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Ukraine begins mass production of the Alder missile system

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Ukrainian Oboronprom begins mass production of the Alder missile system, fully developed in Ukraine. This was stated by the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak in an interview with the governmental newspaper Uryadovy Kuryer.


Ukraine begins mass production of the Alder missile system


According to him, in Ukraine begins mass production of the Alder missile system, completely created from Ukrainian components. The final tests of the complex were held in 2018 year and recognized as successful. In the same year, 2018 was planned to begin mass production of the complex, but plans for production were postponed for this year.

Earlier in Ukraine it was stated that Alder is a multiple rocket launcher system with an adjustable missile flight based on the Soviet MLRS Smerch. The stated range of the complex is 120 kilometers, while "each of the twelve 300-mm missiles in the launcher is aimed at a separate target and can be controlled in flight." The missiles of the complex can be equipped with various warheads. According to the developers, the new MLRS exceeds the tactical complex "Tochka-U" in accuracy.

The secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Turchinov said earlier that the new Ukrainian rocket complex Alder is “ten times more efficient than the Soviet and Russian MLRS” and supposedly “a long line of foreign customers has already lined up”.
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  1. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 11 January 2019 14: 38
    +11
    Well, now the whole world is in dust, and buyers have already lined up for "Alder". But this is just a modified (probably) Soviet-made Smerch MLRS. But what about the fight against everything Soviet and Russian ???
    1. viktor_ui
      viktor_ui 11 January 2019 14: 40
      +5
      Here is pastor turch first and will purchase drinks
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 11 January 2019 14: 46
        +4
        Quote: viktor_ui
        Here is pastor turch first and will purchase

        Why is the pastor, here Poltorak will buy (on paper), and the money will be quietly washed away. After all, money has already been allocated for "testing" and "production". Anyone needs to post them. He already has such "modernization" and "updates" in the army and The Navy held that any enemy should now tremble. Like the MOLOT mortar, they will inspire fear. belay
        1. Metallurg_2
          Metallurg_2 11 January 2019 19: 17
          +3
          Like the MOLOT mortar, it will inspire fear

          Moreover, first of all, on their own, and strangers are worried by definition.
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 11 January 2019 14: 46
      +6
      Quote: Alexey-74
      Well, now the whole world is in dust, and buyers have already lined up for "Alder". But this is just a modified (probably) MLRS "Smerch"

      It could even be.
      Perhaps this system will even, like the Popandopulo machine gun or, the modern Ukrainian mortar Hammer, fire at your own. But ... it must be understood that the MLRS of this caliber, even if not super-advanced, is very serious and, accordingly, in combat readiness in the Southern Military District, Western Military District, a sufficient number of modern long-range and high-precision weapons.
      1. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 11 January 2019 14: 52
        +5
        This is, of course, next to an article somewhere that the latest "Tornado-S" are sent to the Southern Military District
      2. svp67
        svp67 11 January 2019 15: 17
        +4
        hi
        Quote: Alekseev
        But ... it must be understood that the MLRS of this caliber, even if not super-advanced, is very serious and, accordingly, in combat readiness in the Southern Military District and Western Military District, a sufficient number of modern long-range and high-precision weapons.

