The US delegation will explain to the Turkish leadership the danger of buying C-400

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Washington will send a delegation to Turkey to clarify the concerns of the US administration over the purchase of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in Russia, according to News with reference to the head of the secretariat of the Turkish defense industry, Ismail Demir.

The US delegation will explain to the Turkish leadership the danger of buying C-400


According to Demir, the main concerns of the Americans are related to the safety of F-35 fighters, the delivery of which is expected by the Turkish military.

We are constantly being told about possible threats to the F-35 fighter jets if they are stationed near the Russian complexes. The Turkish side has always explained its position to the American partners and informed them about the measures it is taking, but in response never heard a reasoned explanation,
he said.

He added that American experts never came to Turkey to explain all the technical risks. Therefore, Ankara itself asked Washington to arrange the arrival of a delegation that could tell in detail about the concerns of the United States.

Washington accepted the request, and a group of experts should arrive in Turkey in the coming weeks, Demir noted.

At the same time, he did not rule out that, along with the Russian C-400, the Turkish authorities could purchase American Patriot complexes.

Recall, January 6 Turkish media reported on the failure of Ankara from the offer of Washington to buy US Patriot complexes instead of C-400 AAMS. This decision was allegedly made due to the lack of a clause in the proposal on the transfer of technology to the Turkish side. In addition, the US ignored Ankara’s claim for a discount on the declared value of $ 3,5 billion.

The United States has repeatedly advocated the abolition of the purchase by Turkey of Russian air defense missile systems, threatening sanctions and blocking the delivery of already paid F-35 fighter jets. So far, Ankara has not changed its decision.
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  1. +5
    9 January 2019 16: 57
    We are constantly being told about possible threats to F-35 fighters if they are based near Russian complexes.

    1. +2
      9 January 2019 17: 06
      The Americans find an excuse that two fingers describe! Quirky minds will come up with something else for Turkey (and for many others)
      1. +9
        9 January 2019 17: 46
        Quote: afrikanez
        Quirky minds will come up with something else for Turkey (and for many others)

        So they already came up with and even did, but everything turned out very clumsy.

        In my opinion, Turkey's purchase of the S-400 is connected with the growing distrust of the United States and the so-called. "NATO partners". The failed coup made it clear that things could end in the same way as in Libya and that the Patriots, if bought, might not fire at a NATO plane carrying £ 1000 of "democracy" under its wing at the most inopportune moment.
      2. +1
        9 January 2019 17: 48
        The Americans find an excuse that two fingers describe! Quirky minds will come up with something else for Turkey (and for many others)
        What quirky minds are there, what are you talking about? They don’t even have to think, just a little typewriter of Turkey to squeeze harder. But the Turks really need to dodge so that both ours and yours, and by the way they know how.
      3. +3
        9 January 2019 17: 49
        Armed with Greece Air Force NATO Member
        -Russian air defense systems C-300PMU1 12 PU
        -Russian SAM 9K331 "Tor-M1" 4 complex

        and American air defense missile systems PAC-3 Patriot 36 PU
        and nothing .
        .. and no danger ....
    2. +3
      9 January 2019 18: 16
      I wanted to post here a video of the dance of the Nanai boys - because the Amer’s attempts and Turkish breaking are exactly this process and remindlaughing... It has long been clear to everyone that the advance has been transferred, "Triumphs" in Turkey will be and on Fu-35s they will be safely tested, but they still imitate violent activity.
      1. +8
        9 January 2019 20: 08
        Quote: Sarmat Sanych
        "Triumphs" in Turkey will be and on Fu-35s they will be successfully tested,

        And there will be a king - Naked !!!
        That is what the Yankees are afraid of. Where are they next to Fu-35 will begin to cram if the Triumphs of theirs will be decapitated like 2x2 = 4 !?
        That is the problem! And not that the experts explain something to the sultan there.
        AHA.
        1. +2
          9 January 2019 20: 19
          Well, Western partners always have a standard way out for such cases. When they get badly fucked up, in a strange way, a bunch of provocations like "Assad's Khimatak", "Novichkov", "Chechen gays", "Litvinenkov poisoning", etc. begin to happen. And terrorist attacks in Turkey may well become more frequent, remember in 2013-2015 they exploded almost every month, and a couple of years ago they suddenly stopped? So, Western "gentlemen", even when they get shit in their trousers, try to turn their attention to others. Tough times are coming.
  2. +5
    9 January 2019 17: 02
    Washington will send a delegation to Turkey to clarify the concerns of the US administration regarding the purchase of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in Russia

  3. +13
    9 January 2019 17: 06
    According to Demir, the main concerns of the Americans are related to the safety of F-35 fighters, the delivery of which is expected by the Turkish military.

