Get up, great country, get up ...

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Literally a few days ago in one of the materials I spoke on the topic that we would go far at such a pace, in terms of what fascism revolts around its head, and now - here you are, a clear and unequivocal confirmation of the words.

Get up, great country, get up ...




The fact that, sooner or later, Hungary will lift its head and join its Italian colleagues in the Axis bloc, it was clear and understandable. Well, few in what country of the former socialist camp hate us less. Well, except in Poland, but they have been doing it there already for a long time.

And immediately on the page of the government itself ... No, it’s possible that they just hacked at the weekend, but to be honest, I don’t believe it. When too many coincidences - this is already the pattern.

Moreover, there is a clear analogy with the Italians, who confidently mastered the south of the Voronezh and Belgorod regions. The same alpine shooters that suit today historical excursions "to places of military glory."

Say, and what the hell is it, the glory?

But such. Here you have a copy of a pair of documents, as can be seen from the links, quite legally published in Italy. Just get a grasp on what Mussolini and Gariboldi were talking about. And compare with what the Hungarians broadcast.





Now many will ask the question: sort of started for the Hungarians, what did the Italians slip into?

The question is very smart, because I, without waiting, asked myself.

But the fact is that the Italians have already passed a twenty-year path to the glory of their defeated heroes. And today already reaping the benefits. And the Hungarians just get on this path.

But Hungarians will be much easier. Veterans of the Great Patriotic War are rapidly leaving, and I don’t watch crowds of defenders of their memory today. On the other hand, I observe perfectly how willingly (on the example of the Rossoshansky administration) modern Russian officials go to cooperate with the descendants of the invaders and murderers. And the prosecutor's office and other institutions willingly cover them.

And the Hungarians already have something to push off. Two memorial cemeteries on Voronezh land, in Rudkino and Boldyrevka.

About Hungarians, who were not taken prisoner near Voronezh.

And all in Russia 492 cemeteries of Hungarians, where there are about 60 thousands of warriors, including memorials and memorials. In Hungary, 994 is the burial of Soviet soldiers, in which 120 rests thousands of people. Hungary promised to look after the graves of Soviet soldiers on its territory, and Russia agreed to the construction of memorials.

And I must say, both parties honestly complied with the terms of the agreement. Unlike Ukraine, Poland, Bulgaria, on the territory of Hungary there were no special problems with the monuments to our soldiers.

Apparently, they will soon.

Probably not in the territory of Hungary, but with us. In the image and likeness of Italian colleagues, the Hungarians may well set up routes to worship the tombs of their warriors.

Again the answer to the question: why do I pay so much attention to this? And everything is simple. Where do we have the bulk of the Hungarians? Yes, all the same in the Voronezh region. Not for nothing the word "Korotoyak" for a good third of the Hungarian population is an analogue of the Piskarevsky cemetery for the native of Leningrad. At least one of the relatives is buried there.

Comparison, of course, so-so, for particularly sensitive I apologize at once, but the essence is clear. Under Korotoyak and Ostrogozhsk the Hungarians were not just beaten, they were destroyed without the slightest doubt.

And now these are nonhumans (namely, the Magyars themselves have shown themselves) in their homeland become heroes and objects for worship.

It is clear that in the image and likeness of the Italian admirers of the knocked out Alpine shooters, now the Hungarians will begin to adjust the routes to the places of "military glory". In the cemeteries of their “heroes”, where they will hang ribbons on crosses and lay wreaths.

And, I must say, the Hungarians are able to. And not like the Italians, will do without noise and processions with the fascist standards. Quietly, but effective.

Here, for comparison. The old cemetery of the famous monastery in Divnogorie.



Here is a cross on the grave of the Hungarians who died in the hospital, which was in the monastery during the occupation.



But the graves of our fighters. More precisely, what is left of them. Feel, as they say, the difference.



The difference was, is and will be. Unfortunately. And it has happened, is and will continue to be stronger and stronger the most terrible thing - the admiration of our local officials before the temptation to take money and allow foreign “guests” to do what they like.

And, sure, neither Hungarians, nor Italians, nor Romanians (potential ones in line) in their routes are unlikely to visit other cemeteries. Where their victims lie.

Indeed, to what?

Meanwhile, it is worthwhile to sometimes find the existing differences. We already talked about what the Hungarian memorial in Rudkino looks like and whether it is possible to compare it with a military burial in Gremyachi, but we will definitely visit. To make sure that the comparison is not in our favor.

But how everything looks in Rossosh, we can show. Here are the monuments to the Italians. At the cemetery, even the overhaul done.



About the illegal burial ground with the bones of the Italian "heroes" inside I already wrote.



But what a monument to the victims of Italians, more than two thousand Rossoshans, shot by the Italians in a concentration camp looks like. Marble in one case and brick with a roofing iron in the other.







And a calm thought came to mind. Without hysterics, a pure statement of fact.

We lose on all fronts.

Veterans leave, monuments dilapidate, Eternal fires extinguish and replace with Lights of memory, which are lit 1-2 once a year, people gradually get a damn about everything that happens around, because you need to survive, and simply have no time to realize their patriotism ... Or there is no place.

And around us a ring is gradually being formed from not only non-flaming regimes, but also claims to us. Baltic States, Poland, Ukraine, now Hungary. In fact, the Hungarian claims with 1956 year stretch, but in this regard, we would like to be early.

Nobody forced Hungary to send soldiers to Stalingrad and Voronezh to send. And it is not our fault that in fascist Hungary this is precisely how their national interests were understood, which somehow turned out to be thousands of kilometers to the east.

In general, yes, Hungarians and under fascism lived a good life, equal and not enough dusty. So far, the Red Army has not convinced that fascism is bad.

But now everything is not the same as in the times of the USSR. Now we don’t have to prove anything to anyone, and our opinion doesn’t particularly interest anyone.

The era of the bipolar world and global ideologies is gone along with the Soviet Union.

And instead of global ideologies, the era of nationalism is returning to Europe. And what era - such and heroes.

Yes, a normal Russian person will be jarred by such heroes. But sorry, with the current scale of values ​​- this is the national lyrics, nothing more. Everyone's personal matter.

But if you look realistically, abstracting from the stupid cries of the patriotic patriots, "Yes, we will repeat 45," "Break through, guys!" And other husks, it will become clear and understandable that nothing good is expected in this regard. Do not break through anywhere and do not repeat. Well, if only for the computer keyboard ...

The facts show that revanchism is beginning to flourish with a double color in Europe, and, worst of all, the facts show that it meets with understanding and support in our country. And it is quite possible that in the very near future we will be able to see how monuments to heroes from Italy, Hungary, Romania, Germany, France and other countries participating in the European team, who attacked us in 1941, will start to appear here and there.

And how monuments to our soldiers will wither and dilapidate against their background.

And then, and until the complete census of history is at hand.

The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...
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  1. +70
    15 January 2019 05: 38
    time to get up again ...

    Only Malchish sees that one old grandfather a hundred years old came out of the gate. Grandfather wanted to raise a rifle, but he’s so old that he won’t pick it up. Grandfather wanted to fasten the saber, but he is so weak that he will not fasten it. Then the grandfather sat on the blockage, bowed his head and cried.
    Where are they, Milchishy?
    1. +34
      15 January 2019 06: 23
      The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...
      and not only against fascism ...
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 08: 47
        Quote: Aerodrome
        The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...
        and not only against fascism ...

        What you are talking about is fascism, one of its varieties.
        1. -18
          15 January 2019 10: 41
          Quote: free
          What you are talking about is fascism, one of its varieties.

          To bring our terminological apparatus to uniformity, so that everyone would have the same understanding of the term fascismI propose the following interpretation:

          Fascism - This is one of the types of culture of public self-government, possible only in a crowd-"elite" society. Fascism is one of the expressions of psychic Trotskyism.

          The essence of fascism as such, regardless of how you call it, what ideas it covers up and what methods it exercises power in society, in the active support by a crowd of “little people” - on the ideological conviction of themselves or lack of ideality based on animal-instinctive behavior - the system of abuse of power by the “elite” oligarchy, which:

          - represents unrighteousness as supposedly true “justice”, and on this basis, distorting the worldview of people, with all its power, cultivates unrighteousness in society, preventing people from becoming a person;

          - under various pretexts, with all power subordinate to her, it suppresses everyone and everyone who doubts the righteousness of her own and her policies, and also suppresses those whom she suspects.

          The crowd, by definition of V. G. Belinsky, is “a collection of people living according to tradition and reasoning according to authority” (in the definition of A. Pushkin, “people are meaningless”), i.e. crowd - a multitude of individuals living shamelessly and essentially thoughtlessly - automatically or under the control of the behavior of its representatives from the outside. And it does not matter whether the ruling oligarchy speaks publicly and ceremonially, being extolled over society; either extolled by default or in an unconscious pride, publicly portraying humility and service to the crowd, calling it people; or acts secretly, assuring society of its supposedly non-existence and, accordingly, “non-existence *”, of its inaction, as a result of which everything in the life of society flows supposedly “by itself”, and not purposefully according to the scripts of conceptually powerful curators of the oligarchy.

          This definition-description of fascism does not include frightening and striking signs of its manifestations in action: symbolism; an ideology calling for violence and the annihilation of those whom the masters of fascism have designated as irreparable social evil; calls for the creation of political parties with strict discipline and a system of terror, militias, etc.