        And also enough air defense equipment. Since these systems pose a threat to our airfields and other facilities in the Crimea.
    3. Warrior with machine gun
      Warrior with machine gun 11 January 2019 15: 36
      +4
      Yes, a clumsy decommunization is obtained, but apparently from this Alder the ammunition flies out with a roar of "glory of dill", and if the system works like a Hammer, then it is completely overwhelmed))
    4. StudentVK
      StudentVK 11 January 2019 18: 37
      +2
      The emphasis is not there) How could they do this with their pre-science? All sensible with brains either left for us or left for other wonderful countries) “Propaganda Sir” cit.))))))
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 11 January 2019 14: 39
    +6
    We know your "new" developments! For any, you modernize something Soviet! For your own, you have neither money nor mind! And in the photo tornado guides
    1. 210ox
      210ox 11 January 2019 14: 47
      +6
      Aha .. The multi-barreled large-caliber "Hammer" will help you.
  3. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 11 January 2019 14: 46
    +20
    the range of the complex is 120 kilometers, while "each of the twelve 300-mm missiles in the launcher is aimed at a separate target and can be controlled in flight."
    That is, if I do not confuse anything, they declare the creation of an actually OTR with a Tochka-U range in the dimensions of the Smerchevsky RS and, at the same time, be controlled. Moreover, all twelve missiles from the package can be aimed at individual targets and adjusted in flight. Vague doubts torment me.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 11 January 2019 14: 56
      +7
      Yes, there is not even doubt, but doubt ...))) A simple question: how is the reconnaissance of targets carried out and what is the method of guidance? 12 operators in virtual glasses are not sitting there and they combine a point with a target. We have Tornado-S at least declare "up to 8 targets" and "missile trajectories". That is, the same MLRS, only the affected area can be different.
    2. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 11 January 2019 15: 38
      +4
      do not be slow! these missiles also whisper in flight. There is really one condition - before starting a liter on the GOS. No other way! focus will not be brought.
    3. Kawado
      Kawado 11 January 2019 15: 43
      +5
      What do you? what doubts? The true truth!
      On the way there are still combat hang gliders capable of carrying strategic nuclear warheads over intercontinental distances. Probably with the possibility of going into outer space.
      P.S. News from Ukraine is always the purest positive)))
      1. kdakda
        kdakda 11 January 2019 16: 21
        +1
        The military salaries are several thousand hryvnias, the severed hands of those who steal in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, the return of Crimea, the collapse immediately after the construction of the bridge, but how could it be otherwise ... After all, Ukraine is a great space power.
    4. Commihunter
      Commihunter 11 January 2019 16: 24
      0
      China has MLRS systems with a range of 150km.
      Belarus also has Polonaise.

      I respect critically thinking people, if only on this site they would speak critically about everything, especially about tales of Mach 27, then you would not have a price: D
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 11 January 2019 16: 41
        +4
        Well, 27 MAXs at high altitudes - why not, it's just a little less than 9 km / s. Comparable to orbital speeds. They did not say that he was flying at this speed all the time. It entered orbit, then began to decline and there were 27 MAXs. Then naturally less, at least no, but the atmosphere is there and felt at such speeds.
        The most important message is that the ammunition: a) moves fast enough, with orbital speeds b) it maneuvers. That in total does not allow calculating its trajectory and knocking it down with ABM tools. And he flew there most of the time with 25 or with 17 MAXs no one should care.
        1. Commihunter
          Commihunter 11 January 2019 16: 56
          -6
          The Americans in 2010, the Boeing hypersonic missile reached a speed of 5 Mach
          In the Chinese, their DF-ZF, according to open source data, reaches speeds of Mach 10. And the RF has bang and 27 (25, 17 is not the essence) Makhov and of course "has no analogues" :)

          In general, bullshit is a disease of the whole CIS, and Ukraine and Russia and other countries, it began from clearly what time: D
          Do you remember why Eisenhower allowed U-2 flights over Soviet territory? Let me remind you: the Americans wanted to find out whether so much is really so much from the advice of strategic bombers (according to Soviet propaganda and from the side numbers, it turned out that the USSR already had about 400 units of "strategists", the amers at that time had only about 150 units). in 1955-1956, flights began over the territory of the USSR, and you know what happened? :) That the Union had 40 combat-ready M4 aircraft (strategist Myasishcheva), just cunning Russians repainted the side numbers of the aircraft for each new parade :)
          So that it doesn’t work out now :) After all, a lie works only until it is checked :)
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 11 January 2019 17: 45
            +1
            Why it doesn’t - it has in 2010 in the USA they tested the planning warhead HTV 2 speed 28 Mach - carrier rocket Minotaur 4
            1. Commihunter
              Commihunter 11 January 2019 18: 36
              -1
              "Both flights reached Mach 20 (high-hypersonic speed) and lost telemetry at 9 minutes of a planned 30-minute mission."

              Yes, you were right. It is worth admitting here - my mistake.
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 11 January 2019 17: 58
            +2
            Boeing hypersonic rocket reached speed in 5 Mach

            This rocket and Vanguard are completely different systems. If I am not mistaken, the Boeing flies in the stratosphere, and the Vanguard is higher.
            The Chinese have their DF-ZF according to data from open sources reaches speeds in 10 Mach

            This DF .. is still written with a pitchfork on the water. They can disperse and dispersed, China has ICBMs, attach a breeding stage is not a problem for them. This speed only means that the DF didn’t really put the stage into orbit.
            just cunning Russians

