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From a dead donkey's ears, not the Kuriles. Japan's sweet speeches are flavored with poison!

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Well, it seems that someone finished the game. Just yesterday, it seemed that preparations for the signing of a peace treaty with Japan were in full swing, and suddenly such a turnaround: Japanese ambassador Toyohis Kouzuki was summoned to the Russian Foreign Ministry and politely told him a lot of unpleasant things.


According to the Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Igor Morgulov, the Russian Foreign Ministry regards the recent statements by the Japanese leadership as "an attempt to artificially force the atmosphere around the problem of a peace treaty, to impose its own scenario of settling it on the other side." And against the background of that idyll, which, it seemed, had recently accompanied the thaw in Russian-Japanese relations, it became a real tub of cold water.

The head of the Japanese diplomatic mission said that such statements grossly distorted the essence of the agreements between the leaders of Russia and Japan to speed up the negotiation process based on the Joint 1956 Declaration of the Year, disorienting the public of the two countries regarding the content of the negotiations.


If someone missed the last news from this front, let me remind you: literally in the last few days, several loud statements from the Japanese side immediately followed, the implication of which left no doubt about the imminent transfer of some of the skeletons of the Small Kuril Ridge of Japan.



At first, official Tokyo graciously “allowed” Russians living in “disputed territories” not to leave them after the islands returned to Japan. Then the media appeared touching история that Prime Minister of Japan Shinzo Abe at the grave of his father vowed to resolve a territorial dispute with Russia. Well, the “cherry on the cake” was the decision not to demand compensation from Russia for the “years of occupation”, adopted just a few days ago.

Agree, even if we leave aside the substantive essence of such statements, they create a clear feeling that Moscow has already agreed to the transfer of the "northern territories" to Japan, and moreover on the terms of the latter. Tokyo’s rhetoric is the winner’s rhetoric, graciously and graciously promising not to kill the defeated enemy, and not the speech of one of the negotiating parties most interested in solving the “territorial problem”, which formally does not exist for Russia.

Such behavior of Tokyo could not but cause bewilderment in any person who at least understands something in politics. No, really, if you are so fortunate enough to agree on such an important issue for yourself, then sit quietly and wait for the official signing of the documents. After all, everything seems to have been decided in your favor?

Or is it not?

Let's get rid of the thought that the head of Japan are stupid, completely incompetent people. Already at this level they can behave, and they know the subtleties of diplomatic and negotiation etiquette in the smallest details. So, these statements were made deliberately, and for some purpose. The question is with what?

And the goal, in general, is seen only one - a blow to the reputation of the current president of the Russian Federation. Now, after a poorly accepted pension reform in society, amid a stalemate in the economy and serious discontent in society with the dubious results of our government, any blow to Putin will be very sensitive. And somewhere (and not the fact that it is in Tokyo) that is well understood, preferring to use every chance to inflict similar reputational damage.

Let us abstract for a moment from the question, whether we support Putin personally or not so much: it is important though it is, but only to a certain extent. Much more important is another thing: under the threat of some kind of external pressure, even the most “controversial” Putin is still better than a possible Maidan and subsequent chaos. That is, we must clearly understand that in certain situations a blow to Putin is a blow to all of Russia. And you need to take it accordingly ...

In such a context, the choice of topics raised by the Japanese side seems non-random. After all, they, with the right pitch, are very humiliating for Russia, although outwardly everything seems to be looking quite decent. And really, should we refuse to protect our interests even in the event of some partial transfer of the islands? In the end, our fishing enterprises are working there, which will surely lose considerable amounts of catch in the exclusive economic zone that has departed from Japan around the islands. And if you project it for several decades, which is quite true for this kind of decisions, the amounts will be really very large.

It is unlikely that the Russian people living on the disputed islands, are ready to resign their Russian citizenship just as meekly and stay in Japan. The experience of secession of the Baltic states and some other territories was too eloquent: first they promised paradise, and then ... And then, as in that statement, the Ukrainian Nazi Boris Filatov: "Promise them everything, and cut them ... And we will cut them later." And those who are smarter would probably prefer to receive compensation from the Japanese side (for hundreds of thousands of dollars) in order to settle down calmly and comfortably in any place in Russia where they would “cut later” just because they are Russian, no one will ever .

But instead, we are given to understand: it is enough from you that we will not be undressed to the last.



No, comrades imperial subjects, with such an approach it is time to talk about the controversy of Hokkaido. A good move, by the way: to demand the return of the Hokkaido Ainus, who have lived there since time immemorial, and declare themselves the guarantor of their interests (as the Americans like to do). And then agree: so be it, leave Hokkaido Japan, but in exchange for compensation and the abandonment of claims to the Kuril Islands.

No, but what? It is in the spirit of "good neighborliness and cooperation", as it is understood in the West (and in the Far East).

Probably, someone will say that Japan is really interested in successfully concluding a peace treaty with Russia. And if there were any mistakes and incorrect rhetoric there, then this is due to some vertigo from possible success. Well, maybe so ...

But another option is very likely: Tokyo is not satisfied with the return of only two, the smallest objects of dispute - the island of Shikotan and a small group of small islands Habomai. And there they decided to take the lead of the Americans, unobtrusively raising the stakes and putting on the overthrow of power in Russia with the subsequent division of its Far Eastern heritage. After all, it is no secret that on the maps of Japanese nationalists, all the Kuriles and all of Sakhalin are painted in the national colors. And this is such a big score that the Japanese could take the risk.

If we accept this alignment as a basic one, it becomes clear why we heard all these statements from Japan.

And in this case, it is necessary to pay tribute to the Russian authorities: they recognized the poison rather quickly, responded in a timely manner. And although the reaction does not look very harsh (although in a purely diplomatic language, it is very tough, only the ambassador’s response and sending the gunboats), there is no doubt that the prospect of signing a peace treaty between the Russian Federation and Japan has been postponed indefinitely.

Putin, as you know, does not like personal attacks and betrayal. And if he regards the actions of Tokyo as part of a conspiracy with the Americans, then no flattering smiles will fix them for this.

From the dead donkey's ears, they will receive, not the Kuriles.
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  1. Strashila
    Strashila 10 January 2019 05: 45
    +43
    "A good move, by the way: to demand the return of Hokkaido to the Ainu, who have lived there since time immemorial, and to declare themselves the guarantor of ensuring their interests (as the Americans like to do)." continuation of the Kuril ridge, and he is all ours by agreement, so they themselves asked for the abandonment of the island. Give Hokkaido to Russia.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 10 January 2019 06: 03
      +28
      . The head of the Japanese diplomatic mission was told that such statements rudely distort the essence of the agreements between the leaders of Russia and Japan on accelerating the negotiation process on the basis of the 1956 Joint Declaration

      Personally, I am categorically against GIVING the islands, albeit on the basis of the 1956 declaration!
      From the stated, it can be understood that trade for the islands is going on (according to the 1956 declaration). That is, all the hype arose for a reason.
      1. Russia
        Russia 10 January 2019 06: 09
        +14
        I support your categorization Stas! hi I think it will be so. wink
        1. Nick_R
          Nick_R 10 January 2019 08: 47
          +1
          The author loudly shouts "we will not give up even an inch" without even understanding the situation. Putin has already made a decision to separate the two islands and only the Japanese themselves can prevent him, including by unnecessary claims and hype. That is why our Foreign Ministry made a statement.
          The Japanese were too loud, and Putin needs to "prepare" the population for the return of the islands without dust and noise. This was reported to the Japanese ambassador.
          1. Servisinzhener
            Servisinzhener 10 January 2019 09: 07
            +20
            Putin has already made a decision to leave two islands
            On what basis do you claim this? Putin told you about this personally?
            1. AnpeL
              AnpeL 10 January 2019 11: 57
              +7
              The Japanese were too loud, and Putin needs to "prepare" the population for the return of the islands without dust and noise
              I wonder how you can prepare the population for the return of the Russian territories in the light of the socio-economic situation that has developed lately? Or they’ll say: we won’t be going to raise utility rates this year, we will repair the roads, gas and electricity will be available to the people and almost free, education, medicine and safety, EVERYTHING FOR YOU ... but only until the end of the year, and there hi .
              1. CALL.
                CALL. 10 January 2019 13: 58
                +2
                Tokyo is not happy with the return of only two, the smallest, objects of dispute - the Shikotan island and a small group of small islands of Habomai.


              2. Nick_R
                Nick_R 10 January 2019 14: 58
                +6
                I wonder how you can prepare the population for the return of the Russian territories in the light of the socio-economic situation that has developed lately?

                Well, how do you explain. . . about how to raise the retirement age. . .
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 10 January 2019 12: 38
              +24
              Some liberal media claim that by giving up the Kuril Islands and signing a peace treaty with Japan after the 1945 war, Russia will allegedly end the "state of war" between the USSR / RF and Japan. In fact, this is nonsense and political provocation of pro-Western liberal globalists in their purest form! Namely.

              Actually peace between the USSR / RF and Japan has long been - in fact - already fixed by the 1956 Declaration of the year, which confirms the presence of diplomatic, consular, etc. the relationship between our countries.
              In such a situation, it remains only enough to sign between our countries something like a "treaty on stable cooperation" or "comprehensive agreement", etc. - but in no way change the existing state borders after the WWII, to which the Japan-Soviet war of 1945 belongs. Moreover These boundaries are already recognized by the international community!

              Rђ RІRѕS, on the basis of which the anti-Stalinist Khrushchev promised in 1956 according to the declaration between our countries pass Japan 2 Kuril Islands? And why is the current liberal, anti-Stalinist Russia transferred 80 thousand square meters. kilometers of the Norwegian sea and shelf, why did a piece of Dagestan go to Azerbaijan, why did part of the Amur Islands, along with the Orthodox church, get China? Here it is necessary to understand this !!!
            3. Nick_R
              Nick_R 10 January 2019 14: 57
              +3
              On what basis do you claim this? Putin told you about this personally?