          About the misanthropic essence of fascism on the basis of the lesson taught by all German fascism, it is said after 1945 * g. lot. Due to the horror of German fascism that became negatively cult, 1933 - 1945 * the given definition may seem to some to be lightweight, divorced from real life (abstract), and therefore not meeting the task of protecting the future from the threat of fascism.

          In reality, it is precisely this definition that is the definition of fascism in essence, and not according to the place of origin and not according to the peculiarities of its formation and manifestation in the life of society, which qualitatively distinguishes it from most of the “definitions” of “fascism” given by various explanatory and encyclopedic dictionaries . "

          VP of the USSR
          1. +21
            15 January 2019 14: 17
            Quote: Boris55
            Fascism is one of the types of culture of public self-government, possible only in a crowd of "elite" society. Fascism is one of the expressions of psychic Trotskyism.

            ----------------------------
            Boris, fascism is an extreme form of the dictatorship of finance capital, and today it is clearly visible. The power of the oligarchs-bankers leads the country to the establishment of the power of the monarch, the irreplaceable leader, leader, helmsman. We are led to the idea that order can be established by paramilitary organizations such as Cossacks, Black Hundreds or "right-thinking" citizens, and not by any means the police and other structures of the state of the law-enforcement nature. Georgy Dimitrov gave an exhaustive definition of this phenomenon. Fascism is wanted by "small shopkeepers", that is, the established middle class, the bourgeoisie, who see a threat to their way of life in any changes, fearing for their credit good.
            1. -4
              15 January 2019 16: 30
              Quote: Altona
              ... fascism is an extreme form of dictatorship ...

              Fascism is when a society accepts that social inequality and considers it the only right one. A good example of fascism is the caste system in India (Nepal).



              Quote: Altona
              We are led to the idea that the order can be established ... but not the police and other structures of the state law enforcement

              And there are enough such articles defaming the government on this site.
              1. +6
                15 January 2019 23: 17
                Then ZIONISM is also FASCISM))))
                1. 0
                  21 January 2019 10: 11
                  Quote: Amin_Vivec
                  Then ZIONISM is also FASCISM))))

                  He is Zionofascism
          2. +1
            15 January 2019 16: 42
            Quote: Boris55
            To bring our terminological apparatus to uniformity, so that everyone would have the same understanding of the term fascism, I propose this interpretation:

            This is what you got a shit, colleague, I’m awesome! Is this why everyone wants to be so far from the work of the Inner Predictor, or disagree with its interpretation? Maybe few have heard of him? The definition is very sensibly set out, with reference to the current realities. But just in order to avoid the problems identified by the author of the article, it would not hurt the young generation to get acquainted with the principles and work of the USSR Supreme Council IMHO. hi
            1. 0
              15 January 2019 21: 23
              Quote: businessv
              This is what you got a shit, colleague, I’m awesome!

              hi This is not my first day on the site and I know very well what you can get the pros and cons for. If I had participated in this "cockroach race", I would have been a Marshal for a long time, but I am not interested in this.

              ps.
              There are many minuses, but they are lightweight (~ they take off one ball at a time), which suggests that the same "friend", or several, are registered under different nicknames from different mailboxes. Yes
              1. +1
                15 January 2019 22: 13
                Quote: Boris55
                that one and the same "friend", or several, are registered under different nicknames from different mailboxes.

                Yes, I have had such an opinion for quite some time. drinks
          3. 0
            21 January 2019 10: 15
            Quote: Boris55
            Fascism is one of the expressions of psychic Trotskyism.

            Quote: Boris55
            Fascism is one of the expressions of psychic Trotskyism.

            Trotskyism is the primary Fascism
      2. +22
        15 January 2019 09: 56
        Yes, it's time to wake up and get up. Their fascist liberals in the country in bulk in power.
      3. +17
        15 January 2019 10: 00
        Not only against fascism, but also against our liberalism and collectionism.
    2. +21
      15 January 2019 06: 44
      I hope that they are ... They will not be told about them in the media, and they will not be sucked on like those stupid youngsters in the Bundestag .. Are they Vladimir hi
      1. +24
        15 January 2019 07: 23
        The Hungarians stated the following:
        The Hungarian government on the official Facebook page called commemorate Hungarian soldiers who fought against the USSR along with the Germans.

        The appeal states that need to thank grandfatherswhich "to the end fought for Hungary on the Don. " It is emphasized that the Hungarians attacked the red army, which defeated them, as a result of which the Magyars lost 120 thousand people, many of whom were captured.


        It generally goes beyond reason: to thank criminals for atrocities in a foreign land.
        They are crazy ...
        1. -3
          15 January 2019 09: 15
          I just don’t understand the author’s phrase that he doesn’t observe “crowds of defenders of the memory of our departing veterans”! Well, why say so? We have launched a whole search movement (Search Movement of Russia) in which thousands and thousands of young people participate. Assistance to search organizations is provided through the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Russian Geographical Society and independent public organizations. There is a program to create search teams from among schoolchildren in the regions. Training in the methodology and technology of search is conducted. The need to study the history of their Fatherland is brought up in children. Pupils of military - patriotic clubs, children who got into a difficult life situation are involved in this noble cause. orphans, children from orphanages. I would also like to say that in Russia and abroad, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation is carrying out work to perpetuate the memory of the defenders of the Fatherland. There is appropriate management. The Rosvoencenter was established under the Government of the Russian Federation. Go to the website of the Office of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for perpetuating the memory of those who died defending the Fatherland. Email [email protected], Moscow, st. Petrovsko-Razumovskaya alley 12A, tel. 8 495 612 00 42. You can also get acquainted with the centralized registration of military graves. Use the information service "Memory of the people". Learn about government support. work with youth and international activities in this direction.
        2. +21
          15 January 2019 09: 58
          [quoteThey are crazy ...] [/ quote] It's not they who are crazy, but we. And for a long time, in the 80s.
        3. +16
          15 January 2019 10: 02
          It is our authorities who have gone mad, have long pressed the tail of this evil.
        4. +13
          15 January 2019 10: 34
          Olgovich
          this is the first time I absolutely agree with you - they are apparently really crazy and want money ....

          Z.Y. I somehow had a dream - that we accidentally stomped a rocket on some island near Japan. And everyone became very polite, just in case ....

          Something similar was described by the Strugatskys in "Weighed Down by Evil"
        5. +21
          15 January 2019 12: 42
          Quote: Olgovich
          to thank criminals for atrocities in a foreign land.
          They gone crazy ...

          Citizen Olgovich, THEY are your ideological comrades-in-arms, you can say co-comrades. Why are you surprised?

          You hate the Soviets and the Hungarians hated the Soviets. You fired a commie and the Hungarians fired a commie. You are in favor of private ownership of land and means of production and Hungarians for private ownership of land and means of production.

          As they say - find ten differences.
          1. -3
            15 January 2019 15: 30
            Quote: McAr
            You hate the Soviets and the Hungarians hated the Soviets. You fired a commie and the Hungarians fired a commie. You are in favor of private ownership of land and means of production and Hungarians for private ownership of land and means of production.
            - with all my disagreement with Olgovich, he stands FOR RUSSIA(in his understanding), but not AGAINST.
            And he never did not call for the formula: "And then THEY would win - we would drink Bavarian" ...
            No need to attribute to the opponent too much ....
            1. +8
              15 January 2019 15: 36
              Quote: your1970
              - with all my disagreement with Olgovich, he stands FOR Russia (in his understanding), but not AGAINST.
              And he never called for the formula: "And then THEY would have won - we would have drank Bavarian" ...
              No need to attribute to the opponent too much ....

              I do not ascribe this to him directly. But, you see, he, if you have observed his position for at least a couple of months, for the rule of the bourgeois class. Those. for the dominance of a scanty, on the fingers of a few number of organisms, over the entire society of people. What is this if not Russophobia hidden by nationally oriented speeches?
        6. +3
          15 January 2019 13: 51
          My grandmother told me that the Magyars were especially atrocious in Ukraine ... They robbed, scoffed, raped ..
        7. +1
          19 January 2019 15: 55
          They also have ghouls in power and they are clearly not solving universal problems. Worse if the people of Hungary are seriously imbued with such pathos.
    3. +17
      15 January 2019 08: 45
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      time to get up again ...

      Only Malchish sees that one old grandfather a hundred years old came out of the gate. Grandfather wanted to raise a rifle, but he’s so old that he won’t pick it up. Grandfather wanted to fasten the saber, but he is so weak that he will not fasten it. Then the grandfather sat on the blockage, bowed his head and cried.
      Where are they, Milchishy?

      We ourselves must become these boys! There are no others and never will be!
      1. +15
        15 January 2019 08: 48
        Andrey ! hi I no longer pull on the Boy, more like that grandfather, unfortunately ...
        1. +15
          15 January 2019 08: 55
          It doesn’t matter Father! Everyone will find a shoulder strap.
    4. +12
      15 January 2019 09: 02
      Where are they, Milchishy?
      And the boys wear edelweiss on caps, they recently drove one with all the people into the paint in public transport. am
    5. +9
      15 January 2019 13: 38
      Quote from Uncle Lee
      Where are they, Milchishy?

