US Senate questioned F-35 fighter

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The US Senate Armed Services Committee has questioned the quality of the Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter, claiming “potentially serious problems” with the aircraft’s electronic systems.

"The committee ... is concerned about the build quality and whether it is sufficient to supply F-35 to the United States and its allies at an affordable price," the report accompanying the US defense budget for 2013 was said.

Italy has already reduced its order for this aircraft, fewer F-35 aircraft intend to buy other countries. Japan warned that it may cancel its order if the cost of one aircraft increases in relation to the stated price.

The committee called on Lockheed Martin, the aircraft manufacturer, to strengthen product quality control, as “lack of attention to quality” has already led to problems with fighter electronic systems, which causes a decrease in the aircraft’s military capabilities.

Lockheed Martin has already hired 200 temporary workers to keep the production of F-16 and F-35 up to par. The company's management said that the new staff is well prepared, but given the doubts of the union officials, Lockheed does not guarantee the preservation of jobs for less skilled workers, reports Defense Aerospace.
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  1. +20
    9 2012 June
    Oh .. and here is the gift for the day of Russia from the US Senate! Well, then there is something to be doubted if a number of states of direct allies suspended or even refused to buy such a golden and useless toy.
    1. +12
      9 2012 June
      There are rumors in the media that they are creating an 6 generation aircraft, I wonder how much it will bring problems and what will be the cost.
      1. +11
        9 2012 June
        Quote: RedDragoN
        what oi create a 6th generation airplane


        They are the 5th generation that they can’t finish normally. Pilots suffocate and lose consciousness. In the 6th generation of pilots will it break at all?
        1. +8
          9 2012 June
          Quote: RedDragoN

          There are rumors in the media that they are creating a 6 generation aircraft

          Its cost will be equal to the cost of computer graphics and the designer's salary. The creation of the 6th generation sounds to the Yankees like "Give me a denyuska, otherwise the passion is how to cut it out"
          1. +9
            9 2012 June
            Quote: Steam Train
            "Give me a denyuska, otherwise the passion is how to cut it."

            Zhenya, I thought a little here and came to the conclusion that this Gold National Award of Russia "FOR Saw the Budget";
            it’s just necessary to transfer it to the US Senate for subsequent delivery to the officials of the American military-industrial complex. They deserve her in a fair fight !!!
            1. +9
              9 2012 June
              Vitya, I hope that it will be chocolate in gold (do you remember such coins sold before?) But I don’t want to replenish Amov’s gold supply laughing
              1. +10
                9 2012 June
                Quote: Steam Train
                Vitya, I hope it will be chocolate in gold

                Well, so it’s natural, and not chocolate in foil, but lollipops (there were some), chocolate will be too gorgeous. drinks
            2. Sehiru san
              0
              10 2012 June
              I stole the picture. Do not blame me. smile Not ripe of course, just come in handy. laughing
      2. Trofimov174
        +9
        9 2012 June
        Rumors are rumors, but Boeing has turned off a program to develop engines for the modernization of the F-22 and 6th generation aircraft for lack of funds.
        1. +10
          9 2012 June
          Quote: Trofimov174
          but Boeing curtailed its engine development program for the modernization of the F-22 and 6-generation aircraft for lack of funds.

          Well, then the prize was awarded to whom it was addressed!
          1. 755962
            +5
            9 2012 June
            Not a plane, but a complete misunderstanding.
            The US Department of Defense's Performance Testing and Evaluation Office (DOTE) released a report on the technical flaws of the promising Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II fighter, Defense News reported. Among the shortcomings were poor handling of the fighter, unstable operation of avionics, problems with afterburner and helmet-mounted information displays.

            In particular, when testing variants of a fighter with a conventional takeoff (F-35A CTOL) and with a short takeoff and vertical landing (F-35B STOVL), there were noted "stalling of the flow from the wing during transonic flight and more than expected lateral slip at medium angles of attack" ... The report also notes that some components of the aircraft were found to be less reliable than specified in the technical documentation.

            In addition, during the flight of the F-35 with the Pratt & Whitney F135 engine on the afterburner, the instability of air flow in the afterburner was recorded, which caused a noticeable vibration. In addition, with the described defect, the engine was unable to reach full thrust with afterburner on. Due to this issue, Lockheed Martin, the creator of the F-35, was forced to postpone several tests.
            1. +8
              9 2012 June
              Quote: 755962
              Not a plane, but a complete misunderstanding.

              Eugene, not the right word, Misunderstanding is also in how it is possible to put together such a "maize" for such grandmothers? Our "sawers" smoke ......
              1. Aleksey67
                +6
                9 2012 June
                Quote: Tersky
                Misunderstanding is also in how it is possible to put together such a "maize" for such grandmother?