    Everything is correct. Because Turkey, having both the F-35 and the S-400, will be able to clearly see how the F-35 is "invisible" to the C-400. And make the data public. And then all this super-expensive gamble will fall down - everyone will simply refuse to buy them.
    Security Sales The F-35 is really at stake.
    1. +4
      9 January 2019 17: 33
      The most true explanation of hysteria about the S-400. Invisibility will become visible!
      1. +5
        9 January 2019 17: 35
        Rather, everyone will know as far as they are visible. And then they’ll figure out what sums the USA asks for and scratch the pumpkin — what for is such happiness?
  4. +3
    9 January 2019 17: 07
    US delegation will explain to the Turkish leadership

    Someday, the S-400 will explain to US delegations.
  5. -3
    9 January 2019 17: 07
    Washington will send a delegation to Turkey to clarify the concerns of the US administration regarding the purchase of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in Russia
    Yes, what are the explanations ?! They will come to bargain one to another ... For money and political gesheft .. I do not exclude the possibility that the Turks will refuse from 400oks. Well, figs with them, the main thing is that they do not require a deposit back.
  6. +2
    9 January 2019 17: 07
    How many dances around business ... it has become scary ... that NATO members are already buying weapons not from the hegemon ... and the fact of the visibility of American "invisible" systems on the radars of Russian systems may become obvious to the Turks ...
  7. +1
    9 January 2019 17: 11
    I remember the Soviet song - choose me, the bird of tomorrow's happiness.
  8. +6
    9 January 2019 17: 19
    The United States generally wants to impose its patriot on the Turks, at the same time and blackmail them with non-deliveries of f35, in short, either businessmen are blackmailers, or blackmailers with manners of businessmen. .. recourse
  9. +3
    9 January 2019 17: 26
    Type will explain that for 400 invisibles are very visible and it’s silly to buy them, and after that it will reach the rest ...
  10. DPN
    0
    9 January 2019 17: 33
    Well done Turks, they are good at bargaining, they want to get the best for little money, it seems we are giving everything away, and the USA is just more expensive. Moreover, the US Turks have already paid, and we give them a loan.
  11. +3
    9 January 2019 17: 46
    They are afraid that the Turks will not be able to master the S-400 complexes, and, like in the automatic mode, they will bombard all NATO aircraft models ... wink Or even worse, Russian operators will sit at the console ...
  12. +1
    9 January 2019 17: 48
    I present these specialists and their explanations of the type - Oooodnakooooo, typeaaaaa toooooo, becauseooooooo, becauseooooooo, becauseoooooooo, that’s all we can explain, the rest under the bar is secret! We are partners! We need to take a word!
  13. +2
    9 January 2019 17: 53
    Actually, the United States acts as gopniks: buy a brick ... and if you don’t buy you, they’ll shandarahnem on your head)))
  14. +1
    9 January 2019 17: 55
    They decided to send an entire delegation.
  15. +2
    9 January 2019 17: 56
    It seems to me, "gentlemen", that behind everything that happens is Erdogan's eastern insidiousness and Putin's mnogohodovochka ... by mutual agreement and with the secret state benefit thereof. The "debates" have been going on for a very long time. laughing
  16. +2
    9 January 2019 17: 57
    Washington will send a delegation to Turkey

