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Famous Soviet and Ukrainian aircraft designer beaten in Kiev

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In Kiev, an attack was carried out on the well-known aircraft designer of the Antonov enterprise, 81-year-old Viktor Kovalsky. The beating of an elderly aircraft designer occurred in a crowded place in the Ukrainian capital. Moreover, five unknown persons participated in the beating of a 81-year-old man.
As it turned out later, among those who had beaten the aircraft designer, two were representatives of the national police.


Famous Soviet and Ukrainian aircraft designer beaten in Kiev


Viktor Kowalsky himself said that he was complained that he was allegedly a currency scam and "deceives people."

Ukrainian media cite statements by the aircraft designer, who received numerous bruises and hematomas:
A man in a red jacket allegedly changed some dollars somewhere. Allegedly, they threw him at 10 thousands. Showed me. But it later became clear. I knew nothing about it. The blows fell on me from behind, on the head. And next was a police car.


Instead of protecting Kovalsky, the police officers twisted him, put handcuffs on him and shoved him into a car.

In the hospital where Viktor Kovalsky was sent after the beating, he was diagnosed with a concussion and a back injury. It is noted that he has a “damaged tooth”.

The aircraft designer, working in the industry for nearly half a century, wrote a statement to the police. In the Ukrainian media stated that open criminal records. The police officers involved in the beating are not currently suspended from work. No apologies were made to the aircraft designer.

For your information: Viktor Kovalsky was a member of the An-74 and An-225 Mriya aircraft engineering groups.
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TSN
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  1. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 3 January 2019 07: 56
    +28
    "Cope" ... Hoopoes.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 3 January 2019 08: 02
      +32
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

      "We did it" ..

      Grandfather is over 80 years old! This is his design work for the good of the motherland!
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 3 January 2019 08: 04
        +31
        [quote = Uncle Lee] [quote = Andrey Chistyakov]
        "We did it" .. [/ quote]
        Grandfather is over 80 years old! This is his design work for the good of the motherland! []
        There are no fascists in Ukraine.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 3 January 2019 08: 09
          +20
          Darkness in Dill ... Recalls the end of the 30s in Nazi Germany.
          1. Machito
            Machito 3 January 2019 08: 49
            +1
            Makhnovschina.
            1. Ivan Ivanov
              Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 09: 04
              +7
              Nazism is tame.
              1. cniza
                cniza 3 January 2019 09: 35
                +15
                Can you imagine what happens when ordinary people are beaten?
                1. krot
                  krot 3 January 2019 11: 02
                  +15
                  "Pig" after all, the other day boasted that it was the Sumerians who made Mriya! So it came down to those directly involved in the production of the aircraft. This is, so to speak, praise from "Pig"
                  1. Ivan Ivanov
                    Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 13: 05
                    +3
                    Porosyuk and Porosenko in power, however the company
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 3 January 2019 14: 33
                      +3
                      Quote: Tartar 174
                      Darkness in Dill ... Recalls the end of the 30s in Nazi Germany.

                      In Germany at the end of the 30s there was nationalism (they humiliated "not their own", exalted "their own"), the rise of the economy and national pride. And already talented people welcomedregardless of nationality (at least take Erhard Milkhom). And it was believed that "the Jews who seized power in England and the United States are doing their best to harm the country."

                      In Ukraine, the economic decline, the rampant crime, corruption, and like a cherry in the cake - a worship of the United States.

                      I do not condone fascism in Germany (fascism is generally evil, in any manifestation), but Ukraine and Germany cannot be compared.
                      1. Vlad5307
                        Vlad5307 3 January 2019 18: 36
                        0
                        It is possible to compare countries, just do not forget about the "national flavor"! hi
                2. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 4 January 2019 01: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  Can you imagine what happens when ordinary people are beaten?