              Putin personally announced that he proposed making peace with Japan on the basis of the 1956 declaration, which envisaged the transfer of two Kuril Islands to Japan. Is this not enough for you?
              Well, in general, I see no reason to argue, wait and see.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 10 January 2019 16: 14
                +6
                Quote: Nick_R
                On what basis do you claim this? Putin told you about this personally?
                Putin personally announced that he proposed making peace with Japan on the basis of the 1956 declaration, which envisaged the transfer of two Kuril Islands to Japan.

                I confirm the words of Nick_R (Nikolay), because I heard with my own ears in one of the videos the answer from Putin himself on the "Kuril problem" in negotiations with Japan that he finds nothing special in the fact that the settlement of relations between Russia and Japan will take place on the basis of the Khrushchev Declaration of the 1956 of the year.
                According to GDP, the transfer by Russia of the 2s of the Kuril Islands of Japan is supposedly an act of voluntary peacefulness of the USSR / Russia towards Japan as an act of voluntary peacefulness on the part of the winning country, i.e. USSR / Russia, in the Soviet-Japanese war during WWII in relation to the country he defeated, i.e. Japan.
                Like, supposedly we - Russia - these islands were conquered, we can give them to Japan!

                Today is the Kuril Islands. Tomorrow Kaliningrad and Karelia # Nikolay Platoshkin.
            4. SashOK
              SashOK 11 January 2019 23: 24
              0
              This is along the way Putin’s consultant writes
          2. asv363
            asv363 10 January 2019 11: 19
            +8
            Quote: Nick_R
            The Japanese were too loud, and Putin needs to "prepare" the population for the return of the islands without dust and noise. This was reported to the Japanese ambassador.

            Last paragraph of yesterday’s message of the Russian Foreign Ministry:
            9.01.19 19:09
            About the meeting of the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation I.V. Morgulov with the Ambassador of Japan to Russia T. Kodzuki

            8-09-01-2019

            ...
            In this context, the invariability of Russia's principled position that the solution of the peace treaty problem is possible under conditions of creating a qualitatively new atmosphere in Russian-Japanese relations was emphasized, should be supported by the peoples of both countries and be based on Tokyo's unconditional recognition of the results of World War II in full, including the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over the southern Kuril Islands.

            The year of Japan in Russia (2018) has ended, there will be no more indulgences.
          3. mikh-korsakov
            mikh-korsakov 10 January 2019 11: 30
            +7
            Nick_R. The author is apparently right. when he writes that the hype of the Japanese was raised under US pressure. She (hype) is made by the Japanese then. when they became convinced that in the current situation Putin would not give them anything. For Putin there is no need to give them. The Japanese will not remove the sanctions from the Russian Federation anyway, even if they want, the United States will not give. The Japanese are experienced diplomats. Therefore, if nothing shines, then at least spit on Putin. The purpose of their statements is to further excite the people of the Russian Federation against the authorities. So you hit the net.
            1. Nick_R
              Nick_R 10 January 2019 15: 04
              0
              She (hype) is made by the Japanese then. when they were convinced that in the current situation Putin would not give them anything

              You probably haven't caught the essence of the Japanese hype. They have already trumpeted that Putin is giving them two islands and are now discussing such "practical" questions as: what to do with the people who live on the islands, whether to demand compensation from Russia for the "illegal" occupation, and whether it is generally worth agreeing on 2 islands or is it still worth it. at least four.
              1. mikh-korsakov
                mikh-korsakov 10 January 2019 15: 34
                -2
                Nikolay! The Japanese can trumpet anything they want, that's their right. But I think that the main core of the problem is that there is NO NEED for Putin to give them away. I admit that there was some kind of conversation between Putin and Abe, moreover initiated by the Japanese themselves, because among the Japanese the question of the "Northern Territories" has taken root in their minds. Back in 1992 I was there, and those Japanese who are dumber. they asked my humble person, they say, when will you give it back .. For us, by and large, the Peace Treaty with Japan will not bring any dividends, in any area. I admit that Putin asked Abe, "Well, let's agree on the islands, remove the sanctions from us, will you allow us to use your technologies?" And he asked about it purely out of politeness. Because the hedgehog and Abe, among other things, understand that the issue of lifting the sanctions is not within the competence of the Japanese Empire. Hence the rest. And the hype raised by Abe, I fully agree with the author of the article, was raised in order to finally screw up Putin. In addition, the State Duma is already discussing a law banning the transfer of islands. which will be unconditionally accepted and will give the same Putin an "elegant" excuse to refuse further discussion.
          4. Alber
            Alber 10 January 2019 11: 44
            +11
            Quote: Nick_R
            The author loudly shouts "we will not give up even an inch" without even understanding the situation. Putin has already made a decision to separate the two islands and only the Japanese themselves can prevent him, including by unnecessary claims and hype. That is why our Foreign Ministry made a statement.
            The Japanese were too loud, and Putin needs to "prepare" the population for the return of the islands without dust and noise. This was reported to the Japanese ambassador.

            Fuck them!
            And if you give, at least a piece! That most of the Russian people will hate him.
            Including me.
            Stop giving. And so most of the property was stolen and left the country without industry ... If you give even an island, then it will soon give away the land of Russia.
            Where is the law on "RESPONSIBILITY OF TOP OFFICERS FOR BREACHING THE INTERESTS OF THE COUNTRY, LOOSE TERRITORIES, REDUCING THE AREA OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION"?
            Already about Shirvanadze signed a paper on the transfer of thousands of square kilometers to the Americans, with the knowledge and consent of Gorbaty and with no demand so far
            1. Nick_R
              Nick_R 10 January 2019 15: 08
              +1
              And if you give, at least a piece! That most of the Russian people will hate him. 
              including me

              Did you really hate him for raising his retirement age? And for cutting the budget with his St. Petersburg friends?
              Or maybe you think Putin cares what you think about? I think he does not care about you, as well as the opinion of everyone else.
          5. ochakow703
            ochakow703 10 January 2019 13: 42
            -3
            ... "Putin has already made a decision to separate two islands" ...
            What time! And they didn’t speak on TV ...
            That's how fairy tales and ... storytellers are born.
          6. Gray brother
            Gray brother 10 January 2019 15: 27
            +1
            Quote: Nick_R

            The author loudly shouts "we will not give up even an inch" without even understanding the situation. Putin has already made a decision to separate two islands

            Here it is! It happened!
          7. Kawado
            Kawado 11 January 2019 15: 24
            0
            Putin has already made a decision to leave two islands

            Yes, yes ... I remember! just the other day they drank vodka with him, he told ...
            By the way, this is not the case you were sitting there on the right at the table, between Shoigu and Dmitry Anatolyevich?)))
            1. SashOK
              SashOK 11 January 2019 23: 28
              +1
              yeah, confirm, it’s kind of like somewhere between 6 and 7 a glass was
        2. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 10 January 2019 11: 18
          +14
          I agree with Stas. I'll add it myself. References to negotiations with Khrushchev in 1056 are inappropriate, because now is a different time. In 1956, the USSR was a powerful state at the head of the camp of socialism. Therefore, at that time, the return of two small islands, moreover, while it should be undeveloped, would have passed unnoticed. Now, the author is right, against the background of the failures of the Russian Federation in foreign and domestic policy, the return of even two islands would look like the last nail in the coffin of Putin's policy, which means, whatever one may say, the Russian Federation as a whole. because there is no intelligible alternative capable of getting power from Putin "without noise and dust" in Russia, everything has grown together there too.
        3. Proxima
          Proxima 10 January 2019 17: 05
          +1
          No, comrades, imperial subjects, with such an approach it is just right to talk about the controversy of Hokkaido. A good move, by the way: to demand the return of Hokkaido to the Ainu, who have lived there since time immemorial, and declare themselves a guarantor of their interests (as Americans like to do). - from the text.

          With Hokkaido, in general, the question is extremely serious. This territory was designated in the "Atlas of Russian Lands" (late 18th century). Moreover, Alexander the First, in a letter to the Japanese emperor, "reminded" him that Hokkaido is Russian territory - there was no answer (silence is a sign of consent). Moreover, as a result of the Second World War, Hokkaido was supposed to go to the USSR. Stalin later refused. He had plans for Japan to be an integral independent state. So, I don’t know how this proverb sounds in Japanese, but in Russian: "Don't be dashing while it is quiet." stop
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 06: 36
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        From the stated, it can be understood that trade for the islands is going on

        Where is he going?
        As noted, the diplomat was told that in Moscow they drew attention to the statements of the Japanese leadership on the need to “understand” the residents of the South Kuril Islands on the issue of “transferring the territorial affiliation of the islands to Japan.” Kozuki was pointed out that they grossly distort the essence of the agreements of the leaders of the two countries.

        “Such statements cannot be regarded otherwise than as an attempt to artificially escalate the atmosphere around the peace treaty problem, to impose on the other side its own scenario for its settlement,” the statement said.

        The Foreign Ministry emphasized the invariability of Moscow’s principled position on this issue.

        https://russian.rt.com/world/news/590718-posol-yaponii-mid-kurily
        You can’t wait until Putin gives up the islands.
        1. novel66
          novel66 10 January 2019 07: 54
          +8
          even trade as such ... the condition for the withdrawal of Amer’s bases from japia, as you know, is impossible ... great Sanka !! hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 07: 56
            0
            Quote: novel xnumx
            ... the condition for the withdrawal of Amer’s bases from japia, as you know, is impossible

            Rum is healthy, well, I don’t even know, the people here are selling land to the full.
            1. novel66
              novel66 10 January 2019 07: 57
              0
              yes sting more trade out of habit ..
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 04
                -6
                Quote: novel xnumx
                out of habit ..