    They are afraid of our air defense, watch how they hysteria and put pressure on Erdogan ..
    Final cleaning will begin in Syria soon and provocations will go
  17. +5
    9 January 2019 17: 58
    The US delegation will explain to the Turkish leadership the danger of buying C-400
    Is it really not clear to overseas traders that this hype around the S-400, they make this complex a worthy advertisement (and, by the way, for free wink )
  18. +3
    9 January 2019 17: 58
    Surely, when buying, the question "friend or foe" is carefully thought out, without prejudice to Russia and satisfying the Turkish side. Now they will start digging, looking for a highlight. laughing
    1. +4
      9 January 2019 18: 21
      Friend or foe is simple and at the same time difficult.
      Hi soldier
      At only in the cinema can it be stolen, in nature only treason from a very narrow circle of people! Or steal, steal a working device, but there, too, seriously everything is protected.
      For example, we did them in a very closed area. Even the installer did not know the parameters very well. Chumadan with two bulbs, good-not-good, that's all the information.
      Of course there is a developer! But who is he, how is he, a secret.
      They will offer the Turks to insert their block, connect to the management / control system and all business.
      Standard procedure for export products.
      1. +4
        9 January 2019 18: 33
        Hello Victor. He knows the essence of the matter, well, it’s a very narrow circle, and you can fantasize as much as you like, even if the war is with Turkey, then he (his own or someone else's) will stop working (on impulse from outside) and the whole program will change. winked
        1. +5
          9 January 2019 18: 55
          There are many dreamers of couches, such is la la vie!
          Sometimes they write it, oh-hoo! However, it’s sometimes interesting to see whether human imagination has chapels .... they read all garbage on Wikipedia!
          However, at the current level of miniaturization and computerization, missiles, and many more, can be crammed with bookmarks. WHO!
          That is why I "suffer" for our radio-electronic industry!
          PS listen, do you have a "fan"? Didn't have time to write, how did they slap you a minus?
          1. +2
            9 January 2019 19: 01
            So our FLIGHT was gouged - and all this was specially done, and the culprits calmly continue to live, or rather swim in luxury. I worked there on the regulation of r / a, a lot of products passed through us and are still being used.
            1. +2
              9 January 2019 19: 27
              Many have their own list, which is gone! There is a reason for us to remember with a "kind" word the former upper ones, and there are more questions to the current upper ones than is permissible in principle.
      2. +3
        9 January 2019 19: 00
        Quote: bald
        for sure, when buying, the question "friend or foe" is carefully thought out, without prejudice to Russia

        The export version is distinguished by the fact that Turkey and any other country establish their own system of state identification. Russia provides only access to interests for its interfacing with air defense systems.
        Quote: rocket757
        At only in the cinema can it be stolen, in nature only treason from a very narrow circle of people! Or steal, steal a working device, but there, too, seriously everything is protected.

        The authentication system uses a cryptographic algorithm with a private key of temporary strength. The security level of any cryptographic product is determined exclusively by the key length. That's why. when at the end of the 80s the countries of the former Warsaw Pact began to transfer the Soviet systems of state identification Password to the Americans, those could only shrug their shoulders, and the password systems are still in service. Here, a special "thank you" must be said to Bilenko, who in 1976 gave a serious impetus to Soviet mathematicians to develop guaranteed protection algorithms and introduce them into a new identification system.
        1. +3
          9 January 2019 19: 13
          Quote: scientist
          The recognition system uses a cryptographic algorithm with a private key of temporary strength.

          It’s familiar when I worked on the topic ..... I wasn’t a traffic controller.
          It's just funny to listen to all sorts of different fantasies on the topic. If everything was simple, it would have been scanned and decrypted for a long time !!! It is transmitted in a secret beam, everything and everything is intercepted on the air!
  19. 0
    9 January 2019 18: 07
    ... And at the same time let them send greetings from Gulen to Taipych.
  20. 0
    9 January 2019 18: 19
    It’s just that everyone will quickly understand that for the C 400 F 35 we don’t even see it, and then what? The United States will have to send a group of Kashpirs to Turkey to make it clear that you can’t believe it with your own eyes!
  21. +1
    9 January 2019 18: 30
    Washington will send a delegation to Turkey to clarify the concerns of the US administration
    Maybe this is a formality, but the administration, especially the American one, cannot have anything to do with the military-technical problem of supplying S-400 to Turkey. All American fears are associated exclusively with the methods of aggressive marketing policy to impose "invisible" on their NATO partners. On the other hand, the S-400 does indeed pose a threat to the F-35s that have already been delivered to Israel, especially in terms of attempts to blackmail a surprise strike on Turkish nuclear facilities.
  22. -1
    9 January 2019 18: 49
    They are afraid of pndos that they will be exposed by little giving gamnostels
  23. 0
    9 January 2019 19: 00
    Experts will come and explain to the Turks that the S-400 is very dangerous to Turkey laughing
  24. +1
    9 January 2019 19: 22
    Erdogan has been looking for a pain point in the United States for a long time and it seems that he realized that Turkey itself is the main priority in the area for the Americans. Now he will twist ropes from them until his "next revolutionaries" are put up against the wall ........ ..........
  25. +3
    9 January 2019 20: 15
    According to Demir, the main concerns of the Americans are related to the safety of F-35 fighters, the delivery of which is expected by the Turkish military.
    Obviously, mattresses believe that the S-400s have AI and at the quantum level, at the sight of the F-35 they will independently start and shoot down the F-35.
  26. +4
    9 January 2019 20: 33
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Yes, what are the explanations ?! They will come to bargain one to another ... For money and political gesheft .. I do not exclude the possibility that the Turks will refuse from 400oks. Well, figs with them, the main thing is that they do not require a deposit back.

