gentlemen Belarusians - sit on our necks, eat from our table, and don’t forget to spit on us. Why are you so beautiful to us? Are you taking money? - be silent and don’t show off, although no matter what you say, I would like support... but apparently we won’t get it. Are you going to the west? money on a barrel - and arivederchi!)))) for crests - in line))))))

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Gentlemen Belarusians - sit on our necks, eat from our table, and don’t forget to spit on us. Why are you so beautiful to us? Are you taking money? - be silent and don’t show off, although no matter what you say, I would like support... but apparently we won’t get it. Are you going to the west? money on a barrel - and arivederchi!)))) for crests - in line))))))

Dear Russians. I swear I didn't borrow money from you. I don't even know what they look like.
But in any case, for some reason I owe you.

[Amin_vivec]

Personally, you, personally, don’t owe me anything, don’t worry, and please don’t exaggerate))))

[pro100y.belarus]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

Personally, you, personally, don’t owe me anything, don’t worry, and please don’t exaggerate))))

And I’m not worried. LET'S SURVIVE! With or without you.
Tea, not Honduras.
Wow, it even turned out to be a poem.

[Amin_vivec]

SURVIVE))) I have no doubt. With us))) Together))) And with Ukraine too))) And you won’t go anywhere. Geography is destiny)))

[Tarasios]

Wow! Belarus owes at least financially, and quite a lot. That’s why Lukashenko turns his nose up. Just like in the joke, like:
- I don’t like this Vasya!
- I do not love him too! By the way, how much do you owe him?

[Victor N]

Well done Medvedev! Russia's interests need to be thawed out more firmly!

[tolmachiev51]

"Friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart." Old Man needs to remember that dill “started” with the same thing, i.e. “we want freebies.”

[tolmachiev51]

Quote: Antares

Confident with the old rake. The Russian media are poisoning the Republic of Belarus like they did Ukraine in their time.
And we feed, and the ungrateful. And it will feel bad for you if anything...
Medvedev on horseback. 6 billion...(no, Rosneft can pump Venezuela into 6 billion, brothers are Venezuelans after all)
Loyalty doesn't come free.
How much money is poured into political and economic loyalty - but if it is presented as feeding an ungrateful neighbor. Here any person begins to hate the “freeloader” who steals “money” from him. The old scheme of breaking relations and forming a ring around the Russian Federation from a cordon sanitaire.
Of course, I understand that the food supply has narrowed. They began to count every dollar (not ruble). The fat years are over. They save on their own. And God himself ordered to cut back on strangers.
The Russian Federation will even lose its regional status. There will be no impact on anyone. According to the Kremlin’s logic, it’s expensive and doesn’t solve anything. It’s easier for Western partners to ship pipes directly. How to build influence even in your home. with neighbors. EXPENSIVE! I'm afraid to assume that next time it will be expensive to support VORONEZH...

The problem is that “brothers and friends” began to sell their loyalty for money!!! What did Russia lose from the severance of relations with dill!!!??? -Nothing .

[Incognito_2]

As soon as Russia stopped giving its “boobs” to the Bulbash, Bulbash’s leader Mudashenko immediately began to issue his threats to Russia. Why threaten? In my opinion, with the naked eye, it is clear that he is prostituting, sitting on two chairs. He wants to defect to us - for GOD's sake! Let's see what happens to Belarus, in 5-10 years. And for Russia, it's time to stop giving its "boobs" to the post-Soviet republics. It’s time to stop lending to these republics, they still don’t return these loans to us. The government and the president need to think and care more about their people, and not about fake allies who at any moment can slip Russia a dirty trick or betrayal.

[Enemy]

and allies become enemies - this is an axiom.

[Olezhek]

The Minsk statements about “Russia’s possible loss of an ally” looked harsh, and the head of the Russian Cabinet allowed himself an equally harsh response.

The problem is precisely that Belarus is not an ally.
Alas - it is.
A country has formed with the psychology of a capricious kept woman...
It’s useless to explain anything, it’s useless to “answer harshly”
They won't understand.
They can beg, steal, deceive, betray, become hysterical and threaten to “go to the West”...
All we have seen in recent years are scandals and demands for money.
What kind of “alliance” is this?

[SASHA OLD]

absolutely "in the hole"!

[georggy]

In fact, we help (the Republic of Belarus, - note “IN”), taking money out of our economy. It should be appreciated, arguing about allied relations.

More precisely, you help solve your “selfish” interests both in Belarus and in other countries at the expense of our economy.

[Enemy]

Finally, Medvedev said something smart. It’s high time.
Remember, Belarusians are friends only for money. Lukashenko proved this. Moreover, instead of thanks for your help, there is only dirt. This is their national trait. They don’t like the conditions of Russia - the world is full of countries that sell oil and gas. Go to the London Stock Exchange, there is no tax maneuver there!

[Enemy]

Quote: KremlinsGremlin

You forget that Belarus was also raised by the entire union after the war. And among other things, it was not Russia that demanded independence from the USSR, but paid off all the debts of the USSR.

