Russia is going to take away the right to the Arctic

The great European tour of US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton brought her, including to Norway. Here, she decided to visit in addition to the capital of this northern European state also the small 70-thousandth town of Tromsø, whose name immediately sounded in various world media. Not only did the whole world know that the Arctic, it turns out, has its own capital (the very Norwegian Tromsø), so also once again everyone heard from the mouth of the US Secretary of State that the Arctic belongs to all mankind, and it’s time for all countries to start and here, “sow the world” and implement the fundamental agreements on environmental protection. By the way, many of these agreements were not ratified by the Americans themselves (for example, the Kyoto Protocol), but for Hillary Clinton this was no longer important.

Such words could well go unnoticed, you never know what this American state lady says, if it were not for several "but". First, it seems to be the Arctic Council, which was formed in 1996 year, and represents the interests of seven member states: Russia, Canada, Norway, USA, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden and Finland, which are already quite active in fighting for the Arctic . Secondly, if the Arctic is assigned the status of a territory that is common to all world states, then the number of people willing to “surf” in search of rich deposits will obviously increase, and here it is unlikely that anyone will pay attention to environmental safety issues. Why should China care about the cleanliness of the Arctic, if China itself is far from it, and the resources do not smell ecology ...

Although at the same time, Mrs. Clinton’s words about what she actually considers the Arctic to be a global treasure can be considered nothing more than slyness. It's just that in the United States it is clearly understood that today Russia is representing too much force in the Arctic. The active development of the shelf by the Russian Federation is clearly not part of the plans of the West, so the United States decided to play its new card. This map looks exactly the same as giving the Arctic a seemingly innocuous status of "global space." In fact, Washington is absolutely not ready to go to the fact that companies from countries that are not geographically affected by any of the Arctic began to work actively here. Initially, of course, in the Arctic, for example, German or French companies may be admitted for external demonstration of good goals, but the final idea is to knock the soil out from under Russia’s feet in the Arctic territory. In other words, Hillary Clinton’s tirade about the Arctic as a global treasure reveals a completely different meaning: “The Arctic must remain a territory of US interests and escape more and more from Russia’s hands.”

And, we must pay tribute to the Americans, they strive to fulfill their plans on schedule. That only costs an increase in the number of US military contingent in Alaska. In addition to the largest US missile defense positional area, there are motorized infantry and airmobile brigades, five fighter squadrons, a number of coast guard ships, and in the early spring of 2012, deliveries of the upgraded F-22 Raptor fighters for the Elmendorf-Richardson base began here. At the same time, with the active support of the UK, which itself is only an observer of the Arctic Council, Canada is militarizing, with which the NATO countries are making a big bet in the Arctic region. According to statements by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, in the near future new military training centers for conducting military special operations in the Arctic will appear in the Arctic territories of Canada. In Baffin Land, Canada plans to build a new military base, which will be the main control point for incoming ships in the Arctic Ocean and going back. But that's not all. Canada, with active "sponsorship" assistance from NATO comrades, is planning to build a group of nine ships to patrol the Arctic zone. It is planned that all nine patrol vessels will begin their arctic activities as early as next year.

However, despite all the proposals that Canada makes from Britain and the United States regarding the social status of the Arctic, Ottawa has its own opinion on this subject, which, to put it mildly, does not quite coincide. Canada, by the way, and the Russian Federation, believes that the Arctic should be divided on a sectoral basis. It would seem quite sensible thought. Only here, with these sectors, Canada is somewhat one-sided. One example of Canadian "sectorality" says that even the North Pole has a master, and, as you might guess, since we are talking about the Canadian interpretation, then this master is Canada in person. That is, Ottawa’s position is very, very specific: to take part in NATO exercises, to receive financial and moral assistance from the United States and Great Britain, but at the same time try to stick a flag with a maple leaf into that very North Pole bases, to control the movement of each seal (not to mention the polar bear) ... But would the American brothers give the "maple leaves" such a chance to roam the endless expanses of the Arctic? Certainly not. Just today, the Americans need Canada as an obvious springboard for their expansion into the Arctic, since with Alaska alone, to keep such vast territories even if there are special objects (missile defense) there obviously will not work.

That is why Mrs. Clinton had to implicitly hint to Mr. Harper that American support in this case (as, indeed, in any other) is not at all gratuitous.

Now it is worth a little closer look at the issue of NATO exercises in the Arctic region. This is especially important in light of the fact that the Arctic, it seems, has been declared demilitarized by the region. Only if such a status today someone on the other side of the ocean can confuse. That is why the exercises, which were held by joint NATO forces in the north of Norway in March of this year, collected more than 16000 troops. The name of the “Cold Answer 2012” exercise and the direction “Testing the actions of NATO troops in winter conditions” clearly made it clear who this kind of maneuvers could be directed against. Well, not against Iran or North Korea, in the end ... Korea, although it is North, but somehow it will be far from Norway ...

It turns out that the words of Hillary Clinton that it is time to start “sowing the world” in the Arctic quite clearly determine for what purpose all such large-scale exercises are held. But the goals are the same - to show Russia that it may have to reconsider its plans for the development of the Arctic shelf. By the way, it should be recalled that the West became so actively interested in the “commonality” of the Arctic after Russian scientists, using deep-sea vehicles, outlined the borders of the continental shelf belonging to Russia and installed the Russian flag at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean, stressing that our country does not support opinion on the right of any state of the world to the Arctic wealth.

Well, after all, in fact: if the United States is trying to declare the Arctic a supra-state entity, the right to exploit the subsoil of any country in the world, then why shouldn't Washington start by giving this status, for example, to the Gulf of Mexico or Alaska ... Give the demilitarized zone from Florida to Yucatan, with the right, for example, of Russia and China to develop local resources! .. Yes, and the capital for this "universal" zone can be determined: why is Caracas not suitable?

In general, despite all the statements of the US Secretary of State, Russia should not retreat a step from its Arctic strategy, worked out before the 2020 year. And here, among other points, includes such a provision as “upholding national interests and strategic priorities (in the Arctic) in strict accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation”.

Materials used:
http://www.rg.ru/2009/03/30/arktika-osnovy-dok.html
http://pda.peacekeeper.ru/ru/?module=news&action=view&id=14934
http://www.norge.ru/news/2012/06/04/18746.html

Comments

[vadimus]

What passes along the Lomonosov Ridge is tortured to be selected. The dogs themselves breathe, and there with the pork snout, but in the elite row ...

[Skiff]

Or maybe Khatanga make the capital of the WORLD, it is even north

[itr]

Come on hammer in! This all happens only due to the fact that Clinton the dog does not fully fulfill the cowboy's matrimonial duties, and maybe he even scored them. Here is his woman and fidgets does not know where to spend unspent energy. Well, in short, everyone understood everything

[nitro]

This is all very funny, of course, however: while the United States and its allies are strengthening the northern component of their Armed Forces, in the only Russian "northern" 200th Motorized Rifle Brigade, the Dagestanis "train" Russian soldiers ... Feel the difference

[itr]

yes pro / Dagestan of course sad! But the next world war will be nuclear, so there is every chance that nuclear missiles will not fly to the Russian north since it is simply not cost-effective 1 person per 1000 sq. M. kilometers. So let those whose population density is significantly higher be afraid. I'm talking about our Scandinavian friends

[755962]

The Arctic has been at the forefront in the struggle for natural resources. The countries that own its coast strengthen their military presence, intending to use the rich mineral resources that will become available. The resources of the Arctic are really impressive. Only hydrocarbons, it contains about 25% of world reserves. According to geologists, almost four fifths of all energy carriers here are natural gas. In addition, the Russian Arctic can contain more than 560 billion barrels of oil, which is almost 2,5 times more than the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia! Also in the Arctic there are rich deposits of diamonds, gold, platinum, tin, manganese, nickel, lead, copper, titanium, coal ... The lion's share of these treasures is on the Russian shelves. And the key to all these riches is the Northern Sea Route. Americans can only claim part of the Arctic at the expense of Alaska formally, but not legally, because Washington did not join the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. However, in any case, even if it came to the division of the Arctic, the United States could only claim to be a relatively small sector. For the "only global superpower" this is too little. Therefore, Washington is increasingly initiating proposals for the "internationalization" of Arctic resources and access to them of TNCs and large international companies. Meanwhile, for Russia, the manifestation of weakness in this matter, and even less the loss of control over the Arctic waters, is dangerous and unacceptable. Firstly, due to the huge natural resources available on the shelf. Secondly, because of the strategic position. The Arctic Ocean is a place from where cruise missiles can be launched across Russia and at the same time intercept its strategic missiles.

[Flooding]

"Therefore, Washington is increasingly initiating proposals for the 'internationalization' of Arctic resources and the admission of TNCs and large international companies to them."
That's right. And where internationalization there comes into force the right of the fittest - they count on it. The USA in an accessible form explained to the whole world its views on the observance of sovereignty and non-interference in the internal affairs of individual states.
One can imagine that he is preparing a package of measures for the internationalization of the Arctic space under the brand name "Made in USA".

