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The long-awaited C-350 "Knight" will go to the troops in the 2019 year

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It became known that the military personnel of the Russian Armed Forces in 2019 will receive a new anti-aircraft missile system "Vityaz". We are talking about the long-awaited C-350 air defense missile system, which, according to the initial plans, was supposed to “get into operation” in 2015-2016. However, these plans have undergone a noticeable adjustment for a number of reasons.


The long-awaited C-350 "Knight" will go to the troops in the 2019 year


Initial work on the creation of this air defense system was opened in 2007 year.

The main purpose of the C-350 Vityaz is the replacement of such anti-aircraft missile systems as the C-300PS and Buk-M1-2 in the troops.

In terms of its combat capabilities, the Vityaz is significantly superior to these anti-aircraft missile systems, including in terms of the functionality of the radar station.

Missiles for the Vityaz C-350 complex have been tested since 2015.

The Vityaz ammunition includes 12 missiles with a seeker (homing head). In this rocket can be of two types: 9M96E2 and 9М100.

In total, it is planned to put into service the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation near 10 ZRK C-350 "Vityaz" to 2020 year.

About exactly what parts will be the first to receive the described anti-aircraft missile system, at the moment is not reported. At the same time, it is noted that in 2019, two regimental sets of the C-400 “Triumph” air defense system will be received by the Russian air defense forces.
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  1. 41 REGION
    41 REGION 30 December 2018 06: 31
    +31
    Another New Year's gift good
    1. 210ox
      210ox 30 December 2018 06: 56
      -11
      Is this what used to be "Morpheus"?
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 30 December 2018 07: 36
        +7
        "Morpheus" has nothing to do with it ...
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 December 2018 08: 27
        +16
        Quote: 210ox
        Is this what used to be "Morpheus"?

        No, Morpheus was supposed to be an air defense system of the near zone. And Vityaz is an air defense system of the middle zone.
        1. hrych
          hrych 30 December 2018 10: 51
          +16
          Quote: NEXUS
          .A Knight is a mid-range air defense system.

          9M100 - a missile with a range of 500 m to 15 km and a lesion height of 8 km, and a 9M96E2 missile with a range of 1 km to 120 km and a lesion height of 30 km. And if you take the classification by range:
          up to 10 km. - short-range air defense systems, up to 30 km - short-range air defense systems, up to 100 km - medium-range air defense systems. More than 100 km - long-range air defense systems. Those. we have the overlap of the entire spectrum, a very versatile complex, and 120 km of the 9M96E2 missile still gives more range.
          1. Nikolaevich I
            Nikolaevich I 30 December 2018 11: 09
            +3
            Quote: hrych
            Those. we have the overlap of the entire spectrum, a very versatile complex, and the 120 km of the 9М96Е2 rocket nevertheless gives a great range

            Well .... not for nothing that 9M96E (n.d.-40 km; d.v.-20 km) did ... Someone will ask to sell him an air defense system, but we have confidence in him, "not very much." .. or some kind of "international restrictions" ... so get the cut version! There will be tady medium range ...
      3. venik
        venik 30 December 2018 10: 44
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        Is this what used to be "Morpheus"?

        ========
        This is the one that used to be "VITYAZ" !!!!
        Do not confuse "sinful with righteous" and "God's gift" - with scrambled eggs !!!
    2. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 30 December 2018 06: 56
      +15
      I agree, it's nice to read such news! Happy New Year!
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 08: 18
      +6
      If you put such a gift on the border with Lebanon together with a couple of TORs, and have a good closed digital communication channel with Khmeimim, then kapets to Israeli Suf in the sky of Lebanon with rocket attacks on the territory of Syria - they will begin to bring down where they catch the sight.
      Possible replacement for a couple of BUK 1-2 - the result will be the same.
      Well, yes, the range finder must also be installed, otherwise they will be blamed throughout Israel - here Dodik will be brutalized !!! ;-))
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 30 December 2018 09: 58
        -1
        The Israelis again vilely hide behind civilian traffic, the curvature of the earth, the terrain and Santa Claus. Despite the fact that 118 out of 116 missiles launched by them from Syria and Lebanon will be shot down, two unbroken Christ-selling bombs produced by the decaying P-ndostan will hit only four Syrian targets out of 20 planned, which indicates the superiority of Assad's London ophthalmology over the Boston management of Natanyaga.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 30 December 2018 10: 39
          +1
          Something new: but tell me, what kind of missile (bomb!) That I don’t know, manages to hit two targets at one launch?
        2. Dart
          Dart 30 December 2018 10: 43
          +4
          C'mon, without fussing, as soon as they throw up a backlight post on the Lebanese mountains, you will hide behind a fig leaf.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 30 December 2018 13: 10
            +2
            Why are you omitting your Israeli friends?
            They can be offended, take away the grant ...
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 30 December 2018 20: 05
          +8
          The superiority of the ophthalmologist over Bibi is clearly visible on the map of hostilities. You lost the war - humble yourself. Well, Syria will survive small throws of poop from around the corner. Not until you. request
          By the way, you really had a chance to get a peaceful northern border. There was a chance to normalize relations with Syria. But you leaked it to the toilet. And now the Persians will settle tightly next to your borders. You can of course tell how your very planes heroically defeated the strategic barn and the people washed by your propaganda will believe this. But you cannot stop this wave, and your weakness is becoming more evident. And if you did not bend your fingers and did not zeal in propaganda, then the damage would not be so great. Well, when Hamas hits Israel with its hundreds of rockets and the superfood iron dome cannot resist this, then stories about its power and toughness begin to be perceived as a cool joke.
          Be modest - and it will become easier for you to live. wink
          1. Leonid Anatolevich
            Leonid Anatolevich 31 December 2018 01: 41
            -9
            Who cares? Syria, Bibi, poop ... The war has not yet begun, it would be better if she bypassed because Assad would not succeed in serving the popcorn after the story with sarin.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 31 December 2018 14: 22
              +4
              You too. Considering that Israel did not even merge the 2006 war, but to the militia, I wouldn’t be in a hurry to throw caps on your place. request
              Well, about sarin, this is a hairpin at the kindergarten level. Any sane person understands that Assad had no reasons, no opportunities, no reason to use any CW. Yes, everything is well known. And how the Libyan CW got to the "moderate opposition" and how from Turkey another CW got to the Ahrars and other subsidiary groups of the "Muslim Brotherhood". There is an interview with a member of the Turkish parliament from the Kurdish party on this topic. There are specific facts of supplies. There are recorded facts of its use in a showdown between pro-Turkish-Qatari militants and igiloids on both sides. Tch everything is clear to everyone for a long time. Well, of course, except for those who are used to living in the info dome. wink
      2. Datskiy
        Datskiy 30 December 2018 10: 03
        -20
        Quote: hydrox
        If you put such a gift on the border with Lebanon together with a couple of TORs, and have a good closed digital communication channel with Khmeimim, then kapets to Israeli Suf in the sky of Lebanon with rocket attacks on the territory of Syria - they will begin to bring down where they catch the sight.
        Possible replacement for a couple of BUK 1-2 - the result will be the same.
        Well, yes, the range finder must also be installed, otherwise they will be blamed throughout Israel - here Dodik will be brutalized !!! ;-))