More precisely, they raised it mainly at the expense of the RSFSR. And in the end, Russia is bad. Moreover, they also shout about a huge contribution to the Victory. By the way, there was no conscription into the Red Army from the territory of the BSSR from July 1941 to August 1944.
Let me remind you of the number of military personnel killed during the Second World War:
Russians -5.5 million
Ukrainians - 1.5 million
Belarusians 255 thousand
Tatars 176 thousand...

[Enemy]

Quote: Brigadier

Medvedev responded harshly to the authorities of Belarus... and... that's all?
ALL. We are not the kind of Americans who need to back up our words with deeds.

Exactly. And independence is a disease that can only be cured with fire

[Olezhek]

"Friendship is friendship, but tobacco is apart." Old Man needs to remember that dill “started” with the same thing, i.e. “we want freebies.”

The development of the situation in Belarus and Ukraine is one to one:
State nationalism and Russophobia.
Propaganda "European"
Constant disputes over gas
Find 10 differences ...
And even Maidan-2 and the complete mess after it in Ukraine...
Has changed absolutely nothing in the political picture of Belarus.

[Boris55]

Why Medvedev responded harshly to Belarus - VO has an answer in pictures:

He's worried about his rating, so he found the last person to raise it.
No, he would say something similar about the USA. So no, no way, there’s a sir.

[Olezhek]

Why Medvedev responded harshly to Belarus - VO has an answer in pictures:

By the way, much earlier Mr. Medvedev had already shown the Belarusians the door...
(don't like gas prices? The exit is over there!)
And the Belarusian in the photo is kind of sad... why?

[Boris55]

Quote: Olezhek

By the way, much earlier Mr. Medvedev had already shown the Belarusians the door...

Don’t you think it’s strange that the West’s desires to separate Belarus from Russia are being implemented in this way by Medvedev?

[XXXIII]

Quote: Boris55

Don’t you think it’s strange that the West’s desires to separate Belarus from Russia are being implemented in this way by Medvedev?

Yes, the West doesn’t implement anything, it’s good to lie, the West, on the contrary, stands for the market and independence. Only for today it is not profitable for us, we are losing a lot, and what we are losing also does not want to stay, this is how it turns out, the Russian Federation with good intentions and friendship, and coming to us with money and ambitions, how can we be? So they send something that itself wants to be lost, did the Russian Federation hold Ukraine and Belarus as vassals, no, it’s just that the elite there is rotten, but they present themselves in a different light. So “Lukashenko” needs to look at himself and his affairs before looking for the culprits on the side. And everything that “Lukashenko” does, he does himself, do not drag drunken thoughts into the truth, he does all this, perhaps for money from the West or the United States, but the essence of the matter does not change. If he wants to be an enemy of the Russian Federation, then it will definitely not get better, but on the contrary, the same West and the United States will exchange Belarus for Russia for other geopolitical interests. We always agreed with Russia, war or interests, what Belarus chooses, we’ll see, Ukraine chose war and lost.....

[Boris55]

Quote: XXXIII

... it’s good to lie, the West, on the contrary, stands for the market ...

And sanctions are like the apotheosis of market relations

Quote: XXXIII

"Lukashenko" needs to look at himself

This is true. It’s time for him to make up his mind, but how if Russia itself doesn’t know what it wants? If we have dual power. Some are licking the West’s ass, others are actively opposing the West.

Putin goes to Asia and negotiates something, Medvedev flies after him - he ruins everything. Putin negotiates something with Lukashenko, then Medvedev again makes shit...

Medvedev’s activation both within the country and abroad is extremely alarming.

[XXXIII]

Quote: Boris55

And sanctions are like the apotheosis of market relations

Why were sanctions imposed against the Russian Federation, so that we did not help and did not develop ourselves, but Russia is stubborn, does its own thing..... Tell me what “Lukashenko” did, he asks Russia for everything he can sell (from home, and not to the house), he keeps the transit on himself and does not ask whether it is beneficial for us or not. And you don’t just need to drag in internal dealers, Russia itself must deal with them and it didn’t ask for help here. Belarus is an external player and sovereign, Russia recognizes this and does not dispute it, but there is no point in meddling and reproaching Russia’s internal problems. Russia does not advise Belarus on what to do, so what happened is what happened....

Quote: Boris55

This is true. It’s time for him to make up his mind, but how if Russia itself doesn’t know what it wants? If we have dual power. Some are licking the West’s ass, others are actively opposing the West.

Putin goes to Asia and negotiates something, Medvedev flies after him - he ruins everything. Putin negotiates something with Lukashenko, then Medvedev again makes shit...

Medvedev’s activation both within the country and abroad is extremely alarming.

Well, these are internal problems of the Russian Federation, what should Belarus do? Let him announce sanctions to “Medvedev”, I think you yourself can see that things have not worked out with “Medvedev” within the country, but his friend sees this too, only these are internal problems, not external ones. Or that when the Russian Federation makes a political reshuffle, it will be necessary to call everyone and ask everyone?! Nicht! We ourselves will chew on “Medvedev” and everyone who is involved in excessive foolishness.... .... And Lukashenko needs to be more careful, he is not a local governor, he has the country on his shoulders and this is not worth carrying towards the Russian Federation, geopolitics, which he began to play, does not have clear rules, it’s either Colt or money, in the Republic of Belarus there are none yet neither one nor the other. Ukraine also entered the arena with nothing and what it received was a blow that called into question the sovereignty of Ukraine....So sometimes you need to assess your capabilities and desires soberly...