      And they just showed it on TV. At the "Gaidar Readings". Ugh...
    6. +3
      15 January 2019 13: 42
      It is foolish to wait for gratitude from the descendants of those who were defeated by our veterans!
    7. +4
      15 January 2019 16: 30
      They do not appear on their own. They need to be educated. As long as our generation is alive, something else can be done. And we leave without telling them anything and without teaching anything, they will quickly become the boy Kolya from Urengoy.
    8. +3
      15 January 2019 16: 32
      Are growing. Brought up. But how difficult it is to raise and educate them with a mute baykot from the side of the state.
    9. +17
      15 January 2019 16: 53
      And what should the country protect? Salary of 10 thousand? Or protect retirement at 65? Or protect the garden tax as unearned income? But at the same time protect the high gas prices? But the main thing is to protect the country whose property in the form of colossal natural resources does not belong to the people, but belongs to several persons. And these people allow the people of Russia to live in the country, as in a rented apartment. The biggest threat to RUSSIA comes from within the country! I lived in the Soviet Union and was proud of that country. And now I want to grab my head and wake up with the hope that all this is a nightmare.
      1. +4
        15 January 2019 21: 35
        Quote: valton
        wake up with the hope that all this is a nightmare.

        I also often think about waking up
    10. 0
      15 January 2019 19: 58
      Where are they, Milchishy?

      There are little boys, are not extinct! Only bad guys rule them ...
  2. -20
    15 January 2019 05: 43
    I, of course, do not whitewash the aggressors, but not all of them were fascists and Nazis, even in the Wehrmacht. There is a separate conversation about the SS. As for the "macaroni", in Soviet times there were even joint films about the "difficult" fate "of Italians in Russia "! "Sunflowers" with Marcello Mastraiani and Sophia Loren, for example. I also remember "They followed the soldiers" about a marching brothel in Russia, by the way in the Soviet box office.
    And probably everyone knows about the memorial to the fallen invaders of the Crimean War.
    1. +34
      15 January 2019 05: 56
      There is a good film about the natural demise of the Italian fascists in the land of Stalingrad ... They went east ...
      Watch a very impressive movie.
      As for the author’s concern ... I propose here to solve the problem in a Hollywood way ... create a series of talented and effective films in the style of ... Go and See ... about the crimes of Hungarians in our country and advertise them with great fanfare in all MASS MEDIA.
      But for this, state support is needed with the involvement of talented cinema figures ... it is impossible to do without it. what
      I've been worried about other things lately ...
      Germans offer to introduce a visa-free regime for people from Russia under the age of 21 ...
      I immediately remembered Kolya from Urengoy ... this is where the crusaders can put us a big pig.
      1. +14
        15 January 2019 06: 21
        "Talented" figures (with irony) have already got hold of - "Holiday" is only worth it.

        Alexey hi
        1. +18
          15 January 2019 06: 25
          Let’s invite Steven Spielberg ... Schindler’s list was very well shot by this comrade ... why not take off about Voronezh Region where the Hungarians killed a lot of Russian people.
          1. +21
            15 January 2019 06: 34
            Yes God be with him, with Spielberg. If only ours didn’t take off. Not good.

            And then "festive" figures will turn everything and everyone .. And now I am ashamed to look veterans in the eyes for such films. The daughter-in-law has a blockade grandmother.

            Uncle Lee and I yesterday only remembered Bykov, Smirnov. There are no more such! There are "festive" ones.

            Trouble.
          2. -7
            15 January 2019 13: 51
            Quote: The same Lech
            Let’s invite Steven Spielberg ... Schindler’s list was very well shot by this comrade ... why not take off about Voronezh Region where the Hungarians killed a lot of Russian people.

            And how many Russian people were ruined by the fascism of Trotsky-Bronstein and his accomplices Zalkind-Zemlyachka, Bela Kun, Tukhachevsky, Fruma Khaikina, ..
            1. -1
              19 January 2019 16: 03
              And let's count to the last knee! Why, one simple thing is revealed there, that man is an animal in itself!
              1. 0
                21 January 2019 19: 02
                Quote: Campanella
                And let's count to the last knee! Why, one simple thing is revealed there, that man is an animal in itself!

                Well, of course! According to the hateful Zionofascist publications Shulchan Aruch,
                Tania "only Jews are considered people." And all the rest (non-Jews) are GOIs, which are nothing more than "two-legged cattle"
                SO count to the last knees you have ...
        2. +28
          15 January 2019 07: 55
          I read the article. I remembered two proverbs "There is nothing to blame on the mirror if the face is crooked." And "you can't be a little pregnant." The first proverb refers to the nineties. Terry anti-communism flourished in official circles and the media. GUNDOSILI, that there was terror in the Red Army, the communists drove people to war from under the stick, and those who went to war were voluntarily given sticks instead of weapons, the command was mediocre. We won by some magic. When Putin arrived, the stench diminished. But now there are calls to repent, Gozman and Ammanuel are prospering on TV, and a stout aunt on TV reports that Putin was baptized secretly because his father was a communist. My father was an officer and a communist, and my mother was a believer. She baptized me, but not mysteriously, just my father did not come to church. No tragedy. There is a lot of hypocrisy over the Stalinist repression. Tricks - transfer the moral of the 21st century to the twentieth century. For example, in France, the last public guillotine was in 1939, but no one there calls on France to repent. Secondly. there were many among the executed and those for whom the bullet was simply tired of waiting. So it's their own fault, they are looking at us.
      2. +16
        15 January 2019 07: 27
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        As for the author’s concern ... then I propose here to solve the problem in a Hollywood way ...

        And arrange the burials themselves наших the soldier didn’t even think of it?
      3. -6
        15 January 2019 09: 44
        Why worry about visa-free travel? The patriots will not leave, and the rest of them will do it, why are they needed here?
        1. +1
          19 January 2019 16: 06
          Pioneering reasoning, giving up position after position, you lose. During the Second World War, they fought for every stone, and therefore they won.
      4. +9
        15 January 2019 10: 06
        Propaganda is a type of strategic disguise. This propaganda is well absorbed by just young people until the 21 year, there is no need to go far, Ukraine is an example.
      5. +2
        16 January 2019 14: 38
        Alexey, with both hands for your proposal. But where now to find talented filmmakers? There are no screenwriters, no directors, no actors for such a film. All our cinema can shoot is low-standard TV shows and Holidays.
    2. +11
      15 January 2019 06: 03
      With Italy in Soviet times, there were quite good relations. Ozerov in the Liberation, too, Italian actors starred.
      1. +26
        15 January 2019 06: 12
        Italians respect the strong ... that's all.
        The fact that Italy participates in sanctions against Russia shows that it can again participate in a military campaign against us for the campaign ... nothing new.
        1. +10
          15 January 2019 07: 30
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          Italians respect the strong ... that's all.

          And someone respects the weak?
          1. +11
            15 January 2019 10: 11
            Quote: AllXVahhaB
            And someone respects the weak?

            This is generally a difficult task. And what - throw them off a cliff? Everyone - our, but only rotten grain - for release.
            However, the weak can be smart, and economic, and scrupulous, and persistent, and judicious, and convenient colleague, and indeed a woman. wink
            1. +4
              15 January 2019 11: 04
              Quote: Lycan
              This is generally a difficult task. And what - throw them off a cliff? Everyone - our, but only rotten grain - for release.
              However, the weak can be smart, and economic, and scrupulous, and persistent, and judicious, and convenient colleague, and indeed a woman.

              And aren’t we talking about countries and peoples? Not?
              Where are they weak in history? Though scrupulous, even smart? Where? Maybe those who were already smart were very smart, but we don’t recognize it, because they aren’t already ... So, first of all, you need to be strong, because only this allows you to survive and stay in History. And the one who survived draws his mind and scrupulousness, and even condescension to the weak ... True, the latter is more our prerogative, the rest are not so gracious ...
              1. 0
                15 January 2019 13: 51
                Weakest in history? Yes, there they are: the Vatican, Liechtenstein, Luxenburg ... older than many states, but there is no power. Although the Vatican has Swiss with halberds - menacing!
                1. -3
                  15 January 2019 14: 20
                  Quote: forty-eighth
                  Weakest in history?

                  Has the Vatican ever had power? belay And who set the kings on the thrones, who issued the bulls? Which of us is weak in history?
                  And Liechtenstein, Luxenburg ... remember San Marino and Monaco ... Singapore again ... Do you know the word: "rudiments"?
                  Is your fate Liechtenstein and Luxenburg? So then what are you doing in our Country? No money to leave? And you can’t ask for asylum anymore ... Well then, I sympathize with you ... Fasten yourself ...
                  1. +2
                    15 January 2019 14: 25
                    Sympathize with your mother. Where have you been brought up with people like this? In a rooming house? I rude to you, insulted, hooked? You have an opinion - learn to bring it normally to others or to keep it with you. Truncated?
                    1. -2
                      15 January 2019 14: 54
                      Quote: forty-eighth
                      Sympathize with your mother. Where have you been brought up with people like this? In a rooming house? I rude to you, insulted, hooked? You have an opinion - learn to bring it normally to others or to keep it with you. Truncated?

                      Wow! That is, in fact, there is nothing to say Gopotovskih assaults? My dear, I didn’t drink with you on the brudershaft, so poke the drinking companions in the porch hi
              2. +3
                15 January 2019 15: 18
                Quote: AllXVahhaB
                And aren’t we talking about countries and peoples? Not?

                Oh, I guess I missed.
                However, here it is mentioned:
                Quote: forty-eighth
                forty-eighth (Dima) Today, 13:51 New
                Weakest in history? Yes, there they are: the Vatican, Liechtenstein, Luxenburg ... older than many states, but there is no power.

