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New Year's “gift” from Ukraine - that Il-76 delivered to the USA

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Il-76 “Candid” transport aircraft [the designation of the machine in the NATO classification] of the Ukrainian Air Force appeared at the site, which is owned by the National Guard Air Force and is located at Salt Lake City International Airport. American edition The Drive tried to find out the purpose of this visit - that the plane delivered to the United States. The following reflections are written by Joseph Trevitchik.


On the morning of January 3, for the first time in the United States, one of the five servicemen in the service of the Ukrainian Air Force Il-76 noticed “hunters” following aircraft. He was heading from Ottawa / Macdonald – Cartier International Airport (Eastern Canada) to the west. Then the car landed in Salt Lake City. At the same time, the aircraft was designated as 737 airliner with registration UR-IVK, which formally belonged to the Ukrainian airline DneprAvia. But the fact is that it does not operate any flights to the United States.

New Year's “gift” from Ukraine - that Il-76 delivered to the USA




After that, spotter Anthony Karpeneti posted a photo on the Web confirming that the aircraft in question was indeed an IL-76 and was located at the National Guard Air Force Base. Roland R. Wrightlocated east of Salt Lake City. The 151 squadron of KC-135R tankers is located on this object. As explained by the representative of the National Guard under Kevin Larsen, carried out "loading of a mobile asset of a radar destination" in the interests of the air base Hill.




However, it is unclear why the IL-76 delivered the radar to Salt Lake City, and not directly to Hill, which is located a few dozen kilometers to the north. At the same time, it is known that Hill uses two training grounds located in the United States (NTTR and TTR). As you can imagine, Ukraine handed over to the United States radar, which will serve as an imitation of enemy air defense.

Ukraine, a US-friendly former Soviet republic, is becoming an increasingly valuable source of equipment of this type.



36D6М1-1 Radar


Earlier it was reported that in September 2018, the United States received a Ukrainian 36D6М1-1 radar, connected with a C-300 class rocket system. Modifications of C-300 remain in service with Russia, as well as many other countries of the world, including other potential opponents of the United States, such as Iran. A new delivery from Ukraine may turn out to be an identical or similar system, which will give a practical opportunity to compete with electronic warfare or radar equipment. In addition, foreign combat systems can be an extensive source of intelligence information.

It is quite possible that we will see similar “gifts” from Ukraine in the near future, especially considering Kiev’s particularly cold relations with the Kremlin.
Photos used:
https://ukroboronprom.com.ua ; https://twitter.com/CivMilAir ; https://twitter.com/AviationPhotoAC
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  1. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 4 January 2019 11: 19
    +94
    The Mazepa affair lives and thrives ... Finish along the way as well.
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2019 11: 26
      +39
      The Georgians used the 36D6-M radar in the 2008 year.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 4 January 2019 11: 27
        +4
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        The Georgians used the 36D6-M radar in the 2008 year.

        Ended up with what?
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2019 11: 30
          +14
          Georgian air defense crushed.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 4 January 2019 11: 32
            +5
            Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
            Georgian air defense crushed.

            Less territory.
        2. askort154
          askort154 4 January 2019 11: 52
          +21
          Andrey Chistyakov ...Ended up with what?

          It was destroyed by an anti-radar missile launched from the Su-34 (according to other sources with the Su-24, or Su-25). Although, most likely with the Su-34.
          1. Random
            Random 4 January 2019 14: 44
            +8
            Quote: askort154
            Although, most likely with the Su-34.

            Good afternoon, Sasha! Here you are mistaken.
            It is Su-24M, missiles X-58, 455 bap soldier
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 4 January 2019 14: 50
              +8
              Quote: Random
              Good afternoon, Sasha! Here you are mistaken.
              It is Su-24M, missiles X-58, 455 bap

              Seryoga, hello! Read it?
              Soviet and Russian military equipment in the US military and testing centers
              https://topwar.ru/147639-sovetskaja-i-rossijskaja-voennaja-tehnika-v-vooruzhennyh-silah-i-ispytatelnyh-centrah-ssha.html
              Photos from the article

              Base storage of military equipment of Soviet and Russian production at the Eglin range

              Soviet-made equipment at the Avon Park test site. In the same row, from left to right: Osa-AKM short-range air defense system, Elbrus self-propelled self-propelled launcher with OTP P-17, Kvadrat mobile air defense system, armored personnel carriers and Shilka ZSU-23-4
              1. Random
                Random 4 January 2019 14: 56
                +5
                Quote: Bongo
                Seryoga, hello! Read it?

