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"Denationalization" of the Russian elite

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Zbigniew Brzezinski once said: “Russia can have as many nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since 500 billions of dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, will you figure it out: is it your elite or is it already ours? I do not see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential. ” In this rather accurate statement, the American political analyst and politician touched on only one way to “denationalize” the elite, and not the most important one. After all, money, in the end, and you can donate. There are other, even more efficient technologies.




In general, the subordination of a country or a people by taming its elite is a long-standing method practiced since ancient times. Thus, the ancient Greeks, who were afraid of the Scythians in panic, tried, if not to conquer them, then at least to protect their policies from their raids, by introducing their leaders to the Greek culture. However, as reported by Herodotus, if the Scythian kings began to adhere to the Greek customs, their subjects mercilessly killed them.



Much later, the Radhonite merchants subjugated the Khazaria to themselves, seizing its elite through kinship.

This method is all the more convenient because the peoples conquered in this way do not perceive what is happening as enslavement by external force - their rulers and leaders speak as they do, and they also look like, although they internally become carriers of very different values ​​and different cultures.

This method of control and enslavement was brought to near perfection by the Anglo-Saxons, who, generation after generation, are raised by the elites of the countries they conquered. In Britain, this is a whole network of private closed schools and universities, in the United States they are even more ambitious - they are preparing agents of influence not only from the number of high-class offspring, but also any people who are promising in this sense. Including on short-term courses.

"Denationalization" of the Russian elite


The son or grandson of a statesman, educated and convinced of the absoluteness of Western values, eventually becomes a high-ranking official and begins to function in accordance with these ideas. At the same time, he considers his homeland as a place if not a forced link, then a business trip.



In addition to ideological motivation, while studying for the future agent of influence, a fair selection of compromising material is collected that will allow, if necessary, to “help” him to make the right decision. In addition, children or grandchildren, students or simply living abroad, are a great tool for influencing a statesman who would be foolish not to use if necessary.

Note that for the formation of the personality of the future conductor of British interests, in addition to the usual brainwashing, initiation into secret societies is used (almost every private school and university in the United Kingdom has its own bed), as well as familiarization with sodomy, which is an important tradition of British educational institutions.



English-speaking countries are not only consistent and bitter enemies of our state for several centuries, but they also have a counter-intelligence (and intelligence) regime perfected to perfection, and every Russian arriving in them is considered for operational interest.

That is why tourist trips to these countries are being tabooed by officers of the special services - with the highest probability they can become objects of recruitment or provocation.

But for some reason, this sensible rule does not apply to statesmen, including those on whom much more can depend than on an ordinary FSB opera.



Materials periodically appear in the media about the protracted conflict of Viktor Zolotov, Director of the Federal Service of Forces of the National Guard of the Russian Federation, and opposition politician Alexei Navalny, who has repeatedly accused the army general of corruption.

Among other things, in one of the videos, the oppositionist Navalny asked himself the question “what money do the grandchildren learn?” Zolotov in England. In late December, Viktor Zolotov, in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, said:
“My grandson is really studying in England. And his father pays for his studies. I want to say that my grandson is studying perfectly well, I am proud of him .. In three years he will return, and I am sure that he will be a good economist. ”




However, in my opinion, the matter is not at all in the origin of the money for education, but in the very fact of study of the grandson of the commander-in-chief at the private English boarding school at the Cranleigh School in the village of Cranley, Surrey.



It is no secret that the opponents of our country do not give up hope and attempts to play on the internal Russian contradictions and blow up the state from the inside with the help of a “color revolution”, a coup or insurrection. In light of this, the post of army general Viktor Zolotov may be key to saving Russian statehood and sovereignty. Actually, the Institute of the National Guard troops of the Russian Federation itself was created to fight the internal enemy and protect the state system.

How permissible within the framework of this task is the existence of “hooks” for which the head of the department can be pulled from abroad, from the country that is one of the main world centers where intrigues are woven against Russia?

Write off on lack of awareness does not work. Viktor Zolotov simply cannot but know and not understand this - he himself comes from the special services, who served in the KGB of the USSR, in the GUO of the Russian Federation and the FSO, including in personal protection.



Is it possible that a powerful army general, rumored to be part of the closest circle of the head of state, cannot provide his grandson with the necessary education to become a “good economist” in his homeland? But the fact is that the question is not only and not so much in the quality and level of training. The times of Peter the Great, when noble children were sent to Amsterdam to study “navigation” in order to later turn their homeland into a maritime state, were long gone. Today, on the contrary, the West is pulling “brains” from Russia with all its might, and almost a third of Silicon Valley specialists have a Soviet or Russian education.



The thing is different: studying in a private school opens up the possibility (or hope for the opportunity) of membership already in the western elite. And those who send their offspring to study in such institutions do not see their future in Russia. By agreeing with the values ​​that they will be grafted in private boarding houses, they want to see them in the community of those who diligently and consistently prepare for the destruction of our country (the plans of the Western elite in relation to Russia are well known).

The statement of the already mentioned Brzezinski that “the new world order will be built against Russia, on the ruins of Russia and at the expense of Russia,” is known to all.

General Zolotov is a figure, undoubtedly, more than significant, but he, alas, is not the only representative of the leadership of our country (his post corresponds to the ministerial one), whose close relatives study or live in Anglo-Saxon countries. It simply became known about him thanks to the conflict with Navalny, who, by the way, himself completed six-month training at Yale University under the Yale World Fellows program, aimed at "building a network of new world leaders and expanding international understanding."



In total, according to Kommersant, the number of Russian schoolchildren in the UK, according to various estimates, ranges from 1 thousand to 3 thousand people. Each year, the ten largest Moscow companies that advise parents on studying abroad, contact 100-150 clients, whose children are mostly enrolled in British educational institutions.
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 8 January 2019 05: 36
    +66
    Among other things, in one of the videos, the oppositionist Navalny asked himself the question “what money do the grandchildren learn?” Zolotov in England. In late December, Viktor Zolotov, in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, said:
    “My grandson is really studying in England. And his father pays for his studies. I want to say that my grandson is studying perfectly well, I am proud of him .. In three years he will return, and I am sure that he will be a good economist. ”
    apparently, "our" future "elite" ...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 8 January 2019 05: 43
      +85
      Three years later he will return, and I am sure that he will be a good economist. ”

      I’m not a fan of Navalny, but I would like to ask Zolotov who this economist will be? ... ours or their Anglo-Saxon one? ... otherwise it will work like a Super Jet ... hehe heh our plane and you can’t sell them to Iran and nothing to replace.
      There is no guarantee that this economist will not do what they say to him from Alberta 85.
      All this is muddy.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 8 January 2019 05: 49
        +54
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        I’m not a fan of Navalny, but I would like to ask Zolotov whose economist this will be? ... ours or their Anglo-Saxon? ..

        I don't like Oval either ... and the "economist" will of course be the "overseer" (blat.), like the current "our" Yale graduates.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 8 January 2019 05: 59
          +38
          I remember this program ...
          Imagine that now there is a set of cadets-saboteurs ... hehe heh against Russia.
          The Yegor Gaidar Foundation and the US-Russia Foundation for

          Economic and Legal Development (USRF) announced the launch of a new competition among university students from the Republic of Tatarstan, Novosibirsk and Tomsk Regions. This is a program that is designed for young leaders in the field of economics.

          12 winners will receive the opportunity to undergo training and internship in the USA in the direction of Economics and Entrepreneurship at Purdue University, Indiana, USA. The duration of the internship is 4 weeks - from July to August 2014. The grant covers travel, tuition, room and board, visa costs and medical insurance.

          Requirements for candidates

          Students of 3-5 courses of universities of the Republic of Tatarstan, Novosibirsk and Tomsk Regions from the age of 18 to 24 are invited to participate in the competition
          .
          I can imagine what they will be taught there. what
          Moreover, the impudence is that the Americans want to get almost ready-made specialists at our expense ... it remains only to brainwash them.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 36
            +26
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            I can imagine what they will be taught there.

            "Having the experience of living in Europe and communicating with residents of other states, Russian" subjects "will have not only an innate Russian, but also European thinking. This will lead to an improvement in international relations, an understanding of the foreign vision of the world."-Liza Peskova. hi
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 8 January 2019 21: 56
              +6
              Quote: Silvestr
              Having experience living in Europe and communicating with residents of other states,

              "Homo homini lupus est" - man is a wolf to man, they said in ancient Rome. I think this is relevant now for Europe and in general.
            2. Sergey-8848
              Sergey-8848 9 January 2019 17: 41
              +1
              Before that, it would be nice to first learn your own vision of the world, and then move on to its perception with foreign eyes.
              Strange and benevolent advice for Lisa Peskovoy.
              By the way, the term "subjects"- is the girl invented, or who put it in her mouth?
            3. sgrabik
              sgrabik 10 January 2019 20: 13
              0
              More ridiculous thoughts cannot even be imagined, either these are the thoughts of a naive and still stupid child, or this is an almost ready-made "product" of Western education and, accordingly, Western thinking.
            4. atash
              atash 11 January 2019 09: 04
              0
              liberalism-utopianism.
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 9 January 2019 15: 40
            0
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            imagine that now there is a set of cadets-saboteurs
            About 20 thousand Chinese graduate from postgraduate and doctoral studies outside of China annually. Do you consider them saboteurs? Probably not. Here, for some reason, many people confuse the State Department with the special set.
            1. atash
              atash 11 January 2019 09: 03
              0
              But what is the percentage of Chinese foreign students and foreign students?
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 11 January 2019 13: 04
                0
                Quote: Atash
                percentage of Chinese students and foreign students?
                It's not about students, but about graduate students, doctoral students. I don’t know, but I believe that there are practically no economists there. Rather, mathematicians from Russia can be found in research economic projects (postgraduate).
        2. AntonR7
          AntonR7 8 January 2019 11: 59
          +9
          Glazyev, nevertheless, the person is not stupid and seems to be not a supporter of the West .... good things say Putin doesn’t seem to listen to him
          1. Claymore
            Claymore 8 January 2019 14: 33
            +9
            Quote: AntonR7
            Glazyev, nevertheless, man is not stupid and seems to be not a supporter of the West

            Glazyev lobbies for the interests of Russian production capital - he is not a supporter of the West just as much as Western capitalist production rivals are Russian.

            And for you there is a difference, which of the capitalists will live at your expense - Western, or Russian?
            1. AnpeL
              AnpeL 8 January 2019 16: 22
              +6
              And for you there is a difference, which of the capitalists will live at your expense - Western, or Russian?

              Well, if you choose, then it is better to our capitalist, especially if he is a producer, and not trade
              1. Claymore
                Claymore 8 January 2019 20: 46
                +3
                Quote: AnpeL
                Well, if you choose, then it’s better to ours

                Which is better?

                And if you choose, then why choose a yoke?
                1. atash
                  atash 11 January 2019 09: 01
                  -1
                  that’s how the world works, without capitalists. Such a scheme, without a scheme it will only get worse.
                  1. Claymore
                    Claymore 11 January 2019 17: 51
                    -1
                    How is the world "so" arranged? laughing

                    What is the function of the capitalist, that allegedly without it in any way?

                    What is so good about a certain "scheme" that without it it should get worse?
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 9 January 2019 16: 16
            0
            Quote: AntonR7
            Glazyev, nevertheless, the person is not stupid and seems to be not a supporter of the West .... good things say Putin doesn’t seem to listen to him
            Because he was not in London, but in Chile, Pinochet’s experience was adopted, and then in 92-93 he established very effective foreign economic relations with the West.
          3. sniperino
            sniperino 9 January 2019 17: 15
            0
            Quote: AntonR7
            current Putin does not seem to listen to him
            may be listening, but it is also necessary to study the experience of the metropolis (England), and not just the experience of the US colony (Chile).
        3. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 8 January 2019 22: 00
          +24
          the current "our" Yale graduates.

          In fact, it all started much earlier:Soviet students in the USA, 1959

          Press Release Columbia University Information Bureau on the end of the internship of Soviet students.
          The first exchange students from Russia complete their stay at Columbia University. Four students from Russia who were in the country under the government-sponsored Soviet-American student exchange program are completing a one-year stay at Columbia University ... Oleg D. Kalugin, Alexander N. Yakovlev, Yu.N. Stozhkov and Gennady P. Bekhterev.

          Yakovlev became the "chief architect of perestroika". Kalugin became a KGB general, who during perestroika was one of the first to flee to the United States and surrender everyone he could.
          Just the epic results of Anglo-Saxon training.
        4. Petrograd
          Petrograd 9 January 2019 00: 06
          +10
          The enemies listed in the photo are subject to execution, but thanks to the patronage of Puuuu, and the protection of the Russian Guard (have immunity), democracy is in all its glory.
        5. Lyudmila Vladimirovna Vashchenko
          Lyudmila Vladimirovna Vashchenko 9 January 2019 12: 55
          +6
          Add Nabiulina, the authors of the pension reform ... well, agents of influence in their pure form
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 8 January 2019 07: 15
        +63
        It’s not muddy, it’s criminal towards the people, but this crime is NEVER reflected anywhere, IN ANY Code or in the code of laws neither the concept nor its content is fixed.
        And the MAIN THING is that the crime of such behavior is not assessed, only liberoids will always be able to object: "Education is everyone's personal business!"
        But only the inner essence of EVERYONE and ANY official is manifested in his children and grandchildren: where they live, who they educate, whom they study, who they become and who they serve.
        The mentioned general is a tracing of a military traitor official ...
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 8 January 2019 08: 43
          +33
          it’s criminal towards the people,
          but the president does not know this ...
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 8 January 2019 09: 36
            +24
            Quote: Gardamir
            it’s criminal towards the people,
            but the president does not know this ...

            Remember: "Ignorance of the law does not absolve from responsibility"?
            This is where Putin's grave problems begin, which are explained by the words from Holy Scripture: "He who has ears, let him hear"
            So the problems - in the reluctance not only to HEAR, but also to LISTEN - this is simply hindered by the liberoid mindset of a very egoistic nature that does not allow us to calculate the degree of danger revealed in the process of comparing situations that are opposite in sign for execution.
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 32
            +21
            Quote: Gardamir
            but the president does not know this ...

            it's a joke .... If his daughters lived there
            1. Dull
              Dull 8 January 2019 17: 09
              +6
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Gardamir
              but the president does not know this ...

              it's a joke .... If his daughters lived there

              Sylvester, they didn’t live there, but conducted operational work, following the example of the pope... You should be sent to court for the disclosure of operational information. Do not try to "light up" Peskov's daughter, because she is still there (for life). laughing drinks hi
              1. AnpeL
                AnpeL 8 January 2019 17: 59
                +1
                in general, giving our children to amanats is an extraordinary one, but apparently our powerful and inappropriately giving away do not see any risks for themselves here, or maybe there are really no risks for them
          3. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 8 January 2019 16: 37
            +4
            Quote: Gardamir
            it’s criminal towards the people,
            but the president does not know this ...

            It depends on who can bear this proud name "people", and such in the course of 1-2% of the population in the opinion and the increasing wave of "revelations" of some members about the ruling group.
        2. populist
          populist 8 January 2019 10: 25
          +29
          hydrox (hydrox)
          , but this crime is NEVER reflected, IN ANY Code or code of laws, neither the concept nor its content is recorded.

