Humiliation in Ankara. "Unacceptable" Bolton

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Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan publicly reprimanded the United States National Security Advisor to the President John Bolton on the day of his visit to Turkey, calling his position on the situation in northern Syria unacceptable.





“Bolton makes a big mistake, his statement is unacceptable. Terrorist organizations do not represent the Kurds. Those who spread lies that Turkey is killing Kurds in Syria are trying to play on the moods of the world community, ”said Erdogan, speaking before the parliamentary faction of the ruling Justice and Development Party.

Earlier, Bolton said that the timing of the withdrawal of American troops from Syria depends on the elimination of the remaining militants of the terrorist group IG in Georgia banned in Russia and ensuring the security of the Kurdish self-defense forces.

According to him, the United States insists on ensuring the security of the Kurdish Self-Defense Units (YPG), which are allies of Washington, against possible actions by Turkey.

Humiliation in Ankara. "Unacceptable" Bolton


The Turkish head also added that Turkey "will soon move to decisive actions to neutralize the terrorists in Syria." Recall that the PKK (Workers Party of Kurdistan) and its affiliated YPG are considered terrorist organizations in Turkey.

In addition to this statement, which in America has already rated as offensive, the head of Turkey refused to meet with Bolton, who is leaving Turkey, without meeting with its president, which was undoubtedly one of the goals of this visit. And a preliminary agreement was reached on this meeting.

The theme of the failed meeting, as it is not difficult to understand, was to be a discussion of the situation in Syria after the decision by the US President to withdraw the troops from the Arab Republic.

But unexpectedly for the American side, Erdogan refused to talk with Bolton, referring to employment in connection with the solution of more important issues for him in the context of the upcoming local elections in Turkey.



To achieve the most humiliating effect for the American visitor, the status of the Turkish delegation was underlined by the rank of officials represented in it: Deputy Foreign Minister Sedat Onal, Deputy Defense Minister Yunus Emre Karaosmanoglu, Deputy Head of the National Intelligence Organization Jemalettin Chelik. Moreover, the Turkish Turkish presidential spokesman Ibrahim Kalyn headed the group of “Turkish comrades,” which also unequivocally determined Ankara’s attitude towards these negotiations.



The meeting took place in the presidential complex behind closed doors and lasted 2 hours 10 minutes. On the American side, in addition to Bolton, Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, Special Representative of the State Department for Syria James Jeffrey and others took part in it. According to insider data, there was no “breakthrough” at the negotiations, and no convergence of positions was noted. However, it would be strange to expect, with such initial data, to achieve any result.

According to American sources, the adviser to Donald Trump was leaving Turkey literally furious. And from his intention to respond to public humiliation with the response demarche, he was kept only by the need to preserve the possibility of further contacts and space for political maneuvers.

What is the reason for such demonstrative actions of Erdogan?



The fact is that earlier, during his meeting with his American counterpart on the margins of the G-20 summit in Buenos Aires, and then during a whole series of telephone conversations, quite specific agreements were reached on Northern Syria involving the evacuation of the American military contingent from this area and the transfer of "responsibility for what is happening there" to Turkey. Kurdish armed forces (YPG) actually remained outside the scope of these agreements.

Trump announced that the USA had destroyed the IS (with possible "relapses" Turkey will solve the problems), and there is nothing more for the Americans to do. That is, the host of the White House was clearly not planning to arrange the further fate of the Kurdish separatists.

If we consider the issue from a purely pragmatic point of view, he acted quite logically. The situation with the support of the separatist aspirations of part of the Kurds (and, in fact, this was occupied by the American contingent) came to a standstill and had no prospects for development. In addition, its development has consistently turned one of the most important American allies into an enemy.

By withdrawing the contingent from the north of Syria, Washington not only does not lose influence in the region (military bases provide bases in neighboring countries), but also gains a certain freedom of maneuver. At the same time, there is hope that the clash in the north of Syria of the interests of Turkey, Iran and Russia may lead to the disintegration of this situational alliance.

However, this logic was not accepted by a significant part of Trump's entourage, primarily by those who are most closely associated with Israel. As you know, Tel Aviv has greatly troubled Trump’s decision, since the Jewish state sees the Kurds as an important tool against Iran, Syria and Turkey.



Be that as it may, Trump’s entourage is making serious efforts to replay his agreements with Erdogan. That, in fact, was the goal of Bolton's blitz visit to Ankara.

However, Erdogan didn’t want to discuss with the American guest the revision of the agreements reached, especially since he understood perfectly well that there could be concessions in the proposed “dialogue” only from the Turkish side.

And since he is not going to provide security for YPG at all (and Bolton intended to achieve this), he didn’t meet with the adviser to the American president.