                Namesake, hello dear " drinks
                I read it ... nothing surprising ... but for some reason in their "stall" there is no our S-300V, "donated" by the "winemaker", and the S-300, "donated" by the Belarusians sad
                https://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/112104-kak-dostalas-amerikancam-nasha-zrs-s-300.html
                https://alexandr-palkin.livejournal.com/1776987.html
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 4 January 2019 15: 03
                  +10
                  Quote: Random
                  I read it ... nothing surprising ... but for some reason in their "stall" there is no our S-300V, "donated" by the "winemaker", and the S-300, "donated" by the Belarusians

                  There are S-300PT / PS launchers, take a closer look, they are among the hangars. And also: SAM S-75 and Krug. The S-300P and S-300V air defense systems are located at the Tonopah test sites in Nevada and White Sands in New Mexico.
                  1. Random
                    Random 4 January 2019 15: 04
                    +10
                    Quote: Bongo
                    The S-300PT / PS launchers are there, take a closer look, they stand among the hangars. And also the S-75 and Krug air defense systems.

                    This is what it means "getting old" and .. "decrepit" what ... I can’t decrypt pictures myself sad
                    Thanks friend drinks soldier
                    1. Bongo
                      Bongo 4 January 2019 15: 06
                      +6
                      Quote: Random
                      This is what it means "getting old" and .. "decrepit" what ... I can no longer decipher the pictures myself sad
                      Thank you, friend drinks soldier

                      Okay, don't slander yourself. Just the angle is not too good. drinks
                    2. zyablik.olga
                      zyablik.olga 4 January 2019 15: 15
                      +6
                      Quote: Random
                      This is what it means "getting old" and .. "decrepit"

                      Sergey, hello! I am glad that you are again with us. Seryozha told about your dog, very sorry ... crying
                      Quote: Random
                      I can not decipher the pictures myself :(
                      Thanks friend

                      Well, here Seryozha sat down on his favorite skate, you see the professional skills and talents once obtained do not give you peace of mind. lol And today he helped to write an analytical note on the possible consequences of withdrawing from the DPRM. Oh, not so he is engaged in life, not so ... request
                      1. Random
                        Random 4 January 2019 15: 21
                        +4
                        Quote: zyablik.olga
                        Well, here Seryozha sat on his favorite skate

                        Olenka, dear, love Glad to "hear" on the air fellow
                        Do not "swear" ... a man should have a "favorite hobby", and even more so he has it to do with the profession, so ... "be patient and .... carry" ... all the "hardships and hardships" wink
                        Quote: zyablik.olga
                        Oh, not what he does in life, not that

                        To those, Olenka ... THEME drinks
                      2. zyablik.olga
                        zyablik.olga 4 January 2019 15: 30
                        +3
                        Quote: Random
                        Olenka, dear, love I'm glad to "hear" on the air

                        And I am very glad, thanks for the flower. we were very worried about you when we disappeared from the connection.
                        Quote: Random
                        Do not "swear" ... a man should have a "favorite hobby", and even more so he has it to do with the profession, so ... "be patient and .... carry" ... all the "hardships and hardships"

                        But what "hardships and hardships" can there be for civilians? Everything is already in the past ... especially since we started our own business. As for the "favorite hobby", it is who studied what ... the skill is not drunk. lol
                        Sergei passed out already, I'm for him ... wink
                      3. Random
                        Random 4 January 2019 15: 34
                        +3
                        Quote: zyablik.olga
                        Sergei passed out already, I'm for him ...

                        Well ... and you say ... "what hardships and hardships ..." wink love
                      4. zyablik.olga
                        zyablik.olga 4 January 2019 15: 36
                        +4
                        Quote: Random
                        Well ... and you say ... "what hardships and hardships ..."

                        We have a night already, it's me a late bird. Yes, and the meatballs on the stove still reach tomorrow.
                  2. mintai_kot
                    mintai_kot 5 January 2019 20: 27
                    +1
                    It's always nice to read professional comments
            2. askort154
              askort154 4 January 2019 15: 13
              +3
              Random] Sasha, good afternoon! You are mistaken here.
              It is Su-24M, missiles X-58, 455 bap

              Serge hi Happy NEW! HEALTH!
              Infa was different then. And, like, it was a baptism of fire Su-34. Now it is clear. good hi
              1. Random
                Random 4 January 2019 15: 32
                +12
                Quote: askort154
                Happy NEW! HEALTH!
                Infa was different then. And, like, it was a baptism of fire Su-34

                And you SAME and .. PO- More fellow drinks
                Su-34 at that time only "Khibiny" helped bully
                It's just that "our TOP", finally "realized" that the loss of Tu-22M3 and Su-24M (Glitsevsky) is already ... "overkill" (with a naked ... yes on a hedgehog ... but it really hurts ) and from the night from 9 to 10 and from 10 to 11 carried out 4 sorties in the highlands, destroyed key air defense, communications and control objects at night soldier
                I won’t write surnames, but the photo ... please soldier

                Decree on awarding the title of "Hero of the Russian Federation" dated October 14, 2008
                1. askort154
                  askort154 4 January 2019 15: 39
                  +4
                  Random....I won’t write surnames, but the photo ... please


                  The one on the right looks like you! yes good drinks
                  1. Random
                    Random 4 January 2019 15: 51
                    +5
                    Quote: askort154
                    The one on the right looks like you!