[Ascetic]

Quote: 755962

The lion's share of these treasures is located on Russian shelves. And the key to all these riches is the Northern Sea Route. Americans can claim part of the Arctic at the expense of Alaska only formally, but not legally, because Washington did not join the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea. However, in any case, even if it came to the division of the Arctic, the United States could only claim to be a relatively small sector.

Actually, the polar borders of our country were determined by a resolution of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of April 15, 1926. The water border then passed from the Kola Peninsula through the North Pole to the Bering Strait. In 1997, Russia ratified the 1982 Law of the Sea Convention. The Convention establishes the same 12 miles of sovereign territorial waters and 200 miles of the economic zone - with free shipping, but exclusive rights to use mineral and biological resources. True, any country can claim an exclusive economic zone stretching over 200 miles, if it is proved that the shelf from its shores extends beyond this distance.
In 2002, a group of domestic politicians led by the head of the Federal Border Service established border posts at the North Pole and Franz Josef Land border post. At the same time, Russia sent an application to the EU Commission on the external borders of the shelf for recognition of almost all conditionally-historical “polar possessions” within the borders of 1926, including the North Pole.
But in order to achieve rights to the polar possessions, Russia will have to prove that the underwater ridges of Lomonosov and Mendeleev are of continental origin, connected with the territory of Russia. As regards the Lomonosov Ridge, this is disputed by Denmark, which believes that the ridge is a sunken part of Greenland. To gather evidence that the Lomonosov Ridge is a continuation of the polar possessions of Russia, an unprecedented expedition “Arctic 2007” was launched, launched from Murmansk on July 24, 2007. Its leader was a deputy of the State Duma of the Russian Federation, special representative of the president of Russia on the issues of the international polar year, Hero of the Soviet Union and the famous polar explorer Artur Chilingarov.
On August 2 of the same 2007, at the northernmost point of the Earth, an immersion was carried out to a depth of 4200 m on the deep-sea inhabited vehicles Mir-1 and Mir-2. During this dive, a man first reached the bottom of the ocean under the North Pole. There, the team of the Mir-1 apparatus was the flag of the Russian Federation is set, made for durability of titanium alloy
After that, the hysteria began and continues to form in the media of the USA, Great Britain, Canada, Norway, Denmark and some other countries. As well as statements by local statesmen about almost “filibuster” methods of confirming their territorial rights applied by Russians.
So, we will not give the Arctic to anyone, neither the Scandinavian-Canadian shelluponi nor the United States and China, located on the outskirts of the Arctic coast.
For example, we compare the fleet of atomic icebreakers, which in the Arctic is of key importance. To date, 9 such ships have been built in Russia, 6 of which are underway. In addition, the Russians have a large fleet of icebreakers with conventional engines. If we talk about Russian potential in this area, it surpasses the potential of any other country in the world. And the mere fact of possessing such great opportunities to ensure shipping in the circumpolar regions strengthens the position of the Russian Federation. Suffice it to say that the United States can counter two icebreakers with several dozens of Russian icebreakers, and Canada with 2, but a lower class. Read about the development prospects of the Russian icebreaking fleet here.
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[Bashkaus]

I completely agree. I read once an American publication with a deep analysis, in general I won’t go into numbers, they really came to the conclusion that it makes no sense to launch nuclear strikes against Karelia and the Kola Peninsula. Of the several separable warheads, one is quite enough for the same Petrazavodsk, but for the rest, scattering will not be enough for worthy goals, only for extinct villages. Sorry for them on Petrozavodsk Trident -3 spend ((((

[танк]

nitro,
What is your habit of yanking eggs ??? No need to translate, I hope so understand

[11Goor11]

It may be worthwhile to find a forgery in the documents for the "sale" of Alaska and declare it as its territory, with all the equipment and buildings that turned out to be there, and declare fines for the illegal use of natural resources. Let it not be possible to take away, but at least amers run around in "ecstasy"

[танк]

If you face the truth, at the moment we still have a damn cloud of uncharted lands and resources that the leadership of the country does not have enough hands for, and you are all about Alaska ...

We have 90% of the world's reserves in amber, but we cannot process it, the Chinese are doing it in Europe and the Chinese want to catch up. And this is just an example of Kalining. in general) .We accordingly need to optimize and adjust our processing production and our production (raw materials in bulk), and not climb into others. Well, we will push Alaska and then what ???

[CC-18a]

Quote: tank

Well, push Alaska and then what ???

And then we postpone the environmental disasters of the planet.
The fact that Russia has a runoff of taiga and undeveloped (that is, not clogged) lands makes it an island that holds the stability of the environment and climate in stability.
They took alaska = cutting oil production from the United States, the main polluter in the world.
That is, take away Alaska from the United States = save 100 whales, 1000 squirrels, and remove other creatures living side by side on this planet ...
I hope I chewed it.

PS: If you suddenly dream up and separate Russia from the whole world and leave Russia in the place of emptiness, then the ecology of the world will immediately be violated, because we are 1 of 2 lungs of this planet, with 1 light person is seriously ill and dies in the end ... the same will be with the planet. Well, the parasite of this planet is essentially the United States with its capitalist system.

[Nickname]

Well, his comment pulled the balls and not just ....
How will we drop the Arctic? eagles suck, forging the same.
No, lads! If our satellites were bullets or at least
gave TsU then all communism

[vlechin]

All this has long been. They did not make all payments and, by law, such an agreement is considered not to have taken place. But all this is secondary, where can such a court be found to sue the United States?

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Alaska, and so de jure, our king did not receive money for it. Money-gold was sent through England and it, supposedly not insured, sank in the Baltic Sea!

[Alexei]

Quote: nitro

The United States and its allies are strengthening the northern component of their Armed Forces,

Yes, let them strengthen it - they make debts. Do you really think that if there are military men, then the shelves will depart to the USA? Fig, you are a naive Chukchi young man. Nobody will just give anything to anyone. All your statement is bravado, completely devoid of meaning. What is the pretext for the presence of the Arctic in the Arctic, the Yankees came up with? The bloody regime of polar bears, destroying mkotikov and penguins?

Quote: Alexej

Yes, let them strengthen it - they make debts. Do you really think that if there are military men, then the shelves will depart to the USA? Fig, you are a naive Chukchi young man. Nobody will just give anything to anyone. All your statement is bravado, completely devoid of meaning. What is the pretext for the presence of the Arctic in the Arctic, the Yankees came up with? The bloody regime of polar bears, destroying mkotikov and penguins?

Haha to listen to her at all, a person obviously does not give an account to his words.
I think that things will not come to major showdowns in the Arctic, the world stupidly does not have enough margin of safety. The ripening Great War in the Middle East, the increasingly aggravating economic crisis in the USA and Europe, leading to riots and civil war will force the countries of the Arctic Council to engage in completely different affairs ...

[UAZ Patriot]

my friend, who told you such nonsense? Now any dag in the army (if he is there) with his hands and feet with his Russian brother !!!

[Rebus]

Quote: nitro

in the only Russian "northern" 200th Separate Motorized Rifle Brigade, Dagestanis "train" Russian soldiers ... Feel the difference

My friend, have you been there?
I served in the 136th brigade (the city of Buinaksk, Dagestan), I can’t say anything bad about the Dagestanis ... quite adequate guys, we were friends helping each other. And if we come to you in Finland together, you will be sad .....
In general, Russia dominates in the Arctic - not a single country in the world owns the technology for producing atomic icebreakers, not a single fleet in the world patrols there all year round. And it is unlikely that the situation will change in the next 100 years.

[borkovn]

So they talked about Ukraine, the Baltic states, Kazakhstan and Central Asia, and the other happened.

[surkov]

Rebus
the fact that you served out there does not at all mean lawlessness in other parts!
"Adequate" Dagestan guys, while we are sharpening the fringes here, shoot and blow up the special forces of the Internal Troops and the FSB in their homeland with good success. Did you serve with them?
In 1939, Stalin had already "arrived" in Finland - the result was very sad for TENS OF THOUSANDS of Soviet boys. Study, for a start, this episode of Soviet military history and only then put up your penny
Russia dominates only in Moscow - with bureaucratic flashing lights over millions of ordinary motorists - this is a real dominance, absolutely wild for the civilized world

[pribolt]

For the hot Finnish guy nitro, the US and its allies in the Arctic are resting near Norway, the plane has already "landed" there, the dead are still being collected during the exercises

[Volkhov]

Yes, the United States only allows non-systemic opposition to be touched, but fewer and fewer.