                Well, here they have - cunning and the ability to use the right of the sacred monarchical installation, geopolitical position, coupled with visionary figures, an accurate banking apparatus, and probably the international one. there are agreements on protection, kindred monarchical relations, that ...
                This is also in its own way, power. Vaughn, Singapore - has a well-established oil refining + geolocation by transp. control of the Strait of Malacca + actively light industry, electronics, favorable tax conditions for doing business. In most cases, this all depended on far-sighted brains, the industriousness of the population, and, of course, on geolocation.
                1. 0
                  15 January 2019 15: 33
                  Quote: Lycan
                  Vaughn, Singapore - has a well-established oil refining + geolocation by transp. control of the Strait of Malacca + actively light industry, electronics, favorable tax conditions for doing business. In most cases, this all depended on far-sighted brains, the industriousness of the population, and, of course, on geolocation.

                  It all depended on the mentality, the ability to rotate between different centers of power: today the British, tomorrow the Japanese, now the Chinese ... they need someone to fall for, prostitutes also have hard work and far-sighted brains, as you say wink I hope you do not want such a future for our country?
                  I mean about the Players: here either pan or propane wassat
                  1. 0
                    15 January 2019 19: 16
                    The players ... maybe so .. However, the player also has an asset - territory. If you don’t respect, you don’t get the placement of intelligence assets. If you conquer, there is a conflict in the UN. In general - some at least minimal respect for a potential partner (in view of his assets - location, resources, NATO / EU membership, labor population (ready for migration), burial areas for any "byaki" in exchange for green cut paper for the elite) still won't hurt.
          2. +1
            19 January 2019 22: 56
            Weak officials. Because they are mostly corrupt. The Italians realized that these Pinocchio are ready to sell their mother’s freebie for a trip to Italy, and not just a small homeland. And so they felt like masters in Rossosh. https://youtu.be/QMSNmLws0UY
        2. 0
          19 January 2019 16: 10
          Vultures, the whole west is like that. They have such a mentality, then they wonder, "What about us?"
      2. +8
        15 January 2019 10: 52
        Who would argue that relations with Italy should and can be good. The point is that you cannot allow the revanchist scum to establish themselves in our country with their monuments, and in Rossosh, also with the illegal grave of an unknown fascist. Why should we let them drag the bones of their "heroes" from the field cemetery to the city center, while in many European cities the remains of our liberators are carried from city centers to cemeteries. Do you feel the difference? Remains of fascists in the center of Russian cities, and the remains of Russian liberators from wartime graves in city centers to the outskirts. And you need to be friends, but without falsehood and betrayal.
      3. +3
        15 January 2019 16: 45
        For Greenwood. Besides all the good things that happened, there was the battleship Novorossiysk, which was blown up in Sevastopol. Some argue that it is the ITALIAN frogmen of his ...
        1. 0
          20 January 2019 11: 27
          Quote: internatio
          In addition to all the good things that happened, there was also the battleship Novorossiysk, which was blown up in Sevastopol. Some argue that it is the ITALIAN frogmen of his ...

          Do not forget that it was originally "Giulio Cesare", so at least there is some logic here ...
    3. +15
      15 January 2019 10: 45
      The point is not that all or not all were completely fascists. Even if not all, then there should be no monuments to them, and even in the center of the former occupied city, it MUST NOT. It really doesn’t reach, you are tolerant of our patience,
      1. +2
        19 January 2019 16: 13
        It is primarily a corrupt local government. On the other hand
        , if the official Kremlin calls enemies and colleagues, then what remains to be done?
      2. 0
        20 January 2019 11: 44
        Quote: Nikolai Alexandrovich Savchenko
        Even if not all, then there should be no monuments to them, and even in the center of the former occupied city, it MUST NOT. It really doesn’t reach, you are tolerant of our patience,

  3. +12
    15 January 2019 06: 00
    if you look realistically, abstracting from the stupid screams of the Urya-patriots “yes, we will repeat the 45th to you”, “break through, men!” and other husks, it will become clear and understandable that nothing good is expected in this regard. We will not break through and repeat nothing

    AND...
    The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...


    How does it fit together? No way. There is no "huge country" There is every man for himself, and the State is to blame for this.
    1. +4
      15 January 2019 06: 08
      But the state is not an abstract concept, the state is you and all the others.
      1. +9
        15 January 2019 06: 13
        Quote: Pessimist22
        But the state is not an abstract concept, the state is you and all the others.

        No, the State is a mechanism of governance and coercion. I do not belong to this)
        1. +16
          15 January 2019 06: 18
          And it should ... the state is a mechanism of help and justice ... where are we going downhill. what
          In the State Duma, one comrade or a group of comrade deputies introduced a law punishing those who scold the current government with unprintable words ... they didn’t take into account how many more prisons and cells they would have to build in addition ... consider half of the country would have to be planted according to their law ... the chosen ones of the people survived what is called up to the pen.
          1. +8
            15 January 2019 06: 26
            Quote: The same Lech
            And it should ... the state is a mechanism of help and justice ... where are we going downhill. what
            In the State Duma, one comrade or a group of comrade deputies introduced a law punishing those who scold the current government with unprintable words ... they didn’t take into account how many more prisons and cells they would have to build in addition ... consider half of the country would have to be planted according to their law ... the chosen ones of the people survived what is called up to the pen.

            What can I say? "What we have we do not keep, having lost we crying"
          2. +14
            15 January 2019 09: 43
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            And it should ... the state is a mechanism of assistance and justice

            "The mechanism of assistance and justice" is characteristic of the state, where the ruling class is the proletariat. In a bourgeois state, such a mechanism is not constructively provided for. If where they throw the bourgeoisie to the poor, it is only so that they themselves are not taken to the pitchfork.

            As an example of "help". Literally in December, an acquaintance of mine accidentally found out that he, as a disabled person, has the right to make home repairs every three years at the state expense in the amount of 50 thousand rubles. Disabled since 1992. And not one (censorship) ever gave him a hint about this, despite the fact that he regularly visits the social security. He asked around from his acquaintances, the same unfortunate disabled people - no one in a dream or in spirit about such a nishtyak.

            Mechanism...
      2. +17
        15 January 2019 06: 48
        Quote: Pessimist22
        But the state is not an abstract concept, the state is you and all the others.

        I used to think so too, that the state is all of us, until I found out that not all.

        The state is a machine for suppressing one class by another. So it was, it is, and it will be so as long as classes exist. When you understand this, there are fewer questions about why at one time or another, the era was as it was and not otherwise.
      3. +12
        15 January 2019 07: 09
        You are mistaken, you, me, family, friends and everyone else is the homeland, and our state is Chubais, Gref, bureaucrats plundering the budget, Gazprom supporting traitors with money from echo pugs, constantly decreasing salaries and rising prices.
      4. +3
        15 January 2019 14: 02
        Quote: Pessimist22
        the state is you and all the rest.

        Where is your employer, modestly call your OWNER? Are you lucky to get a municipal employee? And, like, you don’t have a master? But you don’t forget to demonstrate the selfless love for the bosses to the owner? Keep it up! We have a socio-economic formation from a series of exploitative ... Smarter everything is furnished, corvee has been canceled, gladiatorial fights are not encouraged. But you have to love the owner, if the ordinary citizen does not understand such a simple thing, he is starved. For example. Or they deprive the status of a municipal employee ... And the priest informs you that Pride is a mortal sin! Humble yourself, proud man! You look, and feed ...
    2. +3
      15 January 2019 09: 00
      Quote: freddyk
      How does it fit together? No way. There is no "huge country" There is every man for himself, and the State is to blame for this.

      Unfortunately, we are all to blame.
    3. +13
      15 January 2019 10: 06
      There is no "huge country" There is every man for himself, and the State is to blame for this.

      There is no state in the country since the beginning of the 90s, the country is ruled by organized crime groups. And each of us who in the 90s betrayed his country. I am personally ashamed of myself for being so easily led into perestroika lies.
  4. +9
    15 January 2019 06: 02
    Hmm, as far as I know, modern European nationalist parties tend to speak very warmly about Russia, for which they are periodically criticized by the current authorities, saying that the Kremlin sponsors them. They are trying to distance themselves from Hitler, the Third Reich and the approval of their activities. Moreover, none of the major nationalist parties supported the Ukrainian right-wing sector and other lawless people in 2014.
    1. +9
      15 January 2019 07: 02
      Let's separate the food from the flies. Revanchism in Europe is not supported by us, but by our officials, because the bureaucracy is immortal, it will survive under any power up to the occupation ... Once upon a time on NTV, a fugitive deputy from the LDPR, Alexei Mitrofanov, said: you think this people took power in the 92nd? No, it's us officials who have taken power! Not the tsar ruled RI, not Stalin --- Union, we! And while Putin equidistant the oligarchs, the bureaucracy, which seemed to be in the service of the oligarchs, grew stronger with a quiet glanders and now, having strengthened itself sufficiently, it begins to raise its head as a dirty, anti-people political force. With the weakening of pressure from Putin, they are able to take power. And if this happens, we will see not only the neglected burial places of our Warriors, the well-groomed cemeteries of Hungarian and other fascists, but also the monuments to Hitler.
  5. +13
    15 January 2019 06: 25
    Their "nationalists" in the elite have long been eliminated. Some people responded to the author's call "get up, Russian people" in 2014. Now they are killed, in jail, intimidated ... The country is Gazprom.
    It's late, Roman, to beat the bells ...
    1. +11
      15 January 2019 08: 50
      Quote: samarin1969
      Their "nationalists" in the elite have long been eliminated. Some people responded to the author's call "get up, Russian people" in 2014. Now they are killed, in jail, intimidated ... The country is Gazprom.
      It's late, Roman, to beat the bells ...