                    On the left is the navigator, and on the right is the commander ... of issue 97 and 82 (Afghan soldier ) years ... "youth" wink but already masters of their craft soldier
                    The commander is already a colonel now, the navigator is a lieutenant colonel.
                    Something is similar, only I was bigger at that time (I dragged the bar with might and main laughing), well, after the "black continent" on home grubs .... eaten away lol
                2. Antares
                  Antares 4 January 2019 19: 43
                  +4
                  Quote: Random
                  Decree on awarding the title of "Hero of the Russian Federation" dated October 14, 2008

                  Shpitonkov likewise destroyed a radar station located near Tbilisi.
                  In the middle of August, 2008, the deputy squadron commander, Major Vladimir Sergeyev, and the assistant navigator of the squadron, Captain Nikolai Shpitonkov, were summoned from Mozdok to Moscow to celebrate the Heroes of the operation to force Georgia to peace. The meeting in the Kremlin made an unforgettable impression, but on the same day the officers flew back - for training in combat training, improvement of skills, transfer of combat experience to young colleagues. Spitonov and Sergeev received their Golden Stars in the Kremlin later - in December.
          2. Antares
            Antares 4 January 2019 19: 41
            +4
            Quote: askort154
            It was destroyed by an anti-radar missile launched from the Su-34 (according to other sources with the Su-24, or Su-25). Although, most likely with the Su-34.

            Su-24M crew consisting of Major Sergeyev and Captain Shpitonkov
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      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 4 January 2019 11: 32
        -20
        Quote: Schnapps
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        The Mazepa affair lives and thrives ... Finish along the way as well.

        Something the bastards took out again .. Eh Outskirts, how they rob you terribly!
        Your mentality "I'll hide my hut .."
        It will cost you a lot in the future .. Blood spilled a lot, etc.

        Sober up .. According to nickname ...
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    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 January 2019 22: 28
      0
      Yes, and Yurik Khmelnitsky not far gone.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 4 January 2019 11: 20
    +47
    Everything is drained to the mattress ... to the piece of iron. How much labor, sweat of tears and blood just like that, give geeks to the enemy. Burn you in hell, geeks. Ugh.
    1. poquello
      poquello 4 January 2019 13: 26
      +13
      Quote: NEXUS
      Everything is drained to the mattress ... to the piece of iron. How much labor, sweat of tears and blood just like that, give geeks to the enemy. Burn you in hell, geeks. Ugh.

      but I remember the howls of Ukrainians here even before the Maidan, such as Russia poorly shared secrets with fraternal Ukraine
    2. Random
      Random 4 January 2019 15: 00
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      Everything is drained to the mattress ... to the piece of iron.

      Andrey, dear! It has always been this way .... and the first S-300V was "merged" 20 years ago bully
      https://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/112104-kak-dostalas-amerikancam-nasha-zrs-s-300.html
      https://alexandr-palkin.livejournal.com/1776987.html
      And remember the "epic" with the advent of the Chinese "ship" J-15 bully
    3. Campanella
      Campanella 5 January 2019 00: 05
      +1
      Burn, then burn, but before they go to the bonfire, they must be responsible for this or sentenced to the highest degree with remote execution or brought to our monkey planted with us.
    4. NG inform
      NG inform 5 January 2019 08: 18
      +1
      There is nothing surprising at all: all Ukrainians are traitors, conscious or not, it does not matter. This is the foundation of Ukrainian identity, on what it is built.
  3. New Year day
    New Year day 4 January 2019 11: 22
    +34
    nothing surprising! Ukraine was engaged in this immediately after the beginning of its "independence". Almost everything that was in service with the USSR, Ukraine at one time transferred to the United States
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 4 January 2019 11: 54
      +34
      And not only Ukraine, the entire former Warsaw Pact merged cheaply for everything ... that went to ... the psychology of traitors ...
      1. AUL
        AUL 4 January 2019 14: 30
        +4
        Interestingly, he will drag from the states on the way back? After all, obviously not fly empty!
        1. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 4 January 2019 16: 11
          +2
          another handout ... a tail from Javelin ... well, or beads and bells for the "Sumerians" ...
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 January 2019 22: 32
        +1
        Well, what to take from them, the psychology of a slave of a licking boot was, is and will be.
      3. bayard
        bayard 5 January 2019 13: 24
        +3
        Well, here, by betrayal, Gorbachev and Yeltsin galloped ahead of the whole community. The allied leadership itself merged both the Commonwealth and the Union. And in place of the merged one there was a set. What is the demand from the enemy-appointed manager? Or their specialists on our design bureaus and factories in the 90s didn’t go to their homes? There is no "national" leadership there - neither in Eastern Europe, nor in the former Soviet Union, only appointed managers.
        ... If you yourself gave your sister \ daughter \ wife to a brothel ... why really blame that she became such ...
        Sorry for the comparison, but it really looks like this.
        East Germans are still offended at us that we threw them ...
        And how to look at the former Ukraine? ... Have you not quit? In 1991 \ 92? In 2014? After all, we rose to fight deciding that Crimea is only the beginning ... Do you think only Slavyansk with Donetsk and Lugansk were ready to fight? Do you think other cities were not ready to explode? But there were no hopes for "their" (former) authorities, and for Russia they did not materialize ... And it is clear why. They themselves stopped the cities in the rest of Ukraine, ready to rise, so that people would not die in vain.
        There is not a single Ukrainian in the "Ukrainian" government, only the Waltzmans, Groismans and Kapitelman ... perhaps only Klimkin ... but he is ... Russian (which would be more correct, to put it in quotes).
        If Waltzman and Turchin sent the radar to the States, this means that the Gauleiter sent the goods to the boss on request.
        All the betrayal from the Galitsais and "Waltzmans" who are not our brothers.
        And if we talk about betrayal, it’s always useful to remember - didn’t you betray someone ...