[shifervals]

I do not think that I will reveal a military secret, but this year the deployment of 2 motorized rifle brigades should begin with the task of protecting Russia's polar possessions. One should deploy in the Pechenga area, the second in Naryan-Mar or Anadyr, I can't say more precisely. Moreover, they will not sit in the PPD, waiting for three green whistles, but will be battalion-based on the ice with monthly rotation. I do not think that amers, norgi or "maple" will dare to "touch" these guys

Now, regarding the combat power of 200 omsbr. I won’t lie, I didn’t serve there, but I served in 138 guards. Krasnoselsky Omsbr ... those who are in the know - they know where it is and what it is Dagestanis also served there, and indeed serve, but this is not the main thing. In the defense zone of 138 brigades (140 km along the front from the Gulf of Finland to Vuoksa), 5 corps are concentrated in the adjacent territory: 3 infantry, 2 rangers and 1 tank brigade. The corps, of course, was squadroned, but by no more than 50%, and even with this, the BSE - almost 7 thousand snouts, i.e. 20% of the Finnish army against less than 4 thousand on such a front. Does this not mean anything to anyone? This tells me one thing - piss. By analogy with the 200 brigade, only people there are more frost-bitten than in Kamenka So the difference is straightforward, in some, apparently, lower than the back

[Volkhov]

A wonderful picture - battalion on drifting ice for its protection. Daddy!

[Nickname]

Give me the link. I was already banned for not loving Kadyrov.
But essentially. Vysotsky promised to resume our strategic duty this summer and now he rested in a Bose. Well, with the Air Force xs let the aviators say they will be helped by a change in the commander in chief or not

[rexby63]

You can't stop it, Phoenician waffle. The events of two years ago are what happened two years ago. And the word "train" you, Mr. Chukhonets, wrote in the present tense. Sit in your chukhna and do not stick out your elo. Or learn Russian, date

[ward]

An acquaintance came from those places .... So for a glass of tea they touched on what he was doing ... and he is teaching NWP for the indigenous peoples of the north ... if the indigenous northerner just lives there ... and for him a march on 30-40 km deer just for life ... then for any other ... say Dagestan ... this is unrealistic ... so even professional special forces in the far north will not live long ... so you, as a representative of Finland, should remember the Finnish war and the role of the local population in it ....

[vlechin]

He is not guilty. After Monica Lewinsky, Clintonsha obtained compulsory treatment for her husband from sex drive. Probably now regrets ....

[Dictator]

The poor thing went moldy ... maybe we will pity her, and we’ll buy a toy for her)))

[Cadet787]

I greet you Vadim. I completely agree with you, the North, this is our wealth, the struggle for a shelf rich in minerals will soon unfold, We have begun to form an Arctic brigade, but is this enough from a military point of view? For such a territory, one team is a drop in the bucket. With the outbreak of the war for resources, there will be no compromise on the part of our sworn friends. It is worth rethinking everything in detail.

[esaul]

Cadet787,
George, welcome! I tried to reply to your letter - there is a failure with a spam alert. If not scrap, give mail - I will answer.
Sincerely. Valery.

[Marat]

Many believe that Russia has agreed to integrate with us. Belarus and God forbid Ukraine precisely because of the Arctic - the future in the Arctic - and an alliance is needed to fight for it. A reunited empire will be able to defend its interests in the Arctic zone

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

I think Marat, not only because of this, it is always easier to survive together. When he served in the army, over 3 years of service, only one serious fight was between zapadentsy and Georgians, and then on household grounds! But there were nations from all over the Union and they lived normally, no one pressed anyone, in our division it was like that, and in part we didn't hear about hostility! Who served in Ashuluk from 66 to 69 will confirm! AU!? Fellow soldiers!

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

I think it’s just strained, no one is going to fight. Any military conflict with us will result in a nuclear war, and they understand this, as long as they have no guarantee that they will prevent a retaliatory strike, there will be an appearance of effort!

[Neighbor]

They - these .... gays .... have declared more than once - that it would be nice to make the Russian subsoil a "global" property !!! Kind of dishonest - one country owns 70% of the world's resources !!!
TOKO - .... IM !!!

Quote: vadimus

The dogs themselves breathe, and there with the pork snout, but in the elite row ...

I say - ... IM !!! - and not the Arctic !!!

Quote: 755962

The Arctic Ocean is a place from where cruise missiles can be launched across Russia and at the same time intercept its strategic missiles.

There can be no compromise - either OUR - or ANYTHING !!!
Our Nuclear Club is an extra proof !!!
Yes - we are greedy - if not for us - then no one in this world !!! Victory at any cost!!! - no compromise !!!
Russia is a GREAT country, and it is Russia (and not some tattered nata) that is the future of the whole world - of all mankind !!!

[kostyan77708]

She, too, apparently is not all right with her head, like McGain !!!

[tronin.maxim]

My friend, they are all from the same madhouse!

[Dimonanet]

Yes, they are raised with DEBiLam from childhood!

[Alexander Romanov]

Do not grow, grow.

[Neighbor]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do not grow-grow

Better - and you will not say !!!

[Tersky]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Do not grow, grow.

That's right, Sasha !, vegetables, (deliberate mistake), they grow on the beds from time to time, watering shit to accelerate the growth and enhance the amber coming from vegetables ... Agronomists, .... I didn’t miss the filter ..

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

And now, what’s better, with these reforms, we are growing the same morons + tv and the authorities in FIG only think about themselves. I believe that everyone who has dual citizenship, real estate and accounts in Western banks is driven from the civil service and the deputy !

[click80]

Konstantin, did you only understand this now?

[Armata]

... When will their greed end? They got the whole world with their idiots and their idiotic statements. If you figure out who discovered the deposits, invested money in geo-exploration, he develops, they are more working on their land. Although what I mean, they have problems with geography, they do not bother themselves with such small questions "the owners of the world" damn it.

[esaul]

Quote: Steam Train

They got the whole world with their idiots and their idiotic statements

Zhenya, salute. This is idiocy multiplied by the impunity and boorishness brought up by the state media, already habitual for more than 30 years after Vietnam. Today, poking around in the internet, I came across an article about "prosperous Georgia". It tells how an English teacher who arrived in Georgia, as a result of her "fruitful work", filed a lawsuit against a Georgian citizen for denying her sex! This is a feint ...! “If you don’t want to fuck me, I’ll take you to the party committee .. Ugh! To the court!” This reminds me of the words from the classics - “The lady went to bed and ask you ...!” Now the Georgians are also obliged to fuck American women who have not been fucked by state-run hot dogs, "males" (as they love to call themselves). And this is not an isolated case!

[Armata]

Hi Valery. I read this article yesterday. She sued because Saashonok refused to have sex with her in perverse form according to her after she voluntarily provided him with the same services. Funny however. My opinion is that they just used it. Idiocy in its highest manifestation.

[Tersky]

Quote: esaul

"fruitful work" filed a lawsuit against one Georgian for the fact that he refused her sex! This is a feint ...!

Valera, welcome! You’re just like a phantom, you often disappear for a long time. According to the comment, I can say one thing, it’s not otherwise Hillory that all the kookies are on the same ground, there are obvious symptoms of an unsatisfied female on her face, she’s jumping around the world in search of ....

[esaul]

Quote: Tersky

You’re just like a phantom, you often disappear for a long time

Vitya, I am glad to welcome you again! The job is to stop. I wander on business trips and the end is not observed until the fall. Eugene correctly noticed that this female is in claims for dissatisfaction in a perverted form. Soon they will reach the point in their relations with the Georgians that they will begin to sue if the weights refuse their lapdogs and ponies to fuck. And with Hillary, you’re right, my friend, chronic under-hit beats in the brain and prevents you from thinking normally.

[Armata]

Quote: esaul

I dangle on business trips and the end is not observed until the fall

I don’t envy. I, too, will soon have to fall out of life. June UVZ (test of the training stand for Armata) well, I can go there by car every day 160 km one way, July August Khabarovsk Shipbuilding (Commissioning and testing of the Corvette and the new civilian replacement vessel Raketa) so I don’t envy the travels myself.

[esaul]

Quote: Steam Train

I too will soon have to fall out of life

Buddy What are you driving! You, on the contrary, are in the thick of life! I'm happy for you! Good luck

[Krasnodar]

rides around the world in search of .... ..in search of adventure in the lower regions! And, like all such squalid dissatisfied women, he forgets that these adventures can come to your head!

[Odessa]

Krasnodar, koment (and did not go to the point) !. I remember the phrase about the lower regions

[Basilevs]

Quote: Steam Train

When will their greed come to an end?

Greed, like stupidity, is endless ....

[serge348]

Never! Ordinary "clinic" - first money is needed to satisfy needs. Well, then the need becomes the possession of as much money as possible. In our case, these are resources, territories and entire nations. So the USA will grab until they are plugged throat.

[Ataturk]

So we survived, American der mo-raciya reaches the Arctic.
A rich region becomes a resource in the interests of the United States.

Yes, something dangerous news has gone. In the east, China steals water from a river, populates the Far East, and here they laid eyes on the Arctic. Hmm.

Well, good luck to you my Russian friends. Along the way, soon you will have to give them zvizdyule so that they woke up. It’s painful for their paw to be long. Ish where they swung.

In general, it's time to raise the issue of Alaska.