          It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad. No. If one of the children of officials lives or studies abroad on his own initiative, then such officials will be driven by a filthy broom negative from all posts, but again by law
          1. Victor N
            Victor N 8 January 2019 11: 39
            -16
            Why? An official is also a person, a citizen, who has equal rights with others.
            1. Engineer engineer
              Engineer engineer 8 January 2019 12: 01
              +22
              What about responsibilities? Then let him receive wages and other "benefits" on an equal basis with others.
              1. Victor N
                Victor N 9 January 2019 15: 05
                -4
                "Equalization" passed - an unproductive method. For "duties" - yes, it is necessary to ask strictly. But everything must have its own measure.
            2. populist
              populist 8 January 2019 12: 36
              +17
              Victor n (Victor n)
              Why? An official is also a person, a citizen, who has equal rights with others.

              No not equal. They banned officials from having their own business in order to avoid a conflict of interest. The people have the right to protect themselves. soldier
              1. Alf
                Alf 8 January 2019 13: 20
                +20
                Quote: populist
                They banned officials from having their own business in order to avoid a conflict of interest.

                And then the wives of these bureaucrats became so successful businesswoman ...
                1. hydrox
                  hydrox 8 January 2019 15: 29
                  +3
                  Quote: Alf
                  And then the wives of these bureaucrats became so successful businesswoman ...
                  Reply

                  Dear, this hole in the legislation was not accidentally learned; it was ORGANIZED for this by the diplomats together with the oligarchs - this unity will not be impenetrable until the diplomats are allowed before re-elections, prematurely terminating their powers with a 10-year ban on holding official and elected posts. And we, the electorate, as it should be, at the local elections, and only then, a year later, the elections from local diputans to the State Duma (immediately after the rating vote on the deputy report), where the rating will add up to the number of votes of the electorate.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 8 January 2019 16: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: hydrox
                    Dear,

                    Darling, I understand very well why this was done.
            3. Alf
              Alf 8 January 2019 13: 19
              +19
              Quote: Victor N
              Why? An official is also a person, a citizen, who has equal rights with others.

              You are welcome ! Let him study at least at Harvard, at least at Yale. It is only after this that the path to state structures should be closed to him.
              1. Dull
                Dull 8 January 2019 17: 16
                +7
                Quote: Alf
                You are welcome ! Let him study at least at Harvard, at least at Yale. It is only after this that the path to state structures should be closed to him.

                Through the related business structures, the Feeder will still have it. This is not even the point, but the fact that through the "kids" of officials it is possible to influence parents who have access to secrets related to our defense and security. hi
            4. olimpiada15
              olimpiada15 8 January 2019 21: 48
              +4
              Quote: Victor N
              Why? An official is also a person, a citizen, who has equal rights with others.

              You try to explain this to the official, because they are sure that they should not comply with the laws, and the "others" have no legal rights.
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 8 January 2019 11: 51
            +8
            [quote = populist]
            It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad. [/ quote
            No! Let them learn. But...
            But legally prohibit, after graduation, to occupy leadership positions at any level.
            1. populist
              populist 8 January 2019 12: 44
              +12
              Krasnoyarsk
              No! Let them learn. But...

              Of course, let them study, but dad (mother) should fly out of a warm place immediately am
              But legally prohibit, after graduation, to occupy leadership positions at any level.

              And that goes without saying good
            2. Dull
              Dull 8 January 2019 17: 18
              +1
              [quote = Krasnoyarsk]
              [quote = populist]
              It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad. [/ quote
              No! Let them learn. But...
              But legally prohibit, after graduation, to occupy leadership positions at any level. [/ Quote]
              It is enough to be a secretary in the Administration at any level to obtain the necessary information and its subsequent transmission. hi
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 9 January 2019 12: 44
                +1
                Quote: Dumb

                It is enough to be a secretary in the Administration at any level to obtain the necessary information and its subsequent transmission. hi

                You want to say that some kind of Harvard graduate will go to work as a secretary?
                If it does, then only on assignment. And this is not some sort of graduate anymore, but a shpien. And this is the FSB’s concern.
                1. Dull
                  Dull 10 January 2019 09: 59
                  0
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  You want to say that some kind of Harvard graduate will go to work as a secretary?
                  If it does, then only on assignment. And this is not some sort of graduate anymore, but a shpien. And this is the FSB’s concern.

                  Does Patrushev have no children abroad?
          3. Tatanka Yotanka
            Tatanka Yotanka 8 January 2019 13: 07
            +10
            Quote: populist
            then drive such officials with a filthy broom

            Their entire supreme party apparatus
            never be homeless
            will leave for his distant Londongrad,
            il in the district of Courchevel Autonomous
            financial rivers will continue to flow
            while at the galley, holding a slave oar,
            Really you do not know, people
            all the wine is greed and loot fellow
          4. hydrox
            hydrox 8 January 2019 15: 18
            +4
            Quote: populist
            then to drive such officials a filthy broom from all posts, but again, by law

            The Russian anti-people Duma will NOT adopt such a law NEVER, as it is kept by the oligarchy.
            1. Dull
              Dull 8 January 2019 17: 20
              -1
              Quote: hydrox

              Quote: populist
              then to drive such officials a filthy broom from all posts, but again, by law

              The Russian anti-people Duma will NOT adopt such a law NEVER, as it is kept by the oligarchy.

              Can you tell them apart? laughing
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 8 January 2019 19: 22
                +1
                But don’t distinguish between them: this is a system, not individual cases, therefore rotation with lustration will not die, they will somehow smack on the hypodermis while their SKP will peel off for hiccups of stolen goods) - or emigration (if stolen with dignity) ) laughing
          5. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 8 January 2019 17: 08
            +5
            Quote: populist
            It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad.

            That is, if they are forbidden to study in one capitalist state and allowed to study in another capitalist state, for example, at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow, this will lead to a reformatting of the consciousness of the children, which will subsequently lead to the abandonment of the Western capitalist idea of ​​building a society, the flourishing of the social state inside Russia and the change of order to a more equitable?
            The principle of the capitalist system:

            How can a fair society in the country be achieved in this chain if this principle, as in the picture, is the dominant system in the Russian Federation?
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 9 January 2019 12: 39
              0
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              Quote: populist
              It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad.

              That is, if they are forbidden to study in one capitalist state and allowed to study in another capitalist state, for example, at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow, this will lead to a reformatting of the consciousness of the children, which will subsequently lead to the abandonment of the Western capitalist idea of ​​building a society, the flourishing of the social state inside Russia and the change of order to a more equitable?
              The principle of the capitalist system:

              How can a fair society in the country be achieved in this chain if this principle, as in the picture, is the dominant system in the Russian Federation?

              Yes, it's not about that.
              It is very difficult to change the socio-political structure of society.
              And to pass a law prohibiting graduates of all kinds of harvards to occupy leading public posts are possible. The people also have the right to legislative initiative. It is only necessary to collect the required number of signatures.
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 9 January 2019 13: 06
                +1
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                It is very difficult to change the socio-political structure of society.

                Everything else, such as collecting signatures, is meaningless. It’s the same as crushing water in a mortar — there is movement, but there is no sense. Have you already forgotten about the abolition of pension signatures? How are the results in that direction?
          6. free
            free 9 January 2019 07: 56
            +2
            Quote: populist
            hydrox (hydrox)
            , but this crime is NEVER reflected, IN ANY Code or code of laws, neither the concept nor its content is recorded.

            It is necessary at the legislative level to prohibit the children of officials from studying or simply living abroad. No. If one of the children of officials lives or studies abroad on his own initiative, then such officials will be driven by a filthy broom negative from all posts, but again by law

            How to do this if laws are written by them themselves? Look wider.
        3. NordUral
          NordUral 8 January 2019 13: 42
          +8
          In general, the subjugation of a country or people through the taming of its elite is a long-standing method, practiced since ancient times. Thus, the ancient Greeks, panicky afraid of the Scythians, tried to conquer, if not conquer, at least protect their policies from their raids, introducing their leaders to Greek culture. However, according to Herodotus, if the Scythian kings began to adhere to Greek customs, their subjects mercilessly killed them.
          A subject for reflection? And you don’t have to kill at all, just send them to their beloved West. You cannot return the stolen (that which is material beyond the hill), and nationalize enterprises.
          And do not forget at the same time the Pole who hated us and his words about this cattle, which for some reason is called the elite.
          1. flint
            flint 8 January 2019 16: 08
            +5
            Well, it’s quite possible to return stolen goods, I think a couple of months in an ordinary cell in an ordinary booty, crosses or sailor silence of the whole family and all the stolen goods will return to the country, and only then you can send them with solemn wires laughing , only you need to do this with everyone right away, otherwise many will be able to fade.
            1. Dull
              Dull 8 January 2019 17: 24
              0
              Quote: flint
              Well, it’s quite possible to return stolen goods, I think a couple of months in an ordinary cell in an ordinary booty, crosses or sailor silence of the whole family and all the stolen goods will return to the country, and only then you can send them with ceremonial wires, you just have to do this with everyone, or many time to fade.

              Do you think why the lads used soldering irons and irons in the 90s? The cell for them is a temporary refuge from the "pack of comrades". but the soldering iron in use is the very thing. In a couple of minutes he will hand over all accomplices with bank accounts and passwords. laughing
              1. flint
                flint 8 January 2019 18: 24
                +3
                No, well, this is not civilian with soldering irons - humanism is above all in this matter! wassat
                1. Dull
                  Dull 9 January 2019 00: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: flint

                  No, well, this is not civilian with soldering irons - humanism is above all in this matter!

                  That is, still an iron? laughing
                  1. flint
                    flint 9 January 2019 00: 59
                    0
                    BUT NOT INCLUDED! laughing
                    1. Mih1974
                      Mih1974 9 January 2019 15: 35
                      0
                      Not then a soldering iron "not included" but "entered" is better lol It seems as if it doesn’t “solder”, but the very thought about it “warms” the client and stimulates him to think in the right direction. good
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      3. Siberian
        Siberian 8 January 2019 08: 16
        +28
        And all of our efficient managers studied something there: Nabiulina, Siluanov, etc. They are proud of the overseas education, it is emphasized everywhere and the question is to our logic: if they are so wonderful, why didn’t they find application where they were learned? In America - for ameroeconomics, in England - for one, in France - for one’s needs. On duty, I dealt (in due time) with NPOs, then, however, I did not understand their behavior, but now it’s all in full view.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 8 January 2019 09: 45
          +18
          Quote: Siberian
          why they didn’t find application where they were learned

          So, after all, they were not picked up among the homeless in Russia, and they were prepared not for the Western life of TAM, but for the performance of the AGENCY HERE. After all, these people KNOW that they go under the criminal article on causing harm, on betraying the people and the state, but they KNOW that as long as they have power, they are safe from the application of the law.
          But when they lose power, then they will run :: quickly run ...
          1. Dull
            Dull 8 January 2019 17: 28
            +2
            Quote: hydrox
            So, after all, they were not picked up among the homeless in Russia, and they were prepared not for the Western life of TAM, but for the performance of the AGENCY HERE. After all, these people KNOW that they go under the criminal article on causing harm, on betraying the people and the state, but they KNOW that as long as they have power, they are safe from the application of the law.
            But when they lose power, then they will run :: quickly run ...

            Where will they run? To be in the position of Ostap Bender on the Romanian border? No, now they will either launch the program "Putin's Successor-Savior of Russia", or they will sell the Kuriles for a refuge for themselves and their capital. There is no third. hi
            1. Alf
              Alf 8 January 2019 17: 42
              +3
              Quote: Dumb
              No, now they will either launch the program "Putin's Successor-Savior of Russia", or they will sell the Kuriles for a refuge for themselves and their capital.

              They will work in both directions. But before leaving, the Kuril Islands will surrender, and the successor will explain why this should have been done. Everyone will be happy, except for the smokers, but who will care about their opinion?
              Yes, even a year before 2024, Vanga flashes on the screen, which once again tells everyone that it is from the successor that the SPIRITUAL (but not material and physical) revival of Russia will begin.
            2. hydrox
              hydrox 8 January 2019 19: 24
              +1
              They will sell the Kuril Islands - and Zolotov will not save, and there will not be enough foreign flights ...
      4. bandabas
        bandabas 8 January 2019 10: 29
        0
        Theirs, theirs, like Zolotov himself, ha No.
      5. YOUR
        YOUR 8 January 2019 13: 23
        +7
        Lavrov's daughter is studying in the USA. He will come to become a diplomat in some generation there, whose question is this diplomat ???
        Peskov’s daughter lives in Paris, what she does there, studying or living on the money of the most honest and incorruptible secretary himself, somehow did not ask such a question, but I know for sure that all these tales about the terrible Vanguard, the terrible autonomous underwater vehicles, nuclear missiles and other achievements, it may very well be, only no one is afraid of them and does not take into account.
        And Russia has long become a raw materials appendage and a third-grade country.
        1. Consultant
          Consultant 8 January 2019 13: 58
          -6
          Quote: YOUR
          Lavrov's daughter is studying in the USA. He will come to become a diplomat in some generation there, whose question is this diplomat ???

          No need to lie. Or, if you already started - at least do it talentedly:

          The daughter of Sergei Lavrov, Ekaterina Vinokurova, told Marie-Claire magazine that she has been living, working and raising children in Russia for about 10 years.
          ...
          The diplomat’s daughter lived in America for 17 years, while her father was Russia's ambassador to the UN. She studied at Columbia University of Political Science, then another year - at the London School of Economics. She returned to Russia at the age of 23


          Quote: YOUR
          all these fairy tales about the terrible Vanguard, terrible autonomous underwater vehicles, nuclear-powered rockets and other achievements, it may very well be, only no one is afraid of them and does not take them into account

          The idea that during the threatened period (or rather, long before its onset) to "remove" their children from there for the "elite" - how to delete two files, for some reason does not visit the users of this manual wink

          Quote: YOUR
          Russia has long become a raw materials appendage and a third-grade country

          In your dreams, nothing more. Well, or drag your evidence here, I’m going to dissect them, um.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 9 January 2019 14: 24
            0
            This is you dreaming. Dream that they will take their kids from there, dream that we are independent. 20 years we get up from our knees, and revive something there Only more and more we climb into the ass.
            1. Consultant
              Consultant 9 January 2019 19: 56
              -4
              Quote: YOUR
              ... more and more in the ass we climb

              Speak for yourself, please, where do you climb there. For me - no need. And in general for others - it is also not necessary, it is wrong.

              Quote: YOUR
              ... you dream

              I do not dream, I have no time, I work. And, kakbe - I caught you in a lie, and in the inability to think with my head. And you are trying to teach me life. It’s not strange for you, no?

              Evidence about

              Quote: YOUR
              Russia has long become a raw materials appendage and a third-grade country

              as I understand it, will not be? Well your problems request

              Lie further, judging by the pluses - you are in the right place. Here it is possible and necessary, and only here you will be appreciated laughing
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 8 January 2019 19: 28
          +2
          Please don’t show us your liberalism: it won’t help you when you have to run (you’ll hit you on the knees), because if they catch up, they simply can’t calculate the momentum of the force impact ...
      6. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 8 January 2019 16: 51
        +5
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        There is no guarantee that this economist will not do what they say from ...
        I would even say the opposite: he will act on a subconscious level according to the laid model. What they invest in him there, and invest in quality, he will implement it. Do not go to a fortuneteller.
        If you now look at the senior officers of the "newly-made democracies" of the Baltic and Eastern Europe, it turns out that many were trained in the states where they were invited with their families. A specific example from country 404 was demonstrated by my classmate - he refuses to know us, but we are "at war". And his wife doesn't want to know her father, our teacher ...
        The Anglo-Saxons know how to play long and you can't beat them from a kandachka, long-term plans are needed here. And the 'kids' need to go home before they are brainwashed there ..
      7. astronom1973n
        astronom1973n 9 January 2019 06: 35
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        There is no guarantee that this economist will not do what they say to him from Alberta 85.