        So what's up?
        Find more thinkers.
        Sell ​​all your property, give up pensions and salaries.
        And send all the money for the rockets.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 30 December 2018 10: 43
          +5
          The doctor will do you a-ta-ta in the seat - badly spit out pills all around, scattering, nurses swearing ...
        2. Mikhail Zubkov
          Mikhail Zubkov 31 December 2018 11: 15
          +1
          These missiles will also have a "Greenlandic" deployment option, as well as a "Bornholm" version, to cover gas pipelines from the Danish princes. The ungrateful Bornholm SS slaves will still be held accountable for the dirty tricks and the lying bazaar. And the Danish straits these missiles in the "surface-to-surface" version will also cover. Well they are universal, launchers ... And they can easily get on ships.
      3. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 30 December 2018 11: 17
        +6
        According to "rumors", the S-300 PM / PM2 was delivered to Syria ... and there a launcher about 4 48N6e ... And instead of a TPK with 1 "48N6E", you can mount a TPK with 4 "9M96E ..." Total-16 missiles 9M96E ... Not sickly, it seems like ...
    4. svp67
      svp67 30 December 2018 15: 41
      +3
      Quote: 41 REGION
      Another New Year's gift

      Our response to "lightning-fast massive strike". Still, a launcher with 12 missiles is better than a launcher with 3 or 4 missiles.
  2. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 30 December 2018 06: 36
    +4

    In total, it is planned to put into service the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation near the 10 S-350 Vityaz air defense system before the 2020 year.

    Is it not enough for a country like Russia? I would like 25 sets)) I find this figure more pleasant in the light of the international situation and it is realistic) I guess repeat
    1. Bull Terrier
      Bull Terrier 30 December 2018 06: 46
      +15
      not enough for what? they are going to replace means the old bring out the new start. fighting efficiency does not fall. and to transplant several compounds at once, this means at least for the time of their development to lose them as combat ones.
      1. SSR
        SSR 30 December 2018 07: 13
        0
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        not enough for what? they are going to replace means the old bring out the new start.

        This is not a rebuke, but in addition to the question - not enough for what?
        The article is crude.
        It is of course clear what is clear.
        Get a new complex. Hooray!
        It became known that the military personnel of the Russian Armed Forces in 2019 will receive a new anti-aircraft missile system “Vityaz”.

        Hooray!
        The main purpose of the C-350 Vityaz is the replacement of such anti-aircraft missile systems as the C-300PS and Buk-M1-2 in the troops.

        Wow! Impressive, and even immediately 12 missiles on one installation and the modern radar.

        The Vityaz ammunition includes 12 missiles with a seeker (homing head). In this rocket can be of two types: 9M96E2 and 9М100.

        Hooray! Hooray! Great news, but! The author who nadybil news, could not supplement it? Type.
        9M96E with a mass of 333 kg has lesion boundaries in the range of 40 km, in height of 20 km.
        and about 9M100 generally write as about a ship version of the type "Calm".
        And where, then, is the "replacement" of the S-300PS type with such missiles?
        In fact, the complex has an operating range from 500 m to 40 km and in height from 5 m to 20 km.
        Now you have to rummage through the internet.

        Firing range 9M100 - from 500 m to 15 km. It hits targets at an altitude of 5 m to 8 km.