[танк]

[quote] And generally it's time to raise the question of Alaska. / quote]

Some politicians - offer to give the Kuril Islands, but you want to squeeze Alaska))) you would keep yours at such boobies who see only their interests, but not about the country as a whole

[chistii20]

In my opinion they will blather to Sami take away what belongs to us rightfully do not give themselves

[Crumbumbes]

In general, it's time to raise the issue of Alaska.

raise .. I think to close, with a nuclear shield and air defense systems :). nothing to do there and the point :)

[Oleg0705]

Quote: Ataturk

So we survived, American der mo-raciya reaches the Arctic.

they are not caught there. Georgia has long declared the Arctic a zone of its national interests, so the train left

[borisst64]

The Northern Fleet is our pillar in the Arctic!

[Guran96]

In addition, we have an undeniable advantage - these are our nuclear icebreakers!

[justas-xnumx]

Is he there? this Northern Fleet ?! He is almost gone! I declare with a full account of my words, only last year I retired to the reserve (age limit + staff reduction - "reorganization").

[Sakhalininsk]

Well, who would doubt that democracy is in danger, and the old cuckold needs more than anyone
Well, at least the northern fleet in the era of the drunk Borka was not all on nails and pins and needles, otherwise they would now sit with a bare bottom in front of the tank. The Northern Fleet is the most important deterrent for the "friends" and the stronger it is, the less attempts will be made to enter our territory.

[volcano]

The article is definitely a plus. Thanks to the author.
It is absolutely clear that the "fight for the Arctic" has begun, which can really lead to confrontation.
Of course, a clear international law is needed. Although it is still necessary to achieve its fulfillment.
Apparently, it’s also time for Russia to build up its Arctic grouping (building new bases, deploying troops), maybe even on the islands of the Arctic Ocean.
As they say, prepare a sled in the summer i.e. Get ready now by force to prove in 5-10 years your right to YOUR LAND

[baron.nn]

The Jews thank God that they did not send them oil and other natural resources, and if they started, they would now be at the Arabs' level of development ... Russia with its huge reserves will also transfer Arctic deposits ... When will we begin to live normally in Russia ?

[kotdavin4i]

When your leadership is clever and corruption does not occur - and each official will worry about his homeland and not his own pocket - in short, when the cancer on the mountain whistles ...

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

It seems to be going to this !! To the whistle of cancer! And many will not find it!

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

The Jewish money bag does all this!, The people of America do not care, they just like us just survive! It's time to stop the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds! That's who demand for a mess in the world!

[Alexander Romanov]

Arctic amer is not a toothache, they have taken too much on themselves. Bogged down in the near, but here the forces are needed which the amers do not have. One already blundered that Siberia should belong to the whole world, you’ll get horseradish, not the Arctic. Silenok is not enough.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

.... Well, everything is clear ... the states will soon see a bloody regime of polar bears that ruthlessly oppress the seal and seals ...... the complete absence of democracy and freedom of speech among the cormorants,
All that remains is to enlist the support of NATO "allies" and forward to universal democracy at the North Pole ...

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN

All that remains is to enlist the support of NATO "allies" and forward to universal democracy at the North Pole ...

Well, against this background, why does Russia need TRPK SN pr.941 "Akula", but there is no need, they are intended to plow the expanses of the Arctic Ocean, and Russia has no interests there, the United States has them.
P.S. The photo with the bears is cool, copied.

[saturn.mmm]

Drive all these freeloaders into the neck

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Saturn +++++++++++++++ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[andrey586]

Russia needs to create Arctic troops faster, since the West understands words only backed up by military force

[chistii20]

They wanted to choke the Arctic. This is our territory. And let this state secretariat learn from Monica how to work with her mouth and it’ll be better

[Farvil]

We persistently continue to destroy the army, and here are the results, we monitor our reality carefully and make appropriate estimates, if we really had a strong army, they would not behave so brazenly, that means we have weakened enough that we can begin an active fuss . What the leadership itself does not know what to do in the army.

[Curculum]

Farvil, where is it with you? If your leadership does not know, then enlighten, at least on the pages of this resource, why should you clave in vain ...

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Compatriots! How to influence the authorities, so that the course changes !? Who voted for Putin, you don’t see, nothing changes! He removed the odious ones, and the money abroad and the Central Bank of RUSSIA are in private hands, which the US Federal Reserve looks into its mouth. We are not a sovereign country, we live under the dictation of the State Department! You need to change power if it is against your country!

[Vasily79]

All this fuss of the offended woman with Georgia, our Norway in Iraq, etc. is just pressure on Russia on the Syrian issue. The Arctic was too tough for them, but they had fussed in Alaska for a long time.

[hrych]

GDP urgently needs to be invited to Moscow on an official visit, our dear, so to speak, Monica Lewinsky, and hand her some order. And then the old woman Hilary (Louhi) was sold in earnest. Due to intransigence on the Syrian issue, she ran to the tie-sucker, and in Norig, the muddy waters are clouding her greasy hair.

[Odessa]

Hilary’s daughter (a magnificent Jewish wedding), instead of giving the Arctic, would give Hilary Tanah, with a memo, who came with what, that will work! Let it cool Madame, wanting is not harmful (not oil, not Russian land)!

[Tersky]

Quote: Odessa

to give Hilary Tanah, with a memo, who came with what, that will work!

Esther + !!! The only problem is that Hillory already has nothing to earn, because what she walks with is obviously a web already tucked up, hence the obscurity. Is it that Monica will ask for advice regarding the re-profiling of the tool

[Odessa]

Monica is still the same, but when Bill was in the `` business in the oval office, '' the question of the Arctic did not even arise for the United States.

[Tersky]

Quote: Odessa

the question of the Arctic did not even arise in the USA.

, well, it’s understandable, the reason was very respectful, unless before the Arctic at such a crucial moment

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Interestingly, the amers who know the Russian language come to the site? + Immigrants, they would have enlightened their own, because they will flirt with impunity! They do not know the Russian proverb: Do not wake famously, while it is quiet!

[Curculum]

Odessa, and the daughter looks, as it were, to put it mildly - frightened, or something ...

[Igarr]

No, my daughter seemed pleased.
Though not close to the Secretary of State to live. She, what, the organizer, or what, what?
And here by itself, here’s the husband nearby.

[Alexs3524]

Her smile reminds me of a collective horse named gray

[kuzmich]

oh, these liquid-Zionist obscurantist creeps, imagined themselves to be earthen managers.

[Armata]

Quote: alexs3524

Her smile reminds me of a collective horse named gray

I’m more interested where her eyes are directed, she’s slanting in life or has seen in the crowd of her lover, she can’t tear herself away.

[Odessa]

Steam locomotive (3), agree with me that Yury writes about Hilary much more interesting ....

[Armata]

I’m not going to take his laurels from Andrei.

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Wow, how to suit! Neither add nor decrease!

[Che]

Odessa,
Well, erysipelas, cleaner than mothers. And mother x --- in one place, so that the crackers do not crumple, and not the Russian Arctic.

[Odessa]

Che (1) came up with a thought, in the cliton clan of politics, as if this mamzel Hilary had not changed, the apple from the apple tree as they say or the like gives rise to the like.

[TRex]

And I would declare our Beluga, the capital of the Arctic, on New Earth!
To return there the air defense regiment, to deploy missile positions, to equip the Navy humanly, to establish a permanent presence in the area of ​​the KMG and nuclear submarines.
What else is needed for complete happiness? We are pleased - and the "partners" are also good ...

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

The brother of the Arctic capital is Murmansk, even according to the Norwegians. And we have enough forces there to carry out the restoration of infrastructure for the sun. Here is the priority task there for the military.

[Trudy]

Yes, and near Murmansk - the base of the Navy Vidyaevo. Not a bad base ...

[justas-xnumx]

It was, unfortunately, "I gnawed at it before - I can't, just like Gadzhievo and Polyarny. Earlier it was impossible to push on the piers, now it is emptiness.

[13017]

Earlier in the winter, in Severomorsk from the direction of Murmansk, you’ll climb up so the roads were always full of ships and Kiev smoked quietly there, but now I can’t imagine

[esaul]

Quote: TRex

To return there the air defense regiment, to deploy missile positions, to equip the Navy humanly, to establish a permanent presence in the area of ​​the KMG and nuclear submarines.

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

And we have enough forces there to carry out the restoration of infrastructure for the sun. Here is the priority task there for the military.

Guys, I believe in it. And the will, and the desire, and the means appeared! I think we have something to "offer" to "partners"!

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

And so it will be no doubt! And there will be nothing for Amers to catch there! Even if Alaska fussed around .. by measure generally a cord. Only through Canada ..

[AIvanA]

And for some reason, it seems to me, if you collect all the points of the trip of Mrs. Clinton, as well as statements, the buildup of military forces in the northern directions, some kind of unpleasant preparation can be traced, because the northern regions of Russia are bare, even with military pants, and in connection with this is not the case in the Arctic, but when this gun will fire, but in principle it can even be calculated.

[andreycherenok]

Quote: TRex

And I would declare the capital of the Arctic our Beluga, which is on Novaya Zemlya! Return the air defense regiment there, deploy missile positions, equip a naval base in a human way, establish a permanent presence in the area of ​​the KUG and nuclear submarines. What else is needed for complete happiness? We are pleased - and the "partners" are also good ...