        If you can! And then his abilities are doubtful against the background of his grandfather's statements. The apple does not fall far from the apple tree.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 January 2019 05: 47
      -20
      Quote: Aerodrome
      Among other things, in one of the commercials, the opposition Navalny wondered

      Navalny is still that prostitute, she can’t get out of the US embassy herself, she still catches someone about something.
      As for Zolotov, this is the fashion they have now, studying in Paris. Probably they think that education is bad in Russia.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 8 January 2019 07: 05
        +46
        Where does the homeland begin?
        From the picture in your primer!
        Here I was brought up with this song and the right pictures, Malchish-kibalchish is ready to give his life for his homeland, and Plohish has sold out, now his relatives are in power in Russia.
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 8 January 2019 12: 34
          +3
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Where does the homeland begin?
          From the picture in your primer!

          Putin recalled when they met with colleagues, back in Soviet times, they also sang: - "Where does the Motherland begin." And then some betrayed her.
      2. Evil543
        Evil543 8 January 2019 10: 17
        -3
        And where is Romanov wrong?
        1. AUL
          AUL 8 January 2019 12: 02
          +8
          Quote: Evil543
          And where is Romanov wrong?

          And where is Navalny wrong?
          1. Evil543
            Evil543 8 January 2019 12: 26
            -1
            Why is he not being treated at home, for example, but is traveling abroad?
      3. bandabas
        bandabas 8 January 2019 10: 30
        +2
        Something this fashion has been going on for twenty years with a tail.
      4. New Year day
        New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 37
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        in rossi education is bad deer stupid

        “I was preparing now for the marketing exam and remembered how I came to Russia 3 years ago to pass two years in a year and pass the exam. Honestly it was some kind of hell,” wrote Peskov's daughter on her Instagram. According to her, the education system in Russia needs to be changed.
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 8 January 2019 11: 47
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          “I was preparing now for the marketing exam and remembered how I came to Russia 3 years ago to pass two years in a year and pass the exam. Honestly it was some kind of hell,” wrote Peskov's daughter on her Instagram. According to her, the education system in Russia needs to be changed.

          Let him go hand over in South Korea and prepare there.
        2. Alf
          Alf 8 January 2019 13: 23
          +2
          Quote: Silvestr
          According to her, the education system in Russia needs to be changed.

          That's right, there’s nothing to learn for any lackeys.
          Quote: Silvestr
          and pass the exam. Honestly, it was some kind of hell, "

          Why the hell? The exam system is deducted from yours, from a foreign one.
      5. NordUral
        NordUral 8 January 2019 13: 45
        +2
        Sanya! I dare not argue, and he is not his supporter myself. But the truth about "our" elite "from the fact that he is not very honest will not become a lie. And so far no one has refuted it.
      6. YOUR
        YOUR 8 January 2019 14: 07
        +2
        And how do they differ from Navalny if they study in the same educational institution.
      7. ver_
        ver_ 8 January 2019 14: 37
        0
        ... they study at Hogwarts with Dumbledore ..
      8. Titus
        Titus 10 January 2019 21: 36
        0
        This is not fashion, they have their own braces
    3. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 07: 03
      -20
      and should in a dress coat and with juice?))) young) why not)
      1. kitt409
        kitt409 8 January 2019 12: 29
        +2
        In your confined space - whatever you like, but "in public" be kind, comply with etiquette) and the rules of behavior
        1. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 12: 44
          -3
          and where is he?) at a reception at the embassy?)
    4. Etienne
      Etienne 8 January 2019 08: 11
      +31
      This is not an elite. The bastards, who have risen under the banners of our enemies, and apparently will not do with one steamboat here. Those who betrayed the People and the Fatherland have no faith and never will.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 8 January 2019 09: 48
        -1
        You have a bad thing with a letter, in particular, with definitions.
        It is necessary to write not "enemies", but "enemies". lol
        1. Setrac
          Setrac 8 January 2019 11: 49
          +3
          Quote: hydrox
          You have a bad thing with a letter, in particular, with definitions.
          It is necessary to write not "enemies", but "enemies".

          My minus. I, from the principle, minus everyone who finds fault with grammar. Silence is gold, nothing to say - be silent.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 8 January 2019 15: 53
            +1
            Quote: Setrac
            Silence is gold, nothing to say - be silent.

            And rightly so, keep quiet: enemies are your envious people at work, but with such your tolerance, I even find it difficult to ask - do you have any enemies? Or Chubais and Deripaska are your friends? lol
            1. Setrac
              Setrac 8 January 2019 18: 59
              0
              Quote: hydrox
              I even find it difficult

              that’s not necessary
              Quote: hydrox
              and you have enemies

              they won’t become your friends,
              Quote: hydrox
              Or Chubais with Deripaska your friends

              who are they? The first time I've heard.
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 8 January 2019 19: 34
                -2
                And I don’t collect friends anywhere: there’s a clip of long-tested ones ... But ignorance of the political moment will cost you alright if a couple of teeth ... laughing
                1. Setrac
                  Setrac 8 January 2019 19: 40
                  -3
                  Quote: hydrox
                  And ignorance of the political moment will cost you well, if a couple of teeth ...

                  So this is what you can? When you have nothing to say (always) to emphasize your opponent’s grammatical mistakes and threaten?
                  Quote: youtube.com
                  This is a fiasco bro ...
                  1. hydrox
                    hydrox 8 January 2019 23: 11
                    -2
                    Sorry, but you are boring and uninteresting, it makes no sense to even minus you.
                    All the best.
                    1. Setrac
                      Setrac 9 January 2019 18: 35
                      0
                      Quote: hydrox
                      All the best.

                      All the best
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 8 January 2019 09: 24
      +19
      The fifth column in Russia is being formed in the West in front of our president. And that means that everything is going according to the plan of the Western elites, as well as all our reforms in education, science and the economy. Although the count on the head is comic, but things are still there. Is it because no one wants to hear the voice of the people?winked
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 8 January 2019 09: 50
        +16
        Quote: siberalt
        The fifth column in Russia is being formed in the West in front of our president.

        In front of the Ave, it’s not the Fifth Column, but a dense liberal bandage, with a gangster-thieves personal environment and a powerful sawing bureaucracy formed: such blind-blind management will not end in good for Russia.
        1. NordUral
          NordUral 8 January 2019 13: 50
          +5
          hydrox He is not blind-eyedHe is one of them.
    6. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 8 January 2019 10: 01
      +14
      Quote: Aerodrome
      apparently, "our" future "elite" ...

      These are Gauleiters. This is not our elite.
    7. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 10: 50
      +6
      Quote: Aerodrome
      apparently, "our" future "elite" ...

      Maybe the "elite" ... but not ours ...
    8. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 8 January 2019 22: 01
      +2
      Quote: Aerodrome
      apparently, "our" future "elite"

      +++ "Elite" in quotes. It is right. The elite cannot be, by definition, Ours if it takes root there.
  2. sagitch
    sagitch 8 January 2019 05: 52
    -13
    Already overcome! Punish our children and grandchildren
    - Do not give birth to slaves! Let them live for themselves.
    And then there will be no one for the "rotten elite" to extract oil and create benefits.
    1. Alex Kind
      Alex Kind 8 January 2019 08: 51
      +15
      Well done! Not ours only dream about it. So that we have 15 million left, and never to rock the boat.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 8 January 2019 13: 52
      +2
      sagitch! You are not calling us there, this is what they are achieving.
    3. Dull
      Dull 8 January 2019 17: 35
      +3
      Quote: sagitch
      Already overcome! Punish our children and grandchildren
      - Do not give birth to slaves! Let them live for themselves.
      And then there will be no one for the "rotten elite" to extract oil and create benefits.

      Maybe it's easier to reduce their stock? Since when did they become masters of 90% of the country's population? We have a slave system? fool
    4. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 9 January 2019 17: 43
      +1
      Quote: sagitch
      Already overcome! Punish our children and grandchildren
      - Do not give birth to slaves! Let them live for themselves.

      the trouble is that slaves are not needed either, you know technology ... "Elite" needs consumers.
  3. afrikanez
    afrikanez 8 January 2019 05: 58
    +18
    I am sure that "warm places" in the state apparatus are already awaiting the "new elite" learned in the UK and the states. negative
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 8 January 2019 06: 57
      +23
      . Is a powerful army general rumored to be in the close circle of the head of state can not to provide his grandson with the necessary education so that he becomes a “good economist” in his homeland?

      So he made clear by his answer that he could not and was pleased with everything.
      . I want to say that the grandson is doing very well, I'm proud of him ..

      And how the whole country is "proud" of you and your grandson! It just reduces the cheekbones!
    2. Mr Credo
      Mr Credo 8 January 2019 07: 14
      +25
      Well, that’s why children are sent to study there so as not to stand at the machine here! It seems that privatization of municipal property and the abolition of housing and communal services are still being prepared. There will be a field for the activities of the young generation! And what a talented and capable generation it is! On the internet they already wrote about Peskov’s son. True or not, I don’t know. There is an interview with Peskov’s daughter. Unlearned in Paris. She knows the Russian language so well that for her legal proceedings and shipbuilding are one and the same! But all these kids will know foreign languages ​​very well.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 8 January 2019 08: 21
        +10
        It seems that privatization of municipal property and the abolition of housing and communal services are still being prepared.

        These are still flowers ... the berries ahead are waiting for our people very unpleasant.
        Very interesting tricks began to emerge under the program of renovation with land under the houses of residents and courtyards ... City Hall and municipalities cheated with might and main taking land from the owners using the illiteracy of people in this matter ... people are literally thrown out and thrown out of such places. am
        1. Mr Credo
          Mr Credo 8 January 2019 08: 24
          +14
          It seems we are waiting for an amazing five-year plan!
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 January 2019 13: 29
            +3
            Quote: Mr Credo
            It seems we are waiting for an amazing five-year plan!

            For that fought for it and ran.
          2. NordUral
            NordUral 8 January 2019 13: 57
            +6
            Credo! It is necessary to prepare a tsunami that will sweep them out of power and property. Instead of lamenting future troubles, they were punished after the pension reform. 18 March had to think.
          3. ver_
            ver_ 8 January 2019 14: 41
            +2
            ... or a large invigorating clister ... like that of Yaroslav Hasek ..
    3. New Year day
      New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 42
      +13
      Quote: afrikanez
      I am sure that "warm places" in the state apparatus are already awaiting a "new elite" ...


      and many will inherit these warm places. The ruling party will not forget their children, because they will not abandon their
      1. igor67
        igor67 8 January 2019 11: 59
        +9
        Lisa Peskova constantly lives behind the hill, this year condemned the celebration of the New Year at 12 nights.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 8 January 2019 11: 50
      -4
      Yes, they will not go to the civil service! Tidbits in large corporations, and there knowledge of the theory and practice of Western business is necessary.
      1. AUL
        AUL 8 January 2019 12: 31
        +3
        Even as they go!
      2. Dull
        Dull 8 January 2019 17: 40
        +4
        Quote: Victor N
        Yes, they will not go to the civil service! Tidbits in large corporations, and there knowledge of the theory and practice of Western business is necessary.

        For this, places are created with high-profile names and an astronomical salary, but without real authority. The main thing is getting access to the right officials. Are you still a newcomer to business? lol
    5. Alf
      Alf 8 January 2019 13: 28
      +8
      The growth of warm places.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 January 2019 06: 18
    +15
    In total, according to Kommersant, the number of Russian schoolchildren in the UK, according to various estimates, ranges from 1 thousand to 3 thousand people.

    ... I’m not quite sure that these few thousand will be betrayed to Russia, rather, on the contrary, this is a replenishing 5 column ....
  5. apro
    apro 8 January 2019 06: 23
    +13
    Apparently. Someone lost the civilization race ...
    Not only do the upper strata look at European values ​​by opening their mouths. But the bulk of the population watch Western-style TV. Dress like that. And they start to think outside the box.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 January 2019 06: 55
      +6
      Regarding clothes, after all, since the time of Peter the Great, they tried to dress in a foreign manner. The main thing is brains. And they have been trying for a long time to re-buy or reformat them.
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 10: 57
        +3
        Quote: Reptiloid
        because since the time of Peter1 tried to dress in a foreign

        What is the way of confusing a "fork with a bottle"? They did not try to dress in a foreign way, but forced to dress in a foreign way! For then the awareness was already born: being determines consciousness!
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 8 January 2019 07: 15
      +22
      Quote: apro
      Apparently. Someone lost the civilization race ...
      Not only do the upper strata look at European values ​​by opening their mouths. But the bulk of the population watch Western-style TV. Dress like that. And they start to think outside the box.

      I remembered how they laughed at the phrase: "Today he dances jazz, and tomorrow he will sell his homeland." They laughed in vain.
    3. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 10 January 2019 17: 18
      0
      [quoteino the bulk of the population watch Western-style TV. dress the same way. and start to think our own ..] [/ quote]
      Thank God, those in VO are still in the minority.
  6. Sars
    Sars 8 January 2019 06: 42
    +14
    Khazaria was captured by the Rakhdonites. Russia is their descendants.
    1. Sars
      Sars 8 January 2019 06: 46
      +8
      All British UZ belong to the Yudo-Masonic organizations.
      1. Sars
        Sars 8 January 2019 06: 47
        +7
        Iel, where Nabiulina and the bulk were studying - skull and bones,
  7. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 8 January 2019 06: 48
    +29
    Putin appointed Zolotov to the Russian Guard, everything is connected, the bourgeoisie rules Russia, they teach children in the West how to sell them more profitably.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 8 January 2019 07: 21
      +14
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Putin appointed Zolotov to the Russian Guard, everything is connected, the bourgeoisie rules Russia, they teach children in the West how to sell them more profitably.

      They don't care what to sell, as long as there is a profit. This is the essence of the "bright" capitalist present. It will be profitable - and you and I will be sold, and the Motherland. "What they fought for ...", as they say.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 8 January 2019 08: 14
        -27
        Quote: Doliva63
        Putin appointed Zolotov to the Russian Guard, everything is connected

        Aren't you worried about who blames Zolotov? When did these accusations begin? Should a grandfather be responsible for the actions of children and grandchildren? Can you tell me where the offspring of "our" billionaires from the Forbes list study?

        The arrival of the fifth column on Zolotov began from the moment when he openly declared that he was with Putin, that he was against the enemies of Russia.



        Our enemies once again strike their blow at governing the country. They do not need a strong Russia, they need a Maidan. Zolotov is a hindrance in the realization of their dreams. Who is for the destruction of Russia - join the traitors and wet it.

        Quote: Doliva63
        "What they fought for ...", as they say.

        For whom they voted (I mean the Duma), we live by such laws.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 8 January 2019 08: 44
          +21
          Who is blaming Zolotov?
          Are the allegations not true in essence?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 8 January 2019 08: 50
            -14
            Quote: Gardamir
            Are the allegations not true in essence?

            Then blame everyone, and not just those who prevent someone from realizing their selfish plans in the interests of another state.

            Grandfather is not responsible for grandchildren. If you really want to blame someone, then blame not their grandfather, but their parents.