        And by nationality I’m Russian ... but my son-in-law is Ukrainian ... and godfather is generally a Bashkir.
        And someone betrayed us all ...
        And I do not think that it was the PEOPLE.

        ... and a very useful thing is a mirror ...
  4. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 4 January 2019 11: 22
    +18
    They will surrender everything and surrender themselves.
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      1. Hypersound
        Hypersound 4 January 2019 11: 37
        +4
        Like what? Destroy under the root, naturally
    2. HAM
      HAM 4 January 2019 11: 32
      +3
      And who needs them with bare ass! ??
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 4 January 2019 11: 49
        +5
        Quote: HAM
        And who needs them with bare ass! ??

        hi
        With a bare backside? Well, you give ....
        1. HAM
          HAM 4 January 2019 12: 58
          +3
          Dear Leo, the fact of the matter is that THEY are NOT HE ....
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            1. alex_V15
              alex_V15 4 January 2019 23: 26
              +1
              And no one in the poll noted, or did not dare to note - reunion with Russia!
              Is this not stopping our Russia from interfering and restoring order at 404?
            2. Former Russian
              Former Russian 5 January 2019 12: 08
              +1
              Do not la la, what 97%? Not everyone jumped and rejoiced at that madhouse, as now!
        2. gurzuf
          gurzuf 4 January 2019 14: 28
          0
          https://youtu.be/ynUugTSjO04
  5. Ampere
    Ampere 4 January 2019 11: 32
    +6
    They think to test their electronic warfare are looking for weaknesses. Only the Americans lagged behind in this direction.
  6. venik
    venik 4 January 2019 11: 34
    +5
    The Pig Fuehrer "Peca Giblets" in the last hope to enlist the support of the states (which he seems to be fed up with), is ready to "sell" EVERYTHING and EVERYTHING !!! If only to "please" the OWNERS !!!
  7. Hypersound
    Hypersound 4 January 2019 11: 35
    +8
    The country has S-300, and radars to them, 30 years ago. Which of course does not negate the fact that the Judas will be hanged even for this attempt itself
  8. New Year day
    New Year day 4 January 2019 11: 35
    +18
    With Ukraine gaining independence, the USA received the most advanced anti-aircraft missile systems at that time - the S-300 Favorit and the Tor anti-aircraft missile system, the T-72B and T-80U tanks, the BMP-3 armored personnel carriers and the 2S19M artillery mounts "Msta."
    In 2009, the US military department purchased two Soviet-made Su-27 fighters from the Ukrainian Air Force.
    In 2014, information appeared that unknown buyers were allegedly conducting secret negotiations in Turkey with a delegation of the Ukrainian enterprise Yuzhmash on the sale of technical documentation and production technologies for the R-36M2 Voyevoda missile system (according to the NATO classification SS-18 Satan)
    In 2015, it turned out that an unnamed Asian state bought from Kiev documentation for the Spear-R intercontinental ballistic missile, developed in Soviet times, in the same 2015, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine found out that two strategic Tu-95 MS bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons , disappeared without a trace. According to preliminary information, aircraft could be sold in the second half of 2013 - January 2014.
    1. Antares
      Antares 4 January 2019 12: 00
      +12
      Quote: Silvestr
      With Ukraine gaining independence, the most modern anti-aircraft missile defense systems, the S-300 Favorit, were found in the United States at that time.

      all right, but the neighbors sold
      The fact remains that one of the S-300 systems, located at the Minsk Anti-Aircraft Missile School, was sold to the United States and transported to one of the military bases.
      The deal with C-300, it turns out, passed the “approval” of Russia, and all the necessary visas for officials are on it.
      Knowledgeable people claim that the document is approved by Deputy Defense Minister Andrei Kokoshin and the visa of the former Chief of the General Staff Mikhail Kolesnikov.
      That is, formally, Belarus is not to blame for anything, and all responsibility lies with Russian officials - Kokoshin and Kolesnikov. It was with their consent that C-300 “sailed” to America.