It would be great. In addition, do not forget that the pole is ideal for launching ballistic missiles.

[Belf]

Now let's see what these “leading states” have in the Arctic:
U.S.:
3 US Coast Guard heavy icebreakers. Two of them were built in 1976 and 1978: USCGC Polar Sea WAGB-11 and USCGC Polar Star WAGB-10 - non-nuclear, 13000 tons. But the main thing is that they do not work. Only one thing works - the 2000-ton USCGC Healy WAGB-16000 built in 20. Despite the greater displacement, Healy is weaker and can penetrate only 135 cm of ice, and old icebreakers - up to 180 cm.
Polar Star is in a long overhaul worth $ 57 million, which should extend the life of the ship by 7-10 years. US BO wants to recycle Polar Sea. A number of senators strongly oppose this. According to independent studies, the United States needs 3 heavy and 3 medium-sized icebreakers. Polar Sea was repaired in 2006, but its engines failed in 2010. The United States Department of Defense decided not to undertake additional repairs worth about $ 22 million, since, in their opinion, it would not be able to extend the life of the ship, which expires in 2014. The total US spending on the icebreaker fleet in 2012 will amount to $ 39 million.
The US needs to build new icebreakers to replace two old icebreakers. But one heavy icebreaker is 10 years old and about $ 1 billion.
NORWAY:
Svalbard, W 303 (Norwegian KV Svalbard) - Norwegian icebreaker, armed with the coast guard. It is also used as a patrol ship. Designed in the late 1990s to support other coast guard ships, in particular, Nordkap type patrol ships. Adopted in 2002. It is one of the largest ships in service with the Norwegian Navy. Displacement as much as 6,5 thousand tons.

Well, modestly so in RUSSIA, and this is only more than 10 MW:

Thor
10 MW Owned by Auxiliary Fleet LLC. Works in the Baltic (at the beginning of 2007)
"Dudinka"
10 MW Owned by MTF OAO MMC Norilsk Nickel. Operates on the Yenisei (as of 2006)
Ermak
26,5 MW On the balance sheet of FSUE “Rosmorport”. Works in the Baltic.
Admiral Makarov
26,5 MW Owned by Fesco (FESCO).
Krasin
26,5 MW Owned by Fesco (FESCO).
"Captain Sorokin"
16,2 MW On the balance sheet of FSUE “Rosmorport”. Works in the Baltic.
"Captain Nikolaev"
16,2 MW Owned by FSUE “Rosmorport”.
Talagi
12 MW Purchased by Rosneft in 2003 for escorting tankers. Former Canmar Kigoriak.
"Captain Dranitsyn"
16,2 MW Owned by FSUE “Rosmorport”. Certified as a passenger ship (for cruising).
"Captain Khlebnikov"
16,2 MW Owned by Fesco (FESCO).
Magadan
7 MW Owned by Fesco (FESCO). It is used in the framework of Sakhalin oil projects and as a port icebreaker.
"Vladimir Ignatyuk"
OK. 17 MW Icebreaker-tug. Purchased by MMP in 2003. Former Arctic Kalvik.
FESCO Sakhalin
17,4 MW Owned by Fesco (FESCO). It is intended for service of drilling platforms.
Pacific Endeavor
17,3 MW Owned by Primorsky Shipping Company and Swire Pacific. Designed to service drilling platforms as part of the Sakhalin-2 project.
Pacific endurance
17,3 MW Owned by Primorsky Shipping Company and Swire Pacific. Designed to service drilling platforms as part of the Sakhalin-2 project.
Pacific Enterprise
17,3 MW Owned by Primorsky Shipping Company and Hong Kong's Swire Pacific. Designed to service drilling platforms as part of the Sakhalin-2 project.
"Vladislav Strizhov"
20 MW Owned by Sevmorneftegaz. Designed to service drilling platforms as part of the development of the Prirazlomnoye field.
"Yuri Topchev"
20 MW Owned by Sevmorneftegaz. Designed to service drilling platforms as part of the development of the Prirazlomnoye field.
"Moscow"
16 MW Transferred to FSUE "Rosmorport" for operation in the Baltic.
"St. Petersburg"
16 MW Transferred to FSUE "Rosmorport" for operation in the Baltic.

[hrych]

Our nuclear submarines with a solid hull are also a kind of icebreakers "from below".

[justas-xnumx]

And which one is in the North? I often drive along the opposite shore of the Kola Bay, and there are 5-6 icebreakers, well, a couple more in the sea, tourists ride, and that’s it!

[Sehiru san]

You still haven’t said about our nuclear ...
And by the way, it's time to build the Nuclear-powered icebreakers Aircraft carriers and Cruisers ...

[Lyokha79]

There is nothing surprising in either the statements or the exercises. The Arctic is too big and a fat piece, so as not to try to tear more from it, and the United States, with its appetites and greed, will make every effort, up to a military conflict, in order to take over most of the Arctic. And in this case, our authorities in this situation should not retreat from their positions, no matter what anyone says or does. The good news is that the Gorbachev-Yeltsin era has passed and the current authorities will take measures against American expansion to our north.

[TRex]

Guys! A few more photos from there ... Sorry, could not resist.

I can’t attach everything at once ..

We had everything there - even part-time farms.

[Igarr]

Photo - download.
Thank you.

[Armata]

The test photo. And that bear bear was not touched? He is like a predator

[party3AH]

Quote: Steam Train

The test photo. And that bear bear was not touched? He is like a predator smile

Mishunya eats them if he touches them, there will be no more free food, how dirty it is under "his" zakos.

[Sehiru san]

Probably tried at first, but received a couple of times in the face from a freelance pork sergeant Ohrimenko (And who else knows a lot about fat ) decided that it would be better to pretend to be a pig ...

[Alexs3524]

Where is it taken? Wonderful photo.

[UAZ Patriot]

ahaaa bear-this is Russia and the cartilage of Britain and the United States of Canada))))))))))))))

[Evgen2509]

Is it a montage, or is it a pig in the north so fattened that they outgrew a bear?)))))

[TRex]

Evgen! This is not a montage. A young bear, fed on a pigsty. They say - went to a meal, as on a schedule. In PND I will post a couple of pictures.

[tarnishes]

No chance to come to where Russia has been for centuries!

[Tersky]

Quote: ternit

No chance to come to where Russia has been for centuries!

Why? There is a chance to come ..... , there’s definitely no way to leave

[Delink]

Yes, we went along all directions at the same time and systematically. Lavrov alone is not enough for everything. Well, where is our promised "information warfare department"? So that they can insert the end that they are looking for and so far cannot find.

[TekhnarMAF]

H. Clinton has clear symptoms of the development of senile marasmus against the background of prolonged menopause and psychosis caused by Monica! But how are these "warriors" going to act in the Arctic? They need to fight comfortably.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

For some time I lived in Troms there myself and the girl came, the Norwegians are normal guys, they’ll buy it, because if the states do what they think they’ll just throw them. By the way, they consider the capital of the Arctic Murmansk. And there a bunch of Norwegians drives to cosmetology salons (we have cheaper and better) and various clinics. Plus, the city is a large one by Arctic standards, more than 300 thousand people. Many people drive there for ikend, because they can get bored out of boredom. So, the Norwegians are very good towards Russians and they will buy it, especially since they are pushing visa-free regime with us. But we urgently need to accelerate the development of equipment for eight Arctic brigades and accelerate the restoration of airfields (they are modernized, but I would like faster). Plus, air needs modern ports, logistics centers and an icebreaker fleet. All this will be realized of course, but since such conversations have begun, it would be necessary to hurry.

[vadimN]

You can find fault with amerikosov, you can not pay attention .... but the Arctic group of armed forces to build up and build up! And the fleet! Without it, nowhere ... The main thing is that the stool minister does not "optimize" the four-string of what is still preserved in the Arctic ...

[LaGlobal]

Quote: "Such words could well go unnoticed, you never know what this American state lady says" - I would write something else instead of a lady! For example: bitch

[Manager]

The Arctic belongs to all of humanity

Yeah, and they probably think of the United States as humanity?
What is the shelf and the Arctic. Soon they will have nothing to eat in Afghanistan, etc. (valiant US soldiers).
Paranoid, one word. Megalomania . Of the past. They now need to get used to a different name. USA - Doubtful States of America.

[Odesit]

Very correct article.
Then I remembered amerovskoy doctrine of "open doors", which they invented at the beginning of the last century in China. Remember how it ended ?!
The picture seems to be starting to develop in a similar scenario.
The buildup begins with verbiage about the equal opportunities of all interested parties, and ends with the Amerian monopoly.
I hope we do not provide them with such an opportunity again.
The military and economic interests of the states and their cronies are not hidden here. You can't cover it up with any talk about "democratic society and human rights" - there is no oppressed people (except perhaps seals and polar bears). Judas, shows his true face.
Only they lose sight of, or simply do not understand, that this is a very complex theater of operations
And Hilary, what can I take from her, a bitch is a bitch, all the more sick on her head.