                  When they throw off the Kiev junta, all these Nazis, police officers (namely police officers, not policemen) will have to answer for their actions before the citizens, since they live nearby, in the neighborhood and everyone knows them. And then I'll see how these nonhumans will turn out and make excuses. But the outcome will be either a prison or a coffin lid (at best).
          2. dauria
            dauria 3 January 2019 12: 05
            +10
            Reminds the end of the 30s in fascist Germany.


            Reminds Russia of the mid-90s. Weak power - that's got out all the dregs. Another redistribution, shooting when dividing "districts" and markets, monuments to "godfathers" in the cemetery - and it will definitely be like ours. Passed.
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 3 January 2019 14: 39
              +4
              Quote: dauria

              Reminds Russia of the mid-90s. Weak power - that's got out all the dregs. Another redistribution, shooting when dividing "districts" and markets, monuments to "godfathers" in the cemetery - and it will definitely be like ours. Passed.

              But will they have their own "I'm tired, I'm leaving"?
              I hope so. But I doubt it.
              Yeltsin was a professional party apparatchik. Poroshenko is a businessman. A completely different type of thinking. And if Poroshenko is thrown off, who will replace him, it is unlikely that he will "eat enough" in the five-year plan.
              1. Vlad5307
                Vlad5307 3 January 2019 18: 38
                +1
                EBN was unsuitable for big politics - so the princes of the local spill, and therefore the country was lowered below the baseboard! stop
          3. mult-65
            mult-65 4 January 2019 19: 43
            +2
            Germany was never fascist, it was Nazi. The ruling party is the NSDAP. National Socialist Deutsche Arbeiten Partai. Fascism is Italy. The end of the 30s in Germany is prosperity and order after many years of poverty and a mess.
      2. lwxx
        lwxx 3 January 2019 09: 24
        +12
        At first, they destroyed the aircraft industry (and not only the aircraft), but now they are achieving intellectual property. The West does not need competitors, the West needs consumers.
        1. cniza
          cniza 3 January 2019 09: 36
          +10
          They would anoint the hut with a dung, whiten it and feed the piglet ...
      3. Ekaterina Shtepa
        Ekaterina Shtepa 3 January 2019 09: 59
        +7
        To be precise - 82 years !!! ... I don’t understand ... At one time we thought that there were people in the Soviet police, and now in the Ukrainian police - ..., sorry, there are simply no words!
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2019 10: 15
          +7
          In fact, the Soviet militia defended the people, and the fact that you reviewed "Cargo 200" and, in addition, a saucepan on your head, is unfortunately incurable ...
          1. Ekaterina Shtepa
            Ekaterina Shtepa 3 January 2019 14: 08
            -4
            I just didn’t look at "Cargo 200", but the pan on my head is where and where?!?
          2. Ekaterina Shtepa
            Ekaterina Shtepa 3 January 2019 14: 09
            -5
            Why are you protecting the Soviet police ??? And there were all sorts ...
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 3 January 2019 10: 57
          -1
          Well, in winter clothes, but with a broken face, they might not be able to figure it out.
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 3 January 2019 14: 55
            0
            This is a circle of persons subject to constant monitoring.
            Like the "seven" was obliged to intervene.
      4. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 3 January 2019 10: 44
        +4
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Grandfather is over 80 years old! This is his design work for the good of the motherland!

        He worked for the benefit of a completely different homeland. And not about such as now, he dreamed of his homeland.
        81 years old. Just no words.
      5. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 27
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

        "We did it" ..

        Grandfather is over 80 years old! This is his design work for the good of the motherland!

        Well, Natsiks, as always, thought that their grandfather was hunchbacked in the wrong Motherland, and now no one needs a pensioner ...
        Apparently everyone in Ukraine will calm down when the entire intellect of Ukrainian design bureaus, NGOs, and research institutes does not appear in Russia ...
        Why should the Ukrainian authorities remember the short Soviet past, when they now have a long and great Ukrainian sumer ....
      6. NEXUS
        NEXUS 3 January 2019 16: 43
        +8
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        This is his design work for the good of the motherland!