      several designers of C 300 and C 400 also left for permanent residence in the USA ..
      Quote: Silvestr
      “Tor”, T-72B and T-80U tanks

      TOP SAMs in Ukraine is the smallest, and it did not sell. Everything was sold in tanks, most of all in the Russian Federation.
      All that is written is characteristic of all post-Soviet countries — the RF, Ukraine, Belarus, etc.
      Someone drying 27, someone more modern, someone tanks someone air defense systems ..
      I see no reason to blame everything on Ukraine. Here everyone was noted.
      1. alex_V15
        alex_V15 4 January 2019 23: 28
        0
        Regarding the S-300 and the grievances associated with it, if the United States wants to equip its air defenses with ours - let them come, make peace and buy officially! Export options - which surpass them "Patriots" we have!
        But no! It must be so - for a petty one! And then we did not hedge! Yes...
    2. Avior
      Avior 4 January 2019 12: 07
      -4
      The Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office found that two Tu-95 MS strategic bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons disappeared without a trace. According to preliminary information, aircraft could be sold in the second half of 2013 - January 2014.

      Yanukovych needs to ask this.
      most likely for scrap, what else to do with them?
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 4 January 2019 12: 12
      +6
      New Year day (Sylvester) hi
      With the independence of Ukraine in the United States came ...
      And they sold how much to the Chinese, to the Koreans, and the aircraft carrier fleet! And ... What can I say. Yes, even the cruiser "Ukraina" and that was destroyed but not sold to Russia. I am already silent about long-range aviation in Poltava. Everything was destroyed. And the Black Sea fleet was divided amNakoy he to you? Ta shob bulo wassat So it sailed. So now with this aircraft there is nothing. A trifle.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 4 January 2019 13: 13
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        And how many to the Chinese ... A carrier fleet

        20/04/2017 "People's Daily" online - The aircraft carrier Minsk in the coastal area of ​​Shatoujiao in Shenzhen is the only one in China, and even around the world, an aircraft carrier rebuilt into a military theme park ... A tourist area with an area open on the aircraft carrier itself 50 thousand square meters m. Visitors can familiarize themselves with the previous weapon system, real equipment, as well as participate in some exciting entertaining
        14/04/2014 "People's Daily" online According to recently published photos, it became clear that the first landing ship "Bison" made in Ukraine was officially transferred to the PLA Navy. This ship was brought to Guangzhou in May 2013. Then, for six months, they carried out work on modernization, the establishment of weapons and tests.
      2. Conrad
        Conrad 4 January 2019 13: 17
        0
        Quote: Observer2014
        .Yes, even the cruiser "Ukraine" and that failed but not sold to Russia.

        Come on, not sold! Firstly, Russia did not buy it and did the right thing. Since we did not agree on the price. "Ukraine" wanted money as for some kind of product (even the most overwhelming), and the Russian Federation gave only at the price of scrap metal. That's all! No, at that time, politics or racism!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 January 2019 22: 39
          0
          Yes, he already rotted while standing at the pier. Since 1990 years afloat, 29 years have passed, no maintenance, constant theft, in general a ghost ship.
      3. Antares
        Antares 4 January 2019 13: 36
        +4
        Quote: Observer2014
        A carrier fleet!