            So the charges are not addressed. And by the way, are you annoyed by the words of Zolotov in the picture?
            1. Snail N9
              Snail N9 8 January 2019 09: 28
              +14
              What, there is an unfortunate "former security guard", the "most" daughter is not in Russia .. but he is a "patriot", and then who else ... wink
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 8 January 2019 09: 32
                -16
                Quote: Snail N9
                the "most" daughter is not in Russia.

                I hope they are no longer children and the father is not responsible for them, otherwise one "comrade", post below, wants to make horror stories about 38 a reality. I hope you are not one of those. laughing

                And by the way. Peasants, as a rule, have no time to raise children, and when they get married, they do not always think with that head, which is necessary. repeat
                1. Snail N9
                  Snail N9 8 January 2019 09: 42
                  +13
                  Well, yes, "the son does not answer for his father" .... as we remember ... only there is another saying - "an apple falls not far from an apple tree" .... wink
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 January 2019 09: 49
                    -5
                    Quote: Snail N9
                    only there is another saying - "an apple falls not far from an apple tree".

                    You only said part of the saying. Continuation: "... falls not far, but rolls far." laughing
                    1. Snail N9
                      Snail N9 8 January 2019 09: 59
                      +15
                      But the question is, if your children and grandchildren live in another country, what country do you serve? Which, which countries do you have priorities? And if there is a conflict with the country where your children are, then which side will you take? And which side will your children take? winked
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 8 January 2019 10: 03
                        -12
                        Quote: Snail N9
                        But the question is, if your children and grandchildren live in another country, what country do you serve?

                        The one to whom he took the oath. Parents are not responsible for adult children and especially for grandchildren.

                        About the study. Which manager would suit you more, the one who received his education abroad, or the one that passed the USE perfectly?
                      2. Snail N9
                        Snail N9 8 January 2019 10: 20
                        +13
                        One that has a head on its shoulders ... for example, my company is run by people without special economic education and quite successfully .... wink There is an opinion that the notorious "economic education" is nothing more than teaching the "bird language" in order to join a certain cohort of "economists" and that's all, and to "management" in real life, has a very mediocre relationship ... wink
                      3. Boris55
                        Boris55 8 January 2019 10: 29
                        -3
                        Quote: Snail N9
                        It is believed that the notorious "economic education" is nothing more than teaching the "bird language" in order to join a cohort of "economists"

                        And this is the same. Unfortunately, they will not take education without a foreign institution. And those trained there do not understand what is here ...
                      4. Snail N9
                        Snail N9 8 January 2019 10: 35
                        +10
                        Unfortunately, they will not take education without a foreign institution.

                        This is the answer to the question - why is the "elite" foreign education - "to go to power" .... well, not to a construction site as a master, right ... yes
                      5. Engineer engineer
                        Engineer engineer 8 January 2019 12: 22
                        +4
                        But it should be the other way around. To consider invalid "foreign" diplomas and certificates.
                      6. Engineer engineer
                        Engineer engineer 8 January 2019 12: 18
                        +2
                        And Kozyrev? Or did he not swear? Was he just assigned?
                      7. Claymore
                        Claymore 8 January 2019 14: 59
                        +6
                        Quote: Boris55
                        The one who was sworn in

                        Those. Are you trying to say that Putin, who was trained in the program of the American National Democratic Institute of International Relations in 1992-1996, still serves the USSR? laughing
                    2. New Year day
                      New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 55
                      +8
                      Quote: Boris55
                      You said only part of the saying. Continuation: "... not far falls, but rolls far"

                      there is another: Oranges will not be born from birch and aspen!
                    3. Nikolaevich I
                      Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 08
                      +5
                      Quote: Boris55
                      but it rolls far. "

                      Which way?
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 8 January 2019 11: 27
                        -8
                        Quote: Nikolaevich I
                        Which way?

                        Depending on the level of tilt of domestic and foreign policy in the country.
                2. Alf
                  Alf 8 January 2019 13: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: Boris55
                  I hope they are no longer children and the father is not responsible for them,

                  And when they were children, dad did not bear responsibility for their upbringing, since this happened?
            2. New Year day
              New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 53
              +6
              Quote: Boris55
              And by the way, are you annoyed by the words of Zolotov in the picture?

              Words, words, where is your sweetness?
              You can’t get the word out
              To promise is not to marry yet
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 8 January 2019 11: 25
                -14
                None of you have any complaints about his professional qualities, about his performance of his professional duties, at least I have not heard this from anyone. You all have a tendency to have his adult children send his grandchildren to the wrong place to study. So what? Do your children fulfill all your wishes implicitly? They don’t drink from you, don’t smoke, don’t swear, don’t spit on the street, don’t throw rubbish past the ballot boxes, give way to public transport for the elders, take the old woman across the road? Not?

                Don't you think you're bred?

                ps
                Look how many minuses have been pushed. Looks like they heard my call in the first post: "Who is for the destruction of Russia - join the traitors and kill him." ... Only instead of him they began to kill me, who dared to defend the statehood of the country. laughing
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 8 January 2019 11: 27
                  +11
                  Quote: Boris55
                  None of you have any complaints about his professional qualities, about his performance of his professional duties, at least I have not heard this from anyone.

                  claims on newspaper pages
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Are your children fulfilling all your wishes implicitly?

                  Yes
                  Quote: Boris55
                  They don’t drink from you, don’t smoke, don’t swear, don’t spit on the street, don’t throw rubbish past the ballot boxes, give way to public transport for the elders, take the old woman across the road?

                  Yes
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 January 2019 12: 39
                    -6
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    claims on newspaper pages

                    You are for Maidan right? belay

                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Yes

                    Apparently your kids are still lying across the bench. laughing
                    1. aleks700
                      aleks700 8 January 2019 12: 53
                      +6
                      Everything is easier. Yours study with the children of Peskov and others with him.
                2. kitt409
                  kitt409 8 January 2019 12: 36
                  +2
                  And who told you that our children do not scoop up the full program for something listed? They also learn, albeit not in the most useful way), but do not you think that you are trying to compare several different things ???
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 January 2019 12: 48
                    -9
                    Quote: kitt409
                    Don't you think that you are trying to compare a few different things?

                    It seems to me that they try to blame the unworthy on the uncomplicated and blame him for what he did not do.

                    Is he not right when addressing the opposition, he says that for them the people are just ... and that he is worthy of such a fate? Why does he not find support from you, saying that he will turn our enemies into a chop?

                    You know, so defending the opposition and so smashing their enemies, what goals does it pursue, what does it want, what kind of society does it want to build? Are you sculpting these cons for me?



                    Is he with them or is he against them? Who are you with?
                    1. Alf
                      Alf 8 January 2019 13: 38
                      +6
                      Quote: Boris55
                      Is he with them or is he against them? Who are you with?

                      And which of them did he turn into a chop?
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 8 January 2019 14: 31
                        -8
                        Quote: Alf
                        And which of them did he turn into a chop?

                        He, having openly told with whom he is, thereby stopped them. There were a lot of cutlets to do, the whole opposition sat on the outhouse, diapers in a hurry changed.

                        When they remove Zolotov with our hands, who will stop them?

                        The article is not about the professional unsuitability of Zolotov. The article has run over him for the deeds of his adult children.

                3. Oleg14774
                  Oleg14774 8 January 2019 16: 38
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  None of you have any complaints about his professional qualities, about his performance of his professional duties, at least I have not heard this from anyone. You all have a tendency to have his adult children send his grandchildren to the wrong place to study. So what? Do your children fulfill all your wishes implicitly? They don’t drink from you, don’t smoke, don’t swear, don’t spit on the street, don’t throw rubbish past the ballot boxes, give way to public transport for the elders, take the old woman across the road? Not?

                  Don't you think you're bred?

                  ps
                  Look how many minuses have been pushed. Looks like they heard my call in the first post: "Who is for the destruction of Russia - join the traitors and kill him." ... Only instead of him they began to kill me, who dared to defend the statehood of the country. laughing

                  No one argued about professional qualities, they had in mind normal patriotism in relation to their country, Russia.
                  The fact that he is special is yes, but I wouldn’t go with intelligence (this is an indicator of confidence, I’m not a scout), and Putin too.
              2. Boris55
                Boris55 8 January 2019 11: 39
                -12
                Quote: Silvestr
                Words, words, where is your sweetness?

                His words stopped the Maidan in Moscow and the collapse of Russia. The opposition realized that it would take full advantage of the Western persuasion that "they are children" will not work here. That's why they yapped at him ...
                1. kitt409
                  kitt409 8 January 2019 12: 38
                  +6
                  Trying to compare the boiling point and right angle, although close, but it's still different))
            3. aleks700
              aleks700 8 January 2019 12: 51
              +1
              No one bears responsibility for anything, neither fathers nor grandfathers for children. Only if the fate of the country does not depend on the grandfathers.
            4. Alf
              Alf 8 January 2019 13: 33
              +4
              Quote: Boris55
              And by the way, are you annoyed by the words of Zolotov in the picture?

              And how many chops did the golden one already make? Did you call Navalny to a duel? And when the duel took place, who won?
            5. Gardamir
              Gardamir 8 January 2019 14: 49
              +4
              Grandfather is not responsible for grandchildren
              I don’t know how grandfather is for grandchildren, and the head of the National Guard is raising terrorists, is it time for him to retire, at least?
        2. NG inform
          NG inform 8 January 2019 09: 08
          +7
          Yes, I must answer, or explicitly and publicly refuse them.
        3. Stas157
          Stas157 8 January 2019 09: 40
          +17
          Quote: Boris55


          Our enemies once again strike their blow at governing the country. They do not need a strong Russia, they need a Maidan. Zolotov is a hindrance in the realization of their dreams.

          So this is Zolotov against the enemies of Russia! Did he send a grandson to enemies in the UK with subversive activity ?? From where do you get these, Boris, with such sophisticated brains! Is it not from Olgino?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 8 January 2019 09: 47
            -10
            Quote: Stas157
            Did he send a grandson to enemies with subversive activity ??

            Tell me, and for the tricks of the great-great-great-great-grandchildren, will he answer the same? Do we have a legal state or maydanuty? Do we have the law or the wishes of the crowd? Or you are just really eager to destroy the government of the country, but the fact that Russia will be destroyed as a result of this will never reach you ... It’s a pity.

            What did you dislike about Zolotov’s words in the picture?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 8 January 2019 09: 52
              +16
              Quote: Boris55
              Tell me, and for the tricks of the great-great-great-great-grandchildren, will he answer the same?

              Yes, he is not responsible for himself, let alone for his grandchildren, a fucking duelist! He challenged me to a duel, but as soon as it came down to it, he did not show up for a duel (to meet with Navalny). Instead, he decided to sue, apparently the current duelists are so accepted! This "fighter against the enemies of Russia" would act in the circus, and not command the guard.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 8 January 2019 09: 57
                -12
                Quote: Stas157
                Yes, he is not responsible for himself

                He did not answer personally to Navalny, but to the entire fifth column. And judging by the fact that our Maidan did not take place, in spite of their attempts to rock people up by raising prices: for gasoline, VAT, housing and communal services, and even pension reform, the fifth column heard it and started to dirty it and you too ...
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 8 January 2019 09: 59
                  +11
                  Quote: Boris55
                  the fifth column heard him.

                  Yes, not only the column, all the people with him laugh!
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 January 2019 10: 05
                    -7
                    Quote: Stas157
                    all the people with him laugh at him!

                    And here I am - no.
                2. Engineer engineer
                  Engineer engineer 8 January 2019 12: 29
                  +2
                  I didn’t understand something? Who governs in our country?
                3. Alf
                  Alf 8 January 2019 13: 42
                  +4
                  Quote: Boris55
                  in spite of their attempts to rock people by raising prices: for gasoline, VAT, housing and communal services, and even pension reform,

                  Those. laws on the introduction of these "innovations" signed by the person not protected by him? And was not this person who declared from all the irons that he was a liberal?
          2. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 11
            +5
            Quote: Stas157
            Did he send a grandson to enemies in the UK with subversive activity ??

            No, no ... A grandson in the UK was taken with a disruptive purpose ...
        4. New Year day
          New Year day 8 January 2019 10: 49
          +10
          Quote: Boris55
          Should grandfather be responsible for the actions of children and grandchildren?

          Should, if badly brought up. Indeed, parents are deprived of parental rights for poor parenting. all according to law and morality, but not today

          Quote: Boris55
          Our enemies once again strike their blow at governing the country. They do not need a strong Russia, they need a Maidan.

          no one else is interested in power in the Maidan. And any Maidan can only be with the financial support of someone from the elite. Without this, there will be nothing. Betray others.
          Quote: Boris55
          Zolotov is a hindrance in the realization of their dreams.

          how? Do you hope for the guard? This hope will collapse with mass discontent and a wide geography of discontent. And with the first blood, the last brakes on both sides will collapse.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 8 January 2019 11: 50
            -7
            Quote: Silvestr
            Indeed, for poor parenting, parents are deprived of parental rights

            And this is nothing that his kids are far beyond 30? laughing

            Quote: Silvestr
            This hope will collapse with mass discontent

            How can we remember how some people jumped here, by the way, much earlier than in Kiev:



            And what happened with the most talkative:



            There is a desire once again to check the power of the Faberge fortress?

            By the way, for detente, a reprise about Putin’s Faberge, the opposition and the Russian Guard:

            1. New Year day
              New Year day 8 January 2019 12: 39
              +9
              Quote: Boris55
              And this is nothing that his kids are far beyond 30?

              children remain children as long as their parents are alive
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 8 January 2019 12: 55
                -4
                Quote: Silvestr
                children remain children as long as their parents are alive

                Yes, but parental rights are deprived only of those parents whose children have not reached the age of majority i.e. 14 years.
                1. New Year day
                  New Year day 8 January 2019 13: 07
                  +5
                  Quote: Boris55
                  children have not reached the age of majority i.e. 14 years old.

                  and what, in 14 years, they are already adults?
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 8 January 2019 13: 18
                    -3
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    and what, in 14 years, they are already adults?

                    In fact, with 18 comes of age, a person is considered fully competent and bears full responsibility for their actions .. With 14 - they issue a passport.

                    Constitution of the Russian Federation. Art. Xnumx
                    A citizen of the Russian Federation may independently exercise in full his rights and duties from 18 years.
                    1. New Year day
                      New Year day 8 January 2019 13: 36
                      +5
                      This is by constitution, and by life, fools. I myself was at that age
        5. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 8 January 2019 16: 34
          +4
          Quote: Boris55
          Quote: Doliva63
          Putin appointed Zolotov to the Russian Guard, everything is connected

          Aren't you worried about who blames Zolotov? When did these accusations begin? Should a grandfather be responsible for the actions of children and grandchildren? Can you tell me where the offspring of "our" billionaires from the Forbes list study?

          The arrival of the fifth column on Zolotov began from the moment when he openly declared that he was with Putin, that he was against the enemies of Russia.



          Our enemies once again strike their blow at governing the country. They do not need a strong Russia, they need a Maidan. Zolotov is a hindrance in the realization of their dreams. Who is for the destruction of Russia - join the traitors and wet it.

          Quote: Doliva63
          "What they fought for ...", as they say.

          For whom they voted (I mean the Duma), we live by such laws.