        The Nazis simply beat the designer for what he worked and made a great USSR, whose existence, the Nazis drove into disheartening and breeds hatred.
        The question is why our authorities did not offer such a person to move to the Russian Federation so that he would educate our youth ...
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 4 January 2019 04: 27
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          The question is why our authorities did not offer such a person to move to the Russian Federation so that he would educate our youth ...

          Because they don’t need that. This will be extra evidence that there was a great country and a great people. It is better to build another alcohol center, a monument to Slzhenitsyn or Mannerheim.
          1. page
            page 4 January 2019 19: 04
            0
            Alas it is!
      7. pvv113
        pvv113 4 January 2019 01: 02
        +1
        Ukroheroi can only fight against the helpless and unarmed
    2. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 3 January 2019 08: 04
      +23
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      "Cope" ... Hoopoes.

      That is to say the leastNon-humans. Their grandfathers of women and children with old people burned alive in Khatyn, what do you want from them? An apple from an apple tree ... am
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 3 January 2019 08: 06
        +12
        Quote: GKS 2111
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        "Cope" ... Hoopoes.

        This is to say the least, NELYUDI. Their grandfathers of women and children with old people burned alive in Khatyn, what do you want?

        Here censorship is better than the royal secret police. And then other words would be found ....
    3. A good one
      A good one 3 January 2019 08: 07
      +11
      But Mriy celebrated his birthday. Gunpowder rose up.
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 3 January 2019 08: 08
        +8
        Quote: Not bad
        But Mriy celebrated his birthday. Gunpowder rose up.

        Why not drink it ...
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 28
        +4
        Quote: Not bad
        But Mriy celebrated his birthday. Gunpowder rose up.

        Her kind of Chinese were going to drink ....
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 3 January 2019 14: 38
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
      "Cope" ... Hoopoes.

      Avenged for work on aircraft for the Soviet Union ...
      After 14 years old, my grandfather had to "construct multi-storey dugouts for the country of residence.
      Would become a Hero of the Outskirts!
  2. izya top
    izya top 3 January 2019 07: 58
    +14
    I think my grandfather flew in for "separatism". And about the kidalov-excuse
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 3 January 2019 08: 06
      +13
      Quote: izya top

      I think my grandfather flew in for "separatism". And about the kidalov-excuse

      The usual hitting, like "you have to, let's go look at the hut" performed by the bull. Classic of the 90s.
      1. Cheslav Tsursky
        Cheslav Tsursky 3 January 2019 09: 56
        +11
        Quote: Gray Brother
        The usual hitting, like "you have to, let's go look at the hut" performed by the bull. Classic of the 90s.

        Yes, I think so. Moreover, in most cases they run into just such elderly and defenseless people. Such ghouls with lawlessness and a mess crawl out of all the cracks. What can we say about Ukraine today ?!
  3. Lamatinets
    Lamatinets 3 January 2019 07: 59
    +2
    Ay what "handsome", Heroes of Ukraine !!!!
  4. edvardmiloslavsky
    edvardmiloslavsky 3 January 2019 08: 02
    +12
    fascism, he is like that. beat children and old people.
  5. andrewkor
    andrewkor 3 January 2019 08: 04
    +5
    Grandfather did not have time to get to China or Russia by profession and accidentally ran into!
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 3 January 2019 10: 51
      +8
      Quote: andrewkor
      Grandfather did not have time to get to China or Russia by profession

      He has already trumpeted his own. 81 years, even for the designer too much. Sorry for the old man. He did not deserve such an attitude. According to the mind, the Kiev authorities need to put a bronze bust on him in the city of residence and until the end of his days ... kiss him for past merits.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 31
        +2
        Quote: Polite Moose
        According to the mind, the Kiev authorities need to put a bronze bust on him in the city of residence and until the end of his days ... kiss him for past merits.