When Erdogan explained the refusal of personal participation in the negotiations with the preparation for the elections, he didn’t give a shit. Strictly speaking, he could easily meet with the American guest and talk to him "about nothing" without a demarche so spectacular and humiliating for the USA. But he chose just such a path, which, undoubtedly, would be highly appreciated by his compatriots - as a sign of Turkish power. When its leader is not afraid to put in place presumptuous Americans. Such steps invariably provide the Turkish leader with a high rating and broad support. A practical politician, he did not fail to use Bolton’s visit for election campaigning.
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  1. +13
    9 January 2019 05: 48
    At the same time, there is hope that a clash in the interests of Turkey, Iran and Russia in the north of Syria could lead to the collapse of this situational alliance.

    The US State Department is dreaming about it ... it would be good for him if Russia got involved in a fight with Turkey, Israel, and other states in this region ... so we need to remain calm in any situation and not give in to provocations ... heh heh how this is done on our forum by some too smart and arrogant guys. smile
    Turks firmly defend their line by all means and methods ... this is an example of how to fight for your interests.
    1. -4
      9 January 2019 07: 07
      Besides this statement, which in America has already been rated as offensive, Turkish leader refuses to meet with Boltonwho leaves Turkey without meeting with its president
      adviser to Donald trump literally left Turkey furious

      Whether Bolton’s case came to Moscow now! Adopted at the highest level! Honorably and with joy.

      When Erdogan motivated the refusal of personal participation in the negotiations ... he did not at all flinch.

      No doubt.
      1. +6
        9 January 2019 09: 05
        . Whether Bolton’s case came to Moscow now! Adopted at the highest level! Honorably and with joy.

        So maybe Bolton came with a "bow" wassat
        Why not meet
        1. -2
          9 January 2019 09: 15
          Quote: igorbrsv
          So maybe Bolton came with a "bow" wassat
          Why not meet

          Really! Well, why not meet an ardent Russophobe, if we open monuments to Solzhenitsyn and Yeltsin! After all, Bolton, with all his hatred of Russia, is unlikely to have done worse.
          But the Turks are guys simple - if you do not like it, then they can bring down the plane.
          “Bolton came with nothing. He was received in Moscow at the highest level. He was given the honor shown to the heads of state. But he brought nothing to Moscow. And we don’t see any positive after his visit, ”said Vladimir Yermakov, director of the non-proliferation and arms control department of the Russian Foreign Ministry.
      2. +18
        9 January 2019 09: 07
        Why should we beat a strong enemy when others do it for us? It’s even honorable from Russia — after all, an equal opponent crashed. And from the Turks it is unexpected and extremely painful. And it shows the most serious changes in the world. The United States has lost the integrity of its physiognomy! They can be smeared according to the image and after that proudly walk, springing chest. Most likely, Erdogan will still have to answer for the perfect, but still, all the same!
        That's what it means to get involved in a war and not be able to look convincing in it. You can lose the war, but so that everyone sees - you are a serious fighter. And in Syria there was a very, very miserable sight, despite the avalanche of bombs and clouds of drones. And tricks with multi-colored helmets also showed themselves extremely sorry (which, of course, was a huge surprise for Washington manipulators) Well, here are the results ...
        1. +8
          9 January 2019 09: 39
          I agree. Moreover, the United States received a slap in the face from its alliance ally
        2. +3
          10 January 2019 01: 39
          You do not explain it to them. They don’t understand.
        3. +2
          10 January 2019 08: 32
          Turkey, like Russia, is a country with an imperial past. This is not a second grade country. In Europe, they have the largest army and are not afraid to use it.
      3. +2
        10 January 2019 01: 37
        Whether the case is Stas157th. I read an article and commented on your serpentarium. One to one. Is there not enough mind on the other?
      4. +2
        10 January 2019 22: 19
        Alas, they do not know how (they don’t want) to put so boldly Americans into place.
    2. -6
      9 January 2019 21: 58
      They do not defend anything. Erdogan has no lines, like a gay he has no red lines at all. He breaks his forehead to where there is a weakness. Everyone will throw him away when you get tired
  2. +18
    9 January 2019 06: 04
    Strictly speaking, he could very well have met with the American guest and talked to him “about nothing” without such a spectacular and humiliating demarche for the USA.
    ... held out Erdogan Merikatos on the battery with a face ... laughing
    1. +1
      9 January 2019 06: 14
      I ask you to consider my post below as an answer to yours.
    2. +7
      9 January 2019 06: 20
      Quote: aszzz888
      ... held out Erdogan Merikatos on the battery with a face ..

      Bolton, like that Chatterbox, was blabbering.
      “Bolton makes a big mistake, his statement is unacceptable. Terrorist organizations do not represent Kurds. Those who spread the lie that Turkey is killing Kurds in Syria are trying to play on the mood of the international community, ”Erdogan said.