                They created the Raptor, scare us,
                But only your fears are aces,
                Sell ​​to your allies,
                And then pi ... sy
                drinks
                1. 755962
                  +6
                  9 2012 June
                  Alexey, no words, soon it will be possible to exhibit a selection of your "defiles". Sharp, exactly, always 100% hit. This is especially evident on the "mosaic". drinks laughing
                  1. Aleksey67
                    +5
                    9 2012 June
                    Quote: 755962
                    soon it will be possible to exhibit a selection of your "defile". Sharp, exactly, always 100% hit. This is especially evident on the "mosaic".

                    Thank you, but I still have to study and study before Stas (Tatanka Yotanka) laughing Here is Stas that talent, I'm so-so, amateur winked
                    1. +5
                      9 2012 June
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      Here is Stas that talent, I'm so-so, amateur

                      Lesha, I love self-critical people drinks but don’t underestimate yourself to the same degree No. . Talent, as they say, you will not drink good !
                      1. Aleksey67
                        +3
                        9 2012 June
                        Quote: Tersky
                        but don’t underestimate yourself to the same degree

                        Vit, I’m not asking for compliments ... Thank you for your support, but it's true. I love poems from childhood, in the form of ditties and vulgar laughing I know a lot, but God himself did not give, alas ... recourse
                        From a beloved (not mine), that ladies like a glass:

                        There used to be time, time is golden
                        Confused many women with their own wife,
                        And now it’s not so, I don’t risk it anymore,
                        I stepped on the throat of my own x ... y
                        drinks
      3. Neighbor
        +2
        9 2012 June
        Quote: RedDragoN
        that they create a 6th generation airplane

        Well, yes - unmanned. You see - what's the matter here - the pilots refuse to fly for the 5th generation, so they decided to remove them! - there will be a super-duper drone - any Russian radio-electronic defense station of even Soviet models will plant it as a "native" on its runways. You don't even need to shoot !!! - no pilot - no problem !!! In Iran, they know it for sure! Soviet station of the 80s - the newest Amersky super-duper secret drone got fucked in all the nozzles !!! belay
        G .. - it is - G .... !!! laughing
        But not so long ago, quite a few orange-colored ones ...... - they claimed here that the Amer F-35 was cooler than our T-50 !!! wassat
        I immediately said - that it is ...... nya complete. Yes
        And he was right. If the Amer pilots - refuse to fly on it - WHAT AT ALL can be discussed. His place in the dump !!! laughing
        Personally, Putin spoke and compared both fighters - our STILL times at least 1,5 times - even in terms of TX - not to mention reliability !!! drinks
        Italy - Japan - come to your senses - in general it is r ..... do not buy!
        Pity your pilots !!! crying and their families !!!
        ALSO - WHERE DO YOU GO !!! belay sad - This is Nata. This is a complete sucks !!! wassat
  2. Endrels
    +10
    9 2012 June
    That's right, they refuse, soon PAK FA will arrive drinks
  3. +9
    9 2012 June
    The Senate doubted, and for a long time I was sure, bullshit! It is necessary for the Senate to open about F. 22's eyes.
    1. +8
      9 2012 June
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      The Senate doubted, and for a long time I was sure, bullshit!

      Sasha, what is the F-35, such and the Senate, ignition later ...
    2. scrack
      +4
      9 2012 June
      What is the matter with him?
      1. +6
        9 2012 June
        he is 13 behind the F-35.
        by numbers.
        1. scrack
          0
          9 2012 June
          I think they will soon begin a strong crisis in the military aviation field. Old F-15 / 16s have long been built and they will be discarded, but they can’t see a replacement
  4. +10
    9 2012 June
    Wow ! And as you guessed, the Americans! Yes, so fast !!!!!!!! laughing
    1. Yurich
      +6
      9 2012 June
      Yes, it was impossible before! US defense budget sawed off!

      bully
    2. David Lynch
      0
      9 2012 June
      Good afternoon, dear Maxim. I can not write to you in PM, because you have a full mailbox.
  5. Skiff
    +6
    9 2012 June
    Yes, what problems, gentlemen of the bourgeoisie doubted as a child prodigy, so take PAKFA from us wassat
    1. mitya
      0
      9 2012 June
      Will manage !!
    2. mitya
      +14
      9 2012 June
      They will manage, it’s better for us to come to them at PAK FA for a visit and with full ammunition
      1. Sehiru san
        +1
        10 2012 June
        :
        They will manage, it’s better for us to come to them at PAK FA for a visit and with full ammunition