        For services to the Soviet people, nowhere in the vastness of the CIS (except for the Russian Federation) do the busts set, what can we say about Ukraine ....
  6. Graz
    Graz 3 January 2019 08: 05
    +21
    and what do you want? Well, an uneducated rogue from a Western country came to Kiev to them.
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 09: 07
      +4
      This is just the result of a deep education .. alternative, the intelligentsia there is no better.
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 33
        +1
        Quote: IvanIvanov
        the intelligentsia is no better there.

        And at what times and where (at least in the Russian Federation, at least in Ukraine) the anti-legionia fought for people's aspirations, at best, it didn’t look directly into the enemy’s mouth ...
  7. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 3 January 2019 08: 07
    +11
    Natsik they differ in that they can scare only the elderly and children.
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 3 January 2019 13: 18
      +1
      Yes, Natsik then what? Ordinary bull.
  8. Non liberoid Russian
    Non liberoid Russian 3 January 2019 08: 08
    +6
    decommunized
    1. Lamatinets
      Lamatinets 3 January 2019 10: 43
      -1
      There is not only decommunization, there is a complete lobotomy of Moss))))
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  10. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 3 January 2019 08: 22
    +6
    After the Maidan, he needed to leave for Russia through Russia to us. and so the scum of a person will be killed, as always, purely in Ukrainian, but for what. ...
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  11. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 3 January 2019 08: 38
    +2
    Well, now, maybe in old age, in China it will do with "Mriya". Why the hell is this "homeland"?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 39
      +2
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Well, now, maybe in old age, in China it will do with "Mriya". Why the hell is this "homeland"?

      Without language, a bunch of diseases, and with a loss of professional fitness, who needs it there ..... while he has been retired for 20 years, engineering has already gone far ...
      There are a lot of changes during the holidays ...
  12. alex007i
    alex007i 3 January 2019 08: 44
    -5
    In Kiev, they beat indiscriminately, grandfather is not to blame for the fact that he is an aircraft designer.
    But the media is inflating an elephant from a fly.
    The mountain gave birth to a mouse.
    Talk to copy-paste.
  13. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 3 January 2019 08: 50
    +2
    How tired of this, hohland!
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      1. SASHA OLD
        SASHA OLD 4 January 2019 00: 06
        0
        Quote: traveler
        China's expansion

        What has China done to us again?
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 January 2019 08: 54
    +8
    Yes, Ukraine now does not care about the merits of Soviet times.
    Rather, this is an aggravating factor.
  15. K-50
    K-50 3 January 2019 08: 58
    +3
    Here it is, the rule of law of victorious Guinness. sad
    maybe disgusting? what
  16. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2019 09: 02
    +5
    I have long said and I will repeat it - Ukraine as a country must be destroyed. That is hiccups.
    1. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 09: 09
      +5
      The State of the USSR broke up into petty nationalisms, this is their aggravation, nothing surprising. Either internationalism, or this is it .. the choice is small.
      1. alex007i
        alex007i 3 January 2019 09: 40
        -1
        I really agree.
        Father in 70x served in Ukraine - torchlight processions were in the order of things, he says.
        What to talk about now in the current realities?
        Unless the patterns are cracking at the seams.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 3 January 2019 10: 08
          +6
          Father in 70x served in Ukraine - torchlight processions were in the order of things, he says.

          what nonsense? At dawn and the peak of power of the USSR, there were supposedly torchlight processions? I also do not like dill. But this is too much and disrespect for the Soviet past.
          1. alex007i
            alex007i 3 January 2019 12: 04
            -2
            At dawn and the peak of power of the USSR, there were supposedly torchlight processions?