        Comrades, who are a little in the subject, tell us about the S-350 "Vityaz", the Internet is contradictory, a lot of rubbish from "analysts / bloggers".
        1. Tiksi-3
          Tiksi-3 30 December 2018 08: 58
          +2
          Quote: SSR
          Comrades, who are a little in the subject, tell us about the S-350 "Vityaz

          analogue of the hero - Polement-Redoubt (its naval version) there is a destruction range of 150 km. It's just that their long-range missile has not yet been brought to mind, I think with the adoption of Vityaz for service, they will finish the marine version
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 30 December 2018 08: 30
        +5
        Quote: Bull Terrier
        they are going to replace means the old bring out the new start.

        Nobody will display the old. BEECHES are modernized and continue to be effective and relevant. Just over time, the purchase of beeches severely cut in favor of the Vityaze, followed by the rejection of the Bukov. But it will not be soon.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 30 December 2018 09: 16
          +9
          Quote: NEXUS
          Nobody will display the old. BEECHES are modernized and continue to be effective and relevant. Just over time, the purchase of beeches severely cut in favor of the Vityaze, followed by the rejection of the Bukov. But it will not be soon.

          Andrew, hello!
          Whether someone likes it or not, most of the Buk air defense systems are Soviet-built complexes, and for the most part they have exhausted their resource. For example, the S-300PS air defense systems basically exhausted their resource in 2015. I am sure that no one needs to explain what this means. And we had no more than a dozen of the same "Bukovo" brigades in the whole country. In addition, in recent years, the S-300V and Buk brigades were transferred from the air defense forces of the SV to the Aerospace Forces, where the air defense system was formed.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 30 December 2018 10: 24
            +7
            Quote: Bongo
            Andrew, hello!

            Hi, Serge! hi Happy you, friend! drinks
            Quote: Bongo
            Whether someone likes it or not, most of the Buk air defense systems are Soviet-built complexes, and for the most part they have exhausted their resource.

            Well BUK-M3 will still be relevant for 5-10 years. At the same time, there is an export potential in the form of a Viking. The missiles under him are being modernized, which adds to his effectiveness. But of course you're right, BUKI and S-300PS have long been requiring a quality replacement.
            I have said many times that with the appearance of Vityaz, the situation will change dramatically in this matter. Well, you know our air defense systems, more and more are being purchased by other countries in the form of vaccinations against mattress democracy.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 30 December 2018 11: 16
              +8
              Quote: NEXUS
              Hi, Seryoga! hi Happy you, friend!

              Thank you, Andrew! And you! drinks
              Quote: NEXUS
              Well, BUK-M3 will still be relevant 5-10 years

              It will be relevant even 30 years, while in the world no one has done better.
              Quote: NEXUS
              I have said many times that with the appearance of Vityaz, the situation will change greatly in this matter.

              Too long to bring it to mind.
              Quote: NEXUS
              Well, our own air defense system itself you know, more and more are purchased by other countries in the form of vaccination against mattress democracy.

              If we compare with the Soviet times, we supply very little for export. However, our air defense system is now God forbid 1 / 10 from the Soviet.
            2. iConst
              iConst 30 December 2018 11: 51
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              in the form of vaccination against mattress democracy

              The main thing is that this vaccine be effective and cure permanently. No relapse.
          2. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 12: 14
            0
            Everything depends on the range of the missiles, even the S-400 will not be able to bring down the carrier with the AGM-158 JASSM up to 1000 km range. At the S-400, a missile with a range of 380-400 km, the S-350 as well as the Buk-M3 will work on the missiles themselves, those tomahawks and AGM-158 JASSM
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 30 December 2018 13: 06
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          BEECHs are being modernized and continue to be effective and relevant. Just over time, the purchase of beech will be greatly cut in favor of the Knights, with the subsequent abandonment of beeches
          .
          Bukov CSO has modernization potential. The Carapaces and Thors have a "soul machine", the Buks do not. Shooting outright again. In the end, they will settle on the "headless version". The unmanned version, Bart Andryukha, is more terrible than the Canterville Ghost. To refuse such a perspective is a crime
          Beeches will replace where the Knight should be. Complete rejection - complete nonsense
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 30 December 2018 14: 19
            +1
            So actually Buki is an army system and Vityazi as far as I understand the object ... What kind of replacement are we talking about?
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 30 December 2018 16: 07
            0
            Quote: Tusv
            Shooting right away again.

            Shooting on the go for mid-range air defense systems is not particularly relevant. Such shooting is a matter of life for a TOR or Shell type air defense system. No warlord will drive the BUKs to cover the column on the march. Therefore, the air defense systems of the medium and large zones are objective.
            At the same time, the Torah and the Carapace, by definition, should be as mobile as possible, so that, without unnecessary fuss, it would be possible to transfer such air defense systems to dangerous directions, in order to either block the direction or fill a gap in the defense.
        3. Bull Terrier
          Bull Terrier 30 December 2018 13: 23
          0
          so in terms of conversation and no) this is a superficial scheme for understanding the process)
      3. Mikhail Zubkov
        Mikhail Zubkov 31 December 2018 11: 24
        0
        We primarily need them in the Baltic, in the Coastal Forces, to prevent the Danish aggressor. There, it’s time to deploy new air defense formations to cover our marine economic zone and gas pipelines from the islands of the Leningrad Region and from Kaliningrad.
    2. StudentVK
      StudentVK 30 December 2018 07: 18
      +2
      Well, maybe) I still hope that the quantity has been lied to us in a good way)))) ETOGES it turns out the unification went in full swing. One of the c350 missiles is the c400 missile. Holiday greetings)
      1. SSR
        SSR 30 December 2018 07: 34
        -2
        Quote: StudentVK
        ETOGES it turns out the unification went in full swing. One of the c350 missiles is the c400 missile.