        Of the nine aircraft-carrying ships of the USSR Navy, one today serves Russia, two - China and India, two turned into a hotel and an attraction, and the rest are cut into scrap metal.
        RCC "Moscow" was sold to India for scrap and in May 1997 set off on its last voyage. The former pride of the Soviet fleet was disposed of in the bay of the Indian town of Alang.
        it certainly did Ukraine .. winked
        Anti-submarine cruiser Leningrad: cut to metal in India, also Fox tricks, that is, Ukraine winked
        Heavy aircraft carrier “Kiev”: a floating hotel in China, made Ukraine one hundred pounds ... not otherwise
        For $ 1,6 million, the aircraft carrier was sold to "unidentified people" who resold it to the PRC government for $ 8,2 million.
        Heavy aircraft carrier “Minsk”: an entertaining attraction in China, well, Ukrainians laughing
        Heavy aircraft cruiser Novorossiysk: cut to metal in Korea, again these Ukrainians lol
        The heavy aircraft carrier “Baku”: the Indian Navy aircraft carrier is also Ukrainians .. what can you take from them ..
        Heavy aircraft carrier “Varyag”: aircraft carrier of the Navy of China, before that, Ukrainians did not admit tricks, but they recognized Varyag. Indeed, they themselves sold and saved his life.
        By the way, the ship was lucky most of all its brothers.
        Heavy aircraft cruiser Ulyanovsk: cut into metal at the construction stage. Well, scoundrels, they could have built and not looked at the broken ties, the lack of money and the capabilities of the USSR. After all, all the post-Soviet aircraft carriers are building .. and Ukraine could not. laughing
        in general, as we see, Ukrainians sold everything to China and Korea.
        1. Alexander X
          Alexander X 4 January 2019 15: 01
          +3
          But is there freely available information, which of the officials and the military put their permissive signatures on sales contracts, orders for disposal? Maybe the statute of limitations for such cases can be revised. Or rather, classify these crimes as nothing other than treason and the statute of limitations, then well, very much not in favor of the signatories ... As far as I know (maybe I am wrong), in criminal cases that can "pull" to the highest measure, the limitation period may not apply .... By the way, I found on the internet: Article 78 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
          ... Question on the application of statutes of limitations to a person who has committed a crime punishable by death or life imprisonment, shall be decided by the court.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 January 2019 22: 41
          0
          So the entire Navy, MMF and MPX are sold to India. The fleet is more dumb.
    4. populowandrei
      populowandrei 4 January 2019 13: 28
      +1
      How much in that mess disappeared in an unknown direction, and after all it disappeared throughout the USSR.
    5. Brturin
      Brturin 4 January 2019 14: 34
      +2
      Quote: Silvestr
      In 2015, it turned out

      May be a little supplement On December 5, 2016, China launched the Dongfeng-41 ICBM from a railway mobile installation ... "in the report of the Asian Arms Control Project program at Georgetown University, it is stated that Chinese experts in their The project used technologies received from Ukraine. It was Ukrainian enterprises that, before the collapse of the Soviet Union, took an active part in the creation of the BZHRK "https://topwar.ru/88394-the-washington-free-beacon-kitay-ispytal-novuyu-mbr-na- zheleznodorozhnom-vagone.html - in all disputes, such a development of events cannot be ruled out either ...
    6. bayard
      bayard 5 January 2019 13: 38
      0
      If the Tu-95MS were sold to Russia, I am only FOR.
      And the secrets of Yuzhmash were traded by Kolomoisky ... he and his comrades actually own it.
  9. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 4 January 2019 11: 36
    +1
    It’s their merging that they’ll merge what’s like, I think, and the Turks will let Amers rummage in with 3
  10. midshipman
    midshipman 4 January 2019 11: 39
    +13
    How surprising that at one time (as I felt) I did not transfer air defense products for production at the Radioizmeritel plant. Although I was obliged to do it. He only gave elements of rocket heads for production. On the other hand, the Lenin Production Association in Lvov was producing the entire S-200 air defense system.
    1. Antares
      Antares 4 January 2019 12: 02
      0
      Quote: midshipman
      On the other hand, the Lenin Production Association in Lvov was producing the entire S-200 air defense system.

      they are even happy to restore the TOR air defense systems (removed in 2009).
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 4 January 2019 11: 41
    +4
    I think the Americans have the basic characteristics of the stations, similar stations are in service with NATO countries, such as Slovakia, Bulgaria, Hungary and Greece, Poland. The Americans need to develop a specific mechanism for action when real planes are irradiated with the station’s locator. Moreover, they are really going to bring democracy to Iran
  12. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 4 January 2019 11: 43
    +6
    As they were traitors ... so they remain all these enthusiastic admirers of Mazepo / Bandera
    ... and who will sell that mother for a penny? ... but we sleepily drink ...
  13. askort154
    askort154 4 January 2019 11: 43
    +3
    It was previously reported that in September 2018, the United States received the Ukrainian 36D6M1-1 radar associated with the S-300 class missile system.


    And then this topic was already discussed on the VO website (03.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX) yes
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 4 January 2019 12: 07
      +12
      Quote: askort154
      It was previously reported that in September 2018, the United States received the Ukrainian 36D6M1-1 radar associated with the S-300 class missile system.
      And then this topic was already discussed on the VO website (03.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX) yes
      Sasha, be a caress, next time take me with you to the future!
      1. askort154
        askort154 4 January 2019 16: 05
        +1
        sabakina .....And then this topic was already discussed on the VO website (03.09.2019/XNUMX/XNUMX)
        Sasha, be a caress, next time take me with you to the future!


        Glory good ! I AM crying ! Be ready drinks ! Take away yes ! hi
  14. svp67
    svp67 4 January 2019 11: 55
    0
    New Year's “gift” from Ukraine - that Il-76 delivered to the USA
    Shaw, sho? .... Chocolate "Rushen".
  15. Steering wheel
    Steering wheel 4 January 2019 11: 55
    +6
    I think that’s why Russia refuses joint developments in the air force with Belarus! yes
  16. mehan
    mehan 4 January 2019 12: 02
    -16
    After "North Wind" in 2014, talking about the betrayal of Ukrainians ... is kind of stupid, isn't it?
  17. Avior
    Avior 4 January 2019 12: 06
    -2
    because of which there are so many screams
    The Americans bought several radars from Zaporizhzhya Spark.
    Not Soviet, but modern modifications.
    Have paid.
    Buyer - US ARMY CONTRACTING COMMAND - ORLANDO ACC-ORL (12211 Science Drive, Orlando, Fl 32826-3224). Price - $ 7,852 million. Two other radars of other types, priced at $ 5,952 million and $ 3,62 million, were delivered in March and April 2017, respectively.