            I understand your surprise, but your ignorance does not give you a reason to accuse me of lying, dear.
            And why, the country that was part of the USSR, do you call dill?
            Is this your disrespect for the fraternal people?
            Maybe to the Soviet people whom history so unfairly shared?
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 3 January 2019 13: 46
              +5
              Quote: alex007i
              And why, the country that was part of the USSR, do you call dill?
              Is this your disrespect for the fraternal people?

              After the senior comrades chosen by the "brotherly people" threaten my country with nuclear bombs and incite international terrorists against the Russian Federation, then the former Ukrainian SSR is at least "dill" for me, at most a hostile state ...
              Maybe to the Soviet people whom history so unfairly shared?

              For fools, do not keep gullible and kind members of the forum here, 90% of "Soviet people" living in the Ukrainian SSR voted for separation from the USSR ...
              And in 2014 they called us not brothers ....
            2. sogdy
              sogdy 3 January 2019 15: 16
              0
              Quote: alex007i
              Father in 70x served in Ukraine - torchlight processions were in the order of things, he says.

              In the 70s (more precisely, in 77-82) there was an outbreak of neo-Nazism throughout the piece of iron. Actually, this is a "container business", covered by politics.
              Quote: alex007i
              your ignorance does not give you a reason

              claim "torchlight processions", most of which are associated with the opening / closing of the season in resorts and holiday homes.
              like an officer's daughter?
          2. dauria
            dauria 3 January 2019 12: 24
            0
            what nonsense? At dawn and the peak of power of the USSR, there were supposedly torchlight processions?


            this is not nonsense, but the result of the work of Russian television and the "world wide web". Judging by the fact that
            Father in the 70s served in Ukraine
            , son 30-35 years old. A generation when there were no mixed marriages, or a common army or university. On the other hand, the same thing.
            1. alex007i
              alex007i 3 January 2019 13: 10
              -1
              this is not nonsense, but the result of the work of Russian television and the "world wide web". Judging by the fact that
              Father in the 70s served in Ukraine
              , son 30-35 years old. A generation when there were no mixed marriages, or a common army or university. On the other hand, the same thing.

              This is professionalism, this is what I understand analysis.
              Yes, with such a talent, weather forecasts can be done.
      2. alexmach
        alexmach 3 January 2019 11: 06
        0
        The State of the USSR broke up into petty nationalisms, this is their aggravation, nothing surprising. Either internationalism, or this is it .. the choice is small.

        Well, for the sake of justice, now they go through a special point in history to call it their normal state - an exaggeration.
    2. Kokarev Mikhail
      Kokarev Mikhail 3 January 2019 10: 39
      -1
      Do you say destroy? This is not a cockroach! How is the country? Well, suppose. And if not a country, then whose colony?
    3. Antares
      Antares 3 January 2019 10: 44
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      I have long said and I will repeat it - Ukraine as a country must be destroyed. That is hiccups.

      for any police lawlessness need to destroy the country?
      Or only Ukraine?
      In this situation, there is no politics / nationalism / or anything else that commentators have sent here. There is a banal police lawlessness with detention on false charges. The police exceeded their authority, causing severe damage to the pensioner. Where is the politics here? Even nationalists have nothing to do with it.
      According to Kowalski, initially he was beaten by three, after which two policemen joined. Then the latter handcuffed him and put him in a car. Already when inspecting personal belongings, they realized that they had seized the wrong one. TSN notes that according to witnesses, a man named Sergey pointed to Kowalski.

      A certain Sergei pointed to Kovalsky, they say it is he. The police rushed to beat the “scammer”.
      And they have already put to business all politics, all nationalism, and all the slogans ...
      anti-Semitism not yet sewn? He still has a Polish surname, you can still sew this ...
      is there a video. Partially in Russian. But in Ukrainian, too, it is clear

      You can read the comments under the video on YouTube. People are also unhappy with arbitrariness.
      (even heard the nickname of the police - "Avakovskie dogs")
      I hope that the attackers will be punished. There is a minimum excess. Plus treatment.
      1. sogdy
        sogdy 3 January 2019 15: 22
        0
        Once again: this person is included in the circle of persons subject to constant supervision. Such is the execution of the secrecy regime. No "cops" could approach him.
        1. Avior
          Avior 4 January 2019 01: 23
          0
          come on, nothing like that, no "supervision".
          they pointed to him as a fraudster, when they found out that they were mistaken, they just ran away
          1. sogdy
            sogdy 4 January 2019 14: 52
            0
            Quote: Avior
            come on, nothing like that, no "supervision".