        "Hackers hacked into the T-50 onboard computer and now its ammunition load is endless ...": laughing
    3. +9
      9 2012 June
      Here they are FIG and not T50. Can they also sell the Club to Iskander and С400 С500? Caught nefig, Let them fly on their threshing floor.
      1. +10
        9 2012 June
        Quote: Steam Train
        Club to sell both Iskander and С400 С500

        Zhenya, why not? If you send it on your own .. wassat
        1. +8
          9 2012 June
          Well, you’re good Victor today. Although if under your own power then let our hawks fly. The main thing is that then we should not be asked to sell our Homeland drinks
          1. +7
            9 2012 June
            Quote: Steam Train
            Well, you are good today

            well, so "good" "friend" and the last shirt do not mind, if only he felt good .. Yes
    4. Arc76
      -9
      9 2012 June
      Which is not yet. This son is fiction, so in advertising then.
      1. +5
        9 2012 June
        Quote: arc76

        Which is not yet. This son is fiction, so in advertising then.

        Red, you are bluffing!
        1. Arc76
          -9
          9 2012 June
          It’s you who bluffs green, because you are trying to pass off as reality what is not.
          Remind me how many fifth generation fighters in the series?
          1. +6
            9 2012 June
            Quote: arc76
            Remind me how many fifth generation fighters in the series?


            Serial production of the aircraft is planned for 2015. In 2013, small-scale production of this type of aircraft for arms testing should begin, but it began already in 2012.
            I want to note that the plane proved itself to be excellent in testing. And at the same time it surpasses the F35. God willing, by 2014 we will already have several such aircraft. Now there are 2-3 prototypes.
            1. Arc76
              -3
              10 2012 June
              So how many have already been built in the series, or, what will happen again, is it planned, etc., etc.?
  6. +8
    9 2012 June
    not really climbed on Russian forums ???
  7. +11
    9 2012 June
    The influx of brains is over. but without them it turns out that planes do not fly
    1. +5
      9 2012 June
      Will the outflow begin now?
      1. +5
        9 2012 June
        Quote: baron.nn
        Will the outflow begin now?

        Aha Yes , if they are.. No. . and so what are honed. winked ..
    2. BAT
      +8
      9 2012 June
      What can you do ... A crisis, it is a crisis everywhere. Though in Africa, even in Europe, even in the United States ... So I got to them. There is no dough, brains are leaking, planes do not fly ... But this is only the beginning. The most fun and they are yet to come.
      1. +9
        9 2012 June
        Quote: sichevik
        There’s no money, brains flow away, planes don’t fly ..

        aircraft carriers are on fire, boats are on fire, they are shooting in Afghanistan. Costs are being cut, demonstrators are on strike Something similar to mine has already happened in history. Isn’t it time to express concern about American nuclear weapons. God forbid the terrorists get. Inspections must be created.
        1. +8
          9 2012 June
          Quote: vorobey
          Inspections must be created.

          No, as we were offered at 90. "You cannot ensure proper safety, saw or send us for recycling"
  8. +8
    9 2012 June
    Sasha sparrow hello, with a victory! Your comment is finally in color. Plus a plus.
    1. +9
      9 2012 June
      Hi Sanya. Yesterday I got pleasure from football. Probably real boys from hockey hockey held political information, educational conversations. Well, judging by the hockey score.
  9. +8
    9 2012 June
    The financial pyramid called F-35 is nearing the end of its promotion. An interesting next project is a sixth or seventh generation fighter, with or without a pilot, a space fighter or only in the stratosphere.
    So far, in my opinion, there is no concept of a new aircraft in the world, and all that is is only a deep modernization of old concepts.
  10. itr
    +5
    9 2012 June
    less skilled workers who is this ???
    1. +5
      9 2012 June
      These are - Bring-Give, Went on - Don’t interfere. and the news is really interesting. if they would officially close this program ...
  11. scrack
    +7
    9 2012 June
    It's time to throw them in the landfill and invisibility, and then show off more than good
  12. qwz_qwz
    +6
    9 2012 June
    Somehow they started with the F-35 not childishly, the program for its creation had to be turned off a long time ago, and they all pull the cat to a known place ... although it’s profitable for us, from a logical point of view, they already burned money which could be purchased by hundreds of new F-18s or something else ... and now they’ll officially recognize the failure of the project - they’ll fall into the hands of the distribution ....))) that’s not far ...))
  13. +5
    9 2012 June
    Yes, it’s already necessary to write off this F35 with raptor! Tired already ...
  14. +14
    9 2012 June
    I could not resist!
    1. +26
      9 2012 June
      Quote: SrgSoap

      I could not resist!