[esaul]

Odesit,
Greetings, my friend! Glad to see you on the site!

Quote: Odess

I hope we do not provide them with such an opportunity again

I join your words. I think we learned the lessons of 90's.

[Odesit]

Hello Esaul!
Very happy to read you. How is life, how is service ?!
I was gone for a long time, but then I appeared again.
Thanks for the kind word buddy!

[kotdavin4i]

In Soviet times, on the political map there was the Arctic zone of influence of the USSR (or whatever it is called there) marked with a dotted line from Norway through the North Pole and to the Berengov Strait - and not a single dog could say anything - after the collapse of the alliance of this "dotted line" on the political map I do not observe Russia - A pity!

[Sehiru san]

It was called: "The border of the polar possessions of the USSR" And no one dared to cross it.

[htpm100]

the us allies in the region are a bit much (norway, sweden, canada) but even so we will have stronger allies (polar bears, penguins) so that we have every chance of owning this region)))))

[Odessa]

I can’t understand why so many got so excited? From the provocative title of the publication? The Arctic has been Russian territory for centuries, and the ravings coming from the USA are just anger that the GDP did not appear at the GXNUMX meeting. Hilary is a problematic lady, she can only sympathize .
http://www.scrf.gov.ru/documents/98.html

[Odesit]

Hello neighbor, what street will you be from?
All right, you said about Hilary. But here’s no problem, for this
with permission, the woman is aircraft, missiles and submarines, unfortunately.
So, here obviously you have to demonstrate strength, one way or another. Otherwise, in our new "democratic world" you will not get respect and you will be left without a piece of the pie!
Regards to you.

[Odessa]

Hello, Odessa (1), that's why she’s scared that such aunts are in power, they just have to tear or grab something, otherwise there will be no peace. One is glad that Obama, whatever he is, still does not give vent to a splash , all of her ambitions and does not go on her occasion. Photo-political feminists.

[Odesit]

Esther! (let me turn to you like that)
Sorry I can not give you a bouquet of fresh wildflowers!
You are just great.
But Obama from the barque, like any president of Amerostan, I do not believe.

[esaul]

Quote: Odess

Sorry I can not give you a bouquet of fresh wildflowers!

Do not consider me as a womanizer, guys, but let me give Esther at least such a flower
I watched your dialogue with pleasure and - could not resist, interrupted

[Odessa]

Yesaul and Odessa, thank you for the flowers!

[Odessa]

I thank Oleg the journalist, Valery and Odesit for the flowers, thank you guys!

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[Odesit]

Hmm ..... I do not know how to put such emoticons. Well, what can you do - the darkness!
Valera, please teach me how to do this, enlighten the dark man, otherwise it’s uncomfortable in front of Esther!

[Odessa]

Odessa (1), who would say that it is not convenient, are you kidding?
And to be honest, thank you guys for the verses, and the journalist Oleg and Esaul and you for the flowers and attention!

[Odesit]

You're welcome.
Smart women in our time are as rare as the paintings of Titian.
With respect.

[Odessa]

It can be seen that you are Odessa (1) esthete, and you have never heard of Titian, but Cicero was sometimes revered!
Now I’ve read a new joke in the news, Somali bandits give 10 camels to someone who tells them the location of Obama, and then another 10 who tells them where the white house is, and since the guys from Somalia, then they’ll throw another 10 who tells where America is.

[Odesit]

Esther.
Let's announce an international subscription - a lottery.
We will give two hundred camels - for the destruction of the White House by Somali pirates And another bonus of 2 donkeys and a can of cola for Hilary’s head.
Funny, funny !.

[Odessa]

For Hilary, a dozen chickens were offered, like a chicken itself, so the bandits apparently rated it by ..... didn’t specify the truth, gutted or what?

[SASCHAmIXEEW]

Do not flatter yourself! Clinton is the same doll as Putin! Puppeteers in the Fed, the Masonic money clique of the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds! That's who you need to push! All EVIL from them, from their greed!

[andis777]

I think our government should defend the interests of its former territories and transfer back the 7.2 million dollars that we lent in 1867 to Alaska - USA

[Liberal]

Why Russia needs the Arctic? Is it really possible that Russian oil companies, the owners of which have long kept families and accounts in the hostile West, pumped oil from there ... sold it for enemy dollars and euros to the enemy West and then bought for the same enemy dollars and euros in the enemy West - palaces and yachts the size of a titanic ?? Do not confuse the interests of any Timchenko with dual citizenship and the interests of Russia. Even if all these Timchens are friends of our beloved, august National Leader ...
The future of the Russian Federation is the fate of the world leader in nanotechnology and not the fate of the miserable raw materials appendage of the West and China! Go Russia!!

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

And where is the loot for development? Here, in order to become a high-tech country, we are fighting for the Arctic.

[Liberal]

So where is it seen that developed countries sell the latest developments and technologies to such countries as the Russian Federation? The maximum of what they sell is junk at an exorbitant price .... for example, a friend of the commander, unsinkable roofing chubais - spends billions of budget money, buys old production lines in the hostile West, and this gives out the development of the nanotechnology industry in the Russian Federation

[TROG]

You don’t need to invest money in Rosnano
those billions of rubles that were invested in the notorious light bulbs
to an e-book for schoolchildren for a price for which you can buy
tablet or a couple of awesome e-books
and other
it will be privatized by the year 16, as the top said.

[andis777]

The future of the Russian Federation is the fate of the world leader in nanotechnology and not the fate of the miserable raw materials appendage of the West and China! Go Russia!!

I agree with this opinion, but keep in mind that any nano and other technologies need initial material and long-term support, as As a rule, they shoot after only a very long time (eg. Mobile communications, Internet, etc.) and I am very glad that we, unlike many European and Asian countries, have resources that you can rely on to support scientific activities.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Liberal.

The future of the Russian Federation is the fate of the world leader in nanotechnology and not the fate of the miserable raw materials appendage of the West and China! Go Russia!!

I completely agree with this, but the Arctic will not be superfluous.
On the tech tech USA, the distant and cold Arctic question.

[Flooding]

Liberal
In some ways, you are right. Namely: Russia does not need the Arctic in the first place for its resources. It struck thirty years that way. So far, in the Russian Federation, thank God, there are enough raw materials without Arctic reserves.
The principle of the question seems to me different: to defend our territorial interests, which is a matter of honor for any country.
And to admit there dirty dealers from across the ocean does not seem possible for Russia. Where the Yankees are, there is blood and a great EVIL.

[Yarbay]

And why the Arctic America of Norway and others ??
And all this garbage, Russia has interests there and Russia will be there !!!!!!!!

[shifervals]

Liberaland it’s a brilliant idea to make the national leader august the whole West from buttherth will suffocate

[Pilot200809]

. ONE PIECE ON ALL SNOW

[Bashkaus]

It is necessary to modernize the modern icebreaker fleet, do not forget that any nuclear-powered icebreaker, and even a diesel one with the "Made in USSR / Russia" brand. Essentially, it is an auxiliary cruiser, in the home ports for everyone, gun weapons are carefully oiled in oil. And there is no equal to our icebreaker fleet in the world, which means that our ships have complete domination in the Arctic ice, I think MiG31 provide them with good cover on the northern borders. NATO at the moment there is nothing to catch with its Tikondenrogami, but it's cold.
But this does not mean that we should relax. It is necessary to create a new generation of icebreakers, such that if you would call at the port of Vancouver, then in Chicago itself.

[vadimN]

The creators of the icebreaker fleet understood well its purpose - not only to chop ice :) Who understands - sees the gray antenna of the Bars artillery radar on the bow superstructure. It is clearly visible - it stands out clearly against the general red background :) Keep it up!

[vadimN]

from this angle it is better to see ...

[Shuriken]

heard from the mouth of the US Secretary of State that the Arctic belongs to all mankind, ---- So this is not news, we have already heard this from the "common people" about Siberia! And, IMHO, until the "Poplar" arrive on their own (as their share of the total property) -will not calm down!

[Tersky]

Quote: Shuriken

heard from the mouth of the US Secretary of State that the Arctic belongs to all of humanity,

I will continue her thought, -And all "humanity" lives in the United States, the rest of the world is all that should feed, water, amuse this "humanity". Won't you get fucked up by requests, Hillory?

[Nechai]

Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN

..states will soon see a bloody regime of polar bears that ruthlessly oppress the seal and seals ..

Igor, your photo inspired, from the song of Alexander Viktorov -.... And the polar bears walk, at the navigator's head ...
Songs of submariners "AVTONOMKA" Alexander Viktorov - http://avtonomka.org/

[Dust]

More recently, on all Soviet geographical maps, including school ones, the USSR border quietly passed through the North Pole - I was quite happy with this and I don’t understand - Why did it suddenly stop passing there?
Of course. the power of traitors to national interests has worked hard to surrender the country's interests, but it is necessary to strive to restore that status quo ...