            Those. privacy mode removed?
            The issue of oversight is not voluntary; it is just the execution of a regime.
            1. Avior
              Avior 5 January 2019 01: 27
              0
              I do not understand. do you mean that armed guards should follow him?
              so this is definitely not there, he’s not a genostructure.
              there all the events took a matter of minutes.
              1. sogdy
                sogdy 5 January 2019 18: 06
                0
                Quote: Avior
                do you mean that armed guards should follow him?

                In the city - seven. Outside the city - posts.
                You yourself get to know yourself, huh? I just live in it, it’s difficult for me to answer unnatural questions.
                1. Avior
                  Avior 5 January 2019 18: 24
                  0
                  I strongly doubt that every employee of Antonov goes outdoors, he’s not a general designer
                  1. sogdy
                    sogdy 5 January 2019 19: 27
                    0
                    He is on first admission.
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 5 January 2019 19: 28
                      0
                      I don’t know, and so do I, as I understand it.
                      I see just a long time ago a pensioner.
                      1. sogdy
                        sogdy 5 January 2019 19: 29
                        0
                        Vashcheta, I know.
    4. Ivan Ivanov
      Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 13: 03
      0
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      I have long said and I will repeat it - Ukraine as a country must be destroyed. That is hiccups.

      To sozh. there is no other way to resolve the issue. Norm the situation was in the spring of the 14th, division into 2 Ukraine - western and eastern with a land route to the Crimea. the bet on self-decay didn’t work; inflation of the cheeks of early March ended with the recognition of the junta.
  17. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 3 January 2019 09: 11
    -2
    Before writing sympathetic words regarding Kowalski, it would be useful to find out what views he had during the Maidan. If he jumped and carried hot tea and sandwiches to horses, then he needed it.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 3 January 2019 10: 20
      +3
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      Before writing sympathetic words regarding Kowalski, it would be useful to find out what views he had during the Maidan. If he jumped and carried hot tea and sandwiches to horses, then he needed it.

      Before dumping your speculation, collect the facts, and only then tap on the clave. negative
    2. Antares
      Antares 3 January 2019 10: 56
      +3
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      If he jumped and carried hot tea and sandwiches to horses, then he needed it.

      If you do not believe the engaged media, then mathematicians give from 20 to 60 thousand.
      Lazebny, a mathematician, used another method of counting, the “square-nested” method. He divided the territory of Euromaidan into squares of 20 x 20 m and came to the conclusion that in each square at a density of 4 people per square meter. m. there were 1 people. After simple mathematical calculations, he got a figure of 600.
      In total, the remaining 40 million Ukrainians worked, lived, loved, were born and died regardless of the "registration" on the square in the center of Kiev.
  18. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 09: 20
    +3
    This is to the fact that there are no fraternal peoples, there is a common cause leading to partnership, the affair disappears, the fraternity disappears over time.
  19. svp67
    svp67 3 January 2019 09: 28
    +3
    Instead of protecting Kovalsky, the police officers twisted him, put handcuffs on him and shoved him into a car.
    So most likely the "godfathers" of these guardians of order were thrown ...
    Unfortunately, this event is not purely Ukrainian, and this can happen in our country. But what will happen next. Someone will be punished and what? That is what will determine whether the STATE is there.
    1. cniza
      cniza 3 January 2019 09: 47
      +6
      They have no state, they cannot create it, because they are not capable ...
      1. Ivan Ivanov
        Ivan Ivanov 3 January 2019 10: 06
        +1
        Maybe they did not create the state-va from such designers, they will back it up, they will throw money there, then they will rewrite history. there are so many "great" states on the territory of the former Yugoslavia.
        1. cniza
          cniza 3 January 2019 10: 11
          +3
          If so, then yes, but they never had a real one and never will.
      2. Antares
        Antares 3 January 2019 11: 03
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        They have no state, they cannot create it, because they are not capable