          Your -19 at the time 16:27 is the answer as far as you are right. More about Putin, say that he is right with the pension reform and VAT, rising gas prices and a bunch of other laws. We have resources, there are people who want to work honestly and in good faith, but they inspire us that we cannot do anything.
          Build factories, create jobs and do not have to go anywhere, but for this there should be planning for the state. level to know how many specialists, what and where to go.
          But it is not adaptive to a foreign country for our country; it’s like speaking different languages. So what Zotov said about his grandson, a specialist, is all crap.
          It was the USSR that won the war against the whole world, and including the United States and England here. It was the USSR that lowered food prices after the war and went into space first, and IT of the USSR proved that children of cooks and workers can build rockets, submarines, planes, orbital stations, and much more, and this education was in the USSR, and not ... England and the United States (instead of the ellipsis, anyone can insert any word expressing love and care for these .... countries).
  8. Tashkent citizen
    Tashkent citizen 8 January 2019 06: 53
    +28
    The son or grandson of a statesman, educated and convinced of the absoluteness of Western values, eventually becomes a high-ranking official and begins to function in accordance with these ideas. At the same time, he considers his homeland as a place if not a forced link, then a business trip.
    In addition to ideological motivation, while studying for the future agent of influence, a fair selection of compromising material is collected that will allow, if necessary, to “help” him to make the right decision. In addition, children or grandchildren, students or simply living abroad, are a great tool for influencing a statesman who would be foolish not to use if necessary.

    This is the worst thing. In 20-30 years these "well-bred children and grandchildren" will rule Russia.
    The country will come to a complete end in 20-30 years. And we can not do anything about it. We simply will not be allowed such as Zolotov. There will be a repetition of the collapse of the USSR. Now Russia is in line.
    We live in an "age of change". Very interesting and very scary.
    P.S. I understand that not everyone will like it. Waiting for cons. But I think that I'm not very wrong.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 8 January 2019 07: 22
      +5
      Quote: Tashkent
      The son or grandson of a statesman, educated and convinced of the absoluteness of Western values, eventually becomes a high-ranking official and begins to function in accordance with these ideas. At the same time, he considers his homeland as a place if not a forced link, then a business trip.
      In addition to ideological motivation, while studying for the future agent of influence, a fair selection of compromising material is collected that will allow, if necessary, to “help” him to make the right decision. In addition, children or grandchildren, students or simply living abroad, are a great tool for influencing a statesman who would be foolish not to use if necessary.

      This is the worst thing. In 20-30 years these "well-bred children and grandchildren" will rule Russia.
      The country will come to a complete end in 20-30 years. And we can not do anything about it. We simply will not be allowed such as Zolotov. There will be a repetition of the collapse of the USSR. Now Russia is in line.
      We live in an "age of change". Very interesting and very scary.
      P.S. I understand that not everyone will like it. Waiting for cons. But I think that I'm not very wrong.

      He always said that Russia does not have a capitalist future.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 8 January 2019 09: 34
        0
        Why is there no future? There is precisely the capitalist - no one will owe anyone, and "everyone dies alone", The fact that the "social state" is already finished is a fait accompli, and nothing more. The world, including Russia, will continue to live. But according to capitalist laws. The rest live on them and nothing.
    2. Olegater
      Olegater 8 January 2019 07: 57
      +7
      Good morning Dear Tashkent citizen!

      In one of my comments regarding this individual with shoulder straps, I told how his granddaughter, whom he is so "proud" of, can use insolently. If you are not lazy, then take a look. And in short, then through blackmail or threats to send it ... to the squeaks for real, they will force people to shoot in order to cause a riot or mass protests. Something like this. Nothing new.
      1. Tashkent citizen
        Tashkent citizen 8 January 2019 09: 09
        +7
        Good morning!
        Briefly, through blackmail or threats to send it .... to the skripals for real, they will force them to shoot at people, which would cause a riot or mass protests. Something like this. Nothing new.

        I agree. In ancient times, kings and kings exchanged children, who were left as hostages. This served as a kind of guarantee of peace. The non-aggression pact, so to speak.
        And now these (as it were, a decent word) would give their children and grandchildren abroad. They study there and live and feel fine.
        But has it ever crossed the minds of all this elite, what if they want to do there with their offspring? After all, sooner or later the moment will come when the need for the 5th column will disappear. The 5th column will fulfill its task. And that’s all. They are nobody else. And all that is acquired by overwork is confiscated. And you, as witnesses, together with your offspring you know where. Nobody loves traitors anywhere and never completely trusts them.
        Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, etc., also flirted with the west. But ours apparently think that the most intelligent. And this will not affect them. They are mistaken, and cruelly.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 8 January 2019 09: 29
          -8
          Quote: Tashkent
          And now these ... themselves are giving their children and grandchildren abroad. They study there

          Tell me, if our future managers would receive a USE education here, would it be better for the country or worse? What do you think?
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            1. Boris55
              Boris55 8 January 2019 10: 11
              -10
              This is our misfortune ... They ruined their education, and someone else's - educates strangers ... but in order not to completely bring down the country's governance, we are forced to use their services. sad
          3. Tashkent citizen
            Tashkent citizen 8 January 2019 11: 22
            +10
            Tell me, if our future managers would receive a USE education here, would it be better for the country or worse? What do you think?

            It's hard for me to say. I am familiar with the exam only in articles and broadcasts in the media. There is no USE in Uzbekistan.
            But I believe that a person should engage in self-education in parallel with the school curriculum. Then it will be good. I studied under the union. Where was the best education system (in my humble opinion). And the attitude towards teachers was incomparably better than now. Of course there were losers, loafers, there were those who were given everything relatively easily. But everyone was respectful to the teachers. Now everything is wrong - they can even send it easily. And parents trump be healthy. But 90% of young people are not interested in anything except House 2, tanks and other nonsense. Nobody likes to read. And studying well is a bad manners.
            A few years ago, one guy asked me, he was somewhere around 25-28 years old, and with higher education, a big fan of World of Tanks: What is Prokhorovka?
            Me: Where did you get this?
            He: Did you see the game?
            I had to explain. And then I was surprised to learn from him that the Great Patriotic War began somewhere around 1943. He certainly does not know.
            Ignorant in one word.
            Something like that.
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: Tashkent
      Waiting for cons

      Why wait for them? Cons are like cockroaches .... if the "ecological" situation is conducive ... will appear themselves.
    4. aleks700
      aleks700 8 January 2019 12: 57
      +1
      Waiting for cons.
      You will not get it! 100% rights
  9. Bull Terrier
    Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 07: 02
    -22
    for sure. and if a child is born to a grandson and goes abroad to study, Zolotov is to blame anyway. somehow he didn’t see that his great-grandson went abroad !!!. children have the right to choose where to study and for whom. our business is only to help them and not decide for them. and in general the topic is strange ... it's like banning cars so that there are no accidents. there are special services for working and finding all kinds of husks. I also want my daughters abroad to learn. watched the world made friends. learned languages ​​in their midst. got a good job. but didn’t settle at home, afraid to go somewhere, or suddenly the villains would begin to recruit.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 8 January 2019 07: 54
      +20
      And do not cast a shadow on the fence!
      It is impossible to prohibit this, it is true and correct, but it is NECESSARY to clearly state your position!
      This is to say, we don’t have to lie to us .... they are teaching patriotism, they are calling, everyone is not lazy .... tfu.
      SAY HONESTLY, your grandson, your children, choose their own fate (probably) and you, as a father, grandfather, do not consider yourself entitled to prevent this!
      But as a high-ranking GOVERNMENT official, you know, well-educated, trained in an ENVIRONMENT environment, your descendants are NOT SUITABLE for public service in our country, since they study in the camp of our unconditional ENEMY.
      All the officials, the top ones who teach the offspring, settle there - we can just say for now, since they hold power, they are Kan’s foe who cares about his selfish interests, do not serve the country or the people, but prepare new graves for our humps !
      And do not lie, sho valuable specialists will come from there, for the country, there are only your personal interests. In addition, you are ruining everything in the country, including the education system that you didn’t get here!
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 08: 19
        -13
        he is a grandson and not a son. he has his own dad; an example is generally wrong. if the father of the child wants to make a cool economist out of his son, then what does the grandfather and his Wishlist have to do with it? who said that the kid will go to the civil service? and more importantly, who cares where and how your relatives work? there are Zolotov. there is his position. there are requirements for him personally. and that’s right. even his children, too, may need to know what they are doing. but grandchildren ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 8 January 2019 09: 01
          +8
          This is just a typical example.
          By the way, he specifically indicated that the general could not prevent this, should not.
          Again, the general did not say / wrote that he had already prepared a "warm" place for his grandson, it was not!
          And now let's talk about our "lambs". You, we, the people (most of them) can assume that our top officials are such "patriots, statists," who will not look after their own interests and will not attach an "excellent economist", for example, to state structures and will move him up if it turns out , Shaw this "excellent economist" is a patriot, but not this country, and finally an economist so-so ???
          DO YOU BELIEVE IT?
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 09: 40
            -11
            guilty without guilt so to understand?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2019 10: 04
              +9
              Practice, the criterion of truth !!!
              Well, who have the learned, immeasurable patriot of OUR COUNTRY, working for the good of her and for her people, although she would just be worth it ???
              Et for the bureaucrats and other upper offspring-d-kids ask.
              We can’t lie, although we would use it ourselves? This is very useful, I think so.
              1. Bull Terrier
                Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 10: 22
                -9
                I just live by the law. guilty, answer. if not then no. so you label all around. This is a dead end.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 8 January 2019 10: 55
                  +11
                  Did you go to the bakery today?
                  My halves came in, by the way, she voted for her father’s father, could not convince her! So, as I came, so from the threshold I gave .... pritenziya !!! why then didn’t I convince her / let her go / didn’t nail ????? By the way, the expressions were so biting !!!!
                  No wonder I suggest, stop lying to yourself! And then, even if by law, live.
                  1. Bull Terrier
                    Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 11: 18
                    -9
                    and what does bread have to do with it?)
                    1. PSih2097
                      PSih2097 8 January 2019 11: 52
                      +9
                      Quote: Bull Terrier
                      and what does bread have to do with it?)

                      at the same time as gas stations, today he was also surprised at the gas stations of Sechin-Putin and Co. ...
                      1. Bull Terrier
                        Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 12: 00
                        -9
                        aah. you're talking about prices. Well, I’ve not bought bread for 10 years, but yes. has risen in price.
                      2. Alf
                        Alf 8 January 2019 13: 49
                        +5
                        Quote: Bull Terrier
                        and yes, benz. has risen in price

                        Are the sanctions to blame?
                      3. Bull Terrier
                        Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 14: 19
                        -5
                        How should I know? there was still not enough price to track. Well, in general, as a result, yes. from the age of 14 all the consequences.
                      4. Alf
                        Alf 8 January 2019 14: 28
                        +7
                        Quote: Bull Terrier
                        from the age of 14 all the consequences.

                        Of course, the sanctions are to blame. Sanctions, and not those who in the greasy oil years did not hesitate to raise their industry.
                      5. rocket757
                        rocket757 8 January 2019 14: 41
                        +2
                        I think not from the age of 14 it all began, but from the tagged and others like him. By the way, he, this is the starting point ..... but where we will go with his followers, only God knows!
                        If only they hadn’t talked about social issues and about caring for the country and people, it wouldn’t be so disgusting!
                        Capitalism, in its wildest form!
                      6. Alf
                        Alf 8 January 2019 14: 54
                        +4
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Capitalism, in its wildest form!

                        When people start complaining, I usually say, Wanted "stability", shouted "if it is not the same," why are you complaining?
                      7. rocket757
                        rocket757 8 January 2019 16: 14
                        +1
                        Stability, this is the case, with two ends, as always. Only we will not have stability, in that expression / condition that most people dream / sees in dreams!
                        Consider the topic on the other hand!
                        And who, and for whom, whom to entrust, again, our Wishlist / Dreams.
                        Scattered groups, individual figures, and no real unification, after all!
                        Even if the government is trying to clear out everything dangerous for it, to compromise, but this cannot be completely stopped if such a demand grows in society, in the country, among the people!
                        So guess now, the time has not come or have not reached the limit?
                      8. Alf
                        Alf 8 January 2019 16: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        So guess now, the time has not come or have not reached the limit?

                        Yes, but the fact is that all the revolutions were not made by crowds, but by relatively small groups of people. For example, in RI in October of the 17th Bolsheviks there were a little more than 30 thousand for the whole empire.
                      9. rocket757
                        rocket757 8 January 2019 16: 40
                        +5
                        Everything is correct, the main, stable skeleton, at the beginning of revolutionary events was not so large, on the scale of the empire! Therefore, they acted in alliance with other forces / parties, BUT! In order for Schaub to successfully seize the initiative later, one had to be recognizable, have a reputation, t.s! Which was done long before the most important events!
                        PLANNED, ADVANCED WORK!
                        By the way, it was important to seize the achievements of others, use them to your advantage!
                        No fools did a revolution! Something like this.
          2. Snail N9
            Snail N9 8 January 2019 10: 06
            +8
            There is also a joke in the fact that Western diplomas in Russia .... are not recognized at enterprises and in many other places, they ask and why are they studying abroad? It is clear that they should work there or "here", but under the wing of "daddy" ....
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2019 10: 13
              +6
              These .... deceivers, they will finish our education and then there will simply be no other diplomats!
              This is a very main topic, why those .... draggers should be beaten without delay! So far, everything and all prospects for our children have not been destroyed!
            2. Bull Terrier
              Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 10: 23
              -5
              with some joy they are not recognized? https://ido.tsu.ru/normdocs/dpo/rasp2777.pdf
              1. Snail N9
                Snail N9 8 January 2019 10: 54
                +1
                They read it, and they admit, even Carnegie Milon .... laughing
        2. Alf
          Alf 8 January 2019 13: 47
          +3
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          who said that the kid will go to the civil service?

          Really to the machine?
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          if the father of the child wants to make a cool economist out of his son

          And how are the successes of these cool economists? It’s enough to look into the wallet.
          1. Bull Terrier
            Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 14: 20
            -6
            pancake. Well, go get an economic education and do better. that it’s not a day, everyone is winging around but not us.
      2. Engineer engineer
        Engineer engineer 8 January 2019 12: 45
        +5
        And what about medicine? To treat them, KOZLAM, teeth with novocaine anesthesia and a "foot-operated" drill! And prohibit the use of modern materials and technologies of foreign production. Maybe then they will take up their hospitals? Toothache she is!
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 18
      +7
      Quote: Bull Terrier
      I also want my daughters abroad to learn. watched the world made friends. learned languages ​​in their midst. got a good job.

      Well, you have grown the "Wishlist"! At least reel on a tractor drum ...
      1. Bull Terrier
        Bull Terrier 8 January 2019 11: 19
        -10
        Yes, it’s not very difficult. the main thing that they would also like)
  10. Olegater
    Olegater 8 January 2019 07: 04
    +20
    Good morning forum users!
    You know, I liked one moment in the article about sodomy in these foreign closed schools !!!
    It's very cool, the bureaucrat sent his miscarriage there to "study", and there he was "lowered" and also threatened, if the bureaucrat gets drunk, then the video with the "process" is on the network !!! How interesting, but for this general, and for many "s" these offspring have already become passive homosexuals?
    Remember Chernomyrdin:
    The bureaucrats and the rich wanted the best, but it turned out, as always!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 January 2019 07: 45
      +8
      Quote: Olegater
      ..... threatened, if the bureaucrats rock the boat, then the video with the "process" on the network !!! How interesting, but for this general, and for many "s" these offspring have already become passive homosexuals?
      Here from this anger, to all other people who did not send their children! and arrogance, and obstinacy. I’m wondering, where are the PR managers of the general, hehe, in England?
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 8 January 2019 07: 56
      +4
      Now even Chernomyrdin himself does not come out!
      As always, it can be, but what did you want, for the country / people the best ??? I have big doubts.
      1. Olegater
        Olegater 8 January 2019 08: 00
        +4
        Good morning Dear rocket757!
        I say that it’s better for ones you love!
        That this Mr. would think of the people, I do not stutter at all!
      2. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 8 January 2019 08: 08
        +9
        Quote: rocket757
        ..... then sho wanted for the country / people the best ??? I have big doubts.