[Boris55]

Quote: XXXIII

Tell me what “Lukashenko” did

I don't make excuses for him. He never misses an opportunity to stick a knife in our back.
Global, foreign and domestic policies - they are interconnected. One follows from the other and the other is a reflection of the first.

[Olezhek]

Medvedev’s activation both within the country and abroad is extremely alarming.

What do you care?
You look like a foreigner.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Boris55

Don’t you think it’s strange that the West’s desires to separate Belarus from Russia are being implemented in this way by Medvedev?

Don’t you think that the West’s wishes to separate Belarus from Russia are being implemented in this way by Lukashenko - after all, he is the one who has been trying to go there for many years...

[sergei petrov]

The showdown between the Russian media and Belarus is reminiscent of the showdown between a rich husband and his faithful wife. From the huge volume of relationships, individual, incomplete facts are pulled out and emotionally interpreted as to what is really happening. Russian oligarchs have reached the limit where it is no longer safe to rob their people. We need new space to generate additional income. The state is following the lead. There is no concept of development, no ideology of development. A breakthrough in the economy is 0,7% of GDP. While during the Brezhnev stagnation the minimum growth was 2,3%. Global growth is now 3,5%. Those. there is a constant lag. We need someone to blame. And just like in family relationships, those closest to you are to blame. The entire trade turnover between Belarus and Russia is about 3% for Russia. Whereas about 50% of GDP is exported by thieves and appropriated by the oligarchs. And on the Belarusian side, not everything is perfect, but for the Russian economy this is within the margin of error. All figures given are taken from the central media of Russia.

[prior]

Medvedev's statement is another confirmation of the short-sightedness of the Russian government.
Well, Lukashenko will turn to the Kremlin as a priest, what will you bet Poplars and Yars on? Where to go to Europe for chips on heavy trucks, through “brotherly” Lithuania or Ukraine?
Negotiations with the insolent Japanese are classified, and the Belarusians are given a demonstrative flogging.
With allies like Russia, there is no need for enemies. And he will rip you off, and bark... and accuse you.

[Olezhek]

Where to go to Europe for chips on heavy trucks,

This is what else freezes in Belarusians - their claims to a high sense of humor.
For some reason they seem very smart and humorous
Haven’t you noticed that Belarusian humor has somehow dropped in price in recent years?

Well, Lukashenko will turn to the Kremlin as a priest

Actually, he turned around a long time ago

What will you bet Poplars and Yars on?

That is why we promptly replace MZKT products
Because it’s pure betrayal and blackmail.

Medvedev's statement is another confirmation of the short-sightedness of the Russian government.

In principle, yes, the betrayal on the part of Belarus was discerned somehow very late.

[prior]

The lousy analyst from "Olezhek" - I'm Russian.
You defend Medvedev, don’t like Belarusians, well, all the children in the family are different....
But think about the branch on which you sit and saw.

[Olezhek]

But, about bitches...... - think about it.

I've already thought about it.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: prior

And he'll rip you off like a stick

Yes, your dad is already tired of feeding him, but he still can’t get enough

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: prior

Well, Lukashenko will turn to the Kremlin as a priest, what will you bet Poplars and Yars on?

We’ll find something to bet on, we’ll do it, but where will you sell your goods? no way, your International Labor Code will be abandoned, because it will no longer be needed

[purple]

Quote: prior

Well, Lukashenko will turn to the Kremlin as a priest, what will you bet Poplars and Yars on? Where to go to Europe for chips on heavy trucks, through “brotherly” Lithuania or Ukraine?

I haven’t laughed so much for a long time... say thank you for supporting you... We have tractors... but no one has been driving for “chips” for a long time... You carry everything... so think about what will happen if you can’t transport

[Diviz]

Lada no money but you hang in there

[XXXIII]

Quote from DiViZ

Lada no money but you hang in there

Well, now there really is no money, oil is sitting at the budget price, there is no profit in excess and is not expected, so the Russian Federation has begun tax maneuvers and energy redistribution to reduce costs for the domestic economy......

[BOB044]

We got greedy. They will sing differently, just like in Ukraine. Old Man wonders which region of Russia he will run to.

[XXXIII]

Quote: BOB044

We got greedy. They will sing differently, just like in Ukraine. Old Man wonders which region of Russia he will run to.

Yes, he is not in a hurry yet, he has established “ideal” order in himself, so that now any speck of dust is a threat to the purity of the policy of the Republic of Belarus.....

[SASHA OLD]

Magadan, Kolyma...