      No, you can’t give up. There is still an opportunity.
    2. +3
      15 January 2019 10: 17
      This is so, but at the top, and among the people there are many leaders who still lack agreement. We must help them with this, it is not too late, but time is running out. It's time for the people to be determined. There was a presidential candidate Pavel Grudinin and his team, did not support, now many curse themselves for this.
      But this team did not give up and we need to be with them together with all the patriots of Russia. NPSR website https://pdsnpsr.ru/
      ,
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 23: 37
        Quote: NordUral
        It is, but above,

        And, as below ... fellow
        Quote: NordUral
        NPSR website

        And so, in between cases, to squeeze an advertisement. Yes Oh, these current non-communists are the same hucksters, only bashfully covered with a red flag ... However, there is speculation.
    3. 0
      15 January 2019 12: 41
      Quote: samarin1969
      Their "nationalists" in the elite have long been eliminated. Some people responded to the author's call "get up, Russian people" in 2014. Now they are killed, in jail, intimidated.
      Surnames
      Quote: samarin1969
      Its "nationalists" in the elite
      -can I find out?Slaughtered? Prisoners?
      The Bolsheviks know - when the king sat in hard labor / in exile
      White I know - under Stalin they got their LEGAL bullet
      Both of them for their beliefs / idea ...
      Rђ RІRѕS, current rooting for the people - real Sidelts (so that at least like Khodor 10 years have served) I don’t know something ...
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 16: 21
        Their "nationalists", from the power elite, really ended many decades ago. "Present" did not notice in the history of 70 years.
  6. +4
    15 January 2019 06: 32
    they all become good only when they get tough
  7. +14
    15 January 2019 07: 03
    The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...
    ... "Pointing" will rise ... Here again, on the example of your town ... We do not have many monuments ... but there are memorable places ... Mostly Soviet times ... There were memorial plaques, they say here was the headquarters of the North Caucasian Front, Lenin's comrade-in-arms lived here, the Congress of Soldiers and Workers' Deputies took place here, which proclaimed Soviet power in the city ... etc. During the period when Medvedev was president, the idea was thrown to the masses about "de-Stalinization" .. took off .. time passed when a check came from the regional center and asked .. what is wrong with your "memory" .. really there is nothing .. there is, but soviet .. but what happened before that, we just do not remember , we ourselves are not local .. It followed a terrible restoration ... Restored .. Moreover .. a feverish restoration of memory began ... Since the municipal lands, the city was left with a gulkin's nose .. they began to put where there is a place .. We created an alley of memory , busts to the best people of the area, Heroes of the Soviet Union, Socialist Labor ... the restraints were installed ... And all this in a narrow space, between two shopping centers under construction .. I am a little familiar with the director of our museum, once asked if he and his battalion were going to somehow honor the memory of Ts. Kunnikov in the area heroically defended the Taman Peninsula, received an answer, but who it is .. I do not know .. I did not continue the conversation further .. Meaning ..
    1. +3
      15 January 2019 23: 09
      Quote: parusnik
      . "Pointer" will rise ..

      Will it? Since 2007, a serious trap has been set up - the agreement "On the status of forces" (signed by GDP), according to which NATO troops have the right, in case of turmoil in Russia, for example, nationalization of enterprises, to land with us to protect the rights of owners.
  8. +9
    15 January 2019 07: 06
    to the glory of their slain heroes
    Good comparison. Here are just these knocked down and partially unbroken "heroes" today in some countries are raised on the shield. Full revisionism following the results of 2 MV. And the "democratic" society, whose countries were mostly accomplices of the fascists, modestly lowers its eyes and pretends that nothing terrible is happening.
  9. +12
    15 January 2019 07: 17
    Grandmother said that the Magyars atrocities worse than the SS. Better Magyars were Bandera after the war.
    1. +11
      15 January 2019 07: 20
      About the Croatian ustashi forgotten. Serbs still remember their atrocities.
      1. +4
        15 January 2019 07: 27
        Grandmother and family lived near Vinnitsa, USSR. Ustashi were there, no hz
      2. +10
        15 January 2019 12: 09
        Quote: Greenwood
        About the Croatian ustashi forgotten. Serbs still remember their atrocities.

        The Khrvatski Ustashi went to Stalingrad, they were atrocities near the Rostov region, and the Magyars from the Voronezh region. "Greda smrti" ovo near Taganrog - knowledge of knowledge. The code of us was removed from the concentration of the logoorima 800 srba, the chak and dechiјi logor јe bio edin from Europpe.
      3. +10
        15 January 2019 12: 11
        Quote: Greenwood
        About the Croatian ustashi forgotten. Serbs still remember their atrocities.

        Mi smo cursed them.
        1. +2
          16 January 2019 14: 55
          [Quote] Mi smo cursed them. [/ Quote]
          May their descendants be damned to the 13th generation! They can’t even be called a beast, so as not to offend the animals. They even invented a special knife called the cutter, with special emphasis on the wrist, otherwise the hand got tired of cutting the throat. There is evidence that one ustash could cut up to 500 people.
  10. +10
    15 January 2019 07: 21
    Well, "Yaroslavna's cry" is straightforward and the conclusion is curious: the Hungarians are to blame for the fact that our graves are worse than Hungarian ones, even in Russia! And do it yourself? Once, like we survive, not before ... And the Hungarians are all straight in oil for a drive ...
    Today, people are free to move abroad, go for it. My grandfather was buried in Braniewo (Poland), a couple of kilometers from the border with the Kaliningrad region, a visa-free regime, everything is fine there - people go and equip the graves of their ancestors!
    Instead of lamenting and spreading the neglected graves of our soldiers in Divnogorsk, take a shovel and fix it. Or not by rank? Not a lordly business? Is your pen tool? So do not clap, caring for the graves of ancestors is natural for a normal person, no matter who fought against whom. It is not necessary to declare all the people together as war criminals! I don’t remember that in the Nyurberg trial even the entire Wehrmacht, en masse, was recognized as war criminals!
    And the graves of Hungarians from Soviet times stand, then they treated this correctly, without your pathos. In Krasnouralsk, we have a mass grave of captured Hungarians in good condition, without any tourists from Europe. And it is right!
    1. +2
      15 January 2019 23: 56
      good hi Yes, to fight with other people's graves - a great mind (as well as strength) is not required. But, as, suddenly, it suddenly turned out, it is very difficult (judging by the article - it is almost impossible) to equip the graves of OWN. And, no, stop ... Well, at the end there is an approximate algorithm of actions, simple to dope:
      The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...
      Although, it’s also somehow vague: either it’s time to get up, or it seems ... Well, yes, it’s understandable, a-ta-tashenki can be for direct appeal. Oh, trouble-trouble ...
  11. +5
    15 January 2019 07: 34
    As long as Russia is strong and united, all this trash will be somewhere in the region of its outskirts. But our government is doing everything possible for a social explosion. Unfortunately.
  12. +8
    15 January 2019 08: 13
    The most offensive, they "raise their heads", they lower us. “They” - the former allies of the anti-Hitler coalition, who vying with each other argue about their decisive contribution to the victory, and the “Axis” countries that geolorize their ancestors. And our side, which chews snot and silently accepts spitting in its direction. And the most annoying thing is that we are starting to forget the story, and some say we don’t need this story. I talked with a friend, so he does say that we don’t need the May 9 parades, why spend it on them. And there are more and more of them.
    1. -3
      15 January 2019 09: 27
      Quote: Cycle Boss
      The most offensive, they "raise their heads", they lower us.

      Not all:
  13. +7
    15 January 2019 08: 43
    Here, many laugh when an article is published about the lies of world history, they say fools, conspiracy theory .... oh well .... the last veteran has not gone to eternal rest, and the history of the Second World War is already being rewritten. So, excuse me, but how many times have events of 100,200,300t and more years ago been distorted.
    1. -4
      15 January 2019 09: 57
      History as a science does not exist at all. There is a genre of historical fiction reflected in history textbooks. The whole real story is in the archives under the heading 'top secret' and access to it is prohibited.
  14. -5
    15 January 2019 08: 53
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    The era of the bipolar world and global ideologies is gone along with the Soviet Union.

    The era of the bipolar World has not gone anywhere. The confrontation between the Western understanding of the life order of the World and the Russian, which began with the so-called "Mongol-Tatar yoke" - continues to this day.

    In the world there are three formed civilizations - Western, Eastern and Russian (the civilization of Islam is in the formative stage, which the West is actively opposing), each of which carries out its own concept of living arrangement. Only these civilizations can pursue their independent global politics. All other countries are forced to adapt to them.
    1. +13
      15 January 2019 09: 46
      Here, on the occasion I remembered. Sometimes I watch the news. Not so long ago, a plot passed on Ren: somewhere in the Volga region, an old veteran decided to erect a monument to a Tatar friend who died at the front. He sang on the streets, raised money, erected a wonderful monument, relatives came from Tatarstan. The administration of the village screamed: Niza! To demolish! TV interfered. And then it turned out that the bureaucrats had every opportunity to decorate the monument on the fact of its presence, to show respect for the dead and the living. But respect for people, apparently, is not included in the list of bureaucratic services.
      1. -3
        15 January 2019 09: 58
        Quote: depressant
        The administration of the village screamed: Niza! To demolish!