        I think generally --- spit! I re-read my comments above, the impression is that all liberalism, all the licks of the West, broke through: do not be silent !! One public sabotage is "cooler", more impudent than the other, ---- "the state should not ....", "enough for macaroshka .....", "there should not be pensions ..."., "Medicine should be paid ... ".," tax on the self-employed, they will not pay ---- plant .... "As in the tale about Buratino ----" One leech was so sucked in blood that it began to chat !!!!! "
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 8 January 2019 08: 52
          +8
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Reptiloid (Dmitry)

          Quote: Olegater
          Olegater (Olegater)

          Welcome soldier
          How strange it may seem, but I'm even glad that "our" officials and those who are out of the cage for the future management of the country, US, have begun to "cut" the truth of the uterus, then they are thinking about garlic to themselves, about us !!! To me all the sweet-tongued from above seem to be an even greater danger for MY COUNTRY !!! Why are these not very clever, not very sophisticated faces!
          After all, we have taken root in rural pastorals, there are dangerous illusions and stupid fears !!!
          Anything different - but here, the "dear father" promised !!! boyars are bad, let alone "dear father" how will he know, how will he take them and everything will be fine with us ??? and the worst thing is "no matter what happens" !!!
          All these "blows of fate", retirement gifts and other annoying chatter, and most importantly, really ripping off the last skin from many, actions !!! WILL MAKE many at least THINK !!!
          They pastorally are not blooming for a long time and besides they are huge! Make them think, resent, and the wave may go.
          It’s difficult .... but Moscow wasn’t built right away!
          1. Olegater
            Olegater 8 January 2019 08: 57
            +6
            I agree with you. And faster to think, all the people will teach an empty wallet.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2019 09: 08
              +5
              Quote: Olegater
              I agree with you. And faster to think, all the people will teach an empty wallet.

              My favorite is to poke everyone in the empty refrigerator! - the relationship with the wallet is direct!
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 21
      +3
      Quote: Olegater
      The bureaucrats and the rich wanted the best, but it turned out, as always!

      Well, yes .... they wanted the best for themselves; but it turned out: they feel good, but for Russia it’s bad ...
    4. kdakda
      kdakda 8 January 2019 11: 22
      +2
      Well, yes, he will return with a compromising evidence ready for him or already bought, and with rinsed brains.
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 8 January 2019 07: 12
    +11
    Interestingly, but on other / similar Nashen sites, they talk about the same / same?
    So far, the law has not covered the opinion / reasoning of the part of the people who can still think for the country, for themselves, for our future!
    We run into / mock the neighbors, and our people are stubbornly brought to the state of the herd and bred as ..... usually in such cases, on slogans and beautiful, sweet promises.
    All this is not fun or funny, it will end badly, if you consider yourself a patriot of a Great country, the heir to our ancestors!
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 8 January 2019 10: 36
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      our people are persistently brought to the state of the herd

      And why bring it if he has been like this for a long time. If tomorrow there is a decree to donate your kidney to the state-owned company headed by Rotenberg or Gref, it doesn’t matter, they will have a little talk, but they will be given the right to choose the right or the left, they will calm down and stand in line for the operation. The main thing in time to feed stories about the evil Americans and the British thinking to capture / destroy Russia because of the extremely great spirituality of the Russians.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 8 January 2019 11: 26
        +2
        Suppose stories are a reflection of reality, in this particular case ... Just do not add / do not open, the true reasons for this state. Tales, again, on both sides of the confrontation.
        Here is the wisdom of the people, we forgot - Bare quarrel, and the peasants crack at the peasants! - to the topic, to the very point!
        Here is the desire to go to the bodies, voluntarily-forcibly, I will not be expressed so categorically. Not everyone reached the state of an absolute herd, because they have not yet looked beyond the edge, and think on a larger scale, for everything and for later, we have not been taught at all !!! Too many live on faith and illusions. For a long time the people were accustomed to this, this cannot change at once.
        Unfortunately, the majority is still changing, studying, not wanting! Only through .... well, as if when it’s completely over the edge! Here to go to the authorities, it will be over the edge for the majority, my opinion is that.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 8 January 2019 11: 27
        +5
        Quote: Puncher
        our people are persistently brought to the state of the herd

        And why bring it if he has long been so

        Well, from which side to look ... here is the message: "Channel 1" and "Russia 1" turned off the comment page and dislikes during Putin's "New Year's address" because of the huge number of negative comments and dislikes! The people are waking up!
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 8 January 2019 16: 45
          +2
          A very painful medicine was prescribed to the people, with a dubious therapeutic effect, as the majority understood already!
          After the holidays, the "treatment" continues!
          I hope at least some of the citizens wake up, start to think with their heads!
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 January 2019 17: 45
            +5
            Quote: rocket757
            I hope at least some of the citizens wake up, start to think with their heads!

            And to prevent this from happening, we have the best ministry of propaganda in the world. Goebbels, looking at him, with envy in a coffin a fan depicts.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 8 January 2019 18: 55
              +3
              Yes, the usual work, to fool the people!
              Who has kept the brains, keeps his eyes open and does without pink glasses, this is not being done!
              Nobody has banned an alternative point of view. And the truth is to cut the uterus, while there is someone.
              Here is to combine a natural, creative protest !!! Our Danko is not yet visible !!!
              At the moment, we need, in addition to logic and sound reasoning, a bright, attractive charisma! Such, Schaub people went with faith, in a brighter future.
              It is necessary to alter the mood - No matter what happens! - it was painfully driven into a considerable mass of our compatriots!
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 8 January 2019 07: 39
    +21
    Vladimir Yakunin. He lives a happy and carefree life in Germany, and his children successfully settled in Switzerland and Great Britain during his work at Russian Railways. Elena Skrynnik, a former Minister of Agriculture, lives in a luxurious palace in France. She says that she bought it with money earned even before the civil service, doing business. In general, you can endlessly list what palaces our former "elite" have around the world. For example, ex-Deputy Finance Minister Vladimir Chernukhin in 2006 bought one of the most beautiful buildings in the City of London for 72 million pounds - the former Midland Bank office, recognized as a masterpiece of world architecture. And this is far from his only acquisition in London. And the total cost of two luxury villas in Cannes, owned by the family of the ex-mayor of Nizhny Novgorod, Oleg Sorokin, is about 4,4 million euros. But it is difficult to believe in the crystal purity of the money spent on the purchase of such meters. Our country is rich for the elite. which was and which is, there is enough for everyone. And we are told about patriotism in the New Year's speech, about rallying, shoulder to shoulder ..
    1. Tashkent citizen
      Tashkent citizen 8 January 2019 08: 02
      +10
      He says she bought it with money earned before the civil service, doing business.

      I don’t remember which of the rich said something like this:
      "Any millionaire or billionaire will explain and document the origin of all their money except the very first million."
      But in my opinion this expression of our oligarchs does not apply. Shish what they confirm or explain.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 January 2019 08: 10
        +12
        But on the other hand, "when the harsh hour comes," they all as one will stand shoulder to shoulder with the people .. They will not regret their wealth! Treasury and bellies will not spare! They will sell their yards and houses! And there will be few: wives, their children will be laid ... That, in principle, we are now observing ... smile
        1. Olegater
          Olegater 8 January 2019 08: 13
          +5
          Good morning Dear parusnik!
          These are all the right actions of this khalitka, only this will be done together with the enemies of Russia, against you and me.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 8 January 2019 08: 21
            +9
            They’re already doing this ... but they won’t do it ... It's a shame another thing, we are calling for patriotism ... they say here you have a VAT increase, an increase in the retirement age, I read it on the Internet, the State Duma adopted the law on liquidation of municipal unitary enterprises and state unitary enterprises in the first reading , etc., they say, be patient fellow sudariks, soon there will be relief, only we will deal with the enemies .. And ourselves .. U Skrynnik, what kind of business was this, before the civil service, that it could easily buy palaces. .
            1. Olegater
              Olegater 8 January 2019 08: 29
              +7
              It is precisely the traitors who call for patriotism and rallying, disgusting, although for them these all sorts of "potreots" with two and three passports for candy wrappers is not something disgusting, the money needs to be worked out, so they work out. They said to be patriots, they will be them, until a certain moment, they will say face, gnaw people, they will gnaw them with pleasure. In a word, they are obvious n-ry !!!!!
              1. parusnik
                parusnik 8 January 2019 08: 34
                +2
                That's the thing, unfortunately ..
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 8 January 2019 09: 26
                +4
                Quote: Olegater
                ...... They said they would be patriots, they will be them until a certain point, they will say face, chew on the people, they will gnaw with pleasure. In a word, they are explicit ..... !!!!!

                They are all just ----- foreign "canned food"
            2. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 8 January 2019 09: 46
              +5
              Quote: parusnik
              ...... Skrynnik, what kind of business was this, before the civil service, that she could easily buy palaces ..
              Yes, everyone knows the most profitable businesses. True, they are criminal, but very profitable .---- trade in arms, the slave trade, the oldest professions to organize, well, these, agricultural, um-hmm crops, crops ... somehow ....
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 8 January 2019 08: 24
          +3
          Quote: parusnik
          ..... Sell their yards and houses! But there will be few: wives, they will lay their children .... Which, in principle, is now being observed ... smile
          And soon they will go abroad !!!
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 8 January 2019 08: 32
        +1
        Quote: Tashkent
        "Any millionaire or billionaire will explain and document the origin of all their money except the very first million."

        simpler here ... laughing
      3. Errr
        Errr 8 January 2019 08: 44
        +5
        "All large fortunes were made dishonestly" - Ilf and Petrov, "The Golden Calf" - a classic ...
      4. Freeman
        Freeman 8 January 2019 11: 08
        +3
        Quote: Tashkent
        He says she bought it with money earned before the civil service, doing business.

        I don’t remember which of the rich said something like the following:
        "Any millionaire or billionaire will explain and document the origin of all their money except the very first million."
        But in my opinion this expression of our oligarchs does not apply. Shish what they confirm or explain.

        Maybe he
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 January 2019 08: 16
      +8
      Alexei, good morning! RZHUNIMAGU! A simple man, well, he can’t put his shoulder to those shoulders any closer. Some kind of absurdity!
      Here in RUSSIA24 was about the withdrawal of money from the Moscow region in this century, except for the one returned from France! What a terrible thing! If these funds were saved, and even if others were also saved, it would definitely not have been necessary to carry out pension reform for another 100 years!
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 January 2019 08: 25
        +8
        Of course, we hear more about the exported capital from Russia, but we have not heard the news how much capital has been returned to the country ... But you can be proud, there is something to export ...
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 8 January 2019 08: 34
          +7
          You see, Alexei, at that moment they were talking about housing and communal services of the Moscow Region! Eerie! But in our country, after all, other branches of the national economy serve as a feeding trough! When they say that in vain In the 30s they shot for economic violations --- oh, I do not agree! It’s good that the thieves were squeezed! Now what to squeeze them with? So after all, both lawyers and frauds ---- everyone is trying on paper to legalize and present thieves as white and fluffy.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 8 January 2019 08: 37
            +5
            To paraphrase a phrase from a famous film: There are a lot of feeders in Russia. That's for sure ..
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 8 January 2019 09: 59
            +4
            Quote: Reptiloid
            about housing and communal services

            Every year, the domestic housing and communal services produces dollar millionaires, and at least 50 people ...
        2. Alf
          Alf 8 January 2019 17: 48
          +6
          Quote: parusnik
          But you can be proud, there is something to export ...

    3. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 8 January 2019 10: 44
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      And they tell us about patriotism in the New Year’s speech, about rallying, shoulder to shoulder ..

      And why did they steal in your opinion, for the sake of a house near Orenburg or 6 acres in Ust-Kut? If the population of Russia allows them to do this, why shouldn't they do it? And patriotism ... Here the author also proceeds to them, they say, children fall under the influence of enemies while studying in foreign educational institutions, but commentators "hawala".
      Moreover, if they had the opportunity, then 100% would be for giving their children / grandchildren a European education, and using European medicine themselves.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 8 January 2019 11: 22
        +8
        .How do you value people low, they condemn them out of envy that some can and others don’t ... They did not condemn and did not envy ... medicine, education, salaries, pensions were better than in Europe .. The population allows, but no. ..this is not allowed to the population to monitor what would not be stolen .. If this is allowed, how to steal ...
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 8 January 2019 19: 05
          +3
          К
          Quote: parusnik
          .How do you value people low, they condemn them out of envy that some can and others don’t ... They did not condemn and did not envy ... medicine, education, salaries, pensions were better than in Europe .. The population allows, but no. ..this is not allowed to the population to monitor what would not be stolen .. If this is allowed, how to steal ...

          And how can a population follow if most of these actions are hidden? And as for condemnations from envy, it means to someone who thinks so --- this feeling is close and clear, envy for and without. If you recall the 90s ---- someone stole, appropriated the state, someone personally selected .... And how many people wanted to save the production, where they worked. There were defaults, but there was liability. Without any envy.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 8 January 2019 22: 25
            +5
            Dmitry, in Soviet times there was such an organization of people's control, they were more afraid of it than the OBXSS .. And do not forget, there was no democratic revolution in 1991, there was a criminal revolution, crime merged with the authorities before it .. And now they are not breaking up. . Those who were conceited were removed ... Just like in a gang .. In the People’s Control there was no need to write statements, like in Rosnadzor, they just got a call, they said they received the goods, but they didn’t put them on the counter, they came by the moment ... It’s a pity that the Tax Code merged with by the authorities ... and by the criminal ... They ask the peasant in the cell what they put him in for? He answers, but in the country, unlike the Igilovites, corruption is not prohibited, and I suffer for this ...
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 9 January 2019 13: 21
              +2
              Quote: parusnik
              Dmitry, in Soviet times there was such an organization of people's control, they were more afraid of it than the OBXSS .. And do not forget, there was no democratic revolution in 1991, there was a criminal revolution, crime merged with the authorities before it .. And now .... ..... In the People’s Control it was not necessary to write statements, as in the Rosnadzor, but just called, they said they received the goods, but they didn’t put them on the counter, they came by the moment ....