[suhov17]

Medvedev recalled that credit support for Belarus already exceeds $6,5 billion,

These are precisely the loans on which Russia makes good money at the expense of Belarus, and the Russian people are told that Belarus gets everything for free from Russia.
By the way, Belarus has an ideal credit history, having never been late in repaying a debt to anyone.
And yet, Russia gives money to Belarus at 4-6%, not counting related loans such as for the construction of a nuclear power plant, and gives money to enemies at 0,5%.
Judging by this policy and propaganda of Putin, Belarus is the most terrible enemy for Russia, which must be occupied or destroyed.

[Olezhek]

These are precisely the loans on which Russia makes good money at the expense of Belarus, and the Russian people are told that Belarus gets everything for free from Russia.
By the way, Belarus has an ideal credit history, having never been late in repaying a debt to anyone.

This “ideal” credit history can be explained very simply - Belarus requests an “extension”
about new loans....etc.
Making money means getting much more real money than you invested

And this is clearly not a case of RF-RB

[Amin_vivec]

We have made so much money that we can’t look at the red caviar, the black caviar turns us away))) the door to the bathtub does not close from the money that Belarus gives us and gives us)))))

[purple]

Well, this is really for nothing... isn’t it clear?

[Shel_007]

In my opinion, Medvedev responded neither harshly nor softly. In simple terms, the Republic of Belarus is a different country, and the conversation is conducted as if it were with another country, that’s all! Yes, it is still a union state, but a lot of concessions have been made as a union state! We want it to be like you, Russia, to be like it is in Russia, you have to be in Russia, it’s simple! Well, the Republic of Belarus is a different state! It's simple, isn't it? And being angry, sulking, offended by the Republic of Belarus is not appropriate here!

[suhov17]

This “ideal” credit history can be explained very simply - Belarus requests an “extension”
about new loans....etc.
Making money means getting much more real money than you invested

And this is clearly not a case of RF-RB

Extension is not forgiveness and Russia still receives its money + interest and + throws mud at the borrower.

[Olezhek]

Extension is not forgiveness and Russia still receives its money + interest and + throws mud at the borrower.

What the hell is money if it's "extended"?
Making money means actually getting much more than you invested.
Belarus is postponing the moment of payments to a certain “bright future”, which will never come.
She's basically not capable pay off for these debts.
“Someday later you will get a lot, a lot of money” - this is a fairy tale for suckers...
Lukashenko went to the Kremlin twice before the New Year because he was “already burning out”
There will be no free Russian assistance - and the Republic of Belarus will be bankrupt in 2019.

That is, it is not an “impeccable credit history” that is of interest, but the ability to repay external debts.
RB does not have this magical ability.
NO.

[SASHA OLD]

plus it sells gas at domestic prices...

[www3]

Quote: Incognito_2

As soon as Russia stopped giving its “boobs” to the Bulbash, Bulbash’s leader Mudashenko immediately began to issue his threats to Russia. Why threaten? In my opinion, with the naked eye, it is clear that he is prostituting, sitting on two chairs. He wants to defect to us - for GOD's sake! Let's see what happens to Belarus, in 5-10 years. And for Russia, it's time to stop giving its "boobs" to the post-Soviet republics. It’s time to stop lending to these republics, they still don’t return these loans to us. The government and the president need to think and care more about their people, and not about fake allies who at any moment can slip Russia a dirty trick or betrayal.

An interesting trend is emerging, however!
Russia supported Lukashenko and Yanukovych with all their might, and then bam they turned out to be traitors!
Please note that she supported Lukashenko without creating any pro-Russian movements in Belarus. They threw in pennies and looked at how good he was, turning a blind eye to what he was doing! )

Maybe something needs to be corrected at the conservatory? )

[Olezhek]

Medvedev said calmly without harshness, but the site administration was on fire

It’s just that Belarusians fundamentally do not understand diplomacy, diplomatic methods, or diplomatic language.
But it can be treated, although not painlessly...

[Molot1979]

Remind me, I forgot, where did Old Man last show himself to be a loyal ally of Russia? I can hear his whining and threats all the time, but I can’t remember any reason to listen to him.

[Olezhek]

Remind me, I forgot, where did Old Man last show himself to be a loyal ally of Russia?

They don't like this question...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Olezhek

They don't like this question...

and I like to ask them

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Molot1979

Remind me, I forgot, where did Old Man last show himself to be a loyal ally of Russia? I can hear his whining and threats all the time, but I can’t remember any reason to listen to him.

It hasn’t shown up anywhere, I can’t remember, it’s whining and watering. constantly blackmailed...
this is not an ally, this is a petty blackmailer who seriously thinks that we need him more than he needs us

[Tolik_74]

Finally, after 20 years of fooling the GDP, they pinched Faberge, and how they pinned him, his obstinate little brother. All that remains is to put the eunuch on starvation gas and oil rations. What will he do then?

[rusi4SPb]

Quote: www3

and you daragiya rasiyans didn’t you just wake up for an hour?)
Is it okay that the Belarusians and Ukrainians were developing the oil fields of Western Siberia?
in the Gomel region there is a town - Svetlogorsk, so more than half of the men there worked on a rotational basis as oil workers! My whole family, except my mother, worked on a rotational basis for 15 years. in Arkhangelsk, Nizhnevartovsk, Naryan Mar.
that is, we developed the entire industry as a union, and now we will sell everything to you for pennies. Well, it would be nice if the money went to Russians, and not to individual citizens.
so who earned this discount with their sweat and blood - these are Belarusians!