        So it’s not quite so if you glance at the Internet. )))
        Inet fighters have not yet wandered into battle already rushed.)))
        Quote: StudentVK
        Holiday greetings)

        Happy New Year!
        All the best!
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 08: 25
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Is it not enough for a country like Russia?

      For trial operation and refinement is enough.
      This is a transitional model, apparently, they are intended to replace BUKs (in terms of range and rank of the enemy). Again, how to show themselves when working in a network-centric model.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 December 2018 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Is it not enough for a country like Russia?

      One Vityaz complex, roughly, replaces the 2-3 of the C-300 complex, or BEECH. In other words, 10 Knights, again roughly counting, these are 20 BUK or C-300. For military trials, it is quite enough. Based on the results of these tests, they will decide how much they will purchase these complexes.
      1. Bongo
        Bongo 30 December 2018 09: 22
        +15
        Quote: NEXUS
        One complex Vityaz, roughly, replaces the 2-3 of the C-300 complex, or the BEECH.

        You are mistaken for many reasons ... No. Such theses have become very fashionable among our "military leaders". The same Bondarev, grunted nonsense, saying that one ZRDN S-400 air defense missile system, due to the longer launch range, could replace the S-300P regiment. The firing range does not decide everything. Several divisions have great combat stability and are able to cover each other, one should also not forget that the ammunition load is also not infinite.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 December 2018 10: 27
          +1
          Quote: Bongo
          You are mistaken for many reasons ...

          Quote: Bongo
          Firing range does not solve everything.

          And I'm not talking about distance, friend. The question is BC which can be used before reloading. And here at Vityaz, I'm sorry, BC is stupidly more. At the expense of the range we will see, for me personally, while the Knights go serially to the troops, the big question is about its arsenal.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 30 December 2018 11: 10
            +7
            Quote: NEXUS
            And I'm not talking about distance, friend. The question is BC which can be used before reloading. And here at Vityaz, I'm sorry, BC is stupidly more. At the expense of the range we will see, for me personally, while the Knights go serially to the troops, the big question is about its arsenal.

            More ammunition is certainly great. But let's compare the number of ready-to-use missiles at the Vityaz and the number of target channels with the Buk air defense systems of extreme versions? The S-350 is more suitable for carrying a long-term OBD and, in fact, is a modern analogue of the S-300PS.
            1. sivuch
              sivuch 30 December 2018 11: 59
              +2
              So there is another nuance. The S-350 has only one MFRS, both for detection and guidance. So it is, of course, cheaper, but not the fact that it is better. David Burton, by the way, also originally planned to put 2 radars instead of one multifunctional.
              1. Alexander Galaktionov
                Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 12: 51
                +1
                Quote: sivuch
                So there is another nuance. The S-350 has only one MFRS, both for detection and guidance. So it is, of course, cheaper, but not the fact that it is better. David Burton, by the way, also originally planned to put 2 radars instead of one multifunctional.

                I agree, there should be 2 radars for high-altitude and low-flying targets!
          2. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 30 December 2018 13: 08
            +1
            Andrei, if you look at the range in the light of the possibility of replacing a larger number, it turns out we start shooting for 300 km + over, until we do not shoot down, we recharge, shoot again, recharge well and to the minimum of the affected area ... In the second and third phase, mona missiles with less fuel and more warheads ... But there will be no time to reload the Shell, so more ammunition and work in pairs, or even three ... So you are right about the tactics hi
          3. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 30 December 2018 13: 08
            +1
            Andrei, if you look at the range in the light of the possibility of replacing a larger number, it turns out we start shooting for 300 km + over, until we do not shoot down, we recharge, shoot again, recharge well and to the minimum of the affected area ... In the second and third phase, mona missiles with less fuel and more warheads ... But there will be no time to reload the Shell, so more ammunition and work in pairs, or even three ... So you are right about the tactics hi
    5. venik
      venik 30 December 2018 10: 48
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Is it not enough for a country like Russia?

      ========
      As they say in Odessa: "They walk along Deribasovskaya gradually!"
      There will be 25 and 50 and more !!! (How much do you need!!!) good
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 30 December 2018 11: 15
      +2
      Good morning, Vyacheslav! hi The complex has not one PU, but four.
      1. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 30 December 2018 12: 49
        +3
        The 350th is not self-sufficient, as, in fact, any other air defense complex.
        Again, in combination with the DB and MD complexes, and even in the group, the number of target channels increases so much that you can not only fight off the first strike. Especially, if behind the back there is also a S-400 regiment, or even an S-500 and a fighter regiment in the rear.
        The layered air defense system is our everything!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 December 2018 16: 00
          +1
          Quote: Vlad.by
          350 is not self-sufficient, as, in fact, any other air defense system

          No, from the word at all. All missile defense and air defense complexes have dead zones. Therefore, the same C-400 ALWAYS paired with the Shell.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 30 December 2018 19: 37
            +2
            Happy Andrey! You are right, moreover, on each PU one of the four kicks is given under 4 small missiles. To be able to work on ballistic missiles. Therefore, on each S-400 launcher there are not 4, but 7 anti-aircraft missiles.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 30 December 2018 20: 00
              +2
              Quote: Sith Lord
              Happy Andrey!