      In the US Air Force, pilots and mechanics often communicate via logbook entries. After the flight, the pilot records the detected faults, the mechanic responds to them and makes a record of the work done.
      Sometimes it looks something like this ...
      Request: The left inner wheel of the main chassis almost needs to be replaced.
      Answer: The left inner wheel of the main chassis is almost replaced.
      A.Z.: The test flight was ok, but the autopilot works with difficulty.
      A .: No autopilot is installed on this aircraft.
      Z .: Something is missing in the cockpit.
      A .: It is necessary to become attached.
      Z .: The autopilot in horizontal flight mode shows a decrease of 20 meters per second!
      A .: I can’t reproduce this on earth.
      Z .: Dead beetles on the windshield.
      A .: We have already ordered fresh ones.
      Z.: There are incredible noises in the headphones!
      A .: Noises are brought to more probable.
      Z .: Knock in the cockpit, as if a little man had a hammer.
      A .: A little hammer was taken from a man.
      Z .: Many flies in the cabin.
      A .: Flies are recounted - the number corresponds.
      Z .: The cockpit is dirty - it’s not good for pigs!
      A .: The cockpit is washed - suitable for pigs.
      Z.: On the dashboard, three cockroaches are seen.
      A .: One was killed, one was wounded, one managed to escape.
      Z .: Captain Evans is leaking a pipe.
      A .: No comment.

      Quote: SrgSoap

      I could not resist!

      2-th pilot Boeing-757 told the company Trans Aero. Further from his words:

      Hamburg Airport. We just landed and we drive to the terminal, behind us
      waiting for landing 4 aircraft: Lufgaz (Germany), Fidex
      (truck), British Airways (England), and late in the upper echelon late
      4 hours of IL-86 Aeroflot.

      Lufthansa's turn, but sending to x .. dispatcher our IL to save
      fuel begins to decline. Ground control service, threatening all vehicles
      earthly and realizing that everything is fucking Russian .., trying to make planes and
      skip the IL. British and Fidex have not yet entered the landing and obeying
      dispatcher miss IL. And the pilot of Lufthansa already seeing the strip enters
      skirmish with the Russians, they say kagogo x .., he is German, on a German plane, in
      native Germany, must go on the 2nd circle and miss the fucking
      Russians? Having received the answer: "Because you lost the war!", It calms down.
      And throws the phrase: "Well, there are still no Jews in the air!" What a British pilot
      in perfect English warns the German that it is "not correct",
      so about the Jews ...

      Everyone sat down safely, and an hour later they came to our relaxation room
      security officers and politely asked to go with them to
      identification, because the pilot of Lufganza who was arguing with the Russians oh ... or
      toilet, knocked out a couple of teeth, and lowered the pilot’s ID into the toilet. AND
      nobody could do it except the Russians. Oh ... whether the hero is notable ... Muzzle in
      blood, no front teeth ... But bummer, he did not recognize Aeroflot’s crew
      nobody. And the rest of the "civilized" have nothing to do with ..

      We are preparing for the departure, next to us is the same falcon from Lufthansa. As here
      without a dispatcher command in the queue for take-off (a hallmark of our
      pilots) instead of Lufthansa, a British gets up. Germans breaks through, yells
      to the dispatcher that this is not an airport, but ... that the Russians are preventing him from sitting down
      and the British take off ... What we heard with the first pilot on the frequency
      British from their crew commander, shocked us.
      In Russian, with a clear Odessa accent we heard:
      - Guys, tell this fascist, let him shut up e ... nickname. And then we
      with Fima (co-pilot) once again to him p .. we will give from all Jewish
      of the people!
      1. +10
        9 2012 June
        Thank you cheer up. Especially the logbook. I heard about British class !!!
      2. +12
        9 2012 June
        Manager-Maxim +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ mood has risen laughing good
        1. +8
          9 2012 June
          PLEASE! good drinks
          1. Aleksey67
            +7
            9 2012 June
            Maxim, you are better than Galkin drinks , though a manager smile
          2. +7
            9 2012 June
            good !!! Smiled in full !!
            1. Sehiru san
              0
              10 2012 June
              Is Tersky a surname? Or from the Terek coast? wink
        2. Darn
          +7
          9 2012 June
          The committee ... is concerned about build quality

          In how, but I thought that they only collect poorly in China. I was afraid.
      3. Nursultan
        +6
        9 2012 June
        ++++++ cool
      4. chistii20
        +3
        9 2012 June
        Manager dear Boiled water pissed while reading
        1. +5
          9 2012 June
          Not really in the subject, but I think I’ll like it)))):