[IRBIS]

I join the chorus in favor of adorning the face of Mrs. Clinton and, in her office, the faces of all Americans and other "sowers of democracy" with a part of a strong male body. There is only one BUT ... Listen to the voice of JUSTASa -914 !!! I have a son - a naval officer in the North. What happened to the Northern Fleet is our tragedy. There may not be enough time for rearmament. It seems to the common man in the street that we have enough forces in the region under discussion, but the military knows the bitter truth. What was ditched, the reduction reached the level of insanity. "Kuzya" is in need of major repairs and deep modernization, "Petrusha" is also seriously ill. Each exit of our ships to the sea is a real feat of sailors! The Arctic cannot be given away, and for this we need a real, full-fledged Fleet in the north, and not its pale shadow.

[vadimN]

You're right! I served in the SF in the late 90s and early XNUMXs. The collapse began before my eyes ... Not so long ago I was in those parts (Rybachy, Liinakhamari, Polar) ... I saw with horror that, despite the bravura talk about the revival of the fleet, the collapse only worsened. Just acquired "civilized" forms ... "Optimization" ... damn it ...!

[vadimN]

Russian North is always hospitable!

[vampik88]

you need to keep your border, which was the USSR and the point !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TROG]

There is still a suggestion.
Type send to the north whom the thread from the top.
And amers, as they like, give in writing
What
We and the inhabitants of the Arctic, i.e. polar bears and penguins
reached an agreement
That we bring them democracy and technological prosperity.
That from protection from North Korea we have to
put there S-400 regiments and several military bases ...

[lcalex]

Penguins live in Antarctica ....
But the rest is a good idea

[911811711]

By the way, in Antarctica they found oil for the bloody penguin regime, the end has come!

[Simon]

Penguins have long fled from there to the South Pole, anticipating this expansion. Now they are calmer there.

[nemo778]

Simon, Antarctica and the South Pole, it's the same thing! It's a shame not to know !!!

[Yuriy66]

Missiles and bases are good. Only no one on the site remembered NGOs as mushrooms growing in this territory. Norway Sweden is promoting the Pomeranian question. That Pomors have nothing to do with Russia but are closer to them. Hilary's application is the first call. Next will be incrementally.

[TROG]

But agree, if we have a strong north, no questions about Pomors will help them. Well, or at least to complicate very much what they want to do.

[Kite]

"According to Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, in the near future, new military training centers for conducting military special operations in the Arctic will appear in the Arctic territories of Canada"
- and again they will say that they suppose to fight in the polar zone north Korea or Iran?
Lies about missile defense does not mislead anyone! And what kind of nonsense will they compose on this topic?

[Volkhov]

This is not nonsense, but part of the truth. Iranian roots in northern Sweden and in Norway.

[Centaurus]

There is such a not decent song , which, it seems to me, is the best suited to answer old Clinton, on this and many other similar questions :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCLNPMR0W70


Especially the chorus ...

[Van]

We will not allow our lands to be squandered, and everyone who is against will be impaled.

[mpanichkin]

Maybe someone will judge me and give me disadvantages, but I don’t understand naf usa this server? oil? But why is it when Russia pumps it and sells it to everyone who will buy it for a certain price. And pumping oil and gas to the Arctic is very expensive and cold! Why do this when the bears themselves will give them away for some green pieces of paper!
What is this nonsense, America can and will say somewhere to send expeditions, but to capture them!? God forbid the Americans are heat-loving creatures and they prefer Chicago, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan! BUT not RUSSIA! In which it’s -30 in winter!

[CC-18a]

It's strange that no one has posted yet

[CC-18a]

Someone downvoted this dem) I'm shocked . Probably McCain himself was There is no one to minus except him)

[Simon]

They do this in order to infringe on us, they show that they rule the world. Or maybe they want to indoctrinate polar bears and seals with their democracy?

[Captain45]

I myself live in the Arctic, so I am following the topic out of purely sporting interest, so to speak, and therefore I offer you a small overview of the presence and state of the armed forces of the countries of the Arctic region:
Canada
During the period after the end of the Cold War, the Canadian Armed Forces, like almost all other armed forces of NATO member countries, went through significant reductions and transformations. In 2005, the Canadian Command was created, which is responsible for conducting all military operations in North America (both jointly with the United States and independently). The Command structure includes 6 regional subcommands (Northern, Pacific, Steppe, Central, Eastern and Atlantic). In 2006, the Expeditionary Forces Command (responsible for peacekeeping operations), the Special Forces Command (responsible for the fight against terrorism) and the Auxiliary Command (responsible for logistics support of the armed forces) were formed [5].
Moreover, in reality, almost all aircraft [6, pp. 28-31] are subordinate to the Canadian command. Immediately after the end of the Cold War, the Canadian military contingent was completely withdrawn from Europe, but after the start of the Afghan NATO operation, about 3 thousand Canadian troops (1 brigade group) were sent to Afghanistan.
The ground forces (number about 35 thousand people) include 3 motorized infantry brigades (1st, 2nd, 5th), an engineer regiment, and an air defense regiment. In 2007, Canada purchased 100 Leopard-2 tanks from Holland, another 20 of the same tanks were leased from Germany, and 12 tanks were purchased from Switzerland for spare parts. However, to date only 40 tanks have arrived from Holland. Most of them are immediately sent to Afghanistan. In addition, the ground forces are armed with up to 60 obsolete Leopard-1 tanks, 200 Coyote combat reconnaissance vehicles (BRM), more than 1,2 thousand armored personnel carriers (APCs), about 200 artillery pieces of 105 and 155 mm caliber, more than 100 mortars, 500 Tou and Erics anti-tank missile systems (ATGM), 33 ADATS anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM).
The Air Force (about 20 thousand people) includes 11 air commands and the Canadian component of the joint Canadian-American North American air defense system NORAD. In service are 80 F-18 fighters, 18 SR-140 anti-submarine aircraft, 7 tankers (2 A-310, 5 KS-130), about 50 transport aircraft, incl. 7 strategic (3 A-310, 4 C-17) and 24 tactical (C-130), 30 training aircraft, more than 130 helicopters, incl. 6 heavy transport CH-47 and 28 anti-submarine CH-124 Sea King. The NORAD system component includes 11 long-range and 36 short-range radar stations [7].
The Navy (11 thousand people) is armed with 4 Victoria-class submarines (formerly British Upholder), 3 Iroquois-class destroyers, 12 Halifax-class frigates, 12 Kingston-class minesweepers and 12 patrol ships. Another 60 patrol ships and boats and 6 icebreakers are part of the Coast Guard.
Thus, the Canadian Armed Forces are quite small in terms of the number of personnel and the amount of equipment, and they also have limited capabilities in terms of transporting troops over long distances (in particular, the Navy does not have landing ships). Almost all units and units of the ground forces and air force are stationed in the southern part of the country (south of the 50th parallel), the most “northern” is the 1st motorized infantry brigade (Edmonton, 53 N). Only the 1st Battalion of the Canadian Rangers (Yellowknife, 62 N) is stationed in the northern territories.
Over the past 3 years, the Canadian leadership has repeatedly expressed concern about the situation in the Arctic, incl. Russian military activity, US claims to the NWP and territorial disputes with Denmark. In this regard, it was planned to increase the number of rangers from 4,1 to 5 thousand people, and to build a ground forces center for training in combat operations in Arctic conditions in Resolute [1]. So far, however, these plans have not been implemented, because The country's military and financial capabilities are very limited, and cooperation with the United States is not always possible due to contradictions between these countries specifically on the Arctic issue.
Norway
Norwegian Armed Forces [6, pp. 150-152] and Denmark [6, pp. 126-128] after the end of the Cold War, they underwent very significant reductions, becoming one of the smallest in terms of the number of personnel and the number of weapons and equipment among the armed forces of all NATO countries. At the same time, these two countries, unlike most other NATO countries, have retained the conscription system for manning the armed forces. The ground forces (8 thousand people) include 1 motorized infantry brigade "Nord" (used primarily as a training unit), a regiment of special forces appointments, Border Battalion and Royal Guard Battalion. It is armed with 72 tanks (52 Leopard-2, 20 Leopard-1), more than 100 CV9030 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs), about 400 armored personnel carriers, more than 50 M-109A3 self-propelled artillery units (SAU), more than 250 mortars , more than 500 ATGMs "Eriks" and "Javelin". The Air Force (2,5 thousand people) is armed with 57 F-16 fighters, 6 R-3 Orion anti-submarine aircraft, 3 DA- electronic warfare aircraft 20, 4 C-130J transport aircraft, 15 Safari training aircraft, 36 helicopters, incl. 12 anti-submarine "Sea King". The Navy (3,5 thousand people) includes 6 submarines of the Ula type, 5 frigates of the Nansen type, 6 hovercraft missile boats of the Skjold type, 6 minesweepers of the hovercraft type " Alta" and "Oksoy", 20 landing boats of type 90N. In addition, 10 patrol ships are part of the Coast Guard. Nansen-class frigates are among the most modern warships of this class in the world; missile boats and hovercraft minesweepers have virtually no analogues in the world. Frigates and missile boats are armed with the only supersonic anti-ship missile (ASM) in the West, NSM (besides Norway, only Russia and China have been able to create supersonic anti-ship missiles) [8].
Units and subunits of the Norwegian Armed Forces are fairly evenly distributed throughout the country. At the same time, the tank battalion of the Nord brigade (the most combat-ready unit in its composition) is located in the north of the country. Orion anti-submarine aircraft are also based there. In the Narvik area there are the Ramsund naval base and the Sortland base station of the Norwegian Navy, but only Coast Guard ships and boats are assigned to them. Also in the north of the country there are a number of reconnaissance facilities (radar and RTR stations).
Denmark Ground forces (10,6 thousand people) include one division, which includes 2 brigades (including 1 training brigade). In service there are about 150 tanks (65 Leopard-2, the rest - Leopard-1), about 120 armored personnel carriers, about 500 armored personnel carriers, 24 M-109 self-propelled guns, more than 30 mortars, 12 MLRS multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), 20 Tou ATGMs, Stinger MANPADS. The Air Force (3,5 thousand people) are armed with 48 F-16 fighters (another 7 to 10 are in stock reserve), 7 transport aircraft (4 C-130J, 3 CL-604), 28 T-17 training aircraft, 33 helicopters (12 AS-550, 7 Sea King, 14 EN-101). The Navy (3,5 thousand people) includes 4 Tethys-class frigates , 10 corvettes of the Fluvefisken type (4 with anti-ship missiles, 2 in the patrol version, 4 in the minesweeper version), 9 patrol boats, 10 minesweepers, 2 support ships of the Absalon type. The latter, in fact, have no analogues in the world. They have powerful artillery and missile weapons (approximately at the level of a frigate), while at the same time being landing ships. Also, the Fluvefisken type corvettes have no analogues, in the design of which the modular principle is fully used [9]. All 3 icebreakers that were part of the Danish Navy were put up for sale at the beginning of 2011, because... in the Jutland area there is no need for them, and the possibility of their combat use in the Arctic is apparently not being considered [10]. All Danish armed forces are stationed in “Denmark proper,” i.e. on the Jutland Peninsula and surrounding islands. At the same time, the Navy has a Greenland command. It includes 12 warships (on rotation) and 23 fishery security boats, its commander (headquarters is in Grennedal) is the senior military commander of Denmark on the island. Subordinate to him is the Sirius sled patrol, which monitors the coastal strip by traveling on dog sleds in the summer. The number of patrols is about 30 people. (junior officers and non-commissioned officers) [11]. Cro