        honestly, police-police chaos is characteristic of our countries. Offhand
        arrest of the wife of the famous Russian film actor Alexei Petrenko by traffic police officers. The venerable woman and mother of many children were handcuffed and severely beaten, and then they were kept for some time in the "monkey house", where the torture continued.

        Does this indicate that Ukraine and the Russian Federation are similar? Or not?
        and the police in Cherepovets ... but there are many such cases. There is no excuse for this. Neither in Ukraine nor in the Russian Federation. They only sew politics to Ukraine.
        The opinion of Ukrainians is similar to the opinion of Russians about this arbitrariness.
        1. sogdy
          sogdy 3 January 2019 15: 36
          +1
          Quote: Antares
          Offhand
          arrest of the wife of the famous Russian film actor Alexei Petrenko by traffic police officers. The venerable woman and mother of many children were handcuffed and severely beaten, and then they were kept for some time in the "monkey house", where the torture continued.

          Does this indicate that Ukraine and the Russian Federation are similar? Or not?

          The yellow press - it's so yellow ...
          On the use of handcuffs, as many reports are written as for the use of a firearm.
  20. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 3 January 2019 10: 29
    +2
    decommunized
  21. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 3 January 2019 10: 36
    +1
    Everything as usual! UPA fights with the elderly, women and children. And it does not matter for whom they are fighting, for the Nazis, Americans, Europeans, the main thing is that they are always against their people !!!
  22. Lycan
    Lycan 3 January 2019 10: 47
    +3
    Among the peoples of the former Soviet Union, one regularity wanders: If you want to live where your heart holds, get ready to accept / live with the obscurity that will come with the onset of this or that "independence". However, be prepared that the offspring will not inherit your understanding / experience of life, but will adapt to today's conceptual / polit. trend. For there is nothing else left for him - not to live by the ideals of bygone times.
    Health and fortitude to the Soviet designer! Thank you for your work!
  23. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 3 January 2019 11: 05
    0
    90s ... A remake with the national Ukrainian flavor. It’s sad.
  24. Slon_on
    Slon_on 3 January 2019 11: 21
    +3
    Revenge banderlogov Soviet designer for his work. Oh, what is missing in those parts of Sidor Kovpak with comrades!
    1. Gascon
      Gascon 3 January 2019 11: 54
      +4
      Quote: Slon_on
      Revenge banderlogov Soviet designer for his work. Oh, what is missing in those parts of Sidor Kovpak with comrades!