        And didn’t the villagers choose this administration from their own neighbors?
  15. +6
    15 January 2019 09: 34
    Unfortunately, the author is right ... fascism is everywhere, human memory is short ... the countries of the former socialist camp were allies of Germany, not nominally ... they all lost together with Germany, this is German realm ... this is the German zone of influence, unfortunately Russia also a German zone of influence ... and the authorities will not be able to do anything about it, the fire is burned out by the oncoming fire ..., But the authorities suppress any national ideas ... even ideas of independence ... we were simply surrendered or merged
    1. -1
      15 January 2019 12: 59
      wooja, you know, I also thought about this a lot ... Well, 300 years of rule, in fact, of the German Romanov dynasty! There is practically no Russian blood left. The people of Empress Alix considered a German spy! I have a suspicion that in the First World War and the Second the Germans flooded Russia with their own, sincerely believing our country as their undeclared colony. How many more and what means will be needed to dissuade them ?!
      1. +2
        15 January 2019 13: 12
        such a turn is quite possible, history is an unpredictable subject, but I’m afraid that I won’t be able to convince anyone ... and there’s no time to convince, but the funny thing is that Stalin was seriously afraid of the German demands for historical German lands in the east ..., archaeologists have dug up ... however
    2. +1
      16 January 2019 00: 06
      And "in each line - only dots ..." (apparently, ellipses mean spasms Yes ) And here is the quintessence:
      Quote: wooja
      we just surrendered or merged

      Ashes, more ashes! fellow
      1. 0
        16 January 2019 00: 10
        you can say so, but more for emotionality, but I will take note.
  16. +5
    15 January 2019 09: 51
    If you think with your head, then on each axis there is its own Entente. You must be able to find allies.
  17. +7
    15 January 2019 09: 54
    fascism around raises his head


    Fascism is a political movement that arose in the capitalist countries during the general crisis of capitalism and expresses the interests of the most reactionary and aggressive forces of the imperialist bourgeoisie. F. in power is the terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary forces of monopoly capital, carried out with the aim of preserving the capitalist system. The most important distinguishing features of F. v are the use of extreme forms of violence to suppress the working class and all working people, militant anti-communism, chauvinism, racism, the widespread use of state-monopoly methods of regulating the economy, maximum control over all manifestations of the public and personal life of citizens, ramified connections with quite significant by a part of the population that is not related to the ruling classes, the ability, through nationalist and social demagogy, to mobilize and politically activate it in the interests of the exploiting system (the mass base of France is mostly the middle layers of capitalist society)

    Maybe you should break away from the "around" and take a closer look at what's inside?
  18. +3
    15 January 2019 09: 56
    In order not to repeat the invasion, we must remember who is worth what, who is good to us, who came with evil and do not have to sacrifice historical truth, even for the sake of momentary profit, as was the case with the CMEA countries and even for the sake of sowing. stream 2 do not forgive the Germans for their crimes. They are constantly like kittens to poke into their crimes.
  19. +12
    15 January 2019 10: 00
    What are you unhappy about. Judging by the frequency of mentioning, the only enemy of Russia is Lukashenko. Another enemy Lenin in the Mausoleum must be hidden on Victory Day. And the holiest person for Russia is the Lgunitsyn monument, the police protect him.
    And the Hungarians and Italians are partners, not just the villain Stalin who destroyed the partners.
    We live at such a time
  20. +8
    15 January 2019 10: 23
    Jamal sang about the sufferings of the Tatars at Eurovision, why don’t we sing, though not Buzova, this one will just vulgarize everything. A good singer with a good voice with the text where they say about 27 million about all Hitler’s assistants, about 27 of them being mostly civilians, about concentration camps about slave labor .... There’s not even a place here, just to let it sing. Will only our mincult take a chance?
    1. +2
      15 January 2019 12: 42
      Poems, whoever soulful will write about it, so that everyone has a lump in their throats ..? And tears flowed from their eyes .. with themselves ... poets were transferred .. the lyrics remained ...
  21. +7
    15 January 2019 10: 40
    There is no sense in continuing to wave a saber almost a century after the fight - it would be much more useful to engage in normalizing the burial places of Russian soldiers and perpetuating their memory, otherwise after a hundred years you will forget your own, spitting on strangers.
  22. +14
    15 January 2019 10: 42
    But the graves of our fighters. More precisely, what is left of them. Feel, as they say, the difference.
    Well, duck, it's not the ostentatious processions of the Immortal Regiment to arrange.
    1. 0
      15 January 2019 20: 12
      Quote: Prometey
      Well duck it's not the ostentatious processions of the "Immortal Regiment" to arrange

      immortal regiment is a good event
      1. +2
        15 January 2019 22: 47
        Quote: aybolyt678
        immortal regiment is a good event

        An “Immortal Regiment” will be good when it’s more than one day a year, but all 365. It’s proud that the fathers and grandfathers protected and preserved correctly, but how to explain to the veterans our connivance in the liquidation of 78 thousand enterprises created by them, put in foreign jurisdiction largest factories? The fact that someone has established an order when the grandchildren of the victors who poured blood on the land are forced to buy this land for hundreds of thousands? How much do we realize our shame - after all, we, the descendants of the winners, did not save their achievements and essentially became motes? It has already been calculated — material losses from “perestroika” exceed losses from the Second World War. How to calculate the loss of moral, civilizational, cultural, demographic? Some - "Everything for victory." Others - "Row for yourself, I want everything, here and now." What will make you come to your senses and come to your senses?
  23. -1
    15 January 2019 11: 59
    Well, according to the logic of the author, we should also forbid to sell gas to these countries, this is the money of the former occupiers. And why should the whole country get up again, because from each iron it is heard that we have one of the best armies in the world, the Russian Guard, the police and a bunch of all kinds of special services, so let them deal with these issues. The author apparently has not traveled to Russia for a long time. The people are so driven into poverty that no one will get up for all sorts of Rothenbergs and others.
  24. +6
    15 January 2019 12: 31
    The indignation of Roman is understandable, only if you look at the problem more broadly ....
    for example, consider the principles for which the Vlasovites listed in the Prague manifesto fought
    The Committee puts the following main principles at the basis of the new statehood of the peoples of Russia:



    Equality of all peoples of Russia and their valid right to national development, self-determination and state independence.

    The approval of the national labor system, in which all the interests of the state are subordinated to the tasks of raising the welfare and development of the nation.

    Preservation of peace and the establishment of friendly relations with all countries and the comprehensive development of international cooperation.

    Extensive government activities to strengthen family and marriage. Actual equality of women.

    Elimination of forced labor and providing workers with a valid right to free labor, creating their material well-being, establishing payment for all types of labor in amounts that ensure a cultural standard of living.

    Liquidation of collective farms, free transfer of land to the private property of peasants. Freedom of forms of labor land use. Free use of the products of their own labor, the abolition of forced deliveries and the destruction of debt obligations to the Soviet government.

    Establishment of inviolable private labor property. Restoring trade, crafts, handicrafts and providing private initiative with the right and opportunity to participate in the economic life of the country.

    Providing the intelligentsia with the opportunity to freely create for the benefit of their people.

    Ensuring social justice and protecting workers from all exploitation, regardless of their origin and past activities.

    An introduction for all, without exception, a valid right to free education, medical care, leisure, and old age.

    Destruction of the regime of terror and violence. Elimination of forced relocations and mass exiles. The introduction of real freedom of religion, conscience, speech, assembly, press. Guarantee of the inviolability of the person, property and home. Equality of all before the law, independence and publicity of the court.

    The liberation of political prisoners of Bolshevism and the return to their homeland from prisons and camps of all those who were repressed for the struggle against Bolshevism. There is no revenge and persecution for those who stop the struggle for Stalin and Bolshevism, regardless of whether he led it out of conviction or forcibly.

    The restoration of the public heritage destroyed during the war - cities, villages, factories and factories at the expense of the state.

    State support of war invalids and their families.

    and add to them
    The Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia aims at:


    a) The overthrow of the Stalinist tyranny, the liberation of the peoples of Russia from the Bolshevik system and the return to the peoples of Russia of the rights they won in the popular revolution of 1917;
    b) Ending the war and concluding an honorable peace with Germany;
    c) Creating a new free people's statehood without Bolsheviks and exploiters.

    http://www.mochola.org/russiaabroad/vlas_manifesto.htm

    That leads to the obvious conclusion that now in Russia it’s exactly what the Vlasovites fought for, in any case, most of these principles are declared as a goal at the state level. True, the exploiters have still not managed with the exploiters.
    And then the logical question is, if almost everything has been achieved in the country, what have they fought for, then when will they begin to erect monuments to them? hi
    1. +1
      15 January 2019 12: 48
      Not evening, yet .. Grains were sown, and the harvest will be .... There are sprouts, Kolya from Urengoy ..
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      2. +5
        15 January 2019 13: 06
        the problem is not only in Kole, the situation itself is ambiguous.
        they built the very capitalism that the Vlasovites wanted, and the heroes in the country are those with whom the Vlasovites fought.
        it turns out, as in that joke about what you need to either remove the cross or put on your underpants.
        and this ambiguity will always come out in some form in some form, including in situations about which Roman writes.
    2. 0
      15 January 2019 13: 09
      Avior, the declaration impressively paved the way to hell for the Vlasovites. Given the killed by them our soldiers and officers.
      1. +1
        15 January 2019 13: 14
        to hell, yes.
        just read these 14 points and look around, and you will understand why people don’t know about the existence of this declaration in Russia, and they don’t talk about it on TV.
        1. 0
          15 January 2019 14: 33
          You know, you can write any declaration, and then, taking power, atrocities. However, what to talk about is the past. The general didn’t get to power. One can only guess how he would have shown himself. War is sad.
          1. 0
            15 January 2019 16: 35
            It is impossible to say, there is no reason, but to chat about it is easy, who will forbid.
            only with your approach, you need to demolish half of the monuments - you never know what these people would have done if they had not died.
            only now exactly what is written in the memorandum is a reality.
    3. +1
      15 January 2019 22: 04
      Quote: Avior

      That leads to the obvious conclusion that now in Russia it’s exactly what the Vlasovites fought for, in any case, most of these principles are declared as a goal at the state level.
      So the flag is the same.
      1. 0
        16 January 2019 01: 05
        and the flag too.
        but a flag is a form.
        but there are 14 points, the essence.
  25. -1
    15 January 2019 12: 34
    The governments of Italy and Hungary are pro-Russian, the deputies travel to Crimea .. and here is such an affront
  26. +2
    15 January 2019 12: 38
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    time to get up again ...