            And just as cunning Americans breed the whole world, so I am generally silent. Even if half of ours lied, still no one has built it.
    5. Turist1996
      Turist1996 11 January 2019 20: 03
      +1
      In addition to the famous phrase Lavrov even say nothing !!!
  4. Alexey Vasilievich I
    Alexey Vasilievich I 11 January 2019 14: 48
    +8
    Poroshenko's election campaign is in full swing laughing
  5. Wedmak
    Wedmak 11 January 2019 14: 50
    +8
    at the same time, "each of the twelve 300-mm missiles in the launcher is aimed at a separate target and can be controlled in flight"

    It is interesting to see how they direct each missile at each individual target and then also control it in flight. Doubtful conversion of MLRS with work on areas in the MLRS with work on individual goals.
    1. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 11 January 2019 14: 53
      +6
      So the main thing is to declare !!! drinks Happy New Year!
  6. Sayan
    Sayan 11 January 2019 14: 52
    +4
    Based on the Soviet tornado? But what about desovetization and decommunization, and residual goodbye?
  7. Prahlad
    Prahlad 11 January 2019 14: 54
    -1
    That would be to hit the factories with "calibers"!
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 January 2019 16: 00
      0
      Do not be like horses ...
  8. dayton701
    dayton701 11 January 2019 15: 06
    +6
    Ten times more efficient, a huge queue ... Get to know the country from the "modest" statements of its officials 3 times.
  9. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 11 January 2019 15: 13
    +6
    Turn ? That already cries are heard: "More!? Pieces in one hand do not give!" ?
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 January 2019 15: 59
      +2
      Will conquer the world market, the United States is the first buyer. lol
    2. Commihunter
      Commihunter 11 January 2019 16: 30
      -1
      No, we have been decommunized, all the charms of the USSR with bursts and shortages are a thing of the past, so you can take as much as you like. If money is available.

      And thanks for the quote, I already remembered my youth. Now you don’t hear such words anywhere else, young people don’t understand how it is at all.
  10. NF68
    NF68 11 January 2019 15: 28
    +2
    What can I say. Heroam sala!
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 January 2019 15: 35
      +7
      Quote: NF68
      0
      What can I say. Heroam sala!

      And what fat? Polish or German?
      In the first five months of 2018, the import of fat from Poland and Germany to Ukraine exceeded the export by 22 times, the report of the State Fiscal Service published on June 14 on the official website of the department said.
      Compared to the same period of 2017, the import of fat increased by 57,3% and amounted to 22,5 thousand tons, while Ukraine exported only one ton of the product.
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 January 2019 15: 58
        +2
        But certainly not Ukrainian, everyone ate it.
  11. Hypersound
    Hypersound 11 January 2019 15: 29
    +1
    A fake shit complex, however, like the entire modern "defense" of the territory-404
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 January 2019 16: 04
      +2
      Quote: Hypersound
      however, like all modern "defense" of the territory-404

      Such hatreds already cost us several aircraft, including the Tu-22M
      1. Hypersound
        Hypersound 11 January 2019 16: 09
        -4
        Not for us, but for our pale shadow, which was represented by our armed forces 11 years ago
        1. svp67
          svp67 11 January 2019 16: 11
          +1
          Quote: Hypersound
          Not for us, but for our pale shadow, which was represented by our armed forces 11 years ago

          Yeah ... we weren't there, because we were weak ... The position of the "hypersonic ostrich". But it was WE and our army, which also went through this in order to win
  12. Kawado
    Kawado 11 January 2019 15: 30
    +2
    Cool, and how much do you need plywood, drywall and scotch tape to modernize the old Soviet Tornadoes to the level of ultramodern Ukrainian Alder?)))
  13. evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 January 2019 15: 30
    +5
    If this fool as well as the mortar starts to work, then it will be the most epic badabum!
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 January 2019 15: 57
      +2
      Honestly, even sorry for the fighters who conduct the tests.
  14. cniza
    cniza 11 January 2019 15: 56
    +3
    The secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Turchinov said earlier that the new Ukrainian rocket complex Alder is “ten times more efficient than the Soviet and Russian MLRS” and supposedly “a long line of foreign customers has already lined up”.


    Something he "modest" about efficiency.
  15. Errr
    Errr 11 January 2019 16: 05
    +2
    "The Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Turchynov said earlier that the new Ukrainian missile system" Olkha "is" ten times more effective than Soviet and Russian MLRS "and allegedly behind him" a huge queue of foreign customers has already lined up. "
    Well, that's right!
    Not for the super-duper-"Hammer" now to line up ...
    This unfortunate preacher, apparently, is haunted by bright visions of a fatal miracle, which, well, simply cannot be, should not be, because now the Almighty Himself shone upon the nenka with a wonderful Lantern!
  16. Spiritual
    Spiritual 11 January 2019 16: 33
    +3
    and supposedly a huge queue of foreign customers has already lined up behind him.