              Thank you, Sergey! hi And you with the upcoming holiday! Health, happiness, prosperity to you and your loved ones! drinks
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 31 December 2018 14: 03
                +3
                And it looks like this



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          2. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 3 January 2019 00: 20
            0
            Andrei, I didn’t understand. Do you disagree with the fact that the 350 is NOT self-sufficient or that like any other ??
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 3 January 2019 16: 32
              0
              Quote: Vlad.by
              Andrei, I didn’t understand. Do you disagree with the fact that the 350 is NOT self-sufficient or that like any other ??

              C-350 is NOT self-sufficient, like any other air defense system, since it also has dead zones.
              1. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 3 January 2019 22: 40
                +1
                Did you specifically quote me or read me inattentively? I wrote the same thing verbatim. And with your phrase I agree to all 100.
                Therefore, I did not understand your remark.
  3. ANCIENT
    ANCIENT 30 December 2018 06: 37
    +8
    As they say, they waited, but how many mines were broken, arguing whether he would join the troops or not! good Along the way, I congratulate everyone on the upcoming New Year! !!! drinks drinks good
    1. 2329 Carpenter
      2329 Carpenter 30 December 2018 06: 53
      +7
      Ancient! Holiday greetings! Do not forget to remind the professor that he doesn’t eat pork for the New Year! Year of the Pig; Why offend useful animals?
      laughing drinks
      1. ANCIENT
        ANCIENT 30 December 2018 07: 09
        +6
        Carpenter 2329 — Which Professor to Remind? ?? fool I live in Rostov-on-Don, he is in Israel (I don’t know the exact address) !!! am
        1. 2329 Carpenter
          2329 Carpenter 30 December 2018 09: 45
          +1
          Okay, let’s remind myself. smile
          And then I didn’t think it over well at first.
          And a joke would have turned out a setup. Insulting religious feelings.
          It happens. Forgot.
          drinks
  4. Fungus
    Fungus 30 December 2018 06: 47
    0
    That's good good
  5. Killemall
    Killemall 30 December 2018 06: 57
    -2
    unclear. Why not change to 400 right away?
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 30 December 2018 07: 09
      +1
      They are of medium range, like the Beech M, that is, to 100 km probably hit, and C 400 to 400 km.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 08: 30
      +5
      Quote: KilleMall
      unclear. Why not change to 400 right away?

      Different classes, different capabilities, different prices of missiles and a complex - everything is DIFFERENT!
    3. Bongo
      Bongo 30 December 2018 09: 26
      +4
      Quote: KilleMall
      unclear. Why not change to 400 right away?

      ZRS C-400 is very expensive and cumbersome. And for the solution of most tasks is redundant.
      Quote: Pessimist22
      They are of medium range, like the Beech M, that is, to 100 km probably hit, and C 400 to 400 km.

      A widespread misconception. As part of the C-400 ZRS ammunition, the real-time databases have missiles with a maximum launch range of up to 250 km.
      1. Hypersound
        Hypersound 30 December 2018 09: 36
        -2
        Already have a rocket on 380 (400) km
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 30 December 2018 09: 37
          +3
          Quote: Hypersound
          Already have a rocket on 380 (400) km

          In the army?
          1. Alexander Galaktionov
            Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 13: 35
            0
            Quote: Bongo
            Quote: Hypersound
            Already have a rocket on 380 (400) km

            In the army?

            Sergei in the army, you know, no one will tell you, this is how you understand how everyone spoke about the Chelyabinsk meteorite, but who in the subject knows that there is no meteorite! hi
          2. Hypersound
            Hypersound 31 December 2018 10: 47
            0
            Yes, mass production began.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 1 January 2019 05: 03
              +1
              Quote: Hypersound
              Yes, mass production began.

              And in the front-line divisions bearing the database are they?
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2018 10: 48
          -5
          Yes, there are, until the 25 of the year, such missiles will be purchased for all 1000 units.
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 30 December 2018 11: 12
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            Yes, there are, until the 25 of the year, such missiles will be purchased for all 1000 units.

            Did 2025 have a year already? Maybe transfer the ZRP where the new SD arrived? In general, if you don’t know something for sure, it’s better to keep silent ...
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 30 December 2018 15: 39
              -1
              Of course they are all 12 pieces.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 30 December 2018 15: 41
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                Of course they are all 12 pieces.

                But isn't this the party that was meant for the State tests?
  6. O. Bender
    O. Bender 30 December 2018 07: 06
    +3
    Quote: KilleMall
    unclear. Why not change to 400 right away?

    Different tasks and, accordingly, opportunities hi
  7. stalki
    stalki 30 December 2018 07: 25
    +1
    Good news, little by little glanders, but we are becoming stronger. The main thing is not to stop good
  8. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 30 December 2018 07: 39
    +13
    Glory to those Lord! fellow
    This is really a gift. It means that Polyment-Redut was finished for Gorshkov.
    1. Orkraider
      Orkraider 30 December 2018 10: 56
      +2
      Thanks God! So 20350 really accepted, with the current complex, and not just for show. Very good news!