[veins]

and the resume? what follows from this?

[lcalex]

Quote: Vein

and the resume? what follows from this?

Can you imagine how long it takes to write so much?
And I wonder what our friends have there... What if we need to send more icebreakers with radars there?

Definitely plus

[veins]

You can’t give it back. It’s a fact. But do our leaders agree with this? What if they hand it over like rubble?

[Captain45]

A large review of everything1 was not included at once. Next: In addition, in the city of Tula there is a radar of the US missile attack warning system (MAWS) of the BMEWS system.
In general, in relation to Norway and Denmark, as well as to Canada, there is no reason to talk about “militarization”; the term “demilitarization” is much more applicable. Thus, according to the data provided by the CFE Treaty (they may differ somewhat from the data above due to various nuances of the classification of systems and the status of equipment), as of January 1, 1990, Norway had 205 tanks, 146 armored combat vehicles (AFV), 531 artillery systems with a caliber of more than 100 mm, 90 combat aircraft. As of January 1, 2010, it had 76 tanks, 208 armored fighting vehicles, 67 artillery systems, and 56 combat aircraft. As of January 1, 1990, Denmark had 419 tanks, 316 armored fighting vehicles, 553 artillery systems, and 106 combat aircraft. After 20 years, it had 147 tanks, 321 armored fighting vehicles, 42 artillery systems, and 62 aircraft. Both countries, like Canada, have made some upgrades to their tank fleet by purchasing used Leopard-2s from Germany and Holland, but their numbers are too small to carry out any serious operations. Norway and Denmark (like Canada) do not have airborne and marine units, and they have almost no means of transporting troops. The navies of all three countries are also small, in addition, they do not have the capabilities to strike coastal targets (there are no carrier-based aircraft or cruise missiles), with the exception of artillery shelling of targets directly in the coastal zone.
On the other hand, carrying out large military operations in the Arctic using armored vehicles, artillery and aviation in large quantities is hardly possible due to natural and climatic conditions. As for the actions of the Navy and special forces groups, to one degree or another, all 3 countries are capable of carrying them out. From this point of view, the overall small number of the “traditional” armed forces of Canada, Norway and Denmark and the limited presence of them in the Arctic zone do not provide grounds for completely neglecting their combat potential.
If for Canada, Norway and Denmark the state of their armed forces in general and in the Arctic in particular was considered, then a complete description of the armed forces of the USA and the Russian Federation, of course, is not possible. We can only talk about their groups deployed in the Arctic zone at the moment, as well as about what forces and means can be used to strengthen these groups.

[CC-18a]

Quote: Captain45

. As for the actions of the Navy and special forces groups, to one degree or another, all 3 countries are capable of carrying them out. From this point of view, the overall small number of “traditional” armed forces of Canada, Norway and Denmark and the limited presence of their presence in the Arctic zone do not give reason to completely neglect their combat potential

Yeah! Will they go on foot to the Arctic? or swim? 1000km

[lewerlin53rus]

The Arctic is not only a huge and delicious pie, it is an ice cream cake. Moreover, a significant part of it belongs to Russia. And any attempts by those who try to bite off a piece wider than the hari risk not only freezing their teeth, but also losing them altogether

[Stasi.]

It is necessary to intensively develop and strengthen the Northern Fleet. The presence of a powerful fleet is a guarantee of the security of the entire Russian North, and not just the Arctic. It seems that the current government has finally realized this.

[igor_ua.]

http://warfiles.ru/show-8499-situaciya-vokrug-arktiki-zapad-gotovitsya-k-samozah
vatu.html
Everything here is somehow quite sad...

[Botanologist]

Well, we will have to study various options for blockade of the Arctic in the event of squatting. Of course, you won’t be able to fight much with icebreakers, but you will have to install a couple of platforms. Drillers, of course.

[lcalex]

Quote: Botanologist

Of course, you won’t be able to fight much with icebreakers, but you will have to install a couple of platforms. Drillers, of course.

Yes, drilling rigs, but with the ability to launch ballistic missiles from underwater

[Viking]

Well, it’s not for nothing that the construction of nuclear icebreakers has been restored again!!!

[APASUS]

The United States is home to motorized infantry and airmobile brigades, five fighter squadrons, a number of coast guard ships, and in the early spring of 2012, deliveries of modernized F-22 Raptor fighters began here for Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson.

Have the Americans modernized the F-22 so much that it can now fly in the Arctic? There are few problems with this trough!!!

[ZUI]

To sow the world in the Arctic, thank God, we still have sowing equipment in Vidyaevo, Gadzhievo, Gremikha, Zapadnaya Litsa, Polyarny and Severodvinsk and Severomorsk. In addition, it seems that next year the capitalized Admiral Nakhimov will be put into operation - the second Peter the Great is essentially the same project.

[R. Alex]

But they have one piece for their collar so they don’t rub their neck, not the Arctic!

[mind1954]

Yes, it is not Russia that has the right to the Arctic, but the owners of the ruler in Russia
the fascist regime has the right to plunder and plunder our Arctic!

If this is the same thing for you, then sorry!

[Stanter]

The Jew needs the whole world, then he will probably calm down. The task is to remove the Jew so that he doesn’t yap.

[TRex]

Check out the photo, forum members... On Russian soil, a Russian boy, with a Russian bear. May it always be so.

[patriot2]

Yes, Alexey is right +
If Russia doesn't have the Arctic, Russia will disappear.
This is unacceptable, unacceptable.

[cool.ya-nikola]

You can, of course, not give a damn and forget, well, just think, well, Klinonikha stupidly blurted out something wrong. Well, the pepper is clear, a difficult childhood and all that... As they used to elegantly express themselves in Rus': “A person is sorrowful in mind,” but we have always They treated holy fools condescendingly, and in some cases even sympathetically. But not everything is so simple... And remember her (i.e. Clintonikhin) predecessor of the former US Secretary of State, Madame Madeleine Albright (nee Maria Yana Korbelova). So she directly stated (I quote verbatim): “There can be no talk of any world justice while such a territory as Siberia is owned by one country. If only it were another country, then it’s a different matter!...” That's it! I hope about what other country I'm talking about something I don't need to explain to anyone? After all, one cannot deny the fact that the Lord was very unfair in depriving the most deprived, most peace-loving, and most democratic country on Earth - the USA. Think about it, gentlemen, less than 2% of the planet's population consumes more than 40% of the planet's resources! As one cartoon character used to say: “It won’t be enough!”...
So, taking into account the above, let us always remember the words of Emperor Alexander 3rd: “RUSSIA has only two allies - the ARMY and the NAVY!”