      How is this to argue with the Great Sultan. And he decided ...
      In order to achieve the most humiliating effect for the American visitor, the status of the Turkish delegation was underlined by the rank

      Bolton decided to decide everything is American, that is, in favor of the USA, but the East is a delicate matter ..... hi
      1. 0
        9 January 2019 06: 40
        Not at all ... Bolton is contrary to American interests in the BV.
        1. +2
          9 January 2019 06: 55

          mirag2 (Alexander) Today, 06: 40 NEW
          0
          Not at all ... Bolton is contrary to American interests in the BV.


          ... the answer is accepted! ... wink ... and as far as who goes "against", neither I nor you know the true relationship in fascington, we draw only from the media ...
          1. 0
            9 January 2019 06: 59
            aszzz888 Sorry, this one came later, I meant this: "Here's what's interesting: the KSA, the UAE and Egypt have conspired with Israel to bring Bashar al-Assad back to the Arab League in order to neutralize the influence of Turkey and Iran (???). And the states said that "Turkey's strike on the Kurds is tantamount to striking the United States." The key here is whether the Jews were able to influence Bolton during his visit to Israel. More precisely: what consequences did Tel Aviv threaten Trump with inside the United States? "
            - That is, how far can Bolton go in putting pressure on Erdogan? Do not forget that the Turkish economy is now very tense. And for Erdogan, for "complete happiness" only larger-scale military actions are not enough.
      2. 0
        9 January 2019 06: 57

        Evdokim (Yuri) Today, 06: 20 Bolton decided to solve everything in an American way, that is, in favor of USA, but the East is a delicate matter.....hi

        ... and where it is thin, there it breaks ... so this "East" can come out sideways for him ... hi
      3. +1
        9 January 2019 22: 25
        Bolton is one of the few old men from the old, very vicious team of Washington villains. For him, Erdogan is like a pubic louse laying unwashed, hairy legs on a table in a library. We don’t know where the Turk hides stolen goods and the West knows for sure
    3. +6
      9 January 2019 06: 22
      The duel of the Turkish Janissary with the American cowboy ended with the victory of the Janissary ... 1: 0 ... what a pain ... what a pain. smileTurkey: USA ... 1: 0.
      1. +2
        9 January 2019 06: 39
        ))) What kind of victory can we talk about if the "match" ONLY BEGINNED?
        1. +5
          9 January 2019 06: 40
          Anyway, in the second half I bet on the Janissaries ... but if a cowboy instead of a Colt donkey with gold drags the situation could change.
          1. +5
            9 January 2019 06: 42
            I would also like Erdogan to celebrate Victoria.
            1. +4
              9 January 2019 07: 06
              Quote: mirag2
              I would also like Erdogan to celebrate Victoria.

              Better let it be by zeros, otherwise the Sultan imagines himself Tamerlan. hi
              1. +3
                9 January 2019 07: 10
                There will be no zeros. Not the situation and not there, which would have been at zero. And the great Turk, just not Tamerlane, but Suleiman (1st, Magnificent) -Erdogan already imagines himself.
        2. +4
          9 January 2019 12: 49
          Quote: mirag2
          ))) What kind of victory can we talk about if the "match" ONLY BEGINNED?

          Yes, no, my friend, the game was almost played out and all that remained was to put a good candelabra on the head of the American sharpler, who, understanding that Syria was essentially a toxic asset for him, did not lose hope that this asset would be sold at a higher price. Erdogan is well aware that the mattresses were blown away, and therefore paid Bolton the attention exactly as much as he deserves. No, the USA will not stop crap, but they will no longer be able to radically change the situation in Syria.
          1. 0
            10 January 2019 12: 50
            No one will attach a sharpie to any candelabra. He is stuck there, and cannot leave of his own free will ...
            ps I envy such indestructible and comprehensive optimism!
  3. +4
    9 January 2019 06: 06
    Although I do not trust the Turks, but they wiped amers cool! The surname of the deputy foreign minister (Onal) is very ambiguous in this context.
    1. +2
      9 January 2019 07: 39
      This is for you, and Bolton, maybe a normal last name.
    2. 0
      9 January 2019 11: 11
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Although I do not trust the Turks, but they wiped amers cool! The surname of the deputy foreign minister (Onal) is very ambiguous in this context.