      Andrey, with the upcoming !!! drinks
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 31 December 2018 01: 47
        +2
        Happy New Year!
        drinks
    2. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 12: 04
      0
      http://forums.airbase.ru/2018/09/t39646_347--fregaty-proekta-22350.html
  9. Adimius38
    Adimius38 30 December 2018 07: 45
    +4
    very necessary system. Really very glad that she finally began to act. This two-head system is more effective than the S-300. 12 missiles on one launcher is not a joke but the ability to repel a massive air strike. 36 missiles on three launchers instead of 12 missiles on three launchers of S-300 is better than you can imagine
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 08: 35
      -2
      Oh wait!
      Go, we will soon begin to use launchers from hailstones to protect the S-400 from axes - then we will be guaranteed neither a flock, nor a massive raid of Axes! ;-))
      Yes, they don’t have anything so shocking, except for the ancient Axes, they only throw ponty!
      1. Adimius38
        Adimius38 30 December 2018 09: 06
        +3
        firstly, it is not a launcher from the city, secondly, the S-350 WORKS in conjunction with modern radar systems like any modern air defense system
      2. Adimius38
        Adimius38 30 December 2018 09: 14
        +5
        As for the ancient axes, they are not so ancient, listen less to Kiselyov TV. And no one canceled a quick global blow. Recent axes are very modern rockets. But counteracting a massive air strike just the same and need launchers with a large number of missiles capable of simultaneously hit a lot of targets. If you take the S-300, then such launchers need three times more than the S-350 to hit an equal number of targets in the air, that is, it is more expensive and lower in efficiency. Therefore, the efficiency increases significantly if you use a bunch of short and medium range S-350 and long-range S-400. Also for cover in the near zone is Shell with missile-cannon weapons.
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 30 December 2018 10: 24
          -6
          Well done, Wikipedia to the rescue!
          Just don't frighten people with your liberal "quick global strike".
          Do not trust your friends-globalists, if they again undertake to convince everyone that "NATO, all as one, boldly we will go into battle ..." - NO ONE more will dare to attack Russia with UNDERSTAND: The life of Europe is measured in 15-20 minutes from the moment when ANY NATO member presses the "Start" button, which launches any missile from the "fast global", the rest of the NATO members are already talking about it!
          So after half an hour, the "Dead Hand" will also rise, which today is more alive than all living things, has undergone modernization and expanded the limits and powers of accessibility ...
          1. kjhg
            kjhg 30 December 2018 11: 06
            0
            You once again showed us how propaganda cripples people's minds.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 30 December 2018 13: 05
              -2
              Nothing, liberal girl, I’ll survive somehow, but liberoids will have to work like drivers in Paris, or to harvest strawberries in Poland, or olives in Spain - but you don’t want to! ... - but look at the world ;-))
  10. Beaten
    Beaten 30 December 2018 07: 51
    +2
    Our air defense developments are flourishing .. God forbid that the 41st does not happen again (when they ran from Messers like rabbits.)
    So gentlemen, I do not advise you to "try the bodies of Russia." soldier
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2018 10: 49
      +1
      In any case, it will not happen again - since one cannot escape from thermonuclear warheads.
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  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 December 2018 07: 59
    +5
    Have long been waiting for 350!
    in 2019, two regimental sets of S-400 Triumph air defense systems will be put into service with the Russian air defense forces.

    ... and these will not be superfluous !!! good
  12. den3080
    den3080 30 December 2018 08: 24
    +9
    I finally understood Zhirinovsky’s screams about the S-700. He just lied 2 times, as usual. wink
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 10: 26
      +4
      This did not "lie", it was "foresaw" ;-))
    2. Orkraider
      Orkraider 30 December 2018 11: 05
      +5
      )))))
      Exactly, two 350 is seven hundred laughing
    3. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 30 December 2018 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: den3080
      He just lied 2 times, as usual.

      And maybe there is something "different"? Well ... as usual? We write 5, and 7 in the mind ...?
  13. senima56
    senima56 30 December 2018 08: 30
    +6
    Excellent- 12 missiles is not 4. It's time!
  14. Hypersound
    Hypersound 30 December 2018 09: 33
    -8
    Why are they needed when there are more advanced S-300V4 and S-400?
    1. Alexander Galaktionov
      Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 13: 30
      0
      Quote: Hypersound
      Why are they needed when there are more advanced S-300V4 and S-400?
      Do you want missiles from S-400 and S-300V4 to shoot at the tomahawks, AGM-158 JASSM and GBU-39
      ?
      1. Muvka
        Muvka 30 December 2018 15: 55
        +2
        Why not? The same missiles can be put on the S-400. And in larger numbers. 400 missiles will be removed per S-16 launcher, instead of 12. What is the problem?
        1. Alexander Galaktionov
          Alexander Galaktionov 30 December 2018 15: 57
          0
          Each air defense system has its own tasks
  15. Qrank
    Qrank 30 December 2018 09: 56
    +1
    Who will tell you why it is needed if there is a Buk M3? Buk has 6 and 12 rocket launchers and a range of 70 km.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 30 December 2018 10: 33
      -6
      How many modernizations of the BUK have already been transferred? Only three capital!
      That's the same thing, he’s already an old man, and the functionality is already at the limit ...
      Shoigu is not such a scoundrel as Kudrin and his boss and will not force the equipment to work "to death at a combat post," as now the old people will no longer live up to retirement! ;-))
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2018 10: 51
      -1
      With 300 in the first place will replace - early modifications.
    3. alexmach
      alexmach 30 December 2018 14: 13
      0
      Who will tell you why it is needed