Cool you!!! Only you and your Byalorusians were paid a small salary for the shift and you don’t need to raise your wages.... And your Byalorussians went to the north of Rus' for a lot of money, and not to raise VIRTUALITY, so shut up, otherwise you’ll see “daragi rasiyane didn’t they kill themselves for an hour” If you talk like this about the fact that you earned a discount with your hump, you can go far! Presented after 30 years. The logic is IRON. AND WHAT IS Rus' WITHOUT crests and Bulbashes? This reminds me of my ex-Belarusian friend, she was fucked, but she made me guilty, because I should have forbidden her to go to Valaam with her friends, then she would not have cheated on me! Belarusian logic!!!
Belarus will not last without Russia, since you have statehood, but Belarus is not a state, and if you finally fall out with Russia, you will still have to cling to someone, only you have little choice, and therefore enough of capitalist experiments, you must become ONE WITH RUSSIA state, but Lukashenko is already preparing your son for a new king of All Belarus...
R.S. But a priori it is the Russians who do not allow you to live like in Central Europe! And this is what causes all the problems...

[Olezhek]

Something like that.

[Peter Ivanov]

Something like this???
NOT smart! And even very stupid! It’s stupid to be a doll in the hands of the puppeteers - the capitalists of the Russian Federation! Shame on you friend! It's a shame and not good!

[Alexander Rastopchenko]

I don’t understand why RUSSIA needs Belarus. Another freeloader. Send them to....

[Peter Ivanov]

The government of the Russian Federation, together with the government, as a committee representing the capitalists and thieving bankers of the Russian Federation, are in a severe crisis! Their powers are weaker than ever. And only the absence of a united communist, Bolshevik party does not allow them to completely leave the stage of Russian history. They - the capitalists of the Russian Federation - need a new distracting project!!! And especially after all their tricks with pensions and welfare states!!! He made up his mind! We decided to take over Belarus! There is something there to rob, to snatch, which still doesn’t work badly... Look at the cities, villages and fields of the Russian Federation, almost everywhere there is devastation - the fault of it all is Yeltsin’s COUNTER-REVOLUTION, December 1991!
We won't let our brothers be robbed! Don’t buy the lying “songs” about the “kept woman of Belarus”! We are all Soviet Citizens, oil and gas were explored and produced by all republics of the USSR! And, today, the fattening capitalists of the Russian Federation are trying to set Russian citizens against Belarusians! A shame! A shame! A shame!
For Our Soviet Motherland!
All Power to the Soviets!

[SASHA OLD]

I agree that Yeltsin is contrarian
But how about we all get together again and revive the USSR... after all the “feints” of the republics on the part of the West? after constant reminders from Lukashenko “it’s almost not my opinion - will I go to your enemies?”...

[Peter Ivanov]

So you immediately “revive”!? No, comrade! First, it is necessary to take away the power from the capitalists of the Russian Federation and re-create Socialism, Soviet Power, the New RSR - the Russian Soviet Republic! And we will continue to work there! Read from Vladimir Ilyich about the attitude of the Bolsheviks to the separation of Finland, Ukraine and Poland from Russia!
"When the socialist revolution matures, when it happens, it will spread to other countries, and we will help it, but we don’t know how. “The method of socialist revolution” is a phrase devoid of content. Since there are remnants of issues unresolved by the bourgeois revolution, we stand for their resolution. We are indifferent and neutral to the separatist movement. If Finland, if Poland, Ukraine separate from Russia, there is nothing bad in that. What's wrong with that? Whoever says this is a chauvinist. You have to go crazy to continue the policy of Tsar Nicholas... Once upon a time, Alexander I and Napoleon exchanged nations, once upon a time the tsars exchanged Poland. And we will continue these tactics of the kings? This is a rejection of the tactics of internationalism, this is chauvinism of the worst brand... We want a fraternal union of all peoples. If there is a Ukrainian republic and a Russian republic, there will be more communication, more trust between them. If the Ukrainians see that we have a republic of Soviets, they will not secede, but if we have a republic of Milyukov, they will secede."
V. I. Lenin (Ulyanov).
Full composition of writings. Volume 31, pp. 32-45. March - April 1917

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

Full composition of writings. Volume 31, pp. 32-45. March - April 1917

I read, moreover, in order to understand the foundations of Marxism-Leninism, I began to read Marx, I realized that I did not understand (most likely due to my age, then I was 25-26 years old), then I turned to Hegel, began to master dialectics, read “The Science of Logic ", only then did I return to Marx - I began to understand what he was writing about. Well, Lenina...
But I still open Lenin, I think he should be studied in universities, just like Marx and Hegel

[Peter Ivanov]

You are right Comrade! Marxist-Leninist study is our daily work and for me it is a pleasant mental exercise!
«If I know that I know little, I will achieve to know more, but if a person says that he is a communist and that he does not need to know anything solid, then nothing like a communist will come out of him." — V.I. Lenin. "Tasks of youth unions." Speech at the III All-Russian Congress of the Russian Communist Youth Union on October 2, 1920.—PSS, 5th ed., vol. 41, pp. 305-306.