    What is this business. He gave a deposit, refused and did not demand a deposit. Of course, some "minuses" in this case for the Turks are probably foreseen, but if they paid for half, we like it or not, and most of this half we will probably have to return

    Quote: watchmaker
    Just quickly everyone will understand that for the C 400 F 35 we don’t see it that much

    Guys! Well, maybe enough to fantasize about visibility or invisibility ??? Technology itself STELS means LOW FINE. Not INVISIBLE, LOW FINE... Well, there are no invisible objects in nature. Maybe someday it will be possible by placing an object inside some kind of cocoon-field and achieve invisibility: visual and radar, but not now and "not in our area" (c)

    Therefore, it is not worth talking about whether or not the S-400 system will see American F-35 aircraft. Of course it will. And this and the older ones. The question is how far she will see her and what will be the detection range depending on the angle... And these American "invisibles", as they like to call them, are also fixed by older complexes. The only difference from a normal plane is that a normal plane can be seen, for example, from a distance of 200 km, and an "invisible" one from a distance of 80 km. That's all

    Quote: Hypersound
    They are afraid of pndos that they will be exposed by little giving gamnostels

    What about a gamnostels called SU-57? Or the main thing is to settle down and show your hatred of the Americans in order to earn another plus sign for your cheers-patriotic post? I must be sorry, so dumb, so as not to understand all the pros and cons STEALSand. This theory is ours, it was our scientist who suggested it. The Americans have implemented, already on the fourth type of machine. We are trying to do it for the first time. So, since the enemy did it, then he has all the shit, and we have "unparalleled" ?? Maybe you should behave like an adult and on such a resource as MILITARY REVIEW not only to lull, but also to write thoughtful, normal posts. And you do not succeed. Hooray-patriotic - easily. But serious posts, with analysis - are not observed. This is probably why in the section ARMAMENT, where you need to know, and not to curry you and you can’t see, I don’t put a minus to you because of the principle. You speak for your posts for yourself
  27. +1
    9 January 2019 20: 35
    And that no one went through the comments on the proposal in the article (the refusal of the United States to provide patriot technology) is it possible that the essence of the graters? Turks for air defense ask for production technology, perhaps only missiles, they don’t give and ours are more accommodating because it’s interesting to run around air defense missiles on real f35. Well, this version also has a place.
  28. +1
    9 January 2019 21: 44
    Touching some comments, which is more of an article. And it’s not too lazy to explain to us astray how we are wrong.
  29. 0
    10 January 2019 06: 12
    They need blood from the nose to inhale their patriots.
  30. 0
    10 January 2019 18: 28
    The Americans will not be able to cover Turkey seamlessly. with their puppets from the air - the danger to the US is number 2. And the danger to the US is number 1 - this is the loss of money to the American military-industrial complex from a contract that they miss. The Turks on the first point do not lose anything, but on the second only win, because nat wins. Turkey’s security and defense. It has long been clear to everyone that the United States from across the ocean is engaged in pitting countries and peoples of Eurasia. The last 70 years for sure. They lose everything in Eurasia from this game, only the USA is the winner. Russia realized this through its own bitter experience in the Yeltsin-Gaidar period of the destruction of Russia.
  31. 0
    11 January 2019 14: 39
    Washington will send a delegation to Turkey to clarify the concerns of the US administration regarding the purchase of C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in Russia

    Pind-wasps are afraid that our S-400s will "copy" the characteristics of FU 35. And naturally, the whole truth about the colossal "invisibility" of this premature "pepelatsa" will become known. And if so, the Turks will refuse to purchase this "lame". Plus, the desire of amers to "sell" their air defense systems to the Turks is also not excluded.
    There is one more assumption: since the Pind-Wasps have already tried to arrange a "mess" with the Turks with a military coup, it means they can try again, and the presence of the S-400 at the Turks will seriously complicate this task, if not nullify it.

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