                It is necessary to treat
                1. novel66
                  novel66 10 January 2019 08: 05
                  -1
                  Surgically, only surgically!
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 06
                    -4
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    Surgically, only surgically!

                    I have only an ax and a rope
                  2. northern
                    northern 10 January 2019 10: 04
                    -4
                    only surgically!

                    "Without waiting for peritonitis!" (from)
            2. 79807420129
              79807420129 10 January 2019 10: 52
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              the people here are selling land to the full.

              Not only lands laughing Look what passage
              Quote: Nick_R
              Putin has already made a decision to give up the two islands and only the Japanese themselves can prevent him

              Next, skip, and here
              Quote: Nick_R
              and Putin needs to "prepare" the population for the release of the islands without dust and noise. This was reported to the Japanese ambassador.

              It seems the psychiatrist is powerless here request
          2. 072
            072 10 January 2019 08: 41
            +1
            And let them turn as they want
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 10 January 2019 08: 07
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Where is he going?

          Especially for you, Sanya, and whoever pisses you there, once again, the Russian Foreign Ministry itself reports:
          The head of the Japanese diplomatic mission was told that such statements rudely distort the essence agreements between the leaders of Russia and Japan to accelerate the negotiation process on the basis of the 1956 Joint Declaration, disorientate the public of the two countries regarding the content of the negotiations.

          I outlined for you black even about agreements and about leaders. From this it follows that there are behind-the-scenes negotiations on the transfer of the island on the basis of the 1956 declaration. What does with acceleration negotiation process! This word, look, there is also there.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 11
            -12
            Quote: Stas157
            Based on the 1956 declaration of the year. What does the acceleration of the negotiation process! Look at this word there too.

            Negotiations have been going on since 1956, hold on to Stas, and hold on once more. Zyuganov and the party are behind us !!! And Lenin is so young and young October ahead .......
            wink
            And I have a toast for Stalin! Standing up
            Stas pour brother
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 10 January 2019 08: 15
              +11
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Negotiations have been going on since 1956

              No, Sanya, on Khrushchev they ended. After the corn crop, not a single Soviet leader raised this topic. To Yeltsin.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 21
                -12
                Quote: Stas157
                No, Sanya, on Khrushchev they ended. After the corn crop, not a single Soviet leader raised this topic. To Yeltsin.

                C'mon, let's better in the second, for the Kuril Islands, for our Patria, for the precepts of Ilyich!
                Listen, and so between us, I want to purchase 7 volume of Lenin ......... Vladimir Ilyich. Do not tell me where to buy. By the way, he spoke interestingly on the Kuril Islands. I want to replenish the store of knowledge, so to speak.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 10 January 2019 08: 34
                  +10
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  C'mon, let's better in the second, for the Kuril Islands, for our Patria, for the precepts of Ilyich!

                  Since the New Year do not dry out?)) Not Sanya, I’m better off skiing in the woods, in a fresh breeze.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 43
                    -9
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Not Sanya, I'm better at skiing in the woods, in the fresh breeze.

                    What skiing, what kind of forest ????????????? Now that the fate of the Motherland depends on each and every one ... When each person counts, are you skiing and in the bushes ???
                    Stas, I didn’t expect this from you. Get a party card and together on the barricades, against the capitalists angry
                    PS And grab a half a liter, it's cold outside.
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 10 January 2019 09: 07
                      +5
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      What skiing, what kind of forest ???????????? Now that the fate of the motherland depends on each and everyone

                      Well, this is just a workout. For the upcoming challenges!))) And the volume of Zyuganov, like your Bible, I always have with me. Even on the track!
                      1. Cheslav Tsursky
                        Cheslav Tsursky 10 January 2019 09: 51
                        +7
                        Alexander Romanov, well, they want the negotiations to be held in that perspective, you understand? Since the Americans brazenly thwarted the attempts of the CPSU leader Khrushchev to pay with the Japanese for a peace treaty by our islands, these comrades have generally been in an extremely offended state. They have shaking and terrible breaking. I really want them to personally cover up Putin with paranoid suspicions of the intention to give up the islands. Here, after all, it’s important not the essence and not even the final, but the process itself! Who does not ride that ... smile And they don't give a damn that the US position has not changed since then. And they are not going to leave Japan at all! And that Putin publicly offered to sign a peace treaty without any preconditions and never spoke about the possibility of giving up the islands! "Who does not jump, who does not jump, who does not jump !!!" This is their essence! Yesterday, here one comrade generally agreed to openly propagate the civil war in Russia and threaten to kill his opponent! Here it is - hysterical propagandists-provocateurs whip up hysteria and sometimes forget that they are not in Japan and have not yet crossed the border in the western direction.
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                      4. Mouse
                        Mouse 10 January 2019 10: 58
                        -1
                        You risk not getting home at all, suddenly someone has already tidied up your value ...
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                      10. Stas157
                        Stas157 10 January 2019 10: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        Nothing you can ...

                        Come, dear, we'll figure it out! Or why don't you need a se-bunch ??
                      11. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 10 January 2019 10: 51
                        -4
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Come, dear, we'll figure it out!

                        Are you threatening? repeat
                      12. Stas157
                        Stas157 10 January 2019 10: 53
                        +2
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        Are you threatening?

                        No, dear! Just come, I’ll make you a se-bunch, and let it go. All as he requested!
                      13. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 10 January 2019 10: 55
                        -7
                        Quote: Stas157
                        No, dear! Just come, I’ll make you a se-bunch, and let it go. All as he requested!

                        Just alternatively gifted. yes
                      14. Stas157
                        Stas157 10 January 2019 10: 58
                        +3
                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        Just alternatively gifted.

                        Are you that? Yes! I immediately understood this. Don’t you leave the topic, will you come to the se-bunch? Or do you know how to use revenge?
                2. Vlad5307
                  Vlad5307 10 January 2019 13: 00
                  +3
                  Better buy the volume of I.V. Stalin. hi
              2. kimvladimiril
                kimvladimiril 10 January 2019 19: 34
                0
                If even under Yeltsin they didn’t give ...
          2. Tank hard
            Tank hard 10 January 2019 10: 20
            -3
            Quote: Stas157
            Especially for you, Sanya, and who's pluses you there

            As a plus Sanka, I’m very interested, have they already given it up ?!
            Everything is lost!
            It was necessary to minus ... fool
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 10 January 2019 10: 30
              +5
              Quote: Tank Hard
              As a plus Sanka, very interested, though already given away ?!
              Everything is lost!

              But what, the very intention (negotiations) to give up the territory doesn’t scare you? If already will be given, it will be too late! You need to drink Borjomi (react) until the kidneys (islands) have fallen off.
              1. Tank hard
                Tank hard 10 January 2019 10: 38
                -3
                Quote: Stas157
                And what, the very intention (negotiations) to give the territory to you not scary

                No. While there are no deeds (and there are none), the words are dead.
              2. Cheslav Tsursky
                Cheslav Tsursky 10 January 2019 10: 45
                -1
                As a person who also gave Romanov plus to you, Stas, I’ll say that from the moment the elite of the CPSU in its entirety pulled and sold our country, nothing scares me! If they were not destined, as a result of circumstances beyond their control, to give the Japanese to the island then who would present them now ?! Since then, we have only returned the land. Crimea and Donbass donated by the same communists to the Ukraine they created for example! Probably heard? Belarus will return home soon. I declare this to you responsibly. All the same, I think about Abkhazia and Ossetia. Time to throw stones - time to collect! Tomik Zyuganov, this is of course your business, however, once again you will definitely not succeed in creating Ukraine with Kazakhstan from the Russian land.
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 10 January 2019 11: 35
                  +5
                  Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                  CPSU elite in full force stole and sold our country

                  What are you talking about EBNa with his last? Indeed, both of them were communists, but then turned over.
                  Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                  If they were not destined to give the Japanese islands due to circumstances beyond their control, then

                  You say that the USSR wanted to give the islands to the Japanese ?? If I wanted to, I would do it! Why judge what has not happened in the subjunctive mood?
                  Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                  once again you will not be able to create Ukraine with Kazakhstan from the Russian land

                  "Ukraine and Kazakhstans" received statehood only under your current government. There is nothing to blame from a sore head on a healthy one.
                  1. Cheslav Tsursky
                    Cheslav Tsursky 10 January 2019 11: 48
                    -1
                    Quote: Stas157
                    What are you talking about EBNa with his last?

                    Why only about Yeltsin? Gorbachev, Yakovlev. Shevarnadze ... Yes, absolutely the entire party elite, including the leadership of the Union republics.
                    Quote: Stas157
                    "Ukraine and Kazakhstans" received statehood only under your rule! There is nothing to blame from a sore head on a healthy one.

                    What are you ?! Republic with its leadership and with the right to withdraw from the Union is that ?! Maybe by the time of the collapse of the USSR, in addition to the communist country, there was some other power? Maybe there was a multi-party system? From bottom to top, the Communists were in power. Any revolution in history always ends with a division of property. We ended up with a frank pulling and sale of everything and everything! Maybe it's enough to tell your tales?
                    1. Stas157
                      Stas157 10 January 2019 15: 57
                      +6
                      Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                      What are you ?! Republic with its leadership and with the right to withdraw from the Union is that ?!
                      And then! Until 1991, how many Soviet republics withdrew from the Union ??
                      One more time:
                      Quote: Stas157
                      "Ukraine and Kazakhstans" received statehood only under your current government.
                      Can you dispute this, write at least something intelligible?

                      Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                      Why only about Yeltsin? Gorbachev, Yakovlev. Shevarnadze ... Yes, absolutely the entire party elite, including the leadership of the Union republics.

                      Did they sell the country before 1991 or after? If after, then all claims are not against the USSR, but against the new government!
                      How much hypocrisy! All the accusations that the liberals and democrats are guilty of (yes they are former communists) are thrown towards the communists (real ones).
                      Quote: Cheslav Czursky
                      Maybe it's enough to tell your tales?