    Only Malchish sees that one old grandfather a hundred years old came out of the gate. Grandfather wanted to raise a rifle, but he’s so old that he won’t pick it up. Grandfather wanted to fasten the saber, but he is so weak that he will not fasten it. Then the grandfather sat on the blockage, bowed his head and cried.
    Where are they, Milchishy?

    As where? belay Yes, then a whole "youth army" got "under the gun", even in our foreign embassies, the children of ambassadors, and secretaries (if anything) will show (on flash mobs) the adversaries "Kuz'kin's mother"! wassat lol
  27. 0
    15 January 2019 12: 44
    Quote: Tomic3
    Well, according to the logic of the author, we should also forbid to sell gas to these countries, this is the money of the former occupiers. And why should the whole country get up again, because from each iron it is heard that we have one of the best armies in the world, the Russian Guard, the police and a bunch of all kinds of special services, so let them deal with these issues. The author apparently has not traveled to Russia for a long time. The people are so driven into poverty that no one will get up for all sorts of Rothenbergs and others.

    There is some truth in your reasoning, only the author may have meant not "for the sake" of any ... and others, but on the contrary, "against" these all, and others .... Have you considered this option? hi
  28. +4
    15 January 2019 12: 55
    And who are we going to mobilize? Effective managers, bureaucrats and bureaucrats, etc. "elites" (cattle-breeding term), careerists and sycophants of all stripes, and maybe a countless reserve of a beau monde garbage dump, or maybe graduates and graduates of Yale, Oxford and other studies, where true "patriots are trained "not of our state, but in the first ranks of the defenders will go a reserve from the first-pristine state, which sucks all resources from the regions, incl. and human, and the deputies of the United Russia will rise to the attack, I deeply doubt something, but I have no doubt about it, and I am even sure, so that in a difficult situation all this pack will "rush" to save their dachas and accounts in California, etc. And what kind of industry and scientific potential will we mobilize if it does not belong to us, but a lot has been destroyed? Again illiterate youth and beggars, desperate to fight for their existence, veterans again into the trenches, so we already went through this in 1917, when whole divisions easily campaigned and went home or to the barricades, why did our boyars and new nobles decide that now the conditions will be different for this all have already been created? The trouble is that our "partners", unfortunately, are learning and will not stop until the "Slavic question" is finally "resolved", ie. the question is about our banal physical existence.
  29. +4
    15 January 2019 12: 55
    Quote: McAr
    Quote: Olgovich
    to thank criminals for atrocities in a foreign land.
    They gone crazy ...

    Citizen Olgovich, THEY are your ideological comrades-in-arms, you can say co-comrades. Why are you surprised?

    You hate the Soviets and the Hungarians hated the Soviets. You fired a commie and the Hungarians fired a commie. You are in favor of private ownership of land and means of production and Hungarians for private ownership of land and means of production.

    As they say - find ten differences.

    good good good hi
  30. +2
    15 January 2019 12: 56
    Quote from Uncle Lee
    Where are they, Milchishy?

    they chose "Pepsi-Cola"
  31. +2
    15 January 2019 13: 05
    Quote: savage1976
    You are mistaken, you, me, family, friends and everyone else is the homeland, and our state is Chubais, Gref, bureaucrats plundering the budget, Gazprom supporting traitors with money from echo pugs, constantly decreasing salaries and rising prices.

    Your list is incomplete .... hi
  32. +5
    15 January 2019 13: 10
    Quote: Tomic3
    The people are so driven into poverty that no one will get up for all sorts of Rothenbergs and others.

    The people of both 1812 and 1914, and even in 1941, did not stand up for the nobility, not for the tsar-father (although the positive image of the country's leader is very motivating and inspires confidence in the righteousness and future victory), stood up for the Russian land for their families, relatives and friends, not to a lesser extent, thanks to our great history and our ancestors, because of our pride and superiority, never once and not conquered by anyone. That is why, with the help of not our so-called. "elite" (a cattle-breeding term) is destroyed first of all history, education and upbringing, through all channels there is a substitution of concepts, distortion of facts and outright lies, that is, in other words, a full-scale ideological and psychological war of destruction. all this with their own hands, at their own expense, all according to the instructions and in accordance with the plan of the late Pole grandfather Brzezinski,
  33. +3
    15 January 2019 13: 37
    Here is another answer to Roman, well, to all those who love their homeland, and not power.
    1. +2
      15 January 2019 20: 06
      And this is the order that these Vlasovites from the cinema perform at the same time, these figures put a board of honor to Mannerheim in St. Petersburg where this former cavalry guard is involved in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Leningrad residents. What a lie about cuttings, about detachments and so on. By the way, about the rape of Germans and robbery for the behavior of our servicemen in Germany, the gentle man Stalin made another gentle man G.K. Zhukov’s implications for the political leaders and the osobist, who were responsible for this with their HEAD. Who does not know read the orders of G.K. Zhukova is impressive. Everything is done so that young people do not ask themselves why our ancestors fought SO before the LAST SOLDIER and the system that was in the USSR supported by the ABSOLUTE MOST OF THE PEOPLE. And Major Gavrilov in the party was restored by my Dad, the same front-line soldier, the scout, drank vodka with him and did not hold resentment against the Soviet regime.
  34. +3
    15 January 2019 13: 41
    For a long time it was necessary to raise this topic. We are beggars for the euro turns out to be sold.
  35. +3
    15 January 2019 13: 51
    When monuments decay, the country decays. And everything is dilapidated, sooner or later, WHAT ...?
    Correctly. Falling apart.
  36. +3
    15 January 2019 13: 54
    Who knows, maybe our revanchism will rise after Europe? I am sure he will find the colossal support.
  37. +1
    15 January 2019 14: 08
    Routes of worship of fascist punishers?
    In Russia there is a "Department of State Protection of Cultural Heritage", well, so here:
    If foreign citizens want to build something on such cemeteries of "heroes", they are obliged to deposit money into the account of the above-mentioned Department (to take care of the cemeteries of at least their victims) and have a copy of the check with them, the amount should be determined by the government, my opinion.
  38. -7
    15 January 2019 14: 24
    I didn’t hear that France fought on the side of Germany ...
    1. +2
      15 January 2019 21: 42
      I didn’t hear that France fought on the side of Germany ...
      It's a pity. 638 The French infantry regiment was stationed near Moscow in 1941.
    2. +1
      16 January 2019 00: 17
      Quote: Vanych
      I didn’t hear that France fought on the side of Germany ...

      Not only did the Fritzes set them up near Borodino in 1941 (we can say that they set them up - they rolled out the frog pads well there). So, after all, they ended up fighting for the Third Reich one of the last: the 33rd Waffen SS-Grenadier Division "Charlemagne" in March 1945 was defeated in Pomerania. The remnants in May 1945 were finished off by our troops, and the survivors surrendered to the mattresses.
      1. -1
        16 January 2019 01: 03
        and the Vlasovites ended the war in Prague. Well, you will not conclude from this that Russia fought on the side of Hitler?
  39. +1
    15 January 2019 14: 32
    A. Leonov
    Half of Russia is in ignorance, half of the world is in ignorance.
    Russia is in danger.
    To "Get up, the country is huge ..." you need a head, a leader, a commander.
    There were Minin with Pozharsky, which means that there will be no such.
    Was Stalin, then this will not happen.
    How much and what to expect?
    Three years, only three years left, for the Leader to come to the World and to us, to Russia.
    I hope.
  40. +3
    15 January 2019 15: 11
    Plow these burials and forget them.
    You need to remember your own, but no one has called these to us.
  41. +3
    15 January 2019 15: 19
    I heard that even in captivity, German soldiers despised the Hungarians (survivors) for the monstrous cruelty towards the occupied population.
    By the way, do you remember Hasek's attitude towards the Magyars in The Brave Soldier Schweik?
  42. +2
    15 January 2019 15: 26
    Vanych: "I have not heard that France fought on the side of Germany ..."
    ============
    I fought, built, assembled cars, weapons, etc., etc.
    Berlin, with special fierceness, was defended by the eSeS from France and Latvia.
  43. +5
    15 January 2019 15: 36
    "Why blame the mirror ..." ???
    The author does not notice that the Russian Federation - as a capitalist is not enough, itself falls into fascism, drawn into? This is obvious to any Bolshevik Marxist! And who is the Kremlin friends with in the EU ??? Ahhh? With the Magyars; with Italians; with the Austrians - all these from illiquid, not convicted fascists! Remember the explosion in Bologna, in Italy !!! it these the same fascists from "Gladio" !!! And they have the kremol in their sidekicks !!! And the whole world sees it! From this and antagonism in Europe to the Russian Federation !!! FROM THIS!