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

“If I know that I know little, I will achieve to know more, but if a person says that he is a communist and that he does not need to know anything solid, then nothing like a communist will come out of him.”

Golden phrase!
that is why I (YET!) cannot call myself a communist: I understand that I still don’t know enough to start talking about the ideas of communism without making even a small mistake, because of which they will then rub my nose in, and it will turn out like this that I am discrediting the communist idea in someone’s eyes because I didn’t read it well, I didn’t understand it well.
But I’m learning, I’m learning, I’m still 35, everything is ahead!

[Peter Ivanov]

Congratulations! Sounds like healthy self-criticism! And remember that there are no limits to improvement!
If you don’t consider it intrusive, I can recommend, as the primary Marxist source, the work “Anti Dühring” by Friedrich Engels. Just try to find books published in the USSR! I often come across fake works of Marx, Engels and Lenin on the information network!
Also, there is such a method: take the period of our history that interests you and, starting from documents and facts, based on the works of the classics of M-L theory, sit down with the problem and move on! Vladimir Ilyich called this how to grab a key link and pull out the entire chain of the problem.
With Bolshevik greetings and good luck! If you have any questions, please contact me, on this resource I am trying to conduct polemics from Marxist-Leninist positions. Go for it, Comrade!

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Peter Ivanov

Congratulations! Sounds like healthy self-criticism! And remember that there are no limits to improvement!
If you don’t consider it intrusive, I can recommend, as the primary Marxist source, the work “Anti Dühring” by Friedrich Engels. Just try to find books published in the USSR! I often come across fake works of Marx, Engels and Lenin on the information network!
Also, there is such a method: take the period of our history that interests you and, starting from documents and facts, based on the works of the classics of M-L theory, sit down with the problem and move on! Vladimir Ilyich called this how to grab a key link and pull out the entire chain of the problem.
With Bolshevik greetings and good luck! If you have any questions, please contact me, on this resource I am trying to conduct polemics from Marxist-Leninist positions. Go for it, Comrade!

And the same to you, I think that truth is truly born in a dispute. Regarding Anti Dühring - special thanks!

[viach]

Poor fellow! Look how it was not Bolshevism that twisted you, but State Department propaganda! It’s not a sin, before shouting like that, to find out the current situation in the world, in the country (although in the country now there is a covert war going on, not for life, but...) Educate yourself, then you’ll shout on the sites!

[Peter Ivanov]

“Not Bolshevism” - there are no such words, but still write correctly, namely together - "Non-Bolshevism"!
Now about who and who or what twisted:
You are exactly you and people like you live in a world invented for you. This world was invented by the capitalists of the Russian Federation and their representatives - the so-called. government of the Russian Federation! It’s a pity that when watching the “news” on TV or on the information network, you don’t ask yourself the question: “Is all this true?”, “And if everything is so, then why...?” And further! “And who benefits from having you, everyone who says otherwise, listed as “agents of the State Department” - WITHOUT THINKING?”
So what did we get? And exactly that you do not see (correctly) what is happening around you! You look, but you don't see! You don't see the essence of what is happening! And despite the fact that I am a Bolshevik, I will finish from the Book of Books:
Matthew
...
15:13. He answered and said, Every plant that
My Heavenly Father did not plant it; it will be uprooted;
15:14. leave them alone: ​​they are blind leaders of the blind; and if
the blind leads the blind, then both fall into the pit.

Take care of yourself! Read and listen to more different opinions!

[Dmitry Kul]

I came across this site by accident, let me think I’ll read in the comments what the neighbors think about us.
I have not seen such a fountain of feces in relation to Belarus and Belarusians for a long time, if at all.

I would like to write a lot in response, but why? You won't understand anything, but I need to work.

[Olezhek]

I came across this site by accident, let me think I’ll read in the comments what the neighbors think about us.

Congratulations - I read tut.by for these purposes

“Who in a nightmare could have predicted that in the capital of Belarus, Minsk, people would be attacked just because they were Russian,” says the presenter.
Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/622598.html

They show fragments of a video where a Belarusian-speaking man, after a scuffle, kicks out another passenger wearing a Cossack hat from a Minsk metro car with the words: “Suitcase, station, Russia.”
Read more: https://news.tut.by/economics/622598.html

Now the reaction of the “Bratsk Byalorusians”:

I think that the place of too active Russians is in their historical homeland. And with the rest, who are not political, you can live peacefully.

But if Minsk decides to remain without Russia, then the future of Belarus is illusory. Russia, of course, will weaken, but Belarus simply will not exist.
You won’t believe it, but Belarus has been gone for almost 30 years

Will the eastern neighbor try to squeeze out what belongs to others? Perhaps he has no other friends, he has to beg at least someone, sometimes even by force, as in Ukraine.