                      Stop yours first.
        3. Boris55
          Boris55 10 January 2019 09: 10
          -4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The Foreign Ministry emphasized the invariability of Moscow’s principled position on this issue.

          I posted the video below with Putin on the invariability of Moscow’s principled position on this issue. The position of the Foreign Ministry is determined by the president.
          1. kotvov
            kotvov 10 January 2019 10: 12
            +5
            . The position of the Foreign Ministry is determined by the president. ,,
            in general, the constitution should determine the position. Is there something about transferring something to the other hands? but how did it happen that the disputed waters went to Norway. Of course, they don’t remember the Romanovs with all kinds of worship. They all praise and praise.
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 10 January 2019 10: 30
              -9
              Quote: kotvov
              general position should be determined by the constitution

              Constitution of the Russian Federation. st.80 n.3. President of the Russian Federation in accordance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws defines the main directions of domestic and foreign policy State.

              Quote: kotvov
              how did the disputed waters go to Norway

              Then he was president Medvedev. All questions to him.
              1. kotvov
                kotvov 10 January 2019 13: 32
                +5
                All questions to him. ,,
                and what claims can be made to him if he is the best prime minister. His guarantor praises so much that you begin to understand the chicks of one nest.
        4. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 10 January 2019 11: 00
          -4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Stas157
          From the stated, it can be understood that trade for the islands is going on

          Where is he going?

          It goes in the brains of Svidomo-oriented individuals, as well as our fellow citizens from the category - "the boss is gone! We were deceived in the ass!"
      3. Consultant
        Consultant 10 January 2019 07: 45
        -8
        Quote: Stas157
        Personally, I am categorically against

        And who - for?

        And you yourself Baba Yaga earn extra money here? No matter how I look, you are all against, but against wink

        Quote: Stas157
        From the stated, it can be understood that trade for the islands is going on

        From what is happening, it can be understood that the Yap (and some who have joined them, we will not point the finger, this is uncivilized) - another "island aggravation". And that's all.

        Generally funny when person, "burning" on non-compliance with (extremely simple) site rules, suddenly I start teaching diplomats and politicians how and what to do. It's not even funny anymore, everything is much more complicated there. laughing
      4. Meshcheryak
        Meshcheryak 10 January 2019 10: 03
        +9
        Quote: Stas157
        From the stated, it can be understood that trade for the islands is going on (according to the 1956 declaration). That is, all the hype arose for a reason.

        Naturally! Bargaining is underway, otherwise no one would make these statements. Instead of closing this issue once and for all to categorical refusals, there is some kind of "breaking", which gives reason for hope. A muddy story ...
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      6. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 10 January 2019 12: 46
        +10
        The first and initial stupidity of Putin is that he spoke with the Japanese on the subject of territories .. They lost the war and there can be no definition of syu-syu-syu with them. They themselves behaved much tougher when the situation was in their favor.
      7. Orca
        Orca 10 January 2019 12: 47
        +3
        "you can understand that trade for the islands is going on (according to the declaration of 1956)" (c)
        In order to understand something about the alleged trade in the Kuril Islands on the basis of the 1956 declaration, for a start, thoroughly study this declaration. And when you study it, it will become clear to you without additional explanations from the outside why it is not feasible in principle, and why the Soviet leadership at one time rejected it completely.
      8. Kawado
        Kawado 11 January 2019 15: 21
        0
        Change the "disputed islands" to Hokkaido - IMHO, an excellent proposal Karl!)))
      9. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 January 2019 11: 51
        0
        Opposition parties - the Communist Party, Fair Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party - clearly stated: no Kuril Islands. But United Russia, which rules the ball in the State Duma, is silent. Where did her regulars at any microphones go? They are silent, like the United Russia faction itself


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/2550991.html
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
    2. Mcar
      Mcar 10 January 2019 06: 45
      +10
      Quote: Strashila
      Give Hokkaido to Russia.

      No, comrades, imperial subjects, with such an approach it is just right to talk about the controversy of Hokkaido.

      It would be possible to demand the return of Hokkaido if the previous system were socialist. Now this is not possible.

      The Russian bourgeoisie has not yet fully grown out of teenage pants and resembles a youngster admitted to a gang of seasoned criminals. Rights to download not according to concepts. In addition, the Russian bourgeois is in the strongest dependence on overseas - both obshchakovsky and personal money-boxes in foreign banks, real estate from islands to castles, again, outside the Russian Federation, and families there too.

      No, they will not even stutter about Hokkaido. But it’s a pity - Hokkaido belonged to the Russian Empire only 150 years ago, and formally demanding it would be very nice. Of course, the Japanese would not give up, but would have been forced to defend themselves rather than attack. Diplomatic rhetoric would shift to the south - not about the islands in question, but about the island.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 10 January 2019 10: 20
      +10
      = And then agree: so be it, leave Hokkaido of Japan, but in exchange for compensation and rejection of claims for the Kuril Islands. =
      None - agree!
      = In the San Francisco Peace Treaty, "Japan waives all rights, rights and claims to the Kuril Islands and to that part of Sakhalin Island and its adjacent islands, over which Japan acquired sovereignty under the Portsmouth Treaty of September 5, 1905." =
      All! Dot!
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 10 January 2019 17: 08
        +2
        A bill banning the transfer of the Kuril Islands to the Duma has been registered in the Duma.
        So in the Duma there is a man who is worried about fussing with the declaration of the 56th year.
        Will the Duma succeed in adopting this law?
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 10 January 2019 11: 16
      +8
      An analogy with pension reform, important for understanding, follows from the article. If Putin categorically promised not to allow any pension reform before his last election, but this happened, then after that the Kuril issue also hung in the air. Not without reason the Japanese fussed. winked
    5. basal
      basal 10 January 2019 15: 22
      +2
      As far as I remember from history, Russian merchants did their best to trade with the Ainu in Hokkaido, when wild samurai even had no idea about this island. But when the samurai found out ... not a single Ainu in Hokkaido was left. It seems that their descendants still exist in our Far East, and the Yapis cleaned the territory well. Well, who else wants to get to Japan-mother?
  2. andrewkor
    andrewkor 10 January 2019 05: 52
    +11
    At the time of these, a "landing" of Altai Komsomol members in the form of a construction detachment, considered a small homeland, was regularly landed on Shikotan. That is why it is dear to me in addition to being an integral part of the big homeland!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 January 2019 06: 50
      +9
      It is unlikely that the Russian people living on the disputed islands are prepared to resign their Russian citizenship and remain in Japan just as meekly.

      What other controversial territory is it, my father shed blood there and for 70 years it has been ours, so you can chat the Kaliningrad region and Pechenga with Linnahamari is also a controversial territory, and in addition the whole territory of Russia beyond the Urals. You need to think sir.
  3. Vanek
    Vanek 10 January 2019 05: 56
    +8
    And someone sends money to Strelkov and writes letters.

    And our Crimea and the Kuril Islands are also ours. And generally speaking. If in Russia, as we know, the borders do not end anywhere, EVERYTHING IS OUR. And the Kuril Islands and the Crimea!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 10 January 2019 06: 08
      +7
      this is a blow throughout Russia
      -This is a Dzhapovskaya attempt to rock Russia by setting the people against the leadership .... And what an Eastern foul - they will not take compensation for the occupation of the Kuril Islands!
      And the Shikotan and the Small Kuril ridge, certainly not the Khabomai, are a fish land and
      to lose it is the height of stupidity ... Well, non-freezing straits in the Pacific Ocean ....
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco 10 January 2019 06: 37
        +5
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        this is a Japov attempt to rock Russia by setting the people against the leadership.

        Another thing is interesting, I have already said about this, why did our Foreign Ministry react for so long that they were picking at the nose and so that they pulled their fingers up to their ears and plugged them into ears? I don’t believe that some kind of bargaining is not in our favor, yes, but then the Japanese decided to run ahead of the locomotive with such an initiative, they probably just spat on the agreements and voiced them in order to test the population for lice and make up for Putin. (Although I may be wrong in this conspiratorial version, because we do not know anything about what is happening in a real situation behind closed doors) They will not understand one thing, Putin is our president, and we can "beat" and scold him, but when they do it others, then these others and can grab the lula. So if you decide to mount a horse in this way, you can get a hoof)))))
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 06: 36
      -10
      Quote: Vanek
      And someone sends money to Strelkov and writes letters.