              The fact that there was no democratic revolution ---- this is clear. The biggest raider seizure. There is no other way to say.
              I didn’t know about people's control, I didn’t come across any mentions. But ----- "600 seconds". ----- I remember. Rather, not even 600 seconds, but talking about how they exposed and discovered hidden products. 1992 year. In the shops we fought in lines in a new area.
        2. Hole puncher
          Hole puncher 8 January 2019 22: 00
          +2
          Quote: parusnik
          How do you value people low

          Listen, the Western orientation of the Russian rulers is "the secret of the Punchinel", as if no one knows that their children study there, and they themselves are not treated in the Taishet regional hospital.
          Quote: parusnik
          this is not allowed to the population to monitor what would not be stolen

          And does the population seem not to know? For example, the former governor of Novosibirsk, when he was mayor, sold at a lower cost more than one and a half thousand! apartments of the waiting list, which they respectively did not get, but sat down for this his deputy. What should be imbecile in order not to understand his involvement in the crime? After that, he became governor and people voted for him.
          Quote: parusnik
          How do you value people low

          Based on the above example, how can you evaluate people who cast their votes for this criminal?
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 8 January 2019 22: 11
            +2
            You forget that since 1991 people have been faced with the choice of several evils, choose the lesser ... that’s what they choose .. And the candidates for governors, the heads of the districts, do not say on his face that he is a thief .. Plus a powerful brainwashing ... Porridge in people’s head, but the idea of ​​how to make money, bring children into people .. And they don’t care who is treated where and who has what castles abroad .. It’s good that you are so understanding ...
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      3. NordUral
        NordUral 11 January 2019 10: 31
        0
        Hole puncher!
        Moreover, if they had the opportunity, then 100% would be for giving their children / grandchildren a European education, and using European medicine themselves.
        I think that you are mistaken about 100%. But this applies to Soviet education.
        Although I would not refuse to broaden my horizons after a Soviet institute I would meet a semester or two at a Western university. But, as the base then it was the best with us.
  13. Errr
    Errr 8 January 2019 08: 38
    +4
    Among other things, in one of the videos, the oppositionist Navalny asked himself the question “what money do the grandchildren learn?” Zolotov in England. In late December, Viktor Zolotov, in an interview with Komsomolskaya Pravda, said:
    “My grandson is really studying in England. And his father pays for his studies. I want to say that the grandson is doing very well, I’m proud of him .. In three years he will return, and I’m sure that he will be a good economist. ”.
    Well, if they are all so smart, why then do they not go with the formation? soldier And then we have chronically in the same harness a swan, cancer and pike (Russian troika, God forgive me), and things are still there. By the way, does anyone know - who is Zolotov’s son that pays for his son’s foreign studies? I don’t ask about Navalny, - for people like him, the motherland is where they feed well. If only in Tahiti. Model mess.
    1. depressant
      depressant 8 January 2019 09: 27
      +5
      I envy optimists ...
      Who is Alyosha Karamazov? Wherever he went, people themselves gave him what he needed, even though he did not ask. Alyosha is Jesus. At the end of the novel, he leads the future revolutionary. Only a miracle will help us, namely the second coming of Christ - Dostoevsky knew his country. No miracle happened. The devil Woland was proposed in The Master and Margarita as an alternative miracle. And then - the warning novel "Roadside Picnic" by the Strugatskys. The naive Redrick Shewhart asks the Golden Ball for everyone's happiness, not realizing that he is addressing the Golden Calf. The teachers foresaw! And now, shaking our fists, we demand happiness for all of us, but at the same time we turn to the same Golden Calf, and he does not even hear us! And if he hears, he laughs at us! We don't have our own leaders!
    2. sgapich
      sgapich 8 January 2019 14: 51
      +4
      Quote: Herrr
      By the way, does anyone know - who is Zolotov’s son that pays for his son’s foreign studies?

      Zolotov’s grandson’s studies are paid for by Zolotov’s son-in-law, a certain Chechikhin, producer)
      1. Errr
        Errr 8 January 2019 18: 10
        +1
        Thanks for the info. I did not think at all that a grandson could be the daughter of a daughter. smile
      2. atash
        atash 11 January 2019 08: 06
        0
        Bulk means to get to the grandson of his daughter. Who do children not study abroad now? Yes, everyone is studying there. The child wants to study abroad and there is an opportunity - how do you refuse? my nephew got a piechdi in Warwick, now works there, got into the journal of this university as having made some kind of local breakthrough in research. What's so bad It makes sense to limit foreign study. You never know who there will learn. For example, we have a lot of religious studies abroad, for this part precisely restrictions are required. Well, and accordingly from private to general.
  14. NG inform
    NG inform 8 January 2019 09: 05
    +5
    Hence the question. If Navalny is an agent of the West, then why does he put Zolotov in the peak that his grandchildren will be agents of the West? Something is not beating.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 8 January 2019 09: 32
      +2
      Quote: NG inform
      Hence the question. If Navalny is an agent of the West, then why does he put Zolotov in the peak that his grandchildren will be agents of the West? Something is not beating.

      Probably because his shirt is closer, self-PR ?? And then ---- at least blame, at least not, their grandchildren have their parents and they will not stop studying there
    2. atash
      atash 11 January 2019 07: 58
      0
      Elementary disguise for example. Until someone else, not an agent, raised this topic, he fenced himself off from suspicion. Someone sooner or later, someone will raise and - and submit here bulk-mavalny!)
  15. Mihail55
    Mihail55 8 January 2019 09: 07
    +8
    I hate programs like "Comedy Club", but now I'm hanging on Slepakov's "House Arrest". A filthy movie (by the way, they filmed in Yaroslavl, and the burning house of VOS is very close to my house smile ), BUT after all there is PURE TRUTH !!!! Especially. that our mayor is still sitting. The impudence of those in power has already become commonplace ...
  16. lestad
    lestad 8 January 2019 09: 32
    +8
    For me, they are a priori bureaucrats and thieves
  17. Shaine
    Shaine 8 January 2019 09: 40
    +3
    “Russia may have any number of nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since the 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still figure it out: is it your elite or already ours?

    We will definitely deal with EVERYTHING, we in Russia are able to do this clearly .. negative
    Khodorkovsky alone is only worth something, he "sued" 50 billion green from Russia (with you and me))) Here is a criminal bastard ..
    Anger us gentlemen, anger .. How not to regret it later .. soldier
  18. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 8 January 2019 10: 16
    +10
    Quote: hydrox
    liberoids will always be able to object: "Education is everyone's personal business!"

    Is Zolotov a liberoid? Or is it still a patriot and loyal comrade of our President? Considering his "pride" in his granddaughter from England. Yes, he will gladly break his head to Navalny, the country's main "liberoid" ...
    Dastardly liberoids foaming at the mouth defending their antipode "patriot" Zolotov?
    So who is a "patriot" by job, and who is a "liberoid" by vocation? And how are they different? And do they not differ simply by the fact that some propaganda extols as "saviors of the fatherland" raising the Motherland from its knees ... after its destruction by their own idol Yeltsin? Personal presence at the opening of Yeltsin - centers everywhere shows who is who! And others, the same ... but not loved by propaganda - competitors (?), Is trying, at best, not to notice?
    And the people, as always, peck at the spreading propaganda cranberries .. and shout "hey him" .. Who is it?
    1. skif02
      8 January 2019 13: 20
      +4
      You should not simplify, not everything fits into the framework: a liberal or a patriot. Most likely he has convictions - to have power, income, status, to belong to the elite, preferably world. And under what flag - red, tricolor, stars and stripes, or even rainbow - does not matter. He is not against Russia, and not for the United States - he is always only for himself.
  19. gaudin
    gaudin 8 January 2019 10: 19
    -4
    as well as an introduction to sodomy, which is an important tradition of British educational institutions.

    Who about what and bald about a hairbrush.
    1. Hole puncher
      Hole puncher 8 January 2019 10: 51
      -3
      Quote: gaudin
      Who about what and bald about a hairbrush.

      Looks like a sore subject for the author ... Or trying to play on the postulate that in Europe there are only sodomites, as if they are not anywhere else.
    2. alauda1038
      alauda1038 8 January 2019 10: 51
      +5
      Among the British elite, sodomy is considered the standard of aristocracy and belonging to the elite is bad to not know the story
      1. Hole puncher
        Hole puncher 8 January 2019 21: 49
        -1
        Quote: alauda1038
        Among the British elite, sodomy is considered the standard of aristocracy and belonging to the elite is bad to not know the story

        You see, I am also special in these matters.
  20. Steel falcon
    Steel falcon 8 January 2019 10: 40
    +7
    All the quasi-Westernism of the leadership of the Russian Federation is nothing more than an ordinary cargo cult: to worship the West, but to rule and conduct business in the eastern way. The revival of the Russian State requires genuine, consistent and comprehensive re-Westernization, not ritual dances.
  21. alauda1038
    alauda1038 8 January 2019 10: 48
    +4
    Well, everything is natural. The Russian population is systematically replaced by guest workers. But the Russians are waiting for reservations and ghettos. Hence the conclusion of Vova with Russia or ...
  22. turbris
    turbris 8 January 2019 10: 49
    -10
    That is why this question of the denationalization of the elite arises periodically only in Russia? I have not heard about the relevance of this issue in the United States or China, other countries where citizens of these countries live and study around the world, why doesn’t it allow anyone to live with us? If children or grandchildren study abroad, is that almost a betrayal? What kind of nonsense? It seems that this ordinary envy does not allow anyone to live, if a person has the opportunity, and most importantly wants to get an education abroad, then let him get it! As for his political views, it already depends on his personal preferences, who do not like modern Russia, stay and live in other countries, just do not be like vile emigrants who make a career criticizing their homeland just to prove the correctness his move.
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    2. Alf
      Alf 8 January 2019 17: 56
      +4
      Quote: turbris
      if a person has the opportunity, and most importantly wants to get an education abroad, then let him get it!

      You, as usual, did not understand the essence of the issue. The point is not to prohibit a person from studying over a hill. The fact is that over the hill, along with education, they instill their own way of thinking. Moreover, this image consists of the basic postulate that the resident of the metropolis is a lord, and visiting students below the class and only the destruction of their country will make them equal to gentlemen. Someday, maybe ...
      1. turbris
        turbris 8 January 2019 23: 43
        -3
        You are very good at understanding who and what is being vaccinated there. It all depends on the students themselves and their parents, do not consider them primates. We also have many foreign students studying, and what do we instill in them?
    3. Andrey Grad
      Andrey Grad 10 January 2019 02: 36
      +2
      this is not only our problem
  23. APASUS
    APASUS 8 January 2019 10: 49
    +7
    I would formulate the question a bit wrong! How do children with foreign education end up in government? I don’t see anything so bad in education, though I would force it to confirm
    1. turbris
      turbris 8 January 2019 13: 22
      -8
      Why shouldn't they be in government agencies? The Constitution and modern legislation of Russia does not prohibit this, maybe it is enough to see a "shpien" in everyone?
  24. Nix1986
    Nix1986 8 January 2019 10: 55
    -11
    The author mixed green with a small size. What is wrong with studying and internship abroad, if in most areas our education lags behind ?! I see nothing wrong, I myself want to be competent as a specialist and also want to be treated by a competent doctor. And the exchange of technologies, as if not to take the military commissar, then we all work for some common good. The second point is that the enormous money of our state husbands is abroad, and the author is confused by this very moment that this money is abroad, but he wonders where he came from. In general, you need to dig deeper, and you are all on top, a superficial person is an author (who understood, a phrase from one, my favorite movie).
    1. turbris
      turbris 8 January 2019 13: 25
      +2
      That is exactly where the huge money came from our state husbands - the most pressing issue!
  25. edeligor
    edeligor 8 January 2019 10: 58
    +9
    Great article! The answer to many "unasked" questions. Only after reading it, there is a feeling of "theatricality" of the events taking place around our country and the adopted "landmark" bills ...
    a new world order will be built against Russia, on the ruins of Russia and at the expense of Russia
    - somehow at ease ...
  26. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 8 January 2019 10: 59
    +1
    Great post! Correctly showing the main problem of Russia. Do not forget that Gorbachev was the head of the KGB, you can imagine since when people loyal to the enemies have been recruited into the state security! Who and how weakened the USSR! Then they said: "the fish rots from the head," and what a rotten head said this - they blinked. I really do not like Navalny, primarily because he is stupid. It seems to everyone that Russia is rising from its knees, no, until the chubriks on Gelendvagens are laughing - the Sabbath will not end.
    1. turbris
      turbris 8 January 2019 13: 31
      +6
      This was when Gorbachev was the head of the KGB? What are you talking about, now I really don’t like you because you are stupid!
  27. Nait
    Nait 8 January 2019 11: 21
    +7
    It doesn’t matter who is responsible for or not responsible for (children for fathers, grandfathers for grandchildren),
    but for such a position there simply must be a restriction - no close relatives
    in the Anglo-Saxon foreign country.
    It’s like a reception at the Ministry of Internal Affairs - there should not be relatives in the zone.
    This is quite obvious.
    I think the conclusions will be made and the respected general will either resign,
    or take a grandson ....
    In general, it has already succumbed, it suddenly turns out that one of the main
    power propagandists has English citizenship, then grandchildren let down ...
    1. Nait
      Nait 8 January 2019 11: 24
      +11
      Again, this joke creeps into my head:

      Lavrov Shoigu calls after the appeal of the President of the Federal Assembly and says:
      - Listen, Kozugetovich, do not strike in New York, I have a daughter there.
      Shoigu replies:
      “Yes, I know. Fursenko also called about the USA. Mizulina asked not to beat in Belgium, Zhirinovsky in Switzerland, and Zheleznyak in London. Our others called, the list is really big ...... Pause. Listen Lavrov, where to beat then, in which case?
      - Mmm, Well, fucking in Voronezh, there are none of ours.


      Indeed, the Strategic Rocket Forces does not guarantee anything.
      The Union at the time of the collapse was the strongest military power - and so what?
      It’s a pity that Putin didn’t ask such a question at the meeting -
      Is he doing anything to rule out the emergence of the "Gorbachev-Eltsen" people in the future at the head of the country?
      Sense from these vanguards, if there is no will?
      1. Alf
        Alf 8 January 2019 18: 00
        +3
        Quote: Nait
        It’s a pity that Putin didn’t ask such a question at the meeting -

        At the talking shop, all the questioners were told very clearly what questions could be asked and what topics were categorically not worth it. Like the spotted one with its "communication with the people".
    2. Alf
      Alf 8 January 2019 17: 58
      +4
      Quote: Nait
      I think the conclusions will be made and the respected general will either resign,
      or take a grandson ....

      Do you believe it yourself? Zolotar is proud of his grandson.
  28. Silhouette
    Silhouette 8 January 2019 11: 38
    -11
    The denationalization of the Russian elite took place after the Bolshevik coup under the slogans of internationalism and world revolution. Part of it was destroyed by genocidal methods, part was expelled by "philosophical steamers", part of it emigrated itself. The small part that remained in Soviet Russia was deprived of civil rights and became disenfranchised, completely excluded from the social life of the country. The country for a short period of time turned out to be ownerless, run by temporary managers. There were people in the country, but they did not have property. It was possible to build a house, but the house stood on land that did not belong to the owner and was a temporary structure. The time of ownerlessness ended in 1991 and since then the land gradually began to receive its rightful owners for all times, who live outside the country. The country has become a crypto colony and is being trained for the colonial elite in the West. Nothing new.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 8 January 2019 12: 00
      +10
      Quote: Silhouette
      Denationalization Russian elite occurred after the Bolshevik coup under the slogans of internationalism and world revolution.