They scare the Russian viewer.
Let them get used to the fact that Belarus is a separate country.

Russians love to step on rakes, they stepped on Ukrainian ones, now they want to step on Belarusian ones

Russia has been feeding this regime for 25 years and now, still dissatisfied, I, as a Belarusian, call for an end to the broadcasting of these propaganda channels in Belarus! nothing to see there, just stupidity and incitement to war and intolerance between nations

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[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Dmitry Kul

I have not seen such a fountain of feces in relation to Belarus and Belarusians for a long time, if at all.

There are no complaints about Belarusians specifically, they are the same as you and me, but the daddy - the daddy went nuts, it’s just that when the words “Belarusians” or “Belarussia” the majority mean the ruling elite

[Peter Ivanov]

You are terribly blind!

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

You are terribly blind!

no, I’m just looking at Lukashenko’s behavior not specifically based on recent speeches, but over the past few years

[Peter Ivanov]

Dad, this is part of the problem! Not the biggest, and not the most important in this matter! Let's try to look at the problem as a whole! The failures of Putin’s “brilliant plan,” and especially in 2018, force the capitalist government of the Russian Federation, like the Committee of Representatives of Capitalists and Bankers (according to Max, “KP Manifesto”), to look for a way out of the impending catastrophe! We need a “unique”, “stunning”, “fooling the people” plan of action that will distract the peoples of the Russian Federation from growing internal problems! So that citizens of the Russian Federation look for the culprits not in home-grown capitalists, not in the failures of the so-called. economic reforms in the Russian Federation, and in the “fathers”, “state departments” and the people of Belarus “sucked” to the body of the Russian Federation!!! This is the “ambush”, as young people say today!
This is Marxism, Comrade! Seeing behind many things that are happening is the main thing, the true thing!

[Peter Ivanov]

And fighting class ignorance, Comrade, this is real work! The capitalists of the Russian Federation wanted to gobble up the capitalist market of Belarus, so we need to help both the Russian and Belarusian peoples figure out why they are being led by the nose or bought at an hour like they are cheap!

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Peter Ivanov

And fighting class ignorance, Comrade, this is real work! The capitalists of the Russian Federation wanted to gobble up the capitalist market of Belarus, so we need to help both the Russian and Belarusian peoples figure out why they are being led by the nose or bought at an hour like they are cheap!

I don’t need to talk about class ignorance, if I get stuck, I’ll give you a lecture about Marxism-Leninism that will make you wash your face, stop talking with slogans intended for those who have just learned the alphabet, it’s YOU who look at what’s happening based on the latest situation. Well, the fact that some capitalists want to gobble up other capitalists can only mean one thing: there will be fewer capitalists - and that’s good, I’m reasoning logically based on your phrase “The capitalists of the Russian Federation wanted to gobble up the capitalist market of Belarus,” since you oppose this, it means it’s YOU suffer from class ignorance

[Peter Ivanov]

Accepted criticism!
But it will still not be good! Hail them and the capitalists, but the peoples of both Belarus and the Russian Federation will live even worse! The absorption of the Belarusian economy by banks and capital of the Russian Federation will bring it destruction and nothing more. Take a look at the former, mighty RSFSR and what has become of it today...

[SASHA OLD]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

Accepted criticism!

I also accepted your criticism and in some places noted the gaps that you pointed out, thank you

[Peter Ivanov]

Comrade! Our struggle did not end in December 1991, during the counter-revolutionary coup. This break transferred HER to a New Quality!
Mouth Front!

[viach]

Poor fellow! Sorry! Work.

[Anchonsha]

Yes, everyone wants to cling to Russia and at the same time for free. It’s a sin for Old Man to complain about Russia, but we won’t allow him to show his rudeness and blackmail towards Russia. Let’s each live on his own now until Old Man returns all the loans he took from us. It’s unfortunate that we have such bad relations, but Russia is not to blame for this and feed Belarus for nothing, and even endure threats that he will go to the West, Russia does not intend to.

[Peter Ivanov]

Who brainwashed you so well? If you don't see the obvious! The capitalists of the Russian Federation wanted to gobble up the capitalist market of Belarus, and both Belarusians and Russians will suffer. The first will go around the world, and the second, including you, will begin to live even poorer, without Belarusian milk, at least! Look around you!!! See the light!!! Remove the Kremlin noodles from your ears!!!

[viach]

Petya, why are you conveying your illiteracy to others? Belarusian socialism hangs on Russia's neck. What, they want to live better and better, and the Russians pay for it? They have become insolent and supply Russian products (gasoline, for example) cheaply to Ukraine, they say, fight boldly, kill Russians, and we have to pay for all this? Stop spreading State Department noodles! She's rotten!

[Peter Ivanov]

Yes Yes! You won’t understand if you receive your knowledge through the prism of the Kremlin!! Continue to be mistaken! Of course, you can’t see beyond your garden, and binoculars-Marxism-Leninism... this is not for you! The communists, along with Stalin, ate children for breakfast!!! Right?
Eh, you are thoughtless dullness. And those who don’t live in the Russian Federation travel to you and people like you, but only cut hair from it and manipulate people like you. Belarus has its own problems. It’s just that Belarusian citizens must deal with them. And Belarus is not a parasite or a freeloader, it earns its own money! So, less great-power snobbery and chauvinism! Especially if you don’t have deep details.
Greetings to the Bolsheviks! Read more different opinions and information from authentic, preferably, sources.