      It is built on missiles with an active seeker, which means greater firepower (more simultaneously fired targets), since there is no need to illuminate targets with radar.
      This is the main difference, and not the number of missiles at the launch.
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 30 December 2018 10: 09
    +3
    It is impossible to build an absolutely reliable "fence" from SAM alone!
    Just another element in the overall system, which is the country's defense capability!
    Developing and modernizing, consider everything! Not the same, but here we can!
    All the same, I think that the most important thing is the development of the general potential of the country, the military and civilian components!
    So sho with the upcoming and boom hope, sho all plans will be brought to completion!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2018 10: 56
      -3
      For that, out of 1000 SM Shells, in a checkerboard pattern, along the entire western border - there’s still some kind of barrier that can be built — flat terrain, all aircraft: drones, fighters, transport planes, bombers planning air bombs, tactical and cruise missiles - at a glance.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 30 December 2018 11: 14
        0
        It is possible, but why?
        Question two, price efficiency? The answer is obvious, below any reasonable limit there will be.
        About oil, other essentials, you can only dream of.
        No one has ever been able to solve anything due to the development of the military-industrial complex only.
        By the way, air defense systems like the Shell, cannot independently solve the problem of protecting anything larger than a football field! A serious adversary has enough different means of attack, which are not an obstacle for such an air defense system.
        The boom is realism, the boom is also considered a denyushku, otherwise, in the end, there will be nothing and no one to defend!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2018 15: 46
          +1
          "A serious adversary has enough different means of attack, which are not a hindrance to air defense systems of this type." I only know GBU 39 no more, that even for the current Shell will pose a problem, and you know if the new shell has a missile strike range within 70 kilometers in range and 20 kilometers in height, then it is much larger than a football field in area and at a cost one complex is about 360 million rubles - 1000 complexes in production in 5 years, the budget will manage without problems.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 30 December 2018 18: 15
            0
            If yes, if only .... not a single anti-aircraft defense is an obstacle if only air defense systems are equipped.
            A whole COMPLEX of various means is needed! And this is VERY big money!
            Again, a simple truth, there is no more reliable air defense than our tanks at all launch sites, enemy airfields. Yes, and our ships, always and everywhere!
            This is simply not an achievable goal for anyone.
            The boom of realists, while our defense, is vigorous arguments, ready for a retaliatory strike and nothing else.
            Now let's calculate the money, our capabilities and draw the right conclusions!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 30 December 2018 21: 59
              -1
              All tanks will be shot down or destroyed, on the way to these airfields - the fourth and fifth generation ATGMs, each year, in the arsenal of NATO countries, more and more. The correct conclusion is that any attack is carried out from the air, in the future, and from near-Earth outer space, so that 1000 Shells along the western border is the right decision, given the latest trend in the development of shock UAVs and Kamikaze drones, this task becomes even more urgent.
  17. Alexander X
    Alexander X 30 December 2018 10: 41
    0
    Good! That's right ...
  18. Chicha squad
    Chicha squad 30 December 2018 11: 05
    +1
    Was it commissioned by South Korea?
  19. Old26
    Old26 30 December 2018 11: 50
    +3
    Quote: SSR

    The Vityaz ammunition includes 12 missiles with a seeker (homing head). In this rocket can be of two types: 9M96E2 and 9М100.

    Hooray! Hooray! Great news, but! The author who nadybil news, could not supplement it? Type.
    9M96E with a mass of 333 kg has lesion boundaries in the range of 40 km, in height of 20 km.
    and about 9M100 generally write as about a ship version of the type "Calm".
    And where, then, is the "replacement" of the S-300PS type with such missiles?
    In fact, the complex has an operating range from 500 m to 40 km and in height from 5 m to 20 km.

    You have confused yourself. Quotes from an article about 9M96E2 missiles, and give the parameters of the 9M96E rocket as the performance characteristics. It really has both the range and height reach you specified. But the 9M96E2 has a maximum range of 120 km, an altitude reach of 30 km. IMHO is quite an adequate replacement for the S-300PS and Buku. In addition, almost certainly the entire range of 9M96 and 9M100 missiles will be used.

    Quote: 41 REGION
    Another New Year's gift

    There is no present yet. Only voice acting. Unfortunately, our dates can easily shift to the right ... Sweat when at least the first regimental set is transferred to the troops - you can talk about a gift
  20. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 December 2018 12: 12
    +1
    I have been waiting for this system for a long time.
    Yes, 12 missiles on one launcher of course solve a massive attack of the Kyrgyz Republic.
    It’s clear that this is an object-based air defense, not designed to work on the go,
    But for layered defense facilities is super.
  21. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 30 December 2018 13: 13
    0
    In total, the arming of the RF Armed Forces is planned about 10 air defense systems S-350 "Vityaz" until 2020 year.

    which parts the first to receive the described anti-aircraft missile system, currently not reported.

    It is estimated that about 10 SAM systems can be scattered. in several parts? On batteries, or what?
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 30 December 2018 14: 08
      +1
      It is supposed to scatter about 10 SAM in several parts? On batteries, or what?