    Rot Front!
  44. +2
    15 January 2019 16: 26
    The country is huge, it seems you have to get up again ...

    Everything is right, Roman, everything is right, a good article, thanks for the next lesson to the young generation about what should not be forgotten! The taste of truth is bitter in her!
  45. +2
    15 January 2019 16: 43
    fascists are not only around, fascists are already inside, they are already in power. It’s not for nothing that Putin opens monuments to Solzhenitsyn and rewards humpbacked Judas. Zhidovsky capitalism he is. I’m all thinking, it’s not scary for Putin to striptease at the monuments to the fallen Soviet soldiers, whoever suddenly gets up in the mouth with a butt ...
  46. +1
    15 January 2019 16: 44
    and other countries participating in the European team that attacked us in 1941.

    The coalition has been created again, but unlike that time, there is an opportunity and it is used to negotiate neutrality, if they do not want to be allies, an example is yesterday's negotiations (beginning) with Japan. And as everyone remembers, she, Japan, fought on the side of Hitler's Germany ... although the US satellites at any moment will spit on all the agreements with Modern Russia. But this is the business of our strategists. As Vysotsky said, "Big giraffe knows better"!
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  48. +1
    15 January 2019 17: 56
    And what do you, dear comrades, actually want? As they say, woe to the vanquished. And to those who fought for Soviet Power and those who sat on the couch and to whom they imposed without asking.
  49. +1
    15 January 2019 18: 54
    Forgot Lenin's covenant about the consequences of any weakening of our propaganda!
    Our ideology has degraded since the Khrushchev era.
    Not for nothing that among the leaders of the countries most hostile to Russia since 1991 there have been so many Communist Party and Komsyayih idiots-apostates.
    And now - there is no ideology at all ...
  50. +1
    15 January 2019 19: 26
    You need to start from the beginning. From their fascist oligarchs.
    1. +2
      16 January 2019 00: 27
      Quote: akula
      You need to start from the beginning

      Yes, from girls who burn flags and dance at memorials. From cattle utyrki, frying kebabs on an eternal fire, from pediculous plankton-youths, disgustedly turning up their noses from the Immortal Regiment: "Ugh, victoriousness ..." And you won't have to go far, because this mold is everywhere ... But as it turns out, it's easier throwing banal slogans, calling someone to something, yeah.
  51. +1
    15 January 2019 19: 27
    We need to take from the museum advertisements from the Second World War, which were printed by the predecessors of modern traitors - the burgomasters and policemen of those times. And then use the word SHOOTING and post it around the city and maybe people will remember.
  52. 0
    15 January 2019 20: 00
    In addition to the purely ideological side, there is a practical side. On the eve of the Second World War, whole detachments of various “patriotic groups”, essentially scouts and saboteurs, allegedly concerned about the burials and reburials of the remains of German soldiers from the period of the First World War, marched from the German side to the USSR. And this is for us at the beginning of the war very expensive it worked out.
  53. 0
    15 January 2019 21: 30
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    time to get up again ...

    Only Malchish sees that one old grandfather a hundred years old came out of the gate. Grandfather wanted to raise a rifle, but he’s so old that he won’t pick it up. Grandfather wanted to fasten the saber, but he is so weak that he will not fasten it. Then the grandfather sat on the blockage, bowed his head and cried.
    Where are they, Milchishy?

    No, according to demographic forecasts for 2025-2030. There will be fewer and fewer boys... And you won’t find even those kibalchiki during the day! :( We will degenerate soon, and Europeans will take our place!
  54. 0
    16 January 2019 00: 33
    Quote: Vanych
    I didn’t hear that France fought on the side of Germany ...

    Berlin was defended by the French SS division Charlemagne (Charlemagne), the Belgian SS divisions Langemark and Wallonia. On April 29, 1945, for the destruction of several Soviet tanks, the young Parisian from the SS division Charlemagne Unterscharführer Eugene Valot was awarded the Order of the Knight's Cross, becoming one of his last knights.
    On 1 May the French continued to fight on Leipzigerstrasse, around the Air Ministry and at Potsdamerplatz. The French SS men of Charlemagne became the last defenders of the Reichstag and the Reich Chancellery. During the day of fighting on April 28, out of a total of 108 Soviet tanks destroyed, the French "Charlemagne" destroyed 62. On the morning of May 2, following the announcement of the capitulation of the capital of the Third Reich, the last 30 "Charlemagne" fighters out of 300 who arrived in Berlin left the bunker of the Reich Chancellery, where, Apart from them, there was no one left alive. Along with the French, the Reichstag was defended by the Estonian SS. In addition, Lithuanians, Latvians, Spaniards and Hungarians took part in the defense of Berlin. These are the last days, but they have been fighting since the first day.
    1. +1
      16 January 2019 07: 16
      A significant fact. The confirming ideological basis is supranational.
  55. 0
    16 January 2019 09: 22
    In Rossoshi, the Italians stupidly bought local officials. Peskov is perplexed why people do not like this category of Russians and persecute them for careless words.
  56. +1
    16 January 2019 21: 07
    In theory, it was not necessary to allow the construction of all these fascist memorials, but now, opposite the entrance to these cemeteries, it is necessary to install a large memorial stele - so that they remember and write on it in large letters in different languages ​​- “They came here to enslave us, but found theirs.” death! Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword"
  57. +1
    17 January 2019 02: 41
    STORY. “More terrible than a German”: why Hungarians were not captured during the Great Patriotic War
    (Author: Nikolay Syromyatnikov)

    From an ethnic point of view, Soviet citizens had different attitudes towards the Nazi occupiers. Representatives of some nations, whose countries were conquered by Hitler and mobilized the population of military age to fight against the USSR, were not feared in the occupied Soviet territories, unless, of course, they were distinguished by cruelty towards the civilian population and captured Red Army soldiers.

    But the Magyar occupiers were fiercely hated in the warring Soviet Union.

    Because they regularly gave rise to such an attitude.

    “Occupation groups” of Hungarians in Ukraine Hungary became pro-fascist long before the attack on the Soviet Union. This country had been in close financial and political ties with Hitler’s Germany for several years before the fateful June 1941. However, formally Hungary was considered a state independent from the Nazis. And the air raid that hit one of the cities occupied by Hungarian troops in the first days of the Great Patriotic War formally served as the reason for Hungary’s declaration of war on the USSR. Although it has not yet been clarified whether Soviet planes bombed Slovak Greshov at that time.

    By the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, Hungary had three armies, a separate corps, its armed forces included infantry, motorized, ranger, cavalry and mountain rifle brigades, and its own aviation (more than 250 aircraft). In the very first months after Germany’s attack on the USSR, Hungary poured all its combat power into this war.

    Occupied Ukraine was the first to feel the activity of the Magyars. By the end of 1941, the Hungarian “occupation group”, in a zealous fight against the partisans, destroyed several such units. In particular, the formation commanded by General Orlenko. According to the Hungarians, they managed to kill about a thousand “bandits” at that time.

    The Magyars slaughtered, killed and took away

    “Hungarian lackeys,” as they were called in Soviet reports, committed atrocities everywhere. 1942, Voronezh region. After the liberation of many Voronezh villages, the Red Army saw the following picture: the corpses of captured soldiers and officers, mutilated and brutally tortured by the Magyars. They were stabbed with bayonets, stars were carved on their bodies... The Hungarians raped girls and women.

    A similar picture is described in reports from the Bryansk region (1942). Residents of villages who did not have time to hide (and they preferred to hide from the Magyars) were shot by Hungarian soldiers; violence against women was also par for the course for the invaders. The Hungarians robbed civilians and stole livestock. There is documentary evidence that the Magyars burned people alive on suspicion of involvement in the partisans. The victims of such Magyar atrocities numbered in the hundreds.

    In the summer of 1942, two Hungarian divisions, together with the Germans, as a result of the punitive operation “Songbird” (“Vogelsang”), killed over a thousand partisans in the Bryansk forests, and the occupiers evicted more than 10 thousand civilians from nearby villages. The names of the subsequent bloody “cleansing operations” in which the Hungarians participated were no less poetic - “Zigeunerbaron” (“Gypsy Baron”), spring-summer 1942, Bryansk and Kursk regions, “Nachbarhilfe” (“Neighbourly Help”) - summer of 1943, Bryansk... Only during the implementation of the “Gypsy Baron” did the Magyars destroy over 200 partisan camps, kill more than one and a half thousand people’s avengers and capture the same number.

    Disassembled until the 50s

    There were a great many war crimes committed by Hungarian units in the Great Patriotic War. A top secret government decree of the USSR, dated 1950, differentiated the process of repatriation of these citizens who were at that time in Soviet camps. Let us remember that five years have passed since the end of the war.

    At that time, there were more than 1200 Hungarians on the territory of the USSR (including 13 generals), who were officially clear of committing war crimes. But 355 Hungarians (including 9 generals) remained seated. In addition, over 150 Magyars who were at that time in Soviet camps, according to this resolution, were to be brought to criminal responsibility for their atrocities. Today I read on the social network My World
  58. 0
    17 January 2019 18: 50
    So it is understandable. Nowadays in our country anything can be done for money. So, you see, they will make you repent for the victory in 1945...

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