    What is the noise because of what?
  18. Antares
    Antares 4 January 2019 12: 09
    +2
    As can be assumed, Ukraine transferred the radar to the United States, which will serve as an imitation of enemy air defense

    the author contradicts himself
    It was previously reported that in September 2018, the United States received the Ukrainian 36D6M1-1 radar associated with the S-300 class missile system

    here she is. Delivered by sea.

    the station has been delivered to many.
    Vietnam for example.

    Il 76 could work out on exercises. And to carry a team, not radars, which were transmitted by the sea in September.
  19. Cympak
    Cympak 4 January 2019 12: 18
    +8
    One has only to look at how, after 1991, an engineering thought suddenly erupted in the Chinese and they immediately jumped into the 50st century from the models of weapons of the 60-21s level, it immediately becomes clear that all this leap was provided by the drain of Soviet developments. Obviously, everything was leaked, but Ukraine was particularly distinguished in the field of missile technology, cruise missile engines and the sale of Varyag, and all for a penny. Looking at this, there should be no illusion about the reliability of lured friends.
    1. populowandrei
      populowandrei 4 January 2019 13: 20
      +2
      North Korea also made a leap in rocket science, not without their help.
    2. Antares
      Antares 4 January 2019 13: 40
      0
      Quote: Cympak
      Ukraine especially distinguished itself in the field of missile technologies, cruise missile engines and the sale of "Varyag" and all for a penny. Looking at this, there should be no illusion about the reliability of lured friends.

      as usual, a speck and a log.
      not the neighbors the problem is ....
  20. akm8226
    akm8226 4 January 2019 12: 29
    0
    Another evidence of the Kakloff betrayal. Well, okay - all the same, the Amers cannot be resurrected, but dill will be counted during the execution.
  21. serg v stock
    serg v stock 4 January 2019 12: 49
    0
    At the end of the USSR, the rearmament of air defense primarily affected border districts. Now these are the countries of Aunt Nata. Evil tongues said that not all three hundred were able to transport to the Russian Federation, part of the iron disappeared in an unknown direction.
  22. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 4 January 2019 12: 56
    +4
    Someday this mess on Urkain will end with something like the collapse of the country, or without it. Having choked on "democracy" and Europe, these imbeciles will again be drawn to Russia and ?????? What is to be done with these eternal traitors? Understand and forgive? Give them another 50-70 years, in order to fatten and betray again? It is necessary to deprive this territory of all the attributes of statehood, so that they do not even think about any Ukrainians there, since all neighbors have one headache from this ukainism.
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 4 January 2019 16: 17
      +1
      but don't let Gd go to the "brotherhood" ... there is no one to understand and even more forgive ... quarantine to all Maidan ... ATOs ... tihushniki and others for 100 years ... we'll see what kind of nation was formed ...
  23. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 4 January 2019 13: 11
    +8
    Well, what are we making noise? Shaw was nothing in the former countries of the Warsaw Pact? Did they sell shoah to India and China - slingshots? And the Turks (damn - brothers forever).
    So far, in Russia, not a social state, but a state with a competitive economy, led by the idol $, they will sell everything.
  24. populowandrei
    populowandrei 4 January 2019 13: 17
    +2
    Ukrainians do not betray anyone, they sell. They sold the radar complex they didn’t need. Why was he such a powerful power?
  25. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 January 2019 13: 32
    0
    Anecdote to the topic
    Trump turns to his attending physician with a demand - to find the reason why he cannot go to the pot in a big way.
    After examination, the doctor issued a verdict. "Mr. President, the Ukrainians have licked your back sphincter so much that it caused chronic rectal obstruction." lol
  26. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 4 January 2019 14: 14
    -1
    Who cares about this junk? Old Soviet 19zh6, well, maybe a bit updated element base
  27. it
    it 4 January 2019 14: 38
    +2
    It has been in our RTB since 91 was enough for 7-8 years and stood! KAMAZ went with the kit! Then handed over somewhere
  28. Ale_ksey
    Ale_ksey 4 January 2019 14: 43
    +3
    Just the guys got lost
  29. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 4 January 2019 18: 05
    +3
    Judah, nothing more to say.
  30. Guard division of divan troops
    Guard division of divan troops 4 January 2019 18: 34
    +3
    Oh, I remember in front of the Maidan, they squealed, like Russia shares little secrets with them ...
  31. bone1
    bone1 4 January 2019 20: 19
    +1
    And why are Ukrainians using a Russian plane? -Ancient Sumerians in their graves turned upside down. laughing
  32. Poll_0
    Poll_0 4 January 2019 21: 37
    0
    take it easy! except for tripper, syphilis and AIDS - We (Velika is an independent Krajina), we can’t provide anything for pidos (or donate from pure ?? 3 ====))
  33. edvardmiloslavsky
    edvardmiloslavsky 4 January 2019 22: 07
    +3
    it was necessary to bring down .. and blame on Israel))
  34. Larum
    Larum 4 January 2019 22: 55
    0
    Then Tolboev declared that he had a NATO mini-base near where their planes fly ... and nothing.