      Deputy Minister of Defense Yunus Emre Karaosmanoglu,

      The son of the Black Ottoman translated the last name of the dude.
    3. 0
      10 January 2019 10: 36
      In fact, the name Önal, the first letter is distorted. And so I can remember many names that are more meaningful and fun in addition wink
  4. +2
    9 January 2019 06: 13
    Here's what's interesting: the KSA, the UAE and Egypt have conspired with Israel to bring Bashar al-Assad back to the Arab League in order to neutralize the influence of Turkey and Iran (???). And the states said that "Turkey's strike on the Kurds is tantamount to a strike on USA ". The key here is whether the Jews were able to influence Bolton during his visit to Israel. More precisely: what consequences Tel Aviv threatened Trump with inside the United States?
  5. +6
    9 January 2019 06: 44
    The most at war with ISIS in the military alliance is Turkey ... They have determined for themselves who is a terrorist for them and who is not ... Terrorists who adhere to their pro-Turkish orientation, such as the Turkomans who are fighting against Assad, the same SAA , which quickly changed shoes, leaving under the wing of Turkey. The Kurds bought into the promises of the United States that they would become independent and military support .. And now, this is where the "tachanki" turn, the government of Syria does not promise autonomy, it still needs to be earned, on the other hand Americans who convince them that they will not abandon their "friends."
    Those who spread the lie that Turkey is killing Kurds in Syria are trying to play on the mood of the international community, ”Erdogan said.
    ..About the same thing, the Turkish authorities spoke 103 years ago when they carried out the genocide of the Armenians ... Yes, they are talking about those events now .. But Bolton, of course, was drowned, they promised to surrender the Kurds, so keep your word and there’s nothing here, understand .. .to win back ..
    1. 0
      26 January 2019 12: 16
      There was no "genocide" of Armenians. You are talking about cases that have not been proven and have no court decision. You joined the wave of slander, not knowing this topic, or deliberately distorting it.
  6. +8
    9 January 2019 06: 47
    statements that America has already rated as abusive
    In the photo, judging by his face, Bolton is outraged: "I am a citizen of the United States and, moreover, not a simple one, and you did not show me the respect and respect I deserve." Personally, I welcome it when American arrogance is framed and made clear that in a sovereign country it is not worth dictating what to do and how to do it.
  7. +2
    9 January 2019 10: 19
    The Kurds again set the wrong ones ...
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  9. +1
    9 January 2019 11: 21
    It is high time to put the Boltons in their place, all of us are playing in democracy, and then they are surprised that they are being thrown.
  10. +2
    9 January 2019 11: 25
    Normally, so the Sultanishko bolton knocked down)))
  11. +1
    9 January 2019 11: 39
    Erdogan YOUNG !!!!! Unlike ours !!! Smeared Bolton !! Respect and respect for the Turks. Learn Putin and Lavrov.
  12. +1
    9 January 2019 11: 55
    The production, that’s how it looks, if you look closely ...
  13. +2
    9 January 2019 20: 16
    Bolton, got a bolt from Turkey .. So with them Erdogan is needed!
    Everyone senses themselves as "world gendarmes" ..

    Is that familiar? bully
  14. -1
    10 January 2019 00: 04
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Most likely, Erdogan will still have to answer for the perfect, but still, all the same!

    S-400 and the normal work of Turkish counterintelligence - so the cancer will whistle on the mountain, and three more American preziks will be replaced while Erdogan "answers." Unless they quarrel with Russia. And then we have historically supported the Kurds, and we can return to this at any time, they will only be happy.
  15. 0
    10 January 2019 10: 23
    I would put +, but
    [/ quote] he did not fail to use Bolton’s visit for campaigning. [quote]
    prevented ...
  16. 0
    10 January 2019 10: 45
    Quote: faterdom
    Quote: Mikhail3
    Most likely, Erdogan will still have to answer for the perfect, but still, all the same!

    S-400 and the normal work of Turkish counterintelligence - so the cancer will whistle on the mountain, and three more American preziks will be replaced while Erdogan "answers." Unless they quarrel with Russia. And then we have historically supported the Kurds, and we can return to this at any time, they will only be happy.

    I do not think that Russia will begin to support the Kurds ever. If the Turk of Russia (I will not list, the list is long) will start supporting Turkey, then it will not seem enough)))
    1. -3
      10 January 2019 18: 18
      And Turkey has already supported, and continues to do so. From Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Georgia to the Tatars, Caucasian peoples, Crimean Tatars. During both Chechen campaigns, Turkish intelligence in uncontrolled areas worked most actively.
      So, it will be necessary - we will support the Kurds, do not hesitate. Naturally, not pro-American, Barzany of all kinds. We’ll do Odzholan new and help him with anti-tank and anti-air weapons.
      Why not? To be honest, Turkey is not pro-American, outside of NATO. But if anything - the division of the Ottoman Empire is not over yet, and the current borders, as we see, do not suit anyone.
      Explain if OUR interests require - why not?
      1. +1
        11 January 2019 12: 59
        And you try)) I assure you, then whining will not help!

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