      A sucker is not a mammoth, a sucker will not die out.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 10 January 2019 06: 47
        -8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A sucker is not a mammoth, a sucker will not die out.


        yes

        Alexander hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 07: 29
          -10
          Quote: Vanek
          Alexander

          Vanek hi
        2. novel66
          novel66 10 January 2019 07: 56
          -2
          and without sucker, life is bad ...
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 10 January 2019 10: 40
            -8
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and without sucker life is bad


            laughing that's true it's true laughing

            Novel hi
  4. Andrey Sukharev
    Andrey Sukharev 10 January 2019 05: 59
    +13
    The author has a logic, like Solovyov’s: either Putin or Maidan ... another adequate person in this post is not even considered. This is a typical manipulation.
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 10 January 2019 06: 06
      +2
      you have read some text in my opinion. from external players, any attacks on the head of state are a priori attacks on us. these are threats to the country and not internal problems. what does it have to do with someone else when this happens now and here?
    2. perm23
      perm23 10 January 2019 06: 09
      +1
      You or read poorly. or did not understand. The author said that while there is Putin .. and there is no other adequate yet on the horizon .. and therefore the truth is obtained either this or that .. and most importantly. how to understand that the other will be adequate or not
      1. Evdokim
        Evdokim 10 January 2019 06: 27
        -4
        Only yesterday we discussed about the Kuril Islands, in the spirit of "The boss is all gone, Putin is giving the island to the Japanese," and this is the result. And Putin, and there are no alternatives to him at the moment, is still better than UraPanikers. So I agree with you.
        Quote: perm23
        The author said that while there is Putin .. and there is no other adequate yet on the horizon .. and therefore the truth is obtained either this or that ..
        hi
      2. Andrey Sukharev
        Andrey Sukharev 10 January 2019 06: 28
        +12
        The whole problem is not in Putin personally, but in the tail wagging by our leadership on this issue. If there was a strict position strictly observed: our Kuril Islands, and no negotiations, then such incentives from the Japanese would not even have arisen. And the fact that the Japanese are trying to put pressure on Putin's weakness, so they are Japanese, the worse for us, the better ... Weaknesses and mistakes in politics are not forgiven.
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 10 January 2019 06: 46
        +4
        Quote: perm23
        how to understand that the other will be adequate or not

        Let us be honest with ourselves, there is no alternative to Putin today, but his last statements and actions in the eyes of the country's population do not look adequate; as a result of his actions (deception of expectations), the transfer of territories that have already been transferred both in the east is possible so in the west at the end of the last beginning of this century. Here, after all, how does such fuss on the part of Japan turn out, and the GDP is silent, dull as in a tank. He said so about the claims of the Russian Federation on Hokaido, the Japanese would have bitten all the doors of the Russian Foreign Ministry and Embassies with their teeth.
        1. Azis
          Azis 10 January 2019 07: 06
          +8
          and GDP is silent
          He is silent just in case, otherwise he will say a categorical "no", but it will be like raising the retirement age
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 10 January 2019 07: 55
            +3
            Quote: Azis
            Silent just in case

            Here the neighbors discuss a similar topic. Https: //topcor.ru/4877-rossija-japonii-hotite-kurily-sperva-vernite-hokkajdo.html
        2. Rock sett
          Rock sett 10 January 2019 08: 27
          +9
          Quote: Sirocco
          Let us be honest with ourselves, Putin today, there is no alternative, but his last statements and actions in the eyes of the country's population do not look adequate ...

          I will add to your statement, a quote from the author of the article:
          Let’s ignore the question for a moment, do we personally support Putin or not: this is important, but only to a certain extent. Another thing is much more important: under the threat of some kind of external pressure, even the most “controversial” Putin is still better than the possible Maidan and subsequent chaos.

          And I'll ask - just honestly, don't you think that this is not a simple coincidence, but deliberate? Can you imagine how many problems are solved at once, and when the people have a choice question, then there is no choice. And the "guarantor" deliberately led the situation to this. I hung noodles on my ears, and then bam and sailed, and now where they say there and you will row.
          And the Kuril Islands is so, for fools, to distract the people from pressing problems. What difference does it make that the Japanese prime minister is lying to his voters. Well, they simply called an ambassador to our Foreign Ministry, carried out the procedure that they should yell all over Russia - look, we have one more problem, everything is on the side, now we are solving it.
    3. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 10 January 2019 07: 04
      -8
      What is the name of "another adequate person"?
      1. Andrey Sukharev
        Andrey Sukharev 10 January 2019 07: 45
        +10
        We have 140 million people in our country. In your opinion, are they all dolbyotyty, not capable of anything? I think you can do it yourself
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 08: 12
          -12
          Quote: Andrey Sukharev
          I think you can do it yourself

          Tell me, do you have a big business?
          1. Andrey Sukharev
            Andrey Sukharev 10 January 2019 09: 56
            +4
            And for what purpose are you interested in? Are you from the police by any chance?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 09: 58
              -14
              Quote: Andrey Sukharev
              Are you from the police by any chance?

              The police have long been gone, now there is a respected police citizens. Garbage is a thing of the past.
              Quote: Andrey Sukharev

              And for what purpose are you interested in?

              Well, maybe you have talent and I will vote for you
              1. Andrey Sukharev
                Andrey Sukharev 10 January 2019 10: 39
                +3
                [/ quote] Well, maybe you have talent and I will vote for you [quote]


                I can’t go there, my nervous system is already shaken
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 12: 44
                  -8
                  Quote: Andrey Sukharev

                  I can’t go there, my nervous system is already shaken

                  And you push others into the heat.
        2. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 10 January 2019 11: 33
          -1
          Andrey Sukharev
          Well, why should I flatter so repeat
          But seriously, any activity requires knowledge and experience. And I strongly doubt that every cook can manage the state.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 12: 45
            -9
            Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
            And I strongly doubt that every cook can manage the state.

            Maduro has proven that he can. Very bad, but it can wassat
            1. Sergey M. Karasev
              Sergey M. Karasev 10 January 2019 12: 47
              -2
              But very shitty crying Which proves: professionalism is needed in any business.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 10 January 2019 12: 53
                -9
                Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
                Which proves: professionalism is needed in any business.

                And Maduro, what to hang? Let steers away from Russia.
  5. bald
    bald 10 January 2019 06: 29
    +13
    So think about it, well, these islands surrendered to the fig of Japan !? - Reduce the population per square meter? - Dead poultices. Here and do not go for bread, their owners are crushing on Tokyo. And why the states need it, and here it’s clear - not to arrange resorts there. And their statements (promises) are worth something !? - trust them - disrespect yourself.
  6. silver169
    silver169 10 January 2019 06: 57
    +9
    "... the prospect of signing a peace treaty between the Russian Federation and Japan has been postponed indefinitely." That's okay, how can we do without a peace treaty. The Kuril Islands are of strategic importance and their death transfer to Japan is similar.
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 January 2019 07: 19
      +8
      We lived, we live and we will be more alive than all the living and without a peace treaty with Japan. "Ears from a dead donkey" - such a refined diplomatic language I understand, it is in Russian. And the "transmission of the Kuriles" is, apparently, in Japanese, I didn't have a chance to study hieroglyphs.
  7. g1washntwn
    g1washntwn 10 January 2019 07: 01
    +10
    How can discussions about the transfer in any form of the country's territories be possible when:
    Article 280.1. Public calls for the implementation of actions aimed at violating the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation

    ??
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 January 2019 07: 01
    +7
    I completely agree with the author especially - why did the Japanese side suddenly actively begin to put forward humiliating proposals. The other day I wrote that it seems that the Japanese side intentionally escalates and creates the preconditions for a diplomatic scandal. The call of the Japanese ambassador to the carpet and brainwashing him can only be warmly welcomed.
  9. 3vs
    3vs 10 January 2019 07: 02
    +6
    All negotiations only after the withdrawal of Japanese occupying US troops.
    Otherwise, there is no point in discussing something.
    1. stalki
      stalki 10 January 2019 07: 47
      +7
      All negotiations only after the withdrawal of Japanese occupying US troops.
      Otherwise, there is no point in discussing something.
      Even so, there is nothing to discuss.
      1. 3vs
        3vs 10 January 2019 09: 41
        +3
        With an independent country there is something to discuss ...
  10. Konst
    Konst 10 January 2019 07: 04
    +6
    "It's no secret that on the maps of Japanese nationalists all the Kuriles and the whole of Sakhalin are painted in national colors. And this is already such a jackpot that the Japanese could risk it."
    You are what. We still remember how they pricked Russian bayonets on Sakhalin, saved cartridges ... So about the donkey's ears, that's right.
  11. Polymer
    Polymer 10 January 2019 07: 06
    -6
    But the goal, in general, is visible only one - a blow to the reputation of the current president of the Russian Federation. Now, after the pension reform, which was poorly accepted in society, amid a deadlock in the economy and serious discontent in society about the dubious results of our government, any blow to Putin will be very sensitive.

    With the pension reform - yes, there is an assumption that "Akela missed because of Sherkhan," that this reform was deliberately imposed on Putin in order to lower his rating. It is logical if the current dances around the Kuriles are from the same opera.
    But where is the Mowgli who flames the face of Sherkhan and restores justice?
  12. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 10 January 2019 07: 07
    +4
    The head of the Japanese diplomatic mission said that such statements grossly distorted the essence of the agreements between the leaders of Russia and Japan to speed up the negotiation process based on the Joint 1956 Declaration of the Year, disorienting the public of the two countries regarding the content of the negotiations.

    Well, finally we heard at least something intelligible and encouraging! It was high time, back in December, after the first blunders of Abe!
  13. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 10 January 2019 07: 18
    +5
    Tokyo is not happy with the return of only two, the smallest, objects of dispute - the Shikotan island and a small group of small islands of Habomai.

    This is primarily not beneficial to the Russian Federation, because from the moment of transfer of at least one of the islands of the Kuril ridge, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will cease to be only Russian, but will receive international status .... I hope the Kremlin understands this ..
    Russia is a kind soul, however, it does not have extra lands (all the more so, once watered with the blood of Soviet soldiers and sailors ....)
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    2. Stils
      Stils 10 January 2019 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: Lara Croft
      Tokyo is not happy with the return of only two, the smallest, objects of dispute - the Shikotan island and a small group of small islands of Habomai.

      This is primarily not beneficial to the Russian Federation, because from the moment of transfer of at least one of the islands of the Kuril ridge, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk will cease to be only Russian, but will receive international status ....

      This is not entirely true, we are talking about the Lesser Kuril ridge, which include the Khabomai and Shikotan. Possession of these islands does not allow easy access to the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. Even looking at the map, it’s obvious hi
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 10 January 2019 21: 54
        +1
        Quote: Stils
        Even looking at the map, it’s obvious hi

        Looking at the map you can’t see the shelf ....
        1. Stils
          Stils 10 January 2019 22: 21
          +1
          There are two more ice-free straits between Iturup and Kunashir and Kunashir and Urup. If you give these two islands, in addition to the U.S. Navy submarine in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, the entire TF will be left without access to the Pacific Ocean in winter.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 10 January 2019 22: 23
            +1
            Quote: Stils
            There are two more ice-free straits between Iturup and Kunashir and Kunashir and Urup. If you give these two islands, in addition to the U.S. Navy submarine in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, the entire TF will be left without access to the Pacific Ocean in winter.