[vitvit123]

And Belarus is not a parasite or a freeloader, it earns its own money!
Now this is a joke.

[Peter Ivanov]

This is a joke for people like you! Open your eyes and look who is pouring this nonsense into your ears! Who benefits from snatching a piece from the Belarusian brothers and letting THEM go to peace? Do you think the capitalists and bankers of the Russian Federation will share with you? No!!! And it will become more expensive for you to eat afterwards, because the ruined Belarusian farms will not supply a single gram of milk, cheese or butter to the Russian Federation!! And not only! Look at the root!

[vitvit123]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

This is a joke for people like you! Open your eyes and look who is pouring this nonsense into your ears! Who benefits from snatching a piece from the Belarusian brothers and letting THEM go to peace? Do you think the capitalists and bankers of the Russian Federation will share with you? No!!! And it will become more expensive for you to eat afterwards, because the ruined Belarusian farms will not supply a single gram of milk, cheese or butter to the Russian Federation!! And not only! Look at the root!
Reply

I learned about capitalists, bankers and oligarchs only from Belarusians, well, this is the nonsense that they treat you there or something....You have Luka as an absolute aligarch and the ruler of your territory - you live nothing. Which one is more expensive for us to eat, are you kidding me that the stores are filled with this milk and their own meat, they are coming to meet you again and allow you to sell. Actually, this is a truism in economics, the sales market! They actually start wars for him, but they allow you to trade for free. They keep the prices down...., don’t write nonsense! There’s no need to throw around clever phrases, in such cases it turns out completely inadequate.

[Peter Ivanov]

Everything is clear with you! The Union has been full of these since the 80s! The Old Man is in Belarus, and this is their Belarusian problem! And you take the Kremlin noodles off your ears! Otherwise, the capitalists and bankers of the Russian Federation and Belarus will ride on your children and grandchildren! People with thoughts like yours are a joy to them! For it is rightly said: “You don’t need a knife for a fool, you’ll lie to him big time, and do whatever you want with him!”
Don't be like that!

[vitvit123]

Quote: Pyotr Ivanov

Everything is clear with you! The Union has been full of these since the 80s! The Old Man is in Belarus, and this is their Belarusian problem! And you take the Kremlin noodles off your ears! Otherwise, the capitalists and bankers of the Russian Federation and Belarus will ride on your children and grandchildren! People with thoughts like yours are a joy to them! For it is rightly said: “You don’t need a knife for a fool, you’ll lie to him big time, and do whatever you want with him!”
Don't be like that!

Nothing again! Words - water, common phrases.

[Peter Ivanov]

Read on! I don’t write meaningless posts! I want people to correctly evaluate their surroundings! What is called “Look at the root!”, as Kuzma Prutkov said. Let's go deeper! Ordinary people, Soviet people, whether in the Russian Federation, Ukraine, Kazakhstan or the Republic of Belarus, have one enemy - these are home-grown capitalists, bankers and clergy and state management committees - their governments! You are simply being used to their advantage by the capitalists of the Russian Federation in their aspirations to seize the markets of Belarus, and what will happen there after - look at the devastated RSFSR, now the Russian Federation! All the media in the Russian Federation are covering up everything that you write here under this murmur! If you are a simple citizen, a proletarian worker, a hired worker, an office worker or an unemployed person, then these truths should be clear to you! Capitalists don't go to war! And their children won't go! And they will put you in a tarpaulin and send you to bunkers! Good evening!
Proletarians of all countries, unite!

[Icarus]

They have become insolent and are supplying Russian products (gasoline, for example) cheaply to Ukraine

It’s not “they became insolent,” but he became insolent - Lukashenko. What do Belarusians have to do with it? You are “our” literate. Although there is no information about Lukashenko in the media that he is increasing his personal wealth as a result of trading in petroleum products. But in any case, he will undoubtedly use the proceeds from the sale of our petroleum products as political capital. What is our flaw. However, it is not a fact that the income not received by the Russian federal budget from the zeroing of the export duty on petroleum products for the Republic of Belarus was taken from our “neck”.

[Peter Ivanov]

Wake up from hypnosis! No one has taken a liking to you personally, except your own bankers and capitalists! You will understand the situation first! Why spread other people's pseudo-thoughts and pseudo-conclusions! Look at the root, as Kozma Prutkov taught!

[viach]

Long, long ago, Lukashenko, and Belarus itself, should have been curbed! Spoiled.

[Icarus]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

And why not give the citizens of Belarus the right to a Far Eastern hectare, and automatically receive a passport of the Russian Federation at the same time?

If this is not sarcasm, then I agree, plus. I don’t think that many Belarusians will want to explore the Far East and Siberia. But the move will be very beautiful.

[Amin_vivec]

no, that's not sarcasm at all.