    And then 1n plane ... delivered another radar,
    Like USA already bought several of these before?
  35. LORD-72
    LORD-72 4 January 2019 23: 58
    0

    In short ...
  36. arhPavel
    arhPavel 5 January 2019 00: 04
    +1
    ... ndaaaa ....
    Offal, I can imagine what we had in 92-96
  37. Ham
    Ham 5 January 2019 09: 32
    0
    It is surprising that there are still naive people who think that dill still did not transfer something to the USA! all that could be merged back in the 90s! we then - didn’t even sell it - GAVE secret technology to the Americans, but to say about dill, generally ...
  38. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 5 January 2019 09: 32
    +1
    It's time to get used to the fact that everything that is in service with the CIS countries is no longer a secret for NATO.
  39. Varaga
    Varaga 5 January 2019 12: 08
    0
    Pind wasps try to get at least something to try to open our air defense. Another thing is that they are all the same stupid - we have long had such a technique outdated and a new one has replaced.
    A banderlog in his repertoire. What is only the presentation of the Ukrainian Cossack (from the knee!) Cossack saber to the Pind-Osovsky bureaucrat.
    It looks like this: first he knelt down and “took”, and then he turned, bent down and “gave”.
    And everything is "free of charge, that is, for free" ...
    A disgrace.
  40. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 5 January 2019 14: 41
    0
    I think it is very good that the Americans are studying our old technique, if only they couldn’t get to the new one.
  41. servla
    servla 5 January 2019 20: 12
    +1
    Quote: NG inform
    There is nothing surprising at all: all Ukrainians are traitors, conscious or not, it does not matter. This is the foundation of Ukrainian identity, on what it is built.

    Eco you are bent. Is that all right? Three times Hero of the Soviet Union Kozhedub is also a traitor?
  42. Radikal
    Radikal 5 January 2019 22: 39
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    Well, here, by betrayal, Gorbachev and Yeltsin galloped ahead of the whole community. The allied leadership itself merged both the Commonwealth and the Union. And in place of the merged one there was a set. What is the demand from the enemy-appointed manager? Or their specialists on our design bureaus and factories in the 90s didn’t go to their homes? There is no "national" leadership there - neither in Eastern Europe, nor in the former Soviet Union, only appointed managers.
    ... If you yourself gave your sister \ daughter \ wife to a brothel ... why really blame that she became such ...
    Sorry for the comparison, but it really looks like this.
    East Germans are still offended at us that we threw them ...
    And how to look at the former Ukraine? ... Have you not quit? In 1991 \ 92? In 2014? After all, we rose to fight deciding that Crimea is only the beginning ... Do you think only Slavyansk with Donetsk and Lugansk were ready to fight? Do you think other cities were not ready to explode? But there were no hopes for "their" (former) authorities, and for Russia they did not materialize ... And it is clear why. They themselves stopped the cities in the rest of Ukraine, ready to rise, so that people would not die in vain.
    There is not a single Ukrainian in the "Ukrainian" government, only the Waltzmans, Groismans and Kapitelman ... perhaps only Klimkin ... but he is ... Russian (which would be more correct, to put it in quotes).
    If Waltzman and Turchin sent the radar to the States, this means that the Gauleiter sent the goods to the boss on request.
    All the betrayal from the Galitsais and "Waltzmans" who are not our brothers.
    And if we talk about betrayal, it’s always useful to remember - didn’t you betray someone ...

    And by nationality I’m Russian ... but my son-in-law is Ukrainian ... and godfather is generally a Bashkir.
    And someone betrayed us all ...
    And I do not think that it was the PEOPLE.

    ... and a very useful thing is a mirror ...

    yes yes yes good hi
  43. Somewhere in Russia
    Somewhere in Russia 6 January 2019 08: 49
    +1
    Good day to all!! That registered, to answer or ask? There are some words about Ukrainians Bismarck said, is that your position? Here in front of you, I, half the Ukrainian, who fought in Afghanistan, and what, am I the bearer of all the qualities listed there? Or only half, half time Ukrainian? People change your mind, what are you talking about? Because of a few coves to level the whole tribe with Judah?
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