      These are clearly plans for a ten-year range.
    2. DarkMatter
      DarkMatter 30 December 2018 15: 09
      0
      On December 18, 2018 in Moscow, under the leadership of the President of the Russian Federation - Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces Vladimir Putin, an expanded meeting of the Board of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was held. The Minister of Defense of Russia, Army General Sergei Shoigu, made a report at a meeting of the College.
      <...>
      At the end of the report, the head of the military department outlined priorities for 2019.
      <...>
      To supply 143 new and modernized aircraft, 2 regiment sets of the S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile system to the Aerospace Forces, naval aviation and air defense forces of the Navy, 1 anti-aircraft missile system Vityaz and 7 divisions of the Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and cannon system.
      <...>
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 30 December 2018 15: 19
        +1
        Quote: DarkMatter
        1 anti-aircraft missile system Vityaz

        Those. not regimental / divisional set, а only one SAM?
        1. DarkMatter
          DarkMatter 30 December 2018 19: 31
          0
          The complex in this case means a full-fledged combat unit. One launcher cannot do anything.
          So I think the division is at least, but I hope for a full regiment.
          The most interesting is the number of launchers in the standard kit. I hope that there will be 8 pieces, although who knows. For some reason, thoughts worry that they can reduce to (maybe a little more) the number of S-300 missiles that he will replace, thereby saving money on launchers, and the number of missiles will be the same.
          P.S. below san4es painted in detail, though the picture of the Korean complex lol but not the point.
  22. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 30 December 2018 13: 52
    0
    a good air defense system is always a topic ... given the current nature of warfare ... well, it’s clear that the systems should be for different tasks (specialization is, however, the right topic) and work together ...
  23. alexmach
    alexmach 30 December 2018 14: 06
    +1
    Well, thank God! These rockets were finally rattling. But he is unified in terms of missiles with Polement-Redoubt, which in 19 should also be tested and adopted. So at least the issue has been resolved with missiles. And there is a considerable chance that the ship’s air defense system was brought to the planned characteristics. And this in turn means that there are no technical obstacles to the construction of 22350.
  24. san4es
    san4es 30 December 2018 16: 00
    +2
    The Vityaz ammunition includes 12 missiles with a seeker (homing head). In this rocket can be of two types: 9M96E2 and 9М100.

    Modifications:
    9M96 (9M96D, 9M96M) - anti-aircraft missiles for air defense and navy;
    9M96E - export version of 9M96 missiles;
    9M96E2 - export version of 9M96 missiles with increased range;
    The performance characteristics of anti-aircraft guided missiles of the S-350 "Vityaz" anti-aircraft missile system recourse

    The complex consists of three modules:
    - command post 50K6 S-350 "Vityaz" air defense system - 1 pc .;
    - multifunctional radar 50N6 ZRS S-350 "Vityaz" - up to 2 pcs;
    - self-propelled launcher 50P6 ZRS S-350 "Vityaz" - up to 8 pcs.
    All modules of the S-350 Vityaz anti-aircraft missile system are installed on a special wheeled chassis BAZ-69092-012.
    Performance characteristics:
    Engine - diesel engine power 470 hp
    Curb weight - 15800 kg
    Payload weight - 14200 kg
    Installation weight is full - up to 30000 kg
    The maximum rise is 30 degrees
    Depth of ford - 1.7 m
    https://vpk.name/library/f/vityaz.html ............ hi


    1. Anton Yu
      Anton Yu 31 December 2018 13: 08
      +1
      Are you sure that you have the S-350 Vityaz complex in the picture, and not the SAMP-T complex?
      1. san4es
        san4es 31 December 2018 13: 57
        0
        hi... Wrong - sorry
        1. Anton Yu
          Anton Yu 31 December 2018 14: 35
          -1
          Yes, everything is fine. All with the upcoming holiday!
  25. Old26
    Old26 30 December 2018 17: 38
    +1
    Quote: Lara Croft
    Those. not a regiment / division kit, but only one SAM?

    SAM most often this is the division. Regarding the same S-300, then the air defense system (anti-aircraft missile system) - or regiment had the index 75R6 (S-300PS), but the anti-aircraft missile system (division) - 5Zh15S
  26. egsp
    egsp 30 December 2018 23: 06
    +2
    A Knight will NEVER replace Beech. For one simple reason: It was not created for this. The beech is the air defense system of the ground forces, and the Buk-M3 air defense system is the best of its kind. The hero is replacing the S300 Submarine, PMU of the air defense forces of the country (facility). If the author of the article does not know this, he is complete PROFAN. One gets the feeling that he thoughtlessly copied this article, and the old one.
  27. Е2 - Е4
    Е2 - Е4 31 December 2018 00: 30
    -2
    Great gift for the New Year !!! Keep it up, build muscle
  28. race
    race 31 December 2018 19: 00
    0
    The Vityaz ammunition includes 12 missiles with GOS

    It turns out that the complex includes only one PU?
  29. race
    race 31 December 2018 19: 03
    -1
    The main purpose of the S-350 Vityaz is to replace in the troops such anti-aircraft missile systems as the S-300PS

    S-300PS is now changing to S-400. What is the meaning of the new complex? Or is he superior to the S-400 in something?
  30. Carib
    Carib 31 December 2018 22: 22
    0
    Yes, a very welcome gift. Thank.