            That's right, even on the "zombie box" uncle said something about the migration of fish in that place ...
  14. riwas
    riwas 10 January 2019 07: 26
    +4
    It seems that now Putin is becoming like Gorbachev.
  15. rocket757
    rocket757 10 January 2019 07: 30
    +6
    Yeah, the Prime Minister of Japan and his colleagues spoke, talked.
    They also call striped people to help !!!
    Probably they want to scare.
    I want to send them ears from a dead donkey ..... or do we not know something ???
    Here is the dilemma, the level of our trust, of our power !!!
    I would like to believe that in this case they will not step back a step !!!
  16. stalki
    stalki 10 January 2019 07: 43
    +5
    Nothing is clear yet, but the noise is like in a bird market. But if suddenly the surrender of our territory happens, then the authorities will lose their last confidence. Will anyone convince me then that everything is done for the better.
  17. Vsevolod
    Vsevolod 10 January 2019 07: 56
    -2
    Wasn't your resource just yesterday howling about the transfer of the islands as a settled matter? And didn't you howl "putinslil" at the moon-faced Hodor (and the campaign against his grandmother), calling on the Maidan?
    1. stalki
      stalki 10 January 2019 10: 13
      +3
      But didn’t your resource howl yesterday about the transfer of the islands as a settled matter?
      I ask you not to put everyone in Procrustean. hi
    2. Antivirus2k
      Antivirus2k 10 January 2019 10: 51
      +3
      There is no "resource", there are different people who can write articles on this site. And these different people have different points of view. But for you this is, of course, something strange, because since there is only one resource, then everyone should think the same way, like amoeba.
      1. Vsevolod
        Vsevolod 10 January 2019 11: 11
        -3
        Nonsense. Look who the founder and owner is - he orders the trends. And this is HIS resource, not “different people” with “different opinions”.
  18. Boris55
    Boris55 10 January 2019 08: 22
    -4
    In my opinion, Putin clearly spoke on this issue:

    While Japan is occupied by the United States, there will not be any negotiations.

    But when the United States fades from there, I hope everyone understands that it’s not the Wishlist of Japan but the United States to block our fleet and return the status of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk from inside the Russian to the international with all the ensuing consequences, the issue with the islands will disappear by itself.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 10 January 2019 08: 38
      +1
      Putin: "We do not understand the level of Japan's sovereignty ... without an answer to this question, it will be difficult for us to make any decisions."

  19. Konstantin Shevchenko
    Konstantin Shevchenko 10 January 2019 08: 26
    +4
    There is no sense whatsoever in a peace treaty with Japan, because at any moment Japan can break the treaty.
  20. Filing
    Filing 10 January 2019 08: 32
    +6
    Just read an article about Finns
    https://beztabu.net/iskonno-nasha-zemlya-finlyandiya-potrebovala-ot-rf-vernut-zahvachennye-sssr-territorii_n56219?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=lentainform&utm_campaign=beztabu.net&utm_term=1276971&utm_content=6834325
    they also want a new redivision of the territories. Having given the islands you will receive a new wave of requirements in the territory received after 1945.
  21. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 10 January 2019 08: 34
    -3
    Diluted bodyagi! Nothing Putin will give the Japs! And let the Japanese glavnyuk make hara-kiri as a disgrace to the memory of his father! negative
  22. Stils
    Stils 10 January 2019 09: 27
    +1
    Most likely, the Japanese have already received a promise to give them two small islands, and as you know, appetite comes with eating, now bargaining has begun for two large ones. They do not want to sign a paper that after the transfer of two islands and the conclusion of a peace treaty, they WILL no longer have territorial claims against the Russian Federation, hence all these attempts to pressure, in fact, they themselves deliberately ran into this note and abandoned the two islands, in the naive hope of more. If in 1956 the Yapas did not want two islands instead of four, as they did under Yeltsin, and in the current situation they have long been calculated, so we "agree" to give Khabomai and Shikotan, only no one will take it, and the Kremlin understands this very well ... And greed, as you know, ruined the frayer, you bald horseradish Abe, not the island!
  23. mehan
    mehan 10 January 2019 09: 40
    -4
    Hokkaido Ainam ... Yakutia Yakuts .... Konigsberg Prussians .... Is it logical?
  24. BAI
    BAI 10 January 2019 09: 45
    +3
    such statements grossly distort essence of agreements leaders of Russia and Japan to accelerate the negotiation process on the basis of the 1956 Joint Declaration

    Those. an indisputable fact is recognized - there is an agreement. What about? Whom to believe - our Government, which has repeatedly lied, or rather, systematically, or Japan?
  25. flicker
    flicker 10 January 2019 09: 46
    +5
    From the dead donkey's ears, they will receive, not the Kuriles.
    Here it is good
  26. Meshcheryak
    Meshcheryak 10 January 2019 09: 58
    +5
    The head of the Japanese diplomatic mission was told that such statements rudely distort the essence of the agreements between the leaders of Russia and Japan on accelerating the negotiation process on the basis of the 1956 Joint Declaration[i] [/ i].
    And why does Russia need these negotiations now !? What do we get from this? Why even lead them? In 1956 it was started when it was hoped that there would be no American military bases in Japan, but they could not agree on this and the islands were not transferred. As part of the negotiations, the prisoners exchanged and closed the topic. And now why do we need to transfer them, albeit two? Why bargain? He surrendered to us this peace treaty !?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 10 January 2019 10: 22
      -1
      The answer is simple. Crimea was annexed in 2014. The international reaction is well known - illegal. If you transfer several small islands to the Japanese, then it seems that you can shut your mouth - they say, we not only "take away", but also return! ...
      1. Meshcheryak
        Meshcheryak 10 January 2019 10: 28
        +4
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        If you transfer several small islands to the Japanese, then it seems that you can shut your mouth - they say, we not only "take away", but also return! ...

        I doubt that the territorial claims against us in the South Kuril Islands in this case will end ... Just let the slack and Genigsberg start asking, but they won’t change their mind about the returning Crimea.
  27. SASHA OLD
    SASHA OLD 10 January 2019 09: 59
    +1
    but thanks to some "silence" on the part of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, so many alarmists and vsepalshchikov showed themselves ..))
  28. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 January 2019 10: 16
    -2
    The question of the Japanese Kuril Islands to satisfy 50%
  29. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 10 January 2019 10: 19
    +2
    How quickly the author perked up and remembered the old rhetoric. What actually happened? They summoned a representative to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, handed over a paper, and briefly told the content of the text. So what? Ordinary event. Will Viktor Kuzovkov have enough courage, after a while, to write on VO a short essay "was wrong" when the islands will pass to Japan? And, judging by the secondary factors, it will be so.
  30. ilik54
    ilik54 10 January 2019 10: 20
    +3
    Japan has no right to demand anything, it is the side defeated, and we are the winners. Japan should sit quieter than water, below the grass, and speak only when asked.
    And if the Japanese want to have islands, then let them first drive the Americans out of their islands, well, and then let them join the Russian Federation on the basis of autonomy, such as Crimea. We will live in united and vast Russia together and for a long time, and we will put our troops and bases on Okinawa so that the Americans do not open their mouths to it.
  31. midshipman
    midshipman 10 January 2019 10: 27
    +7
    Habomai is an Archipelago of seven islands, among which there is about. "Yuri". Readers of "VO" consider this.
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  33. Altona
    Altona 10 January 2019 10: 55
    +4
    even the most "controversial" Putin is still better than the possible Maidan and subsequent chaos. That is, we must clearly understand that in certain situations a strike against Putin is a strike across Russia. And you need to perceive it accordingly
    ---------------------
    Well, here comes the protective rhetoric again. There are no longer any blows to Putin, except those that he inflicts on himself with his situational policy. And the Maidan is already underway, in fact, we have fewer and fewer states, resources are apparently consumed. Another question is that chaos will come with and without Putin, it doesn't matter anymore. It is important what scenario he moves and who will seize power. Our property has long been owned by foreign "investors", so the current government is primarily interested in the collapse of the country. So do not blame again on "moydan cookies". Your "moydan cookies" will be financed by our oligarchs as in the case of Ukraine, and you will not get away from this. Nothing depends on whether the population there will support something or not. The population does not support either the pension reform or the elections or the collapse of the USSR, but it did take place. The king, too, was not overthrown by the people, but by his inner circle. So that's it, Victor.
    1. Darony Grebenkov
      Darony Grebenkov 10 January 2019 11: 17
      +4
      Eugene, every word is true. And here it is:
      Quote: Altona
      Our property has long been owned by foreign "investors", so the current government is primarily interested in the collapse of the country.

      explains a lot in her behavior today.
      1. Altona
        Altona 10 January 2019 12: 49
        +7
        Quote: Daronya Grebenkov
        explains a lot in her behavior today.