      Raise the bastards ...! Well, nothing .. The response will be

      Let's see who’s who ..
  25. Gascon
    Gascon 3 January 2019 11: 46
    +1
    Farmers are fighting ....! Oh well .
  26. APASUS
    APASUS 3 January 2019 11: 55
    +1
    Such a confirmation of the version that for Poroshenko - people are consumables! That grandfather, that the police, the authorities just wiped their feet and all business then
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 3 January 2019 12: 16
      -2
      ,, for Poroshenko people- consumables ,,
      In Ukraine, people deserve this. Most.
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  27. midshipman
    midshipman 3 January 2019 13: 01
    +4
    In Ukraine, in my submission there were 19 enterprises (6 State Institutions of the Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR). More than 90 thousand specialists worked there: Kiev, Khmelnitsky, Zaporozhye, Kharkov, Lviv, Odessa. Only one research institute from Kiev managed to move to Russia. The rest are eliminated. Here is the result of life in Ukraine.
  28. Berg berg
    Berg berg 3 January 2019 13: 23
    +3
    And what else could one expect from ukrofashistsky Bandera, what kind of power are such and inhuman!
  29. Alex_You
    Alex_You 3 January 2019 13: 24
    -1
    Be quiet, Kuma: and you, like me, are sinful,
    And you will break every word;
    In someone else's <#% * & #> you see a straw,
    But you don’t even see logs.
    https://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=3082041
    Or ukronatsiki in Moscow divorced?
  30. Kapkan
    Kapkan 3 January 2019 14: 13
    0
    Game as it is ...
  31. Linkov Alexander Anatolievich
    Linkov Alexander Anatolievich 3 January 2019 14: 41
    0
    What should we do now? to express concern?
  32. Tashkent citizen
    Tashkent citizen 3 January 2019 16: 37
    +1
    The complete degradation of Ukraine. The Americans will finish it off.
  33. Avior
    Avior 3 January 2019 16: 46
    +1
    The aircraft designer was driving from work and was accidentally mistaken for a fraudster.
    The policemen (from another region, by the way) were delighted with the opportunity to record their detention in a major case.
    And when the video from the camera in the restaurant with the record of the swindler was brought to the place of detention and it turned out that they had taken the wrong person, believing the word of those who claimed to be a “swindler”, they didn’t think of anything smarter than just pick up and leave.
    And now everything on the ears, on all the resources and TV in Ukraine about this case, not only the police, but also the prosecutor’s office opened the case.
    The identity of the person who pointed to the swindler has already been established, the policemen are still freezing, "they are checking", the locals have disowned them.
    Grandfather is a fine fellow, by the way, he still works at Antonov.
  34. Strategia
    Strategia 3 January 2019 17: 27
    +1
    I’m always wondering how much local people pay for inciting hatred between Russia and Ukraine, the Great Russians and Little Russians. Who do you work for - the CIA, Mossad, Mi6?
  35. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 3 January 2019 18: 40
    0
    Quote: Lara Croft
    Apparently everyone in Ukraine will calm down when the entire intellect of Ukrainian design bureaus, NGOs, and research institutes does not appear in Russia ...

    Well, or in China.
  36. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 January 2019 20: 20
    +3
    Why do I fly aircraft designers, especially with glasses and briefcases? Clearly - a separatist! Whether it’s a simple Lviv villager coming up with a new type of armor or a space rocket!
  37. bone1
    bone1 3 January 2019 21: 39
    +1
    On the outskirts, everything is as usual.
  38. macgyver
    macgyver 3 January 2019 23: 51
    +3
    If you get criminals to the police, and to deputies of the Rada of psychos from a madhouse. That is how it will be, and not otherwise.
  39. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 4 January 2019 05: 03
    +1
    The country has entered the phase - "everything according to concepts" !!! starting with the president and ending with gopniks.
  40. Varaga
    Varaga 4 January 2019 20: 50
    0
    Another example of "decommunization" in Ukrainian.
    I can’t wait until a critical mass of idiocy is reached.
    You’ll start to eat each other ...
  41. Varaga
    Varaga 4 January 2019 20: 52
    0
    Quote: Vlad5307
    Well, or in China.

    Rather, in the USA. And this already has examples.
  42. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 4 January 2019 22: 12
    0
    Nothing unusual. They grabbed an old man on the street — they wanted to spin a bribe, made a noise at work — they lagged behind the old man. If there was just a pensioner - everything, relatives wouldn’t pay, they would have sat down or gone. Probably he is not the first and not the last. But there are no facts - only speculation. Crime puts on any guise, now in Ukraine fascism is in fashion - criminals are in the forefront, behind ideological ones. Then they will change masks and will teach us to love Stalin with St. George ribbons.
  43. Waldemar
    Waldemar 5 January 2019 00: 11
    0
    There is a new word. Subcocracy