    Well, everything is clear then .. I’m already tensed that they will begin to peck at the peace in the Donbass.! Money will be laundered clearly ..
  17. BAI
    BAI 11 January 2019 16: 41
    +2
    "Earlier in Ukraine, it was stated that Alder is a multiple launch rocket system with a corrected missile flight based on the Soviet MLRS Smerch. The declared range of the complex is 120 kilometers, while" each of the twelve 300-mm missiles in the launcher is aimed at a separate target and can be controlled in flight. "


    And in the next article, the Ministry of Defense strengthens the South-East Military District with the Tornado-S systems:

    "The article notes that the Tornado-S is the most powerful and long-range MLRS in the world. Each installation has 12 guides. The missile's flight range is up to 120 km. The developers promised to increase it to 200 km. The system was created to replace the Smerch MLRS. ...

    In addition to unguided shells, corrected ammunition has been created for the Tornado-S. The installation can simultaneously hit up to 8 targets due to the spreading of shells along the flight path. "


    As they say - find 10 differences. But why does Ukraine have all 12 separately aimed at the target, while we only have 8?
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 January 2019 16: 44
      +2
      Quote: BAI
      Just why in Ukraine all 12 are separately aimed at the target, and in our country only 8?

      Because ours are trying to reach a range of up to 200 km ... "weight reserve" went there
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 11 January 2019 18: 01
      +5
      Just why in Ukraine all 12 are separately aimed at the target, and in our country only 8?

      Because chatting is not tossing bags. We have up to 8, moreover, it is not said about individual goals, but rather about 8 areas of destruction. And the gloomy Ukrainian genius is already pointing every missile at the target - balabol.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 11 January 2019 18: 38
        +1
        Denis, how did you get 1.5 rockets? 12/8 = 1.5
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 11 January 2019 20: 03
          +1
          But how did you get 1.5 rockets?

          And who said that I will share them? There’s one more, there’s one less ... wink
          Again ... before 8, this is not necessarily just 8. In general, I doubt that there will ever be more 3 targets for one salvo.
  18. APASUS
    APASUS 11 January 2019 18: 46
    +1
    In fact, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine should confirm the launch of such a missile in series by a firm purchase contract. And something has not been heard about such a super contract, because the purchase amount should be really large, the products are not the cheapest
  19. LeonidL
    LeonidL 11 January 2019 19: 21
    +3
    In Absurdistan, a mass illness of believing in one’s spells, screams, dreams, like - I’ll draw a house and start living there ... Most likely this is another attack.
  20. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 11 January 2019 19: 33
    +2
    Are you standing Yes .. Then I am yours, if anyone asks, tell me that I am already standing in line for you
  21. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 11 January 2019 20: 19
    +1
    Yeah, they’ve been building the ammunition plant for the fifth year, but have not yet begun.
  22. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 11 January 2019 20: 30
    +4
    God bless them from the use of this Alder ...
    And it will come out like a mortar. crying
  23. bone1
    bone1 11 January 2019 21: 29
    +2
    Another narcotic fantasy: "ten times more effective than Soviet and Russian MLRS" - why not a thousand? laughing ; "a huge queue of foreign customers has already lined up behind him" - is this huge? and from where? -the queue is calmly standing, without massacre and shouts "you were not standing here"? laughing ; "fully developed in Ukraine" -on the modern Outskirts can only develop a new way to beg for money and shit on Russia laughing
    1. Mimoprohodil
      Mimoprohodil 11 January 2019 21: 50
      0
      World practice
      The effectiveness of the 122-mm multiple launch rocket system "Tornado-G" is 15 times higher than the effectiveness of the famous Grad system, Nikolai Makarovets, general director of the Tula NPO Splav, told RIA Novosti.
      1. bone1
        bone1 11 January 2019 21: 52
        0
        And? -Well, a man froze stupidity
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  25. gurzuf
    gurzuf 12 January 2019 19: 33
    0
    President Kuchma’s affirmation that the Carpathians have the richest gold deposits has not yet been erased from memory. ! Nothing changes in the independent!
  26. sgrabik
    sgrabik 13 January 2019 00: 00
    0
    We are already afraid of this alder, so much so that we already put everything in our pants from fear !!!