        -------------------------
        Yes, the formula "support Putin" touches. He supported the people of Putin in 2014 and received a powerful devaluation of the ruble and other delights, I will not even talk about the draining of New Russia. He supported Putin's people in the 2018 elections and immediately received a bunch of anti-popular laws. So, Mr. Putin, you will somehow manage without the people, you have done without them before, the oligarchs are nicer and more beautiful to you. Anyway, nothing depends on you, Chubais rules in the country. You sneak, then cough, then ask you to treat with understanding the "malnutrition" of Deripaska, Miller and Sechin. That is all I can wish Mr. President.
        1. Darony Grebenkov
          Darony Grebenkov 10 January 2019 12: 55
          +4
          Yes, Eugene, there is even nothing to add ... There, in the news, they are already discussing a bill from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia on vetoing the transfer of the Kuril Islands, it is very interesting to see how the "edro" will behave now)
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 January 2019 12: 58
            +3
            Quote: Daronya Grebenkov
            it is very interesting to see how the "edro" will behave now)

            -------------------------
            This incidentally is an interesting passage. But most likely they won’t even get out, they will carry out their Vlasov anti-people’s decision. And the people for the most part will endure, although someone from the war has not come for these islands in everyone in the family.
            1. Darony Grebenkov
              Darony Grebenkov 10 January 2019 13: 13
              +4
              Quote: Altona
              But most likely they won’t even get out, they will carry out their Vlasov anti-people’s decision. And for the most part people will endure

              So let's see, maybe then some of the people will see the light, our people suffer to the last, it’s not France, but only then they won’t play toys like yellow vests.
              1. Altona
                Altona 10 January 2019 15: 52
                +2
                Quote: Daronya Grebenkov
                So let’s see, maybe then some of the people will see the light, our people endure to the last, it’s not France, but only then they won’t play toys like yellow vests

                -----------------------
                By the way, on the holidays there was a completely truthful report of the First Channel about the "yellow vests". I even went nuts with bewilderment. The journalist interviewed the participant of the action, and he told her with a blue eye that it should not be allowed on the air. He said that the participants in the action against pogroms and clashes with the police, this is done by radical youth. He said that the organization is of the type of cells. He said that the media grossly underestimate the figures of the protesters and write that "the protest is declining." So everything I wrote about was confirmed. And this is not a Maidan with cookies.
                1. Darony Grebenkov
                  Darony Grebenkov 10 January 2019 17: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: Altona
                  By the way, on the holidays there was a completely truthful report of the First Channel about the "yellow vests". I even went nuts with bewilderment. The journalist interviewed the participant of the action, and he told her with a blue eye that it should not be allowed on the air. He said that the participants in the action against pogroms and clashes with the police, this is done by radical youth. He said that the organization is of the type of cells. He said that the media grossly underestimate the numbers of the protesters and write that "the protest is declining." So everything I wrote about was confirmed. And this is not a Maidan with cookies.

                  In general, there is an opinion that yellow vests - socialists - anti-globalists, if I may say so, even according to their requirements, this is understandable.
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 10 January 2019 13: 50
          -7
          Quote: Altona
          Yes, the formula "support Putin" touches. He supported the people of Putin in 2014 and received a powerful devaluation of the ruble and other delights, I will not even talk about the draining of New Russia. He supported Putin's people in the 2018 elections and immediately received a bunch of anti-popular laws. So, Mr. Putin, you somehow get along without the people, you did without them before, the oligarchs are nicer and more beautiful to you. Anyway, nothing depends on you, Chubais rules the country. You sneak, then cough, then ask you to treat with understanding the "malnutrition" of Deripaska, Miller and Sechin. That is all I can wish Mr. President.

          An open letter to the president?
          Brave! yes
          Quote: Altona
          Supported the people of Putin in 2014

          And who needed to be supported? Name?
          Eugene, will you run for next time?
          Is the team formed? Is there a program? Sound it, if it’s not difficult ... Maybe I’ll vote for you, Chubais is also not very good for me ... yes
          1. Altona
            Altona 10 January 2019 14: 59
            +4
            Quote: Tank Hard
            And who needed to be supported? Name?
            Eugene, will you run for next time?
            Is the team formed? Is there a program? Sound it, if it’s not difficult ... Maybe I’ll vote for you, Chubais is also not very good for me ...

            ------------------------------------------
            No, I personally will not run. As for teams and programs, then there will probably be leaders, and teams, and programs. Revolutions take place in capitals. But the current Kremlin team is definitely not the kind of people from whom you can expect something good. We will see.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 10 January 2019 19: 03
              -3
              Quote: Altona
              As for teams and programs, then there will probably be leaders, and teams, and programs.

              Quote: Altona
              We'll see.

              We'll see ...
  34. alauda1038
    alauda1038 10 January 2019 10: 59
    +4
    In the light of recent events, you don’t know what to expect from GDP and Co. so that the GDP itself beats its authority by flirting with the liberals and, in deeds, the reward
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  35. kaban7
    kaban7 10 January 2019 11: 08
    +4
    From a dead donkey - that's right! You can still offer the key to the apartment ...
  36. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 10 January 2019 11: 28
    -1
    The hype around the Kuril Islands is from the arsenal of the African dictator. Distract people's attention from problems. Three or four years of this soap opera is enough fuse. Another breakthrough followed by a breakthrough
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  38. Lunt
    Lunt 10 January 2019 11: 43
    -5
    Let's only without gunboats. We already had one tsushima. It is difficult to find a stupid act than sending ships there. If we fight the Japanese, then on our land, using the Russian winter and midges. As for the islands, first you need to rename them in order to fully make them part of the territory of Russia. Well, as for the statements of the Japanese, you shouldn’t bother at all: the country occupied by the USA is trying to somehow restore its prestige, but you need to start by freeing your territory from American bases. In general, in recent decades, the level of mental development of foreign politicians has fallen sharply, so just because a person became the leader of his party, and then the country's prime minister or president does not mean that he is not a nerd. Therefore, do not look for meaning where it does not exist. They can blurt out everything to maintain their rating among voters.
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 10 January 2019 13: 21
      -3
      If we fight the Japanese, then on our land, using the Russian winter and midges.
      Don't need it. Enough warheads "Vanguard", but rather even not so sophisticated.
  39. paxil
    paxil 10 January 2019 11: 53
    -5
    I read comments and wonder how healthy cockroaches live in some under the skull. What is the transfer of the islands? Nothing that from last year on the Shikotan and Iturup posted machine gun and artillery division? And also the base of the Navy is being built. And so it is clear that no one will give anything back. Well, of course, couch analysts and experts need to be smart.
    1. Andrey Ivantsov
      Andrey Ivantsov 10 January 2019 12: 39
      +4
      Dear friend. When Medvedev gave 90 thousand square meters. kilometers of Norway, such statements as yours were also. And where are now these 90 thousand square meters. km Where are they????????????????????????????????????????
      Andrei.
  40. Andrey Ivantsov
    Andrey Ivantsov 10 January 2019 12: 35
    -5
    Well noted about the intricacies of diplomacy. So, if you look at these subtleties, then they do not fit the subtleties of diplomacy. And under the conspiracy of both parties? YES! It is like that! With such a rating and such a fuss about the entrepreneurial activity of our markets, it is a normal move. The Japanese, to get these islands, will go to any conspiracy. Judging by the article, one can see what the author suddenly started talking interestingly, read! carefully!
    (Let’s abstract for a moment from the question whether we personally support Putin or not: this is important, but only to a certain extent. Another thing is much more important: under the threat of some kind of external pressure, even the most “controversial” Putin is still better than possible Maidan and the ensuing chaos, that is, we must clearly understand that in certain situations a strike against Putin is a strike across Russia. And this must be perceived accordingly).
    MAT!!!! in two moves !!!!
    Don't think the Japanese are fools. Because it's a stupid combination, especially when we're talking about the intricacies of diplomacy. And they will begin to behave this way without mutual consent, because then they understand everything, their khan. And in general, if our grief leaders themselves had not roused them, then there would not have been anything. And now the question: "Who benefits from it." The Japanese don't need noise, that's for sure.
    Regards Andrew.
  41. NordUral
    NordUral 10 January 2019 13: 08
    +8
    At first, official Tokyo graciously “allowed” the Russians living in the “disputed territories” not to leave them after the islands returned to Japan. Then a touching story appeared in the media that Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe vowed on the grave of his father to resolve a territorial dispute with Russia. Well, the "cherry on the cake" was the decision not to demand compensation from Russia for the "years of occupation", adopted just the other day.

    I pass to another quote from the author’s article
    And the goal, in general, is seen only one - a blow to the reputation of the current president of the Russian Federation. Now, after a poorly accepted pension reform in society, amid a stalemate in the economy and serious discontent in society with the dubious results of our government, any blow to Putin will be very sensitive. And somewhere (and not the fact that it is in Tokyo) that is well understood, preferring to use every chance to inflict similar reputational damage.

    Let’s ignore the question for a moment, do we personally support Putin or not: this is important, but only to a certain extent. Another thing is much more important: under the threat of some kind of external pressure, even the most “controversial” Putin is still better than the possible Maidan and subsequent chaos. That is, we must clearly understand that in certain situations a strike against Putin is a strike across Russia. And you need to perceive it accordingly ...