      And the fact that they themselves brought the country to the February and then to the October revolutions is how?
  29. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 8 January 2019 11: 49
    0
    Traitors have always been. No traitors - no heroes.
  30. kriten
    kriten 8 January 2019 11: 53
    +9
    The reasoning about what is normal when the children of rulers study, and then live there, only says that the country is ruled by traitors to the interests of the people. Peskov brought up his daughter that Russia is populated by cattle, which is not only respected, but despised.
  31. aleks700
    aleks700 8 January 2019 13: 03
    +8
    In fact, everything should be simple. Wants a child to study abroad - please! Relatives out of the civil service automatically. Children want to live abroad to have real estate there, please! From the civil service there’s an automatic machine for dad, mom, grandmother, grandfather, sister, brother, uncle, aunt. And let's see who goes where
    1. Alexander X
      Alexander X 8 January 2019 13: 28
      +8
      By the way, in the USSR, in the presence of close relatives abroad, workers were no longer allowed to be secreted. They were not given the admittance of f.1 and f.2 ... and rightly so, because the person is weak ... Well, at least this was accepted at defense enterprises ...
  32. Alexander X
    Alexander X 8 January 2019 13: 25
    +7
    The article is written absolutely true. There will not be a child who grew up in a foreign hostel as a patriot of his homeland. I’m not talking about recruitment, compromising materials, set-ups, and just about the corruption of free or involuntary .... This is not our elite. These are future temporary workers on bread places who regard Russia as a gratuitous feeder. Not not as your own nest, which must be protected .... IMHO ...
  33. iouris
    iouris 8 January 2019 13: 39
    +3
    This is the anti-Russian elite. And they have the money, because they are in power. Real power only shows you the "majors". More than once, not twice, the Brzezinski and McCains pointed out to us that where they have money, there they have their fatherland. Proletarians, for the same reason, have no homeland.
  34. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 8 January 2019 13: 41
    +5
    Zbigniew Brzezinski once said: “Russia can have as many nuclear suitcases and nuclear buttons, but since 500 billions of dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, will you figure it out: is it your elite or is it already ours? I do not see a single situation in which Russia will use its nuclear potential. ” In this rather accurate statement, the American political analyst and politician touched on only one way to “denationalize” the elite, and not the most important one. After all, money, in the end, and you can donate. There are other, even more efficient technologies.

    And they have been used for a long time.
    How to defeat a nuclear power without using nuclear weapons?
    -To educate the younger generation of the enemy on their cultural "values".
    What do you need?
    -Aim, time, money.
    How is this happening with us?
    - Through American comics in our stores, through the educational programs "Hello Kolenka", through newspapers, magazines, TV, movies, Internet, advertising. Through the propaganda of the imposed "friendly" system. We are now the same bourgeois as you are, aren't we?
    And if the operation is successful, who will manage this, sorry, "reformatted livestock" in the field?
    For this, they train "managers" from among the local "elite" in the USA, England, Belgium, etc. What generation is already studying there how to "do business in Russia correctly"?
    In addition, D. Puchkov explains how we are "treated" in my clear, simple language. More details here:
    1. BAI
      BAI 8 January 2019 14: 45
      +3
      For this, they train "managers" from among the local "elite" in the USA, England, Belgium, etc.

      Yes, it is not necessary to study abroad. There is HSE in Moscow, there is the European University in St. Petersburg. Surely there are similar "universities" in other large cities of Russia. All the same, fortunately, the children of high-ranking officials are genetically incapable of anything, and when their parents leave power, they themselves, as a rule, find themselves overboard (families of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, etc.). Therefore, we need workhorses - graduates of Russian universities, agents of influence.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 8 January 2019 15: 16
        +4
        Quote: BAI
        Yes, it is not necessary to study abroad. There is a HSE in Moscow, there is a European University in St. Petersburg.

        I agree, but the above educational institutions participate in training, it seems to me, according to the rank of the parents. The elite is not homogeneous in income, influence and position in the system. For this, whoever is higher, the kids learn "further" from that.
  35. VLR
    VLR 8 January 2019 13: 52
    +7
    Of course, officials and their families should be treated, study, rest only on the territory of Russia. If an official knows that he or his child will have to be operated on in a Russian hospital, and not in Germany or Israel, he will revisit the principles of health care financing by percentage. If he knows that studying for his daughter or son in Russia, he may think about the quality of education at Russian universities so that at least several of them are not worse than Stanford or Harvard. He will know that he will not go to Karlovy Vary, but to Pyatigorsk, he will think about the quality of Russian sanatoriums and the improvement of the resorts.
    By the way, I learned that graduates of medical universities and doctors will now undergo so-called accreditation. What for? It turns out that with this procedure, their diplomas will be immediately recognized abroad. Before that, I had to confirm. And I have a question: for whom do our budget (!) Medical universities train doctors? For Russian hospitals or Israel, Germany, USA? Where do graduates now, given the Russian salaries, have a direct reason to go to work? To some hospital in Tambov or Saratov? Or "not to waste time" and go straight to Munich, Haifa, Birmingham or Bruges? What is this if not sabotage? I understand that doctors, especially young ones, with knowledge of the language, which is not uncommon now, might be beneficial. And what about society? Maybe it’s better to give her this accreditation instead of her normal salaries and let them stay with us?
    1. BAI
      BAI 8 January 2019 14: 38
      +9
      Graduates of medical universities and doctors will now undergo so-called accreditation. What for? It turns out that with this procedure, their diplomas will be immediately recognized abroad. Before that - had to confirm. And my question is: for whom are our budgetary (!) Medical universities preparing doctors? For Russian hospitals or for Israel, Germany, USA?

      Well, you are an optimist. Even India has ceased to recognize Russian medical diplomas - the quality of education has fallen so much. In Israel, our doctors need to undergo qualification courses - that’s for sure, it seems that we still need to practice under the guidance of a local doctor and only then is admission to independent work.
      When I was in Israel, local doctors threw away all of the Russian examinations without looking and all the examinations on a new one were with them. Although the accuracy of the data on blood tests is worse by ORDER! In Russia up to thousandths, in Israel up to hundredths.
      So, at the expense of mass emigration of graduates of medical schools, you can not worry. Neither they nor us (patients) are at risk. The quality of training is steadily declining and no improvement trend is expected in the near future.
      1. VLR
        VLR 8 January 2019 16: 39
        +1
        As for the analyzes, I think they just decided to dilute you by a couple of hundred shekels, because, as far as I know, no one counts blood and other liquids manually now - everywhere there are analyzers of the same companies that have captured the market. And the second reason is psychological: to immediately show that, they say, "professionals" work, and in Russia, respectively ...
        And about the Russian doctors - wherever you come, it turns out that they work there. In Germany, Israel, Finland, the United Arab Emirates, even read in Saudi Arabia. So, somehow arranged. In principle, probably, it is easier to get a job in any local specialty than in a newcomer.
      2. Andrey Grad
        Andrey Grad 10 January 2019 02: 47
        0
        Russian diplomas do not want to acknowledge so as not to create competitors in a system where everything is already divided, including patients.
  36. samarin1969
    samarin1969 8 January 2019 13: 57
    +3
    The article was several decades late.
  37. BAI
    BAI 8 January 2019 14: 28
    +8
    I have already written several times: the West is working with young people for the future. Our Foreign Ministry and Government - with the old people already in power - i.e. to the grave. They will die - who will replace them? Pro-Western youth. Not today - so tomorrow, not tomorrow - in a week, but will come. And there will be a pro-Western regime in the right state.
    1. Steel falcon
      Steel falcon 8 January 2019 15: 36
      -1
      The West is attractive by its standard of living, culture, values ​​and institutions, the Russian Federation cannot boast of any of this, because culture is abandoned, and statehood is at the level of the XNUMXth century, and that remains to be limited to the patronage of that part of local elites who do not want to burden themselves with any rules, and those who did not find a cartridge in Europe or America.
      1. Alf
        Alf 8 January 2019 16: 12
        +5
        Quote: Steel Falcon
        The West has an attractive standard of living,

        Not for all.
        Quote: Steel Falcon
        culture

        In a restaurant a woman pays.
        Quote: Steel Falcon
        values

        Same-sex families?
        Quote: Steel Falcon
        institutes

        Which ones?
        1. Steel falcon
          Steel falcon 8 January 2019 16: 57
          -2
          Not for all

          For an Arab or Turk, Germany is a country with rivers of milk. The Western way of life is the standard for all.
          In a restaurant a woman pays.

          This is more likely in the next paragraph. The history of mankind is 90% the history of Europeans, the culture of mankind is 99% the culture of Europeans. The culture of the peoples of the West is the standard for all.
          Same-sex families?

          Including. Individual freedom is the property of exclusively Western civilization. Everyone wants to be free, and in terms of freedom, the West is the standard for all.
          Which ones?

          Private property, rule of law, inalienable rights, etc. The Western model of building a society is a standard for all.
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 January 2019 17: 37
            +5
            Quote: Steel Falcon
            The Western model of building a society is a standard for all.

            Not for everyone.
  38. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 8 January 2019 15: 28
    +2
    Quote: skif02
    he has beliefs - to have power, income, status, belong to the elite, preferably world

    Beliefs? And such "beliefs" of the majority of the so-called. elite? So who is the remaining patriot in power? Desirable for our long-suffering fatherland. Or only a representative of the plebs has the right to be called a "patriot"?
    And if, for example, Stalin also had a "conviction" to have power ... can he be put next to the modern Zolotovs?
  39. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 8 January 2019 15: 28
    +5
    Quote: Alf
    You are welcome ! Let him study at least at Harvard, at least at Yale. It is only after this that the path to state structures should be closed to him.

    And not only in government! After all, these boys do not plan to return to work as janitors, and they can spoil the country skillfully not only by working in state structures! The law should be such that, from a perspective point of view, it was NOT FAVORABLE to send your children to study over a hill!
  40. seacap
    seacap 8 January 2019 15: 52
    +11
    What else can we talk about when the top officials of the state are closely immersed in family and material ties abroad and do not in any way connect their future with their homeland and people, but deeply despise them and consider them exclusively as a source of profit and obtaining preferences from the new masters, promoting and protecting the interests of their "partners" at the expense of the people. The same applies to the so-called. oligarchs, I apologize, effective managers who do not even try to at least imitate any interest in the development and prosperity of their native country, without living in it, sucking all the vital juices from its body, pumping funds into the economy of a hostile power, solving it problems and paying for their development at our expense, humiliating and groveling, trying to prove that they are the same as those. Not realizing that no matter how many palaces they buy, no matter how many yachts the size of an aircraft carrier they build, no matter how much money they bring to Uncle Sam on a silver platter, pulling out the last piece from a hard worker, they will still be the nouveau riche there, traitors despised by second-class people , powerless and defenseless, because do not have behind their backs a power capable of protecting them, which they themselves killed with their own hands and surrendered to the enemy for plunder and outrage. A system built by betrayal, treason and crime, where the main institutions of the state structure are based on nepotism, corruption and lies, where literally all spheres of state activity are saturated with lies and cynicism, such a system is not capable of prosperity, the development of the creative potential of people and the state. They just have to wait a little, speeding up this process with all their might, when the generation with Soviet upbringing and education will die out, and will be replaced, so successfully for several generations, brought up by the system of providing education services of "advanced consumers" who do not remember kinship and have nothing sacred in the soul of ruck boys. All the media, especially TV, zombies the population with all their might, with their miserable air, news about snow in winter in Russia, a garbage dump, completely stupefied with babal, permissiveness, licentiousness and immorality, sheer irresponsibility. They are supposed to be ruled by the graduates of all these Yale, Oxford and other textbooks, "correctly" brought up and trained from the inherited estate of the new boyars and nobility. And then, finally, the age-old dream of all our "well-wishers" about the final solution of the Slavic question will come true.
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  42. A. Bolik
    A. Bolik 8 January 2019 17: 33
    +7
    They study abroad not because of education, but because of the great show-offs of their parents (and their own, most likely).
    And you have to go back. They are nobody there. Yes, and will have to work, and we will immediately attach a DEFECTIVE manager, or a deputy, closer to the money, to cut the budget. And the grandson of a general of the Russian army, only here we are born with shoulder straps of generals in diapers. In Germany, in my opinion, they recently sentenced one, to 10 years in prison, for attempted murder. Speeding is 50-100 km. And with this, even if people are beaten up, they won’t even hit with a finger.
    Just yesterday I was reviewing the film "Voroshilovsky Shooter". Absolutely nothing has changed in a quarter of a century.
  43. Dull
    Dull 8 January 2019 17: 54
    +10
    Quote: Boris55

    Quote: Stas157
    Yes, he is not responsible for himself

    He did not answer personally to Navalny, but to the entire fifth column. And judging by the fact that our Maidan did not take place, in spite of their attempts to rock people up by raising prices: for gasoline, VAT, housing and communal services, and even pension reform, the fifth column heard it and started to dirty it and you too ...

    And who is shaking something by raising the price of gasoline, raising the retirement age, VAT, utilities and so on ...? Didn't the Guarantor sign it all? Probably at gunpoint? Did the Fifth Column prepare all this? Our "Derzhimorda" did not let the Maidan flare up, or did it simply suppress the protests of old people against the lawlessness of the "Boyar"?
    I’m wondering, not a single comment from Boris 55 has any advantages, and the title is growing. And what would that mean? wassat laughing
  44. Varaga
    Varaga 8 January 2019 18: 03
    +1
    It is no secret that the opponents of our country do not give up hope and attempts to play on internal Russian contradictions and blow up the state from within using the “color revolution”, coup or rebellion
    And no matter how it seemed to someone stupid, but it really is. And it was. And it will continue.
    It all depends on us and future generations. Let us allow ourselves to be made "ruminants" in their image and likeness - to us and our country "khan".
    God grant that we survive ...
  45. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 January 2019 18: 40
    +3
    Well, and who protects Russia. Yes, no one.
  46. tank64rus
    tank64rus 8 January 2019 18: 52
    +2
    Well then, this grandfather general must resign if he is a patriot of his country.
  47. DLYP05
    DLYP05 8 January 2019 21: 10
    +2
    What can I say! ! They hold positions, and brains, like a chicken. It is known for 300 years! It is clear that not smart people go to power, but those who have a flexible back and soft tongue! Brains are not needed there.
  48. rostorlov80icloud.com
    rostorlov80icloud.com 8 January 2019 21: 20
    -7
    Again post-Soviet syndrome of besieged fortress in every word.
    We must strive to ensure that every child can have the opportunity to study at any educational institution at his discretion and desire, and not to invent another nonsense aimed at installing horse shores in the eyes of our children.
    1. Clone
      Clone 9 January 2019 12: 20
      +4
      Quote: rostorlov80icloud.com
      so that every child can have the opportunity to study at any educational institution at their discretion and desire

      I’d like to erect a monument during my lifetime, but at least a bust in the homeland of the one who expressed this, one might say, imperishable text. fellow
      And this is proposed to be carried out in a state where, against the backdrop of indestructible corruption, the property and financial stratification of society has reached fantastic proportions ...
    2. Invoce
      Invoce 9 January 2019 17: 20
      0
      Quote: rostorlov80icloud.com
      so that every child can have the opportunity to study at any educational institution at their discretion and desire

      Well, yes, yes ... I did what I wanted to ... I, FOR! and Aunt Masha, a cleaner at workshop 22 of ChTZ, is also for her grandson to go wherever he wants ... It is necessary to adopt the Law on countering the influence of relatives on the results of admissions commissions of educational institutions! An attempt to influence is equated to corruption on an especially large scale or to treason!
  49. Radikal
    Radikal 8 January 2019 21: 27
    +4
    The article, and respect to the author, but the problem is broader and more dangerous. It is clear that it is impossible to reveal such a topic in one article, but it is desirable. This is much more useful and productive than a "multi-part opus" on VO about the allegedly working class, with quotations from the theorists of Marxism-Leninism pulled out of context and interpreted in the key that the author needs! hi
  50. Radikal
    Radikal 8 January 2019 21: 30
    +7
    Quote: tank64rus
    Well then, this grandfather general must resign if he is a patriot of his country.

    And if not a patriot? More precisely, a patriot, but not of his country, but of his wallet? winked