          They noticed a strange Iraqi wandering through the desert in a white uniform of an unfamiliar pattern.
          The whole platoon, hiding behind the Hummers, looked at it for a long time through binoculars, trying to find the weapon, but in vain.
          It seems that having gone mad with horror, he wandered without knowing where. Out of compassion for the unfortunate, it was decided to take him to the hospital.
          The scouts quickly caught up with the lonely Iraqi and surrounded him, examining the old-fashioned faded uniform and the absolutely capless look on their American look ...
          Later, the only scout who escaped alive from this terrible massacre said that the Iraqi suicide bomber who had killed the entire vanguard of the American division repeated the strange combat mantra before the battle: - Zdravstvujte, razlubjeznaya moja Katerina Matveevna ...
          1. Sehiru san
            +2
            10 2012 June
            Zdravstvujte, razlubjeznaya moja Katerina Matveevna ...
            Good story. laughing
      5. +3
        9 2012 June
        Thanks for the high spiritsgood
      6. Sehiru san
        +2
        10 2012 June
        laughing I have already read these stories on the PAzitiFF website, but "I could not resist" laughing
        There was also a story about Antei in America ....
  15. Nechai
    +7
    9 2012 June
    Quote: Tersky
    chocolate will be too chic.

    Hint that in the end they will get it? - lollipop ..... Let them prepare to repeat the holostennoe?
    1. +4
      9 2012 June
      Quote: Nechai
      . Let them prepare to repeat the holostennoe deity?

      Valery good Well, for happiness it was laughing .... here they must be made happy. And then chocolate .....
  16. Mr. Truth
    +5
    9 2012 June
    It seems to me alone that this plane is the same "monkey model" that is created when the allies need to be armed, but you do not trust them and fear for technology and pride does not allow you to give normal weapons.
  17. +5
    9 2012 June
    US Senate questioned F-35 fighter

    this is bad for us, it would be better if they did not notice anything, and then their planes began to fall.

    but the system works fine for them, it's worth noting
  18. scrack
    +3
    9 2012 June
    I think they will soon begin a strong crisis in the military aviation field. Old F-15 / 16s have long been built and they will be discarded, but they can’t see a replacement
  19. +3
    9 2012 June
    What is it called Raptor or something. The raptors have all died out for a long time and it will die. As you call a ship, it will sail. Toli deal with us
    Su-Xnumx codification of NATO: Flanker, Flanker - eng. “Coming from the flank”,
    Su-35 (NATO codification: Flanker-E + coming from the flank and great f .....
    Su-34 (codification of NATO: Fullback - football defender. Specifically and clearly.
  20. chistii20
    +2
    9 2012 June
    The conclusion is that they don’t know how to do a damn thing. They will learn to do it when the state secretary learns to work normally through the mouth. Like Monica

    Generally not a plane No matter how you twist our better laughing
  21. +2
    9 2012 June
    Manager - thanks. Put a plus, got out three. No pity. From the bottom of my heart, thanks again. As for the F-35, there are problems that simply cannot be removed. So, as they say, "happiness" to you in flight. But I think it's too early to rejoice. And all because their colored paper is willingly supported by our powers that be. And this is not ice. Sincerely.
  22. +2
    10 2012 June
    Something doesn’t interfere with the Amerikos with airplanes, both the 4 generation and the 5 generation! Although they used to work the best minds in the world! And the thing is that the initial version of the 4 generation was not a mess.
  23. +1
    10 2012 June
    F-22 - bust, F-35 - shortage. So you look and the third are going to do ...
  24. +4
    10 2012 June
    Many thanks to the manager and SrqSoap for the story, as they say Rzhu-Nimagu, amused.
    Quote: Pilot200809
    Toli deal with us
    Su-Xnumx codification of NATO: Flanker, Flanker - eng. “Coming from the flank”,
    Su-35 (NATO codification: Flanker-E + coming from the flank and great f .....
    Su-34 (codification of NATO: Fullback - football defender. Specifically and clearly.

    So, in general, almost all weapons in our country have gentle and poetic names. There was once an article on the site on this topic. And all why? Because people are peaceful, sincere, one might say romantics who have not lost this supply, unlike "our partners" who are mired in hamburgers, cola and other ... not.

    As for the plane, I want to note that the Americans do not have such a song: "This is our job, to teach planes to fly!" After all, a good plane is like a good song. And since there is no song, then there is no plane.
    "It seems so to me!" c / f "Mimino".
    Again, they do not have such films as "Mimino", "Only old men go to battle", "Heavenly slug", "Torpedo bombers", which means that there will be no good planes.

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