    I do not impose a conclusion. But everything is far from as straightforward as described in the article. We cannot give the Kuril Islands, either on boorish conditions or on affectionate ones, like any square meter of our country.
    And who and what Putin is - so he already told us almost everything after March 18, but there are still more surprises.
    And those who still believe in him will eventually realize that the country needs a different president and a different social system. In which even the thought of no one at the top will have the idea to transfer the Kuril Islands, Kaliningrad and other parts of Russia to anyone.
    1. Maverick1812
      Maverick1812 10 January 2019 14: 33
      +6
      Everything seems to be so, but there is one thing ... It seems to me that in your thoughts that this can be directed against BB you are on the right track, but a little bit wrong. If we proceed from the idea that VV is the head of the colonial administration, then, as in the case of the Skripals, the West (in this case Japan is also the West) is trying to impose on us an opinion about Putin as a fighter and a patriot. It is not for nothing that the "incident" in Salisbury "happened" just before the elections! How many people who succumbed to hurray-patriotism immediately rushed to support the guarantor of all guarantors with their votes ?! There were a lot of them. We are still being "stuffed" with information about how the West does not like BB. Why then do they also dislike his friends who have all the loot in the West ?! Is it a problem to take yachts away from our nouveau riche? I don’t think so! Usmanov, in general, all the time over the hill, but no one is going to arrest him like Bout ... We are stuffed with mischief so that we do not rebel, Kremlin lists, etc. ... The decades that have passed since the collapse of the Union, have not been in vain, and the generation of Coca-Cola (a blow job for an iPhone, pink sneakers, a mortgage apartment and its proximity to a liquor store) are already raising their minions, but they are still afraid of a Russian rebellion, senseless and merciless! And here we just need a kind of jingoistic patriot, a sufferer for the people and a kind tsar (who is asked to help a dying boy during live broadcasts) in the person of BB, but in fact ... in fact, an oprichnina was created, censorship was introduced in if something happens (well, we are not 37 years old ...) but they will come! The patriotism of the current government is a bluff, profanation, and the greatest fiction!
      Just do not impose my point of view ... just shared!
      1. Alexander X
        Alexander X 10 January 2019 16: 00
        -5
        Everything is relative. Who is before our eyes? The traitor of the great country - Gorbachev, the traitor of his country and the infamous drunk - Yeltsin, Andropov and Chernenko - did not manage to show themselves due to the short period of rule. Putin ... And which of the following is still better, as a ruler? I will say more, if there weren’t an inhuman pension reform, tax increases, then Putin’s rating would not have fallen so low compared to the pre-election .... Yes, the reforms of the end of 2018 and the beginning of 2019. I personally was very disappointed in our leader ... but I don’t even see another on the horizon ... from the decent ones, naturally ...
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      2. NordUral
        NordUral 10 January 2019 16: 25
        +7
        Basil! I have long been saying in VO that we have an organized criminal group in power, but in fact the occupation administration since the 91st. Now comes the active liquidation process of the state of Russia and the people.
        And for a faster and more inconspicuous fulfillment of this task, we are blinded by the rightful king, the priest, who with all his soul is for the people, and the evil boyars do not allow him to turn around with all his strength to restore justice in the country.
        And for this, a multifaceted spectacle of the West's irreconcilable hatred for "our guarantor" is being played.
        And from his side the same performance of "getting up from your knees and reviving the power of Russia."
        These are my sad thoughts.
        1. Meshcheryak
          Meshcheryak 10 January 2019 16: 41
          +5
          Quote: NordUral
          I have long been saying in VO that we have an organized criminal group in power, but in fact the occupation administration since the 91st. Now comes the active liquidation process of the state of Russia and the people.
          And for a faster and more inconspicuous fulfillment of this task, we are blinded by the rightful king, the priest, who with all his soul is for the people, and the evil boyars do not allow him to turn around with all his strength to restore justice in the country.
          And for this, a multifaceted spectacle of the West's irreconcilable hatred for "our guarantor" is being played.
          And from his side the same performance of "getting up from your knees and reviving the power of Russia."
          These are my sad thoughts.

          Everything is right! I also always say this, that one troupe is playing this performance.
  42. sleeve
    sleeve 10 January 2019 13: 17
    0
    Yeah. Not a bad thought for a personality attack. Quite, by the way, in the spirit of what is happening in the current moment, which indirectly confirms the presence of a unifying factor in the "world onslaught." Sorry, of course Shinzo Abe. It looks like hara-kiri is inevitable.
  43. Andrey787
    Andrey787 10 January 2019 13: 22
    +9
    It is not clear to me why the theme of the absence of a peace treaty is so discussed by all authors ??? The act of surrender is one of its forms, i.e. ending the war and determining further relations between states. Moreover, everything is determined by the winner, and the losers completely agree with any actions of the winner ... there are no other interpretations !!!

    If the Russian Federation put on the table the "Act of Japan's unconditional surrender" (signed by the USSR and Japan), then further negotiations would end immediately, since no loopholes there !!!

    The 1956 Khrushchev Declaration, it is denounced by both countries, i.e. also has no power except the interest of historians ...

    Moreover, it must be remembered that Khrushchev almost brought the world to a nuclear catastrophe in 1962, illegally transferred Crimea from the RSFSR in 1955, tried to illegally transfer 2 Kuril Islands in 1956, managed to nullify many of Stalin's political achievements, quarreled with China, failures in the economy, gave birth to the "sixties" who subsequently destroyed the USSR, rehabilitated the "Bandera" in Ukraine - we see the result now, and so on.

    To demand from the Japanese to return Hokkaido is a very dangerous and stupid trolling ... Applying it, we can automatically run into an answer ... China will require Siberia and the Far East, Lithuania will require Smolensk, Pskov and other regions, well, Turkey - Crimea, Kuban, Krasnodar Territory, etc. All our neighbors have something to remember, from Finland and Norway to Iran.

    My opinion is:

    1) Stop any negotiations on the topic of the Kuril Islands with Japan, and even legislatively prohibit such negotiations by all government officials.
    2) To develop the economy of the region and raise living standards (increase comfort and attractiveness).
    3) Conduct a clearly calibrated and coordinated state program to attract foreign companies to these South Kuril Islands ... with the exception of the Japanese. When American, Canadian, Korean, Chinese, and other companies work there, under the influence of Russian jurisdiction, this will be the best proof of whose territory it is.
  44. Maverick1812
    Maverick1812 10 January 2019 13: 44
    +7
    Any attempt to "haggle" the country should alert the country .... I believe that the Japanese are not so unreasonable. Apparently, the "price of the issue" has already been identified, and since it does not lie in the plane of the interests of the Russian people (I do not specifically write the State, since these are different things for a long time), the cooperative is trying to get out!
    For himself, and Vova and those who stand behind him, must understand the transfer of the Kuril Islands = death !!!! And political and quite real ..... If we get away with it, we will need to admit that we are really a herd of slaves and not scribble angry posts here!
    1. Kawado
      Kawado 10 January 2019 15: 33
      -5
      co-op trying to get out!

      For himself, and Vova and those who stand behind him ...

      These are these dudes, for ourselves or for us - it doesn’t matter, but they unscrewed the Sea of ​​Okhotsk from the UN as the inland sea of ​​the Russian Federation - completely !!!
      and after the return of Crimea ... in June 2014.
      Those. The UN condemned the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation with one hand, and with the second hand gave the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to the Russian Federation.
      And then such a turn, to give the islands and the Sea of ​​Okhotsk to boot?)) Gygy, "... and win two kingdoms? Don't tell my horseshoes")))
  45. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 10 January 2019 14: 57
    0
    Everything has been played out in our favor in our party.
  46. Vitaly VV
    Vitaly VV 10 January 2019 15: 20
    +2
    Japan needs a “peace treaty” with Russia only to cover up and officially legalize a new military-political treaty directed exclusively against Russia, in anticipation of a new, global war. Similar to the contract "Rome - Berlin - Tokyo",
    Japan really abandoned the Kuril Islands according to the results of the 2nd World War. Insidiousness lies in the fact that it is not clearly established in whose favor the refusal of the Kuril Islands took place. After the conclusion of a peace treaty with Russia and the transfer by Russia of Japan to at least one small rock, Japan, together with the United States, will immediately clarify the conditions for its surrender and its refusal of the Kuril Islands exclusively in favor of the United States. Formally, the United States may not deploy its military base on the transferred island, but simply wash around the territory for any tiny island for a military base and airfields - this is a matter of technology. What China has already successfully demonstrated. This is elementary, Watson. It is strange that this is not misunderstood in the country's leadership. ” Vitaly VV.
    1. Kawado
      Kawado 10 January 2019 15: 57
      -4
      not a fact, firstly, the Japanese were tired of the US military base in Okinawa, and the United States as a whole, and secondly (a couple of minutes of flying) there are quite real Russian warheads aimed at overpopulated Japan, which in case of conflict will certainly fly there and there is no doubt about this fact causes no, besides not only nuclear Russia, but also nuclear China, and even the small nuclear DPRK ... but for the latter, everything connected with the Japanese causes terrible heartburn (at best).
      And in this situation, their best friends from the neighboring continent (which is far from the fact that all the missiles launched in the event of a conflict, will fly) openly quarrel with countries that will crush Japan into river sand in a matter of minutes. They also do not need a conflict with the states on the side of the Russian Federation.
      The states are well aware of the stop with Japan and are doing their utmost to agitate the population on the demand for the transfer of the legitimate Japanese islands, which accordingly makes Japanese politicians spin like snakes in a pan.
      That's what the negotiations are actually about, how to get into the Christmas tree and don’t tear off the ass, and not about some small islands ...
      Japan is now really between a rock and a hard place.
  47. Kawado
    Kawado 10 January 2019 15: 25
    -1
    ... not to demand compensation from Russia for the "years of occupation", adopted just the other day.

    Well, what are you, what are you kind ... Well, why should we pamper us like that?)))

    Analyzing the geopolitics of Putin, the Iturup and Kunashir islands, the Japanese can be completely forgotten from the word ...
    Shikotan and Khabomai do not play a special role for Russia, but nobody is going to give them either, especially considering that the Americans can immediately fall on them.
    So, most likely, as Putin said, the last two islands will be given to the Japanese exclusively for commercial use with the consolidation of Russian sovereignty on them, in order to avoid an American presence on them.
  48. Alexander X
    Alexander X 10 January 2019 15: 49
    -2
    I liked the phrases in article 2: "even the most" controversial "Putin is still better than a possible Maidan and the subsequent chaos" and "From a dead donkey's ears, not islands." With this I agree 100%.
    1. Kot28
      Kot28 10 January 2019 19: 38
      -2
      It is not for nothing that the proverb is popular among the people, there is Putin, there is Russia!
    2. Kot28
      Kot28 10 January 2019 19: 39
      -4
      Liberasts and all-crawlers are furious, which means Putin is doing everything right!
  49. Sanya86
    Sanya86 10 January 2019 16: 13
    +1
    If you still decide to transfer it on our terms. Remove American bases, put them in their place on an ongoing basis))) Then they will forget about the Kuril Islands since the Americans will not allow this
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